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==What is Wikiversity beta?==

This project is a global platform aiming at coordinating all Wikiversity projects. This '''[[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/En|multilingual coordination]]''' should deal with Wikiversity's [[Wikiversity:Mission|mission]] and general guidelines of the project's scope (for example, about original research).

Wikiversity beta is also an incubator for Wikiversities in various languages that are not separate projects. So far, [[:en:Wikiversity:Main Page|English]], [[:de:Hauptseite|German]], [[:es:Portada|Spanish]] and [[:fr:Accueil|French]] are [[Wikiversity:separate projects|separate projects]]. See the [[Wikiversity:Reports/En|News from separate projects]].

'''If you want to set up a new Wikiversity''', you must have ten active participants who are willing to work on that language project. When you have this number you can [[m:Requests for new languages#Wikiversity|request]] (at meta) for a new language domain to be set up. In the meantime, please add your project's main page to [[Template:Main page]].

''You may also look at the [[Help:FAQ/En|Frequently Asked Questions]].''

==Guidelines==
''Please help develop (and translate) our international guidelines that will apply to all language projects.''
*[[Wikiversity:Scope of research/En|Scope of research]] - should Wikiversity allow all types of [[Wikiversity:Research/En|research]], including [[Wikiversity:Original research/En|original research]]?
*[[Wikiversity_talk:Research guidelines/En|Research guidelines]] - what rules are needed to assure that only high quality, scholarly research activities take place?

==In progress==
*Develop our multilingual portal (http://www.wikiversity.org) at [[m:Talk:Www.wikiversity.org template|Meta]]
*Join in our current [[m:Wikiversity/logo|logo vote]] and [[:en:Wikiversity:Motto_contest|motto contest]]

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Hello,

I'm sebmol on [[:en:User:Sebmol|English]] Wikiversity, [[wikipedia:User:Sebmol|English]] and [[wikipedia:de:Benutzer:Sebmol|German]] Wikipedia, and a few other [[wikipedia:Wikimedia|Wikimedia]] projects. I'm a [[m:Bureaucrat|Bureaucrat]] and [[m:Administrator|Administrator]] on this wiki.

{{User:Sebmol/Notice}}

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      <comment>{{Copyright by Wikimedia}}</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">Gradhat image is comming from [[commons:Image:Sciences_humaines.svg|Image:Sciences_humaines.svg]]. Rest is edited with gimp. --[[Kullanıcı:Dbl2010|&lt;font color=&quot;#009900&quot;&gt;Özgür&lt;/font&gt;]] 17:22, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

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      <comment>some thoughts on beta.wikiversity.org</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Image:Personal computer.bristol.jpg|thumb|right|Your seat at Wikiversity]]
[http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User:JWSchmidt My user page] at the English language Wikiversity.

==14 August 2006 instructions from the Board==
([http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2006-August/009074.html source], by Board member [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Anthere Anthere])&lt;BR&gt;&quot;..... guidelines should be developped, *in particular* with regards to collaborative research. We would hope that these guidelines are as much as possible developped on the beta site (in particular collaborative research), so that all languages share a common goal and a few common non negociable rules.&quot;

I'm glad that the Board decided that there should be a central multi-lingual hub for Wikiversity. As an institution, the Wikimedia Foundation has learned the importance of not allowing English speaking participants to exclude others from community decision making. 

===What does Wikiversity Beta offer over Meta?===
All Wikimedia Foundation activities could be carried out on a single wiki website. However, Mediawiki organizes a wiki around a project namespace. If there is a distinct project then there should be a distinct wiki website for that project. Each Wikimedia sister project must actually be a family of wiki websites. Each project like Wikiversity has multiple wiki websites for different languages. Wikiversity could have an [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Embassy#Wikibooks Embassy] at the Wikimedia meta-wiki, but a better alternative is to have [[Main Page|beta.wikiversity.org]].

The only potential problem with beta.wikiversity.org is that its name seems to imply that it is a website for use only during the six month Wikiversity beta period. The Wikiversity project should always have a central hub for dealing with project-wide issues such as the development of global Wikiversity policy and the development of new Wikiversity websites for specific languages.

===Why do we need a Wikiversity Beta instead of using the Wikimedia Incubator===
The incubator at the Wikimedia meta-wiki should be for new projects, not new language-specific branches of Wikiversity. Yes, all meta-level project development work could be done at the Wikimedia meta-wiki, but it is better to have development of new language-specific branches of Wikiversity at beta.wikiversity.org.  It is not a matter of &quot;need&quot;; rather it is a matter of planning what is best for the future.

Some people seem to fear that due to the proliferation of websites, Wikimedia projects are in danger of competing with each other. [[w:Jimmy Wales|Jimmy Wales]] recently [http://wikimania2006.wikimedia.org/wiki/Opening_Plenary_%28transcript%29#Software_changes_for_stable_versions_.2852:30.29 said], &quot;I think we should run small experiments, tests, see what works, what doesn't, and be prepared to be flexible and change, and not be too locked into stone about how things should work.&quot; I think the spirit of that comment can be applied to the family of Wikimedia websites. Institutions die by sticking with systems that seem to work good enough. Institutions survive by finding ways to try new ideas and develop new and improved systems for accomplishing tasks. In the &quot;market place for ideas&quot;, I think there is more danger from avoiding competition than from making opportunities for competition.

===What about non-English pages of Wikiversity projects that are currently on Wikibooks?===
I'm in favor of launching new language-specific Wikiversities as quickly as possible. If there are 10 people ready to start a Wikiversity in a particular language, then it is a &quot;go&quot;. Smaller communities should start using beta.wikiversity.org as an incubator.

===Was it right for the Board to create beta.wikiversity.org===
Does it really make sense to suggest that there should have been community discussion about creation of beta.wikiversity.org? I think it was obvious to the Board that a multi-lingual Wikiversity hub is a good idea. Yes, it is not obvious to everyone that beta.wikiversity.org is a good idea, but the question becomes this: would it be worth while for the Board to allow debate about beta.wikiversity.org? I suspect that this is a case where the Board felt so strongly about creating beta.wikiversity.org that they would have ordained its creation even if community-wide discussion reached consensus that there should not be a beta.wikiversity.org. So why bother having a discussion?

Does this mean that beta.wikiversity.org is a &quot;pet project&quot; of one or a few Board members? No. The decision to create beta.wikiversity.org just reflects the wisdom of the Board to do what is best to help launch and develop a Wikimedia sister project that was approved by community consensus.</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;width: 80%; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%; font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Please help design the [[m:Www.wikiversity.org_template|www.wikiversity.org portal]] and [[m:Wikiversity/logo|Wikiversity logo]] on meta.&lt;/div&gt;

[[User:Guillom|Guillom]] 14:57, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

*Interesting- How did you make the sitenotice disappear?--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|User talk]] 23:46, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
::[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_sitenotice_2006_Q4 dismiss button] for fund raising message. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 00:12, 17 December 2006 (UTC)</text>
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== Ouverture de la [[:fr:Accueil|Wikiversité francophone]] ==

La Wikiversité francophone a été ouverte le 1&lt;sup&gt;er&lt;/sup&gt; décembre 2006. N'hésitez pas à nous aider à démarrer le projet !

==Qu'est-ce que Wikiversity beta ?==

Wikiversity beta est une plate-forme centrale servant à coordonner les différents projets Wikiversity dans différentes langues. Cette '''[[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/Fr|coordination multilingue]]''' concerne les [[Wikiversity:Mission/Fr|missions]] et les [[Accueil#Directives|directives générales]] du cadre des projets Wikiversity (par exemple à propos des travaux de recherche originaux).

Wikiversity beta sert également d'incubateur pour des projets Wikiversity dans différentes langues. Pour le moment, les projets [[:en:|anglophone]], [[:de:|germanophone]] et [[:es:|hispanophone]] sont des [[Wikiversity:separate projects|projets séparés]].

'''Si vous souhaitez lancer un nouveau projet Wikiversity''', vous devez réunir au moins 10 participants actifs qui souhaitent travailler sur ce projet dans cette langue. À partir de ce quota, vous pouvez [[m:Requests for new languages#Requests for Wikiversity Languages|demander]] (sur meta) l'ouverture d'un nouveau domaine. En attendant, merci d'ajouter la page principale de votre projet au modèle [[Template:Main page]].

==Directives==

''Participez au développement (et à la traduction) de nos directives internationales.''

* [[Wikiversity:Scope of research/Fr|Type et champ des recherches]] : Wikiversity doit-elle accueillir tous les types de recherche, en particulier les travaux originaux ?
* [[Wikiversity:Research guidelines/Fr|Directives pour les travaux de recherche]] : Quelles doivent être les règles pour que les activités de recherche conservent un aspect académique ?

==En cours==

* Participez au développement de notre portail multilingue (http://www.wikiversity.org) sur [[m:Talk:Www.wikiversity.org template|Meta]] ;
* Proposez un [[m:Wikiversity/logo|logo]] pour Wikiversity.

==Autres projets==
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Wikiversity is hosted by the [[wikimedia:Home|Wikimedia Foundation]], a non-profit organization that also hosts a range of other [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Multilingual coordination|multilingual]] and [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Copyrights|free-content]] projects:

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Wikiversity est hébergé par la [[wikimedia:Accueil|Fondation Wikimedia]], une organisation à but non-lucratif qui héberge également plusieurs autres projets [[wikipedia:fr:Wikipédia:Coordination multilingue|multilingues]] et [[wikipedia:fr:Wikipédia:Copyright|libres]] :

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      <text xml:space="preserve">== Toc, toc, y-a-quelqu'un? ==

De multiples questions, évidemment. Au hasard dans le désordre : objectifs, stratégie, particularités de l'environnement Beta (passage d'une langue à l'autre, espaces de noms (en français) définis dans LocalSettings, contenu du monobook.js, etc., etc), le &quot;training&quot;, etc.,etc. ... En deux mots : comment s'organiser? A bientôt [[User:Jpm2112|Jpm2112]] 15:41, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Translations ==
Humm, excelent idea :D. This may make easier for non-english speakers to help improving and discussing. [[User:555|555]] 03:18, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

== Discussions multilingues ==

L'idée me paraît excellente. Il y a à y réfléchir pour la mettre en oeuvre dans les faits. Il y a déjà le souci des conflits de numérotation : il faut mettre au point une procédure plus ou moins automatique pour intégrer des discussions qui se sont déroulées en parallèle dans différentes langues et éventuellement les synthétiser - plusierus fils de discussion indéppendants peuvent avoir traité des mêms sujets et c'est en les rapprochant qu'on peut le constater. Cela dit : tu as raison je suis déjà beaucoup absorbé par les élections et j'ai peu de temps à consacrer à la maturation de ce projet qui me semble très intéressant. [[User:ArnoLagrange|ArnoLagrange]] 10:49, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

== User languages ==

I've started to [[Special:Contributions/Dcljr|work]] on the [[:Category:Users|User language templates and categories]], but I'd like your opinion on some things. Is my choice of &quot;root&quot; category ([[:Category:Users]]) okay, or do you think [[:Category:User languages]] would be better? More importantly, do we want to place users in ''two'' categories per language, the main category (say, [[:Category:User en]]) '''and''' the one for their ability level ([[:Category:User en-3]])? Or should people go in only ''one'' category per language, according to their ability level (in this case, [[:Category:User en-3]]). - [[User:Dcljr|dcljr]] 07:22, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks for your efforts. I don't think we are going to have many categories for users, but let's keep this organized: I think it is better to put them into the [[:Category:User languages]]. And I think people should only go in one category (for instance [[:Category:User en-3]]). [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 08:40, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

== Wikiversity Russe ==
Merci! Maintenant je commencerai à éditer le &quot;template&quot; de projets de soeur pour le Russe à [[Template:Sisterprojects/Ru]].--[[User:Lenev|Lenev]] 18:45, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

:Merci à ''toi'' pour ton travail :) (Désolé, je ne peux pas te répondre en Russe, même si je l'aurais bien voulu...) [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 18:47, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

== Re: {{tl|Browse}} ==
I noted it :) Thanks [[User:555|555]] 20:02, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
:Yes, this is a spam. This site inserts lots of spam links on articles from Portuguese Wikipedia periodically, to promote that website (from a brazilian school). Thanks for reverting, possible them read the announces on Esplanada (portuguese Village pump). [[User:555|555]] 20:27, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Welcome :) ==

I have posted a reply on [[User talk:Edward Z. Yang|my talk page]]. [[User:Edward Z. Yang|Edward Z. Yang]] 21:29, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
* Replied. &amp;mdash; &lt;span style=&quot;font-variant:small-caps;font-family:sans-serif;&quot;&gt;[[User:Edward Z. Yang|Edward Z. Yang]]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style=&quot;font-family:serif;&quot;&gt;([[User talk:Edward Z. Yang|Talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:33, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

== Hello ==

Thanks for your message, I hope I can help in a few weeks. At the moment I am quite busy. I am really excited with the Wikiversity and you really can count with me (when possible ;OD ) --[[User:Javier Carro|Javier Carro]] 17:26, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

== Traduction de la Proposition de Wikiversité approuvée ==

Bonjour,
y-a-t-il une traduction du texte fondateur [[http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Approved_Wikiversity_project_proposal]] de la wikiversité en français quelque part ? Pourquoi ce texte n'est il pas sur beta (at least in english) ?

Il me semble que pour pouvoir échanger avec les autres langues, ce serait intéressant de savoir sur quelle base on discute. Il me semble aussi que le texte sur la version fr de wkikibooks s'appuie sur la première proposition.
Pour être un peu positif, je veux bien démarrer la traduction [[User:JmG|JmG]] 12:03, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

:N'hésite pas, et merci pour ta motivation ! :) [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 20:44, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
OK, je m'y met la semaine prochaine. Est-ce une bonne idée de faire un import de la version anglaise sur beta ? Si oui, à toi de jouer ;-) --[[User:JmG|JmG]] 08:44, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
:Oui, mais la fonction d'import n'est toujours pas activée à partir de en. [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 10:50, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

== redirect ==

mea culpa j'ai betement fait comme sur la page principale [[Wikiversity:Scope of research]]. Voila tout. J'avoue que le mecanisme n'est pas encore très clair pour moi. Donc sur les pages toto/zz, il y a la traduction en zz des résumés publiés en anglais sur toto. Et dans talk:toto/zz, les discussions en zz. Est cela ? J'avoue que le redirect sur la page principale et une nouvelle discussion éditée sur [[Wikiversity:Scope of research/De]] et non sur [[Wikiversity talk:Scope of research/De]] m'ont fourvoyés. merci d'avoir rectifié [[User:Andre315|andre]] 15:43, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

== Main Page ==

Oh, hello! Thanks =). Me sorry, my english is terrible, and sorry for the delay...

Well, I support your opinion about the {NUMBEROFARTICLES} and the templates
of Year, Day and Mounth. I will do more things on the page, ok?

Again, it forgives me for the English... See you! ;) &lt;span style=&quot;font-variant:small-caps&quot;&gt;[[User:SallesNeto BR|Salles Neto]]&lt;/span&gt; [[Image:Bandeira_de_Roraima.svg|24px|Roraima]] &lt;sup&gt;[[user talk:SallesNeto_BR|@]]&lt;/sup&gt; 14:35, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

:Hi! I do it, please, see: [[User:SallesNeto BR/projetos/Página principal]]. IMHO is good, we can &quot;put&quot; on [[Página principal]] and translate in others languages? Thanks, good bye! &lt;span style=&quot;font-variant:small-caps&quot;&gt;[[User:SallesNeto BR|Salles Neto]]&lt;/span&gt; [[Image:Bandeira_de_Roraima.svg|24px|Roraima]] &lt;sup&gt;[[user talk:SallesNeto_BR|@]]&lt;/sup&gt; 18:10, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, I support your oppinion, my problem is that I cannot discute because my english is terrible, I repeat... well, I will think what I can do :). So long! &lt;span style=&quot;font-variant:small-caps&quot;&gt;[[User:SallesNeto BR|Salles Neto]]&lt;/span&gt; [[Image:Bandeira_de_Roraima.svg|24px|Roraima]] &lt;sup&gt;[[user talk:SallesNeto_BR|@]]&lt;/sup&gt; 14:27, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

==Bon Jour!==
Where are discussions about research guidelines?[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 11:10, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

== Research Guidelines ==

Are the (not yet existant) [[Wikiversity:Research guidelines]] for publishing research on Wikiversity, or for researching using Wikiversity?  [[User:Xenon|Xenon]] 14:19, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

:Okay, so the guidelines would involve ethical issues, don't trust everything you read and be aware that anyone can edit? That is as opposed to verifying your sources and NPOV. As [[Wikiversity:Scope of research/En|Scope]] says, we might allow: ''literature reviews that produce new knowledge; research projects within Wikiversity that use research methods in addition to literature review; and collaborative research projects involving researchers at scholarly institutions outside of Wikiversity.'' Unless you have any specific issues with the above, I'll throw my hat in the ring and get the guidelines going - [[User:Xenon|Xenon]] 14:45, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

== writing Research guidelines ==
1. Quote:&quot;*Research projects within Wikiversity that use research methods in addition to literature review (primary research)&quot;--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 01:58, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
*What does the phrase ''within wikiversity'' mean?

2. Quote:&quot;All research must be ethical. If you are deceiving, harming or using data without consent, that research should not be published on Wikiversity.&quot;
*I have some conceptual problems here. 
**What do you mean by ''published on wikiversity''?
**I gather that, everything I write here is public, but nothing would be ''published'', as long as I do not solemnly declare so.
**But then, in the above quote, do you really mean ''that research should not be '''conducted''' on wikiversity''?  Or do you mean that ''it is okay to do those unethical things so long as you don't include them in the final report''?--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 08:25, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

:Thank you.  I would like to see the definition of ''publish'' within wikiversity.  We should clarify its difference from ''discussion''.--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 09:01, 20 October 2006 (UTC)


==Modes of communications ==
Bon jour!  Please correct me if I am mistaken here:[[User:Hillgentleman/modes of communications]] .

---[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 12:38, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

== Bijour ==

Salut à toi, ô vénéré concierge temporaire (c'est la classe ce titre!)

Je me demandais ce que ce projet attendait exactement pour démarrer, et s'il s'agit des 10 membres de départ (comme semble le suggérer la page d'acceuil), je me propose! (j'ai le même pseudo sous Wikipédia, au cas où tu voudrais vérifier mes références^^). C'est toujours une joie pour moi de réexpliquer les quelques choses que j'ai comprises sur les bancs de l'école (je suis actuellement en 2ème année d'université) je pense donc que je pourrais apporter pas mal d'articles à ce projet, s'il dépasse un jour la version beta.

Au plaisir d'avoir de tes nouvelles (j'aurais plus vite ton message si tu me l'envois sur [http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Utilisateur:SoLune ma page de discussion Wikipédia]), cordialement, [[User:SoLune|SoLune]] 22:13, 3 November 2006 (UTC).

:Allo ya quelqu'un? [[User:SoLune|SoLune]] 15:48, 11 November 2006 (UTC).

::Salut,&lt;br/&gt;J'ai consulté les pages que tu m'as donné, mais comme je n'y vois ni vote ni discussion je ne vois pas vraiment ce que je pourrais y faire. Modifier directement la page principale qui définie les grandes lignes du Wikiversity? Je préfère laisser ça à des utilisateurs plus expérimentés que moi. D'ailleurs ces bases (que j'ai parcourues) m'ont l'air très bien, je pense que leurs défauts n'apparaitront vraiment qu'après le démarrage du projet.&lt;br/&gt;Je continue de passer de temps en temps pour voir si ça démarre. Tien moi quand même informé si ça ne te dérange pas.&lt;br/&gt;A bientot, [[User:SoLune|SoLune]] 14:41, 19 November 2006 (UTC).

== Which namespace ==
*Bonjour!  In which namespace should I put the discussions of the basic issues for setting up a zh:wikiversity?--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 20:51, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
*Is the following correct?  ''Cette page accueille les discussions sur les questions fondamentales pour installer un projet de wikiversity en Chinois.''--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 20:57, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

*Bonjour!  How much preparation should we take, after we have ten participants, before we propose on meta?-[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 04:31, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

== Users by language ==

Hello Guillom. This is my suggestion: why not create categories ''Users by language''? It's a easy way to find colleagues from local projects and make a community to start a new version of Wikiversisty. BTW, we (PT group) have 14 votes in [[m:Requests to new languages]] to start the Portuguese Wikiversity. We can start? --[[User:Slade|Slade]] &lt;sup&gt;[[m:User:Slade|meta]]&lt;/sup&gt; 17:53, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

:Yes, you found the categories, thanks. Well, we have 14 votes, but just two interested to work (me and [[User:555|555]]). We will start at [[Wikiversidade]] and later, request the creation at bugzilla. Thanks. --[[User:Slade|Slade]] &lt;sup&gt;[[m:User:Slade|meta]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:05, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

== New logo ==

Guillom, could you change the actual logo from the news logo (the greek-style logo), but with a litte &quot;beta&quot;? --[[User:Slade|Slade]] &lt;sup&gt;[[m:User:Slade|meta]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:07, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

:OK, thanks [[image:wink.png]] --[[User:Slade|Slade]] &lt;sup&gt;[[m:User:Slade|meta]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:45, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

== Bonjour ==

Bonjour,

Je souhaiterais également être informé (sur Wikipédia : [[w:Discussion Utilisateur:Grasyop]]) lorsque la wikiversité francophone ouvrira ses portes. Par contre, il vaut mieux ne pas me compter comme un participant de plus pour atteindre le chiffre minimum de dix : je ne suis pas sûr d'être très actif et je pense qu'il vaut mieux ne pas ouvrir le projet prématurément.

[[Utilisateur:Grasyop|Grasyop]] &lt;sup&gt;[[Discussion Utilisateur:Grasyop|✉]]&lt;/sup&gt; 09:17, 1 December 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">==Yop==

Bienvenue à bord. Pour le reste, et bien... tu as le droit d'y réfléchir, je te ferai part de mes idées quand j'aurai eu le temps d'y penser :) [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 15:51, 24 August 2006 (UTC)</text>
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Procure mais sobre mim em
* [[wikisource:pt:Usuário:555|Wikisource lusófono]]
* [[wikipedia:pt:Usuário:555|Wikipédia lusófona]]
* [[:m:User:555|Meta-Wiki]]</text>
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      <comment>adicionando fr.wikiversity.org como projecto independente</comment>
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{{Frame|Wikiversity:Announcements/Pt}}__NOTOC__

==O que é o Wikiversidade beta?==

Este projeto é uma plataforma global que pretende coordenar as diversas edições idiomáticas do Wikiversidade. Tal [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism|coordenação multilingüe]] se dará através da [[Wikiversity:Mission/Pt|missão]] e políticas comuns do Wikiversidade (por exemplo, a relativa a pesquisa científica original).

O sítio Wikiversidade beta também é um espaço de desenvolvimento (incubadora) para as Wikiversidades em diversos idiomas. Até o momento, existem [[Wikiversity:Separate projects|projetos em separado]] para as edições [[:en:|em Inglês]], [[:de:|em Alemão]], [[:es:|em Espanhol]] e em [[:fr:|Francês]].

'''Se você deseja criar uma nova Wikiversidade''', você precisa de pelo menos dez participantes ativos dispostos a editar no idioma que deseje criar uma wiki em separado. Quando você conseguir tal quantia, poderá [[:m:Requests for new languages#Requests_for_Wikiversity_Languages|requisitar no Meta]] a criação da nova wiki. Entretanto, adicione a página principal de seu projeto em [[Template:Main page]].

''Você também pode dar uma olhada na [[Help:FAQ/Pt|FAQ]].''

== Políticas ==
''Por gentileza, ajude a desenvolver (e traduzir) nossas políticas internacionais que se apliquem a quaisquer edição idiomática.''

* [[Wikiversity:Scope of research|Leque de pesquisas]] &amp;mdash; deverá a Wikiversidade permitir todas as formas de pesquisa, incluindo pesquisas científicas originais?
* [[Wikiversity:Research guidelines|Regras para pesquisas]] &amp;mdash; que regras são necessárias para existir pesquisa científica de forma parecida com as do meio acadêmico?

== Em progresso ==
* Desenvolvimento do portal multilingüe http://www.wikiversity.org no [[:m:Talk:Www.wikiversity.org template|Meta]].
* Participe da [[:m:Wikiversity/logo|escolha do novo logotipo]]
* [[:en:Wikiversity:Motto_contest|Concurso do slogan]] da Wikiversidade em inglês.

==[[Wikiversity:Separate projects|Edições independentes]]==

* [[Wikiversity:Reports/En|Notícias de edições independentes]]

==Projetos paralelos==

{{Sisterprojects/Pt}}
{{Main page interwikis}}</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">Hello :-) [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] 19:16, 24 August 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">Hello :-) [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] 19:16, 24 August 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;background-color: #FFFFFF; margin: 0; border: 1px solid #DEDED3; padding: 7px 7px 0px 7px;  -moz-border-radius:5px&quot;&gt;
A Wikiversidade existe graças à [[:wikimedia:|Wikimedia Foundation]], uma entidade sem fins lucrativos. A Wikimedia está realizando vários projectos em diversas línguas, sempre com conteúdo livre.

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| '''[http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Wikipedia]'''&lt;br /&gt;A enciclopédia livre
| align=&quot;center&quot; | [[Image:Wiktionary-logo-en.png|51px|Wiktionary]]
| '''[http://pt.wiktionary.org/wiki/ Wikcionário]'''&lt;br /&gt;Dicionário em várias línguas
| align=&quot;center&quot; | [[Image:Wikiquote-logo.png|40px|Wikiquote]]
| '''[http://pt.wikiquote.org/wiki/ Wikiquote]'''&lt;br /&gt;Colectânea de citações
|-
| align=&quot;center&quot; | [[Image:Wikinews-logo.png|51px|Wikinews]]
| '''[http://pt.wikinews.org/wiki/ Wikinotícias]'''&lt;br /&gt;Fonte de notícias livre
| align=&quot;center&quot; | [[Image:Wikispecies-logo.png|35px|Wikispecies]]
| '''[[:wikispecies:|Wikispecies]]'''&lt;br /&gt;Directório de espécies
| align=&quot;center&quot; | [[Image:Wikibooks-logo.png|35px|Wikibooks]]
| '''[http://pt.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Wikilivros]'''&lt;br /&gt;Livros e manuais livres
|-
| align=&quot;center&quot; | [[Image:Wikisource-logo.png|35px|Wikisource]]
| '''[http://pt.wikisource.org/wiki/ Wikisource]'''&lt;br /&gt;Documentos originais livres
| align=&quot;center&quot; | [[Image:Commons-logo.png|31px|Commons]]
| '''[[:commons:|Wikimedia Commons]]'''&lt;br /&gt;Repositório de imagens, sons e vídeos
| align=&quot;center&quot; | [[Image:Wikimedia-logo.png |35px|Meta]]
| '''[[:m:|Meta-Wiki]]'''&lt;br /&gt;Coordenação dos projectos
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http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usu%C3%A1rio:FML</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">Seja bem vindo! =) [[User:FML|FML]] 02:57, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

:Olá Lije =)! Esbocei algo para a pág. principal, o que achas disso: [[User:SallesNeto BR/projetos/Página principal]]? Abraços, &lt;span style=&quot;font-variant:small-caps&quot;&gt;[[User:SallesNeto BR|Salles Neto]]&lt;/span&gt; [[Image:Bandeira_de_Roraima.svg|24px|Roraima]] &lt;sup&gt;[[user talk:SallesNeto_BR|@]]&lt;/sup&gt; 18:18, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

::Lije, em relação à sua súvida de sobre como anda o progresso por aqui, vá até a [[project:Wikiversidade]] e ajuda a terminar a tradução de [[Wikiversité]]. Com aquele conteúdo pronto, já se pode pedir o projeto no bugzilla. Até mais, [[User:Slade|Slade]] &lt;sup&gt;[[m:User:Slade|meta]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:04, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

=D. Além de traduzir a página que o Slade citou, precisamos também de mais lusófonos por aqui, pois, como diz a página inicial: &lt;font color=gray&gt;''Se você deseja criar uma nova Wikiversidade, &lt;u&gt;você precisa de pelo menos dez participantes ativos&lt;/u&gt; dispostos a editar no idioma que deseje criar uma wiki em separado.''&lt;/font&gt; (sublinhado meu).

Estou convocando alguns colegas do 'books. Meu problema maior é que pouco sei de outros idiomas, e quase nada do francês =S... bem, mas o [http://babelfish.altavista.com/ Babelfish] está aí para isso =). Mãos à obra! &lt;span style=&quot;font-variant:small-caps&quot;&gt;[[User:SallesNeto BR|Salles Neto]]&lt;/span&gt; [[Image:Bandeira_de_Roraima.svg|24px|Roraima]] &lt;sup&gt;[[user talk:SallesNeto_BR|@]]&lt;/sup&gt; 13:36, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

== mediazilla ==

&lt;font color=gray&gt;'''Citação:''' Lijealso escreveu «já reparei que foi pedida a activação da pt.wikiversity no mediazilla.»&lt;/font&gt;

Podes mandar um link? &lt;span style=&quot;font-variant:small-caps&quot;&gt;[[User:SallesNeto BR|Salles Neto]]&lt;/span&gt; [[Image:Bandeira_de_Roraima.svg|24px|Roraima]] &lt;sup&gt;[[user talk:SallesNeto_BR|@]]&lt;/sup&gt; 12:57, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

:Sim, mas já faz uma semana que pedi e eles insistem em ignorar o pedido. Até já enviei email ao Gangleri? O que fazer? --[[User:Slade|Slade]] &lt;sup&gt;[[m:User:Slade|meta]]&lt;/sup&gt; 03:19, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Obrigado. &lt;span style=&quot;font-variant:small-caps&quot;&gt;[[User:SallesNeto BR|Salles Neto]]&lt;/span&gt; [[Image:Bandeira_de_Roraima.svg|24px|Roraima]] &lt;sup&gt;[[user talk:SallesNeto_BR|@]]&lt;/sup&gt; 01:19, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

==informações==
hi '''Lijealso''', eu posso escrever em português aqui... ? quero saber mais sobre este projeto: wikiversity. alexandre [[User:Alexandre braz de macêdo|Alexandre braz de macêdo]] 06:36, 19 December 2006 (UTC)</text>
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{{User:Sebmol/Notice}}
== Hello ==

Hello,&lt;br /&gt;
Well , what do we do now for starting?&lt;br /&gt;
Where can we discuss? (alltogether and in specific languages)&lt;br /&gt;
How do I create an article : for instance : Fr/xxx or otherwise?&lt;br /&gt;
And so on…&lt;br /&gt;
Regards [[User:Jpm2112|Jpm2112]] 05:01, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

:Just be bold and get started. You could create a page for discussion, link to it from the main page and announce it on the respective places on meta and wherever else you think people would be interested. [[User:Sebmol|Sebmol]] 18:18, 25 August 2006 (UTC)</text>
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I'm a sysop at Portuguese projects. For more info, see my page at '''[[m:User:Slade|meta]]'''.</text>
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      <comment>Wikiversidade</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">#O que podemos começar a fazer aqui? Transladar as páginas do wikibooks?
#Sabe se quando houver a versão lusófona, as contas serão movidas? --[[User:Slade|Slade]] &lt;sup&gt;[[m:User:Slade|meta]]&lt;/sup&gt; 17:13, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

:OK, então avise (aqui, ou na wp-wn-wq) quando podemos começar. --[[User:Slade|Slade]] &lt;sup&gt;[[m:User:Slade|meta]]&lt;/sup&gt; 15:34, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

== Translations ==

Hi and thanks for your help :)

About your [[Template:Languages]]: I'd like not to have this distinction between English language and the other ones. The aim is to allow multilingual discussions and not to translate every single page from English to fr, pt, etc. What I'm proposing is a system where we have one synthesis page (in English), and then several subpages in English, French, Portuguese, where people can discuss in their own language. One or several coordinators/translators are in charge with summing up the subpages discussions and writing the summary on the synthesis page. They should also reflect important changes / questions / summaries from other languages on their subpage.

What do you think? [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 06:59, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

=={{tl|Browse}}==

Hi :) I see you have edited [http://beta.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=Wikiversity%3AMultilingualism&amp;diff=2387&amp;oldid=629 this page] to add pt. Just to tell you you need to edit {{tl|Browse}} too ;) [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 20:00, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

:By the way, I have reverted [http://beta.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=P%C3%A1gina_principal&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=908 this edit] assuming it was some kind of spam. Could you confirm please? [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 20:23, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

== Wikiversidade ==

Olá, Lugusto!
Eu [http://pt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Usu%C3%A1rio_Discuss%C3%A3o%3AKalEl&amp;diff=3364206&amp;oldid=3128289 já tenho] sim uma conta aqui. No META eu só fiz apoiar a criação da Wikiversidade em portugues e estava mesmo esperando que fosse criado uma para tentar contribuir massivamente. Pelo que eu entendi, voce quer que hajam mais contribuintes traduzindo no BETA para que seja criada uma wikiversidade pra a gente, certo? Se for, começarei a trabalhar ''logo''! Abraços, --[[User:Luis Sergio Moura|Luis Sergio Moura]] 18:50, 3 October 2006 (UTC)</text>
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[[Category:Multilingualism]]</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">* '''En''' This category is about general Wikiversity issues.
* '''Fr''' Cette catégorie est consacrée aux sujets généraux de Wikiversity.
* '''Zh''' 此為一般維基學院事務之類.
[[Category:Root]]</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">* '''[[Wikiversity:Multilingualism]]'''

{{multilingual}}
&lt;div class=&quot;multilingual&quot;&gt;
{{ls|en|This category gathers pages related to [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/En|multilingualism]].}}
{{ls|fr|Cette catégorie rassemble les pages liées au [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/Fr|multilinguisme]].}}
{{ls|ksh|Di Saachjropp hee sammt Sigge, di_med_de [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/Ksh|Fillshproocheshkëijt]] ze_donn_hann.}}
{{ls|pt|Esta categoria acolhe páginas relacionadas com o [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism|multilingüísmo]].}}
{{ls|zh|此類 集有關[[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/Zh|多語言]]之頁也.}}
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      <text xml:space="preserve">Ainda há uma mensagem de boas-vindas padrão? Isto está mesmo no começo. [[User:Lijealso|Lijealso]] 18:09, 25 August 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <comment>/* trad */</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">Quanto ao 1, ainda não. Quanto ao 2, contas não são movidas, mas, o login universal está para ser implantado em pouquíssimo tempo. [[User:555|555]] 21:50, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

== Categories and Portuguese Wikiversity ==

Hello. Are you talking about [[:Category:Users by language]] and [[:Category:User pt]]? About the Pt Wikiversity, be sure to have users who are really motivated to get involved in the project. When I asked people who had voted for the French Wikiversity, many were supporting the ''idea'' but said they wouldn't be very active within the ''project'' itself. If you feel you have a community, you can request the opening of the portuguese Wikiversity on bugzilla. If you need help about this step, tell me and I'll help you. While that, you can start preparing the way you want to organize the project, it will help you to have a starting point. That's what we French-speaking people are doing here: [[Wikiversité]]. You can do it at [[Wikiversidade]] (this page is a redirect page for the moment, but you can modify it). Cheers! [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 18:35, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

== New logo ==

Hello. Yes, I could, but the colour of the logo hasn't been chosen yet, so I prefer to wait until it's done. [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 22:08, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

== Novos usuários ==

Chegaram ''[http://beta.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=Wikiversity:Wikiversidade/Divis%C3%B5es&amp;curid=2074&amp;diff=4147&amp;oldid=4146 abuz][http://beta.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=Help:FAQ/Pt&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=4149 ados]'' o [[user:João Carvalho]] e [[user:Neko]]. Estamos progredindo, mais dois em 1 dia significa que em mais três já teremos os 10, hehehe =P. Abraços, &lt;span style=&quot;font-variant:small-caps&quot;&gt;[[User:SallesNeto BR|Salles Neto]]&lt;/span&gt; [[Image:Bandeira_de_Roraima.svg|24px|Roraima]] &lt;sup&gt;[[user talk:SallesNeto_BR|@]]&lt;/sup&gt; 02:05, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

==trad==

Parece que cheguei atrasado para traduzir as páginas indicadas. No entanto, já reparei que foi pedida a activação da pt.wikiversity no mediazilla. [[User:Lijealso|Lijealso]] 07:03, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Bem. Montar um novo site Mediawiki não é uma tarefa trivial. Está lá um pedido que fiz para mudar o link dos uploads na wiki.pt já deve fazer mais de um mês. Cheguei a fazer uma insistência mas disseram-me para ter calma e que não era por insistir que a coisa avançava mais depressa.

Há que ter paciência. [[User:Lijealso|Lijealso]] 12:45, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

==novato==
Olá estou chegando agora e gostaria de saber como posso contribuir. alexandre [[User:Alexandre braz de macêdo|Alexandre braz de macêdo]] 06:48, 19 December 2006 (UTC)</text>
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'''Wikiversity Beta Page'''
--------------------------
'''Activity in other languages/ wiki-projects'''

[http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lenev] Español

[http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lenev] Русский

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lenev] English

[http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lenev] Français

[http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lenev] Italiano

[http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lenev] 日本語

[http://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lenev] Українська

[http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lenev] Català

[http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lenev] Српски

Note: Even though I have accounts and userpages set up in every one of these Wikipedias, I am only active in a few of them.

[[:meta:User:Lenev]] Meta</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;margin: 5px; text-align: center; font-size:18px; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif;&quot;&gt;Добро пожаловать на Wikiversity beta&lt;/div&gt;
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==Что такое Викиверситет Beta?==

Это глобальная платформа координирующая Викиверситеты на разных языках. Такая '''[[Wikiversity:Multiligualism/En|межязыковая координация]]''' должна проводиться в соответствии с [[Wikiversity:Mission|Миссией]] Wikiversity и общими [[#Guidelines|директивами]] проекта.

Викиверситет Бета также служит «инкубатором» для ''вики''верситетов/уни''вики''тетов на разных языках. На данный момент, существуют два самостоятельных Викиверситета: на [[:en:Wikiversity:Main Page|английском]] и на [[:de:Hauptseite|немецком]] языках.

'''Если вы хотите создать новый Викиверситет''', необходимо как минимум 10 участников которые согласились бы работать над ним. Найдя десять единомышленников, вам нужно будет подать [[m:Requests for new languages#Requests for Wikiversity Languages|заявку]] на сайте Metawiki. А пока добавьте главную страницу вашего проекта на [[Template:Main page]].
Можете также ознакомиться с [[Help:FAQ/Ru|ответами на распространённые вопросы]].

==Директивы==
''Пожалуйста помогите развить (и перевести) наши международные директивы которые относятся ко всем проектам.''
*[[Wikiversity:Scope of research/Ru]] - какие типы исследований должны проводится в Викиверситете?
*[[Wikiversity:Research guidelines/Ru]] - какие правила должны быть созданны для поддержания &quot;академичности&quot; исследований в рамках проекта?

==В разработке==
*Помогите развить наш международный портал(http://www.wikiversity.org) на [[m:Talk:Www.wikiversity.org template|Мету]]
*Вступите в наш конкурс на лучший логотип для Wikiversity [[m:Wikiversity/logo|Конкурс]].

==Другие Проекты==
{{Sisterprojects/Ru}}
{{Main page interwikis}}</text>
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      <comment>/* Welcome */ :Merci à ''toi'' pour ton travail :) (Désolé, je ne peux pas te répondre en Russe, même si je l'aurais bien voulu...) ~~~~</comment>
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Welcome and thanks for your help on tranlation ! Please think to add your page to [[Template:Main page]] when finished. Thank you again :) [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 19:11, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
:Merci à ''toi'' pour ton travail :) (Désolé, je ne peux pas te répondre en Russe, même si je l'aurais bien voulu...) [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 18:47, 29 August 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <comment>''Cette catégorie rassemble les pages en français.''[[Category:Pages by language]]</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">''Cette catégorie rassemble les pages en français.''

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      <comment>/* Traduction */ voir aussi * [[Wikiversity:Language select/Fr]]</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Wikiversity:Multilingualism}}

Wikiversity beta est une plate-forme centrale servant à coordonner les différents projets Wikiversity dans différentes langues. Afin de profiter de la diversité des idées de ses participants, et pas seulement des anglophones, Beta doit mettre en place un système efficace de discussion multilingue.

== Système existant ==

Le multilinguisme est souvent un concept à sens unique : tout d'abord, il y a une page source en anglais, qui est ensuite traduite afin de rendre son contenu accessible aux personnes ne comprenant pas l'anglais. Le principal inconvénient de ce système est que les non-anglophones ne peuvent pas prendre part à la conversation ; tout ce qu'ils peuvent faire, c'est lire passivement ce qui est traduit.

Comme les sujets discutés sur Beta concernent les projets Wikiversity quelle que soit leur langue, il est nécessaire que les participants de tous les projets puissent faire part de leurs opinions.

== Système proposé ==

''Toute discussion à propos de cette proposition est bienvenue en page de discussion.''

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[[Image:Discussion1.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''1''' - Les participants commençant une nouvelle discussion écrivent un court résumé expliquant sa problématique et donnent un lien depuis la page de coordination (page mère).]]
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[[Image:Discussion2.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''2''' - Les traducteurs rédigent le résumé dans les autres langues, et indiquent les liens depuis la page de coordination.]]
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[[Image:Discussion3.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''3''' - Sur chaque page de discussion par langue, les participants discutent, expriment leurs opinions et posent leurs questions. Ils résument leurs interventions dans un court paragraphe numéroté qu'ils inscrivent sur leur page par langue. Sur la page de coordination, ils donnent le numéro et un lien vers ce résumé.]]
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&lt;div style=&quot;width:49%;display:block;float:right;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion4.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''4''' - Les traducteurs vérifient régulièrement la page de coordination et répercutent le nouveau résumé sur leurs pages en indiquant son numéro, et ajoutent les liens depuis la page de coordination.]]
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[[Image:Discussion5.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''5''' - La discussion continue. Chaque nouveau résumé se voit attribuer un numéro unique l'identifiant sur la page de coordination et les sous-pages par langues.]]
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=== Directives pour que le système fonctionne ===
* '''Le plus court est le mieux :''' la concision est la clé de discussions multilingues efficaces. Les paragraphes trop longs ne seront probablement pas traduits ni répercutés sur les pages des autres langues. Cela signifie que les éventuelles idées, critiques ou questions ne seront pas portées à l'attention des autres participants.
* '''Annonce :''' l'ouverture d'une discussion est annoncée sur [[Wikiversity:Announcements/Fr]].
* '''Numérotation des paragraphes :''' les paragraphes de résumé devraient être numérotés pour être identifiés facilement ; le premier résumé (lancement de la discussion) est le n° 1, et les autres suivent chronologiquement. Cela signifie que les participants doivent vérifier les pages des autres langues avant de poster un paragraphe sur leur page, afin de s'assurer que leur page est à jour (pour éviter les conflits de numéro de paragraphe).

=== Avantages de ce système ===
* Tout le monde peut prendre part à la discussion.
* Les participants sont obligés d'être brefs et de se concentrer sur les points clés.
* Le consensus est probable entre les participants, quelle que soit leur langue.

===Inconvénients ===
* Ce système dépend du nombre de traducteurs et de leur efficacité.

== Traduction ==

;Traducteurs
Si vous êtes compétent dans plusieurs langues, vous pouvez vous ajouter à la liste de traducteurs sur '''[[Wikiversity:Translation]].'''

==Voir aussi==

* [[Wikiversity:Language select/Fr]]


[[Category:Multilingualism|Fr]]
[[Category:FR]]</text>
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    <title>Wikiversity:Site support</title>
    <id>59</id>
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      <id>3341</id>
      <timestamp>2006-10-11T05:36:19Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Hillgentleman</username>
        <id>30</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">{{multilingual}}
&lt;div class=&quot;multilingual&quot;&gt;
{{ls|en|'''[[:en:Wikiversity:What is Wikiversity?|Wikiversity]]''' is a project of the '''[[wikimedia:Home|Wikimedia Foundation Inc.]]''', a non-profit organization with the goal of providing free knowledge to every person in the world. Wikiversity is exploring ways to use the power of [[wikipedia:wiki|wiki]] to support online learning.

If you wish to financially support Wikiversity, consider '''[[wikimedia:Fundraising|donating]]''' for the Wikimedia Foundation.
}}
{{ls|fr|'''Wikiversity''' est un projet de la '''[[wikimedia:Accueil|Fondation Wikimedia]]''', une organisation à but non lucratif visant à rendre accessible la connaissance libre à toute personne dans le monde. Wikiversity explore les manières de tirer profit de la technologie [[wikipedia:fr:wiki|wiki]] pour l'enseignement en ligne.

Si vous voulez supporter financièrement Wikiversity, vous pouvez envisager de '''[[wikimedia:Fundraising|faire un don]]''' à la Fondation Wikimedia.
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{{ls|ksh|De '''Wikkiversität''' ess_en Projäk fun_de jemëjnnözzijje Shtėfftung '''„[[:wikimedia:|Wikimedia Foundation]]“''', wo frëij un offe Weßße fö jeede Minsch en de Wälldt praat määt. De Wikkiversitäte donn de [[:wikipedia:ksh:Wikki|Wikkis]] ier Shtärrke ensäzze fö_t Liehre em Ingernet füraan_ze_brenge.

Wänn_Ühr de Wikkiversitäte med Jëld ongershtözze wullt, dooht or_enß överlääje, fö de Shtėfftung ze '''[[:wikimedia:Spenden|sammelle]]'''.
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{{ls|pt|A '''Wikiversidade''' é um projeto da '''[[:wikimedia:Página principal|Wikimedia Foundation]]''', uma organização sem fins lucrativos com o objetivo de prover o livre saber a qualquer pessoa do mundo. A Wikiversidade está explorando formas de usar o poder de um [[:wikipedia:pt:wiki|wiki]] para auxiliar a educação à distância.

Se você deseja contribuir finaceiramente a Wikiversidade, considere '''[[:wikimedia:Coleta de fundos|fazer uma doação]]''' para a Wikimedia Foundation.
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{{ls|zh|'''[[:zh:Wikiversity:何為維基學院?|維基學院]]'''是'''[[wikimedia:%E9%A6%96%E9%A1%B5|維基媒體基金會]]'''的一項計劃.
維基媒體基金會是一非謀利組織, 其目標為提供世界上每一個人自由的知識. 維基學院探索以[[:wikipedia:zh:維基|維基]]支援網上學習之道.

若您想財政上支持維基學院, 請考慮'''[[wikimedia:Fundraising|捐贈]]'''給維基媒體基金會.
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  <page>
    <title>Template:User de</title>
    <id>60</id>
    <revision>
      <id>2936</id>
      <timestamp>2006-09-10T12:32:13Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Purodha</username>
        <id>45</id>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <comment>+ Category:User de-N</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #6EF7A7 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#C5FCDC&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#6EF7A7;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''de'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Dieser Benutzer spricht '''[[:Category:DE|Deutsch]]''' als '''[[:Category:User de-N|Muttersprache]]'''.[[Category:User de|{{PAGENAME}}]][[Category:User de-N|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Template:User de-4</title>
    <id>61</id>
    <revision>
      <id>258</id>
      <timestamp>2006-07-16T09:59:00Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Ft1</ip>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <comment>no wikilink as for the other language templates</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #FFFF99 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
{| cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#FFFF99&quot;
| style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#FFFF00;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot; | '''de-4'''
| style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot; | Dieser Benutzer hat '''[[:Category:User de-4|mit einem Muttersprachler vergleichbare]] [[:Category:User de|Deutschkenntnisse]]'''. [[Category:User de|{{PAGENAME}}]] [[Category:User de-4|{{PAGENAME}}]]
|} &lt;/div&gt;</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Template:User de-3</title>
    <id>62</id>
    <revision>
      <id>260</id>
      <timestamp>2005-02-23T16:10:25Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Aphaia</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>copy from [[Commons:Template:User de-3]] a bit modefied</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #99B3FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#E0E8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#99B3FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''de-3'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Dieser Benutzer hat '''[[:Category:User de-3|sehr gute]]''' '''[[:Category:User de|Deutschkenntnisse]]'''.[[Category:User de-3|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
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  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User de-2</title>
    <id>63</id>
    <revision>
      <id>678</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T06:40:01Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Dcljr</username>
        <id>36</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>includeonly/noinclude</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #77E0E8 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#D0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#77E0E8;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''de-2'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Dieser Benutzer hat '''[[:Category:User de-2|fortgeschrittene]]''' '''[[:Category:User de|Deutschkenntnisse]]'''.&lt;includeonly&gt;[[Category:User de-2|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/includeonly&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;noinclude&gt;[[Category:User de-2|*]]&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Template:User de-1</title>
    <id>64</id>
    <revision>
      <id>677</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T06:39:02Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Dcljr</username>
        <id>36</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>oninclude/includeonly</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #C0C8FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#F0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#C0C8FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''de-1'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Dieser Benutzer hat '''[[:Category:User de-1|grundlegende]] [[:Category:User de|Deutschkenntnisse]]'''.&lt;includeonly&gt;[[Category:User de-1|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/includeonly&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;noinclude&gt;[[Category:User de-1|*]]&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Template:User en</title>
    <id>65</id>
    <revision>
      <id>695</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T06:48:35Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Dcljr</username>
        <id>36</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>try this...</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #6EF7A7 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#C5FCDC&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#6EF7A7;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''en'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;This user is a '''[[:Category:User en-N|native]] [[:Category:User en|English]]''' speaker.&lt;noinclude&gt;[[Category:User en|*]]&lt;/noinclude&gt;&lt;includeonly&gt;[[Category:User en-N|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/includeonly&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Template:User en-4</title>
    <id>66</id>
    <revision>
      <id>688</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T06:42:58Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Dcljr</username>
        <id>36</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>includeonly/noinclude; also, rem &quot;en&quot; cat -- 1 cat is sufficient</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #CCCC00 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#FFFF99&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#FFFF00;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''en-4'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;This user is able to contribute with a '''[[:Category:User en-4|near-native]]''' level of '''[[:Category:User en|English]]'''.&lt;includeonly&gt;[[Category:User en-4|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/includeonly&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;noinclude&gt;[[Category:User en-4|*]]&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Template:User en-3</title>
    <id>67</id>
    <revision>
      <id>2937</id>
      <timestamp>2006-09-10T12:33:37Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Purodha</username>
        <id>45</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>+ Category:User en</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #99B3FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#E0E8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#99B3FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''en-3'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;This user is able to contribute with an '''[[:Category:User en-3|advanced]]''' level of '''[[:Category:User en|English]]'''.[[Category:User en|{{PAGENAME}}]][[Category:User en-3|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Template:User en-2</title>
    <id>68</id>
    <revision>
      <id>303</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-09T14:10:18Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Adjusting color code of template for level 2 proficiency.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #77E0E8 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#D0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#77E0E8;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''en-2'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;This user is able to contribute with an '''[[:Category:User en-2|intermediate]]''' level of '''[[:Category:User en|English]]'''.[[Category:User en-2|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Template:User en-1</title>
    <id>69</id>
    <revision>
      <id>310</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-09T18:47:49Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Adjusting color code of template for level 1 proficiency.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #C0C8FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#F0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#C0C8FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''en-1'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;This user is able to contribute with a '''[[:Category:User en-1|basic]]''' level of '''[[:Category:User en|English]]'''.[[Category:User en-1|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Template:User pt</title>
    <id>70</id>
    <revision>
      <id>316</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-01T02:13:29Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>201.17.119.109</ip>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #6EF7A7 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#C5FCDC&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#6EF7A7;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''pt'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Este usuário fala '''português''' como sua '''[[:Category:User pt|língua-mãe]]'''.[[Category:User pt|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Template:User pt-4</title>
    <id>71</id>
    <revision>
      <id>318</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-09T22:37:45Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>New Babel template: pt-4</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #CCCC00 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
{| cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#FFFF99&quot;
| style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#FFFF00;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot; | '''pt-4'''
| style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot; | Este usuário tem domínio do '''[[:Category:User pt-4|português]]''' similar ao de um '''[[:Category:User pt|nativo]]'''. [[Category:User pt|{{PAGENAME}}]][[Category:User pt-4|{{PAGENAME}}]]
|}&lt;/div&gt;</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Template:User pt-3</title>
    <id>72</id>
    <revision>
      <id>321</id>
      <timestamp>2005-03-25T01:14:48Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Diego UFCG</ip>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #99B3FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#E0E8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#99B3FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''pt-3'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Este usuário pode contribuir com um nível '''[[:Category:User pt-3|avançado]]''' de '''[[:Category:User pt|português]]'''.[[Category:User pt-3|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Template:User pt-2</title>
    <id>73</id>
    <revision>
      <id>324</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-09T14:08:26Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Adjusting color code of template for level 2 proficiency.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #77E0E8 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#D0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#77E0E8;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''pt-2'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Este usuário pode contribuir com um nível '''[[:Category:User pt-2|intermediário]]''' de '''[[:Category:User pt|português]]'''.[[Category:User pt-2|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User pt-1</title>
    <id>74</id>
    <revision>
      <id>327</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-09T18:48:39Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Adjusting color code of template for level 1 proficiency.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #C0C8FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#F0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#C0C8FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''pt-1'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Este usuário pode contribuir com um nível '''[[:Category:User pt-1|básico]]''' de '''[[:Category:User pt|português]]'''.[[Category:User pt-1|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User es</title>
    <id>75</id>
    <revision>
      <id>334</id>
      <timestamp>2006-03-19T10:07:31Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>CHV</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Igualo al resto de idomas</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #6EF7A7 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#C5FCDC&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#6EF7A7;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''es'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Este usuario es '''[[:Category:User es-N|hablante nativo]] de [[:Category:User es|español]]'''.[[Category:User es-N|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Sandbox</title>
    <id>76</id>
    <revision>
      <id>336</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-26T20:22:20Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Chun-hian</username>
        <id>27</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Redirecting to [[Wikiversity:Sandbox]]</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">#REDIRECT[[Wikiversity:Sandbox]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User es-4</title>
    <id>77</id>
    <revision>
      <id>342</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-09T17:23:58Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Adjusting color code of template for level 4 proficiency.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #FFFF99 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#FFFF99&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#FFFF00;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''es-4'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Este usuario puede contribuir con un nivel '''[[:Category:User es-4|casi nativo]]''' de '''[[:Category:User es|español]]'''.[[Category:User es-4|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User es-3</title>
    <id>78</id>
    <revision>
      <id>344</id>
      <timestamp>2005-02-23T16:53:46Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Aphaia</ip>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <comment>copy from [[Commons:Template:User es-3]] a bit modefied</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #99B3FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#E0E8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#99B3FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''es-3'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Este usuario puede contribuir con un nivel '''[[:Category:User es-3|avanzado]]''' de '''[[:Category:User es|español]]'''.[[Category:User es-3]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>User talk:Chun-hian</title>
    <id>79</id>
    <revision>
      <id>346</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-26T20:23:28Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Chun-hian</username>
        <id>27</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Redirecting to [[en:User talk:Chun-hian]]</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">#REDIRECT[[:en:User talk:Chun-hian]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User es-2</title>
    <id>80</id>
    <revision>
      <id>350</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-16T21:40:22Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>TXiKi</ip>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #77E0E8 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#D0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#77E0E8;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''es-2'''&lt;/td&gt;   
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Este usuario puede contribuir con un nivel '''[[:Category:User es-2|intermedio]]''' de '''[[:Category:User es|español]]'''.[[Category:User es-2]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User es-1</title>
    <id>81</id>
    <revision>
      <id>353</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-09T18:49:28Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Adjusting color code of template for level 1 proficiency.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #C0C8FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#F0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#C0C8FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''es-1'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Este usuario puede contribuir con un nivel '''[[:Category:User es-1|básico]]''' de '''[[:Category:User es|español]]'''.[[Category:User es-1]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User it</title>
    <id>82</id>
    <revision>
      <id>360</id>
      <timestamp>2005-04-27T16:49:37Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Gatto Nero</ip>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <comment>added &quot;margin:1px;</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float: left; border: solid #6EF7A7 1px; margin:1px;&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#C5FCDC&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#6EF7A7;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''it'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Questo utente parla '''italiano come [[:Category:User it|lingua madre]]''' (come prima lingua o con capacit&amp;agrave; equivalenti).[[Category:User it|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User it-4</title>
    <id>83</id>
    <revision>
      <id>362</id>
      <timestamp>2006-04-29T13:40:51Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>SabineCretella</ip>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">{{User lang-4|it|Questo utente parla '''[[:Category:User it|italiano]]''' a livello di un '''[[:Category:User it-4|madrelingua]]'''.}}</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User it-3</title>
    <id>84</id>
    <revision>
      <id>367</id>
      <timestamp>2005-04-27T17:10:32Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Gatto Nero</ip>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <comment>added &quot;margin:1px;&quot;</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float: left; border: solid #99B3FF 1px; margin: 1px;&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#E0E8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#99B3FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''it-3'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Questo utente può contribuire con un '''[[:Category:User it|Italiano]]''' di livello '''[[:Category:User it-3|avanzato]]'''.[[Category:User it-3|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User it-2</title>
    <id>85</id>
    <revision>
      <id>373</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-09T14:12:52Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Adjusting color code of template for level 2 proficiency.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float: left; border: solid #77E0E8 1px; margin: 1px;&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#D0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#77E0E8;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''it-2'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Questo utente può contribuire con un '''[[:Category:User it|Italiano]]''' di livello '''[[:Category:User it-2|intermedio]]'''.[[Category:User it-2|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User it-1</title>
    <id>86</id>
    <revision>
      <id>380</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-09T19:39:12Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Adjusting color code of template for level 1 proficiency.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float: left; border: solid #C0C8FF 1px; margin: 1px;&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#F0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#C0C8FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''it-1'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Questo utente può contribuire con un '''[[:Category:User it|Italiano]]''' di livello '''[[:Category:User it-1|semplice]]'''.[[Category:User it-1|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User ru</title>
    <id>87</id>
    <revision>
      <id>384</id>
      <timestamp>2005-02-27T01:26:13Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Slavik IVANOV</ip>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #6EF7A7 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#C5FCDC&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#6EF7A7;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''ru'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Для этого участника '''русский язык''' является '''[[:Category:User ru|родным]]'''.[[Category:User ru|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User ru-4</title>
    <id>88</id>
    <revision>
      <id>386</id>
      <timestamp>2006-01-12T21:51:39Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>MaxSem</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>from ruwiki</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #6EF7A7 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#FFFF99&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#FFFF00;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''ru-4'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Этот участник владеет '''[[:Category:User ru|русским]]''' как '''[[:Category:User ru-4|родным]]'''.[[Category:User ru|{{PAGENAME}}]][[Category:User ru-4|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User ru-3</title>
    <id>89</id>
    <revision>
      <id>390</id>
      <timestamp>2006-01-12T21:50:01Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>MaxSem</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>MUCH better version from ruwiki</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #99B3FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#E0E8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#99B3FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''ru-3'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Этот участник '''[[:Category:User ru-3|свободно]]''' владеет '''[[:Category:User ru|русским языком]]'''. [[Category:User ru|{{PAGENAME}}]][[Category:User ru-3|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User ru-2</title>
    <id>90</id>
    <revision>
      <id>395</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-09T17:04:36Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Adjusting color code of template for level 2 proficiency.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #77E0E8 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#D0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#77E0E8;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''ru-2'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Этот участник '''[[:Category:User ru-2|хорошо]]''' знает '''[[:Category:User ru|русский язык]]'''. [[Category:User ru|{{PAGENAME}}]][[Category:User ru-2|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User ru-1</title>
    <id>91</id>
    <revision>
      <id>3751</id>
      <timestamp>2006-10-30T14:13:02Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>193.84.33.171</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>typo</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #C0C8FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#F0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#C0C8FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''ru-1'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Этот участник владеет '''[[:Category:User ru|русским языком]]''' на '''[[:Category:User ru-1|начальном уровне]]'''. [[Category:User ru-1|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User eo</title>
    <id>92</id>
    <revision>
      <id>403</id>
      <timestamp>2005-02-27T01:29:42Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Slavik IVANOV</ip>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #6EF7A7 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#C5FCDC&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#6EF7A7;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''eo'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Tiu uzanto estas '''[[:Category:User eo|denaska]] parolanto de Esperanto'''.[[Category:User eo|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User eo-4</title>
    <id>93</id>
    <revision>
      <id>407</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-21T23:26:48Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Shibo77</ip>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #CCCC00 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#FFFF99&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#FFFF00;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''eo-4'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Ĉi tiu uzanto parolas '''[[:Category:User eo|Esperanton]]''' '''[[:Category:User eo-4|preskaŭ kiel denaskulo]]'''. [[Category:User eo|{{PAGENAME}}]][[Category:User eo-4|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User eo-3</title>
    <id>94</id>
    <revision>
      <id>410</id>
      <timestamp>2005-02-27T01:31:54Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Slavik IVANOV</ip>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #99B3FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#E0E8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#99B3FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''eo-3'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Tiu &amp;#265;i uzanto havas '''[[:Category:User eo-3|bonegan]]''' scion de '''[[:Category:User eo|Esperanto]]''', kvankam ne estas denaska parolanto.[[Category:User eo-3|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User eo-2</title>
    <id>95</id>
    <revision>
      <id>413</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-09T16:38:33Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Adjusting color code of template for level 2 proficiency.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #77E0E8 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#D0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#77E0E8;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''eo-2'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Tiu &amp;#265;i uzanto havas jam '''[[:Category:User eo-2|bonan]]''' scion de '''[[:Category:User eo|Esperanto]]''', sed plu studas la lingvon.[[Category:User eo-2|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User eo-1</title>
    <id>96</id>
    <revision>
      <id>416</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-09T19:23:22Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Adjusting color code of template for level 1 proficiency.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #C0C8FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#F0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#C0C8FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''eo-1'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Tiu &amp;#265;i uzanto havas nur '''[[:Category:User eo-1|bazan]]''' scion de '''[[:Category:User eo|Esperanto]]'''.[[Category:User eo-1|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User pl</title>
    <id>97</id>
    <revision>
      <id>419</id>
      <timestamp>2005-03-06T05:48:39Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Kocio</ip>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <comment>en-&gt;pl =}</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #6EF7A7 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#C5FCDC&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#6EF7A7;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''pl'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;'''Polski jest [[:Category:User pl|językiem ojczystym]]''' tego użytkownika.[[Category:User pl|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User pl-3</title>
    <id>98</id>
    <revision>
      <id>421</id>
      <timestamp>2005-02-27T18:25:59Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Aphaia</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>from [[Commons:Template:User pl-3]] bit modefied</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #99B3FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#E0E8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#99B3FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''pl-3'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Ten użytkownik posługuje się  '''[[:Category:User pl|językiem polskim]]''' na poziomie '''[[:Category:User pl-3|zaawansowanym]]'''.[[Category:User pl-3]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User pl-2</title>
    <id>99</id>
    <revision>
      <id>424</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-09T14:14:32Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Adjusting color code of template for level 2 proficiency.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #77E0E8 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#D0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#77E0E8;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''pl-2'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Ten użytkownik posługuje się  '''[[:Category:User pl|językiem polskim]]''' na poziomie '''[[:Category:User pl-2|średniozaawansowanym]]'''.[[Category:User pl-2]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User pl-1</title>
    <id>100</id>
    <revision>
      <id>428</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-09T18:54:28Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Adjusting color code of template for level 1 proficiency.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #C0C8FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#F0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#C0C8FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''pl-1'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Ten użytkownik posługuje się  '''[[:Category:User pl|językiem polskim]]''' na poziomie '''[[:Category:User pl-1|podstawowym]]'''.[[Category:User pl-1]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User fr</title>
    <id>101</id>
    <revision>
      <id>432</id>
      <timestamp>2005-09-26T17:26:29Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Korg</username>
        <id>2</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>reformulation</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #6EF7A7 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#C5FCDC&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#6EF7A7;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''fr'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Cet utilisateur a pour '''[[:Category:User fr|langue maternelle]]''' le '''[[:Category:FR|français]]'''.[[Category:User fr|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User fr-4</title>
    <id>102</id>
    <revision>
      <id>438</id>
      <timestamp>2005-11-19T08:36:24Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Sajasaze</ip>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #99B3FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#E0E8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#99B3FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''fr-4'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Cette personne peut contribuer avec un niveau '''[[:Category:User fr-4|très avancé]]''' de '''[[:Category:User fr|français]]'''.[[Category:User fr-4|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User fr-3</title>
    <id>103</id>
    <revision>
      <id>440</id>
      <timestamp>2005-02-23T17:01:14Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Aphaia</ip>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <comment>copy from [[Commons:Template:User fr-2]] a bit modefied</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #99B3FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#E0E8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#99B3FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''fr-3'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Cette personne peut contribuer avec un niveau '''[[:Category:User fr-3|avancé]]''' de '''[[:Category:User fr|français]]'''.[[Category:User fr-3|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User fr-2</title>
    <id>104</id>
    <revision>
      <id>443</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-09T14:12:03Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Adjusting color code of template for level 2 proficiency.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #77E0E8 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#D0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#77E0E8;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''fr-2'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Cette personne peut contribuer avec un niveau '''[[:Category:User fr-2|intermédiaire]]''' de '''[[:Category:User fr|français]]'''.[[Category:User fr-2|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User fr-1</title>
    <id>105</id>
    <revision>
      <id>446</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-09T19:27:51Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Adjusting color code of template for level 1 proficiency.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #C0C8FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#F0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#C0C8FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''fr-1'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Cette personne peut contribuer avec un niveau '''[[:Category:User fr-1|élémentaire]]''' de '''[[:Category:User fr|français]]'''.[[Category:User fr-1|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User uk</title>
    <id>106</id>
    <revision>
      <id>448</id>
      <timestamp>2005-03-07T05:48:49Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Inetd</ip>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #6EF7A7 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#C5FCDC&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#6EF7A7;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''uk'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Для цього користувача '''українська мова''' є '''[[:Category:User uk|рідною]]'''.[[Category:User uk|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User uk-3</title>
    <id>107</id>
    <revision>
      <id>452</id>
      <timestamp>2005-03-07T06:35:33Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Inetd</ip>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #99B3FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#E0E8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#99B3FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''uk-3'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;Цей користувач володіє '''[[:Category:User uk|українською]]''' мовою '''[[:Category:User uk-3|високого]]''' рівня.&lt;/small&gt;[[Category:User uk-3|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User uk-2</title>
    <id>108</id>
    <revision>
      <id>455</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-09T17:11:51Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Adjusting color code of template for level 2 proficiency.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #77E0E8 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#D0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#77E0E8;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''uk-2'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:7.75pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Цей користувач володіє '''[[:Category:User uk|українською]]''' мовою на '''[[:Category:User uk-2|середньому]]''' рівні.[[Category:User uk-2|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User uk-1</title>
    <id>109</id>
    <revision>
      <id>458</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-09T19:04:11Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Adjusting color code of template for level 1 proficiency.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #C0C8FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:250px;background:#F0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#C0C8FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''uk-1'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;Цей користувач володіє '''[[:Category:User uk|українською]]''' мовою на '''[[:Category:User uk-1|початковому]]''' рівні.&lt;/small&gt;
[[Category:User uk-1|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User ja</title>
    <id>110</id>
    <revision>
      <id>462</id>
      <timestamp>2005-02-23T20:32:44Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Kahusi</ip>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <comment>de -&gt; ja</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #6EF7A7 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#C5FCDC&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#6EF7A7;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''ja'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;この利用者は'''[[:Category:JA|日本語]]を[[:Category:User ja|母語]]としています'''。[[Category:User ja|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User ja-3</title>
    <id>111</id>
    <revision>
      <id>465</id>
      <timestamp>2005-02-23T17:19:31Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Aphaia</ip>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <comment>-cat</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #99B3FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#E0E8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#99B3FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''ja-3'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;この利用者は'''[[:Category:User ja-3|流暢]]'''な'''[[:Category:User ja|日本語]]'''を話します。
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
[[Category:User ja-3|{{PAGENAME}}]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User ja-2</title>
    <id>112</id>
    <revision>
      <id>468</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-09T16:49:48Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Adjusting color code of template for level 2 proficiency.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #77E0E8 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#D0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#77E0E8;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''ja-2'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;この利用者は'''[[:Category:User ja|日本語]]'''を'''[[:Category:User ja-2|ある程度]]'''話します。
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;[[Category:User ja-2|{{PAGENAME}}]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User ja-1</title>
    <id>113</id>
    <revision>
      <id>471</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-09T18:57:01Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Adjusting color code of template for level 1 proficiency.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #C0C8FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#F0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#C0C8FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''ja-1'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;この利用者は'''[[:Category:User ja-1|簡単]]'''な'''[[:Category:User ja|日本語]]'''を話します。[[Category:User ja-1|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User zh</title>
    <id>114</id>
    <revision>
      <id>480</id>
      <timestamp>2006-07-23T04:04:41Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Sl</ip>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #6EF7A7 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#C5FCDC&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#6EF7A7;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''zh'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;这位用户的'''[[:Category:User zh-N|母语]]'''是'''[[:Category:User zh|中文]]'''。&lt;br /&gt;這位用戶的'''[[:Category:User zh-N|母語]]'''是'''[[:Category:User zh|中文]]'''。[[Category:User zh|{{PAGENAME}}]][[Category:User zh-N|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User zh-3</title>
    <id>115</id>
    <revision>
      <id>485</id>
      <timestamp>2005-03-26T21:35:55Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Node ue</ip>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #99B3FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#E0E8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#99B3FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''zh-3'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;这个用户能够使用'''[[:Category:User zh-3|熟练]]'''的'''[[:Category:User zh|中文]]'''写作。&lt;br /&gt;這個用戶能夠使用'''[[:Category:User zh-3|熟練]]'''的'''[[:Category:User zh|中文]]'''寫作。[[Category:User zh-3|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User zh-2</title>
    <id>116</id>
    <revision>
      <id>491</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-09T14:13:42Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Adjusting color code of template for level 2 proficiency.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #77E0E8 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#D0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#77E0E8;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''zh-2'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;这个用户能够使用'''[[:Category:User zh-2|中等]]'''水平的'''[[:Category:User zh|中文]]'''写作。&lt;br /&gt;這個用戶能夠使用'''[[:Category:User zh-2|中等]]'''水平的'''[[:Category:User zh|中文]]'''寫作。[[Category:User zh-2|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User zh-1</title>
    <id>117</id>
    <revision>
      <id>497</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-09T18:55:19Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Adjusting color code of template for level 1 proficiency.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #C0C8FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#F0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#C0C8FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''zh-1'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;这个用户能够使用'''[[:Category:User zh-1|基础]]'''水平的'''[[:Category:User zh|中文]]'''写作。&lt;br /&gt;這個用戶能夠使用'''[[:Category:User zh-1|基礎]]'''水平的'''[[:Category:User zh|中文]]'''寫作。[[Category:User zh-1|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>User:Chun-hian</title>
    <id>118</id>
    <revision>
      <id>500</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-26T20:44:56Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Chun-hian</username>
        <id>27</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">*[[M:User:Chun-hian]]
*[[Commons:User:Chun-hian]]
*[[Incubator:User:Chun-hian]]
*[[de:User:Chun-hian]]
*[[en:User:Chun-hian]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Wikiversity:Request custodian action</title>
    <id>119</id>
    <revision>
      <id>2445</id>
      <timestamp>2006-09-02T09:29:07Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Guillom</username>
        <id>4</id>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <comment>[[Image:Broom icon.png|right|Custodians' tool]]</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Image:Broom icon.png|right|Custodians' tool]]

Wikiversity '''Custodians''' (also known as administrators or sysops), are Wikiversity users who have access to technical features that help with maintenance of Wikiversity. Those features include protecting and deleting pages, blocking other editors, and undoing these actions as well.

==New requests==
''Put new requests here''


[[Category:Wikiversity]]</text>
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  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Wikiversity:Separate projects</title>
    <id>120</id>
    <revision>
      <id>4576</id>
      <timestamp>2006-12-01T11:21:32Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Guillom</username>
        <id>4</id>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <comment>'''[[:fr:|French]]'''</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;background: #F9F9F9; font-size: 100%; border: 1px solid #E9E9E9; margin: 0 0 1em 0; padding: 0.3em 1em; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
'''[[:de:|Deutsch]]''' |
'''[[:en:|English]]''' |
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      <comment>====December 2006====
{{announce/local|1|[[:fr:Accueil|French Wikiversity]] launched.}}</comment>
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''This page contains announcements about '''[[Main Page|Wikiversity Beta]]''' and '''[[Wikiversity:Separate projects|separate projects]]'''. See also Meta [[m:Goings-on|Goings-on]].''


;Available templates:{{tl|announce/talk}} · {{tl|announce/beta}} · {{tl|announce/local}}

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==Announcements==
&lt;!--- Announces ----------------------&gt;
====December 2006====
{{announce/local|1|[[:fr:Accueil|French Wikiversity]] launched.}}
====November 2006====
{{announce|Wikimedia-logo.svg|23|There is a new set of [[meta:Meta:Language proposal policy|policies]] for proposing new languages on meta.}}
{{announce/talk|18|[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiversity/logo Colour change nomination for the Wikiversity Logo on Meta]}}
{{announce/local|29|[[Translation]] department started}}
====October 2006====
{{announce/local|16|[[:es:Portada|Spanish Wikiversity]] launched.}}
====September 2006====
{{announce/beta|28| [[Wikiversity_talk:A_proposal_for_european_project|A proposal for european project]] for european wikiversities has been proposed.}}
{{announce/beta|19| [[Wikiversity:A proposal of language learning policy|A draft for a language learning policy]] for all Wikiversity projects has been proposed.}}
{{announce/beta|7| [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiversity/logo A poll for the wikiversity logo] started.}}
{{announce/beta|3| [[Wikiversity:Scope of research/En|Scope of research]]; multi-language research policy discussion started.}}
====August 2006====
{{announce/beta|29| [[Wikiversity:Language select/En|Language selection system]] implemented on Beta.}}
{{announce/beta|26| Babel templates available, [[Wikiversity:Request custodian action|request for yours if not]].}}
{{announce/talk|26|[[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/En|Multilingual discussions]] system proposal.}}
{{announce/beta|24| '''[[Main Page|Beta Wikiversity]] launched.'''}}
{{announce/talk|23|[[m:Wikiversity/logo|Logo contest]] for Wikiversity started on meta.}}
{{announce/talk|22|Help design the [[m:Www.wikiversity.org template|www Wikiversity portal]].}}
{{announce/local|15| [[:en:Main Page|English Wikiversity]] launched.}}
&lt;div style=&quot;text-align:center;&quot;&gt;{{edit|Wikiversity:Announcements/En}} · &lt;small&gt;[http://beta.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=Wikiversity:Announcements/En&amp;action=watch watch]&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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[[Category:Wikiversity]]
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      <comment>====Decembre 2006====
{{announce/local|1|Ouverture de [[:fr:Accueil|Wikiversity francophone]].}}</comment>
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''Cette page rassemble des informations sur '''[[Accueil|Wikiversity Beta]]''' et les '''[[Wikiversity:Separate projects|projets séparés]]'''. Voir aussi les [[m:Goings-on|informations]]. sur Meta''


;Modèles disponibles:
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====Decembre 2006====
{{announce/local|1|Ouverture de [[:fr:Accueil|Wikiversity francophone]].}}
====Novembre 2006====
{{announce/talk|18|[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiversity/logo Vote en cours sur Meta pour modifier la couleur du logo]}}
====Octobre 2006====
{{announce/local|16|Ouverture de [[:es:Portada|Wikiversity hispanophone]].}}
====Septembre 2006====
{{announce/beta|7|Un [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiversity/logo vote] sur le logo de wikiversity a commencé.}}
{{announce/beta|3| [[Wikiversity:Scope of research|But de la recherche]]; la discussion de politique de recherches de multi-langue a commencé.}}
====Août 2006====
{{announce/beta|29| [[Wikiversity:Language select/Fr|Système d'affichage selon la langue]] implementé sur Beta.}}
{{announce/beta|26|Les modèles Babel sont disponibles, sinon [[Wikiversity:Request custodian action|demandez le vôtre]].}}
{{announce/talk|26|Proposition d'un système de [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/Fr|discussion multilingue]].}}
{{announce/beta|24|'''Ouverture de [[Main Page|Wikiversity Beta]].'''}}
{{announce/talk|23|[[m:Wikiversity/logo|Concours de logo]] pour  Wikiversity sur Meta.}}
{{announce/talk|22|Participez à la conception du [[m:Www.wikiversity.org template|portail www wikiversity org]].}}
{{announce/local|15| Ouverture de [[:en:Main Page|Wikiversity anglophone]].}}
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''Esta página possui anúncios relacionados à '''[[Página principal|Wikiversidade Beta]]''' e '''[[Wikiversity:Separate projects|edições independentes]]'''. Veja também, no Meta, [[m:Goings-on|Goings-on]].''


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====Dezembro 2006====
{{announce/local|1|Criada a [[:fr:Accueil|Wikiversidade em francês]].}}
====Novembro 2006====
{{announce/talk|18|[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiversity/logo Indicações de cores diferentes para o logotipo da Wikiversidade no Meta]}}

====Outubro 2006====
{{announce/local|16|Criada a [[:es:Portada|Wikiversidade em espanhol]].}}

====Setembro 2006====
{{announce/beta|28|Foi apresentada [[Wikiversity_talk:A_proposal_for_european_project|proposta de projecto europeu]] para Wikiversidades na Europa.}}
{{announce/beta|19|Foi proposto um [[Wikiversity:A proposal of language learning policy|esboço de política de aprendizagem linguística]] para todos os projectos.}}
{{announce/beta|7|Começou a [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiversity/ votação] para o logotipo da Wikiversidade.}}
{{announce/beta|3| [[Wikiversity:Scope of research|Escopo das pesquisas]]; Começou a discussão multilingue sobre a política de pesquisas.}}
====Agosto de 2006====
{{announce/beta|26| Predefinições Babel disponíveis, [[Wikiversity:Request custodian action|pedidos de custódia]].}}
{{announce/talk|26|Proposta de um sistema para [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism|discussões multilingües]]}}
{{announce/beta|24| '''[[Página principal|Wikiversidade Beta]] criada.'''}}
{{announce/talk|23|[[m:Wikiversity/logo|Propostas de logotipos]] para a Wikiversidade iniciada no Meta}}
{{announce/talk|22|Ajude a elaborar o portal [[:m:Www.wikiversity.org template|www.Wikiversity.org]].}}
{{announce/local|15|Criada a [[:en:|Wikiversidade em inglês]].}}
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      <comment>+cat</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">''Esta categoria contem predefinições em língua portuguesa.''
[[Category:PT]] [[category:Wikiversidade]]</text>
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      <contributor>
        <username>Guillom</username>
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      <comment>''Cette catégorie rassemble les modèles rédigés en français.''[[Category:FR]]</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">''Cette catégorie rassemble les modèles rédigés en français.''

[[Category:FR]]</text>
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    <id>137</id>
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      <timestamp>2006-08-27T08:34:49Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Guillom</username>
        <id>4</id>
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      <minor />
      <comment>good idea</comment>
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      <contributor>
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      <comment>better : diff (not in english language)</comment>
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      <comment>moved Help up</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">* navigation
** mainpage|mainpage
** helppage|help
** portal-url|portal
** recentchanges-url|recentchanges
** randompage-url|randompage
** sitesupport-url|sitesupport</text>
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    <title>Wikiversity talk:Multilingualism/Fr</title>
    <id>140</id>
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      <contributor>
        <ip>82.127.64.87</ip>
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      <comment>hop</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">Alors, la page est bonne, et le principe aussi, par contre il faudra, selon moi, ne créer une sous langue QUE si il y a au moins deux ou trois volontaires pour tout traduire, sinon on risque de se retrouver petit à petit à répondre tous sur la partie anglophone. Il faudra non seuleument que ce soit organisé, mais un minimum cadré... par qui et comment je ne sais pas, mais je pense que en comité restraint ca sera viable mais dès que des gens viendront se greffer la dessus et auront la flemme de faire le cheminement prévu, ca risque de partir en sucette [[User:Schiste|Schiste]] 09:32, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Le probleme reste presque le meme mais en moins évidents, cela dépendra en fait des tout premiers utilisateurs. Si dès le début nous jouons le jeux, meme si nous somme tous anglophiles, ca pourrait marcher, mais il faut bien comprendre que ca ne tient qu'a un fil que tout ca capote, meme si je trouve cette idée toujours aussi géniale. Le petit plus c'est que de cadré ca aussi clairement ca permet de mettre un guide... wait and see... pardons attendons et voyons. [[User:82.127.64.87|82.127.64.87]] 01:15, 28 August 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <timestamp>2006-08-27T10:43:37Z</timestamp>
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        <id>31</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Vidu [http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipediisto:ArnoLagrange Arno Lagrange] sur la [http://eo.wikipedia.org/ vikipedio].</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">Vidu [http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipediisto:ArnoLagrange Arno Lagrange] sur la [http://eo.wikipedia.org/ vikipedio].</text>
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      <comment>rem multilingual category</comment>
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| style=&quot;background-color: {{{color|}}}; text-align: center&quot; colspan=&quot;10&quot; | {{{footer|}}}
|}
&lt;/includeonly&gt;&lt;noinclude&gt;
{{Babel|header=My Languages|footer=Wikiversity Babel|color=yellow|en|fr-1|de-2|ru-3}}
On your Wikiversity user page, your Babel box is for saying what languages you know. To add a babel box onto your user page, insert &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{babel}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt; and add language codes.

Inside the babel template, after a vertical line, a language code on its own outputs that you are a native speaker of that language (eg: &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{babel|en}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;). If you add -1 on the end of the language code, it outputs that you are a basic speaker, -2 is intermediate, -3 is advanced and -4 is near-native. You can add up to 1000 languages, separated by a vertical line |.

For example, to say you are a native speaker of English, can speak advanced German and can also speak basic French, use &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{babel|en|de-3|fr-1}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;.

To specify a custom header, footer, or color add the parameters &lt;code&gt;header=''HEADER''&lt;/code&gt; (default:  '''[[Template:Babel|Babel]]'''), &lt;code&gt;footer=''FOOTER''&lt;/code&gt; (default: blank), and/or &lt;code&gt;color=''COLOR''&lt;/code&gt; (default: white). You may also use &lt;code&gt;|align=left&lt;/code&gt; to display the babel box on the left side of the screen rather than the default right.

'''Example:'''
The following example produces the box on the right:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{Babel|header=My Languages|footer=Wikiversity Babel|color=yellow|en|fr-1|de-2|ru-3}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;

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    <id>143</id>
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      <contributor>
        <username>555</username>
        <id>9</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Redirecting to [[Wikiversity:About]]</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">#REDIRECT [[Wikiversity:About]]</text>
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  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Wikiversity:Wikiversidade</title>
    <id>144</id>
    <revision>
      <id>4125</id>
      <timestamp>2006-11-18T02:27:56Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Slade</username>
        <id>20</id>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Image:Wikiversity-logo.svg|thumb|230px|&lt;font color=navy face=Tahoma&gt;'''&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;center&gt;Wikiversidade&lt;center&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]]

Esta página serve como o escopo de como será a '''Wikiversidade lusófona'''. Traduzido de [[Wikiversité]].

*[[Help:FAQ/Pt]]
*[[Wikiversity:Announcements/Pt]]

&lt;div style=&quot;background-color: #fcfcfc; margin: 0; border: 1px solid #DEDED3; padding: 7px 7px 0px 7px; -moz-border-radius:5px&quot;&gt;
== Preliminares ==

* Explicar em quê consiste o projeto Wikiversidade (ver [[/Proposta/]]).
* Preparar um chamado que será espalhado nos projetos correlatos, com o intuito de recrutar interessados.
* Definir um glossário de termos a utilizar e a evitar.
::: * Definir um esquema interno (ver [[/Divisões/]]).
&lt;/div&gt;

== Preparação ==

*Pedir a criação do projeto no bugzilla.
*Algumas fontes:
** pt.wikibooks ([http://pt.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikiversidade] e [http://pt.wikibooks.org/wiki/Categoria:Wikiversidade])
** meta.wikimedia
** en.wikiversity
** beta.wikiversity
** pt.wikipedia (para as páginas de ajuda)
*Ativar o transwiki

== A instaurar rapidamente ==

*Página de descrição do projeto
*WV (v:) ao invés de WP (w:) ou WB (b:)
*Esplanada
*Página de proposição de concierges (ou jardiniers?)
*Páginas de pedidos, de ajuda, e para os não-sysops
*Escrita das páginas de ajuda
*Ligações com as páginas principais de outros projetos lusófonos (e interwikis para as outras Wikiversidades)
*Regras básicas

[[category:Wikiversidade]]</text>
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      <timestamp>2006-10-11T04:55:01Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Hillgentleman</username>
        <id>30</id>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;includeonly&gt;{{multilingual}}&lt;/includeonly&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;multilingual&quot;&gt;
{{ls|de|Hallo, ich bin zeitweiliger [[wikipedia:de:Wikipedia:Administratoren|Hausmeister]] auf Beta. Fragen Sie mich, wenn Sie eine [[Wikiversity:Request custodian action|Wartungsaufgabe]] durchführen wollen.
}}

{{ls|en|Hello. I am a temporary [[:en:Wikiversity:Custodians|custodian]] on Beta. Tell me if you need [[Wikiversity:Request custodian action|sysop action]].
}}

{{ls|fr|Bonjour. Je suis [[wikipedia:fr:Wikipédia:Administrateur|concierge]] temporaire sur Beta, demandez-moi si vous avez besoin d'effectuer une [[Wikiversity:Request custodian action|tâche de maintenance]].
}}

{{ls|no|Hei. Jeg er en midlertidig [[:en:Wikiversity:Custodian|administrator]] på Beta. Kontakt meg dersom du trenger [[Wikiversity:Request custodian action|administratorhjelp]].}}

{{ls|ksh|Halo, esh ben enne [[wikipedia:pt:Wikipedia:Administradores|Huusmëijster]] op Zigg_op Beta. [[Wikiversity:Request custodian action|Schriif mer]], wänn_De jät fö_mesh ze donn häß.
}}

{{ls|pt|Olá, eu sou um [[wikipedia:pt:Wikipedia:Administradores|administrador]] temporário no Beta. Me procure caso necessite de [[Wikiversity:Request custodian action|uma ação de sysop]].
}}
{{ls|zh|你好. 我是 Beta 上一臨時[[:en:Wikiversity:Custodians|管理員]]. 若您需要[[Wikiversity:Request custodian action|管理員幫助]],請通知我.}}
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      <comment>{{Copyright by Wikimedia}}</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">SVG version of [[:Image:Beta.png]].
{{Copyright by Wikimedia}}</text>
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      <minor />
      <comment>create user CSS page</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">// &lt;pre&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;
a {text-decoration: none}
#fundraising {display: none}
#editpage-specialchars {display: none}
#editpage-copywarn2 {display: none}
#copyright {display: none}
#lastmod {display: none}
#longpagewarning {display: none}
#editpage-copywarn {visibility: hidden}
#catcsdhide {display: none}
#catcsdhide2 {display: none}
#siteSub {display: none}
#sitenotice {display: none}
#siteNotice {display: none}
#wikimania2006 {display: none}

#bodyContent pre {border: 1px solid #aaa}
#p-cactions li.selected {border-color: #AAAAAA}
li#pt-userpage {background: none}

#footer {display: none}
// &lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">{| style=&quot;width:98%; height:48px; background:#E0E0FF; border:#666699 solid 1px; text-align:center; text-valign:center&quot;
| '''&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gurch Click here for my Wikipedia user page]&lt;/span&gt;'''
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| style=&quot;line-height: 0.5em&quot; | &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you leave a message here I probably won't notice it.&lt;br&gt;
'''&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gurch Click here for my Wikipedia user talk page]&lt;/span&gt;'''
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==Was ist Wikiversity beta?==

Dieses Projekt dient als globale Plattform für die Koordination von Wikiversity-Projekten in verschiedenen Sprachen. Diese '''[[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/De|mehrsprachige]]''' Koordination soll die [[Wikiversity:Mission|Zielvorstellungen]] und die allgemeinen [[#Richtlinien|Richtlinien]] des Projektes (etwa in Bezug auf eigenständige Forschung) weiterentwickeln.

Darüberhinaus dient Wikiversity beta – wie eine Art Brutkasten – der Vorbereitung neuer Sprachversionen. Bislang wurden die [[:en:Wikiversity:Main Page|englische]] und die [[:de:Hauptseite|deutsche]] Wikiversity als [[Wikiversity:separate projects|eigenständige Projekte]] gestartet.

'''Wenn Du eine neue Wikiversity gründen möchtest''', solltest Du dazu über mindestens zehn Mitarbeiter verfügen, die sich aktiv an Deiner neuen Sprachversion beteiligen wollen. Sobald dies der Fall ist, kannst Du in dem Meta-Wiki der Wikimedia Foundation unter [[m:Requests for new languages#Requests for Wikiversity Languages|Requests for Wikiversity Languages]] eine Anfrage auf Gründung der neuen Sprachversion stellen. Zwischenzeitlich solltest Du die Hauptseite Deines Projektes auch in der Vorlage [[Template:Main page]] hinzufügen.

==Richtlinien==
''Bitte hilf mit, unsere internationalen, für alle Wikiversity Projekte geltenden Richtlinien zu übersetzen und weiterzuentwickeln.''
*[[Wikiversity:Scope of research/De|Scope of research]] – soll in Wikiversity Forschung erlaubt sein? 
*[[Wikiversity:Research guidelines/De|Research guidelines]] – welche Regeln sind notwendig, damit Forschungsprojekte in Wikiversity dem akademischen Anspruch genügen?

==In Vorbereitung==
*Hilf mit beim Aufbau unseres mehrsprachigen Portals (http://www.wikiversity.org) auf [[m:Talk:Www.wikiversity.org template|Meta]]
*Mach mit beim laufenden [[m:Wikiversity/logo|Logo-Wettbewerb]] für Wikiversity.

==Schwesterprojekte==
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Anbieter der Wikiversity ist die [[wikimedia:Home|Wikimedia Foundation]], eine gemeinnützige Stiftung, die auch eine Reihe anderer Projekte zum Aufbau [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Copyrights|freier Inhalte]] [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Multilingual coordination|in verschiedenen Sprachversionen]] betreibt:

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'''Frank Schulenburg''' was born in Uelzen, a small town in Lower Saxony, Germany. Today he lives at Göttingen, where he writes his doctoral thesis in economic history. He had been a [http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Frank_Schulenburg volunteer editor at the  German Wikipedia] since february 2005 and he quickly got involved with other projects as well. He was made an administrator on the German Wikipedia in October 2005 and on the German Wikisource in July 2006. Since february 2006 he is a board member of Wikimedia Germany. In spring 2006 he organized the exhibition &quot;[http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:F%C3%BCnf_Jahre_Wikipedia 5 years of Wikipedia – a free encyclopedia conquers the web]&quot;. Furthermore he was the leading organizer of the first [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Academy_2006 Wikipedia Academy], a conference for academics and students held June 2006 in Göttingen. Since May 2006 he prepares the [http://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Drei_Register_Arithmetischer_ahnfeng_zur_Practic online-edition of a manuscript] from the late 16th century on Wikisource, which [http://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Pressemitteilungen/Rechenbuchprojekt has been digitized] on his initiative. 
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==3 September 2006 – Report from the English language Wikiversity==
:(You can watch a [http://www.archive.org/details/WikiversityReports1 podcast] version of this report; see [[:en:Introduction to GarageBand#Sample podcast|detailed instructions]])
*The [[:en:Main Page|English language Wikiversity]] started on 15 August 2006 with a six-month beta phase.
*The [[:en:Wikiversity:Approved Wikiversity project proposal|Wikiversity project proposal]] was approved by the [http://wikimediafoundation.org Wikimedia Foundation] Board of Trustees and announced at  [http://wikimania2006.wikimedia.org/wiki/Opening_Plenary_%28transcript%29#Wikiversity_.2826:35.29 Wikimania 2006].
*Wikiversity had previously been under development at [http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikiversity Wikibooks]. Many of the Wikiversity webpages from Wikibooks (example: [http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Wikiversity_Schools Wikiversity Schools]) have been imported to the new Wikiversity website (example: [[:en:Wikiversity:Schools|Wikiversity Schools]]).
*A few policies have already been adopted including [[:en:Wikiversity:Assume Good Faith|Assume Good Faith]], [[:en:Wikiversity:Civility|Civility]] and [[:en:Wikiversity:Be bold|Be bold]]. Some ideas have been produced for how to allow original research at Wikiversity (see: [[:en:Wikiversity:Review board|Review board]]), but discussion of research policy will take place at the Wikiversity beta website (see: [[Wikiversity:Scope of research|Scope of research]]). Other proposed policies include:
** Using the term &quot;[[:en:Wikiversity:Custodianship|custodian]]&quot; to refer to Wikiversity sysops.
** [[:en:Wikiversity:Disclosures|Disclosures]], a modification to the traditional Wikimedia [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/NPOV NPOV] policy which would allow Wikiversity to have scholarly webpages that adopt a biased point of view.
** A [[:en:Wikiversity:Scholarly ethics|Scholarly ethics]] policy that would define high standards of Wikiversity scholarship. It is proposed that high standards of scholarly ethics can guide Wikiversity participants who edit webpages that adopt a biased point of view. The standards of scholarly ethics can also be applied to original research at Wikiversity.
*The Board of Trustees [[:en:Wikiversity:Original proposal#Evaluation of the old proposal|instructed]] that the Wikiversity project proposal not include conventional courses. To replace courses, the [[:en:Portal:Education|Wikiversity e-learning model]] includes the idea of [[:en:Wikiversity:Learning#Learning groups|learning groups]] that collaborate on [[:en:Portal:Learning Projects|learning projects]].

== 28 August 2006 – Report from the German language Wikiversity ==
As Rayc asked how the two wikiversities compare, I would like to give you some information about the things going on at de.wikiversity:
* We completely restarted the project on August, 26 with a team of three experienced users coming from the German wikimedia community. During the last four days more than thirty new user accounts were created. Most of them by wikimedians already active in the German wikipedia and wikisource projects.
* Actually the [[:de:Fachbereich Geschichte|department of history]] is the most active of our ten departments (in German: ''Fachbereiche''). Somewhat away from conventional universities we invited users to create new departments like &quot;Department of virtual construction of knowledge&quot; (''Fachbereich Virtuelle Wissenskonstruktion''), founded on the German Wikiversity by a professor at the university of Eichstätt-Ingolstadt in Bavaria.
* We have two research projects, one dealing with the edition of a manuscript from the 16th century (which is being transcribed on the German Wikisource), and another one which is underway to do some oral history about the daily life in the city of Hamburg during the last year of World War II (interviews with contemporary witnesses).
* Yesterday a course on palaeography (in close cooperation with the German wikisource) started. Most of the course participants are Wikisourcians who want to improve their ability to read old manuscripts.
So far for today. Warm greetings from the German Wikiversity --[[User:Frank Schulenburg|Frank Schulenburg]] 11:33, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

== September 5th 2006 Spanish Wikiversity==
As some of you may know, the Spanish Wikiversity was very active before the project was officially approved by the Board, especially at the end of 2004. You may check [http://es.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Especial%3AAllpages&amp;from=&amp;namespace=102 in this link] that there around 200 or 300 pages in the namespace &quot;Wikiversidad&quot; of Spanish Wikibooks. Specially active was a group on Chemistry. Unfortunately, the uncertain future of the project and the long time it took to get approved, made the most active members to go away, and now Spanish Wikiversity has no activity. Only irregular small editions. 

I'm trying to get in contact with those who participated but is not easy: many of them were not or are not anymore in any other Wikimedia project, and there is no way to send them emails.

Due to the huge amount of Wikiversity pages in the Spanish domain of Wikibooks, it is not very encouraging to bring all that to v:Beta if soon afterwards we have to move it again to v:es: It doesn´t really make much sense.

That's why Spanish Wikiversity content will stay in b:es, (unless somebody wants to work hard on the moving).

And that was all. If someone is interested on relaunching the Spanish project, I would like to help you. Please, contact me [http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario_Discusi%C3%B3n:Javier_Carro in this link], thanks.

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{{ls|nl|Deze browser pagina gaat over ''{{{nl}}}''. Je kunt op deze pagina browsen naar de verscheidene talen. Hier kun je de aangegeven talen bekijken en helpen om een [[Wikiversity:Meertaligheid/Nl|discussie tussen meerdere talen]] mogelijk te maken door teksten te vertalen.
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      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Wikiversity:Multilingualism}}
Wikiversity Beta is a global platform aiming at coordinating Wikiversity projects in several languages. In order to benefit from the input of its many members (not only English-writers), Beta has to set up an efficient multilingual discussion system.

== Existing system ==

Multilingualism is often a one-way concept: first there is a source page in English language, then people translate it to make it understandable to non-English-readers. The main drawback of this system is non-English-writers cannot take part in discussion, all they can do is passively read what is translated. 

As the issues discussed on Beta concern Wikiversities in all languages, it is necessary that participants from all projects can give their opinions.

== Proposed system ==

''Discussion about this proposal is welcome on the talk page.''

&lt;div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;width:50%;display:block;float:left;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion1.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''1''' - Participants starting a new discussion write a short summary of what it is about and add a link on the coordination motherpage.]]
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;width:49%;display:block;float:right;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion2.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''2''' - Translators translate the summary to other languages, and add the links on the coordination page.]]
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;width:50%;display:block;float:left;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion3.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''3''' - On each language talk pages, people discuss, give opinions and ask questions. They write a short paragraph summing up this and write it on their language subpage with a new ID number. On the coordination motherpage, they add the ID number and the link to their summary.]]
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;width:49%;display:block;float:right;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion4.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''4''' - Translators regularly check the coordination page and reflect the new summary on their page (with the same ID). They add links from the motherpage.]]
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;width:50%;display:block;float:left;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion5.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''5''' - Discussion goes on. Each new summary is given a new unique ID number which identifies it on the coordination page and on all language subpages.]]
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;

=== Guidelines to make this system work ===
* '''The shorter, the better.''' Conciseness is the key to efficient multilingual discussions. Long paragraphs will probably not be translated, nor reflected on other language pages. That means the possible ideas / criticisms / questions will not get any attention.
* '''Announce :''' when a discussion starts, it should be announced on [[Wikiversity:Announcements/En]].
* '''Paragraph numbering:''' Paragraphs should be numbered to be easily identified: first summary is #1, new summaries follow. This means participants have to check the other pages before adding a paragraph on their page to make sure their page is up-to-date and avoid number conflicts.

=== Benefits of this system ===
* Everybody can join and take part to the discussion.
* Participants are required to be brief and to focus on key topics.
* Consensus is likely to occur between all participants whatever their language is.

=== Drawbacks ===
* This system relies on the number of translators and their efficiency.

== Translation ==

If you are proficient in more than one language, add yourself to the translators list at '''[[Wikiversity:Translation]]'''.

==See also==

* [[Wikiversity:Language select/En]]


&lt;!--== Internal Links ==
* [[Meta:Babel templates|Language skill templates]] (Babel templates): you can indicate your linguistic skills on your user page.

* Interlanguage links on [[Meta:Interlanguage links|Meta]] and [[w:en:Wikipedia:Interlanguage links|en:Wikipedia]], [[Talk:Interwiki bot]] (updater of links) 
* Summary of the various-language Wikipedias:  '''[[Wikipedia language overviews]]''' (needs contribution!) | [[Complete list of wikimedia projects]]

* Multilingual coordination: [[Interlingual coordination]]([[Interlingual_coordination#Links_relevant_to_coordination|links]]) | [[w:en:Wikipedia:Multilingual coordination|en:Multiling Coordination]] (issues and list of WPs), [[w:en:Wikipedia:Local Embassy|Local Embassies]] for helping visitors get used to your local WP
* Multilingual style: [[Thoughts_on_Multilingualism]] (essay by Jmabel (ca. 12/2003) on  naming objects, pages, people originally from other langs). 
* [[Meta:Conventions for multilingualism]]

* Translation: [[w:en:Wikipedia:Translation into English|...into English]] - fab project (by Jmabel) to request/fill transl requests (also [[de:Wikipedia:Übersetzungen|...into German]], [[fr:Wikipédia:Traductions en cours|...into French]], [[ja:Wikipedia:翻訳依頼]], [[ro:Wikipedia:Articole de tradus|...into Romanian]], [[zh-cn:Wikipedia:待翻译文章|...into Simplified Chinese]], and [[zh:Wikipedia:待翻譯文章|...into Traditional Chinese]]), and [[w:en:Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English|en:Pages needing translation]] - garbled pages on en: needing to be salvaged.
** Tools: [[w:en:Wikipedia:Language recognition chart|Lang recognition chart]] for identifying unfamiliar charactersets.
** Translation Group in [http://wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikiversity Wikiversity]: &amp;nbsp;[http://wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikiversidad:Área_de_Traducción Español] | [http://wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikiversity%3ATranslation_practice_course English]--&gt;

[[Category:Multilingualism|En]]
[[Category:EN]]</text>
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  </page>
  <page>
    <title>User:Dcljr</title>
    <id>183</id>
    <revision>
      <id>656</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T06:25:01Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Dcljr</username>
        <id>36</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>chg talk page policy -- looks like a lot of work is needed here that I'm about to begin; also, not subst'ing Babel until things settle down -- current version very unfriendly</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Babel|en}}
Please see [[:en:User:Dcljr|my user page at the English Wikiversity]] for information about me. Place any comments or questions about my activities here at the central '''Wikiversity''' on [[User talk:Dcljr|my talk page here]].</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>User talk:Dcljr</title>
    <id>184</id>
    <revision>
      <id>698</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T08:40:30Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Guillom</username>
        <id>4</id>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <comment>/* Welcome */ answ</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">== Welcome ==

Hello! Welcome and thanks for your help :) [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 06:41, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

:Thanks for your efforts. I don't think we are going to have many categories for users, but let's keep this organized: I think it is better to put them into the [[:Category:User languages]]. And I think people should only go in one category (for instance [[:Category:User en-3]]). [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 08:40, 29 August 2006 (UTC)</text>
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  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Category:Users</title>
    <id>185</id>
    <revision>
      <id>697</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T07:24:26Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Dcljr</username>
        <id>36</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>recat:Wikiversity</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:Wikiversity]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Category:User de</title>
    <id>186</id>
    <revision>
      <id>780</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T13:07:04Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Guillom</username>
        <id>4</id>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <comment>[[Category:Users by language]]</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:Users by language|De]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Category:User de-1</title>
    <id>187</id>
    <revision>
      <id>661</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T06:35:20Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Dcljr</username>
        <id>36</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:User de|*]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Category:User de-2</title>
    <id>188</id>
    <revision>
      <id>662</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T06:35:27Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Dcljr</username>
        <id>36</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:User de|*]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Category:User de-3</title>
    <id>189</id>
    <revision>
      <id>663</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T06:35:33Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Dcljr</username>
        <id>36</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:User de|*]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Category:User de-4</title>
    <id>190</id>
    <revision>
      <id>664</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T06:35:39Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Dcljr</username>
        <id>36</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:User de|*]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Category:User en-N</title>
    <id>191</id>
    <revision>
      <id>690</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T06:46:55Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Dcljr</username>
        <id>36</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>chg sortkey</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:User en| ]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Category:User en-1</title>
    <id>192</id>
    <revision>
      <id>691</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T06:46:56Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Dcljr</username>
        <id>36</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>chg sortkey</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:User en| ]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Category:User en-2</title>
    <id>193</id>
    <revision>
      <id>692</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T06:46:57Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Dcljr</username>
        <id>36</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>chg sortkey</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:User en| ]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Category:User en-3</title>
    <id>194</id>
    <revision>
      <id>693</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T06:46:58Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Dcljr</username>
        <id>36</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>chg sortkey</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:User en| ]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Category:User en-4</title>
    <id>195</id>
    <revision>
      <id>694</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T06:47:00Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Dcljr</username>
        <id>36</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>chg sortkey</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:User en| ]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Category:User es-N</title>
    <id>196</id>
    <revision>
      <id>670</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T06:36:32Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Dcljr</username>
        <id>36</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:User es|*]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Category:User eo</title>
    <id>197</id>
    <revision>
      <id>782</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T13:07:42Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Guillom</username>
        <id>4</id>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <comment>[[Category:Users by language]]</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:Users by language|Eo]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Category:User eo-3</title>
    <id>198</id>
    <revision>
      <id>672</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T06:36:36Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Dcljr</username>
        <id>36</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:User eo|*]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Category:User eo-2</title>
    <id>199</id>
    <revision>
      <id>673</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T06:36:38Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Dcljr</username>
        <id>36</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:User eo|*]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Category:User eo-1</title>
    <id>200</id>
    <revision>
      <id>674</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T06:36:40Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Dcljr</username>
        <id>36</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:User eo|*]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Category:User es-1</title>
    <id>201</id>
    <revision>
      <id>675</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T06:36:51Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Dcljr</username>
        <id>36</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:User es|*]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Category:User es-2</title>
    <id>202</id>
    <revision>
      <id>676</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T06:36:53Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Dcljr</username>
        <id>36</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:User es|*]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Category:User es-3</title>
    <id>203</id>
    <revision>
      <id>679</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T06:40:17Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Dcljr</username>
        <id>36</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:User es|*]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Category:User es-4</title>
    <id>204</id>
    <revision>
      <id>680</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T06:40:20Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Dcljr</username>
        <id>36</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:User es|*]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Category:User fr</title>
    <id>205</id>
    <revision>
      <id>783</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T13:07:58Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Guillom</username>
        <id>4</id>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <comment>[[Category:Users by language]]</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:Users by language|Fr]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Category:User fr-1</title>
    <id>206</id>
    <revision>
      <id>682</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T06:40:28Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Dcljr</username>
        <id>36</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:User fr|*]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Category:User fr-2</title>
    <id>207</id>
    <revision>
      <id>683</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T06:40:31Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Dcljr</username>
        <id>36</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:User fr|*]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Category:User fr-3</title>
    <id>208</id>
    <revision>
      <id>684</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T06:40:34Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Dcljr</username>
        <id>36</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:User fr|*]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Category:User fr-4</title>
    <id>209</id>
    <revision>
      <id>685</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T06:40:36Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Dcljr</username>
        <id>36</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:User fr|*]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Category:User en</title>
    <id>210</id>
    <revision>
      <id>781</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T13:07:25Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Guillom</username>
        <id>4</id>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <comment>[[Category:Users by language]]</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:Users by language|En]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>MediaWiki:Monobook.js</title>
    <id>211</id>
    <revision>
      <id>2542</id>
      <timestamp>2006-09-03T12:04:14Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Guillom</username>
        <id>4</id>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <comment>should work</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">/* &lt;pre&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt; */

/* tooltips and access keys */
ta = new Object();
ta['pt-userpage'] = new Array('.','My user page');
ta['pt-anonuserpage'] = new Array('.','The user page for the ip you\'re editing as');
ta['pt-mytalk'] = new Array('n','My talk page');
ta['pt-anontalk'] = new Array('n','Discussion about edits from this ip address');
ta['pt-preferences'] = new Array('','My preferences');
ta['pt-watchlist'] = new Array('l','The list of pages you\'re monitoring for changes.');
ta['pt-mycontris'] = new Array('y','List of my contributions');
ta['pt-login'] = new Array('o','You are encouraged to log in, it is not mandatory however.');
ta['pt-anonlogin'] = new Array('o','You are encouraged to log in, it is not mandatory however.');
ta['pt-logout'] = new Array('o','Log out');
ta['ca-talk'] = new Array('t','Discussion about the content page');
ta['ca-edit'] = new Array('e','You can edit this page. Please use the preview button before saving.');
ta['ca-addsection'] = new Array('+','Add a comment to this discussion.');
ta['ca-viewsource'] = new Array('e','This page is protected. You can view its source.');
ta['ca-history'] = new Array('h','Past versions of this page.');
ta['ca-protect'] = new Array('=','Protect this page');
ta['ca-delete'] = new Array('d','Delete this page');
ta['ca-undelete'] = new Array('d','Restore the edits done to this page before it was deleted');
ta['ca-move'] = new Array('m','Move this page');
ta['ca-watch'] = new Array('w','Add this page to your watchlist');
ta['ca-unwatch'] = new Array('w','Remove this page from your watchlist');
ta['search'] = new Array('f','Search this wiki');
ta['p-logo'] = new Array('','Main Page');
ta['n-mainpage'] = new Array('z','Visit the Main Page');
ta['n-portal'] = new Array('','About the project, what you can do, where to find things');
ta['n-currentevents'] = new Array('','Find background information on current events');
ta['n-recentchanges'] = new Array('r','The list of recent changes in the wiki.');
ta['n-randompage'] = new Array('x','Load a random page');
ta['n-help'] = new Array('','The place to find out.');
ta['n-sitesupport'] = new Array('','Support us');
ta['t-whatlinkshere'] = new Array('j','List of all wiki pages that link here');
ta['t-recentchangeslinked'] = new Array('k','Recent changes in pages linked from this page');
ta['feed-rss'] = new Array('','RSS feed for this page');
ta['feed-atom'] = new Array('','Atom feed for this page');
ta['t-contributions'] = new Array('','View the list of contributions of this user');
ta['t-emailuser'] = new Array('','Send a mail to this user');
ta['t-upload'] = new Array('u','Upload images or media files');
ta['t-specialpages'] = new Array('q','List of all special pages');
ta['ca-nstab-main'] = new Array('c','View the content page');
ta['ca-nstab-user'] = new Array('c','View the user page');
ta['ca-nstab-media'] = new Array('c','View the media page');
ta['ca-nstab-special'] = new Array('','This is a special page, you can\'t edit the page itself.');
ta['ca-nstab-wp'] = new Array('a','View the project page');
ta['ca-nstab-image'] = new Array('c','View the image page');
ta['ca-nstab-mediawiki'] = new Array('c','View the system message');
ta['ca-nstab-template'] = new Array('c','View the template');
ta['ca-nstab-help'] = new Array('c','View the help page');
ta['ca-nstab-category'] = new Array('c','View the category page');

/**
 * Implements language selection for multilingual elements
 * 
 * In certain environments, it's not feasible to neatly box away each
 * different language into its own section of the site. By marking elements
 * multilingual, you can emulate this behavior by only displaying only the 
 * message in the user's language. This reduced the &quot;Tower of Babel&quot; effect.
 * 
 * @author Edward Z. Yang (Ambush Commander)
 * @version $Id: language_select.js 1133 2006-09-02 22:27:24Z Edward $
 */

/* Configuration: */

// in your monobook.js, set ls_enable = false to stop the javascript
// maybe it should be cookie configurable. However, you can achieve
// something almost to this effect through cookie settings
var ls_enable = true;

// the cookie name we use to stash the info.
// change this if you are porting it to another wiki!
var ls_cookie = 'beta_language_js';

// link to the language select page
var ls_help_url = 'http://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Language_select';

// strings that are part of the widgets
var ls_string_help = ' ¿ ? ';
var ls_string_select = ' ➤ ';
var ls_string_showall = ' ⋙ ';

// define some meta-variables
var ls__first = true; // the first iteration?

// node compatability fix
if (!window.Node) {
    var Node = {
        ELEMENT_NODE : 1,
        ATTRIBUTE_NODE: 2,
        TEXT_NODE: 3,
        COMMENT_NODE: 8,
        DOCUMENT_NODE: 9,
        DOCUMENT_FRAGMENT_NODE: 11
    };
}

// autodetects a browser language
function ls_getBrowserLanguage() {
    var language;
    // borrowed from Wikimedia's site error notice
    // find the language
    if (navigator.userLanguage) {
        // use the user's preferred language (non-Gecko)
        language = navigator.userLanguage;
    } else if (navigator.appName == 'Netscape') {
        // use the only language information available to Gecko
        language = navigator.language;
    } else {
        // get the browser language information in non-Gecko browsers
        // (IE, Opera, Konqueror)
        language = navigator.browserLanguage;
    }
    return language;
}

// grabs language from cookie
function ls_getCookieLanguage() {
    var allcookies = document.cookie;
    var marker = ls_cookie + '=';
    var pos = allcookies.indexOf(marker);
    
    // cookie isn't set, so no behavior defined
    if (pos === -1) return null;
    
    // cookie is set
    var start = pos + marker.length;
    var end   = allcookies.indexOf(';', start);
    if (end == -1) end = allcookies.length;
    
    var raw   = allcookies.substring(start,end);
    var value = unescape(raw);
    
    return value;
}

// sets a new language to the cookie
function ls_setCookieLanguage(language) {
    var today = new Date();
    var expiry = new Date(today.getUTCFullYear() + 30, 1);
    document.cookie = ls_cookie + '=' + escape(language) + '; expires=' + expiry.toGMTString();
}

// grabs the ISO 639 language code based
// on either the browser or a supplied cookie
// return of &quot;mul&quot; will display all available strings
function ls_getLanguage() {
    var language = '';
    
    // Priority:
    //  1. Cookie
    //  2. Browser autodetection
    
    // grab according to cookie
    language = ls_getCookieLanguage();
    
    // grab according to browser if none defined
    if (!language) {
        language = ls_getBrowserLanguage();
    }
    
    // inflexible: can't accept multiple languages
    
    // remove dialect/region code, leaving only the ISO 639 code
    var length;
    // possible bug: supposedly the language string could be en_US
    // switch to regexps when we get the chance
    if ((length = language.indexOf('-')) !== -1) {
        language = language.substr(0, length);
    }
    
    return language;
}

// walks all child elements and finds all elements with multilingual in them
function ls_getAllMultilingualElements(n) {
    var elements = new Array();
    // possible bug if we have a classname that includes the word multilingual
    //   but it's unlikely
    if (n.className &amp;&amp; n.className.indexOf('multilingual') != -1) {
        elements = elements.concat(n);
    }
    var children = n.childNodes;
    for(var i=0; i &lt; children.length; i++) {
        if (children[i].nodeType !== Node.ELEMENT_NODE) continue;
        elements = elements.concat(ls_getAllMultilingualElements(children[i]));
    }
    return elements;
}

// walks a hash and hides all non-matching languages
function ls_hideAllExcept(lang_element_hash, language) {
    for (var n in lang_element_hash) {
        if (n == language) {
            lang_element_hash[n].style.display = '';
        } else {
            lang_element_hash[n].style.display = 'none';
        }
    }
}

// walks a hash and shows all languages
function ls_showAll(lang_element_hash) {
    for (var n in lang_element_hash) {
        if (lang_element_hash[n].style.display) {
            lang_element_hash[n].style.display = '';
        }
    }
}

// build widget for changing the language cookie
function ls_buildWidget(language) {
   
    // set up the floating form
    var form = document.createElement('form');
    form.className = 'lang_info';
    form.onsubmit = function() {
        if (this.elements[2].ls_mul_flag) {
            this.elements[2].ls_mul_flag = false;
            var language = 'mul';
            var temporary = true;
        } else {
            ls_setCookieLanguage(this.elements[0].value);
            var language = this.elements[0].value;
            var temporary = false;
        }
        ls_applyLanguageSelect(language, temporary);
        
        return false; // don't perform action
    };
    form.appendSpace = function() {
        this.appendChild(document.createTextNode(' '));
    };
    
    // link to language select description page
    var link = document.createElement('a');
    link.href = ls_help_url;
    link.className = 'ls_link';
    link.appendChild(document.createTextNode(ls_string_help));
    form.appendChild(link);
    
    form.appendSpace();
    
    // input box for the language
    var input = document.createElement('input');
    input.setAttribute('type', 'text');
    input.setAttribute('size', '2');
    input.setAttribute('maxlength', '3');
    input.onclick = function() { this.select(); };
    input.className = 'ls_input';
    input.value = language;
    form.appendChild(input);
    
    form.appendSpace();
    
    // save button
    var submit = document.createElement('input');
    submit.setAttribute('type', 'submit');
    submit.value = ls_string_select;
    submit.className = 'ls_select';
    form.appendChild(submit);
    
    form.appendSpace();
    
    // show all button 
    // equivalent to setting input box to &quot;mul&quot; and pressing save
    var showall = document.createElement('input');
    showall.setAttribute('type', 'submit');
    showall.value = ls_string_showall;
    showall.onclick = function() {
        this.ls_mul_flag = true;
    };
    form.appendChild(showall);
    
    return form;
    
}

// main body of the function
function ls_applyLanguageSelect(language, temporary) {
    
    // possible site for cookie checking to disable language select
    if (!ls_enable) return;
    
    // grab the body element (only one)
    var body = document.getElementsByTagName('body')[0];
    
    // grab an array of multilingual elements
    var mls = ls_getAllMultilingualElements(body);
    
    // this will get overwritten many times, temporary variable
    var form, language_element_hash;
    
    // iterate through all those elements
    for (var i = 0; i &lt; mls.length; i++) {
        var ml   = mls[i];        // the current multilingual container
        var ml_c = ml.childNodes; // children of the container
        
        // if it's the first iteration...
        if (ls__first) {
            form = ls_buildWidget(language);
            ml.appendChild(form, ml_c[0]);
        } else {
            // update widget
            form = ml_c[ml_c.length - 1]; // form is last element
            if (!temporary) {
                form.elements[0].value = language;
                form.elements[0].removeAttribute('disabled');
                form.elements[2].removeAttribute('disabled');
            } else {
                form.elements[0].setAttribute('disabled', 'disabled');
                form.elements[2].setAttribute('disabled', 'disabled');
            }
        }
        
        form.elements[0].style.background=&quot;#FFF&quot;;
        
        // tells us whether or not to blindly perform the keep
        var message_exists  = false;
        
        // iterate through all languages and set up a hash
        //   with references to each of the language nodes
        lang_element_hash = new Object();
        for (var j = 0; j &lt; ml_c.length; j++) {
            var n = ml_c[j];
            if (n.nodeType != Node.ELEMENT_NODE) continue; // skip non-elements
            if (!n.lang) continue; // skip non-language specific elements
            if (n.lang.indexOf(language) === 0) {
                // it turns out our language is here
                message_exists  = true;
            }
            lang_element_hash[n.lang] = n;
        }
        
        // if a preferred language was kept, do quickest processing
        if (message_exists) {
            ls_hideAllExcept(lang_element_hash, language);
            continue;
        }
        
        // otherwise, nothing happened, this means that it wasn't found
        
        // if it's not the first time, repaint all of them
        if (!ls__first) {
            ls_showAll(lang_element_hash);
        }
        
        if (language != 'mul') {
            form.elements[0].style.background=&quot;#FCC&quot;;
        }
        
    }
    
    // we've already processed once
    ls__first = false;
    
}

function ls_applyDefaultLanguageSelect() {
    ls_applyLanguageSelect(ls_getLanguage(), false);
}

// register as onload function (there must be a better way)
if (window.addEventListener) {
    window.addEventListener(&quot;load&quot;, ls_applyDefaultLanguageSelect, false);
} else if (window.attachEvent) {
    window.attachEvent(&quot;onload&quot;, ls_applyDefaultLanguageSelect);
}


/* &lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/pre&gt; */</text>
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  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Wikiversity:Language select/En</title>
    <id>212</id>
    <revision>
      <id>3765</id>
      <timestamp>2006-11-01T15:13:39Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Korg</username>
        <id>2</id>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <comment>rv</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Wikiversity:Language select}}

''For a more detailed version about this feature, see [[m:Meta:Language select|Meta:Language select]].''


'''[[m:Meta:Language select|Language select]]''' allows users to hide foreign languages on multilingual pages. This would, for example, allow a French reader to see only French text on multilingual pages (though they would still see Spanish on a Spanish-only page).

== How to select a language ==

* To select a language, enter its [[List of ISO 639-1 codes|ISO 639-1 code]] in the input box (&lt;code&gt;en&lt;/code&gt; for English), and click on &lt;big&gt;➤&lt;/big&gt;.
* If you want to display all languages, type &lt;code&gt;mul&lt;/code&gt; or click on &lt;big&gt;⋙&lt;/big&gt;.

== Usage ==
&lt;!--
=== Identifying multilingual pages ===
Pages that implement language selection include a notice using {{tl|multilingual}}.
--&gt;
=== JavaScript ===
The JavaScript method is activated by default on Wikiversity Beta. You can disable it by adding the following line to [[Special:Mypage/monobook.js|your script file]]. &lt;pre&gt;ls_enable = false;&lt;/pre&gt;

You can see an example of the JavaScript in action below. If language selection is disabled, all of the text will be displayed.

&lt;div class=&quot;multilingual&quot;&gt;
{{ls|ca|Aquest text és en català.}}
{{ls|de|Dieser Text ist Deutsch.}}
{{ls|en|This text is English.}}
{{ls|fr|Ce texte est Français.}}
{{ls|pt|Este texto está em Português.}}
{{ls|sc|Custu testu est in Sardu.}}
{{ls|la|Haec nota Latine scriptus est.}}
{{ls|zh|这些文字是中文。}}
&lt;/div&gt;

You can view the JavaScript code at [{{fullurl:MediaWiki:Monobook.js|action=render}} MediaWiki:Monobook.js].

== Delimiting languages ==

The template {{[[Template:ls|ls]]}} simplifies the implementation of language select. 

&lt;pre&gt;{{ls|en|This text is English.}}
&lt;/pre&gt;


[[Category:Multilingualism]]
[[Category:EN]]</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Wikiversity:Language select</title>
    <id>213</id>
    <revision>
      <id>4678</id>
      <timestamp>2006-12-08T20:21:05Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>90.25.5.79</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>+br</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Wikiversity:Language select}}

{{Browse
|br=ar rezhiad dibab yezhoù
|de=das Sprachenauswahlsystem
|el=σύστημα επιλογής γλώσσας
|en=the language selection system
|eo=la laŭlingvan elmontrsistemon 
|es=el sistema de selección de idioma
|fr=le système d'affichage selon la langue
|no=språkvalgsystemet
|pt=o sistema de seleção de idioma
|ksh=dem Süßtehm zem Shprooche Ußsööke
|zh=语言选择系统
}}

[[Category:Wikiversity]]</text>
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  <page>
    <title>User:Greudin</title>
    <id>214</id>
    <revision>
      <id>766</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T11:53:31Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Greudin</username>
        <id>37</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>\o/</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">Bonjour,

Supporter de la Wikiversité (francophone Wikiversity)

*[[b:fr:Wikiversité]]</text>
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  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Category:Users by language</title>
    <id>215</id>
    <revision>
      <id>3461</id>
      <timestamp>2006-10-14T09:29:06Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Hillgentleman</username>
        <id>30</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div class=&quot;multilingual&quot;&gt;
{{ls|af|Lys van Beta-gebruikers (deur taal)}}
{{ls|br|Roll implijerien Beta (dre o yezh)}}
{{ls|ca|Llistat de Beta usuaris (per llengua)}}
{{ls|da|Liste over Beta-brugere (efter sprog)}}
{{ls|de|Liste der Beta-Benutzer (nach Sprache)}}
{{ls|el|Κατάλογος χρηστών στο Μετα (ανά γλώσσα)}}
{{ls|en|List of Beta users (by language)}}
{{ls|es|Lista de Beta usuarios (por idioma)}}
{{ls|fi|Lista Beta käyttäjistä (kielen mukaan)}}
{{ls|fr|Liste des Beta utilisateurs (par langue)}}
{{ls|gil|Te rinan ni ware ke taeka ni Beta-tia anga te mane n tangoaki ni karekea bakoana (n te taetae)}}
{{ls|gl|Lista de Beta usuarios (por lingua)}}
{{ls|hr|Popis Beta korisnika (po jeziku)}}
{{ls|it|Lista dei Beta utenti (per lingua)}}
&lt;!--{{ls|ja|メタ利用者リスト(言語別)}}
{{ls|ko|(언어별) 메타위키 사용자의 일람}}--&gt;
{{ls|ksh|Medmaacher bëij Beta (noh Shprooche)}}
{{ls|la|Usori Bet&amp;aelig; (lingua)}}
{{ls|lt|Beta vartotojų sąrašas (pagal kalbas)}}
{{ls|ms|Senarai pengguna Beta (mengikut bahasa)}}
{{ls|nds|Beta Bruker (nah Sprak)}}
{{ls|nl|Lijst van Beta gebruikers (per taal)}}
{{ls|no|Liste over Beta-brukere (etter språk)}}
{{ls|pl|Użytkownicy stron Beta (w kolejności języków)}}
{{ls|pt|Lista de Beta usuários (por idioma)}}
{{ls|ru|Список участников Bета (по языку)}}
{{ls|sl|Seznam Beta uporabnikov (po jeziku)}}
{{ls|sv|Lista över Beta användare (efter språk)}}
&lt;!--{{ls|th|รายชื่อของผู้ใช้ (แยกตามภาษา)}}--&gt;
{{ls|zh|元维基用户列表（按语言）}}
{{ls|zh-tw|元維基用戶列表(按語言)}}
&lt;/div&gt;

[[Category:Multilingualism]]
[[Category:Users]]</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Wikiversity:Announcements/De</title>
    <id>216</id>
    <revision>
      <id>4792</id>
      <timestamp>2006-12-24T17:34:41Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Erkan Yilmaz</username>
        <id>169</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>englischen text ins deutsche übersetzt</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;noinclude&gt;
{{Languages|Wikiversity:Announcements}}
''Diese Seite enthält Ankündigungen, die '''[[Main Page|Wikiversity Beta]]''' und die '''[[Wikiversity:Separate projects|einzelnen Sprachversionen]]''' betreffen. Siehe auch Meta [[m:Goings-on|Goings-on]].''


;Available templates:{{tl|announce/talk}} · {{tl|announce/beta}} · {{tl|announce/local}}

;Syntax:&lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{Announce/talk|date|message}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;
&lt;/noinclude&gt;__NOTOC__ __NOEDITSECTION__
&lt;div class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;
==Ankündigungen==
&lt;!--- Ankündigungen ----------------------&gt;
====Dezember 2006====
{{announce/local|16|Die [[:fr:Accueil|Französiche Wikiversity]] wurde gestartet.}}
====November 2006====
{{announce/talk|18|[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiversity/logo Nominierung von farblichen Veränderungen für das Wikiversity Logo auf Meta]}}
====Oktober 2006====
{{announce/local|16|Die [[:es:Portada|Spanische Wikiversity]] wurde gestartet.}}
====September 2006====
{{announce/beta|28| Sollen wir [[Wikiversity_talk:A_proposal_for_european_project|	
einen Antrag als ein europäisches Projekt]] stellen?}}
{{announce/beta|3| Unter [[Wikiversity:Scope of research/De|Scope of research]] wurde eine mehrsprachig geführte Diskussion zu den künftigen Wikiversity Forschungsrichtlinien gestartet.}}
====August 2006====
{{announce/beta|29| [[Wikiversity:Language select/De|System zur Voreinstellung einer Sprachpräferenz]] auf Beta implementiert.}}
{{announce/beta|26| Babelvorlagen verfügbar. [[Wikiversity:Request custodian action|Sag bescheid, wenn Deine fehlt]].}}
{{announce/talk|26|Vorschlag eines neuen Verfahrens für [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/De|mehrsprachige Diskussionen]].}}
{{announce/beta|24| '''[[Main Page|Beta Wikiversity]] gestartet.'''}}
{{announce/talk|23|Wikiversity [[m:Wikiversity/logo|Logo-Wettbewerb]] auf Meta gestartet.}}
{{announce/talk|22|Hilf mit, das [[m:Www.wikiversity.org template|Wikiversity Webportal]] zu verbessern.}}
{{announce/local|15| [[:en:Main Page|Englischsprachige Wikiversity]] gestartet.}}
&lt;div style=&quot;text-align:center;&quot;&gt;{{edit|Wikiversity:Announcements/De}} · &lt;small&gt;[http://beta.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=Wikiversity:Announcements/De&amp;action=watch beobachten]&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;noinclude&gt;

[[Category:Wikiversity]]
[[Category:DE]]
&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Category:DE</title>
    <id>217</id>
    <revision>
      <id>789</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T13:36:24Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Frank Schulenburg</username>
        <id>34</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">''Diese Kategorie enthält Seiten in deutscher Sprache.''

[[Category:Pages by language]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:Edit/De</title>
    <id>218</id>
    <revision>
      <id>792</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T13:42:35Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Frank Schulenburg</username>
        <id>34</id>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;small class=&quot;editlink&quot;&gt;[{{fullurl:{{{1|{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}}|action=edit}} ändern {{{2|{{{1|{{NAMESPACE}}:{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}]&lt;/small&gt;&lt;noinclude&gt;
[[Category:Templates in German]]
&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Category:Templates in German</title>
    <id>219</id>
    <revision>
      <id>793</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T13:43:49Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Frank Schulenburg</username>
        <id>34</id>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <text xml:space="preserve">''Diese Kategorie enthält Vorlagen in deutscher Sprache.''

[[Category:DE]]</text>
    </revision>
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  <page>
    <title>Category:Users de fr-3</title>
    <id>220</id>
    <revision>
      <id>794</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-29T13:50:41Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Frank Schulenburg</username>
        <id>34</id>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:User de| ]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Wikiversity:Multilingualism/De</title>
    <id>221</id>
    <revision>
      <id>2413</id>
      <timestamp>2006-08-31T20:46:30Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Guillom</username>
        <id>4</id>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <comment>/* Übersetzen */ +* [[Wikiversity:Language select]]</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Wikiversity:Multilingualism}}

Wikiversity Beta ist eine globale Plattform, die darauf abzielt, Wikiversity-Projekte in verschiedenen Sprachen zu koordinieren. Um von der Mitarbeit der Projektteilnehmer aller Sprachen profitieren zu können (und nicht etwa nur derjenigen, die in der Lage sind, ihre Beiträge auf Englisch zu verfassen), soll auf Beta ein funktionierendes System mehrsprachiger Diskussionen geschaffen werden.

== Das bestehende System ==

Mehrsprachigkeit ist häufig eine Einbahnstraße: Zunächst gibt es eine Ausgangsseite in englischer Sprache, dann übersetzen Menschen diese Seite, um die Informationen auch nicht-englischsprachigen Lesern zugänglich zu machen. Das größte Problem dieser Verfahrensweise ist die Tatsache, dass Menschen, die die Englische Sprache nicht schreibend beherrschen, nicht an Diskussionen teilnehmen können, sondern nur passiv auf die übersetzten Informationen zugreifen können.

Da die Fragen, die auf Beta besprochen werden, aber Wikiversities in allen Sprachen betreffen, ist es nötig, dass Teilnehmer aus allen Projekten aktiv an der Diskussion teilnehmen können.

== Vorschlag für ein neues System ==

''Die Diskussion über diesen Vorschlag kann auf der Diskussionsseite geführt werden.''

&lt;div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;width:50%;display:block;float:left;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion1.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''1''' - Teilnehmer, die eine neue Diskussion starten, schreiben eine kurze Zusammenfassung, worum es inhaltlich geht und fügen einen Verweis auf die Koordinationsseite hinzu.]]
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;width:49%;display:block;float:right;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion2.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''2''' - Übersetzer übertragen die Zusammenfassung in andere Sprachen und fügen Verweise auf die Koordinationsseite hinzu.]]
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;width:50%;display:block;float:left;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion3.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''3''' - Auf der Diskussionsseite in jeder Sprache diskutieren die Teilnehmer, artikulieren ihre Meinung und stellen Fragen. Sie schreiben einen kurzen Absatz, in dem sie ihren Beitrag zusammenfassen und tragen ihn auf der Unterseite ihrer Sprache mit einer neuen ID ein. Anschließend fügen sie diese ID auf der Koordinationsseite ein und verlinken damit auf ihre Zusammenfassung.]]
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;width:49%;display:block;float:right;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion4.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''4''' - Übersetzer kontrollieren regelmäßig die Koordinationsseite und übersetzen die neue Zusammenfassung auf ihrer Seite (mit derselben ID). Sie fügen Verweise von der Koordinationsseite hinzu.]]
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;width:50%;display:block;float:left;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion5.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''5''' - Die Diskussion wird fortgesetzt. Jeder neuen Zusammenfassung wird eine neue, eindeutige ID zugewiesen, durch die sie mit der Koordinationsseite und den Unterseiten aller Sprachen verlinkt ist.]]
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;

=== Richtlinien, damit dieses System funktioniert ===
* '''Je kürzer, umso besser:''' Inhaltliche Prägnanz ist der Schlüssel für das Funktionieren mehrsprachiger Diskussionen. Lange Wortbeiträge werden womöglich nicht übersetzt und dadurch in anderen Sprachen nicht beachtet. Das bedeutet, dass solche Ideen, Kritik oder Fragen keine Beachtung finden.
* '''Ankündigung :''' immer, wenn eine Diskussion begonnen wird, sollte sie auf der Seite [[Wikiversity:Announcements/En]] angekündigt werden.
* '''Absatznummerierung:''' Absätze müssen durchnumeriert werden, damit sie einfach wiedergefunden werden: die erste Zusammenfassung ist #1, weitere Zusammenfassungen folgen. Dies heißt, dass die Teilnehmer die anderen Seiten kontrollieren müssen, bevor sie einen neuen Absatz auf der Seite ihrer Sprache anlegen. Auf diese Weise wird sichergestellt, dass alle Seiten auf dem neuesten Stand sind und dass keine Probleme mit der Zählung entstehen.

=== Vorteile des Systems ===
* Jeder kann sich an Diskussionen beteiligen.
* Diskussionsteilnehmer sind gezwungen, sich kurz zu fassen und sich auf ihre Kernaussagen zu beschränken.
* Das System ermöglicht die Konsensbildung unter allen Projektteilnehmern, egal welche Sprache sie beherrschen.

=== Nachteile des Systems ===
* Das System beruht auf einer genügenden Zahl von Übersetzern und deren Effektivität.

== Übersetzen ==

Wenn Du mehr als einer Sprache mächtig bist, trage Dich auf der Seite '''[[Wikiversity:Translation]]''' als Übersetzer ein.

== Siehe auch==

* [[Wikiversity:Language select]]

[[Category:Multilingualism|De]]
[[Category:DE]]</text>
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&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Aquest usuari parla '''català com a la [[:Category:User ca|seva primera llengua]]'''.[[Category:User ca|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
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{{Languages|Wikiversity:Announcements}}
''Эта страница содержит сообщения связанные с '''[[Заглавная страница|Викиверситетом-Бета]]''' и '''[[Wikiversity:Separate projects|другими проектами]]'''. Также зайдите на [[m:Goings-on|Goings-on]].''


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==Сообщения==
&lt;!--- Announces ----------------------&gt;
====November 2006====
{{announce/talk|18|[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiversity/logo Colour change nomination for the Wikiversity Logo on Meta]}}
====Сентябрь 2006====
{{announce/beta|7|[[m:Wikiversity/logo|Начался опрос мнений]] о предложенных вариантах логотипа.}}
{{announce/beta|3|Началось обсуждение [[Wikiversity:Scope of research|позиции]] Wikiversity в вопросах оригинальных и спорных теорий.}}
====Август 2006====
{{announce/beta|26|Появились заготовки «Вавилона» (Babel), [[Wikiversity:Request custodian action|запросите если у вас еще нет]].}}
{{announce/talk|26|[[Wikiversity:Multilingualism|Система международных обсуждений]].}}
{{announce/beta|24|'''Запущен [[Main Page|Wikiversity Beta]].'''}}
{{announce/talk|23|[[m:Wikiversity/logo|Стартовал конкурс]] на лучший логотип для Викиверситета.}}
{{announce/talk|22|Помогите с дизайном  [[m:Www.wikiversity.org template|www портала Викиверситета]].}}
{{announce/local|15| Стартовал [[:en:Main Page|Английский Викиверситет]].}}
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==List of Translators==
*[[User:Lenev|Lenev]] 19:41, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
*From English or German into Spanish--[[User:Javier Carro|Javier Carro]] 05:52, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
*Zh:中文 &lt;---&gt; En:English &lt;--- Fr:Francais
**Hillgentleman
*From German to Dutch or English, English to Dutch and Dutch to English --[[User:Daanschr|Daanschr]] 13:10, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
*Dutch to English and vice versa. [[User:Jayden54|Jayden54]] 21:38, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

'''See also:'''[[Wikiversity:Translator's Handbook]]

[[Category:Interlingual Beta Club]]
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Викиверситет поддерживается с помощью [[wikimedia:Home|Wikimedia Foundation]], которая является некоммерческой организацией которая также поддерживает[[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Multilingual coordination|много-языковые]] и [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Copyrights|свободные]] проекты:

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| '''[http://ru.wikibooks.org Викиучебник]'''&lt;br /&gt;Учебники и руководства
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| align=&quot;center&quot; | [[Image:Commons-logo.png|31px|Commons]]
| '''[[:commons:Заглавная страница|Викисклад]]'''&lt;br /&gt;Хранилище медиафайлов
| align=&quot;center&quot; | [[Image:Wikimedia-logo.png |35px|Meta]]
| '''[[:m:Заглавная страница|Метавики]]'''&lt;br /&gt;Вики о проектах Викимедиа
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    <title>User:Hillgentleman/p1-歡迎來到維基學院</title>
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==[[Wikiversity:何為維基學院?|何為維基學院?]]==
'''維基學院''' is a space for the creation and use of free [[Portal:Learning Materials|learning materials]] and [[Wikiversity:Learning projects|activities]]. 其主要目標是:

* 為所有年齡及語言創造及維持內容[[Wikiversity:Licences|自由]]之多媒體教材及課程.

* Develop collaborative [[Portal:Learning Projects|learning projects]] and [[Wikiversity:Wikiversity community|communities]] around these materials

Wikiversity supports both learning and teaching. For further details about Wikiversity, see an outline of our [[Wikiversity:Policies|policies]].

'''[[Wikiversity:Welcome, newcomers|歡迎, 新來者]]!'''
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==Find Content==
'''[[Wikiversity:Browse|Browse]]''' our various subject areas. If you cannot find a topic, you can [[Wikiversity:Requests|request it]] or start [[Wikiversity:Adding content|working on it yourself]].&lt;BR&gt;Where are the [[Wikiversity:Wikiversity community#Where are the courses?|courses]]?

'''Visit''' Wikiversity Schools:
&lt;br&gt;[[School:Engineering|Engineering]]
- [[Portal:Humanities|Humanities]]
- [[Portal:Interdisciplinary Studies|inter 學科研究]]
- [[Portal:Life Sciences|生命科學]]
- [[Portal:Physical Sciences|物理科學]]
- [[School:Mathematics|數學]]
- [[Portal:Social Sciences|社會科學 ]]
- [[School:Practical Arts and Sciences|實用藝術和科學]]
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==幫助開發維基學院!==
'''Time dependent''':
* [[m:Wikiversity/logo|Logo contest]] for Wikiversity on meta
* [[Wikiversity:Motto contest|座右銘和口號比賽]] -為維基學院造一個座右銘和一個口號.
*''Use new main page design?'' - '''[[Wikiversity_talk:Main_Page#New_page_design|comment soon]]''' on talk page.
*[http://www.wikiversity.org/ Wikiversity Hub]. Please help draft hub page by editing at [[m:Www.wikiversity.org_template|meta-wiki www.wikiversity.org template]]. Details discussed [[Wikiversity:Colloquium#www.wikiversity.org|here]]. 
'''Ongoing''':
*''[[Wikiversity:Browse|Browse]]'' and '''[[Wikiversity:Adding content|create content]]'''... 
*[[Wikiversity:Learning projects|Learning Projects]] encourage active learning.
*[[Organizing Self Management For Wikiversity|Organizing Self Management]] for Wikiversity
*[[Wikiversity:Policies|Policies]] - Help develop our policies.
*Visit our [[Wikiversity:Community Portal|Community Portal]].

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==通信==
* '''[[Wikiversity:Colloquium|討論會]]''' -問維基學院問題 。
* [[Wikiversity:Help desk|詢問臺]] - 問任何問題.
* [[w:Internet Relay Chat|IRC]] 討論: 加入我們在 [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikiversity-en #wikiversity-en](在Freenode).
* 郵寄名單: ''Wikiversity-l''   請[http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/subscribe/wikiversity-l 訂閱] 名單或[http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikiversity-l/ 觀看檔案]。


==新聞==
* [[Wikiversity:News|公告和新聞]]
* [[Wikiversity:History of Wikiversity|維基學院歷史]] - how we got here
* Wikiversity Launch!: August 15, 2006
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新聞

    * 公告和新聞
    * Wikiversity 的歷史 - 怎麼我們這裡得到了
    * Wikiversity 發射!: 2006 年8月15 日

==研究==
*[[維基學院:研究]]
*[[Wikiversity:Research Ethics|Ethics]] in research
*[[Wikiversity:Original research|原始研究]]

==服務==
* [[Wikiversity:Service|Service]] - How Wikiversity can serve.
* [[Wikiversity:Services|Services]] - How Wikiversity can help you.
* [[Service community|Service community]] - How Wikiversity can serve Wikimedia communities.

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==圖書館==
* Wikiversity is still importing pages from Wikibooks. Please request page imports at: '''[[Wikiversity:Import]]'''
* [[Catalog]]
* [[Wikibooks:Main Page|Textbook collection]] at Wikibooks
* [[Wikibooks:]] - [[Wikibooks:Category:Wikiversity|Wikiversity Category]] | [[Wikibooks:Wikiversity|Wikiversity portal]]

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==Wikiversity in other languages==
You may read and edit courses in many different languages:&lt;br&gt;
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==Wikiversity's sister projects==
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    * 創造和主持 自由 內容、多媒體學會材料, 資源, 和課程為所有年齡組在所有語言
    * 開發合作 學習的項目 和 社區 在這些材料附近

Wikiversity 支持學會和教。為關於Wikiversity 的進一步細節, 參見我們的政策概述 。

歡迎, 新來者!
	
發現內容

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路線在哪裡 是?

參觀 Wikiversity 學校:
設計 - 人文學科 - 學科研究 - 生命科學 - 物理學 - 數學 - 社會科學 - 實用藝術和科學
幫助開發Wikiversity!

時間受撫養者:

    * 商標比賽 為Wikiversity 在階
    * 座右銘和口號比賽 - 幫助創造一個座右銘和一個口號為Wikiversity 。
    * 使用新主要頁設計? - 評論很快 關於談話頁。
    * Wikiversity 插槽。請幫助草稿插槽頁由編輯在 階wiki www.wikiversity.org 模板。細節在這兒 談論了。

持續:

    * 瀏覽 和 創造內容...
    * 學習的項目 鼓勵活躍學會。
    * 組織的自已管理 為Wikiversity
    * 政策 - 幫助開發我們的政策。
    * 參觀我們的 公共門戶。

	
研究

    * Wikiversity:Research
    * 概念 在研究
    * 原始的研究

服務

    * 服務 - 怎麼Wikiversity 可能服務。
    * 服務 - 怎麼Wikiversity 可能幫助您。
    * 服務社區 - 怎麼Wikiversity 可能服務Wikimedia 社區。

	
圖書館

    * Wikiversity 仍然進口頁從Wikibooks 。請請求頁進口在: Wikiversity:Import
    * 編目
    * 課本彙集 在Wikibooks
    * Wikibooks: - Wikiversity 類別 | Wikiversity 門戶

Wikiversity 在其它語言

您可以讀和編輯路線在許多不同的語言:
Template:WikiversityLang

Wikiversity 的姐妹項目

Wikiversity 由Wikimedia 基礎,並且主持其它多語種和自由內容項目的範圍 的一個 非盈利性組織 主持:
wikisource:
	Wikipedia
自由百科全書 	
共同性:
	Wiktionary
字典和分類詞詞典 	
Wikimedia 基礎
	Wikiquote
引文的彙集
	Wikinews
自由內容新聞 	
	Wikispecies
種類目錄 	
	Wikibooks
自由課本和指南
	Wikisource
自由內容圖書館 	
	共同性
共有的媒介貯藏庫 	
	階Wiki
Wikimedia 項目協調
檢索從&quot;http://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/User:Hillgentleman/p1-%E6%AD%A1%E8%BF%8E%E4%BE%86%E5%88%B0%E7%B6%AD%E5%9F%BA%E5%AD%B8%E9%99%A2&quot;
看法

    * 用戶頁
    * 討論
    * 編輯
    * 歷史

個人工具

    * 登錄/創造帳戶

航海

    * 主要頁
    * 幫助
    * 巴比倫
    * 最近變動
    * 任意頁
    * 捐贈

查尋
 
工具箱

    * 什麼連接這裡
    * 相關變動
    * 向上作用的負載文件
    * 特別頁
    * 可印的版本
    * 永久鏈接

在其它語言

    * 德意志

    * 這頁是最後更新04:01, 2006 年10月10 日。
    * 內容是可利用的在 GNU 自由文獻執照之下。
    * 隱私權政策
    * 關於Wikiversity
    * 聲明


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Wikiversity is a new Wikimedia Foundation project devoted to using wiki technology to support online learning.

See: an [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:About introduction to Wikiversity] at the English language Wikiversity.

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'''''Wikiversity is a centre for the creation and use of free learning materials and activities.''''' Its primary priorities and goals are to:

*Create and host a range of free-content, multilingual learning materials/resources, for all age groups in all languages
*Host scholarly/learning projects and communities that support these materials
*Complement and develop existing Wikimedia projects (eg. a project devoted to finding good sources for Wikipedia articles)

In the fulfillment of its mission, other tasks and goals may be initiated and developed by participants to support learning and the creation of new content.  In particular, guidelines will be developed during the beta phase of Wikiversity's development on hosting and fostering ''research'' based in part on existing resources in Wikiversity and other Wikimedia projects.

==Source==
*[http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Approved_Wikiversity_project_proposal Approved Wikiversity project proposal]

==See also==
*[[Wikiversity:Research]]

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Development of Wikiversity research policy, guidelines and community can be facilitated by study of the Wikiversity project source documents.

==1==
&lt;big&gt;'''Source documents'''&lt;/big&gt;

There were two Wikiversity project proposals. The [[Wikiversity:Mission|original project proposal]] was rejected by the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. The [[Wikiversity:Approved Wikiversity project proposal|second Wikiversity project proposal]] was approved.

===From the first project proposal===
*'''Mission''': The purpose of the Wikiversity project, which will ultimately reside at www.wikiversity.org, is to build an electronic institution of learning that will be used to test the limits of the wiki model both for developing electronic learning resources as well as for teaching and for conducting research and publishing results (within a policy framework developed by the community).

===From the approved project proposal===
*'''[[Wikiversity:Mission/En|Mission]]''': ... &quot;guidelines will be developed during the beta phase of Wikiversity's development on hosting and fostering research based in part on existing resources in Wikiversity and other Wikimedia projects&quot; ...

*'''[[Wikiversity:Secondary research|Secondary research]]''': 
**&quot;These groups/communities will be help desks, mentoring teams, cohort groups, debate clubs - practical applications might be in doing research for Wikipedia&quot; ...
** ... &quot;Wikiversity will naturally complement existing Wikimedia projects by providing an environment that supports and fosters scholarly 'secondary research'.&quot;

*'''[[Wikiversity:Original research|Original research]]''': &quot;Wikiversity could act as a repository of research carried out by the [[meta:Wikimedia Research Network|Wikimedia Research Network]] or other people involved in wiki-based [[meta:research|research]], and could also host the proceedings of [[meta:Wikimania|Wikimania]]. Whether or not Wikiversity will ever host original research in addition to secondary research is the subject of debate (see [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity_talk:Approved_Wikiversity_project_proposal the project proposal talk page]) though original research could take place based on materials in Wikiversity (eg. materials on sociology prompt a survey research project). Guidelines for what would be appropriate research will be developed during the beta phase of the project through a community consensus process, and reviewed (by the [[meta:Special projects committee|Special projects committee]]) after six months. There will not ''necessarily'' be 'approval' of research added to Wikiversity - though some sort of review process needs to be established which will deal with potential problems.&quot;

==2==
&lt;big&gt;'''Comments at Wikimania 2006'''&lt;/big&gt;

([http://wikimania2006.wikimedia.org/wiki/Opening_Plenary_%28transcript%29#Wikiversity_.2826:35.29 source])
*&quot;..... the idea here is to also host learning communities, so people who are actually trying to learn, actually have a place to come and interact and help each other figure out how to learn things. We're also going to be hosting and fostering research into how these kinds of things can be used more effectively.&quot; 

==3==
&lt;big&gt;14 August 2006 instructions from the Board&lt;/big&gt;
([http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2006-August/009074.html source], by Board member [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Anthere Anthere])
*&quot;..... guidelines should be developped, *in particular* with regards to collaborative research. We would hope that these guidelines are as much as possible developped on the beta site (in particular collaborative research), so that all languages share a common goal and a few common non negociable rules.&quot; [[#Notes|see note 1]]
*&quot;At the end of these 6 months [beta] period, the project will be reviewed, in particular so that the issue of collaborative research is qualified, and if possible to define whether the beta stage is over. Reviewal will be done by Spc.&quot; [[#Notes|see note 2]]

==4==
''New discussions''

==Notes==
*[1] - &quot;beta site&quot; means [[Main Page|Wikiversity Beta]]&lt;BR&gt;
*[2] - &quot;Spc&quot; is the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special_projects_committee special projects committee].

==See also==
*[[Wikiversity:Secondary research/En|Secondary research]] - research into a topic using the method of literature review
*[[Wikiversity:Original research/En|Original research]] - unpublished research into a topic using literature review and/or methods in addition to literature review
*[[Wikiversity:Scope of research/En|Scope of research]] - should Wikiversity allow all types of research, including original research?
*[[Wikiversity:Research guidelines/En|Research guidelines]] - what rules are needed to assure that only high quality, scholarly research activities take place?
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'''Secondary research''' is concerned with the scholarly assessment of existing knowledge. Scholarly secondary research can often lead to new ways of looking at things and progress towards the creation of new knowledge. We risk wasting time &quot;recreating the wheel&quot; if we engage in [[Wikiversity:Original research|original research]] without being aware of published research results. Within Wikiversity, a common way to learn about a subject of interest is to participate in a project that reviews the existing literature and summarizes the results of that review in wiki pages.

The boundary between '''Secondary research''' and '''Original research''' is not well defined. When Wikiversity participants perform literature reviews and author webpages that document the results of their efforts they are producing new '''Secondary sources'''. [[wikipedia:Secondary sources|Secondary sources]] present analysis, synthesis, interpretation, or evaluation of information or data from other sources. Scholarly Secondary research can produce new knowledge that was not explicitly expressed in the literature that is reviewed. However, new knowledge produced by scholarly Secondary research and new knowledge produced by original research are distinguished according to the methods used in the research. Should Wikiversity allow all methods of research or just some?

==See also==
*[[Wikiversity:Research/En]] - Source documents concerning research within Wikiversity
*[[Wikiversity:Original research/En|Original research]] - unpublished research into a topic using literature review and/or methods in addition to literature review
*[[Wikiversity:Scope of research/En|Scope of research]] - should Wikiversity allow all types of research, including original research?
*[[Wikiversity:Research guidelines/En|Research guidelines]] - what rules are needed to assure that only high quality, scholarly research activities take place?

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'''Original research''' (often called &quot;primary research&quot;) can be contrasted with [[Wikiversity:Secondary research|Secondary research]]. All scholarly research starts with assessment of existing knowledge. Scholarly secondary research can often lead to progress towards the creation of new knowledge. Wikipedia allows forms of secondary research that do not produce new knowledge.

==Original research in general and within Wikimedia Foundation projects==
Original research plays important roles in education. Education is not only about existing knowledge. One of the most important functions of educational institutions is passing from generation to generation the ''culture'' of research and methods for scholarly pursuit of new knowledge. One of the best ways for students to learn is to become involved in conducting research projects. Given its education-oriented mission, it is natural for Wikiversity to concern itself with all types of research.

The term &quot;Original research&quot; has a special meaning within Wikimedia Foundation projects. Within Wikimedia Foundation projects &quot;Original research&quot; is used to refer to material placed in articles by wiki editors that has not been previously published by a reliable source. It includes unpublished material, for example, arguments, concepts, data, ideas, statements, or theories, or any new analysis or synthesis of published material that appears to advance a position — or, in the words of Wikipedia's co-founder Jimbo Wales, that would amount to a &quot;novel narrative or historical interpretation&quot; ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research source]). 

Given:&lt;BR&gt;1) the past position of the Wikimedia Foundation with respect to Original research ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wp:nor No Original Research])&lt;BR&gt;and&lt;BR&gt;2) the fundamental role of research in education&lt;BR&gt; Wikiversity must chart a new set of policies and guidelines for how to incorporate original research activities within a Wikimedia Foundation project. 

The [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Approved_Wikiversity_project_proposal approved Wikiversity project proposal] included this paragraph about the scope of Wikiversity research:

*&quot;Wikiversity could act as a repository of research carried out by the [[meta:Wikimedia Research Network|Wikimedia Research Network]] or other people involved in wiki-based [[meta:research|research]], and could also host the proceedings of [[meta:Wikimania|Wikimania]]. Whether or not Wikiversity will ever host original research in addition to secondary research is the subject of debate (see [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity_talk:Approved_Wikiversity_project_proposal the project proposal talk page]) though original research could take place based on materials in Wikiversity (eg. materials on sociology prompt a survey research project). Guidelines for what would be appropriate research will be developed during the beta phase of the project through a community consensus process, and reviewed (by the [[meta:Special projects committee|Special projects committee]]) after six months. There will not ''necessarily'' be 'approval' of research added to Wikiversity - though some sort of review process needs to be established which will deal with potential problems.&quot;

==The scope of Wikiversity research projects==
Both&lt;BR&gt;1) Secondary research projects (literature reviews that produce new knowledge and go beyond a &quot;No original research&quot; policy)&lt;BR&gt;and&lt;BR&gt;2) other Original research projects using research methods in addition to literature review&lt;BR&gt;can both generate new and previously unpublished knowledge, arguments, concepts, data, ideas, statements, or theories. If Wikiversity is going to allow such research projects, Wikiversity needs to invent and implement a new system which will &quot;which will deal with potential problems&quot; arising from original research.

===Formal peer review===
Wikimedia Foundation projects traditionally rely on the citation of supporting verifiable and reliable sources as the key criteria for inclusion of information in project webpages. This traditional method of deciding on suitability of content is not applicable to original research. [[wikipedia:Peer review|Formal peer review]] is a process of subjecting new scholarly work or ideas to the scrutiny of others who are experts in the field. Wikiversity may be able to devise a peer review system that can function to assure that original research within Wikiversity meets high standards of scholarship.

==See also==
*[[Wikiversity:Research]] - Source documents concerning research within Wikiversity
*[[Wikiversity:Secondary research/En|Secondary research]] - research into a topic using the method of literature review
*[[Wikiversity:Scope of research/En|Scope of research]] - should Wikiversity allow all types of research, including original research?
*[[Wikiversity:Research guidelines/En|Research guidelines]] - what rules are needed to assure that only high quality, scholarly research activities take place?

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The Wikiversity community needs to decide on policies and guidelines that will define the types of research activities allowed within Wikiversity. Should Wikiversity allow all types of research or only some types of research?

==Types of research==
#research projects that focus on a review of the literature and produce no new knowledge, data, or theories. Such projects would function according to the conventional Wikimedia Foundation [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/NPOV NPOV] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_original_research NOR] rules.
#research projects that focus on a review of the literature and produce new knowledge (not previously published by a reliable sources). Such projects would be excluded from the conventional Wikimedia Foundation NPOV and NOR rules.
#research projects that use research methods in addition to literature review and which produce results that have not been previously published by a reliable source. For example, a research project of this type might involve design of a questionnaire and the collection of data from wiki participants ([http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Bloom_clock_project another example]).
#collaborative research projects involving researchers at scholarly institutions outside of Wikiversity. A research project of this type might involve data collected by an [[w:Great Observatories program|observatory]] and analysis of the data by Wikiversity participants ([http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Astronomy_Project example]).

==Discussion Summaries==
See: [[Wikiversity:Scope of research/En]]
===1 first English summary ===
Slightly shortened version of the [[#Types of research|first section]] of this page.

===2 German ===
*Suggested that literature reviews are not really research.
*Suggested that each research effort in each language-specific Wikiversity needs to select its own research methods rather than have a policy for all of Wikiversity.

===3 English ===
*Pointed to [[Wikiversity:Research/En]] for instructions from the Board of Trustees about how the entire Wikiversity community needs to develop a unified research policy.
*Stressed the distinction between forms of literature review as practiced at Wikipedia under the policy of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wp:nor No Original Research] and other forms of research that would not be possible if Wikiversity also adopted the No Original Research policy.

===4 German ===
*Discussion at [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity_translations/7_September_IRC IRC #wikiversity-en] came to the conclusion that there are two research categories:  &quot;comparative research&quot;  and (single-focus?)/&quot;active research&quot;
**I suggest the term ''advanced research'', d'apres ''Institute for Advanced Study''.  The word ''advanced'' invites the connection ''advancing''.--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 11:20, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

=== 5 German ===
*The distinction &quot;original research&quot;/&quot;secondary research&quot; is covered by the German terms: &quot;empirische Forschung&quot;/&quot;Literaturstudium und Dokumentation&quot; (i.e. &quot;empirical Research&quot;/&quot;Literature study and Documentation&quot;).
**The term ''empirical'' does not quite include such things as ''logical deductions''.--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 11:21, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

*Suggestion that if Wikiversity policy were to adopt the Wikipedia rule &quot;No original research&quot;, then we should rename the project to &quot;Wiki-College&quot;.

*I think, one should let both forms appear and indicate by some kind of diacritical mark, whether the particular project is referring to a primary scientific or secondary scientific source. It occurs to me that we might do something similar to the &quot;this is a Stub&quot;reference in the English Wikipedia. Perhaps some kind of similar hypertext can be furnished so as to give a description of the project next to the actual project text, and that way the project can be described in detail (similarly to the way the User pages work). [[User:Joergel|Joergel]] 11:35, 14 September 2006 (UTC)


*Ask
a) Is it possible or not to operate in the context of the Wikiversity original research rubric?
b) In the meantime there is speculation from different sides, as to how the actual goal and function of the Wikiversity should be thought out. Wouldn't it be possible to set up a single space for this [discussion] with Frank Schulenberg as moderator (since he's the person who brought wikiversity to life in the first place)?

===6 ===
If we adopt the German suggestion (see [[#2 German]]) that each Wikiversity research project be allowed to adopt its own optimal research methods then '''all types''' of original research methods would be allowed at Wikiversity. We would then need to define  Wikiversity policies that will protect Wikiversity from all of the potential problems that would arise from allowing original research in a Wikimedia Foundation project. In particular, how do we prevent cranks from adding bogus research to Wikiversity and, in general, how does the Wikiversity community assure high-quality research? Does Wikiversity need a [[Wikiversity:Original research/En#Formal peer review|formal peer review system]] for original research? --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 11:49, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

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But what is bogus research? Who decides? Also, Germany has different classifications in the kinds of research - things like &quot;Grundlagenforschung&quot;, basic research that doesn't have to pay for itself and &quot;angewandte Forschung&quot;, applied research which often is just a name for research done for a company that is paying handsomely for a professor to say what they want.

Literature surveys can very well be research, as can putting together thoughts on any particular subject. For example, next year I am co-chairing a conference on computing and soceity. We want to have people put position papers in a wiki, change them if necessary before the conference, take notes during the conference, just in general produce a pile of interlinked text, then define a selection of pages and an order on the pages and automatically produce a book and a pdf to be offered for sale and for free online. That would be the production of knowledge, i.e. collecting ideas on topic X in one place.
We are installing our own version of MediaWiki because I am a bit leery of using the Wikiversity for this, but I do believe that this would be a great place to do this kind of research. --[[User:WiseWoman|WiseWoman]] 20:52, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

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in 2 -- german, I'm not clear on what is meant by literature &quot;reviews.&quot; There's a tremendous amount of work done in what used to be callled Literaturwissenschaft in the German-speaking countries, and so I can't imagine that this discussion is saying that literary scholarship isn't scholarship... can this be clarified?  --[[User:70.32.180.118|70.32.180.118]] 01:02, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
:Is &quot;Literature science&quot; a good translation of &quot;Literaturwissenschaft&quot;? What do you think about moving ahead with an attempt to figure out new policy for how Wikiversity could be open to essentially all types of research activities? I do not see that anyone has yet suggested that Wikiversity should prevent any particular type of research. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 03:15, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

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&quot;But what is bogus research? Who decides?&quot; &lt;-- A traditional method to decide on the quality of research is to make use of a peer review system. Every wiki automatically employs an informal type of peer review. However, the informal Wikimedia peer review process relies on citation of published sources. This traditional Wikimedia peer review process does not work for original research. I think peer review of research should involve a &quot;formal&quot; peer review system because the informal method that is typical of wiki-based peer review is not adequate for dealing with original research. In my opinion, devising a system for formal peer review of original research is what we need to do if we expect the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees to ever allow original research at Wikiversity. Also, I think we do need to think carefully about different types of research. The use of some research methods is simply not possible for Wikiversity participants. We should identify the types of research activities that make sense for Wikiversity. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 21:20, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

==== Research versus Publishing====
&quot;大膽假設, 小心求證&quot; (Daring in formulating hypothesis, careful in seeking proof).
''Research'' and ''publishing'' are two different processes.   ''Research'' is acquiring knowledge in any way one can find.  ''Publishing'' is communicating the new knowledge to the public.  I discuss them seperately.
*''Research'' -- I do not see much harm in total freedom, apart from wasting computer memory.  Even if a completely bogus group writes up some bogus material, they still need to pass the test of publishing.  
**University is a place for free speech.  The only boundary is the law.  On many university campi there are strange people who say strange things.  Sometimes they are misguided.  Sometimes they are clever.  Some folks are attracted to them;  others learn to avoid them.  It is everybody's freedom.  It does not mean that the university endorse them, unless they do so formally as faculty members.  A group which produces ''a study which may look dubious'' is not different.  They contribute to the diversity.--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 15:37, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

*''Publishing'' -- In the beginning, scholars in the wikiversity should publish their results in established scholarly journals.  That establishes the credibility of wikiversity.  After a long time - probably years - the scholars in wikiversity can have enough credibility to establish their own journals or pre-print archives or any publishing device.
**If some established scholars join the wikiversity and become active,  they can accelerate the above process.
--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 19:10, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
::Compare to [[#Academic journal entries?]], below. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 21:49, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

===Talk page?===
Um, is this the talk page or an article?--[[User:Rayc|Rayc]] 13:48, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
:This &quot;talk page&quot; is part of a multlingual discussion. We do the English language discussion on this page and we are supposed to post summaries of the discussions from this page on the [[Wikiversity:Scope of research/En|main English page]]. We can create additional pages to facilitate our discussions if needed. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 16:55, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
::Ok, it just looked like this had been pasted over with a non-talk page, since none of the stuff is signed.--[[User:Rayc|Rayc]] 05:16, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
:::&quot;pasted over with a non-talk page&quot; &lt;-- yes, that was the origin of this page. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 19:01, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
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=== 8. Academic journal entries? ===

Hello. A while back I founded a wikia for the purpose of writing academic journals (http://academia.wikia.com). My impression is that merging that project with this one would benefit both by expanding the scope of the Wikiversity project and generating significantly more attention to the wiki-based academic journals. It would also help to ensure that original research developed on Wikiversity would undergo a thorough peer-review process before being validated. I'm interested in people's opinions regarding such a proposal. [[User:Owen|Owen]] 19:18, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
:Compare to [[#Research versus Publishing]], above. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 21:51, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

::It's an obvious idea - but I'm very happy you've suggested it! I'd wholeheartedly endorse such a merge. [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] 19:38, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

:::Closer co-operation between the two wikia is important.  But I am not sure about merging.  It may be better to have an independent reviewer on the works of wikiversity.  At the moment, not all academic journals are published by universities.  Scholars cannot just publish their results on their school bulletins.---[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]-[[User talk:hillgentleman|User talk]] 00:44, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

===9. Thoughts ===

(originally posted on project page)

I appreciate the comments and discussion above. Basically, we need to outline a scope for research in Wikiversity which will be applicable to ''all'' projects - perhaps with 'editable' options for different projects, as usual - for the main reason that the setting of a research framework for Wikiversity ''as a whole'' is what we have been asked to do, by the [[m:Special projects committee]]. The reason for this is mainly that we are defining the scope of ''Wikiversity itself'' - does it involve &quot;learning materials, communities AND research&quot;, or simply &quot;learning materials and communities&quot;?

I agree with the German participants that defining research is problematic - and depends on the particular discipline. However, &quot;a methodical search for knowledge&quot; is a decent working definition. Research, whether it involves generating new data, revisting old data, and/or a reading of the literature, will hopefully, inevitably generate new knowledge.

If the research generates new conclusions, even if it is a review of the literature, it could still constitute &quot;original research&quot; [[w:Wikipedia:No original research|as defined on Wikipedia]]. Therefore, this type of research could be problematic for the Wikimedia community (something we need to be aware of throughout this discussion), unless we take some measures to manage this. Such measures could include a system of '''peer review''' - eg. that research would be authorised as &quot;published&quot;, only when it had been through a defined process of review (before which it is unpublished, and hence unfit for addition to an article on Wikipedia). This process still needs to be defined - and the basic question is: ''Can we define such a system as applicable to future smaller Wikiversities, that may not be able to gather the resources needed to manage such a process?'' Do we give each Wikiversity the option of either rejecting research entirely (if they feel that they would not be able to cope with it), or stating that once a team of, say, four reviewers were in place, then people could start submitting research? Are these people self-nominated? Who reviews the reviewers?

The other large set of questions are around allowing the ''doing of research'' within Wikiversity. In my opinion, this could be a central and driving force within Wikiversity - but it brings with it a number of issues. These include the central questions around &quot;human-subject research&quot;, ie: ''How do we ensure that people doing research conform to ethical guidelines for doing research, and how do we avoid getting sued if they don't?'' Is this also to be monitored and/or approved by a team of reviewers? Universities have written guidelines around research, have an [[w:Institutional review board|institutional review board]], and often have a system of mandatory police-checking for people doing, for example, research on children. Is this something that Wikiversity can manage? My feeling about police-checking is &quot;no&quot; - otherwise I feel we should do our best to facilitate and monitor research to be done within Wikiversity.

Apologies for this long-winded and possibly difficult-to-translate post. Essentially, I think we need to define what particular ''dangers'' there are in allowing research to become a part of Wikiversity, and drawing up a framework for accepting and dealing with the various aspects of research - as I believe we should do. Thanks. [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] 19:08, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

:'''human-subject research'''. It might be possible to make a distinction between different types of human-subject research. Human-subject research that would normally be monitored by an Institutional Review Board has inherent privacy and other legal issues associated with it. I do not see how Wikiversity participants should become involved with such research unless it was through some kind of collaboration with a bricks-and-mortar institution that had an IRB. Some social science research that could be conducted within the restrictions of the Wikimedia Foundation privacy policy should be possible for Wikiversity participants. &quot;'''Who reviews the reviewers'''&quot; &lt;-- In the absence of credentials, all we have is the public record of editing by Wikiversity participants. Under those conditions, a research result cannot have much credibility if it exists in isolation from an active research community. Research activities are validated by a network of peers who develop and test methods and ideas over an extended period of time. And even if a particular research community can establish its credibility, each research result should ideally be confirmed by independent investigators. Ultimately, an open content research community should be able to attain high levels of credibility. If every step of the research process takes place in the open and is guided by strict ethical guidelines, methodological problems and other deficiencies should eventually be revealed and corrected. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 02:55, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

:'''Review process:'''  There can be no short cut - either you find an expert in the field, whose judgement is trusted by the general public, or you don't publish.  Researchers in smaller wikiversities can try to find their own reviewers or post a notice on some larger wikiversities, or on beta.  In its formation years, Wikiversity may very well ask her researchers to publish in established journals.  ---[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]-[[User talk:hillgentleman|User talk]] 11:08, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

::I think we need to make a clear distinction between &quot;conventional publishing&quot; and &quot;wiki publishing&quot;. Until about six years ago you could have made the dogmatic statement that before you could publish an encyclopedia you had to hire experts to write and review encyclopedia articles. With the use of wiki technology comes a new approach to publishing: publish first and then review what has been published. For the publication of original research, it is possible to develop a [http://academia.wikia.com/wiki/Example_of_a_preliminary_draft publishing model] in which &quot;preliminary drafts&quot; are released for peer review. The question then becomes, can you build a community of collaborators who can carry out formal peer reviews and establish the wiki publishing effort as a legitimate source of published research results. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 16:00, 21 November 2006 (UTC) 

:::''Pre-prints'' are widely used in science.  They are circulated but not considered published.  On the theoretical physics and mathematics [http://arxiv.org arXiv], there is an ''endorsement'' procedure (old and trusted authors endorsing new authours) and some informal reviewings.  Many people consider an article on arXiv as ''semi-published''.  Wikiversity may learn from this model.--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]-[[User talk:hillgentleman|User talk]] 22:12, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
:::In general, ''pre-prints'' are important because more research is done than can ever be reviewed.  Scholars use their reputations to guarentee the unreviewed works.  This situation is likely to appear in wikiversity.--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]-[[User talk:hillgentleman|User talk]] 00:34, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

:::''Wiki-publishing''----  What is the difference between  ''wiki-published'' and ''unpublished''?     An article is either finished or it is still being developed.  Something is either true, untrue or uncertain.    I do not consider a  disputed article on Wikipedia as published.   I may still use its information, but only with care.--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]-[[User talk:hillgentleman|User talk]] 15:29, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
:::We need a definition for '''wiki-publishing'''.---[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|User talk]] 10:33, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
::::Two key aspects of wiki publishing are an emphasis on distributed, collaborative authoring and the fact that documents can be easily altered and revised. Before electronic publishing, certain habits and cultures developed in publishing because of the expense of printing and the fact that once documents are printed it is very hard to adjust/correct/modify them. I expect that along with electronic publishing in general, wiki publishing will see the creation of a new type of publishing culture: less emphasis on up-front peer review prior to publishing and more emphasis on people's reactions to what is published and the modification of what was previously published. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 18:02, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::*''easier collaborative writing''  -- I can understand, even when the authorship is restricted to a small group.
:::::*''less emphasis on up-front peer review prior to publishing'' -- I cannot see how this is possible.  When one publishes a paper, he vouches for the truth of it.  We do not publish anything for which we are uncertain.  It is because an academic paper is similar to an ''Act'' of the Parliament (thus the name of the journal [[w:sv:Acta Mathematica]]): ''an academic paper is a historical record''.  It forms the basis for subsequent works.  It lasts for centuries.  What Euclid and Achimedes wrote we now still read.  In short, one does not publish until one is absolutely certain, and the peer review is a guarentee for the correctness and accuracy of the results.  ---[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|User talk]] 20:07, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

::::::You mentioned a need to define ''Wiki-publishing'', but you seem unwilling to accept any difference between traditional print publishing and ''Wiki-publishing''. You could take the position that ''Wiki-publishing'' must follow the same as traditional print publishing, but that would be like trying to make a rule that trucks, trains and planes cannot travel faster than a horse. It would be an interesting exercise to go back into the scientific literature of 50 years ago and see how many published articles were &quot;correct&quot;. Peer review is not a guarantee of correctness. The way to be sure that a published research result is correct is for people to look at it, test it and obtain similar results, hopefully using additional methods not used in the original report. Publishing should not be a big deal. It is more important if others can constructively build upon what has been published. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 01:30, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

*What is Wiki-publishing?--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|User talk]] 01:38, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

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===10. Back to the Scope===
Wikiversity should write policies for:
'''Possible Original research areas:''' Arts, physical sciences, computer sciences, history, humanities, languages, social sciences, all researches that can be done with pencil and paper;
but excluding
'''Doubful areas:''' some branches of life sciences, medicine,  researches that require a lot of money(?),  researches that require a lot of beauraucracy
---[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]-[[User talk:hillgentleman|User talk]] 11:19, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

:We could create a list of types of research activity and rank the types according to how easy it would be to carry out that type of research within Wikiversity. There are some types of research that seem very easy to incorporate in to the wiki format, such as literature reviews, analysis of the contents of public data bases and research into the dynamics of online communities. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 15:25, 21 November 2006 (UTC)


===11.  What about external research? ===

In the spanish [http://es.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikilibros:Caf%C3%A9 wikibooks] there are two open discussions about this ([http://es.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikilibros:Caf%C3%A9#.C2.BFDonde_van_las_tesis.3F], [http://es.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikilibros:Caf%C3%A9#Sugerencias_a_las_pol.C3.ADticas]), and I have been redirected here to look for some inspiration. What do we do with original research (including thesis works) that was done externally, and afterwards licensed under the GFDL? Does it belong in wikisource? In wikibooks? In wikiversity? Nowhere in wikimedia? As the popularity of non-wikipedia projects keeps growing, I'm sure this kind of offers will increase in number. -- [[User:4lex|4lex]] 13:36, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
:Wikisource will accept a &quot;thesis or dissertation approved by a recognized academic institution&quot;. One thing that Wikiversity can explore is systems for publication of research using a formal peer review system. Textbooks should go into Wikibooks.

:The original Wikiversity project proposal said: &quot;The purpose of the Wikiversity project, which will ultimately reside at www.wikiversity.org, is to build an electronic institution of learning that will be used to test the limits of the wiki model both for developing electronic learning resources as well as for teaching and '''for conducting research and publishing results''' (within a policy framework developed by the community).&quot;

:Some ideas about how it might be possible to do formal peer review of research in a wiki environment is discussed at [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Review_board Wikiversity:Review board]. If such a system were established, it could involve contributors from &quot;external&quot; sources. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 03:59, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

::My gut feeling on where research belongs would be more in Wikiversity than Wikisource - even though, as John says, Wikisource does accept approved dissertations. However, since we are allowing for a wider range/scope of research than any other project, it seems logical to centralise this as much as possible in Wikiversity - developing systems of peer review as we go along. [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] 02:32, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

'''NOTICE'''. [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Open_Access_chat IRC meeting]] about how open source publishing relates to WikiMedia Foundation projects. ([http://scireview.de/wiki/openaccess/channel.log log])--[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 17:14, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

===12. Reinventing the wheel? ===

I don't see the point of any of this 'wiki-research' stuff.  If the research is on par with other scientific research, then you should have no problem getting it published with pre-existing peer-reviewed scientific journals (including the openacccess ones).  Failing that, you could at least have the research become notable via popularity, then it would still be includable.  

What purpose does it serve to overthrow a time tested process of peer review to create a half-assed, ad hoc, incomplete wiki research method?  Where's the benefit?  IF you want to use a wiki to collaborate on in-progress research, that's fine, but there are already wikis for that.  What's being suggested here is that you can take something you created on your own, get it reviewed by some experts (Whose &quot;expert criteria&quot; is unspecified&quot;) and just stick it on here.  The only reason for doing this is by having wikimedia people who aren't true experts review things to get them more easily approved.

So far it seems like people think it's a good idea because the proposals are so vague.  So far, original research is the only difference between this and wikibooks.  '''Could someone please outline to me, speicficially, how research would go from start to finish and how it would be better than publishing in an openaccess journal with a side wiki for colloboration (which already exist)?'''

Let's get down to something more fundamental.  It would be hard to argue that there is one thing that all univerisities have--professors who teach students (INTERACTIVELY).  This wouldn't exist.  It would just be textbooks.  It would be a nice idea to have a model organized with volunteer professors, but it would a) require a more cumbersome non-wiki  model to screen professors and b) would require violating NPOV.

[[User:Njyoder|Njyoder]] 04:51, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

:*First of all, there's no inherent intention here of overthrowing any existing model with any other model - &quot;half-assed&quot; or not. The point of allowing research to be conducted and/or published within Wikiversity would be to allow people to learn about the process of doing research, and to get some practical experience of this. It would also allow people to add a paper that they were not yet comfortable with submitting to a separate peer-reviewed journal. I think there is tremendous learning value in that as it is. However, this is not to say that Wikiversity would be a &quot;poor relation&quot; of any other research space - with a research community of sufficient rigour and energy, it ''could'' become a desirable space for researchers, and reach (or possibly even surpass) the standard of other publications. The only reason that this is not the case is that the community for it to happen has not yet explicitly formed.
:*Wikiversity is not simply &quot;Wikibooks plus original research&quot;. There is a lot more to education than textbooks. For example, Wikiversity intends to form and facilitate learning communities around themes/interests/levels etc - this will be the &quot;interactive&quot; learning that you refer to (and that happens in most learning environments these days). I'm not sure if I understand you correctly that you think this will not be the case on Wikiversity? There are already educators of many backgrounds - including professors - who are donating their time to Wikiversity.
:*What &quot;vague&quot; research proposals are you referring to? Are you referring to research projects/proposals on the English Wikiversity? As for giving a start to finish outline of a research project, this is almost impossible to generalise upon. Each research project would be a specific one, with specific questions, participants, methods, theoretical underpinnings, intended outcomes, etc. Specifying a single methodology would be impossible due to the divergence of perspectives and paradigms around doing research.
:*On NPOV - if you haven't already, see en:Wikiversity's pages on [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Disclosures Disclosures] and [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Scholarly_ethics Scholarly ethics].
:*Overall though, I agree that there's not much at present to prove that we can do research well here on Wikiversity - however, with good guidelines and an active community, there's no real reason, I believe, that it can't be. [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] 17:46, 23 January 2007 (UTC)


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==See also==
*[[Wikiversity:Research/En|Research]] - Source documents concerning research within Wikiversity
*[[Wikiversity:Secondary research/En|Secondary research]] - research into a topic using the method of literature review
*[[Wikiversity:Original research/En|Original research]] - unpublished research into a topic using literature review and/or methods in addition to literature review
*[http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity_translations Wikiversity translations] - project to support translations of policy discussions.
*[[Wikiversity:Research guidelines|Research guidelines]] - Main page; what rules are needed to assure that only high quality, scholarly research activities take place?
*[[Wikiversity:Research guidelines/En|Research guidelines]] - English language page; Wikiversity policy to replace [[:en:w:Wikipedia:No original research|No original research]] (NOR).

==Reading==
*[http://it.stlawu.edu/~tbudd/litrev.html The Literature Review] by Dr. Thomas Budd
*[http://www.indiana.edu/~cheminfo/C471/471pubproc.html Primary, Secondary, and Tertiary Sources] by Gary Wiggins
*[http://ec.hku.hk/acadgrammar/report/resProc/research.htm Primary and Secondary research] - in the context of social science research
*[http://www.nature.com/nature/webmatters/invisible/invisible.html The invisible hand of peer review] by Steven Harnad
*[http://bjp.rcpsych.org/cgi/content/abstract/176/1/47 Open peer review: a randomised controlled trial] by Elizabeth Walsh, et al
*[http://academia.wikia.com/wiki/Wiki_Journal Wiki Journal] - Peer-reviewed publishing in a wiki environment.
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[[Category:Research]]</text>
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''Pour une version plus détaillée (en anglais) à propos de cette fonction, consulter [[m:Meta:Language select|Meta:Language select]].''


L''''[[m:Meta:Language select|affichage par sélection selon la langue]]''' permet aux utilisateurs de masquer, sur une page multilingue, les informations qui ne sont pas dans leur langue. Il permet, par exemple, à un Français de ne voir que du texte en français sur une page contenant des paragraphes en français et en espagnol. Par contre, si la page ne contient que de l'espagnol, le texte s'affichera.

== Choisir sa langue ==

* Pour choisir une langue, entrer son [[List of ISO 639-1 codes|code ISO 639-1]] dans la boîte de saisie ((&lt;code&gt;fr&lt;/code&gt; pour le français), et cliquer sur &lt;big&gt;➤&lt;/big&gt;.

* Pour afficher toutes les langues, taper &lt;code&gt;mul&lt;/code&gt; ou cliquer sur &lt;big&gt;⋙&lt;/big&gt;.

== Utilisation ==
&lt;!--
=== Identifier les pages multilingues ===
Les pages multilingues sont reconnaissables au modèle {{tl|multilingual}} qui leur est apposé.
--&gt;
=== JavaScript ===

L'implémentation en JavaScript est activée par défaut sur Wikiversity Beta. Vous pouvez la desactiver en ajoutant la ligne suivante à votre [[Special:Mypage/monobook.js|monobook.js]]
&lt;pre&gt;ls_enable = false;&lt;/pre&gt;

Un exemple du script est disponible ci-dessous. Si l'affichage par sélection selon la langue est desactivé, tout le texte apparaîtra.

&lt;div class=&quot;multilingual&quot;&gt;
{{ls|de|Dieser Text ist Deutsch.}}
{{ls|en|This text is English.}}
{{ls|fr|Ce texte est Français.}}
{{ls|pt|Este texto está em Português.}}
{{ls|sc|Custu testu est in Sardu.}}
{{ls|la|Haec nota Latine scriptus est.}}
{{ls|zh|中文.}}
&lt;/div&gt;

Vous pouvez voir le code JavaScript sur [{{fullurl:MediaWiki:Monobook.js|action=render}} MediaWiki:Monobook.js].

== Délimiter les informations selon la langue ==

Le modèle {{tl|ls}} simplifie l'utilisation de la sélection selon la langue.

&lt;pre&gt;{{ls|fr|Ce texte est en français.}}
&lt;/pre&gt;


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        <username>Erkan Yilmaz</username>
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&lt;!--========== PLEASE EDIT BELOW ===========--&gt;

== Some news / Quelques infos ==

Hello. The ''[[Help:Contents|Help]]'' section has been opened. Feel free to browse it (especially the [[Help:FAQ]]) and to ask questions if you have some. You can also see the ''[[Wikiversity:Reports|reports]]'' section from separate projects. 

Hola. Ya se ha creado la sección de ''[[Help:Contents|ayuda]]''. Siéntete libre para consultarla (especialmente las [[Help:FAQ|preguntas frecuentes]]), así como para formular preguntas si te quedan dudas. También puedes ver los ''[[Wikiversity:Reports/Es|informes]] de los proyectos separados.

Bonjour. La section ''[[Help:Contents|Aide]]'' a été ouverte. N'hésitez pas à la consulter, en particulier la [[Help:FAQ|foire aux questions]], et à poser les vôtres. Vous pouvez aussi consulter les ''[[Wikiversity:Reports|rapports]]'' provenant des projets séparés. [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 09:28, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Hallo. Der ''[[Help:Contents|Hilfe]]''-Bereich wurde eröffnet. Viel Spaß beim Durchstöbern (besonders die [[Help:FAQ|Hilfe:FAQ]]) und Fragen stellen, sofern es welche gibt. Du kannst dir auch den ''[[Wikiversity:Reports|Report]]''-Bereich anderer Projekte anschauen.

Merhaba. ''[[Help:Contents|Yardim]]'' bölümü hizmetinizde. Inceleyip sorularinizi iletebilirsiniz. Ayrica ''[[Wikiversity:Reports|raporlar]]'' bölümünü de diger projeler icin inceleyebilirsiniz.

== Scope of research ==
Hi, it seems to me that the [[Wikiversity:Scope of research]] page, its tak page, and the various language pages and their talk pages have partially been messed up. At least there are some strange redirects, between name spaces which I do not understand. Also it has meanwhile become unclear to me, where I should add to the discussion going on. If it is all meant to be as it is, I don't understand it at all. Particularly the light blue page seems to be an disorganized a mess.

&lt;small&gt;''The rest of this comment has been moved by [[User:Guillom|guillom]] to [[Wikiversity talk:Scope of research/En#Purodha's comments]]''&lt;/small&gt;

--[[User:Purodha|Purodha]] 23:44, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

:This is how the [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism|multilingual discussion system]] works. This system is an experiment. You are free to propose a more efficient system if you have some ideas. [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 09:21, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

::I do not even understand how it is meant to work. I see hardly anyone using it. I see an unorganized mess of pages and statements, and over few days, apparently noone around who could repair and organize it. Since  as it currently is, symmetry between languages appears violated, it's either not used as intended, or intended in a way which strongly disagree with. --[[User:Purodha|Purodha]] 11:40, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
:::I don't see anything to repair. All is explained in [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism]]. There is one [[Wikiversity:Scope of research|coordination page]] which links to summaries in different languages. Those summaries result from discussions that happened between people speaking the same language. So please be more specific about what you don't understand. [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 12:06, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
:::::Ok I give up. This system is not working for me, likely by design then. There is a mix of unrelated stuff and tons of links linking to 'no real information' so I do not find the real diskussion, I do not find the supposely existing short summaries, but mixtures of those, I do not find out what relates to which, and I cannot tell how to sort things, only that stuff intermingled as I find it, is desorganized. Being a person who usually understands structures quite well and effordlessly, I believe this is flawed and likely not workable for others, too. --[[User:Purodha|Purodha]] 16:54, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
::::::What a pity you decide to resign! I don't understand why you just can't tell what the problem is, so as to fix things. People taking part in discussions seems to understand how it works, and all I ask you is to tell me what you don't understand so I can help you and improve the system. [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 16:26, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
:::::::&quot;Teacher, ''firmly'': 'Now as the term is almost over, are there any questions left?' Pupil, ''hesitant'': '…&amp;nbsp;yes, please, Sir, could you please explain what you've been talking about all this long time?' Audience: ''Laugh''&quot; … The problem is, there is no base for questions, [[Wikiversity talk:Multilingualism]] I cannot translate the page as it is not making enough sense, lacks clarity, and seems to propose (in part) something which would obviously not work, and its supposed sample, [[Wikiversity:Scope of research]], seems not set up or working as described, or I am just too stupid to get the hang of it. --[[User:Purodha|Purodha]] 17:14, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

== Multiligual vs. language specific Wikiversities ==
Why do we not pool our ressources and have only one Wikiversity web site, offering content in various languages? --[[User:Purodha|Purodha]] 11:40, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
:Beta is a coordination platform and thus needs to be multilingual. But hosting content in different languages would be impossible. All Wikimedia projects are separated by languages. Interwiki links exist to link similar pages together. [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 12:06, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

:None of that is true, or working.
::* Hosting content in different languages is possible. In fact, as I read somewhere, Beta Wikiversity is set up to host content in all languages but German and English. (Though I doubt meanwhile, that intention is there, to really do that)
::* Technically, there is no problem to host content in many languages under one common domain; about a dozen wikies do just that, possibly more, which I might not be aware of.
::* This is not a coordination site. Sorry to say that. The English language Wikiversity is coordinating itself, likely the German too. Here you find about a dozen scattered statements on [[Wikiversity:Scope of research]] while the en.wikiversity.org has several dozen ''long content pages'' on the subject, and a multitude of that of discussion. Bluntly said, they create Wikiversity, put it under typical anglocentric rules and ignore the rest of the world, as usual. If this were a true coordination site, all the materials on [[Wikiversity:Scope of research]] had to be here, not there.
::* If true intention was to create a Wikiversity of all languages, and to simply distribute pages of several languages over subdomains and interwiki link them, then such interwiki links would have to work. But they don't. 
::* Nearly noone is doing anything here. I did not edit much, but a considerable amount of the recent changes of the last days have my user name. This demonstrates clearly, neither Wikiversity makers writing German, nor Wikiversity makers of the English language care to cooperate, and other language writers seem not willing to start their content here. At least I have not seen any yet.
:So I come to the conclusion that this is likely an alibi wiki, set up promote anglocentric, possibly christianocentric, views of the world and ways of acting, while presenting a place to point others to, that is neither equipped, nor meant, to be working. --[[User:Purodha|Purodha]] 16:54, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

::Ok, I'll try to answer your remarks in order.
::*''In fact, as I read somewhere, Beta Wikiversity is set up to host content in all languages but German and English.''
:::This is not true. Beta Wikiversity has been set up to be a coordination platform and to host content in languages &lt;u&gt;which do not have a dedicated subdomain yet&lt;/u&gt;.
::*''Technically, there is no problem to host content in many languages under one common domain; about a dozen wikies do just that.''
:::May I ask you which Wikimedia projects are doing this? (except for WiktionaryZ, which requires this cohabitation ''per se'').
::*''Here you find about a dozen scattered statements on [[Wikiversity:Scope of research]] while the en.wikiversity.org has several dozen ''long content pages'' on the subject, and a multitude of that of discussion.''
:::The English-language Wikiversity was set up before Beta. Moreover, I think all the pages you're talking about were imported from Wikibooks and clearly need cleanup. According to the Board resolution, the decisions made on Beta will concern &lt;u&gt;all&lt;/u&gt; Wikiversity projects, and that's why I've been inviting everybody to join discussions on Beta.
::*''Bluntly said, they create Wikiversity, put it under typical anglocentric rules and ignore the rest of the world, as usual.''
:::This is coarse and, of course, false. But I guess it's easier to criticize than to improve things.
::*''If true intention was to create a Wikiversity of all languages, and to simply distribute pages of several languages over subdomains and interwiki link them, then such interwiki links would have to work. But they don't.''
:::We have requested the set up of interwiki links on bugzilla since August 24th ([[bugzilla:7117]]).
::*''Nearly noone is doing anything here.''
:::When people realize that they cannot run any research because they haven't taken the time to think about guidelines, they will feel concerned. We cannot force people to take part in discussions. 
::*''This demonstrates clearly, neither Wikiversity makers writing German, nor Wikiversity makers of the English language care to cooperate''
:::This is bitterly unfair for [[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] and [[User:Frank Schulenburg|Frank Schulenburg]] (for example), who have worked a lot on Beta.
::*''So I come to the conclusion that this is likely an alibi wiki, set up promote anglocentric, possibly christianocentric, views of the world and ways of acting,''
:::Coarse again, false again. I am neither English nor a churchgoer, and this is just another gratuitious attack.
::In a nutshell, I don't see why you seem to be so frustrated and polemist, because you used to seem interested in taking part in Beta development. [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 16:26, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

:::Some answers, unsorted :-)
:::*''why you seem to be so frustrated and polemist'' - possibly I had a bad day.
:::*''The English-language Wikiversity was set up before Beta. Moreover, I think all the pages you're talking about were imported from Wikibooks and clearly need cleanup. According to the Board resolution, the decisions made on Beta will concern &lt;u&gt;all&lt;/u&gt; Wikiversity projects, and that's why I've been inviting everybody to join discussions on Beta.'' - Good. I did not know of any of that. That means, the useful parts, if there are any, should be copied to Beta.
:::*''We have requested the set up of interwiki links''&amp;nbsp;… - Ok, from experience, I know, that is slow. (Will try again next year)
:::*''This is bitterly unfair for [[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] and [[User:Frank Schulenburg|Frank Schulenburg]] (for example), who have worked a lot on Beta.'' - I was not at all wanting to put anybody down! The contrary is true, of course, my paise to all who do do something here, I only was to saye, we are few in numbers (of edits, and of persons) that is all.
:::* Indeed I percieve the [http://wikimedia-foundation.org Wikimedia Foundation] as anglocentric. I am not saying this to put a blame on them. It is just a fact of my percpetion. I assume that other percieve me as - I don't know what, centered to my historic roots, e.g. - and I don't mind. It is likely so.
:::have to go. --[[User:Purodha|Purodha]] 17:45, 16 September 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <comment>as in wikiversity:multilingualism</comment>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;position:absolute; z-index:100; right:10px; top:10px;&quot; class=&quot;icone de titre&quot;&gt;
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&lt;div style=&quot;position: absolute; top: 0px; left: 0px; font-size: 100px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 100px; z-index: 3; font-size:150pt;&quot;&gt;[[Wikiversity:Language select|&lt;span title=&quot;Wikiversity:Language select&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;position: absolute; top: 0px; left: 0px; z-index: 2&quot;&gt;[[Image:Erioll world.svg|25px|Wikiversity:Language select]]&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;includeonly&gt;
[[Category:Page allowing language selection]]&lt;/includeonly&gt;
&lt;noinclude&gt;
[[Category:Wikiversity:Multilingualism template]]&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Category:Page allowing language selection</title>
    <id>1707</id>
    <revision>
      <id>3106</id>
      <timestamp>2006-09-18T16:47:58Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Jon Harald Søby</username>
        <id>74</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div class=&quot;multilingual&quot;&gt;
{{ls|en|Pages in this category contain multilingual content and allow [[Wikiversity:language select/En|language selection]].}}
{{ls|fr|Les pages de cette catégorie contiennent du contenu multilingue et autorisent l'[[Wikiversity:language select/Fr|affichage par sélection de la langue]].}}
{{ls|no|Sidene i denne kategorien har støtte for flerspråklighet, og bruker [[Wikiversity:Language select/No|språkvalg]].}}
{{ls|ksh|Sigge en dä Saachjropp hee hann enne [[Wikiversity:language select/Ksh|Shproochewaal]] drop un dänne ier Ennhald_eß fillshproochėsh.}}
{{ls|pt|As páginas desta categoria contem materiais em diversos idiomas e permitem a [[Wikiversity:language select|seleção de um idioma]].}}
&lt;/div&gt;

[[Category:Pages by language]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>List of ISO 639-1 codes</title>
    <id>1708</id>
    <revision>
      <id>2493</id>
      <timestamp>2006-09-02T21:11:12Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Guillom</username>
        <id>4</id>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <comment>* '''[[Wikiversity:Language select]]''' en haut</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">* '''[[Wikiversity:Language select]]'''

&lt;center&gt;
{| class=&quot;wikitable&quot;
|- style=&quot;background-color: #efefef;&quot;
!639-1!!Language name!!Native name
|-
|aa||[[wikipedia:Afar language|Afar]]||lang=&quot;aa&quot;|Afaraf
|-
|ab||[[wikipedia:Abkhaz language|Abkhazian]]||lang=&quot;ab&quot;|Аҧсуа
|-
|ae||[[wikipedia:Avestan language|Avestan]]||lang=&quot;ae&quot;|avesta
|-
|af||[[wikipedia:Afrikaans|Afrikaans]]||lang=&quot;af&quot;|Afrikaans
|-
|ak||[[wikipedia:Akan languages|Akan]]||lang=&quot;ak&quot;|Akan
|-
|am||[[wikipedia:Amharic language|Amharic]]||lang=&quot;am&quot;|አማርኛ
|-
|an||[[wikipedia:Aragonese language|Aragonese]]||lang=&quot;an&quot;|Aragonés
|-
|ar||[[wikipedia:Arabic language|Arabic]]||lang=&quot;ar&quot;|&lt;span style=&quot;direction:rtl&quot;&gt;‫العربية‬&lt;/span&gt;
|-
|as||[[wikipedia:Assamese language|Assamese]]||lang=&quot;as&quot;|অসমীয়া
|-
|av||[[wikipedia:Avar language|Avaric]]||lang=&quot;av&quot;|авар мацӀ; магӀарул мацӀ
|-
|ay||[[wikipedia:Aymara language|Aymara]]||lang=&quot;ay&quot;|aymar aru
|-
|az||[[wikipedia:Azerbaijani language|Azerbaijani]]||lang=&quot;az&quot;|azərbaycan dili
|-
|ba||[[wikipedia:Bashkir language|Bashkir]]||lang=&quot;ba&quot;|башҡорт теле
|-
|be||[[wikipedia:Belarusian language|Belarusian]]||lang=&quot;be&quot;|Беларуская
|-
|bg||[[wikipedia:Bulgarian language|Bulgarian]]||lang=&quot;bg&quot;|български език
|-
|bh||[[wikipedia:Bihari languages|Bihari]]||lang=&quot;bh&quot;|भोजपुरी
|-
|bi||[[wikipedia:Bislama language|Bislama]]||lang=&quot;bi&quot;|Bislama
|-
|bm||[[wikipedia:Bambara language|Bambara]]||lang=&quot;bm&quot;|bamanankan
|-
|bn||[[wikipedia:Bengali language|Bengali]]||lang=&quot;bn&quot;|বাংলা
|-
|bo||[[wikipedia:Tibetan language|Tibetan]]||lang=&quot;bo&quot;|བོད་ཡིག
|-
|br||[[wikipedia:Breton language|Breton]]||lang=&quot;br&quot;|brezhoneg
|-
|bs||[[wikipedia:Bosnian language|Bosnian]]||lang=&quot;bs&quot;|bosanski jezik
|-
|ca||[[wikipedia:Catalan language|Catalan]]||lang=&quot;ca&quot;|Català
|-
|ce||[[wikipedia:Chechen language|Chechen]]||lang=&quot;ce&quot;|нохчийн мотт
|-
|ch||[[wikipedia:Chamorro language|Chamorro]]||lang=&quot;ch&quot;|Chamoru
|-
|co||[[wikipedia:Corsican language|Corsican]]||lang=&quot;co&quot;|corsu; lingua corsa
|-
|cr||[[wikipedia:Cree language|Cree]]||lang=&quot;cr&quot;|ᓀᐦᐃᔭᐍᐏᐣ
|-
|cs||[[wikipedia:Czech language|Czech]]||lang=&quot;cs&quot;|česky; čeština
|-
|cu||[[wikipedia:Old Church Slavonic|Church Slavic]]||
|-
|cv||[[wikipedia:Chuvash language|Chuvash]]||lang=&quot;cv&quot;|чӑваш чӗлхи
|-
|cy||[[wikipedia:Welsh language|Welsh]]||lang=&quot;cy&quot;|Cymraeg
|-
|da||[[wikipedia:Danish language|Danish]]||lang=&quot;da&quot;|dansk
|-
|de||[[wikipedia:German language|German]]||lang=&quot;de&quot;|Deutsch
|-
|dv||[[wikipedia:Dhivehi language|Divehi]]||lang=&quot;dv&quot;|&lt;span style=&quot;direction:rtl&quot;&gt;‫ދިވެހި‬&lt;/span&gt;
|-
|dz||[[wikipedia:Dzongkha language|Dzongkha]]||lang=&quot;dz&quot;|རྫོང་ཁ
|-
|ee||[[wikipedia:Ewe language|Ewe]]||lang=&quot;ee&quot;|Ɛʋɛgbɛ
|-
|el||[[wikipedia:Greek language|Greek]]||lang=&quot;el&quot;|Ελληνικά
|-
|en||[[wikipedia:English language|English]]||lang=&quot;en&quot;|English
|-
|eo||[[wikipedia:Esperanto|Esperanto]]||lang=&quot;eo&quot;|Esperanto
|-
|es||[[wikipedia:Spanish language|Spanish]]||lang=&quot;es&quot;|español; castellano
|-
|et||[[wikipedia:Estonian language|Estonian]]||lang=&quot;et&quot;|Eesti keel
|-
|eu||[[wikipedia:Basque language|Basque]]||lang=&quot;eu&quot;|euskara
|-
|fa||[[wikipedia:Persian language|Persian]]||lang=&quot;fa&quot;|&lt;span style=&quot;direction:rtl&quot;&gt;‫فارسی‬&lt;/span&gt;
|-
|ff||[[wikipedia:Fula language|Fulah]]||lang=&quot;ff&quot;|Fulfulde
|-
|fi||[[wikipedia:Finnish language|Finnish]]||lang=&quot;fi&quot;|Suomen kieli
|-
|fj||[[wikipedia:Fijian language|Fijian]]||lang=&quot;fj&quot;|vosa Vakaviti
|-
|fo||[[wikipedia:Faroese language|Faroese]]||lang=&quot;fo&quot;|Føroyskt
|-
|fr||[[wikipedia:French language|French]]||lang=&quot;fr&quot;|français; langue française
|-
|fy||[[wikipedia:West Frisian language|Western Frisian]]||lang=&quot;fy&quot;|Frysk
|-
|ga||[[wikipedia:Irish language|Irish]]||lang=&quot;ga&quot;|Gaeilge
|-
|gd||[[wikipedia:Goidelic languages|Gaelic]]||lang=&quot;gd&quot;|Gàidhlig
|-
|gl||[[wikipedia:Galician language|Galician]]||lang=&quot;gl&quot;|Galego
|-
|gn||[[wikipedia:Guaraní language|Guaraní]]||lang=&quot;gn&quot;|Avañe'ẽ
|-
|gu||[[wikipedia:Gujarati language|Gujarati]]||lang=&quot;gu&quot;|ગુજરાતી
|-
|gv||[[wikipedia:Manx language|Manx]]||lang=&quot;gv&quot;|Ghaelg
|-
|ha||[[wikipedia:Hausa language|Hausa]]||lang=&quot;ha&quot;|&lt;span style=&quot;direction:rtl&quot;&gt;‫هَوُسَ‬&lt;/span&gt;
|-
|he||[[wikipedia:Hebrew language|Hebrew]]||lang=&quot;he&quot;|&lt;span style=&quot;direction:rtl&quot;&gt;‫עברית‬&lt;/span&gt;
|-
|hi||[[wikipedia:Hindi|Hindi]]||lang=&quot;hi&quot;|हिन्दी
|-
|ho||[[wikipedia:Hiri Motu language|Hiri Motu]]||lang=&quot;ho&quot;|Hiri Motu
|-
|hr||[[wikipedia:Croatian language|Croatian]]||lang=&quot;hr&quot;|Hrvatski
|-
|ht||[[wikipedia:Haitian Creole language|Haitian]]||lang=&quot;ht&quot;|Kreyòl ayisyen
|-
|hu||[[wikipedia:Hungarian language|Hungarian]]||lang=&quot;hu&quot;|Magyar
|-
|hy||[[wikipedia:Armenian language|Armenian]]||lang=&quot;hy&quot;|Հայերեն
|-
|hz||[[wikipedia:Herero language|Herero]]||lang=&quot;hz&quot;|Otjiherero
|-
|ia||[[wikipedia:Interlingua|Interlingua]]||lang=&quot;ia&quot;|Interlingua
|-
|id||[[wikipedia:Indonesian language|Indonesian]]||lang=&quot;id&quot;|Bahasa Indonesia
|-
|ie||[[wikipedia:Interlingue language|Interlingue]]||lang=&quot;ie&quot;|Interlingue
|-
|ig||[[wikipedia:Igbo language|Igbo]]||lang=&quot;ig&quot;|Igbo
|-
|ii||[[wikipedia:Yi language|Sichuan Yi]]||lang=&quot;ii&quot;|ꆇꉙ
|-
|ik||[[wikipedia:Inupiaq language|Inupiaq]]||lang=&quot;ik&quot;|Iñupiaq; Iñupiatun
|-
|io||[[wikipedia:Ido]]||lang=&quot;io&quot;|Ido
|-
|is||[[wikipedia:Icelandic language|Icelandic]]||lang=&quot;is&quot;|Íslenska
|-
|it||[[wikipedia:Italian language|Italian]]||lang=&quot;it&quot;|Italiano
|-
|iu||[[wikipedia:Inuktitut|Inuktitut]]||lang=&quot;iu&quot;|ᐃᓄᒃᑎᑐᑦ
|-
|ja||[[wikipedia:Japanese language|Japanese]]||lang=&quot;ja&quot;|日本語 (にほんご)
|-
|jv||[[wikipedia:Javanese language|Javanese]]||lang=&quot;jv&quot;|basa Jawa
|-
|ka||[[wikipedia:Georgian language|Georgian]]||lang=&quot;ka&quot;|ქართული
|-
|kg||[[wikipedia:Kongo language|Kongo]]||lang=&quot;kg&quot;|KiKongo
|-
|ki||[[wikipedia:Gikuyu language|Kikuyu]]||lang=&quot;ki&quot;|Gĩkũyũ
|-
|kj||[[wikipedia:Kwanyama|Kuanyama]]||lang=&quot;kj&quot;|Kuanyama
|-
|kk||[[wikipedia:Kazakh language|Kazakh]]||lang=&quot;kk&quot;|Қазақ тілі
|-
|kl||[[wikipedia:Kalaallisut language|Kalaallisut]]||lang=&quot;kl&quot;|kalaallisut; kalaallit oqaasii
|-
|km||[[wikipedia:Khmer language|Khmer]]||lang=&quot;km&quot;|ភាសាខ្មែរ
|-
|kn||[[wikipedia:Kannada language|Kannada]]||lang=&quot;kn&quot;|ಕನ್ನಡ
|-
|ko||[[wikipedia:Korean language|Korean]]||lang=&quot;ko&quot;|한국어 (韓國語); 조선말 (朝鮮語)&lt;!-- ideograph is used in Korea--&gt;
|-
|kr||[[wikipedia:Kanuri language|Kanuri]]||lang=&quot;kr&quot;|Kanuri
|-
|ks||[[wikipedia:Kashmiri language|Kashmiri]]||lang=&quot;ks&quot;|कश्मीरी; &lt;span style=&quot;direction:rtl&quot;&gt;‫كشميري‬&lt;/span&gt;
|-
|ku||[[wikipedia:Kurdish language|Kurdish]]||lang=&quot;ku&quot;|Kurdî; &lt;span style=&quot;direction:rtl&quot;&gt;‫كوردی‬&lt;/span&gt;
|-
|kv||[[wikipedia:Komi language|Komi]]||lang=&quot;kv&quot;|коми кыв
|-
|kw||[[wikipedia:Cornish language|Cornish]]||lang=&quot;kw&quot;|Kernewek
|-
|ky||[[wikipedia:Kyrgyz language|Kirghiz]]||lang=&quot;ky&quot;|кыргыз тили
|-
|la||[[wikipedia:Latin|Latin]]||lang=&quot;la&quot;|latine; lingua latina
|-
|lb||[[wikipedia:Luxembourgish language|Luxembourgish]]||lang=&quot;lb&quot;|Lëtzebuergesch
|-
|lg||[[wikipedia:Luganda language|Ganda]]||lang=&quot;lg&quot;|Luganda
|-
|li||[[wikipedia:Limburgish language|Limburgish]]||lang=&quot;li&quot;|Limburgs
|-
|ln||[[wikipedia:Lingala language|Lingala]]||lang=&quot;ln&quot;|Lingála
|-
|lo||[[wikipedia:Lao language|Lao]]||lang=&quot;lo&quot;|ພາສາລາວ
|-
|lt||[[wikipedia:Lithuanian language|Lithuanian]]||lang=&quot;lt&quot;|lietuvių kalba
|-
|lu||[[wikipedia:Luba-Katanga language|Luba-Katanga]]||
|-
|lv||[[wikipedia:Latvian language|Latvian]]||lang=&quot;lv&quot;|latviešu valoda
|-
|mg||[[wikipedia:Malagasy language|Malagasy]]||lang=&quot;mg&quot;|Malagasy fiteny
|-
|mh||[[wikipedia:Marshallese language|Marshallese]]||lang=&quot;mh&quot;|Kajin M̧ajeļ||
|-
|mi||[[wikipedia:Māori language|Māori]]||lang=&quot;mi&quot;|te reo Māori
|-
|mk||[[wikipedia:Macedonian language|Macedonian]]||lang=&quot;mk&quot;|македонски јазик
|-
|ml||[[wikipedia:Malayalam language|Malayalam]]||lang=&quot;ml&quot;|മലയാളം
|-
|mn||[[wikipedia:Mongolian language|Mongolian]]||lang=&quot;mn&quot;|Монгол
|-
|mo||[[wikipedia:Moldovan language|Moldavian]]||lang=&quot;mo&quot;|лимба молдовеняскэ
|-
|mr||[[wikipedia:Marathi language|Marathi]]||lang=&quot;mr&quot;|मराठी
|-
|ms||[[wikipedia:Malay language|Malay]]||lang=&quot;ms&quot;|bahasa Melayu; &lt;span style=&quot;direction:rtl&quot;&gt;‫بهاس ملايو‬&lt;/span&gt;
|-
|mt||[[wikipedia:Maltese language|Maltese]]||lang=&quot;mt&quot;|Malti
|-
|my||[[wikipedia:Burmese language|Burmese]]||lang=&quot;my&quot;|ဗမာစာ
|-
|na||[[wikipedia:Nauruan language|Nauru]]||lang=&quot;na&quot;|Ekakairũ Naoero
|-
|nb||[[wikipedia:Bokmål|Norwegian Bokmål]]||lang=&quot;nb&quot;|Norsk bokmål
|-
|nd||[[wikipedia:Northern Ndebele language|North Ndebele]]||lang=&quot;nd&quot;|isiNdebele
|-
|ne||[[wikipedia:Nepali language|Nepali]]||lang=&quot;ne&quot;|नेपाली
|-
|ng||[[wikipedia:Ndonga]]||lang=&quot;ng&quot;|Owambo
|-
|nl||[[wikipedia:Dutch language|Dutch]]||lang=&quot;nl&quot;|Nederlands
|-
|nn||[[wikipedia:Nynorsk|Norwegian Nynorsk]]||lang=&quot;nn&quot;|Norsk nynorsk
|-
|no||[[wikipedia:Norwegian language|Norwegian]]||lang=&quot;no&quot;|Norsk
|-
|nr||[[wikipedia:Southern Ndebele language|South Ndebele]]||lang=&quot;nr&quot;|Ndébélé
|-
|nv||[[wikipedia:Navajo language|Navajo]]||lang=&quot;nv&quot;|Diné bizaad; Dinékʼehǰí
|-
|ny||[[wikipedia:Chichewa language|Chichewa]]||lang=&quot;ny&quot;|chiCheŵa; chinyanja
|-
|oc||[[wikipedia:Occitan language|Occitan]]||lang=&quot;oc&quot;|Occitan
|-
|oj||[[wikipedia:Anishinaabe language|Ojibwa]]||lang=&quot;oj&quot;|ᐊᓂᔑᓈᐯᒧᐎᓐ
|-
|om||[[wikipedia:Oromo language|Oromo]]||lang=&quot;om&quot;|Afaan Oromoo
|-
|or||[[wikipedia:Oriya language|Oriya]]||lang=&quot;or&quot;|ଓଡ଼ିଆ
|-
|os||[[wikipedia:Ossetic language|Ossetian]]||lang=&quot;os&quot;|Ирон æвзаг
|-
|pa||[[wikipedia:Punjabi language|Panjabi]]||lang=&quot;pa&quot;|ਪੰਜਾਬੀ; &lt;span style=&quot;direction:rtl&quot;&gt;‫پنجابی‬&lt;/span&gt;
|-
|pi||[[wikipedia:Pāli language|Pāli]]||lang=&quot;pi&quot;|पािऴ
|-
|pl||[[wikipedia:Polish language|Polish]]||lang=&quot;pl&quot;|Polski
|-
|ps||[[wikipedia:Pashto language|Pashto]]||lang=&quot;ps&quot;|&lt;span style=&quot;direction:rtl&quot;&gt;‫پښتو‬&lt;/span&gt;
|-
|pt||[[wikipedia:Portuguese language|Portuguese]]||lang=&quot;pt&quot;|Português
|-
|qu||[[wikipedia:Quechua]]||lang=&quot;qu&quot;|Runa Simi; Kichwa
|-
|rm||[[wikipedia:Romansh|Raeto-Romance]]||lang=&quot;rm&quot;|rumantsch grischun
|-
|rn||[[wikipedia:Kirundi language|Kirundi]]||lang=&quot;rn&quot;|kiRundi
|-
|ro||[[wikipedia:Romanian language|Romanian]]||lang=&quot;ro&quot;|română
|-
|ru||[[wikipedia:Russian language|Russian]]||lang=&quot;ru&quot;|русский язык
|-
|rw||[[wikipedia:Kinyarwanda language|Kinyarwanda]]||lang=&quot;rw&quot;|Kinyarwanda
|-
|sa||[[wikipedia:Sanskrit]]||lang=&quot;sa&quot;|संस्कृतम्
|-
|sc||[[wikipedia:Sardinian language|Sardinian]]||lang=&quot;sc&quot;|sardu
|-
|sd||[[wikipedia:Sindhi language|Sindhi]]||lang=&quot;sd&quot;|सिन्धी; &lt;span style=&quot;direction:rtl&quot;&gt;‫سنڌي، سندھی‬&lt;/span&gt;
|-
|se||[[wikipedia:Northern Sami]]||lang=&quot;se&quot;|Davvisámegiella
|-
|sg||[[wikipedia:Sango language|Sango]]||lang=&quot;sg&quot;|yângâ tî sängö
|-
|sh||[[wikipedia:Serbo-Croatian]]||lang=&quot;sh&quot;|Српскохрватски
|-
|si||[[wikipedia:Sinhala]]||lang=&quot;si&quot;|සිංහල
|-
|sk||[[wikipedia:Slovak language|Slovak]]||lang=&quot;sk&quot;|slovenčina
|-
|sl||[[wikipedia:Slovenian language|Slovenian]]||lang=&quot;sl&quot;|slovenščina
|-
|sm||[[wikipedia:Samoan language|Samoan]]||lang=&quot;sm&quot;|gagana fa'a Samoa
|-
|sn||[[wikipedia:Shona language|Shona]]||lang=&quot;sn&quot;|chiShona
|-
|so||[[wikipedia:Somali language|Somali]]||lang=&quot;so&quot;|Soomaaliga; af Soomaali
|-
|sq||[[wikipedia:Albanian language|Albanian]]||lang=&quot;sq&quot;|Shqip
|-
|sr||[[wikipedia:Serbian language|Serbian]]||lang=&quot;sr&quot;|српски језик
|-
|ss||[[wikipedia:Swati language|Swati]]||lang=&quot;ss&quot;|SiSwati
|-
|st||[[wikipedia:Sesotho language|Southern Sotho]]||lang=&quot;st&quot;|seSotho
|-
|su||[[wikipedia:Sundanese language|Sundanese]]||lang=&quot;su&quot;|Basa Sunda
|-
|sv||[[wikipedia:Swedish language|Swedish]]||lang=&quot;sv&quot;|Svenska
|-
|sw||[[wikipedia:Swahili language|Swahili]]||lang=&quot;sw&quot;|Kiswahili
|-
|ta||[[wikipedia:Tamil language|Tamil]]||lang=&quot;ta&quot;|தமிழ்
|-
|te||[[wikipedia:Telugu language|Telugu]]||lang=&quot;te&quot;|తెలుగు
|-
|tg||[[wikipedia:Tajik language|Tajik]]||lang=&quot;tg&quot;|тоҷикӣ; toğikī; &lt;span style=&quot;direction:rtl&quot;&gt;‫تاجیکی‬&lt;/span&gt;
|-
|th||[[wikipedia:Thai language|Thai]]||lang=&quot;th&quot;|ไทย
|-
|ti||[[wikipedia:Tigrinya language|Tigrinya]]||lang=&quot;ti&quot;|ትግርኛ
|-
|tk||[[wikipedia:Turkmen language|Turkmen]]||lang=&quot;tk&quot;|Türkmen; Түркмен
|-
|tl||[[wikipedia:Tagalog language|Tagalog]]||lang=&quot;tl&quot;|Tagalog
|-
|tn||[[wikipedia:Tswana language|Tswana]]||lang=&quot;tn&quot;|seTswana
|-
|to||[[wikipedia:Tongan language|Tonga]]||lang=&quot;to&quot;|faka Tonga
|-
|tr||[[wikipedia:Turkish language|Turkish]]||lang=&quot;tr&quot;|Türkçe
|-
|ts||[[wikipedia:Tsonga language|Tsonga]]||lang=&quot;ts&quot;|xiTsonga
|-
|tt||[[wikipedia:Tatar language|Tatar]]||lang=&quot;tt&quot;|татарча; tatarça; &lt;span style=&quot;direction:rtl&quot;&gt;‫تاتارچا‬&lt;/span&gt;
|-
|tw||[[wikipedia:Twi]]||lang=&quot;tw&quot;|Twi
|-
|ty||[[wikipedia:Tahitian language|Tahitian]]||lang=&quot;ty&quot;|Reo Mā`ohi
|-
|ug||[[wikipedia:Uyghur language|Uighur]]||lang=&quot;ug&quot;|Uyƣurqə; &lt;span style=&quot;direction:rtl&quot;&gt;‫ئۇيغۇرچ ‬&lt;/span&gt;
|-
|uk||[[wikipedia:Ukrainian language|Ukrainian]]||lang=&quot;uk&quot;|українська мова
|-
|ur||[[wikipedia:Urdu]]||lang=&quot;ur&quot;|&lt;span style=&quot;direction:rtl&quot;&gt;‫اردو‬&lt;/span&gt;
|-
|uz||[[wikipedia:Uzbek language|Uzbek]]||lang=&quot;uz&quot;|O'zbek; Ўзбек; &lt;span style=&quot;direction:rtl&quot;&gt;‫أۇزبېك‬&lt;/span&gt;
|-
|ve||[[wikipedia:Venda language|Venda]]||lang=&quot;ve&quot;|tshiVenḓa
|-
|vi||[[wikipedia:Vietnamese language|Vietnamese]]||lang=&quot;vi&quot;|Tiếng Việt
|-
|vo||[[wikipedia:Volapük]]||lang=&quot;vo&quot;|Volapük
|-
|wa||[[wikipedia:Walloon language|Walloon]]||lang=&quot;wa&quot;|Walon
|-
|wo||[[wikipedia:Wolof language|Wolof]]||lang=&quot;wo&quot;|Wollof
|-
|xh||[[wikipedia:Xhosa language|Xhosa]]||lang=&quot;xh&quot;|isiXhosa
|-
|yi||[[wikipedia:Yiddish language|Yiddish]]||lang=&quot;yi&quot;|&lt;span style=&quot;direction:rtl&quot;&gt;‫ייִדיש‬&lt;/span&gt;
|-
|yo||[[wikipedia:Yoruba language|Yoruba]]||lang=&quot;yo&quot;|Yorùbá
|-
|za||[[wikipedia:Zhuang language|Zhuang]]||lang=&quot;za&quot;|Saɯ cueŋƅ; Saw cuengh
|-
|zh||[[wikipedia:Chinese language|Chinese]]||lang=&quot;zh&quot;|中文、汉语、漢語
|-
|zu||[[wikipedia:Zulu language|Zulu]]||lang=&quot;zu&quot;|isiZulu
|}
&lt;/center&gt;

[[Category:Multilingualism]]</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Template:Coordination page</title>
    <id>1709</id>
    <revision>
      <id>4310</id>
      <timestamp>2006-11-22T08:33:25Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Javier Carro</username>
        <id>57</id>
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== 1 ==
''from English-language participants''

The English language [[Wikiversity talk:Scope of research/En|discussion page]] for &quot;Scope of research&quot; is about the types of [[Wikiversity:Original research|original research]] activities that might be allowed within Wikiversity: 
#literature reviews that produce new knowledge.
#research projects within Wikiversity that use research methods in addition to literature review ([http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Bloom_clock_project  example]).
#collaborative research projects involving researchers at scholarly institutions outside of Wikiversity ([http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Astronomy_Project example]).
[[Category:Research]]

== 2 ==
''from German-language participants''

&quot;First a general observation: the distinction between &quot;primary&quot; and &quot;secondary&quot; research is unknown in German cultural practice. Thus, the only relevant term here is&quot;research&quot; and, as such, this term implies a set of critical methodologies. that transcend the merely literary.  

1. The discussion should begin with a definition of the term &quot;research&quot;. Subsequently, we would like to suggest the following formulation, which is common to German-language science enterprises: &quot;research is the methodical search for knowledge&quot;. 

2. From our point of view the definition of &quot;research&quot; per se, is to a considerable degree, discipline dependent. Hence it follows that the area specialists of each area should decide for themselves, what is meant by research and what kind of research it should be permitted to do.  A universally binding rule for all specialist areas in Wikiversity appears to us problematic. 

3. Thus far the individual language versions of the different Wikimedia projects have independently determined their own content and direction, as well as their internal operational procedures (for example, both both the German-language Wikpedia and the German-language Wikisource project differ substantially from their respective counterparts in the English language). This state of affairs is positive in that it contributes to intellectual diversity, and this principle should apply to Wikiversity as well. Therefore we would suggest that, the decision, as to what kinds of research should be permitted, should be left to the inivdidual specialist areas as well as the individual language versions.&quot; ([http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity_translations/De_to_En_archive translation source])

== 3 ==
''from English-language participants''

This page: [[Wikiversity:Research/En]] needs to be translated into German. It includes the instructions from the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees about how the entire Wikiversity community needs to develop '''ONE''' policy for research that will apply to the entire Wikiversity project.

Even if the term &quot;original research&quot; is not well-known to Germans it is of great concern to the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. The term &quot;original research&quot; is mentioned at [http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Theoriefindung Wikipedia:Theoriefindung]. The distinction to be made is between:&lt;BR&gt;1) forms of &quot;secondary research&quot; (literature review) as practiced at Wikipedia under the policy of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wp:nor No Original Research]&lt;BR&gt;and&lt;BR&gt;2) other forms of research that would not be possible if Wikiversity also adopts the No Original Research policy.

If Wikiversity is going to have forms of research activity that are not restrained by the No Original Research policy, then Wikiversity needs to establish policies for how such research will be conducted in '''ALL''' languages.

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''[Note: Much to my regret your answer shows me that the improper Babelfish-translation lead to misunderstandings. Is there any possibility to handle this in a different way? --[[User:Frank Schulenburg|Frank Schulenburg]] 08:52, 4 September 2006 (UTC)]''

&quot;improper Babelfish-translation&quot; &lt;-- the translation of [#2] was later modified, see: [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity_translations/De_to_En_archive Wikiversity translations/De to En archive]

== 4 ==
*(Machine translated,then further edits by smithgrrl [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity_translations#needed_translation_.28high_priority.29_2 see translations page])

After some thought, [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity_translations/7_September_IRC we on IRC #wikiversity-en] came to the conclusion that probably the best translation is to divide the categories into  &quot;comparative research and further (single-focus?) research&quot;. Another translation does not appear to have much meaning. Likewise the additional phrase &quot;active research&quot; is rather odd and is used in a different context. [http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:Aschoeke Aschoeke]

== 5 ==
I see part of the distinction &quot;original research&quot;/&quot;secondary research&quot; covered by the German terms: „empirische Forschung“/„Literaturstudium und Dokumentation“ (i.e. &quot;empirical Research&quot;/&quot;Literature study and Documentation&quot;). --Purodha 00:55, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

If the committee regulation means to implement the Wikipedia rule &quot;No original research&quot; here, then we should imho rename the project to &quot;Wiki-College&quot;. --Purodha 00:55, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[Translated from German with google translation] I agree with Purodha and would like to state, in general, crucially, that: each piece empirical research should contain not only the result, but also the precise documentation of execution and/or the origin of the research, so as to allow others to reproduce the results. Turned around: An attempt, which cannot be reproduced due to inaccurate description, falsifises the result, in the same way as result deviations under a more precise attempt. --Dietrich 18:09, 12 November 2006 (CEST)


*Is it possible or not to operate in the context of the Wikiversity original research rubric?
*how the actual goal and function of the Wikiversity should be thought out?
==6==
*How does the Wikiversity community assure high-quality research? 
**how do we prevent cranks from adding bogus research to Wikiversity?
**Does Wikiversity need a formal peer review system for original research?
**what is bogus research? Who decides? 
**Research versus publishing

==8==
*Wiki-journals (http://academia.wikia.org)

==9==
*Thoughts...
**We need '''to define what particular dangers''' there are in allowing research to become a part of Wikiversity, and '''to draw up a framework''' for accepting and dealing with the '''various aspects of research'''.
** On ''researches with human subjects'';  on the question: &quot;''Who reviews the reviewers?''&quot;
**What is ''wiki-publishing''?

==10==
*Back the Scope
**Create a list  types of research activities and rank the types according to how easy it would be to carry out that type of research within Wikiversity?

==11==
External research:
*Question (from a discussion in Spanish Wikiversity): What do we do with original research (including thesis works) that was done externally, and afterwards licensed under the GFDL? Does it belong in wikisource? Does it belong to wikiversity?

== 12 ==
*[[User:Njyoder]]'s question: ''Reinventing the wheel?''
*[[User:Cormaggio]]'s reply

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== General ==

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* Create your language-specific summary page using {{tl|Summary page}}; &lt;small&gt;example: [[Wikiversity:Scope of research/En]].&lt;/small&gt;
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* Créez la page de coordination multilingue avec {{tl|Coordination page}} ; &lt;small&gt;exemple: [[Wikiversity:Scope of research]].&lt;/small&gt;
* Créez la page de résumé de votre langue avec {{tl|Summary page}} ; &lt;small&gt;exemple: [[Wikiversity:Scope of research/En]].&lt;/small&gt;
* Commencez la discussion sur la page de discussion de votre langue avec {{tl|Discussion page}} ; &lt;small&gt;exemple: [[Wikiversity talk:Scope of research/En]].&lt;/small&gt;
* Annoncez la nouvelle discussion sur [[Wikiversity:Announcements/Fr]] avec {{tl|Announce/talk}} et sur [[Wikiversity:Babel]].
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      <contributor>
        <username>Edward Z. Yang</username>
        <id>44</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>/* Welcome :) */  merge lists</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">== Welcome :) ==

Hi and welcome on Wikiversity Beta. As the father of [[Wikiversity:Language select|the language selection system]], maybe you could tell me why it seems not to work on [[Wikiversity:Babel]]? Thanks a lot, and welcome again! [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 21:22, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

: Thanks! I've taken a look at it, and it seems to be working for me (Firefox 1.5 and IE 6). Could you be more specific about what's not working (or give me your browser details)?
: There are some troubles though: the Unicode characters, while a nice multilingual touch, don't display properly in Internet Explorer. I can't patch that up, because I'm not a sysop here. Which leads me to my next point: now that the code has found its way to multiple wikis, it's going to be a bit of a pain to maintain. I've tried contacting the developers but have had no response about getting this code into the Subversion repository. [[User:Edward Z. Yang|Edward Z. Yang]] 21:28, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
::My browser is Firefox 1.5, and [[Wikiversity:Babel]] seems to be the only page where I get a problem. Actually, when I enter a language code in the input box and click on the first arrow (the one you called ''Save''), the language code is replaced by &lt;code&gt;mul&lt;/code&gt; and texts in all languages are displayed, just as if I had clicked on the second arrow (which you called ''Show all''). I assume this is due to the many languages on this page, because I have never seen this issue on another multilingual page on this wiki.
::If you need a sysop to make some changes, just ask me, I'll be happy to help. [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 21:37, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
:::Hrm... still unable to reproduce. Can you tell me the state of the page before you click on the text box and enter the new language? Also, I'd like to know the contents of the cookie ''metawiki_language_js'' before and after you attempt to do this (you can get this info by Options &gt; Privacy &gt; View Cookies).
:::I've got an updated version coming up that has better Show All behavior, so look out for that. &amp;mdash; &lt;span style=&quot;font-variant:small-caps;font-family:sans-serif;&quot;&gt;[[User:Edward Z. Yang|Edward Z. Yang]]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style=&quot;font-family:serif;&quot;&gt;([[User talk:Edward Z. Yang|Talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:18, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
::::Okay, the new version's live on Meta. Try copying that over. Also, I recommend renaming the cookie to ''beta_language_js''. &amp;mdash; &lt;span style=&quot;font-variant:small-caps;font-family:sans-serif;&quot;&gt;[[User:Edward Z. Yang|Edward Z. Yang]]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style=&quot;font-family:serif;&quot;&gt;([[User talk:Edward Z. Yang|Talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 22:34, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
:::::Updated. Now it works well, thanks! [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 12:10, 3 September 2006 (UTC)</text>
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        <id>45</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">{{babel|ksh|de|en-3|la-2|ru-1|af-1|bar-1|eur-1|als-1|gsw-1|swg-1|lb-1|li-1|nl-1|nds-1|nds-nl-1|pdc-1|pdt-1|pfl-1|vmf-1|wep-1|sxu-1|vls-1||Cyrl-3|Grek-1|Latf-3|Latn-4|Runr-1|}}&lt;!-- simple-2}}&lt;!-- ? probably those, too, but as of yet unverified: frk-1|gct-1|wae-1|geh-1|sli-1|cim-1|mhn-1|nno-1| zea-1|act-1|drt-1|gos-1|sdz-1|sdl-1|twd-1|vel-1| nor-1|sve-1 --&gt;</text>
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      <contributor>
        <username>Alexandre braz de macêdo</username>
        <id>187</id>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">{{babel|pt|en-1}}
My name is '''Salles Neto'''. I am ''sysop'' on PT.Wikipedia.

I'm [[w:pt:Brasil|brazilian]] from [[w:pt:Fortaleza|pt:Fortaleza]], but I live in the city of [[w:pt:Boa Vista|pt:Boa Vista]], [[w:pt:Roraima|pt:Roraima]].

== See also ==
* [[User:SallesNeto BR/projetos/Página principal]]

[[Category:!SallesNeto_BR]]
==informações==
hi '''sallesneto''', eu posso escrever em português aqui... ? quero saber mais sobre este projeto: wikiversity. alexandre [[User:Alexandre braz de macêdo|Alexandre braz de macêdo]] 06:36, 19 December 2006 (UTC)</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Talk:Main Page</title>
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      <timestamp>2007-01-15T12:04:02Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>80.104.161.172</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>pagina in italiano</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">A count of main namespace articles was [http://beta.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=2508&amp;oldid=914 recently added]. This caused me to wonder what the main namespace content of this wiki is. I have been creating pages such as [[Wikiversity:Original research]], but maybe the main namespace of this wiki is the correct place for discussion of Wikiversity policy. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 04:41, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

:I think the Wikiversity namespace was the right place to create your page. Actually, Wikiversity Beta is both a ''meta-wiki'' for Wikiversity projects, and an ''incubator''. We must clearly separate those two roles. I think it is right to keep the main namespace for incubator-related stuff, and Wikiversity namespace for gloabal coordination / discussions. [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 10:56, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
::Not clear to me why we have this.. unless it's an incubator for non-en or de langs.  Shouldn't interlang coordination take place on the actual meta?  There isn't a meta wikibooks or wikipedia to my knowleage.--[[User:Rayc|Rayc]] 04:38, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
:::It is actually an incubator for non-en or de languages. You can look at the [[Help:FAQ/En|FAQ]] or see the [[wikimedia:Resolution Wikiversity|Board resolution]] about Wikiversity. [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 06:01, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

==Not beta==
This wiki if for '''coordinating''' the various language versions of Wikipedia with each other. It is '''not a beta''' version of anything. The ''beta'' hostname is causing confusion and should be changed imediately to something more appropriate and clear. --[[User:69.181.74.197|69.181.74.197]] 20:04, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
:The whole wikiversity project is in beta phase per decision of the Board of trustees. As explained on the main page, Wikiversity beta is both a coordination project and a place where are hosted content of wikiversity projects which don't have a dedicated subdomain yet. [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 20:19, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
::Please change host ''beta'' to host ''www'' within the next six months. ''Beta'' as a hostname does not parallel the ''en'' and ''de'' hostnames well and is causing unnecessary confusion. ''Beta'' is in the logos of the various language versions of the project already. The logos are the appropriate place to indicate beta status. The hostname is not. Thanks :-) [[User:Rogerhc|Rogerhc]] 23:42, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
:::This hostname has been chosen by the Board of the Wikimedia Foundation. If it is changed, it will be when the project is reviewed by the [[m:Special projects committee|Special projects committee]]. [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 07:52, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

==http://wikiversity.org/==
''http://wikiversity.org/ is the front door to the Wikiversity project''

===Comments about the front door at http://wikiversity.org/===

*Both the top center '''logo &quot;Beta&quot;''' and the bottom center '''Beta ''Project Coordination''''' link to the same destination. That is confusing to newcomers as they try to figure out what the difference between those two are -- there is none. Please remove one or the other. --[[User:Rogerhc|Rogerhc]] 00:08, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
*The '''Beta''' ''Project Coordination'' link reads as if we are in a beta version of project coordination. Better take &quot;beta&quot; out of that. Simply '''Project coordination''' would communicate more clearly. --[[User:Rogerhc|Rogerhc]] 00:08, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
:Please leave your comments on the dedicated page: [[m:Talk:Www.wikiversity.org template]]. About your second point, Beta is simply the name of this wiki. [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 07:54, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::Thanks. Have done that now and submitted a portal tweek: see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Www.wikiversity.org_template#Version_2 --[[User:Rogerhc|Rogerhc]] 00:28, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

== Polish Wikiversity ==

We have 332 000+ articles in Polisch Wikipedia, why don't we have our free university?
:You will have to ultimately go to [[m:Requests for new languages]]. You can also use this website as an &quot;incubator&quot;. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 00:34, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

== pagina in italiano ==

salve c'è qualcuno qui che parli in italiano? Come si sviluppa wikiversity? sono interessato a collaborare

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Maluvolaru</text>
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      <contributor>
        <username>Guillom</username>
        <id>4</id>
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      <minor />
      <comment>fixed babel template</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Babel|nl|en-4|de-2|fr-1}}</text>
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      <contributor>
        <ip>Dedalus</ip>
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      <comment>sp</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #6EF7A7 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#C5FCDC&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#6EF7A7;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''nl'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Deze gebruiker heeft '''[[:Category:User nl|Nederlands]]''' als '''moedertaal'''.[[Category:User nl|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
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      <contributor>
        <ip>Steinbach</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>typo; rem. link to English article about Dutch, since all other templates lack such links</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #CCCC00 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#FFFF99&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#FFFF00;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''nl-4'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Deze gebruiker spreekt '''[[:Category:User nl|Nederlands]]''' op '''[[:Category:User nl-4|moedertaalniveau]]'''. [[Category:User nl|{{PAGENAME}}]][[Category:User nl-4|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
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      <contributor>
        <ip>Aphaia</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>copy from [[Commons:Template:User nl-3]] a bit modefied</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #99B3FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#E0E8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#99B3FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''nl-3'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Deze gebruiker spreekt [[:Category:User nl-3|uitstekend]] [[:Category:User nl|Nederlands]].
[[Category:User nl-3|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
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      <timestamp>2006-05-09T17:00:00Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Adjusting color code of template for level 2 proficiency.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #77E0E8 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#D0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#77E0E8;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''nl-2'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Deze gebruiker heeft [[:Category:User nl-2|middelmatige kennis]] van het [[:Category:User nl|Nederlands]].
[[Category:User nl-2|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
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      <contributor>
        <username>Purodha</username>
        <id>45</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>+ Category:User nl</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #C0C8FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#F0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#C0C8FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''nl-1'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Deze gebruiker heeft '''[[:Category:User nl-1|elementaire kennis]]''' van het '''[[:Category:User nl|Nederlands]]'''.
[[Category:User nl|{{PAGENAME}}]]
[[Category:User nl-1|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
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    <title>Wikiversity:Language select/De</title>
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      <contributor>
        <username>Hillgentleman</username>
        <id>30</id>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Wikiversity:Language select}}

''Ausführlichere Informationen über dieses Feature ist unter [[m:Meta:Language select|Meta:Language select]] abrufbar.''

'''[[m:Meta:Language select|Language select]]''' ermöglicht es Nutzern, fremde Sprachen auf mehrsprachigen Seiten auszublenden. Dies erlaubt beispielsweise französischsprachigen Nutzern, sich alle mehrsprachigen Seiten nur auf Französisch anzeigen zu lassen (wobei im Falle einer allein auf Spanisch vorliegenden Seite eben nur diese Version angezeigt wird). 

== Eine Sprache auswählen ==

* Eine Sprache wird als Voreinstellung ausgewählt, indem ihr [[List of ISO 639-1 codes|ISO 639-1 code]] in die untenstehende Eingabebox eingetragen wird (&lt;code&gt;de&lt;/code&gt; für Deutsch) und anschließend auf &lt;big&gt;➤&lt;/big&gt; geklickt wird.
* Sollen alle Sprachen angezeigt werden, lautet die Eingabe &lt;code&gt;mul&lt;/code&gt; (alternativ kann auf &lt;big&gt;⋙&lt;/big&gt; geklickt werden).

== Benutzung ==
&lt;!--
=== Identifying multilingual pages ===
Seiten, in denen das System ''Language select'' zur Anwendung kommt, enthalten eine Vorlage
{{tl|multilingual}}.
--&gt;
=== JavaScript ===
Die JavaScript-Implementierung ist per Voreinstellung auf Wikiversity Beta aktiviert. Sie kann deaktiviert werden, indem die folgende Zeile zu zu dem [[Special:Mypage/monobook.js|monobook.js des jeweiligen Benutzers]] hinzugefügt wird: &lt;pre&gt;ls_enable = false;&lt;/pre&gt;

Ein Beispiel für dieses Script ist untenstehend zu sehen. Wenn die Sprachauswahl deaktiviert ist, wird der gesamte Text angezeigt.

&lt;div class=&quot;multilingual&quot;&gt;
{{ls|de|Dieser Text liegt auf Deutsch vor.}}
{{ls|en|This text is English.}}
{{ls|fr|Ce texte est Français.}}
{{ls|pt|Este texto está em Português.}}
{{ls|sc|Custu testu est in Sardu.}}
{{ls|la|Haec nota Latine scriptus est.}}
{{ls|zh|中文}}
&lt;/div&gt;

Der JavaScript-Programmcode kann unter [{{fullurl:MediaWiki:Monobook.js|action=render}} MediaWiki:Monobook.js] eingesehen werden.

== Die Sprachen eingrenzen ==

Die Vorlage {{[[Template:ls|ls]]}} vereinfacht die Einbindung der Funktion ''Language select''. 

&lt;pre&gt;{{ls|de|Dieser Text liegt auf Deutsch vor.}}
&lt;/pre&gt;


[[Category:Multilingualism]]
[[Category:DE]]</text>
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    <title>User talk:SallesNeto BR</title>
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      <timestamp>2006-12-19T06:38:22Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Alexandre braz de macêdo</username>
        <id>187</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>/* pedido */</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">== Welcome ==

Hello and welcome on Wikiversity Beta. Thanks for making the main page more beautiful! However, you should see the discussion on [[talk:Main Page]]. I am not sure the article count is relevant on this wiki. What do you think? [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 10:59, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
:Moreover, I am very doubtful about the date thing: MediaWiki variables are renderred in English on every pages. [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 11:17, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
::Sorry for the delay, i've been busy elsewhere :) I feel the Announces box is too clear; couldn't we keep the current color? I have to confess I like the current 3D effect. Anyway, I think we should focus on discussions about Wikiversity rather than about the design of the main page ;) Good evening. [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 20:51, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

:Sorry for not responding. Thanks for you design! [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 14:29, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Um mês e meio depois...:)

Acho que sim, está com bom aspecto :)

Já não passo por aqui há um bom tempo: já nem sei bem em que pé as coisas andam por aqui, no que diz respeito a uma possível wikiversidade lusófina. Espero ter mais tempo para participar. Cumprs. [[User:Lijealso|Lijealso]] 21:38, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

*Obrigadu. [[User:Danilodn|danilodn_br]] 02:04, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

== Barra de línguas ==

*Como incluir o pt na barra de línguas, p.ex. [[Wikiversity:Mission/Pt]]? [[User:Danilodn|User:Danilodn&amp;#124;danilo_br]] 17:19, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

:*Realmente eram os atalhos automáticos, lol. Qualquer novidade me avise. Abraços. -- [[User:Danilodn|&lt;font color=&quot;#1E90FF&quot; face=&quot;Arial&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;danilo&lt;/font&gt;_&lt;font color=&quot;#008000&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;b&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FFD700&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;r&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User Discussion:Danilodn|&lt;font color=&quot;#00bfff&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;msg&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; -- 00:50, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

==pedido==

está aqui:

http://bugzilla.wikipedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7966

[[User:Lijealso|Lijealso]] 19:36, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

:Isto é bom, assim já iniciamos o projeto com tudo pronto. --[[User:Slade|Slade]] &lt;sup&gt;[[m:User:Slade|meta]]&lt;/sup&gt; 03:20, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

==informações==
hi '''sallesneto''', eu posso escrever em português aqui... ? quero saber mais sobre este projeto: wikiversity. alexandre [[User:Alexandre braz de macêdo|Alexandre braz de macêdo]] 06:36, 19 December 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <contributor>
        <username>SallesNeto BR</username>
        <id>43</id>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;background-color: #fcfcfc; margin: 0; border: 1px solid #DEDED3; padding: 7px 7px 0px 7px;  -moz-border-radius:5px&quot;&gt;

	&lt;center&gt;'''&lt;font color=&quot;#0000CC&quot; size=&quot;3&quot; face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-variant:small-caps&quot;&gt;Bem-vindo à Wikiversidade beta&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;'''&lt;/center&gt;
&lt;center&gt;{{main page}}&lt;/center&gt;
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    <title>Main Page/Top</title>
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      <timestamp>2006-10-18T14:30:42Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Xenon</username>
        <id>105</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>A bit more inviting</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;background-color: #fcfcfc; margin: 0; border: 1px solid #DEDED3; padding: 7px 7px 0px 7px;  -moz-border-radius:5px&quot;&gt;
	&lt;div style=&quot;margin: 0; padding: -27px 0 0 0; float: right; font-size: 100%; text-align: right; line-height: 135%;&quot;&gt;{{CURRENTDAYNAME}}, {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin: 5px; text-align: center; font-size:18px; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif;&quot;&gt;Welcome to Wikiversity beta&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;center&gt;{{main page}}&lt;/center&gt;
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    <title>User:Edward Z. Yang/monobook.js</title>
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      <timestamp>2006-09-03T17:48:34Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Edward Z. Yang</username>
        <id>44</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>forget about it</comment>
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    <title>Wikiversity:Scope of research/De</title>
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      <timestamp>2006-11-12T17:14:35Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Dietrich</username>
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      </contributor>
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== 1 ==

Die [[Wikiversity talk:Scope of research/De|deutschprachige Diskussionsseite]] zu dieser Seite befasst sich mit der Frage, welche Arten von [[Wikiversity:Original research|Forschung]] [die im englischsprachigen Original gemachte Unterscheidung zwischen ''original research'' und ''secondary research'' hat kein Pendant im Deutschen] in Wikiversity erlaubt sein sollten: 
#Auf der Grundlage bestehender Literatur basierende Forschung.
#Forschungsprojekte, deren Methoden über die auf Literatur basierende Forschung hinausgehen ([http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Bloom_clock_project Beispiel „Bloom clock project“ aus der englischsprachigen Wikiversity]).
#Projekte, an denen Forscher von Institutionen ausserhalb der Wikiversity teilnehmen ([http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Astronomy_Project Beispiel „Astronomy Project“ aus der englischsprachigen Wikiversity]).

== 2 ==
Zunächst ein genereller Hinweis: Eine Unterscheidung zwischen ''original research'' und ''secondary research'' ist im deutschsprachigen Kulturraum unbekannt. Der alleinige Begriff ist dort „Forschung“ und impliziert als solcher stets eine über die Beschäftigung mit Literatur hinausgehende methodische Vorgehensweise.
#Die Diskussion sollte mit einer Definition des Begriffes „Forschung“ einsetzen. Einer im deutschsprachigen Wissenschaftsbetrieb geläufigen Formulierung folgend schlagen wir hierzu folgendes vor: „Forschung ist die methodische Suche nach Erkenntnis“.
#Aus unserer Sicht ist Forschung in hohem Maße disziplinabhängig. Daraus folgt, dass jeder Fachbereich für sich entscheiden sollte, welche Art von Forschung erlaubt sein sollte. Eine allgemeinverbindliche Regel für alle Fachbereiche in Wikiversity erscheint uns problematisch.
#Bisher haben die einzelnen Sprachversionen der verschiedenen Wikimedia-Projekte ihre eigene inhaltliche Ausrichtung sowie ihre internen Arbeitsabläufe selber bestimmt (beispielsweise unterscheiden sich sowohl die deutschsprachige Wikpedia als auch das deutschsprachige Wikisource-Projekt erheblich von ihren jeweiligen Pendants in englischer Sprache). Dies trägt zur geistigen Vielfalt bei und sollte auch für Wikiversity gelten. Deshalb schlagen wir vor, die Entscheidung über die Arten der erlaubten Forschung nicht nur den einzelnen Fachbereichen, sondern auch den einzelnen Sprachversionen zu überlassen.
[[User:Frank Schulenburg]], [[User:Histo]] (German language Wikiversity)

== 3 ==
Diese Seite: [[Wikiversity:Research/En]] muss ins Deutsche übersetzt werden. Sie enthält die Anweisungen des Board of Trustees der Wikimedia Foundation, dass die gesamte Wikiversity Community '''EINE''' Forschungsrichtlinie für das gesamte Wikiversityprojekt zu entwickeln hat.

Selbst wenn der Begriff „original research“ Deutschen nicht bekannt ist, ist er von großem Belang für das Board of Trustees der Wikimedia Foundation. Der Begriff  „original research“ wird unter [http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Theoriefindung Wikipedia:Theoriefindung] genannt. Unterschieden werden muss zwischen:&lt;BR&gt;1) Formen von „secondary research“ (Literaturbearbeitung), wie sie in der Wikipedia gemäß der Richtlinie [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wp:nor No Original Research] betrieben wird&lt;BR&gt;und&lt;BR&gt;2) anderen Formen von Forschung, die in Wikiversity nicht möglich wären, sollte das Projekt diese Richtlinie übernehmen.

Sollte Wikiversity Formen von Forschungstätigkeit erlauben, die von der Richtlinie des „No Original Research“ abweichen, dann müssen Richtlinien geschaffen werden, wie solche Forschung in '''ALLEN''' Sprachen behandelt werden soll.

''[Anmerkung: Sehr zu meinem Bedauern stelle ich fest, dass die ungenaue Babelfish-Übersetzung zu Mißverständnissen geführt hat. Gibt es eine Möglichkeit, dies auf eine andere Weise zu handhaben? --[[User:Frank Schulenburg|Frank Schulenburg]] 08:52, 4 September 2006 (UTC)]''
Hallo Frank, wie sehen die Missverständnisse genau aus? Grüße Raoul

== 4 ==

Im IRC sind wir nach einigem überlegen zum Ergebnis gekommen, dass die wahrscheinlich beste Übersetzung, die Aufteilung in &quot;vergleichende Forschung und (sonstige) Forschung&quot; ist. Eine andere Übersetzung erscheint nicht sinvoll. Ebenso ist der Zusatz &quot;aktive Forschung&quot; eher ungewöhnlich und wird in anderem Zusammenhang verwendet. [http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:Aschoeke Aschoeke]

== 5 ==

Ich sehe einen Anteil der Unterscheidung &quot;original research&quot;/&quot;secondary research&quot; in dem deutschen Begriffspaar: „empirische Forschung“/„Literaturstudium und Dokumentation“ wiedergegeben. --[[User:Purodha|Purodha]] 00:55, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Wenn die Komitee-Regelung sein sollte, die Wikipedia-Regel ''no original research'' hier durchzusetzen, dann sollten wir imho das Projekt in Wiki-Kolleg umtaufen. --[[User:Purodha|Purodha]] 00:55, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Ich stimme Purodha zu und möchte für eine generelle Freigabe der original research / empirischen Forschung anführen, das deren Regeln entscheidend sind: jede empirische Forschung sollte nicht nur vom Ergebnis, sondern auch von der Beschreibung der Durchführung bzw. der Herkunft der Ergebnisse so präzise dokumentiert sein, das sie eindeutig reproduziert werden kann. Umgekehrt: Ein Versuch, der aufgrund ungenauer Beschreibung nicht reproduziert werden kann, falsifiziert das Ergebnis des ersten Versuches ebenso wie ein abweichendes Ergebnis bei präziser Wiederholung. [[Benutzer:Dietrich|Dietrich]] 18:09, 12. Nov 2006 (CEST)

== 6 neu ==

== Vorschlag ==

Ich denk, man sollte beide Formen zulassen und durch eine Markierung kennzeichnen, ob es sich bei dem jeweiligen Projekt um originäre wissenschaftliche Arbeit oder um ein Sekundärwissenschaftliches Thema handelt. Mir schwebt da so etwas in der Art der &quot;This is a Stub&quot;-Hinweise in der englischen Wikipedia vor. Vielleicht lässt sich aus eine Art Projektbeschreibungsseite neben dem eigentlichen Projekttext einrichten, auf der dann das Projekt ausführlich beschrieben werden kann (Ähnlich wie die User-Seiten)
[[User:Joergel|Joergel]] 11:35, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

== Fragen ==
*a) Ist es ja oder nein möglich, im Rahmen der Wikiversity Originalforschung zu betreiben?
*b) Inzwischen wimmelt es von verschiedenen Seiten, auf denen über Ziel und Funktion der Wikiversity nachgedacht wird. Wäre es nicht möglich, einen einzigen Raum dafür auszuweisen, mit Frank Schulenburg als Moderator (denn er hat schließlich die Wikiversity ins Leben gerufen).


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;What is Wikiversity?
:Wikiversity is a new Wikimedia project&lt;ref&gt;Board resolution: [[wikimedia:Resolution Wikiversity]]&lt;/ref&gt; exploring ways to use the power of wiki to support online learning. This new project will be in beta phase during the first six months&lt;ref&gt;Anthere's mail about Wikiversity: http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2006-August/009074.html&lt;/ref&gt;.


;What is Wikiversity Beta?
:Wikiversity Beta is a global platform aiming at coordinating Wikiversity projects in several languages. This multilingual coordination intends to deal with Wikiversity's mission and general guidelines of the project's scope (for example, about original research). Wikiversity Beta is also a place where Wikiversity projects which don't have a subdomain yet can develop.
:In a nutshell, Wikiversity Beta is both a meta-wiki and an incubator for Wikiversity projects.


;How is it possible to have so many languages coexisting on Beta without it becoming a mess?
:Wikiversity Beta intends to take advantage of the input of its many participants (not only English-speakers). Multilingual discussions should not only coexist, but live in symbiosis. A [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/En|multilingual discussion system]] has been proposed to manage them so non-English speakers can take part in discussions. Moreover, Beta is using the ''[[Wikiversity:Language select/En|Language select]]'' feature developped on Meta, which allows users to hide foreign languages on multilingual pages.


;What about separate Wikiversity projects which already have their own subdomain?
:Those [[Wikiversity:Separate projects|separate projects]] are growing their way. However, their participants are strongly encouraged to take part into discussions about general guidelines that will apply to all Wikiversity projects. Moreover, they are encouraged to post [[Wikiversity:Reports/En|reports]] about their projects to let everybody know about how it grows.


;What's next?
:Now we need people to take part in the discussions on Wikiversity Beta. People from existing separate projects and people willing to contribute to a future separate project should join the discussions and work together. People who do not speak English are encouraged to take part in discussions but we also need volunteer translators to translate the talk summaries.


;Your multilingual system will never work. It requires too many translators.
:If people really sum up their discussions, not only this will help them to focus on important things but it will not take much time to translate them. Ten days after Beta opening, its main page is already available in five languages. 
:By the way, it is just a proposal. Hey, if everybody speaks english, very well, we won't have anything to translate. If the system does not work, at least we can say we tried.


;For a coordination project, it would be much more practical if a single language of discussion is chosen.
:Of course it would be more practical; the question is: should we manage Beta the way that is easier for us English speakers or should we manage it the way everybody can take part in discussions about guidelines that will apply to all projects?


;Wikiversity Beta Motto?
:The shorter, the better. If you want your ideas to reach people speaking other languages, write short and understandable summaries. 


;What does Wikiversity Beta offer over Meta?
:Wikiversity Beta formulate new (within Wikimedia Foundation projects) research policies for wikiversity.
:Wikiversity Beta attempts to be a multi-lingual discussion platform.

;Why do we need a Wikiversity Beta instead of using the Wikimedia Incubator?
:


;What about Wikiversity projects that are currently on Wikibooks, including non-English versions of Wikiversity?
:


;What is the sense behind splitting Wikiversity up into various separated language Wikies? Would it not be better to create courses and research reports in a multilingual environment such as Beta and have them translated in as many langages as translators see fit when new pages and documents become available?
:


== Notes and references ==

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== 1 ==
'''''Wikiversity ist ein Zentrum für die Schaffung und Nutzung freier Lernmaterialien und Lernaktivitäten''''' Seine obersten Prioritäten und Ziele sind:

*Die Schaffung und Bereitstellung eines Angebots an freien, mehrsprachigen Lernmaterialien und -ressourcen für alle Altersgruppen und in allen Sprachen
*Die Bereitstellung einer Plattform für Wissenschafts- und Lern-Projekte und die Gemeinschaften, die diese Materialien unterstützen.
*Die Vervollständigung und Fortentwicklung bestehender Wikimediaprojekte (z.B. ein Projekt zur Auffindung guter Quellen für Wikipediaartikel)

Zur Erfüllung dieser Ziele können andere Aufgaben und Ziele von Teilnehmern angestoßen und entwickelt werden, um das Lernen und die Schaffung neuer Inhalte zu fördern. In Besonderheit werden während der Beta-Phase Richtlinien entwickelt werden, die die Bereitstellung und Unterstützung von ''Forschung'' betreffen, die zum Teil auf Ressourcen in Wikiversity und anderen Wikimediaprojekten beruht.

'''Quelle'''
*[http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Approved_Wikiversity_project_proposal Bestätigter Wikiversity Projektantrag]

'''Siehe auch'''
*[[Wikiversity:Research|Wikiversity:Forschung (engl.)]]

== 2 ==
''[Folgendes ist ein Vorschlag zur Verbreiterung und Präzisierung des bisherigen Ansatzes:]''&lt;br /&gt;
'''Wikiversity''' ist eine Plattform zur gemeinschaftlichen Bearbeitung wissenschaftlicher Projekte, zum Gedankenaustausch in fachwissenschaftlichen Fragen und zur Erstellung freier Kursmaterialien:

* '''Gemeinschaftliche Bearbeitung wissenschaftlicher Projekte''' – Wikiversity bietet eine offene Plattform, gemeinsam mit Anderen an wissenschaftlichen Projekten zu arbeiten.  Im Gegensatz zu traditionellen Universitäten, wo Forschung noch immer allzu häufig in der Abgeschiedenheit der Gelehrtenstube stattfindet, ist Wikiversity auf Offenheit und Austausch ausgerichtet. Die freie und offene Zusammenarbeit mit Fachkollegen, Projektteilnehmern aus anderen Wissensgebieten und interessierten Laien führt zu einer Erhöhung von Interdisziplinarität, Transparenz und Verständlichkeit im wissenschaftlichen Forschungsprozess. Durch Wikiversity wird es räumlich getrennten Forschern möglich, kooperativ zu arbeiten, ohne dafür eine eigene technische Infrastruktur aufbauen zu müssen.

* '''Gedankenaustausch in fachwissenschaftlichen Fragen''' – Vernetzung ist eines der Stichworte des 21. Jahrhunderts. Seit dem Siegeszug des Internets in allen Fragen des privaten und beruflichen Lebens ist klar, dass Webplattformen ideale Bedingungen für den gedanklichen Austausch über Fach- und Interessengrenzen hinweg bieten. Dies gilt in besonderem Maße für den wissenschaftlichen Bereich. Wikiversity hat es sich zum Ziel gesetzt, genau diese Form der wissenschaftlichen Kommunikation gezielt zu fördern und geeignete Rahmenbedingungen herzustellen, um einen fächer- und universitätsübergreifenden Gedanken- und Ideenaustausch zu stärken.

* '''Erstellung freier Kurs- und Lernmaterialien''' – Durch die Entwicklung und Bereitstellung freier Kurs- und Lernmaterialien soll der ungehinderte Zugang zum Wissen verbessert und ausgebaut werden. Die offene Wissensplattform von Wikiversity ermöglicht allen Projektteilnehmern und Besuchern den freien und uneingeschränkten Zugriff auf mehrsprachige, multimediale und qualitativ hochwertige Lehr- und Lernmaterialen. Lehrpläne und -ziele werden im gegenseitigen Austausch gemeinschaftlich entwickelt. Als Lehrplattform bietet Wikiversity neben der Möglichkeit einer praktischen Erprobung didaktischer Konzepte vor allem die Chance der aktiven Konstruktion des Wissens durch den Lerner selbst („Lernen durch Lehren“).


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== 1 ==
''Résumé des interventions des participants anglophones''

La [[Wikiversity talk:Scope of research/Fr|page de discussion]] de &quot;Champs de recherche&quot; concerne la nature des activités ou [[Wikiversity:Original research|champs de recherche]] qui pourraient être autorisées au sein de la Wikiversité.
# études bibliographiques productrices de connaissance 
# projets de recherche qui utilisent des méthodes de recherche en plus des études bibliographiques ([http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Bloom_clock_project  exemple : Bloom_clock_project issu de la Wikiversity anglophone]).
# projets de recherche collaboratifs impliquant des chercheurs d'institutions externes à la Wikiversity ([http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Astronomy_Project exemple : projet d'astronomie issu de la Wikiversity anglophone]).

== 2 ==
''Résumé des participants germanophones'' :

&quot;Tout d'abord une observation de caractère général: la distinction entre recherche &quot;primaire&quot; et &quot;secondaire&quot; est inconnue dans la culture allemande. Ainsi, le seul terme significatif ici est &quot;recherche&quot; et comme tel, ce terme implique un ensemble de méthodologies critiques qui transcendent le simple littéraire (the merely literary ?)&lt;!-- y'a un surement un os--&gt;.
 
1. La discussion devrait commencer avec la définition du mot &quot;recherche&quot;. Ensuite, nous aimerions suggérer la définition suivante, qui est commune dans les entreprises scientifiques germanophones : &quot;une recherche méthodique pour la connaissance&quot;.

2. De notre point de vue, la définition de la &quot;recherche&quot; en elle-meme est en grande partie dépendante de la discipline. Il en découle que les spécialistes d'un domaine pour un domaine donné devraient décider par eux memes ce que veut dire le mot &quot;recherche&quot; et quelle sorte de recherche pourrait etre faite. Une régle universelle reliant tous les domaines spécialisés dans Wikiversity nous parait problématique.

3. Jusqu'à maintenant, les versions dans les languages individuels des différents projets wikimedia ont indépendement déterminé leur propre contenu et direction, ainsi que leurs procédures opérationnelles internes (par exemple, aussi bien la wikipedia germanophone que la wikisource germanophone diffèrent de manière substancielle avec leurs contreparties anglophones). Ce fait est positif dans le sens où il contribue à la diversité intellectuelle et ce principe devrait etre appliqué à la Wikiversity aussi. Ainsi nous proposons que la décision, c'est-à-dire quel type de recherche serait permis, devrait etre laissée individuellement aux domaines spécialisés aussi bien qu'aux versions linguistiques.&quot;

== 3 ==
Résumé des interventions des participants anglophones

Cette page [[Wikiversity:Research/En]] doit être traduite en Allemand. Elle inclut les instructions du comité de la fondation Wikimedia au sujet de la façon dont la communauté entière de Wikiversity doit développer UNE politique pour la recherche qui s'appliquera à l'ensemble du projet Wikiversity.&lt;br/&gt;

Même si le terme &quot;recherche originale&quot; n'est pas bien connu des Allemands, il est d'une grande importance pour le comitéde la fondation Wikimedia. Le terme &quot;recherche originale&quot; est mentionné sur Wikipedia:Theoriefindung. La distinction à faire est entre :&lt;br/&gt;
1) les formes &quot;de recherche secondaire&quot; (travail bibliographique) comme sur Wikipedia dans le cadre de la politique &quot;pas de recherche originale&quot;&lt;br/&gt;
et&lt;br/&gt;
2) d'autres formes de recherche qui ne seraient pas possibles si Wikiversity adopte également la politique &quot;pas de recherche originale&quot;.&lt;br/&gt;

Si Wikiversity va avoir des types d'activité de recherche qui ne sont pas restreintes à la politique &quot;pas de recherche originale&quot;, alors Wikiversity doit établir des lignes de conduite pour de telles recherches qui seront effectuées dans TOUTES LES langues.

== 4 ==
Après réflexion,  [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity_translations/7_September_IRC nous sur IRC # wikiversity-en] sommes arrivés à la conclusion que la meilleure traduction doit probablement diviser les catégories en &quot;recherche comparative et recherche avancée (single-focus ?)&quot;. Une autre traduction ne semble pas avoir beaucoup de sens. De même l'expression suivante &quot;recherche active&quot; est plutôt étrange et est employée dans un contexte différent. [http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:Aschoeke Aschoeke]

== 5 ==
Je vois une partie de la distinction &quot;recherche originale/recherche secondaire&quot; dans les termes allemands :  „empirische Forschung“/„Literaturstudium und Dokumentation“ (i.e. &quot;recherche empirique&quot;/&quot;recherche bibliographique et documentation&quot;). -- Purodha 00:55, 7 Septembre 2006 (UTC)

Si le règlement du comité signifie implémenter la règle de Wikipedia &quot;aucune recherche originale&quot; ici, alors nous devrions amha renommer le projet en &quot;Wiki-faculté&quot; (&quot;Wiki-College&quot; sur la version en). -- Purodha 00:55, 7 septembre 2006 (UTC)

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'''[[wikipedia:fr:User:JmG|fr Wikipedia]]''' |
'''[[:en:User:JmG|en Wikiversity]]'''

Soon ? &lt;nowiki&gt;[[:fr:User:JmG|fr Wikiversity]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;
Yes ! [[:fr:User:JmG|fr Wikiversity]]

[[User:JmG/Apprentissage]] à supprimer
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      <comment>Translation of report into Spanish</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">== 5 de septiembre 2006 La Wikiversidad en español==
Tal y como algunos ya sabréis, la Wikivesidad en español fue muy activa antes de que el proyecto fuera aprobado oficialmente por el &quot;Board&quot;, especialmente a finales de 2004. Si os interesa, podéis ver [http://es.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Especial%3AAllpages&amp;from=&amp;namespace=102 en este enlace] que existen entre unas 200 o 300 páginas en el espacio de nombres &quot;Wikiversidad&quot; de Wikilibros en español. Lamentablemente, el futuro incierto del proyecto, y el tiempo de espera para su aprobación hizo que los miembros más activos se fueran, y ahora la Wikiversidad en español no tiene actividad, salvo pequeñas ediciones irregulares. 

He estado intentando entrar en contacto con quienes participaron pero no es fácil: muchos de ellos nunca han participado o ya no participan en ningún otro proyecto de Wikimedia y no hay manera de enviarles un email.

Debido a la gran cantidad de páginas en el dominio Wikiversidad, y a que no tiene actividad por el momento, no dan muchas ganas de mover todo eso a v:Beta, sobre todo si luego tenemos que volverlo a mover a v:es:. No creo que tenga mucho sentido el hacerlo.

Por eso la Wikiversidad en español parece que continuará en b:es, (al no ser que a alguien le apetezca mover todo ese material a v:Beta), hasta que seamos los suficientes para crear v:es:.

Y eso es todo amigos, si alguien quiere participar en el relanzamiento de la Wikiversidad, puedes contar conmigo, escríbeme un mensaje [http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario_Discusi%C3%B3n:Javier_Carro|aquí], gracias. --[[User:Javier Carro|Javier Carro]] 17:01, 5 September 2006 (UTC)</text>
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        <username>Javier Carro</username>
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      <comment>#Redirect:[http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario:Javier_Carro]</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">#Redirect:[http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario:Javier_Carro]</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Help:FAQ/Fr</title>
    <id>1751</id>
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      <contributor>
        <ip>193.251.53.202</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>lien vers la page de requête de nouvelles langue sur meta</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Help:FAQ}}

;Qu'est-ce que Wikiversity ?
:Wikiversity est un projet de la Fondation Wikimedia&lt;ref&gt;Résolution du conseil d'administration : [[wikimedia:Resolution Wikiversity]]&lt;/ref&gt;, ayant pour but d'explorer les manières de tirer profit de la technologie wiki pour l'enseignement en ligne. Ce projet sera en phase de test (phase ''beta'') pendant les six premiers mois&lt;ref&gt;Mail d'Anthere à propos de Wikiversity : http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2006-August/009074.html&lt;/ref&gt;.


;Qu'est-ce que Wikiversity Beta ?
:Wikiversity beta est une plate-forme centrale servant à coordonner les différents projets Wikiversity dans différentes langues. Cette coordination multilingue concerne les missions et les directives générales du cadre des projets Wikiversity (par exemple à propos des travaux de recherche originaux). Wikiversity beta sert également d'incubateur pour que des projets Wikiversity qui n'ont pas pour le moment de sous-domaine dédié puissent se développer.
:En résumé, Wikiversity Beta est à la fois un ''meta-wiki'' et un incubateur pour les projets Wikiversity.


;Comment peut-on faire cohabiter autant de langues différentes sur Beta sans que ça devienne le bazar ?
:Wikiversity Beta souhaite profiter de la participation de tous ses participants, et pas seulement des anglophones. Les discussions multilingues ne devraient pas seulement cohabiter, mais vivre en symbiose. Un [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/Fr|système de discussion multilingue]] a été proposé afin de gérer ces discussions, de façon à ce que les non-anglophones puissent prendre part aux discussions. De plus, Beta utilise la fonctionnalité d'''[[Wikiversity:Language select/En|affichage selon la langue]]'', qui permet aux utilisateurs de masquer, sur une page multilingue, les informations qui ne sont pas dans leur langue.


;''Quid'' des projets Wikiversity séparés possédant déjà leur propre sous-domaine ?
:Ces [[Wikiversity:Separate projects|projets séparés]] grandissent de leur côté. Cependant, leurs participants sont fortement encouragés à prendre part aux discussions à propos des directives générales qui vont s'appliquer ensuite à tous les projets Wikiversity. Par ailleurs, ils sont encouragés à proposer des [[Wikiversity:Reports|rapports]] à propos de l'évolution de leurs projets, afin d'en informer les autres participants.


;Et ensuite ?
:Maintenant, nous avons besoin de gens pour participer aux discussions sur Wikiversity Beta. Ces discussions concernent autant les participants des projets séparés existants que ceux des futurs projets, et tous devraient travailler ensemble. Les personnes ne parlant pas anglais sont encouragés à prendre part aux discussions, mais nous avons également besoin de traducteurs pour traduire les résumés des discussions.


;Ce système multilingue ne fonctionnera jamais. Cela demande trop de traducteurs.
:Si les participants résument réellement leurs discussions, non seulement cela les aidera à se concentrer sur les points importants, mais en plus cela ne prendra pas beaucoup de temps aux traducteurs pour traduire les résumés. Dix jours après l'ouverture de Beta, sa page d'accueil  était déjà disponible en cinq langues.
:D'ailleurs, ce système n'est qu'une proposition. Si tous les participants parlent anglais, très bien, nous n'aurons pas besoin de traduire quoi que ce soit. Si le système ne fonctionne pas, au moins nous aurons essayé.


;Pour un projet de coordination, il serait beaucoup plus pratique de ne choisir qu'une seule langue de discussion.
:Bien sûr, ce serait plus pratique. La question importante est : devons-nous gérer Beta de la manière qui est la plus pratique pour nous, anglophones, ou de la manière qui permet à tous les participants de prendre part aux discussions à propos de directives qui vont s'appliquer ensuite à tous les projets ?


;Le slogan de Wikiversity Beta ?
:Le plus court est le mieux. Si vous voulez que vos idées parviennent aux participants des autres langues, écrivez des résumés concis et compréhensibles.


;Comment créer Wikiversité, un Wikiversity français?
:Peut-être via [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages#French_Wikiversity cette page]?

== Notes et references ==

&lt;references /&gt;

[[Category:FR]]</text>
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    <title>User:Kalogeropoulos</title>
    <id>1752</id>
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      <id>2652</id>
      <timestamp>2006-09-06T00:00:36Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Kalogeropoulos</username>
        <id>58</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">K. Kalogeropoulos from greek wikipedia</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Help:FAQ/De</title>
    <id>1753</id>
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      <id>2656</id>
      <timestamp>2006-09-06T00:16:08Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Purodha</username>
        <id>45</id>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <comment>-typos</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Help:FAQ}}


;Was ist Wikiversity?
:Wikiversity ist ein neues Projekt der Wikimedia &lt;ref&gt;Vorstandsbeschluß: [[wikimedia:Resolution Wikiversity]]&lt;/ref&gt; Wege zu erforschen, um die Stärken der Wikis zu nutzen, das Online-Lernen zu fördern. Dieses Projekt wird eine sogenannte Beta-Phase von sechs Monaten durchlaufen&lt;ref&gt;Antheres e-mail über die Wikiversity: http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2006-August/009074.html&lt;/ref&gt;.


;Was ist Wikiversity Beta?
:Wikiversity Beta ist eine globale Platform und zielt auf die Koordination von Projekten der Wikiversity in vielen Sprachen ab. Diese mehrsprachige und sprachenübergreifende Zusammenarbeit möchte mit dem Ziel des Projekt, seinen Vorgaben und generellen Richtlinien umgehen, wie seinen Anwendungsbereichen. Dazu gehört beispielsweise die eiene Forschung. Wikiversity Beta ist ebenfalls ein Ort, an dem ein Anfang gemacht werden kann in Sprachen, für die noch keine eigene Subdomain eingerichtet ist.
:Kurz gesagt, für diejenigen, die sich mit den existierenden Wikimedia-Wiki auskennen, ist Wikiversity Beta sowohl ein Metawiki und ein Inkubator für die Sprachprojekte der Wikiversity.


;Wie können so viele Sprachen parallel benutzt werden, ohne einen heillosen Durcheinander zu schaffen.
:Wikiversity Beta möchte die Eingaben seiner Vielzahl an Beteiligten nutzen, nicht nur de Englischsprechenden. Mehrsprachige Gespräche und Diskussionen sollten nicht nur nebeneinanderherlaufen, sondern in Symbiose leben. Ein [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/De|mehrsprachiges Discussionssystem]] ist vorgeschlagen, um zu erreichen, das Nicht-Englishsprachige sich an Diskussionen beteiligen können. Darüberhinaus benutzt Wikiversity Beta die auf Meta-Wiki entwickelte ''[[Wikiversity:Language select/De|Sprachwahl]]'', das bei mehrsprachigen Seiten ermöglicht, die Fremdsprechen auszublenden.


;Was ist mit den getrennten Wikiversity Sprachversionen mit eigener Subdomain?
:Diese [[Wikiversity:Separate projects|getrennten Projekte]] wachsen ihren eigenen Weg. Allerdings sind ihre Mitstreiter aufgerufen, an den Gesprächen teilzunehmen, die die generellen Richtlinien zu enwickeln, welche für alle Projekte der Wikiversity Gültigkeit besitzen. Darüberhinaus werden sie auch gebeten, über ihre Projekte [[Wikiversity:Reports|zu berichten]], so daß Jeder darüber bescheidwissen kann.


;Was kommt als Nächstes?
:Wir brauchen nun Leute, die an den Gesprächen auf Wikiversity Beta teilnehmen. Menschen aus bestehenden eigenständigen Projekten und solche, die zu kommenden eigenständigen Projekten beitragen möchten, sollten sich in diesen Gesprächen zusammenfinden und zusammanarbeiten. Menschen, die kein Englisch sprechen, sollten sich auf jeden Fall an Gesprächen beteiligen, aber wir benötigen auch Übersetzer für die Zusammenfassungen von Gesprächen


;Dieses System der Mehrsprachigkeit funktioniert nicht. Es bedarf zu vieler Übersetzer.
:Wenn Leute ihre Gespräche wirklich zusammenfassen, hilft das denen nicht nur, sich auf die wichtigen Dinge zu konzentrieren, sondern es wird auch wenig Zeit nötig sein, sie zu übersetzen. Zehn tage nach dem Start des Wikis, ist die Eingangsseite bereits in fünf Sprachen verfügbar.
:Ansonsten, dies ist nur ein Vorschlag. Wenn alle Englisch sprechen, wunderbar, dann bracht nichts übersetzt zu werden. Sollte das System tatsächlich nicht funktionieren, dann können wir uns wenigsten zugute halten, wir haben es versucht.


;Für ein Koordinationsprojet wäre es praktischer, eine einzige Vermittlungssprache zu wählen.
:Das wäre vielleicht praktischer; die eigentliche Frage ist aber: Sollten wir Wikiversity Beta in einer Weise betreiben, die einfacher für die Englischsprechenden unter uns ist oder so, daß sich Jeder an den Gesprächen über allgemeine und gemeinsame Richtlinien für alle Projekte beteiligen kann?


;Das Motto der Wikiversity Beta?
:Je kürzer, desto besser. Wer möchte, daß seine Ideen Menschen in andern Sprachen erreicht, schreibt kurze und verständliche Zusammenfassungen.


== Anmerkungen und Referenzen ==

&lt;references /&gt;

[[Category:DE]]</text>
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    <title>Wikiversity talk:Reports/Es</title>
    <id>1754</id>
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      <id>2662</id>
      <timestamp>2006-09-06T16:32:20Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Javier Carro</username>
        <id>57</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>I think that is the best solution. --Javier Carro 16:32, 6 September 2006 (UTC)</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">There are [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages#Spanish_Wikiversity 10 supporters] for a Spanish language Wikiversity. Why not request the launch of a Spanish Wikiversity (es.wikiversity.org)? This would mean '''not''' having to temporarily work at beta.wikiversity.org. and pages could be imported from es.wikibooks to es.wikiversity. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 01:25, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

:I think that is the best solution. --[[User:Javier Carro|Javier Carro]] 16:32, 6 September 2006 (UTC)</text>
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    <title>Houpsigk</title>
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        <username>Guillom</username>
        <id>4</id>
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      <minor />
      <comment>{{Main page interwikis}}</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">{{main page}}
{{Frame|Wikiversity:Announcements/De}}__NOTOC__


==Wat eß de Wikkiversität Beta?==

Dat Projäk hee, Wikkiversität Beta, weed jebruch alls_en Büün un en Forum för Alle, wo et dröm jëijt,
de Väsjohne fun de Wikkiversität en de ungerscheedlijje Shprooche zesamme ze brenge un affzeshtemme.
De '''[[Wikiversity:Multilingualism|miehshproochijje]]''' Zosamme_Ärrbëijdt sull de [[Wikiversity:Mission|Fürshtëllunge fun de Ziile]] fun de Wikkiversitäte klöökrijje un de alljemëijne [[#Richtlinien|Jrundsäz un Rejelle]] fun dämm Projëgk wiggo äntwekkelle, zem Bëjshpill wat met ëijenne Fochschung sinn sull.

Ußßodämm deent de Wikkiversität Beta — wi_jen Glokk bem Brööde — fö neu Shprooche_Väsjohne fürzeberëjde.
De [[:en:Wikiversity:Main Page|ënglėshe]] un_de [[:de:Hauptseite|deutsche]] Wikkiversität senn alld alß [[Wikiversity:separate projects|ëijenshtändijje Projëkte]] aanjefange woode.

'''Wänn_De_en nöüje Wikkiversität jrönde wellß''', da sullz_De winnishßtenß zeen Medmaacher do_föe hann, un di sullte sėsh och ääsh med Ärrbëjt en Dinge Sprooch ennbrënge. Wann dadd_esu eß, künnd_Er Üsh em Metta_Wikki fun de „Wikimedia Foundation“ op dä Sigk „[[m:Requests for new languages#Requests for Wikiversity Languages|Requests for Wikiversity Languages]]“ mällde un do enndraare, dat_Er en nöü Sprooche_Väsjohn maache wullt. Dobëij doohlt alld_ens de Houpsigk fö Ding Shprooch och den dä Schabloon 
[[Template:Main page]] bëij.

== Jrundsäz un Räjelle ==
''Sidd_esu jood, dooht med hëllefe, onß ingenazjonahle Räjelle un Jrundsäz fö_all_dė Wikkiversitäte ze övvosäzze, ußzeboue un_ze äntwekkelle.'''
*[[Wikiversity:Scope of research|Scope of research]] — sull in de Wikkiversitäte et Fochsche äloub sin? 
*[[Wikiversity:Research guidelines|Fochschungkß_Räjelle]] — wat fö_n Räjelle sinn nüüdesh, domet de Fochschunge en de Wikkiversitäte med de akkademishe Aansprösh med kumme un med hallde künne?

== Weed füürberëjdt ==
* En Pooz em Ingernet fö alle Shprooche küdd_op http://www.wikiversity.org &lt;br /&gt; [[m:Talk:Www.wikiversity.org template|Maach med be_m Klaav_op Metta]].
* Maach med [[m:Wikiversity/logo|bem Wëttbewërrep fö_de Wikiversität ier Logo]].

== Schwësto_Projägkte ==
{{Sisterprojects/Ksh}}
{{Main page interwikis}}</text>
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      <contributor>
        <username>Hillgentleman</username>
        <id>30</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Wikiversity:Language select}}

''En ußföerlishe Ennfommazjon övver dat all hee eß op [[m:Meta:Language select|Meta:Language select]].''

De '''[[m:Meta:Language select|Shprooche_Waal]]''' määd_et mööshlesh, de anndere Shprooche fun_de miihshproochijje Sigge uß_ze_blënnde. Esu künne de Minnsche uß Frankrish sejj_op alle miihshproochijje Sigge nuur franzüüsėsh zëije loohße; wänn_ävver_en Sigk nuur op Pochtojeesesch jeschrevve eß, do süüt_e och nigs_anndoß wi pochtojeesesch. 

== En Sprooch wäähle ==

* En Shprooch weed als_en Fürëijnshtëllung ußjewääldt, wäm_mer enne [[List of ISO 639-1 codes|ISO 639 Kood]] en onge dat Fälld enndrääht (&lt;code&gt;ksh&lt;/code&gt; fö_Kölsch, &lt;code&gt;de&lt;/code&gt; fö_Deutsch, &lt;code&gt;nl&lt;/code&gt; fö_Hollesj) un_do_nooh op &lt;big&gt;➤&lt;/big&gt; klėck.
* Wäm_mer alle Shprooche aanluuere well, jitt_mer &lt;code&gt;mul&lt;/code&gt; enn, oddo mer klėgg_op &lt;big&gt;⋙&lt;/big&gt;.

== Bruche ==
&lt;!--
=== Miihshproochijje Sigge identifying ===
Seiten, in denen das System ''Language select'' zur Anwendung kommt, enthalten eine Schabloon
{{tl|multilingual}}.
--&gt;
=== JavaScript ===
Dat java_Skrebb_eß shtanndadmääßesch en_de Ennshtällonge fun de Wikkiversität Beta aanjeschalldt.
Wä adt loßß_hann_well, dä dräht en singe [[Special:Mypage/monobook.js|Medmaacher_monobook.js]] noch enn: &lt;pre&gt;ls_enable = false;&lt;/pre&gt;

Hee dronger küdd_e Bëjshpill fö_dat Skrepp. Wänn_de Shprooche_Waal ußjeschalldt_eß, da süüt mo_do_jannze Täx.

&lt;div class=&quot;multilingual&quot;&gt;
{{ls|de|Dieser Text liegt auf Deutsch vor.}}
{{ls|en|This text is English.}}
{{ls|fr|Ce texte est Français.}}
{{ls|pt|Este texto está em Português.}}
{{ls|sc|Custu testu est in Sardu.}}
{{ls|ksh|Hee_dä Täx jidd_et orr_op Kölsch.}}
{{ls|la|Haec nota Latine scriptus est.}}
{{ls|zh|中文!}}
&lt;/div&gt;

Dat Java_Skrėp kannz_E bëj &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[{{fullurl:MediaWiki:Monobook.js|action=render}} MediaWiki:Monobook.js]&lt;/span&gt; beluuere.

== Shprooche Opsäze ==

De Schabloon {{[[Template:ls|ls]]}} määt_de Shprooche_Waal (''Language select'') lëijsh:

&lt;pre&gt;{{ls|ksh|Hee_dä Täx jidd_et orr_op Kölsch.}}
&lt;/pre&gt;


[[Category:Multilingualism]]
[[Category:KSH]]</text>
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      <contributor>
        <username>Slade</username>
        <id>20</id>
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      <minor />
      <comment>+cat</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:Users by language|pt]] [[category:PT]]</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:User pt]]</text>
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      <contributor>
        <username>Purodha</username>
        <id>45</id>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:Users by language|es]]</text>
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    <title>Category:Users pt en-1</title>
    <id>1760</id>
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      <contributor>
        <username>555</username>
        <id>9</id>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:User pt]]</text>
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    <title>Category:User pt-3</title>
    <id>1761</id>
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      <contributor>
        <username>555</username>
        <id>9</id>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">
[[Category:User pt]]</text>
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    <title>Category:User pt-2</title>
    <id>1762</id>
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      <contributor>
        <username>555</username>
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[[Category:User pt]]</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Category:User pt-1</title>
    <id>1763</id>
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      <contributor>
        <username>555</username>
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[[Category:User pt]]</text>
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    <title>Category:KSH</title>
    <id>1764</id>
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      <contributor>
        <username>Purodha</username>
        <id>45</id>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">''En hee dä Saachjrop sinn Sigge op Kölsch.''

[[Category:Pages by language]]</text>
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    <title>User:Andre315</title>
    <id>1765</id>
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      <id>2804</id>
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      <contributor>
        <username>Andre315</username>
        <id>60</id>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Babel|fr|it-3|en-3}}
&lt;div class=&quot;multilingual&quot;&gt;
{{ls|en|Hi, my main account is on the french speaking [[wikipedia:fr:Utilisateur:Andre315|wikipedia]].&lt;/br&gt;&lt;/br&gt;.}}
{{ls|fr|Bonjour, ma page principale se trouve sur la [[wikipedia:fr:Utilisateur:Andre315|wikipedia]] francophone.&lt;/br&gt;&lt;/br&gt;.}}
{{ls|it|Ciao, la mia pagina principale è sulla [[wikipedia:fr:Utilisateur:Andre315|wikipedia]] francofona.&lt;/br&gt;&lt;/br&gt;.}}
&lt;/div&gt;</text>
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      <contributor>
        <username>Andre315</username>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Category:User it| ]]</text>
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    <id>1767</id>
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      <contributor>
        <username>Andre315</username>
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  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User ksh</title>
    <id>1768</id>
    <revision>
      <id>2719</id>
      <timestamp>2006-04-08T07:43:59Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Dbach</ip>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #6EF7A7 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
{| cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#C5FCDC&quot;
| style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#6EF7A7;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot; | '''ksh'''
| style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot; | Däm Medmaacher sing '''[[:Category:User ksh|Motterschprooch]]''' es en '''[[:Category:User ksh|Shprooch vum Rhing]].'''[[Category:User ksh|{{PAGENAME}}]] [[Category:User ksh-N|{{PAGENAME}}]]
|}
&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User ksh-4</title>
    <id>1769</id>
    <revision>
      <id>2722</id>
      <timestamp>2006-04-08T07:45:21Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Dbach</ip>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #C0C8FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
{| cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#FFFF99&quot;
| style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#FFFF00;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot; | '''ksh-4'''
| style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot; | Dä Medmaacher schwaadt '''[[:Category:User ksh|en Sprooch vum Rhing]]''' als wöör_et sing '''[[:Category:User ksh-4|Muttersprooch]].'''. [[Category:User ksh|{{PAGENAME}}]] [[Category:User ksh-4|{{PAGENAME}}]]
|} &lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User ksh-3</title>
    <id>1770</id>
    <revision>
      <id>2725</id>
      <timestamp>2006-04-08T07:44:58Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Dbach</ip>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #C0C8FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
{| cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#E0E8FF&quot;
| style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#99B3FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot; | '''ksh-3'''
| style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot; | Dä Medmaacher schwaadt en '''[[:Category:User ksh|Sprooch vum Rhing]]''' '''[[:Category:User ksh-3|wie jeck]].'''. [[Category:User ksh|{{PAGENAME}}]] [[Category:User ksh-3|{{PAGENAME}}]]
|} &lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User ksh-2</title>
    <id>1771</id>
    <revision>
      <id>2728</id>
      <timestamp>2006-04-08T07:44:40Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Dbach</ip>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #C0C8FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
{| cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#D0F8FF&quot;
| style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#77E0E8;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot; | '''ksh-2'''
| style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot; | Dä Medmaacher schwaadt '''[[:Category:User ksh-2|jet]]''' vunn ener '''[[:Category:User ksh| Sprooch vum Rhing]]. [[Category:User ksh|{{PAGENAME}}]] [[Category:User ksh-2|{{PAGENAME}}]]
|} &lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User ksh-1</title>
    <id>1772</id>
    <revision>
      <id>2731</id>
      <timestamp>2006-04-08T07:44:22Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Dbach</ip>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #C0C8FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
{| cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#F0F8FF&quot;
| style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#C0C8FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot; | '''ksh-1'''
| style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot; | Dä Medmaacher kann jet vunn ener '''[[:Category:User ksh|Sprooch vum Rhing]]''' '''[[:Category:User ksh-1|verstonn]].'''. [[Category:User ksh|{{PAGENAME}}]] [[Category:User ksh-1|{{PAGENAME}}]]
|} &lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User la-3</title>
    <id>1773</id>
    <revision>
      <id>2735</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-02T02:36:24Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Fix wording: conform to style used at la.wp (&quot;usor&quot;).</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #99B3FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#E0E8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#99B3FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''la-3'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Hic usor '''[[:Category:User la-3|callidissima]]''' '''[[:Category:User la|latinitate]]''' contribuere potest.[[Category:User la|{{PAGENAME}}]][[Category:User la-3|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User la-2</title>
    <id>1774</id>
    <revision>
      <id>2938</id>
      <timestamp>2006-09-10T12:34:33Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Purodha</username>
        <id>45</id>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <comment>+ Category:User la</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #77E0E8 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#D0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#77E0E8;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''la-2'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;
Hic usor '''[[:Category:User la-2|media]]''' '''[[:Category:User la|latinitate]]''' contribuere potest.[[Category:User la|{{PAGENAME}}]][[Category:User la-2|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User la-1</title>
    <id>1775</id>
    <revision>
      <id>2750</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-09T18:59:38Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Adjusting color code of template for level 1 proficiency.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #C0C8FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#F0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#C0C8FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''la-1'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Hic usor '''[[:Category:User la-1|simplice]]''' '''[[:Category:User la|latinitate]]''' contribuere potest.[[Category:User la-1|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User af</title>
    <id>1776</id>
    <revision>
      <id>2752</id>
      <timestamp>2005-03-19T11:03:52Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Jeandré</ip>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <comment>Translation of Template:User_en.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #6EF7A7 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#C5FCDC&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#6EF7A7;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''af'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Hierdie gebruiker se eerste taal is '''[[:Category:User af|Afrikaans]]'''.[[Category:User af|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User af-3</title>
    <id>1777</id>
    <revision>
      <id>2754</id>
      <timestamp>2005-06-25T10:03:16Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>198.54.202.250</ip>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #99B3FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#E0E8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#99B3FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''af-3'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Hierdie gebruiker het 'n '''uitstekende''' begrip van '''[[:Category:User af|Afrikaans]]'''.&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;

[[Category:User af|{{PAGENAME}}]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User af-2</title>
    <id>1778</id>
    <revision>
      <id>2758</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-09T16:02:09Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Adjusting color code of template for level 2 proficiency.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #77E0E8 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#D0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#77E0E8;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''af-2'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Hierdie gebruiker het 'n '''matige''' begrip van '''[[:Category:User af|Afrikaans]]'''.&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;

[[Category:User af|{{PAGENAME}}]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User af-1</title>
    <id>1779</id>
    <revision>
      <id>2939</id>
      <timestamp>2006-09-10T12:35:41Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Purodha</username>
        <id>45</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>+ Category:User af</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #C0C8FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#F0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#C0C8FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''af-1'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Gebruiker met 'n '''[[:Category:User af-1|basiese]] begrip van [[:Category:User af|Afrikaans]]'''.[[Category:User af|{{PAGENAME}}]][[Category:User af-1|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User als</title>
    <id>1780</id>
    <revision>
      <id>2766</id>
      <timestamp>2005-12-15T19:19:40Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Korg</username>
        <id>2</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>de -&gt; als</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #6EF7A7 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#C5FCDC&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#6EF7A7;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''als'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Däm Benutzer sy '''[[:Category:User als-M|Muettersprach]]''' isch '''[[:Category:User als|Alemmanisch]]'''.[[Category:User als-M|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User lb</title>
    <id>1781</id>
    <revision>
      <id>2768</id>
      <timestamp>2005-05-26T23:42:12Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Hans-Peter Scholz</ip>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #6EF7A7 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#C5FCDC&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#6EF7A7;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''lb'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Dësem Benotzer seng '''[[:Category:User lb-N|Mammesprooch]]''' ass '''[[:Category:User lb|Lëtzebuergesch]]'''.[[Category:User lb-N|{{PAGENAME}}]][[Category:User lb|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User lb-3</title>
    <id>1782</id>
    <revision>
      <id>2770</id>
      <timestamp>2005-05-26T23:41:10Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Hans-Peter Scholz</ip>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #99B3FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#E0E8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#99B3FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''lb-3'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Dëse Benotzer ka '''[[:Category:User lb-3|fléissend]]''' '''[[:Category:User lb|Lëtzebuergesch]]'''.[[Category:User lb|{{PAGENAME}}]][[Category:User lb-3|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User lb-2</title>
    <id>1783</id>
    <revision>
      <id>2773</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-09T16:53:24Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Adjusting color code of template for level 2 proficiency.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #77E0E8 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#D0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#77E0E8;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''lb-2'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Dëse Benotzer ka '''[[:Category:User lb-2|mat erweiderte Kenntnisser]]'''  vun der '''[[:Category:User lb|Lëtzebuerger Sprooch]]''' zum Projet bäidroen. [[Category:User lb|{{PAGENAME}}]][[Category:User lb-2|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User lb-1</title>
    <id>1784</id>
    <revision>
      <id>2776</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-09T19:43:05Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Adjusting color code of template for level 1 proficiency.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #C0C8FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#F0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#C0C8FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''lb-1'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Dëse Benotzer ka '''[[:Category:User lb-1|mat Grondkenntnisser]]'''  vun der '''[[:Category:User lb|Lëtzebuerger Sprooch]]''' zum Projet bäidroen. [[Category:User lb|{{PAGENAME}}]][[Category:User lb-1|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User li</title>
    <id>1785</id>
    <revision>
      <id>2781</id>
      <timestamp>2005-05-19T22:29:39Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Cicero</ip>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #6EF7A7 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#C5FCDC&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#6EF7A7;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''li'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Deze gebroeker haet '''[[:Category:User li|Limburgs]]''' es '''mojertaal'''.[[Category:User li|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User li-3</title>
    <id>1786</id>
    <revision>
      <id>2785</id>
      <timestamp>2005-10-16T14:27:26Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Steinbach</ip>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #99B3FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#E0E8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#99B3FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''li-3'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Deze gebroeker kalt '''[[:Category:User li-3|hoegwierdig]]''' '''[[:Category:User li|Limburgs]]'''.
[[Category:User li-3|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User li-2</title>
    <id>1787</id>
    <revision>
      <id>2792</id>
      <timestamp>2006-05-09T16:54:19Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Adjusting color code of template for level 2 proficiency.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #77E0E8 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#D0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#77E0E8;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''li-2'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Deze gebroeker haet 'n '''[[:Category:User li-2|matige kinnis]]''' van 't '''[[:Category:User li|Limburgs]]'''.
[[Category:User li-2|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Template:User li-1</title>
    <id>1788</id>
    <revision>
      <id>2940</id>
      <timestamp>2006-09-10T12:37:17Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Purodha</username>
        <id>45</id>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <comment>+ Category:User li</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #C0C8FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;width:238px;background:#F0F8FF&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;width:45px;height:45px;background:#C0C8FF;text-align:center;font-size:14pt&quot;&gt;'''li-1'''&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Deze gebroeker haet 'n '''[[:Category:User li-1|baziskinnis]]'''  van 't '''[[:Category:User li|Limburgs]]'''.
[[Category:User li|{{PAGENAME}}]]
[[Category:User li-1|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>User:Ninomy</title>
    <id>1789</id>
    <revision>
      <id>2803</id>
      <timestamp>2006-09-07T14:04:48Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Ninomy</username>
        <id>53</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;p style=&quot;border:#AAA solid 1px;padding:0.3em;line-height:1.0&quot;&gt;
[http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ninomy ja.wp]
[http://ja.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:Ninomy ja.wb]
[http://ja.wiktionary.org/wiki/User:Ninomy ja.wikt]
[http://ja.wikiquote.org/wiki/User:Ninomy ja.wq]
[http://ja.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Ninomy ja.wn]
[http://ja.wikisource.org/wiki/User:Ninomy ja.ws]
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ninomy en.wp]
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[[m:User:Ninomy|meta]]
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[http://wiktionaryz.org/User:Ninomy wiktZ]
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I am a Japanese Wikibookian. I am active on [http://ja.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:Ninomy ja.wb] and [http://ja.wiktionary.org/wiki/User:Ninomy ja.wikt](sysop).

If you want to see my detailed self-introduction, please see my User pages on [[meta:User:Ninomy|meta]](in English) or [http://ja.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:Ninomy ja.wb].

If you contact me immediately, please use my talk page on [http://ja.wikibooks.org/wiki/User talk:Ninomy ja.wb].</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Wikiversity:Communication}}

{{Browse
|en=communication means used by Wikiversity participants
|fr=les moyens de communication des participants aux projets Wikiversity
|no=kommunkasjonsmetoder brukt av Wikiversity-deltakere
|ksh=de Aate un Wääje fö_de Medmaacher bëj_de Wikkiversitäte sejj_ungerëijn ußzetuusche
&lt;!--
|pt=canais de [[wikipedia:pt:IRC|IRC]] dedicados à Wikiversidade --&gt;
|zh=維基學者的通信方法
}}

[[Category:Wikiversity:Communication]]</text>
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      <contributor>
        <username>Purodha</username>
        <id>45</id>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Help:How to start a new discussion}}

== Alljemëjn ==

Wänn_De_en nöüj Dißkeßjohn aanfange wellß, do:
* Liß en [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/Ksh]] noh, wi esu jëdd_en fille Shprooche jemaad_weed_op Wikiversität Beta
* Lääj_en miehshproochijje Koodenazjonß_Sigg_aan, met  {{tl|Coordination page}}; &lt;small&gt;för_e&amp;nbsp;Bëijshpill: [[Wikiversity:Scope of research]].&lt;/small&gt;
* Lääsh fö_Ding Shprooch en Sigk met koote Zosammefaßßonge aan, met  {{tl|Summary page}}; &lt;small&gt;fö_onß&amp;nbsp;Bëijshpill: [[Wikiversity:Scope of research/Ksh]].&lt;/small&gt;
* Fang aan op de Klaaf_Sigk en Dinge Shprooch, met  {{tl|Discussion page}}; &lt;small&gt;fö_dat&amp;nbsp;Bëijshpill: [[Wikiversity talk:Scope of research/Ksh]].&lt;/small&gt;
* Donn Ding nöüj Dißkeßjohn bikannt maache op [[Wikiversity:Announcements/En]] un_op [[Wikiversity:Babel]], med  {{tl|Announce/talk}}.
* Dämgk draan, dat_E emmer widdo koote Zosammefaßßonge schriifß, domet de Lück en anndo Shprooche weßße künne, wad affjëijd, un donn de Koodenazjonß_Sigk lesse, domet_E sëllever süühß, wat de Anndere schriive.

== Schabloone ==

* {{tl|Coordination page}} - ''fö_de miehshproochijje Koodenazjonß_Sigg''
* {{tl|Summary page}} - ''för op_di Sigk met koote Zosammefaßßonge''
* {{tl|Discussion page}} - ''för op de Klaaf_Sigk''
* {{tl|Announce/talk}} - ''en_nöüj Dißkeßjohn bikannt maache''


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      <text xml:space="preserve">''Hee en dä Saachjropp senn Schabloone in de Kölsche Shprooch.''

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&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Daer Benutzer do schwetzt '''[[:Category:User pfl|Pälzisch]]''' uff'm  '''[[:Category:User pfl-1|unnerschde]]''' Niveau.
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      <comment>/* La recherche originale en général et dans le cadre des projets de la fondation Wikimedia */</comment>
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'''la recherche originale '''(souvent appelée &quot;recherche primaire&quot;) peut être associée avec la [[Wikiversity:Secondary research|recherche secondaire]]. Toute recherche commence par l'évaluation de la connaissance existante. La recherche secondaire peut souvent créer une progression vers de nouvelles connaissances. Wikipedia permet des formes de recherche secondaire qui ne produisent pas de nouvelles connaissances.

==La recherche originale en général et dans le cadre des projets de la fondation Wikimedia==

La recherche originale joue un rôle important dans l'éducation. L'éducation ne traite pas seulement de la connaissance existante. Une des fonctions les plus importantes des établissements d'enseignement est la transmission de génération en génération de la ''culture'' de la recherche et des méthodes pour la poursuite vers de nouvelles connaissances. Une des meilleures manières pour que les étudiants apprennent, est de devenir impliqué dans des projets de recherche. Étant donné sa mission orientée vers l'éducation, il est naturel que Wikiversity s'intéresse à tous les types de recherche.

Le terme &quot;recherche originale&quot; a une signification spéciale dans les projets de la fondation Wikimedia. Dans ces projets, &quot;recherche originale&quot; signifie se référer à du matériel placé dans les articles par des wikipédiens qui n'a pas été précédemment publié par une source fiable. Cela inclut le matériel non publié, par exemple, arguments, concepts, données, idées, rapports, ou théories, ou n'importe quelle nouvelle analyse ou synthèse de matériel publié qui semble donner une opinion - ou, dans les mots du co-fondateur de Wikipedia Jimbo Wales, que arriverait à un &quot;récit de roman ou à une interprétation historique&quot; ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research source]).

Étant donné : &lt;BR&gt;1) la position dans le passé de la fondation Wikimedia en ce qui concerne la recherche originale
([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wp:nor No Original Research])&lt;BR&gt;et&lt;BR&gt;2) le rôle fondamental de la recherche dans l'éducation&lt;BR&gt; Wikiversity doit établir un nouvel ensemble de lignes de conduite et directives sur la façon d'incorporer des activités de recherche originale dans le cadre d'un projet de la fondation Wikimedia.

La [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Approved_Wikiversity_project_proposal proposition approuvée du projet Wikiversity] incluait ce paragraphe au sujet des objectifs de la recherche sur Wikiversity :

* &quot;Wikiversity pourrait servir en tant que dépositaire de la recherche effectuée par le [[meta:Wikimedia Research Network|réseau de recherche de Wikimedia]] ou d'autre gens impliqués dans des [[meta:research|recherches]] basées sur le principe du wiki, et pourrait également accueillir les actes de [[meta:Wikimania|Wikimania]]. Que Wikiversity accueille ou non dans le futur la recherche originale en plus de la recherche secondaire est un sujet de la discussion (voir [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity_talk:Approved_Wikiversity_project_proposal la page de discussion de la proposition du projet ]). Cependant la recherche originale pourrait exister, basée sur du matériel de la Wikiversity (e.g. du matériel en sociologie engendre un projet de recherche d'audit). Des directives pour définir ce qui serait une recherche appropriée seront développées pendant la phase bêta du projet par un processus de consensus de la communauté, et passées en revue (par  le [[meta:Special projects committee|comité des projets spéciaux]]) après une période de six mois. Il n'y aura pas ''nécessairement'' une 'approbation' de la recherche ajoutée à Wikiversity - bien qu'une certaine sorte de processus de revue doive être établie pour traiter les problèmes potentiels.&quot;

==Le but des projets de recherche de Wikiversity==

Ces deux points&lt;BR&gt;1) les projets de recherche secondaire (études bibliographiques qui produisent de nouvelles connaissances et dépassent une politique de &quot;aucune recherche originale&quot;) &lt;BR&gt;et&lt;BR&gt;2) d'autres projets de recherche originale employant des méthodes de recherche en plus de l'étude bibliographique&lt;BR&gt; peuvent produire tous les deux des connaissances nouvelles et non publiées précédemment mais aussi, des arguments, des concepts, des données, des idées, des rapports, ou des théories. Si Wikiversity permettra de tels projets de recherche, Wikiversity doit inventer et mettre au point un nouveau système qui &quot;traitera des problèmes potentiels&quot; résultant de la recherche originale.

===Revue formelle des pairs===

Les projets de la fondation Wikimedia se basent traditionnellement sur la citation des sources vérifiables et fiables comme critères principaux pour l'inclusion d'information dans les pages Web d'un projet. Cette méthode traditionnelle de décider de la convenance du contenu n'est pas applicable à la recherche originale. la [[w:Peer review|revue formelle des pairs]] est un processus de soumission d'un nouveau travail ou d'idées nouvelles à l'examen minutieux d'autres personnes qui sont des experts dans le domaine. Wikiversity peut être capable de concevoir un système de revue par les pairs qui puisse fonctionner afin de s'assurer que la recherche originale dans Wikiversity réponde à des normes élevées.

==voir aussi==
*[[Wikiversity:Research]] - Documents concernant la recherche dans le cadre de Wikiversity.
*[[Wikiversity:Secondary research/En|Secondary research]] - Recherche dans un domaine au travers de l'étude bibliographique.
*[[Wikiversity:Scope of research/En|Scope of research]] - Wikiversity devrait-elle permettre tous les types de recherche, y compris la recherche originale ?
*[[Wikiversity:Research guidelines/En|Research guidelines]] - Quelles régles sont nécessaires afin de s'assurer que seules les activitées de recherche de haute qualité aient lieu ?

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De '''„Wikkiversität“''' ess_en Projäk fun_de jemëjnnözzijje Shtėfftung '''„[[:wikimedia:|Wikimedia Foundation]]“''', di orr_en Aanzal anndo Projäkkte ongershtöz fö [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Copyrights|frëij un offe Weßße]] en [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Multilingual coordination|fille Shprooche]]

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        <username>Gil mnogueira</username>
        <id>61</id>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">You can view my user page at [http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usu%C3%A1rio:Gil_mnogueira pt.wikipedia.org].</text>
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      <contributor>
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      <comment>/* Canaux de discussion */  #wikiversity-de</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Wikiversity:Communication}}

Vous pouvez déposer vos messages sur [[Wikiversity:Babel]], ou utiliser les moyens suivants.

== Canaux IRC ==

''Une liste complète des canaux IRC reliés à la Fondation Wikimedia est disponible en anglais sur Meta : [[m:IRC channels]].''

=== Canaux de discussion ===

Ces canaux, hébergés sur [[wikipedia:fr:Freenode|Freenode]], permettent de discuter avec les participants.

* [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikiversity #wikiversity] - ''à propos de Wikiversity en général''
* [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikiversity-en #wikiversity-en] - ''à propos de Wikiversity anglophone''
* [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikiversity-de #wikiversity-de] - ''à propos de Wikiversity germanophone''

=== Canaux des modifications récentes ===

Ces canaux, hébergés sur les serveurs de la Fondation Wikimedia, permettent de suivre en direct les modifications effectuées.

* [irc://irc.wikimedia.org/beta.wikiversity #beta.wikiversity] - ''modifications sur Wikiversity Beta''
* [irc://irc.wikimedia.org/en.wikiversity #en.wikiversity] - ''modifications sur le [[:en:|projet anglophone]]''
* [irc://irc.wikimedia.org/de.wikiversity #de.wikiversity] - ''modifications sur le [[:de:|projet germanophone]]''

== Listes de discussion ==

''Une liste complète des listes de discussion reliées à la Fondation Wikimedia est disponible en anglais sur Meta : [[m:Mailing list]].''

* [http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l wikiversity-l] - ''à propos de Wikiversity en général''
* [http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversityde-l wikiversityde-l] - ''à propos de [[:de:|Wikiversity germanophone]]''
* [http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l translators-l] - ''liste des traducteurs Wikimedia''

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      <text xml:space="preserve">{{multilingual}}

{{ls|en|This category is about communication between Wikiversity participants and about Wikiversity projects.}}
{{ls|fr|Cette catégorie concerne la communication entre participants de Wikiversity et à propos des projets Wikiversity.}}
{{ls|zh|此為關於維基學者之間溝通與各維基學院計劃之類.}}

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{{multilingual}}
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{{ls|be|Калі гэта толькі магчыма, калі ласка, пакідайце свае каментарыі непасрэдна на старонцы &amp;#171;Talk&amp;#187; адпаведнага артыкулу Вікі, а на дадзенай старонцы пакідайце толькі спасылку туды.}}
{{ls|br|E kement ha ma c'hallit en ober, laoskit ho kemennadennoù war bajenn gaozeal ar pennad zo e kaoz, ha na skrivit amañ nemet ur gerig displegañ gant ul liamm.}}
{{ls|cs|Pokud je to možné, zanechte detailní zprávu na diskuzní stránce příslušnéhoho článku a sem dejte jen jednoduché vysvětlení s odkazem.}}
{{ls|da|Prøv så vidt muligt at skrive dine beskeder på de relevante artiklers diskussionssider og blot sætte et link til den her.}}
{{ls|de|Sofern möglich, hinterlasse Deine Nachrichten auf der Diskussionseite des betreffenden Artikels und plaziere hier lediglich einen Link dorthin.}}
{{ls|el|Όσο αυτό είναι δυνατόν, παρακαλούμε αφήστε τα μηνύματά σας στη Σελίδα Συζήτησης του σχετικού άρθρου με πλήρεις λεπτομέρειες και απλώς αφήστε εδώ έναν σύνδεσμο.}}
{{ls|en|As far as possible, please leave your messages on the Talk page of a relevant article with full details, and leave just a single line here with a link to it.}}
{{ls|eo|Laŭeble metu vian plenan mesaĝon en la diskuton de la koncerna artikolo kaj jen nur unu linion kun ligo tien!}}
{{ls|es|En tanto sea posible, coloca tu mensaje en la página de discusión del artículo concerniente, y deja aquí solamente una línea con un enlace hacia el mismo.}}
{{ls|fr|Dans la mesure du possible, veuillez laisser vos messages dans la page discussion de l'article concerné et n'insérer ici qu'un lien vers ce message.}}
{{ls|it|Nei limiti del possibile, lasciate i vostri messaggi nella pagina di discussione dell'articolo e inserite in questa pagina solo il link alla discussione.}}
{{ls|ja|くわしい話はなるべく関連するページのノートに書いておき、ここにはそこへのリンクを添えた1行程度のメッセージだけを残すようにお願いします。}}
{{ls|no|Så langt det lar seg gjørem, skriv din beskjed på den relevante diskusjonssiden, og skriv kun ei linje som referer dit herfra.}}
{{ls|ksh|Wann möschlėsh, donn_Dinge Bëijdraach op dė Klaaf_Sigk fun_däm_Atikkel wo_t_dröm_jëijd, un pak_hee enne Lėngk_drop henn.}}
{{ls|nl|Laat je gedetailleerde berichten zo veel mogelijk achter op de discussie pagina van het betreffende artikel en hier een enkele regel met een verwijzing daar naar toe.}}
{{ls|oc|Dins la mesura del possible, daissar vòstres messatges dins la pagina discutida de l'article concernat e inserir aquí pas qu'un ligam vèrs aqueste messatge.}}
{{ls|pt|Preferencialmente, deixe suas mensagens na página de discussão do artigo correspondente com os detalhes completos, deixando aqui apenas uma simples linha com link para a mesma.}}
{{ls|ru|По возможности, оставляйте ваши комментарии непосредственно на странице обсуждения соответствующей статьи Вики, а на данной странице помещайте только ссылку туда.}}
{{ls|sl|Kolikor je le mogoče, pustite svoja sporočila z vsemi podrobnostmi na pogovorni strani ustreznega članka, tu pa naj ostane le vrstica s povezavo nanjo.}}
{{ls|sr|Уколико је то могуће, коментаре остављајте на одговарајућим страницама за разговор дотичних чланака, а овдје на страници за разговор можете ставити само везу ка Вашем коментару.}}
{{ls|th|การอภิปรายเกี่ยวกับหัวข้อเรื่องใดๆ กรุณาเขียนไว้ที่ หน้าพูดคุย ของเรื่องนั้นๆ และทำลิ้งก์จากหน้านี้ไปสู่หัวข้อเรื่องนั้น โดยเขียนไม่ควรเกินหนึ่งบรรทัด.}}
{{ls|zh|请尽量在讨论页发表你的详细意见，只在本页用一行写下你的意见摘要，然后做个链接连到即可。/請儘量在討論頁發表你的詳細意見，只在本頁用一行寫下你的意見摘要，然後做個鏈結連到即可。}}
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{{Frame|Wikiversity:Announcements/En}}__NOTOC__

==[[Help:FAQ/En|¿Qué es Wikiversity Beta?]]==

Este proyecto es una plataforma global pensada para coordinar las diversas wikiversidades en diversos idiomas. Esta '''[[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/En|coordinación plurilingüe]]''' debería tratar la [[Wikiversity:Mission|misión]] y las [[#Guidelines|pautas]] generales del ámbito de la wikiversidad.

Wikiversity beta también es una incubadora para wikiversidades en diversas lenguas.

==¿Dónde se encuentra la Wikiversidad en español?==
La versión en español, de momento, sigue residiendo en [http://es.wikibooks.org/Wikiversidad:Portada wikilibros].  Hasta que cuente con un dominio propio es muy probable que permanezca allí debido a la gran cantidad de páginas que contiene.


'''Si quieres crear una nueva Wikiversidad''', debes contar con 10 participantes activos deseosos de trabajar en la lengua de ese proyecto. Cuando tengas ese número, puedes [[m:Requests for new languages#Requests for Wikiversity Languages|solicitar]] (en meta) el nuevo dominio. Mientras tanto, por favor, incluye la portada de tu proyecto en [[Template:Main page]].

También puedes mirar las [[Help:FAQ/En|preguntas frecuentes]].

==Pautas==
''Por favor, ayuda a desarrollar (y traducir) nuestras pautas internacionales que se aplicarán a todos los proyectos.''
*[[Wikiversity:Scope of research/En|Alcance y tipo de investigación]] - ¿Debería la wikiversidad permitir todo tipo de investigación, incluso investigación como fuente primaria?
*[[Wikiversity:Research guidelines/En|Pautas de investigación]] - ¿qué normas hacen falta para asegurar que sólo se realizan investigaciones académicas de alta calidad?

==En desarrollo==
*Desarrolla nuestro portal multilingüe (http://www.wikiversity.org) en [[m:Talk:Www.wikiversity.org template|Meta]]
*Únete al actual [[m:Wikiversity/logo|concurso de logotipos]].

==[[Wikiversity:Separate projects|Proyectos separados]]==
[http://de.wikiversity.org/wiki/Hauptseite Deutsch]
[http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Main_Page English]

* [[Wikiversity:Reports/Es|Noticias de los diversos proyectos]]

==Proyectos hermanos==

{{Sisterprojects/Es}}
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''Si deseas leer más en profundidad sobre esta opción, visita [[m:Meta:Language select|Meta:Language select]].''


'''[[m:Meta:Language select|La selección de idioma]]''' permite a los usuarioos esconder las lenguas extranjeras en páginas multilingües. Esto, por ejemplo, permite a los lectores francófonos ver sólo el texto escrito en francés en páginas plurilingües (aun cuando todavía verían sólo español en una página escrita en español exclusivamente).

== Cómo escoger un idioma ==

* Para seleccionar el idioma, introduce su[[List of ISO 639-1 codes|código ISO 639-1]] en la casilla de entrada (&lt;code&gt;es&lt;/code&gt; para español), y pulsa &lt;big&gt;➤&lt;/big&gt;.
* Si quieres ver todas las lenguas, escribe &lt;code&gt;mul&lt;/code&gt; o pulsa &lt;big&gt;⋙&lt;/big&gt;.

== Uso ==
&lt;!--
=== Identificación de páginas multilingües ===
Las páginas que implementen selección de idioma incluyen un anuncio usando {{tl|multilingual}}.
--&gt;
=== JavaScript ===
El método JavaScript se activa por defecto en Wikiversity Beta. Puedes desactivarlo incluyendo la siguiente línea a [[Special:Mypage/monobook.js|tu código]]. &lt;pre&gt;ls_enable = false;&lt;/pre&gt;

Puedes ver un ejemplo del JavaScript en acción más abajo. Si la selección de idioma se deshabilita, todos los textos se despliegan.

&lt;div class=&quot;multilingual&quot;&gt;
{{ls|de|Dieser Text ist Deutsch.}}
{{ls|en|This text is English.}}
{{ls|es|Este texto está en español.}}
{{ls|fr|Ce texte est Français.}}
{{ls|pt|Este texto está em Português.}}
{{ls|sc|Custu testu est in Sardu.}}
{{ls|la|Haec nota Latine scriptus est.}}
{{ls|zh|中文.}}
&lt;/div&gt;

Puedes ver el código JavaScript en [{{fullurl:MediaWiki:Monobook.js|action=render}} MediaWiki:Monobook.js].

== Delimitando idiomas ==

La plantilla {{[[Template:ls|ls]]}} simplifica la implementación de la selección de idioma

&lt;pre&gt;{{ls|es|Este texto está escrito en español.}}
&lt;/pre&gt;


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      <comment>/* Conseils du comité du 14 aout 2006 */ corr trad</comment>
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Le developpement des directives, des lignes de conduite et de la communauté associées à la recherche sur Wikiversity peut être aidé par l'étude des documents fondateurs du projet Wikiversity.

==Les documents fondateurs==
Il y avait deux propositions de projet pour Wikiversity. La [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiversity#Mission| proposition du projet originale] a été rejetée par le Comité Directeur de la Fondation Wikimedia. La [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Approved_Wikiversity_project_proposal seconde proposition] a été approuvée.

===De la première proposition du projet===
* '''Mission ''': le but du projet Wikiversity, qui résidera à terme sur www.wikiversity.org, est d'établir une institution électronique d'apprentissage qui sera employée pour examiner les limites du modèle wiki que ce soit pour développer des ressources d'apprentissage électroniques ou bien enseigner, poursuivre des recherches ou publier des résultats (dans un cadre de lignes de conduite développées par la communauté).

===De la proposition du projet approuvée===
* '''[[Wikiversity:Mission|Mission]]''':... &quot;des directives seront développées pendant la phase bêta du développement de Wikiversity sur l'hébergement et la stimulation de la recherche, basés &lt;sup&gt;[[#Notes de traduction|a]]&lt;/sup&gt; en partie sur les ressources existantes dans Wikiversity et tout autre projet Wikimedia&quot;...

*'''[[Wikiversity:Secondary research|Recherche secondaire]]''': 
**&quot;Ces groupes/communautés seront des services d'aide, des équipes de tutelle, des groupes de personne, des salons de discussion - les applications pratiques pourraient être entreprendre des recherches pour Wikipedia&quot; ...
** ... &quot;Wikiversity complétera naturellement les projets existants de Wikimedia en fournissant un environnement qui soutient et stimule 'la recherche secondaire '.&quot;

*'''[[Wikiversity:Original research|Recherche original]]''': &quot;Wikiversity pourrait servir en tant que dépositaire de la recherche effectuée par le [[meta:Wikimedia Research Network|réseau de recherche de Wikimedia]] ou d'autre gens impliqués dans des [[meta:research|recherches]] basées sur le principe du wiki, et pourrait également accueillir les actes de [[meta:Wikimania|Wikimania]]. Que Wikiversity accueille ou non dans le futur la recherche originale en plus de la recherche secondaire est un sujet de la discussion (voir [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity_talk:Approved_Wikiversity_project_proposal la page de discussion de la proposition du projet ]). Cependant la recherche originale pourrait exister, basée sur du matériel de la Wikiversity (e.g. du matériel en sociologie engendre un projet de recherche d'audit). Des directives pour définir ce qui serait une recherche appropriée seront développées pendant la phase bêta du projet par un processus de consensus de la communauté, et passées en revue (par  le [[meta:Special projects committee|comité des projets spéciaux]]) après une période de six mois. Il n'y aura pas ''nécessairement'' une 'approbation' de la recherche ajoutée à Wikiversity - bien qu'une certaine sorte de processus de revue doive être établie pour traiter les problèmes potentiels.&quot;

==Commentaires durant la Wikimania 2006==
([http://wikimania2006.wikimedia.org/wiki/Opening_Plenary_%28transcript%29#Wikiversity_.2826:35.29 source])
*&quot;..... l'idée ici est aussi d'héberger des communautés d'apprentissage, pour que les gens qui essayent réellement d'apprendre, aient un vrai endroit où venir pour interagir et s'aider les uns les autres à trouver comment apprendre les choses. Nous allons également héberger et stimuler la recherche sur la façon dont ce genre de choses peut être fait plus efficacement.&quot;

==Conseils du comité du 14 aout 2006==
([http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2006-August/009074.html source], par le menbre du comité [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Anthere Anthere])

*&quot;..... les directives devraient être developpées, *en particulier* en tenant compte de la recherche collaborative. Nous espérons que ces directives seront autant que possible developpées sur le site beta (en particulier la recherche collaborative), de sorte que toutes les langues partagent un but commun et quelques règles non négociables.&quot; [[#Notes|voir note 1]]
*&quot;A la fin de cette période [beta] de 6 mois , le projet sera passé en revue, en particulier, de sorte que la question de la recherche collaborative soit qualifiée, et si possible pour définir si la phase beta est finie. Le controle sera fait par Spc.&quot; [[#Notes|voir note 2]]

==Notes==
*[1] - &quot;site beta&quot; veut dire [[Main Page|Beta Wikiversity]]&lt;BR&gt;
*[2] - &quot;Spc&quot; est le [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special_projects_committee Comité des Projets Spéciaux].

==Voir aussi==
*[[Wikiversity:Secondary research/En|Recherche secondaire]] - Recherche dans un domaine au travers de l'étude bibliographique.
*[[Wikiversity:Original research/Fr|Recherche originale]] - Recherche non publiée sur un sujet utilisant l'étude bibliographique et/ou des méthodes additionnelles.
*[[Wikiversity:Scope of research/Fr|But de la recherche]] - Wikiversity devrait-elle permettre tous les types de recherche, y compris la recherche originale ?
*[[Wikiversity:Research guidelines/En|Directives sur la recherche]] - Quelles régles sont nécessaires afin de s'assurer que seules les activitées de recherche de haute qualité aient lieu ?

==Notes de traduction==
*[a] - attention contresens potentiel durant la traduction en -&gt; fr


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La Wikiversidad es un proyecto de la [[wikimedia:Home|Fundación Wikimedia]], una organización sin ánimo de lucro que también hospeda otros proyectos [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Multilingual coordination|multilingües]] y de [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Copyrights|contenido libre]]:

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| '''[http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Wikipedia]'''&lt;br /&gt;La enciclopedia libre
| align=&quot;center&quot; | {{Click || image=Wiktionary-logo-en.png | link=wiktionary: | width=51px | height=35px }}
| '''[http://es.wiktionary.org/wiki/ Wikcionario]'''&lt;br /&gt;Tesauro y diccionario
| align=&quot;center&quot; | {{Click || image=Wikiquote-logo.png | link=wikiquote: | width=40px | height=41px }}
| '''[http://es.wikiquote.org/wiki/ Wikiquote]'''&lt;br /&gt;Colección de citas
|-
| align=&quot;center&quot; | {{Click || image=Wikinews-logo.png | link=wikinews: | width=51px | height=30px }}
| '''[http://es.wikinews.org/wiki/ Wikinoticias]'''&lt;br /&gt;Noticias de contenido libre
| align=&quot;center&quot; | {{Click || image=Wikispecies-logo.png | link=wikispecies: | width=35px | height=41px }}
| '''[[wikispecies:|Wikispecies]]'''&lt;br /&gt;Directorio taxonómico
| align=&quot;center&quot; | {{Click || image=Wikibooks-logo.png  | link=wikibooks: | width=35px | height=35px }}
| '''[http://es.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Wikibooks]'''&lt;br /&gt;Libros de texto y manuales libres
|-
| align=&quot;center&quot; | {{Click || image=Wikisource-logo.png | link=wikisource: | width=35px | height=37px }}
| '''[http://es.wikisource.org/wiki/ Wikisource]'''&lt;br /&gt;Biblioteca libre
| align=&quot;center&quot; | {{Click || image=Commons-logo.png | link=commons: | width=31px | height=41px }}
| '''[http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Portada Commons]'''&lt;br /&gt;Archivo multimedia
| align=&quot;center&quot; | {{Click || image=Wikimedia-logo.png | link=meta: | width=35px | height=36px }}
| '''[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Es/Portada Meta-Wiki]'''&lt;br /&gt;Coordinación de Wikimedia
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      <comment>/* Tschätt_Röüm fö_ze Dißketėere */ #wikiversity-de</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Wikiversity:Communication}}

Donn Ding Nohrishte op [[Wikiversity:Babel]], ou utiliser les moyens suivants.

== Tschätt_Röüm em IRC ==

''En komplätte Lėßß met de [[:w:ksh:IRC|IRC]] [[:w:ksh:Tschätt_Roum|Tschätt_Röüm]] fun_de [[:w:ksh:Wikkimedija Shtifftong|Wikkimedija Shtifftůng]] künnd_Er op [[m:IRC channels|Metta]] finge.''

=== Tschätt_Röüm fö_ze Dißketėere ===

He_di Tschätt_Röüm op [[:w:ksh:Freenode|Freenode]] sen fö_d Klaafe onger de Medmaacher jedaach.

* [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikiversity #wikiversity] - ''övver de Wikkivësitäte em alljemëijne''
* [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikiversity-en #wikiversity-en] - ''övver dė [[:en:|Wikkivësitäd_ob_änglėsh]]''
* [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikiversity-de #wikiversity-de] - ''övver dė [[:de:|Wikkivësitäd_ob döütsch]]''

=== Tschätt_Röüm fö de nöüßte Ännderonge ===

He_di Tschätt_Röüm op_de Wikkimedija Shtifftůng ier ßöövere maachen_et mööshlesh, de nöüßte Ännderonge aan Sigge tiräk met_ze_luuere.

* [irc://irc.wikimedia.org/beta.wikiversity #beta.wikiversity] - ''Ännderonge op_de [[:beta:|Wikkivësität Bëtta]]''
* [irc://irc.wikimedia.org/de.wikiversity #de.wikiversity] - ''Ännderonge om [[:de:|Projëgg_op döütsch]]''
* [irc://irc.wikimedia.org/en.wikiversity #en.wikiversity] - ''Ännderonge om [[:en:|Projëgg_ob_änglėsh]]''

== Klaaf_Lėßte övver e-mail (mailing_Lėßßte) ==

En komplätte Lėßß met de [[:w:ksh:mailing_Lėßß|mailing_Lėßßte]] fun_de [[:w:ksh:Wikkimedija Shtifftong|Wikkimedija Shtifftůng]] ess_en änglėsh op [[m:Mailing list|Metta]].''

* [http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l wikiversity-l] - ''övver de Wikkivësitäte em alljemëijne''
* [http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversityde-l wikiversityde-l] - ''övver de [[:de:|döütsche Wikkivësität]]''
* [http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l translators-l] - ''fö_de Övversäzzere en de Wikkiß_fun Wikkimedija''

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      <comment>Protected &quot;[[User:Jimbo Wales]]&quot; [edit=sysop:move=sysop]</comment>
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      <comment>Research + Scope of research en FR</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">== Research/fr ==
Salut André,
Est tu sur IRC de tps en tps ?
J'ai vu que tu t'investissait bcp dans la présentation en français des débats actuelles sur les recherches admisibles dans WV. J'aimerais beaucoup échanger à ce sujet et voir comment on peut rendre accessible au plus grand nombre un débat que je trouve un peu fumeux.

Merci. [[User:Sainte-Rose|Sainte-Rose]] 17:22, 9 September 2006 (UTC)</text>
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    <title>User talk:WiseWoman</title>
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      <timestamp>2006-09-09T21:21:45Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>JWSchmidt</username>
        <id>3</id>
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      <comment>welcome</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">Welcome to beta.wikiversity.org! --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 21:21, 9 September 2006 (UTC)</text>
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    <title>User talk:Purodha</title>
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    <title>User talk:Sainte-Rose</title>
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      <contributor>
        <username>Hillgentleman</username>
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      <comment>/* Logo */</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">Bonjour Sainte-Rose,

Cela fait une eternité que je ne suis pas allé sur IRC. Le coté chat IRC du canal wikipedia-fr me rebute un peu je dois dire. Je vais essayer de me connecter sur le chan wikiversity de temps en temps. Etant de profession chercheur, mon interet pour ce projet est multiple mais le moteur est unique : la curiosité. Je suis interesse principalement par trois aspects : le discours multilingue est-il viable sur une plateforme non figée comme un wiki ? la plateforme wikiversity+wikipedia peut elle etre productrice de recherche ? et le point plus important : comment rendre dans ces conditions la recherche produite fiable et pérenne, i.e. qui puisse etre qualifiée et référençée ? [[User:Andre315|andre]] 08:57, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

==Logo==
Bonjour!  This is the nomination stage for the wikiversity logo colour.  Please only vote against those which you really dislike.  You may vote now for, or remain neutral to some of those which you can tolerate, and vote against them in the later stages.--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]-[[User talk:hillgentleman|User talk]] 09:42, 20 November 2006 (UTC)</text>
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* '''[[Help:FAQ/Ksh]]'''
* '''[[Wikiversity:Communication/Ksh]]'''
* '''[[Wikiversity:Babel]]'''
* '''[[Help:How to start a new discussion/Ksh]]'''

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      <comment>/* Discussion channels */ typo, alphabet</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Wikiversity:Communication}}

You can leave a message at ''[[Wikiversity:Babel]]'' or use the following communication means.

== IRC channels ==

''The entire list of Wikimedia Foundation IRC channels is available on Meta: [[m:IRC channels]].''

=== Discussion channels ===

These channels are hosted on [[wikipedia:en:Freenode|Freenode]] and allow you to talk with Wikiversity participants.

* [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikiversity #wikiversity] - ''about Wikiversity projects''
* [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikiversity-en #wikiversity-en] - ''about English-language Wikiversity''
* [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikiversity-de #wikiversity-de] - ''about German-language Wikiversity''

=== Recent changes channels ===

These channels are hosted on the Wikimedia Foundation servers and allow you to watch realtime recent changes.

* [irc://irc.wikimedia.org/beta.wikiversity #beta.wikiversity] - ''Wikiversity Beta recent changes''
* [irc://irc.wikimedia.org/en.wikiversity #en.wikiversity] - ''[[:en:|English-language]] Wikiversity recent changes''
* [irc://irc.wikimedia.org/de.wikiversity #de.wikiversity] - ''[[:de:|German-language]] Wikiversity recent changes''

== Mailing lists ==

''The entire list of Wikimedia Foundation mailing lists is available on Meta: [[m:Mailing list]].''

* [http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l wikiversity-l] - ''about Wikiversity projects''
* [http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversityde-l wikiversityde-l] - ''about German-language Wikiversity''
* [http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l translators-l] - ''Wikimedia translators' mailing list''

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'''''Wikiversity est un centre libre pour la création et l'usage de matériaux pédagogiques et d'activités permettant l'apprentissage.''''' Ses priorités et buts sont les suivants :

*Créer et héberger un ensemble libre, multilingue de ressources et matériaux d'enseignement, pour tous les groupes d'âge, dans toutes les langues.


Pour réaliser sa mission, d'autres tâches et buts peuvent être initiés et développés par ses participants pour développer l'enseignement et la création des nouveaux contenus. En particulier, des guides seront définis pendant la phase de développement initiale (beta) de la Wikiversité pour héberger et favoriser une ''recherche'' basée en partie sur les ressources contenues dans Wikiversité et d'autres projets Wikimedia.

==Source==
*[http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Approved_Wikiversity_project_proposal Approved Wikiversity project proposal] (in english)

==See also==
*[[Wikiversity:Research]]

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'''La recherche secondaire ''' concerne l'évaluation de la connaissance existante. La recherche secondaire peut souvent mener à de nouvelles manières de regarder les choses et progresser vers la création de nouvelles connaissances. Nous risquons de perdre du temps &quot;à recréer la roue&quot; si nous nous engageons dans la [[Wikiversity:Original research/Fr|recherche originale]] sans être au courant des résultats de la recherche publiée. Dans le cadre de Wikiversity, une manière commune d'apprentissage d'un sujet d'intérêt donné est de participer au projet qui passe en revue la littérature existante et résume les résultats de cette revue en pages wiki.

La frontière entre '''recherche secondaire ''' et '''recherche originale ''' n'est pas très bien définie. Quand les participants à Wikiversity font des recherches bibliographiques et les écrivent en pages Web qui documentent les résultats de leurs efforts, ils produisent de nouvelles '''sources secondaires'''. Les [[wikipedia:fr:source secondaire|sources secondaires]] présentent des analyses, des synthèses, des interprétations, ou évaluations d'informations ou de données d'autres sources. La recherche secondaire peut produire de nouvelles connaissances qui n'ont pas été explicitement publiées dans la littérature qui a été étudiée. Cependant, les nouvelles connaissances produites par la recherche secondaire et les nouvelles connaissances produites par la recherche originale sont distinctes selon les méthodes employées. Wikiversity devrait-elle permettre toutes les méthodes de recherche ou juste certaines ?

==Voir aussi==
*[[Wikiversity:Research/Fr|Recherche]] - Documents concernant la recherche dans le cadre de Wikiversity.
*[[Wikiversity:Original research/Fr|Recherche originale]] - Recherche non publiée sur un sujet utilisant l'étude bibliographique et/ou des méthodes additionnelles.
*[[Wikiversity:Scope of research/Fr|But de la recherche]] - Wikiversity devrait-elle permettre tous les types de recherche, y compris la recherche originale ?
*[[Wikiversity:Research guidelines/En|Research guidelines]] - Quelles régles sont nécessaires afin de s'assurer que seules les activitées de recherche de haute qualité aient lieu ?

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      <text xml:space="preserve">==interpretation and analysis==
Reading (and translating...) this text, I feel that there is a bit of confusion on the role of secondary research.
First of all, this confusion may come from my ignorance of the &quot;secondary research&quot; concept or a lack of precision in the definition of what is an interpretation or an analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
In my field, we speak about &quot;bibliographical research&quot;. This phase is the basis of all the researches. It is also used often for learning purpose at 4th or 5th year study level in university (e.g. maitrise in France, laurea in Italy and MSc in US). The most innovating product coming from this activity is perhaps an original categorisation or an original comparison (in the sense of juxtaposition). However, interpretation and analysis are definitively &quot;original research&quot;. They are let say NPOV. [[User:Andre315|andre]] 13:49, 12 September 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <contributor>
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      <comment>wiki journals</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">Welcome to Wikiversity Beta. When I get a chance I plan to start a wiki journal at the English language Wikiversity website. I'm thinking of starting with [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Portal:Wiki_Scholar something that would be very introspective] for Wikiversity participants. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 23:13, 12 September 2006 (UTC)</text>
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;Что такое Унивикитет&lt;!--What is Wikiversity--&gt;?
:Уни'''вики'''тет (''Wikiversity'') — новый проект Фонда Викимедиа&lt;!--is a new Wikimedia project--&gt;&lt;ref&gt;Резолюция Совета:&lt;!--Board resolution:--&gt; [[wikimedia:Resolution Wikiversity]]&lt;/ref&gt;, направленный на изучение возможностей технологии Wiki в поддержке интернет-обучения&lt;!--exploring ways to use the power of wiki to support online learning--&gt;. Проект будет находиться в фазе бета-тестирования в течение первых шести месяцев работы&lt;!--This new project will be in beta phase during the first six months--&gt;&lt;ref&gt;Письмо ''Anthere'' о ''Wikiversity'': http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2006-August/009074.html&lt;/ref&gt;.


;Что значит Wikiversity Beta?&lt;!--What is Wikiversity Beta?--&gt;
:Wikiversity Beta — глобальная платформа, предназначенная для координации проектов унивикитетов на нескольких языках. Такая многоязычная координация должна способствовать выполнению миссии Унивикитета и формированию общих указаний для позиционирования проекта (например, об отношении к оригинальным исследованиям). Wikiversity Beta также является стартовой площадкой для развития унивикитетов, для которых еще не создано языковых доменов.&lt;!--Wikiversity Beta is a global platform aiming at coordinating Wikiversity projects in several languages. This multilingual coordination intends to deal with Wikiversity's mission and general guidelines of the project's scope (for example, about original research). Wikiversity Beta is also a place where Wikiversity projects which don't have a subdomain yet can develop.--&gt;
:В двух словах, Wikiversity Beta объединяет в себе meta-wiki и инкубатор для проектов Wikiversity.&lt;!--In a nutshell, Wikiversity Beta is both a meta-wiki and an incubator for Wikiversity projects--&gt;.


;Каким образом в рамках Beta могут сосуществовать столько языков, не превращая проект в кашу&lt;!--How is it possible to have so many languages coexisting on Beta without it becoming a mess--&gt;?
:Проект Wikiversity Beta рассчитывает на поддержку множества участников (не только англоязычных). Обсуждения на разных языках должны не просто сосуществовать, но и взаимодействовать по принципу симбиоза. Предложенная для реализации этой задачи [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/En|многоязычная система обсуждений]] позволит людям, не знающим английского, принимать участие в решении глобальных вопросов проекта. Более того, Beta использует возможность отбора языков ''[[Wikiversity:Language select/En|Language select]]'', разработанную в рамках Meta. С её помощью участники могут скрывать только ту часть текста страниц, которая написана на незнакомых именно им языках.&lt;!--intends to take advantage of the input of its many participants (not only English-speakers). Multilingual discussions should not only coexist, but live in symbiosis. A [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/En|multilingual discussion system]] has been proposed to manage them so non-English speakers can take part in discussions. Moreover, Beta is using the ''[[Wikiversity:Language select/En|Language select]]'' feature developped on Meta, which allows users to hide foreign languages on multilingual pages--&gt;.


;А как же те проекты Wikiversity, для которых уже созданы языковые субдомены&lt;!--What about separate Wikiversity projects which already have their own subdomain--&gt;?
:[[Wikiversity:Separate projects|Самостоятельные проекты]] развиваются своим путём. В то же время, их участникам предлагается участвовать и в дискуссиях по формированию общих рекомендаций, которые распространялись бы на все проекты Wikiversity. Более того, приветствуется размещение [[Wikiversity:Reports/En|отчетов]] о работе самостоятельных проектов, которые позволят следить за их развитием. &lt;!--Those [[Wikiversity:Separate projects|separate projects]] are growing their way. However, their participants are strongly encouraged to take part into discussions about general guidelines that will apply to all Wikiversity projects. Moreover, they are encouraged to post [[Wikiversity:Reports/En|reports]] about their projects to let everybody know about how it grows--&gt;


;Что дальше&lt;!--What's next--&gt;?
:На данном этапе необходимо привлечь аудиторию к обсуждениям на Wikiversity Beta. Участникам существующих самостоятельных проектов и людям, готовым внести свой вклад в развитие будущих языковых проектов, рекомендуется совместно работать и участвовать в обсуждениях. Не владеющим английским языком мы предлагаем также участвовать в обсуждениях, а с переводом-резюме, как мы надеемся, нам помогут добровольцы.&lt;!--Now we need people to take part in the discussions on Wikiversity Beta. People from existing separate projects and people willing to contribute to a future separate project should join the discussions and work together. People who do not speak English are encouraged to take part in discussions but we also need volunteer translators to translate the talk summaries--&gt;.


;Ваша многоязычная система никогда не заработает. Слишком много нужно переводчиков.&lt;!--Your multilingual system will never work. It requires too many translators.--&gt;
:Если действительно резюмировать дискуссии, то это не только поможет выделить ключевые аспекты проблем, но и сократит работу по переводу обсуждений. За десять дней существования Beta его главная страница уже была переведена на пять языков.&lt;!--If people really sum up their discussions, not only this will help them to focus on important things but it will not take much time to translate them. Ten days after Beta opening, its main page is already available in five languages--&gt;. 
:Между тем, это лишь предложение. Что ж, если все заинтересованные заговорят по-английски, ничего не придётся переводить. Ну а не заработает — никто не скажет, что мы не пытались.&lt;!--By the way, it is just a proposal. Hey, if everybody speaks english, very well, we won't have anything to translate. If the system does not work, at least we can say we tried.--&gt;


;For a coordination project, it would be much more practical if a single language of discussion is chosen.
:Of course it would be more practical; the question is: should we manage Beta the way that is easier for us English speakers or should we manage it the way everybody can take part in discussions about guidelines that will apply to all projects?


;Wikiversity Beta Motto?
:The shorter, the better. If you want your ideas to reach people speaking other languages, write short and understandable summaries. 


;What does Wikiversity Beta offer over Meta?
:


;Why do we need a Wikiversity Beta instead of using the Wikimedia Incubator?
:


;What about Wikiversity projects that are currently on Wikibooks, including non-English versions of Wikiversity?
:


;What is the sense behind splitting Wikiversity up into various separated language Wikies? Would it not be better to create courses and research reports in a multilingual environment such as Beta and have them translated in as many langages as translators see fit when new pages and documents become available?
:


== Notes and references ==

&lt;references /&gt;

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        <username>Hillgentleman</username>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">{{multilingual}}
&lt;div class=&quot;multilingual&quot;&gt;
{{ls|en|This category is for pages in Russian.}}
{{ls|fr|Cette catégorie rassemble les pages en russe.}}
{{ls|ru|Эта категория для страниц на русском языке.}}
{{ls|zh|此類為俄文頁也.}}
&lt;/div&gt;

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    <title>User talk:JmG</title>
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      <timestamp>2006-12-23T01:03:35Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Hillgentleman</username>
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      <comment>/* Wikiversité:Projet approuvé */</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">N'hésite pas, et merci pour ta motivation ! :) [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 20:44, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
:Oui, mais la fonction d'import n'est toujours pas activée à partir de en. [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 10:50, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

==European Project==
Hi JMG,

I don't speak French, so i will write in English. I suspect that the European Project didn't make it, is it. Do you think Wikiversity will be a succes?--[[User:Daanschr|Daanschr]] 11:57, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

==Wikiversité:Projet approuvé==
Dear, JmG.  In short, do whatever you like.  I am only collecting proposal in all languages and putting them in one place.  I have only made a place-holder for fr: and have not pasted anything. I have not found the German proposal. 

If you like, after you have finished your translation, ask Guillom to delete and move your version here.  Alternatively, we may just paste it here, citing the source and giving credits to every translator.
--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|書]] 01:02, 23 December 2006 (UTC)</text>
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&lt;center&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;[[Wikiversity:討論會|校園]] &lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/center&gt;
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==[[Help:FAQ/Zh|何謂 Wikiversity Beta?]]==

Wikiversity Beta 是協調 各 Wikiversity 计划的[[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/Zh|多语言]]平台, 以助策劃 wikiversity的[[Wikiversity:Mission|使命]]和一般[[#指导方针|指导方针]](例如：原创研究）。Beta 也是各语言wikiversity的一測試场。至今[[:en:Main page|英语]],[[:de:Hauptseite|德语]]和[[:es:Portada|西班牙文]]wikiversity已[[Wikiversity:separate projects|各自成站]]。 
*参看: [[Help:FAQ/Zh|常见问题解答]]; [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/Zh|多語言討論系統]]; [[Wikiversity:架構]]; [[Wikiversity:approved Wikiversity project proposal/Zh|已批准之維基大學提案]];[http://wikimania2006.wikimedia.org/wiki/Opening_Plenary_%28transcript%29#Wikiversity_.2826:35.29  Jimbo Wales, Wikimania 2006]

==現今討論==
*[[建校問題]]討論
*[[Wikiversity:研究範圍|研究範圍]]討論
*[[Wikiversity:架構]]
*''请協助草議将通用于所有语言版本的指引。'' 見下:

==編寫==
[[Wikiversity talk:Scope of research/Zh]], [[wikiversity:Scope of research/Zh]], [[Wikiversity:Research guidelines|研究指引]], [[Wikiversity:Original research/Zh]], [[Wikiversity:Secondary research/Zh]], [[Wikiversity:Communication/Zh]], [[Wikiversity:Mission]],[[Help:How to start a new discussion]],[[Wikiversity:Research/Zh]], [[Wikiversity:研究指引]]...

==[[Wikiversity:Separate projects|独立语言版本]]==

* [[Wikiversity:Reports/Zh|独立语言版本新闻]]

&lt;br clear=&quot;both&quot; /&gt;
==姊妹计划==

{{Sisterprojects}}
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      <comment>euh, pourquoi un redirect vers la page principale ? Normalement, cette page doit servir aux discussions en français</comment>
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[[Category:Research]]
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      <comment>/* Thanks */</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">Welcome to Wikiversity Beta, Jon :) [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 14:30, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

:Thank you, Guillom! &lt;tt&gt;=)&lt;/tt&gt; [[User:Jon Harald Søby|Jon Harald Søby]] 14:51, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Uauh! thank you for the reward, even having done such a small thing :O)--[[User:Javier Carro|Javier Carro]] 20:10, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

:Thanks yourself. [[Image:Crystal Clear app amor.png|20px]] [[User:Jon Harald Søby|Jon Harald Søby]] 15:15, 18 September 2006 (UTC)</text>
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{{ls|no|Jeg heter Jon Harald Søby, og jeg er en av Wikimedias [[m:Stewards|stewarder]]. Foruten å være steward, er jeg også byråkrat på Wikipedia på bokmål, og administrator en del andre steder.}}

{{ls|en|My name is Jon Harald Søby, and I am one of the [[m:Stewards|Stewards]] of Wikimedia. Besides being a Steward, I am also a bureaucrat at the Norwegian (Bokmål) Wikipedia, and administrator some other places.}}

{{ls|roa-rup|Numa a mea easte Jon Harald Søby, sh-mine escu un di [[m:Stewards|Stiurdzlji]] di Wikimedia. Pi ninga atsea tsi escu Steward, shi idhyia ashi escu un birocrat di Wikipedia (Bokmål) Norvighenã, shi administrator di ãndao alte locuri.}}

{{ls|da|Jeg hedder Jon Harald Søby, og jeg er en af Wikimedias [[m:Stewards|Stewards]]. Foruden at være en steward, er jeg også en bureaukrat på Wikipedia på bokmål, og administrator en del andre steder.}}

{{ls|de|Ich heisse Jon Harald Søby, und bin einer der [[m:Stewards|Stewards]] auf der Wikimedia. Ich bin auch Bürokrat in der norwegischen (Buchmal) Wikipedia, und Administrator in anderen Projekten.}}

{{ls|es|Me llamo Jon Harald Søby, y soy uno de los [[m:Stewards|Stewards]] de Wikimedia. También soy burócrata de la Wikipedia en noruego (bokmål), y bibliotecario en otros sitios.}}

{{ls|nn|Eg heiter Jon Harald Søby, og eg er ein av Wikimedias [[m:Stewards|stewarder]]. Eg er òg byråkrat på Wikipedia på bokmål, og administrator nokre andre stadar.}}

{{ls|sv|Jag heter Jon Harald Søby, och jag er en av Wikimedias [[m:Stewards|stewarder]]. Jag er också byråkrat på norska (bokmål) Wikipedia, og administratör nogra andra platser.}}

{{ls|fi|Olen Jon Harald Søby, yksi Wikimedian [[m:Stewards|ylivalvojista]]. Tämän lisäksi olen byrokraati kirjanorjakielisessä Wikipediassa sekä ylläpitäjä joissain muissa paikoissa.}}
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      <contributor>
        <ip>Redux</ip>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Adjusting color code of template for level 1 proficiency.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;float:left;border:solid #C0C8FF 1px;margin:1px&quot;&gt;
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        <ip>GurraJG</ip>
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      <comment>création depuis Wikicommons</comment>
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&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Denna användare talar '''[[:Category:User sv|svenska]]''' '''[[:Category:User sv-3|flytande]]'''. [[Category:User sv-3|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
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        <ip>Redux</ip>
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&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Denna användare har kunskaper på '''[[:Category:User sv-2|mellannivå]]''' i '''[[:Category:User sv|svenska]]'''. [[Category:User sv|{{PAGENAME}}]][[Category:User sv-2|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td style=&quot;font-size:8pt;padding:4pt;line-height:1.25em&quot;&gt;Denna användare har '''[[:Category:User sv-1|baskunskaper]]''' i '''[[:Category:User sv|svenska]]'''. [[Category:User sv-1|{{PAGENAME}}]]&lt;/td&gt;
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    <title>Wikiversity:Multilingualism/No</title>
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      <comment>&lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Wikiversity:Multilingualism}}

Wikiversity Beta er en global plattform som sikter på å koordinere Wikiversity-prosjekter på flere språk. For å kunne dra nytte av flere medlemmers meninger (ikke kun de som skriver engelsk), har Beta satt opp et effektivt flerspråklig diskusjonssystem.

==Nåværende system==
Med det nåværende systemet, er flerspråklighet kun et ettveisbegrep: først kommer kildesiden på engelsk, så blir det oversatt for å være til nytte for de som ikke snakker engelsk. Den største bakdelen ved dette systemet er at de som ikke skriver engelsk ikke kan delta i diskusjonen, det eneste de kan gjøre er å passivt lese det som er oversatt.

Siden det som diskuteres på Beta gjelder Wikivresity-prosjekter på alle språk, er det nødvendig at deltakere fra alle språk kan komme med sin mening.

==Foreslått system==
''Dette systemet kan diskuteres på diskusjonssiden.''

&lt;div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;width:50%;display:block;float:left;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion1.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''1''' &amp;ndash; Deltakere som starter en ny diskusjon skriver et kort sammendrag og legger til en lenke på koordinasjonssiden.]]
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;width:49%;display:block;float:right;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion2.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''2''' &amp;ndash; Oversettere oversetter sammendraget til andre språk, og legger til lenker på koordinasjonssiden.]]
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[[Image:Discussion3.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''3''' &amp;ndash; Folk diskutere på hvert språks diskusjonsside, sier sine meninger og spør spørsmål. De skriver et kort avsnitt som oppsummerer dette og skriver det på deres språks underside med et nytt ID-nummer. På koordinasjonssiden, legger de til ID-nummere og lenker til siit sammendrag.]]
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;width:49%;display:block;float:right;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion4.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''4''' &amp;ndash; Oversettere sjekker jevnlig koordinasjonssiden og reflekterer nye sammendrag på sine språk (med samme ID). De legger til lenker fra koordinasjonssiden.]]
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[[Image:Discussion5.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''5''' &amp;ndash; Diskusjonen fortsetter. Hvert nytt sammendrag gis en nytt unikt ID-nummer som identifisierer det på koordinasjonssiden og på alle språksider.]]
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;

===Retningslinjer for å få dette til å fungere===
*'''Jo kortere, jo bedre.''' Konsistens er aller viktigst for flerspråklige diskusjoner. Lange avsnitt vil antageligvis ikke bli oversatt, eller reflektert på andre språksider. Dette betyr at de nye ideene/kritikken/spørsmålene ikke vil få noe oppmerksomhet.
*'''Kunngjøring:''' Når en diskusjon startes, bør det kunngjøres på [[Wikiversity:Announcements/En]].
*'''Avsnittsnummerering:''' Avsnitt bør være nummererte for å kunne bli identifisert enkelt: første sammendrag er nr. 1, neste nr. 2, osv. Dette betyr at bidragsytere må sjekke andre sider før de starter et avsnitt, for å sikre at deres side er opdatert, og for å unngå nummerkonflikter.

===Fordeler ved dette systemet===
*Alle kan delta i diskusjonene.
*Deltakere må være kortfattede og fokusere på saken det gjelder.
*Konsensus kan finne sted mellom alle deltakerne samme hva deres språk er.

===Ulemper ved dette systemet===
*Systemet avhenger på antall oversettere og hvor effektive de er.

==Oversettelse==
Dersom du forstår mer enn ett språk, list deg opp på '''[[Wikiversity:Translation]]'''.

==Se også==
*[[Wikiversity:Language select]]

[[Category:Multilingualism|No]]
[[Category:NO|Multilingualism]]</text>
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        <username>Andre315</username>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Wikiversity:About}}

Wikiversity est un nouveau projet de la Fondation Wikimedia dédié à l'usage de la technologie wiki pour l'apprentissage en ligne.

Voir : une [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:About introduction] en anglais à Wikiversity.

[[Category:Wikiversity]]
[[Category:FR]]</text>
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    <title>Wikiversity:Language select/No</title>
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        <username>Jon Harald Søby</username>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages}}

''For en mer detaljert versjon av denne siden, se [[m:Language select]].''

'''[[m:Language select|Språkvalg]]''' lar brukere skjule fremmede språk på flerspråklige sider. Dette lar brukere som leser fransk kun se fransk på en flerspråklig side (men de vil fortsatt se spansk på en side som kun har spansk).

==Hvordan velge et språk==
*For å velge et språk, skriv inn språkets [[List of ISO 639-1 codes|ISO 639-1]]-kode i boksen (&lt;tt&gt;no&lt;/tt&gt; for norsk), og trykk på ➤.
*For å vise alle språk, skriv &lt;tt&gt;mul&lt;/tt&gt; eller trykk på ⋙.

==Bruk==
===JavaScript===
JavaScript-metoden er slått på på Beta som standard. Du kan slå den av ved å skrive inn følgende linje i [[Special:Mypage/monobook.js|din JS-fil]].

&lt;pre&gt;ls_enable = false;&lt;/pre&gt;

Du kan se et eksempel på javascriptet nedenunder. Dersom språkvalg er slått av, vil all teksten vises.

&lt;div class=&quot;multilingual&quot;&gt;
{{ls|de|Dieser Text ist Deutsch.}}
{{ls|en|This text is English.}}
{{ls|fr|Ce texte est Français.}}
{{ls|no|Denne teksten er på norsk.}}
{{ls|pt|Este texto está em Português.}}
{{ls|sc|Custu testu est in Sardu.}}
{{ls|la|Haec nota Latine scriptus est.}}
{{ls|zh|这些文字是中文。}}
&lt;/div&gt;

Du kan se JavaScript-koden på [{{fullurl:MediaWiki:Monobook.js|action=render}} MediaWiki:Monobook.js]

==Merking av språk==
Malen {{[[template:ls|ls]]}} forenkler implenteringa av språkvalg.

&lt;pre&gt;{{ls|no|Denne teksten er på norsk.}}&lt;/pre&gt;

[[Category:Multilingualism|No]]
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      <text xml:space="preserve">{{languages}}

Wikiversity er et nytt prosjekt fra Wikimedia-stiftelsen som handler om å bruke wiki-teknologien til å støtte læring på internett.

Se [[:en:Wikiversity:About|en introduksjon til Wikiversity]] på den engelskspråklige versjonen.

[[Category:Wikiversity|No]]
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        <username>Hillgentleman</username>
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      <minor />
      <comment>Hello.  Fixed your link.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fang_Aili here].</text>
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      <comment>Redirecting to [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism]]</comment>
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        <username>CQ</username>
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      <comment>Interlingual Beta Club</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">The explanations on this page create ''confusio'' in my head rather than helping clarity.

The current ways of doing things are mentioned but not really explained.
Should we follow them for now?

A future way is proposed with several pictures which are neither very clear nor explain well how the future shall be working.

: Also an obvious problem - parallelity of access - is not addressed.
: This is specifically peculiar, since in order to author a contribution to a discussion, several pages need to be altered consistently.
: My suggestion: Have one master page which collects all the ''real contributions'' and require it be accessed for alteration in the following manner:
:# alter by quickly creating another headline at the end, put your sign &lt;nowiki&gt;--~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt; beneath it, and store it.
:# In case of an edit conflict, abort your edit, and restart the process.
:# If not an edit conflict, section-edit your previously created contribution.
:# When saving your edit while it is not finished yet, leave a clear mark like &quot;ongoing edit&quot; so as to inform potential translators, and readers.
:# When done, store it and (except maybe for cosmetic changes, additional references, etc.) do not alter it any more.
:# If you want to add something, start a new section (It's ok to add a backward and a forward link between them)

The picture series with their comments give a faint idea of what might be intended. Yet as described, it is not workable yet, lacking clarity.

* It would be nice to explain these pictures better. Use terms of what exactly to do.
* I suggest to write names down, of the yellow-brownish and the green pages. Avoid terms like &quot;discussion page&quot;, just name it, e.g. &lt;code&gt;{{NS:Talk}}:example/fra&lt;/code&gt; for the french talk page if that is meant to be so (i.e. &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{NS:Talk}}:example/fra&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;).
* I suggeest to name or number the sample enties (colored blocks) in the images for reference. If that means replacing images by tables containing real text, ok, then be it so.
* It would be helpful to replace the red, blue, and green bars by actual sample text. &quot;lorem ipsum&quot; may suffice, but references should be there, not only section headings (or numbers) as asked for above. Thus it would be visible how to refer to contributions, how to refer to short summaries, and how to refer to translations of either, and where these actually are stored.
* How does a translator handle missing translations before the one he is adding? Create a series of empty headings, or not?
* What exactly does one do to start a new discussion? On which page? How to find a name for the page?
* I suggest to put clear headlines and directives at the beginning of each multilingual page, e.g. &quot;This is a page of short summaries in Greek&quot; &quot;To add to the discussion, goto page XXXX&quot; etc.

Finally: When shall that new scheme be used? Will a voting be held? Someplace it seems to be used, maybe, but perhaps not clearly followed?
--[[User:Purodha|Purodha]] 16:59, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

==Dutch version==
I want to start a Dutch version of multilingualism.--[[User:Daanschr|Daanschr]] 19:30, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

==Problems with the proposition at present==
Insisting on being short can be bad for a discussion where the details are more important then the concepts.

I see a few major problems in summarizing all contributions of participants of a discussion of the same language. 1) It ends the individual perspective, which means less freedom, more bureaucracy and politics and less consideration for objectivity and subjectivity. 2) Languages will be politically put against eachother. Political blocks of languages will be formed. 3) A speaker of a language with lots of participants will have less influence on a debate, then a speaker of a language with a small amount of participants, but enough translators. 

I don't agree that consensus will be reached. My experience in life, on Usenet, on Wikipedia is that people nearly always keep their own views. These views will confront eachother in unendless powerstruggles. A method to prevent politization could be decentralization and deregulation.

My proposition is that translators will translate individual input into other languages instead of translating summaries. To make sure that all languages can partake to a discussion, it will be required that an organization will be formed that organizes discussions and which will allocate resources (people) to tasks (with deadlines). What must be ensured to my opinion is the freedom of those who join a discussion.--[[User:Daanschr|Daanschr]] 13:06, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

== Interlingual Beta Club ==

I've proposed the [[Wikipedia:v:Wikiversity:Interlingual Beta Club|Interlingual Beta Club]] on the English Wikiversity hoping to address some of the problems stated above. I'm hoping that this organization can be replicated on the other Wikiversities and help foster a spirit of collaboration. This could be the organization that [[User:Daanschr|Daanschr]] proposed above. [[User:CQ|CQ]] 20:44, 29 November 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">==Thanks==
[[Image:Interlingual Barnstar.png|thumb|For fixing the Spanish translation on my user page. [[User:Jon Harald Søby|Jon Harald Søby]] 11:03, 17 September 2006 (UTC)]]
For fixing the Spanish translation on my user page. I'm still learning Spanish, and always looking to improve it (I learned the word ''sitio'' a few days back, but didn't think of using it on my user page). Thank you! [[User:Jon Harald Søby|Jon Harald Søby]] 11:03, 17 September 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">''Be aware that this is only a proposal for discussion. It isn't yet a policy, neither a guideline.'' 

==The proposal==
&lt;center&gt;&lt;u&gt;Language learning groups of an intermediate and advanced level should be created in the Wikiversity language domain of the language they are learning.&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/center&gt; 

That means, for example, that all learners of English with a certain knowledge of the language should participate in learning groups created at the english Wikiversity.

===Pros from a pedagogical perspective===

*The students at such levels (intermediate and advanced) should make the effort of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_Immersion language immersion] into the language they are learning. That is a fundamental step in the process of language learning for several reasons:
**Until now, they have adquired enough grammatical knowledge and vocabulary to build short texts, but they still lack the habit of using the language they are learning.
**Immersed in the learning language, they are forced to write in that language because they will interact with users who don’t talk their mother tongue. 
**The students '''get fluency on writing and reading''' conversations and '''loose the fear''' to use their new language. 
**Besides, it will be '''easier to get adviced by native speakers''' about the common mistakes committed by the language learner.

===Pros from an organizational perspective===

*The '''formation of language learning groups will be much more efficient'''. Especially learners in minoritarian languages will have it much easier to build a group of students with whom they can interact.
*Contact between users of different Wikiversity language domains would take place, thus the sense of community increases and they could learn of other wikiversity experiences.
*Wikiversities with low activity could get new members.  

=== Contras ===
*There may be multilingual language learning projects where the goal is not a definite and unique language. For example, intercomprehension between connected languages. In such cases, I would propose that multilingual learning experiences are developed in beta.wikiversity. Its multilingual environment would be ideal for such a project.
*Some languages do not, and may not ever, have a Wikiversity.  For these languages, some other method of language learning would be absolutely necessary.
*Teachers would have to be able to deal with students who do not speak the language of instruction, and my get frustrated or confused more easily.


--[[User:Javier Carro|Javier Carro]] 21:44, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

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      <text xml:space="preserve">Interesting. Do you see opportunities to integrate the [[wikipedia:en:Learning by teaching|Learning by teaching]] method?--[[User:Jeanpol|Jeanpol]] 04:24, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
:I believe that such methods should take place in wikiversity, but I don't think it is the question in this talk. Maybe we can begin a talk concerning pedagogical methods including Problem based learning, project based learning and other [[wikipedia:en:Active learning|Active learning]] methods ? -- [[User:JmG|JmG]] 12:33, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
::OK. I'm keeping at this topic.--[[User:Jeanpol|Jeanpol]] 13:22, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

== Immersion is great but who is the lifeguard ? ==

I think that it is a great idea that students go to foreign universities. Interesting exchange of views will arise from people from different countries. Students will naturlly read texts in their new language. 

I am not a language teacher, but will it be natural for &quot;teachers&quot; (I am not sure of my glossary) to attend course in a different university.
On one other side, it will be certainly intersting for &quot;teachers&quot; from different countries to share knowledge, experiences in the same wikiversity.

For multilingual language learning projects, would it not be more practical to propose a portal in the different languages, and host discussion in any wikiversity, with possibly the same &quot;beta&quot; multilingualism system if useful as pedagogical method. 
-- [[User:JmG|JmG]] 12:22, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

:I don´t understand very well your doubt. You said:
::''will it be natural for &quot;teachers&quot; (I am not sure of my glossary) to attend course in a different university.''

If it is a question, I would answer that those who want to &quot;teach&quot; a language in Wikiversity should not have a problem to do it in the language they will &quot;teach&quot;. They should use simple structures to communicate with the learners, easy vocabulary and simple explanations. Good tools for that are the monolingual dictionaries orientated to advanced language learners and the &quot;teacher&quot; may also have a look to language learning books where everything is written in one language, using many ilustrations. I don´t see the problem with that. Problems will arise to the student when he doesn´t understand something, but that belongs to the second language learning process. They should go through it. 
--[[User:Javier Carro|Javier Carro]] 17:33, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
:Either way, this will provide more of a challenge for less experienced teachers.  In addition, I've added the issue of languages which may never get wikiversities.  [[User:128.187.0.164|128.187.0.164]] 23:12, 8 October 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">Regarding official information about myself, please look here: '''[[w:Jean-Pol Martin|Jean-Pol Martin]]''', and here: '''[[w:Learning by teaching|Learning by teaching]]'''

= My current international projects =

== Constructing knowledge with young people in Africa ==
'''Here: [[w:User:jeanpol/Africa|Africa]]'''

== The students-network (IPK-module) ==
Within the university I'm offering a [[module]] able to be inclueded in every program of studies regardless of the grade, the subject and the students nationality. The students obtains 5 credit points (130 work-houres).&lt;br&gt;
The frame is following:&lt;br&gt;
*1. Participants: currently the module is conceived for students but it could be adapted to every sort of participants.
*2. Communication: virtualy (depending from participants-location its possible to organize meetings)
*3. Duration: about 6 months with an amount of 130 work-houres.
*4. Tasks:&lt;br&gt;
- Chosing a country where the projects were carried out&lt;br&gt; 
- Building students-groups (bi- or trinational) about 10 persons each group&lt;br&gt;
- Chosing a topic for the research (free and depending from the subjects that students are studying)&lt;br&gt;
- Setting up a desing for the research (agenda)&lt;br&gt;
- Setting up a homepage in order to present the research-steps and the research results at the end of the projects&lt;br&gt;
- Planing a journey in the target-country&lt;br&gt;
- Carrying out the journey&lt;br&gt;
- Presenting the results at the end of the project&lt;br&gt;
*5. In case of success, the participants get a certificate (5 credits).&lt;br&gt;

===Searching for and finding IPK-students in=== 
Germany, New York, Japan, Kasan (Russian), Bahr Dahr, Addis Abeba (Ethiopian), Sofia (Bulgarian), Istanbul.&lt;br&gt;
Here my blog:&lt;br&gt;
http://eo-007-ipk.ku-eichstaett.de/ipk-blog

==Weblinks==

*[http://www.ku-eichstaett.de/Fakultaeten/SLF/romanistik/didaktik/Forschung/ipk/millennium/ The millenium project]
*[http://www.ldl.de Lernen durch Lehren (LdL)]
*[http://www.projektkompetenz.de Internet- und Projektkompetenz (IPK)]
*[http://www.ku-eichstaett.de/Fakultaeten/SLF/romanistik/didaktik/Forschung/ipk/palast/hp_liste The palace of knowledge]

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      <text xml:space="preserve">I'm waiting for contributions!;-))--[[User:Jeanpol|Jeanpol]] 04:25, 20 September 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">I'm trying to do [[:en:Topic:Philosophy|philosophy]] over on the [[:en:Wikiversity:Main Page|English Wikiversity]]. [[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|E-mail me]] if you need me.</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">==Captcha==
'''headshits''' was the captcha text I was presented with when I created my beta wiki user account just now. All instances of words such as '''shits''' should be removed from the captcha gizmo, shouldn't they? Headshits??? What else is in there? 8-} --[[User:Rogerhc|Rogerhc]] 22:50, 23 September 2006 (UTC)</text>
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[[Image:roger_pic_150x200.png|frame|Roger Chrisman]]

I founded [http://wikigogy.org Wikigogy.org] in April 2006 using MediaWiki software to pick up the TEFL/TESL topic where Wikipedia must, as an encyclopedia, let go.

I hope '''Wikiversity''' will develop clear effective navigation so that it can be a practical alternative to Wikigogy.

Inspired by the Internet as a knowledge collaboration tool

Taught English in China 1996 to 1999

MA TESL, University of San Francisco, 1996

BFA, San Francisco Art Institute, 1991

===Projects===
I am involved in
* [http://wikigogy.org Wikigogy.org] -- a global project for '''teachers of English as a second or foreign language''' to share lessons and ideas.
* [http://wikigogy.org/TEFLChina_email_lists TEFLChina email lists]. I started these while in China with help from other English teachers in China and they exist today very much because of the collaborative spirit and volunteer help of the members they serve.

===Contact===
Roger Chrisman

roger at rogerchrisman dot com

Palo Alto, California USA 

(650) 387-4732


==Pages of interest==
*[[v:en.Wikiversity:Naming_conventions#Page_and_header_titles]]
*[[v:en:Tangerine is indigenous fruit of Asia]]
*[[v:en:Orange is indigenous fruit of Asia]]
*[[V:EN:Oranges are indigenous fruit of Asia]]


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      <text xml:space="preserve"> You can check me out at [[WikiPedia:User:BlankVerse]].
 You can contact me at [[WikiPedia:User talk:BlankVerse]].

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[[CentralWikia:User:BlankVerse|wikia]] &lt;!-- http://wikia.org --&gt;
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==My other Wikipedia user pages==
* [[w:de:Benutzer:BlankVerse]]
* [[w:en:User:BlankVerse]] 
* [[w:es:Usuario:BlankVerse]]
* [[w:ja:&amp;#21033;&amp;#29992;&amp;#32773;:BlankVerse]] 
* [[w:simple:User:BlankVerse]] 
* [[w:zh:User:BlankVerse]] 

==Beta Wikiversity statistics==

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*At 08:50, Jan 16, 2007 (UTC): 582 pages, 38 articles, 11 files, 208 users &amp; 3 admins; version 1.10alpha (r19302)
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      <text xml:space="preserve">{{hello}} {{welcome}} [[User:BlankVerse|BlankVerse]] 12:52, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

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Please see [[m:User:Digitalme|this page]] for a list of all my accounts.  I am a sysop on the English Wikiversity.</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">This is a first version in a hurry, it doesn't comply with Babel requirements, I will fix it if subject is discussed.

==English version ==
The european commission has proposed a work program [http://europa.eu.int/econtentplus eContentPlus], which we believe could fund a project concerning the wikiversity.

The call propose funds for educational content in a '''multicultural and multilingual''' environment. &quot;The aim is usability and quality of existing content. Actions in the program will use proven '''state-of-the-art technical solutions''' and will be geared towards '''innovation in organisation and in deployment''' .

Wikiversity fits all these requirements.

The call concerns '''formal education system''', which means compulsory, secondary general and higher education. This means that actors of such project should be involved in such education. I think that most of people involved in beta Wikiversity are also involved in formal education.

Wikiversity would have great benefits in such project, including non formal education, as well as european union.

The main problem is the deadline : 19 October 2006, 17:00 Hs. Luxembourg time.
Defining such project in such a short time would be very hard, but wiki will surely help !

Are some people interested ?

=== Potential works ===

*Intercomprehension between language speakers of connected languages.

:I want to begin a project in this area. This course is based on the EU proposal [http://www.eurocomcenter.com/ Eurocom], therefore I am pretty sure they could be quite interested on observing how their proposal developes on a educational wiki. I believe that multilingual educational resources can be created using links to wiktionaries or to WiktionaryZ. The goal is that users can easily learn to understand other similar languages to their mother tongue. Emphasis is made on reading and listening. With this course, the students should achieve an intercomprehensibility level enough so that they can understand each other talking their mother tongues. 
:The problem is that nowadays this proposal doesn't fit to any '''formal education system''', or does it?... --[[User:Javier Carro|Javier Carro]] 17:17, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
:: Do you plan to use this material in any course in a school ? If yes, it should be seen as formal education. No matter it could be used by a broader audience! -- [[User:JmG|JmG]] 19:41, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
:::No, I'm not teacher in any school. I would like to encourage creating language learning groups at Wikiversity in this area. --[[User:Javier Carro|Javier Carro]] 21:14, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

:I am from the Netherlands and i would like to help with this project.--[[User:Daanschr|Daanschr]] 11:54, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

== Potential organisations interested==
[http://www.enst-bretagne.fr ENST Bretagne] french engineering high school</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Babel|es|en-3|de-3|fr-3|pt-2|ca-2|zh-1}}

You can find me at [http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario_Discusi%C3%B3n:Ecelan]</text>
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If you need my assistance, please contact me either on my [[wikipedia:de:Benutzer Diskussion:Sebmol|German Wikipedia]] or my [[:en:User talk:Sebmol|English Wikiversity]] talk pages since I will check those most often.
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&lt;small&gt;&lt;p align=right&gt;[[Wikiversity:Babel|Babel]] • [[Help:Contents|Ajuda]]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/small&gt;

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===O que é o Wikiversidade beta?===
[[Image:Crystal_Clear_mimetype_readme.png|right|80px]]

Este projeto é uma plataforma global que pretende coordenar as diversas edições idiomáticas do Wikiversidade. Tal [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism|coordenação multilingüe]] se dará através da [[Wikiversity:Mission|missão]] e políticas comuns do Wikiversidade (por exemplo, a relativa a pesquisa científica original).

O sítio Wikiversidade beta também é um espaço de desenvolvimento (incubadora) para as Wikiversidades em diversos idiomas. Até o momento, existem [[Wikiversity:Separate projects|projetos em separado]] para as edições [[:en:|em Inglês]] e [[:de:|em Alemão]].
[[Image:Sciences_humaines.svg|right|80px]]

'''Se você deseja criar uma nova Wikiversidade''', você precisa de pelo menos dez participantes ativos dispostos a editar no idioma que deseje criar uma wiki em separado. Quando você conseguir tal quantia, poderá [[:m:Requests for new languages#Requests_for_Wikiversity_Languages|requisitar no Meta]] a criação da nova wiki. Nesse meio tempo, adicione a página principal de seu projeto em [[Template:Main page]].

=== Políticas ===

''Por gentileza, ajude a desenvolver (e traduzir) nossas políticas internacionais que se apliquem a quaisquer edição idiomática.''
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* [[Wikiversity:Scope of research|Escopo das pesquisas]] &amp;mdash; deverá a Wikiversidade permitir todas as formas de pesquisa, incluindo pesquisas científicas originais?
* [[Wikiversity:Research guidelines|Regras para pesquisas]] &amp;mdash; quais regras são necessárias para existir pesquisa científica de forma parecida com as do meio acadêmico?

=== Em progresso ===
* Desenvolvimento do portal multilingüe http://www.wikiversity.org no [[:m:Talk:Www.wikiversity.org template|Meta]].
* Participar de nossa atual [[:m:Wikiversity/logo|campanha para novo logotipo]].
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===Projetos paralelos===

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      <text xml:space="preserve">Bem-vindo, LOL! =D &lt;span style=&quot;font-variant:small-caps&quot;&gt;[[User:SallesNeto BR|Salles Neto]]&lt;/span&gt; [[Image:Bandeira_de_Roraima.svg|24px|Roraima]] &lt;sup&gt;[[user talk:SallesNeto_BR|@]]&lt;/sup&gt; 18:18, 30 September 2006 (UTC)</text>
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10.12.1984 Eskişehir/Turkey.
A Turkish User.
 
Nickname is generated by combining :

Necrocapo = [[Necromancer]] + [[Capoeira]]</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">== The university-course: internet- and projectcompetence ==

=== Tools ===
*'''[http://people.freenet.de/grzega/BGE.htm Basic global English]'''

=== Aims === 
Developing communication-skills in order to enhance the flow of information between young people (students), world wide.
The communication should focuse on relevant topics (mainly economics) so the participants enhance their knowledge-level.
Especially they have to focuse on problems that mankind is facing, like poverty (see the '''[http://www.un.org/millenniumgoals/ UN-Millenium development goals]''').
The target is to build a world-wide network (think tank) including young people (especially students)  searching f or solutions for crucial mankind-problems.

=== Human resources in education ===
Facing mankinds problems it is opportune to mobilize as many intellectual resources as possible in order to resolve the emerging troubles. The students have to be trained to construct pertinent knowledge together (for example using the method [[w:Learning by teaching|Learning by teaching]]). Students can be trained in constructing knowledge outside the classroom too. They have to adopt following attitudes: 
*Be aware that they are bearing resources
*Be aware that they have to increase their own resources in order to be more attractive inside the community
*Be aware that they can increase their own resources if they communicate
*Be aware that they can increase their own resources if they share their knowledge with other people
*Ability to identify resource from other community members and to make this resource available for all the group
*Ability to search for pertinent resources outside the group
*Ability to connect people looking for resources with people proposing resources
*Ability to organize collective thinking in networks

= Structure of the ipc-course = 
*'''Module''': 6 month – 130 work hours – little teams (max. 8 persons) work on a topic they have choose for themselves – the results of their research were uploaded on individual homepages
*'''Current number of participants''': approximately 100 students are involved each semester worldwide (Germany, USA, Bulgaria, Russia, Turkey). 
*'''Partnership''': with universities in Germany (Augsburg, Virtual Bavarian University), in Turkey, Bulgaria and Russia.
*'''Staff''': The students were trained by a professor and by tutors. Tutors are students who have achieved the module during former terms. Currently approximately 10 tutors are in charge.

=== Certificate (in German)===
*'''[http://www.ku-eichstaett.de/Fakultaeten/SLF/romanistik/didaktik/Forschung/ipk/modul/abschluss/HF_sections/content/zertifkat_muster.pdf Internet- und Projektkompetenz]'''
== Overview: Courses and participants ==
*'''[http://de.wikiversity.org/wiki/Kurs:Internet-_und_Projektkompetenz/Kurse Winter 2006-2007]
'''

== Blog ==
[http://ipk-blog.ku-eichstaett.de/ Network building: Russia - Bulgaria - Istanbul - Ethiopia - Japan]

== First attempts with African young people ==
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jeanpol/Africa Trying to collaborate with Ethiopians]

== If you want to ask questions about the IPC-Course ==
'''[[Course: Internet- and projectcompetence/questions|Click Here]]'''

== Links ==
[http://www.projektkompetenz.de The homepage in German]


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      <text xml:space="preserve">== When does the course begin? ==
You can begin immediately, sofar you find some student willing to start a research-project with you.--[[User:Jeanpol|Jeanpol]] 06:46, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

== What should I do right now? ==
Thinking about a land where you want to carry out your research (mainly interviews or questionnaire).--[[User:Jeanpol|Jeanpol]] 06:46, 3 October 2006 (UTC)


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      <text xml:space="preserve">Please refer to [http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuário_Discussão:PatríciaR my discussion] on [http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Página_principal pt:Wikipédia]!</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">Please refer to [http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuário_Discussão:PatríciaR my discussion] on [http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Página_principal pt:Wikipédia]!</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">== Hallo Frank ==

Are you [http://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=User:Frank_Schulenburg&amp;diff=31443&amp;oldid=18878 leaving] the German-language Wikiversity? Someone else also asked to be desysopped yesterday. What's going on? [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 08:48, 4 October 2006 (UTC)</text>
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*[[Wikiversity talk:Scope of research/Zh]]
*[[wikiversity:Scope of research/Zh]]
*[[Wikiversity:Announcements/Zh]]
*[[Wikiversity:Research guidelines/Zh]]
*[[Wikiversity:Research/Zh]]
*[[Wikiversity:Original research/Zh]]
*[[Wikiversity:Secondary research/Zh]]
*[[Wikiversity:Reports/Zh]]
*[[Wikiversity translations/De to En archive]]
*[[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/Zh]]
*[[Help:FAQ/Zh]]
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*[[:Category:Page_allowing_language_selection]]
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全翻譯? 應該加自己的討論.[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 04:24, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

*我覺得應該全翻譯為中文  個人贊成以繁體方式呈現 --[[User:許胖|許胖]]

==&quot;維基大學&quot; 之名==
我更喜歡&quot;維基學院&quot;:[[:en:Wikiversity:Wikiversity students]].-[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 04:28, 10 October 2006 (UTC)</text>
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== 1 ==
''來自英語參與者''

[[Wikiversity talk:Scope of research/Zh|研究範圍討論頁]]討論維基學院之內可能允許之[[Wikiversity:Original research|創新/原始研究]]活動.
#產生新知識的文獻回顧。
# 維基學院內, 使用文獻回顧外之研究方法 之研究計劃([http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Bloom_clock_project 例]).
#涉及維基學院外之學院研究員之合作研究計劃  ([http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Astronomy_Project 例]).
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== 2 ==
''來自德語參與者''

首先一一般觀察: 在德國文化實踐中無&quot;原始&quot;和&quot;次生&quot;研究之別.
因此, 這裡唯一有相干的詞語是 &quot;研究&quot;, 因而 此詞語 涵蘊 一套超越唯文獻(en: ''merely literary'') 的 重要(en: ''critical'') 方法學.  

1. 此討論 應該從 &quot;研究&quot;一詞的定義開始。 以後,我們謹提出(這是德語科學社群公認的): 研究是有條不紊地尋求知識的過程(en:''research is the methodical search for knowledge''). 

2. 從我們的觀點, &quot;研究&quot;本身 的定義 或多或少 因學科而異. Hence it follows that the area specialists of each area should decide for themselves, what is meant by research and what kind of research it should be permitted to do.  A universally binding rule for all specialist areas in Wikiversity appears to us problematic. 

3.至今, 各維基媒體項目的各語言版本 各自獨立地釐定 其內容和方向, 亦各自獨立地釐定 其內部運作程序
(例如, 德文Wikpedia 和德文Wikisource 計劃與其相應英文計劃明顯不同)。
這情況有利思想多元化 。 因此這項原則亦應該適用於維基學院。 所以我們建議, 容許何種研究, 應由各專業人員及各語言版本自行決定。
([http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity_translations/De_to_En_archive 源文])

== 3 ==
''來自英語參與者''

此頁:[[Wikiversity:Research/En]] 需要被翻譯. 它包括維基媒體基金理事會 關於 整個Wikiversity 社區怎樣開發 將適用於整個Wikiversity 項目的研究政策 的指示.

即使德語人不熟悉, 維基媒體基金理事會極關注&quot;原始研究&quot;. &quot;原始研究&quot;一詞曾出現於
[http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Theoriefindung Wikipedia:Theoriefindung]. The distinction to be made is between:&lt;BR&gt;1) 現今[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wp:nor No Original Research] 政策之下在wikipedia 中的次生研究
(文獻回顧(en: ''literature review''))  &lt;BR&gt;and&lt;BR&gt;2)NOR 政策不容許的其它研究

若維基學院要主持不被NOR政策限制的研究活動, 則維基學院需要建立同時適用於途所有語言的研究政策.  
----

''[Note: Much to my regret your answer shows me that the improper Babelfish-translation lead to misunderstandings. Is there any possibility to handle this in a different way? --[[User:Frank Schulenburg|Frank Schulenburg]] 08:52, 4 September 2006 (UTC)]''

&quot;improper Babelfish-translation&quot; &lt;-- the translation of [#2] was later modified, see: [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity_translations/De_to_En_archive Wikiversity translations/De to En archive]

== 4 ==
*(Machine translated,then further edits by smithgrrl [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity_translations#needed_translation_.28high_priority.29_2 see translations page])

After some thought, [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity_translations/7_September_IRC we on IRC #wikiversity-en] came to the conclusion that probably the best translation is to divide the categories into  &quot;comparative research and further (single-focus?) research&quot;. Another translation does not appear to have much meaning. Likewise the additional phrase &quot;active research&quot; is rather odd and is used in a different context. [http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:Aschoeke Aschoeke]

== 5 ==
I see part of the distinction &quot;original research&quot;/&quot;secondary research&quot; covered by the German terms: „empirische Forschung“/„Literaturstudium und Dokumentation“ (i.e. &quot;empirical Research&quot;/&quot;Literature study and Documentation&quot;). --Purodha 00:55, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

If the committee regulation means to implement the Wikipedia rule &quot;No original research&quot; here, then we should imho rename the project to &quot;Wiki-College&quot;. --Purodha 00:55, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

==6==
I think, one should let both forms appear and indicate by some kind of diacritical mark, whether the particular project is referring to a primary scientific or secondary scientific source. It occurs to me that we might do something similar to the &quot;this is a Stub&quot;reference in the English Wikipedia. Perhaps some kind of similar hypertext can be furnished so as to give a description of the project next to the actual project text, and that way the project can be described in detail (similarly to the way the User pages work). [[User:Joergel|Joergel]] 11:35, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Ask
a) Is it possible or not to operate in the context of the Wikiversity original research rubric?
b) In the meantime there is speculation from different sides, as to how the actual goal and function of the Wikiversity should be thought out. Wouldn't it be possible to set up a single space for this [discussion] with Frank Schulenberg as moderator (since he's the person who brought wikiversity to life in the first place)?

*[En: Cormaggio]: 我們需要清楚地認出在維基學府允許研究有什麼潛在危險, 並且為接受和應付研究的各方面勾畫一架構。
*[En: JWSchmidt]以人為對象的研究
**誰評論研究的評論者?

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      <text xml:space="preserve">因此, 這裡唯一 有相關的 詞語 是 &quot;研究&quot;, 因而 此詞語 涵蘊 一套 超越文字表面的 方法系統.  

1. The discussion should begin with a definition of the term &quot;research&quot;. Subsequently, we would like to suggest the following formulation, which is common to German-language science enterprises: &quot;research is the methodical search for knowledge&quot;.

2. 從我們的觀點, &quot;研究&quot;本身 的定義 或多或少 因學科而異. discipline dependent. Hence it follows that the area specialists of each area should decide for themselves, what is meant by research and what kind of research it should be permitted to do. A universally binding rule for all specialist areas in Wikiversity appears to us problematic.

3. Thus far the individual language versions of the different Wikimedia projects have independently determined their own content and direction, as well as their internal operational procedures (for example, both both the German-language Wikpedia and the German-language Wikisource project differ substantially from their respective counterparts in the English language). This state of affairs is positive in that it contributes to intellectual diversity, and this principle should apply to Wikiversity as well. Therefore we would suggest that, the decision, as to what kinds of research should be permitted, should be left to the invididual specialist areas as well as the individual language versions.&quot; (translation source)

&lt;!- 因而, 唯一的相關的期限這裡is&quot;research&quot; 並且, 這個期限暗示超越僅僅文藝的一套重要方法學。 
1. 討論應該從期限開始&quot;研究的&quot; 定義。隨後, 我們會想建議以下公式化, 對德語科學企業是共同: &quot;研究是有條不紊的查尋知識&quot; 。

 2. 從我們的觀點&quot;研究的&quot; 定義就其本身而言, 是對可觀的程度, 磨練受撫養者。因此它隨後而來, 各個區域的區域專家應該決定為他們自己, 什麼由研究意味並且什麼樣的研究它應該被允許做。一個普遍地束縛的規則為所有特長範圍在Wikiversity 發表對我們疑難。 
3. 不同的Wikimedia 項目的各自的語言版本獨立地至今確定了他們自己的內容並且方向, 並且他們的內部操作的規程(例如, 德語Wikpedia 和德語Wikisource 項目與他們的各自相對物極大地不同在英語) 。這事態是正面的因為它對智力變化貢獻, 並且這項原則應該適用於Wikiversity 。所以我們會建議那, 決定, 至於什麼樣的研究應該被允許, 應該聽任invididual 特長範圍並且各自的語言版本。&quot; ([ http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity_translations/De_to_En_archive 翻譯來源])</text>
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==== 2006 十二月====
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====2006 十一月====
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====2006 十月====

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{{announce/local|16|[[:es:Portada|西班牙文維基學院]]啟航.}}
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====2006 9月====
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====2006 八月====
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'''原始研究''' (或'''創新研究''') 與[[Wikiversity:次生研究|次生研究]]成對比。所有學術研究均以評估現有知識開始。次生研究亦常會導致創新。
Wikipedia 允許不導致創新之次要研究。

== 一般原始研究 與 維基媒體基金會各計劃內之原始研究 概述 ==
原始研究在教育中充當重要角色. 教育不限於傳播現有知識。 每一教育機構的一重要作用 是世代相傳研究之''文化'' 與追求學術新知之方法.
待續:&lt;!--
One of the best ways for students to learn is to become involved in conducting research projects. Given its education-oriented mission, it is natural for Wikiversity to concern itself with all types of research.

The term &quot;Original research&quot; has a special meaning within Wikimedia Foundation projects. Within Wikimedia Foundation projects &quot;Original research&quot; is used to refer to material placed in articles by wiki editors that has not been previously published by a reliable source. It includes unpublished material, for example, arguments, concepts, data, ideas, statements, or theories, or any new analysis or synthesis of published material that appears to advance a position — or, in the words of Wikipedia's co-founder Jimbo Wales, that would amount to a &quot;novel narrative or historical interpretation&quot; ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research source]). 

Given:&lt;BR&gt;1) the past position of the Wikimedia Foundation with respect to Original research ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wp:nor No Original Research])&lt;BR&gt;and&lt;BR&gt;2) the fundamental role of research in education&lt;BR&gt; Wikiversity must chart a new set of policies and guidelines for how to incorporate original research activities within a Wikimedia Foundation project. 

The [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Approved_Wikiversity_project_proposal approved Wikiversity project proposal] included this paragraph about the scope of Wikiversity research:

*&quot;維基學院能為[[meta:Wikimedia Research Network|維基研究網]] 或其他以維基為本之[[meta:research|研究]]參加者作研究貯藏庫, 亦可維持[[meta:Wikimania|為維基狂(Wikimania)]]之公報(''procceedings''). Whether or not Wikiversity will ever host original research in addition to secondary research is the subject of debate (see [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity_talk:Approved_Wikiversity_project_proposal the project proposal talk page]) though original research could take place based on materials in Wikiversity (eg. materials on sociology prompt a survey research project). Guidelines for what would be appropriate research will be developed during the beta phase of the project through a community consensus process, and reviewed (by the [[meta:Special projects committee|Special projects committee]]) after six months. There will not ''necessarily'' be 'approval' of research added to Wikiversity - though some sort of review process needs to be established which will deal with potential problems.&quot;
--&gt;
==維基學院研究計劃之範圍==
1) 二手研究計劃 (文獻回顧可創造新知識而超出&quot;No original research&quot;政策)&lt;BR&gt;
以及&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;!--2) other Original research projects using research methods in addition to literature review&lt;BR&gt;--&gt;
2) 文獻回顧之外的其他原創研究方法 &lt;br&gt;
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can both generate new and previously unpublished knowledge, arguments, concepts, data, ideas, statements, or theories. If Wikiversity is going to allow such research projects, Wikiversity needs to invent and implement a new system which will &quot;which will deal with potential problems&quot; arising from original research.--&gt;
以上兩項都會創造全新及從未發表之知識、爭議、概念、資料、意念、陳述或者理論，假如 Wikiversity 准許此類計劃進行， Wikiversity 便需創造或實施相應的系統，去應付原創研究可能發生的問題
&lt;!--
===正式同行評審===
維基媒體基金會各計劃  traditionally rely on the citation of supporting verifiable and reliable sources as the key criteria for inclusion of information in project webpages. This traditional method of deciding on suitability of content is not applicable to original research. [[wikipedia:Peer review|Formal peer review]] is a process of subjecting new scholarly work or ideas to the scrutiny of others who are experts in the field. Wikiversity may be able to devise a peer review system that can function to assure that original research within Wikiversity meets high standards of scholarship.

==亦見==
*[[Wikiversity:Research]] - Source documents concerning research within Wikiversity
*[[Wikiversity:Secondary research/En|Secondary research]] - research into a topic using the method of literature review
*[[Wikiversity:Scope of research/En|Scope of research]] - should Wikiversity allow all types of research, including original research?
*[[Wikiversity:Research guidelines/En|Research guidelines]] - what rules are needed to assure that only high quality, scholarly research activities take place?
--&gt;

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      <comment>/* 建議中的系統 */</comment>
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'''維基學院 Beta''' 是一個協調維基學院在各語言的項目之總體平臺. 為了得益於其眾多參與者之貢獻 (非單英文用戶), Beta 必需設立一有效的多語言討論系統.

== 現有的系統 ==

&quot;多語言&quot;常常只是一個單程概念: 首先有一英文原文, 然後其他人翻譯原文成各語言. 這個系統主要缺點是 非英語用戶無法參與討論; 他們只能被動地讀譯文. 

由於在 Beta 上談論之問題關係每一語言之維基學院, 來自各項目的參與者必需能發表他們的意見。

== 建議中的系統 ==

''歡迎在對話頁討論此建議.''

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[[Image:Discussion1.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''1''' -開始一次新討論的參與者 在協調主頁(''coordination motherpage'')上寫一篇摘要並加上一枚鏈接。]]
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[[Image:Discussion2.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''2''' - 譯者翻譯該摘要成其他語言, 並在協調頁加上一枚適當鏈接。]]
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[[Image:Discussion3.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''3''' - 在各語言的討論頁, 眾人發表意見及發問。他們在其語言的子頁寫一短段總結, 加上一新編號(''ID number''), 並在協調本頁(''motherpage'')加上新編號和他們摘要的鏈接。]]
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[[Image:Discussion4.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''4''' - 譯者經常檢查協調頁, 在其語言的子頁 以同一編號反影 新摘要, 並加上協調本頁鏈接.]]
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[[Image:Discussion5.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''5''' - 討論繼續。 為每一新摘要配與一新編號, 以助在協調頁及眾語言子頁辨認。]]
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=== 如何令此系統有效運作  ===
* '''越短越好'''. 簡潔是有效多語言討論的關鍵。 長段多不會被翻譯, 亦不會在其它語言頁反影, 其中見解,評論與問題不會得到任何注意。
* '''宣佈:''' 當一討論開始, , 參加者應在[[Wikiversity:Announcements/Zh]]宣佈.
* '''段落編號:'''為各段落編號以便辨認:  首段總結編號是# 1, 餘類推.  因此參與者在其語言頁加新段之前 必須檢查其它語言頁 以避免數字衝突。

=== 此系統的優點 ===
* 大家能參與討論。
* 討論要簡要和集中。
* 更可能達到所有參加者(無論語言)之間共識。

=== 此系統的缺點 ===
* 此系統需要足夠譯者及依賴其效率。

== 翻譯 ==
若您能熟練運用超過一種語言, 請在譯者名單'''[[Wikiversity:Translation]]'''上加上您的名.

== 參見==
* [[Wikiversity:Language select/Zh]]


&lt;!--== Internal Links ==
* [[Meta:Babel templates|Language skill templates]] (Babel templates): you can indicate your linguistic skills on your user page.

* Interlanguage links on [[Meta:Interlanguage links|Meta]] and [[w:en:Wikipedia:Interlanguage links|en:Wikipedia]], [[Talk:Interwiki bot]] (updater of links) 
* Summary of the various-language Wikipedias:  '''[[Wikipedia language overviews]]''' (needs contribution!) | [[Complete list of wikimedia projects]]

* Multilingual coordination: [[Interlingual coordination]]([[Interlingual_coordination#Links_relevant_to_coordination|links]]) | [[w:en:Wikipedia:Multilingual coordination|en:Multiling Coordination]] (issues and list of WPs), [[w:en:Wikipedia:Local Embassy|Local Embassies]] for helping visitors get used to your local WP
* Multilingual style: [[Thoughts_on_Multilingualism]] (essay by Jmabel (ca. 12/2003) on  naming objects, pages, people originally from other langs). 
* [[Meta:Conventions for multilingualism]]

* Translation: [[w:en:Wikipedia:Translation into English|...into English]] - fab project (by Jmabel) to request/fill transl requests (also [[de:Wikipedia:Übersetzungen|...into German]], [[fr:Wikipédia:Traductions en cours|...into French]], [[ja:Wikipedia:翻訳依頼]], [[ro:Wikipedia:Articole de tradus|...into Romanian]], [[zh-cn:Wikipedia:待翻译文章|...into Simplified Chinese]], and [[zh:Wikipedia:待翻譯文章|...into Traditional Chinese]]), and [[w:en:Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English|en:Pages needing translation]] - garbled pages on en: needing to be salvaged.
** Tools: [[w:en:Wikipedia:Language recognition chart|Lang recognition chart]] for identifying unfamiliar charactersets.
** Translation Group in [http://wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikiversity Wikiversity]: &amp;nbsp;[http://wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikiversidad:Área_de_Traducción Español] | [http://wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikiversity%3ATranslation_practice_course English]--&gt;


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維基學院是維基媒體基金會的一項新計劃. 維基學院致力以維基技術支援網上學習.

見: 英文維基學院之[http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:About 介紹] 

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'''''維基學院為一創造與應用自由教材與學習活動之所.''''' 其首要重點(''priorities'')與目標為:

*為所有年齡組、為所有語言 創造與維持一系列內容自由、多語文之教材與資源;
*主持學術與學習計劃, 以及支援這些材料的社群
*輔助與發展現有的維基計劃 (例如一項為維基百科文章尋找更佳源資料之計劃)

在維基學院履行其使命時, 維基學者亦可創始和發展其他任務和目標, 以支援學習與創作新教材.  尤其是, 在維基學院 beta 階段, 吾人將開發有關指引, 以助主持與鼓勵一些部分依據維基學院及其他維基計劃中現有資源之''研究''.

==源==
*[http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Approved_Wikiversity_project_proposal Approved Wikiversity project proposal]

==參見==
*[[Wikiversity:Research]]

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;何謂維基學院?
:維基學院為一新維基媒體計劃&lt;ref&gt;Board resolution: [[wikimedia:Resolution Wikiversity]]&lt;/ref&gt;,  探索以維基支援網上學習之道. 在首六個月, 此計劃將處 beta 階段.  &lt;ref&gt;Anthere's mail about Wikiversity: http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2006-August/009074.html&lt;/ref&gt;.


;何謂維基學院 Beta?
:簡言之, Wikiversity Beta 既是 Wikiversity 之元維基, 亦是新 Wikiversity計劃之孵養器.
:Wikiversity Beta 協調各語言 Wikiversity 計劃, 策劃 Wikiversity 的使命,撰寫一般指導方針(例如,原始研究方針), 並給予新 Wikiversity 計劃發展之地。 


;眾多語言共存於 Beta 不會太亂嗎?
:Wikiversity Beta 銳意吸取不同人士的意見和主張，而不僅限於英語使用者，以務求得到最佳的成果。跨語言討論不單單是為了共存，而且含互助關係， [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/Zh|跨語言討論系統]]的概念可令非英語用者亦能參與討論， Beta 並且用了''[[Wikiversity:Language select/En|語言選擇]]'' 功能發展，這功能可讓用家在一些多語言的頁面上選擇只看到自己的語言。


; 至於已有其獨立子域名的維基學院計劃-
:Those [[Wikiversity:Separate projects|separate projects]] are growing their way. However, their participants are strongly encouraged to take part into discussions about general guidelines that will apply to all Wikiversity projects. Moreover, they are encouraged to post [[Wikiversity:Reports/En|reports]] about their projects to let everybody know about how it grows.


;以後如何?
:現在我們需要人參與維基學院 Beta 中的討論. People from existing separate projects and people willing to contribute to a future separate project should join the discussions and work together. People who do not speak English are encouraged to take part in discussions but we also need volunteer translators to translate the talk summaries.


;這個跨語系統根本行不通, 因需要太多翻譯者。
:如果大家能認真總結討論，不但有助於專注在改善問題上，而且無須花太多時間做翻譯。Beta 設立十日，已有五種語言於主頁上。 
:無論如何，這系統是一個構想，若所有人都說英語，不需要做任何翻譯那當然很好，即使最後系統還是行不通, 我們至少也嘗試過。


;作為一協調計劃, 以單一語言討論更為實際.
:Of course it would be more practical; the question is: should we manage Beta the way that is easier for us English speakers or should we manage it the way everybody can take part in discussions about guidelines that will apply to all projects?


;維基學院 Beta 之座右銘?
:越簡短越好，如果你希望自己的想法能讓其他不同語言的人能明白，最好把你的想法寫得精簡一點。 


;Meta以外, 維基學院 Beta 提供什麼 ?
:


;何必維基學院 Beta? 何不使用維基媒體孵養器? 
:


;至於目前在 Wikibooks 之維基學院計劃, 包括非英文之維基學院-
:


;What is the sense behind splitting Wikiversity up into various separated language Wikies? Would it not be better to create courses and research reports in a multilingual environment such as Beta and have them translated in as many langages as translators see fit when new pages and documents become available?
:


== 備註與參考 ==

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* '''[[Help:FAQ/Zh]]''' - ''常見問題解答''
* '''[[Wikiversity:Communication/Zh]]''' - ''維基學者溝通方法''
* '''[[Wikiversity:Babel]]''' - ''若您感到迷失, 可在哪裡問問題''
* '''[[Help:How to start a new discussion]]''' - '''如何開始一場新討論'''


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      <text xml:space="preserve">== Welcome ==

Hello and welcome to Wikiversity beta! Thanks for your translations. I hope you will also take part in current discussions about research guidelines.

A little tip: to create a redirect page, you don't need to move and remove a page. Just write : &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;#REDIRECT [[the page where you want the current page to redirect to]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;.

Last thing: redirects are from the titles in foreign language to the &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;Page/Zh&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt; subpage (so as to know where all pages are).

Thanks and ask me if you have any questions! [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 10:56, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

:[[Wikiversity:Scope of research]] have been started and [[Wikiversity:Research guidelines]] is waiting for a good will :) [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 11:13, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

== wikiversity的翻译 ==

感谢你参与测试网站中文版的建设，希望你能继续努力，为成功设立中文wikiversity而努力。
当前wikiversity尚未有正式的中文译名。我先前暂时译作“维基大学”，取自英文的“university”在中文中译作“大学”之义，你译作“维基学院”也不错，但正式的名称可通过中文维基社群投票确定，我准备在中文维基百科设立wikiversity的译名投票，提名几个候选译名，然后根据大家的投票和讨论确定最终译名。不知你的看法如何？可在对话页面和我讨论。谢谢！--[[User:Vipuser|Vipuser]][[User talk:Vipuser|（Talk）]] 16:14, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

== Research guidelines ==

Hello. I am not the one who has written this text, so you should ask [[User:Xenon|Xenon]]. By the way, I see you have started translating [[Wikiversity talk:Research guidelines/Zh]]. It's not necessary to translate the whole page. The [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism|multilingualism system]] works by translating ''summaries'' of the discussions, so as to avoid translating the whole pages. [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 08:46, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

:''&quot;Research projects within Wikiversity&quot;'' refers to research conducted by an editor and posted (published) on Wikiversity. Perhaps I'm using the wrong terms, but thats why it's up for discussion. In my experience on the web, anything publically accessible is classed as published, not neccessarily those sent through a book publisher or anything like that. It's a good way to work imo, since it prevents me from posting content I wouldn't want to be published. Perhaps that is too restrictive for Wikiversity, but it is a looser and less permenant sense than book publishing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:''&quot;All research must be ethical&quot;'' - perhaps that should read ''&quot;do not publish unethical research&quot;'' - we can't stop people being unethical, but these are research guidelines, and we're making recommendations. The same goes for ''&quot;you should be enthusiastic&quot;'' - we can't force it but it makes research better. I'm not saying ''&quot;be enthusiastic or go away&quot;'', in context I'm saying ''&quot;you should research to obtain results, and you should want to know what those results are, but you shouldn't change them&quot;''. There is no point in researching something you aren't enthusiastic about, and there's also no point in gathering data if you're going to change what that data says. That makes it invalid, which is both non-valuable to readers and even perhaps misleading.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:I'm not telling people what to do, I'm advising people what should and should not be 'published' on Wikiversity, with regards to research. But more importantly, for those people who wish to conduct research with the help of the other editors on Wikiversity (by allowing it to be edited), I'm briefly advising them how to conduct it and what not to do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Hope that clears some of that up, but by all means edit/discuss - [[User:Xenon|Xenon]] 12:02, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Okay, that makes sense. I suppose the process I'm thinking of is posting your hypothesis, design and initial results on a page, other people discussing them on the discussion tab and making edits where appropriate - eventually resulting in an impartial analysis of the results and evaluation of the procedure.

That process differs greatly from standard research methods, where a small group of people will produce it and then publish it. Anybody else has to then either conduct follow up research or merely comment on the existing research. This Wikiversity procedure lets a lot more people, with a lot of different viewpoints, get involved - hopefully this produces a better, well rounded, NPOV study/ By NPOV I mean open to all possibilities, although POVs will show up in the analysis/evaluation. Anybody can add to the research and contribute, as well as discussing it - although perhaps the results should be kept separate and protected (eg /results).

With ethics, I'm merely suggesting we don't allow very unethical studies - things like how much current it needs to kill a guinea pig, or how people react if you burn down their house. In the most part it's common sense, but I still think there needs to be guidelines on what is not appropriate.

Results manipulation is separate to maintaining an ethical procedure. If people change the results to suit their POV, to back up what they think or simply to prove themselves right, that defies the entire notion of conducting research - they might as well just make it up completely. The research guidelines should outline that the raw data should not be edited, although any user is free to add their own interpretation and analysis of the results.

I'm not saying people should be enthusiastic, I'm saying they should do the research to get the results and see what they are, rather than doing it to prove a point and ending up manipulating the results when you aren't happy with them. &lt;u&gt;Data is gathered to find out the answers to questions&lt;/u&gt;, so there is no point making it up based on what you think or feel. Yes, most researchers set out to see if a theory is correct (or not), or simply to find out the answers to questions, but there is no point in sharing results that are false.

As for publication, I suppose as long as it's on Wikiversity it's open to editing - there'll never be a definitive end point. That is the great thing of it being a Wiki - anybody can contribute even months after the results have been collected. Anybody is free to suggest their own POV and to condone or criticise the procedure.

As an overview, the basic guidelines would be:
*No results manipulation at any time
*No unethical procedures or methods
*Anybody can edit analysis/evaluation

This provides a healthy environment for sharing data and ideas and ending up with some great research, with lots of POVs, fit for book publication.

I'm enjoying this discussion - [[User:Xenon|Xenon]] 14:44, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

:Absolutely, objectivity is exactly what I meant. As for ethics, I'm a psychology student, and I do use ethics in the (subjective) sense of morals and right/wrong etc. In fact, whenever I heard the word 'ethical' I instantly thing of [[wikipedia:Milgram experiment|Stanley Milgram]]. If results manipulation comes under that heading, it makes things simpler. We've boiled the research guidelines down to two main principles: ethics and objectivity. And yes, the discussion page should be completely free - I see no point in restricting people there, so long as they remain ontopic etc. - [[User:Xenon|Xenon]] 18:56, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

== research cycle ==

&quot;Can you elaborate on what a research cycle involve?&quot; &lt;-- I hope it is clear that I just made up the term &quot;research cycle&quot; in order to make a point about how objectivity is produced starting with subjective observations/ideas/claims. The point to be made is that the &quot;raw material&quot; of research involves subjective accounts of reality. The &quot;raw material&quot; is evaluated by others. Only through a &quot;cycle&quot; of subjecting the ideas of individuals to evaluation/critique by others do we move towards objectivity. In general, no individual research result carries much weight until it is repeatedly confirmed by others.

&quot;many different modes of communications.....they should be subjected to different standards.&quot; &lt;-- I agree that they are, often due to practical considerations. Research results can be used in many different ways. Sometimes they are used rather informally as a way to stimulate enthusiasm for a topic. In such contexts, it is common for people to say, &quot;preliminary results suggest....&quot; and anyone listening knows to not put too much trust in the results. At other times, research results influence decisions involving millions of lives and billions of dollars....under those conditions people usually want a high degree of care to be taken in subjecting the research results to careful analysis by many experts. In such situations, information qualified with &quot;preliminary results suggest....&quot; does not carry mush weight.

&quot;So far the discussions on beta focus on the formal report phase; it seems to me that everything else has been assumed to be discussion and completely free. But there are problems: for example, a lecture course does not fit in either of the two categories.&quot; &lt;-- It is not unusual for a lecture to mention new or disputed research. There is an important difference between discussion of such research and using a lecture to claim that new or disputed research proves something controversial. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 17:36, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
:&quot;invite established schlars to participate in the review process?&quot; &lt;-- We need to work on [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity_outreach outreach] efforts. I think Wikiversity might need a speical type of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_functionaries functionary] that would take the lead for for outreach and [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Review_board peer review]. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 01:19, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

== research scope and guidelines ==

&quot;Is the page 'wikiversity:scope of research' the discussion page for 'wikiversity:research guidelines'?&quot; &lt;-- Not really; &quot;scope&quot; means which types of research and topics for research should be allowed. So far, nobody had suggested that Wikiversity exclude specific types of research or topics for research. We now have to try to define some guideline/policies that will make sure that Wikiversity research activities are high quality. One of the research policies for Wikiversity might be a policy about the allowed scope of reasearch, but if all research is allowed, that would be a small policy!. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 23:15, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

== Namespace ==

Hi. I would say... where you want :) Beta is a kind of meta-wiki, so you can create your page under the name you want, in the namespace you want. I have created [[Wikiversité]] in the main namespace.

About your sentence, yes, it's perfect ! [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 21:02, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

== Hello ==

我必須說我對中文校名的看法和你不同，但很高興看到有中文用戶在這裡積極籌措中文版的wikiversity。我認為中文維基人數量要支撐一個像樣的百科都嫌困難了，會有興趣定期參與大學研討班的恐怕更是稀少，所以我認為朝向研究導向的大學是唯一可能的途徑。在大學成立後我應該能運作人文學院的各學科，但我不指望會有幾個學生參與了。如果有任何需要協助的地方請儘管聯絡我。[[User:Lecter|Lecter]] [[User_talk:Lecter|Talk]] 21:01, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

== Dutch Wikiversity ==
I will translate the English texts into Dutch. I have a problem with the name. Wikiversiteit doesn't sound very good to my taste. I prefer to give the Dutch Wikiversity the English name (nederlandstalige Wikiversity instead of nederlandstalige Wikiversiteit).--[[User:Daanschr|Daanschr]] 09:21, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

I messed up with the disambiguation to the Dutch Wikiversity page on Multilingualism. First i called it tweetaligheid and then meertaligheid. I didn't managed to be able to change what i did wrong.--[[User:Daanschr|Daanschr]] 13:45, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

OK, sorry for the trouble.--[[User:Daanschr|Daanschr]] 08:25, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

== 计算机系 ==

我看过英文版，发现“计算机系”属于工程学，但同时下面又写着“与数学有密切联系”，所以我把计算机系放进工学院，并且在数学院创立相关联接。我想这比较符合英文版吧。--[[User:Aleksejevski|&lt;font color=&quot;blue&quot;&gt;&lt;big&gt;Алексеевски&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]]  [[User_talk:Aleksejevski|&lt;sup&gt;Talk to me&lt;/sup&gt;]] 09:50, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

== Wikiversity:Approved Wikiversity project proposal/Fr ==

Hello,
I just notice that you have paste the project proposal. I also have seen that you visited the french wikiversity, and have seen our current translational work (on this proposal in french [http://fr.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversité:Projet_approuvé]). I have two questions therefore
* Should we put the translation of the proposal on beta or on the wikiversity of the dedicated language ?
* a reason why I didn't began the translation on beta was that we cannot import the text from meta. You juste made a copy/aste instead, but that way we loose history, and it seems to be a license problem. Maybe you can ask Guillom.

[[User:JmG|JmG]] 14:43, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

== Wikiversity:Approved Wikiversity project proposal/De ==
Hi Hillgentleman, can you look [[User_talk:Erkan_Yilmaz#Anerkanntes_Wikiversity_Projektvorschlag.3F|here]] please? ----[[User:Erkan_Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] ([http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Erkan_Yilmaz/Bewertung &lt;small&gt;evaluate me!&lt;/small&gt;], [[User_talk:Erkan_Yilmaz|&lt;small&gt;discussion&lt;/small&gt;]]) 00:58, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
:Ok, no worries, I got the prob solved. ----[[User:Erkan_Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] ([http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Erkan_Yilmaz/Bewertung &lt;small&gt;evaluate me!&lt;/small&gt;], [[User_talk:Erkan_Yilmaz|&lt;small&gt;discussion&lt;/small&gt;]]) 01:13, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
::you got a message on my page :-) ----[[User:Erkan_Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] ([http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Erkan_Yilmaz/Bewertung &lt;small&gt;evaluate me!&lt;/small&gt;], [[User_talk:Erkan_Yilmaz|&lt;small&gt;discussion&lt;/small&gt;]]) 02:10, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Hello Hillgentleman, I am finished. Next question I have in mind is: for the following templates also different language-variations could be created: [[Template:Wikiversity]], [[Template:WikiversityUsers]]. 
:::BTW: do not forget to evaluate me :-) ----[[User:Erkan_Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] ([http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Erkan_Yilmaz/Bewertung &lt;small&gt;evaluate me!&lt;/small&gt;], [[User_talk:Erkan_Yilmaz|&lt;small&gt;discussion&lt;/small&gt;]]) 12:58, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
::::Hello Hillgentleman, in my signature you see the link titled &quot;evaluate me!&quot;. If you click on it, then you go to a page, where you can say something nice or bad also about me. This is an approach model being discussed at German wikipedia at the moment, but I am happy also, about other wiki members, sharing their view about me, even if their voices do not count. Thank you in advance :-) 

::::About the two templates, do you have any idea how to adapt these to German? I mean I could translate and make a new template called &quot;.../De&quot;, but perhaps there is a more elegant way for this? ----[[User:Erkan_Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] ([http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Erkan_Yilmaz/Bewertung &lt;small&gt;evaluate me!&lt;/small&gt;], [[User_talk:Erkan_Yilmaz|&lt;small&gt;discussion&lt;/small&gt;]]) 09:29, 28 December 2006 (UTC)


==[[Wikiversity:Scope/De]] translated==
guess what, Wikiversity has another translated article :-) ----[[User:Erkan_Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] ([http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Erkan_Yilmaz/Bewertung &lt;small&gt;evaluate me!&lt;/small&gt;], [[User_talk:Erkan_Yilmaz|&lt;small&gt;discussion&lt;/small&gt;]]) 19:45, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

== re-學習計劃 ==

正打算開發[[School:法學|法學系]], 打算在版權法之源流以及現代發展大造文章,另外[[School:宗敎|宗教系]]和[[School:美術設計|美術設計系]]、[[School:政治學|政治學系]]亦已有開發計畫, 同時亦在研究開發流行文化相關之學系, 但由於近日 internet 故障影響, 暫時不會有大動作。
至於&quot;大學&quot;一詞我已說明大學是有其所指, 常強調&quot;自由&quot;之維基媒體若以&quot;大學&quot;自稱, 似太俗氣 - [[User:Hardys|Hardys]] 08:41, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

== 政治系之構想 ==
在開學計劃內己把香港政制研究列入政治系項目內，但我剛剛突然間有一個構想，若研究只是紙上談兵，那就不論你叫大學也好叫學院也好都無所謂，正如我在電影學院祈望會實際拍一套電影出來，証明 wikiversity 並非一個紙上談兵的虛擬空間，所以我突發奇想，'''政治系進行的香港政制研究，最後成果是可以實際推薦給政府落實推行'''，你會認為這構想是&quot;不設實際&quot;、&quot;空想&quot;，還是 &quot;why not&quot; ? - [[User:Hardys|Hardys]] 08:23, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

香港政制研究也是建基於現有政制之上所進行的二手研究項目, 由分析演變成評論，由評論再演變成建議是常有之事，況且亦未必成事，但至小有一個研究目的，正如學英文需要有鬼佬實踐才能掌握。我覺得大學/學院應有改善社會之責任，若研究只流於空談，那讀聖賢書所學為何？不知你是否同意？不過目前問題是參與者太小，無法從實踐中理解  wikiversity 之運作，我走去英文版看，大都是沒有內容之 &quot;Under Construction This Month&quot;，我們能否先找些比較簡單的題材來展開學習計劃呢？- [[User:Hardys|Hardys]] 12:51, 1 January 2007 (UTC)</text>
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維基學院社群需要決定出政策和指引 以定義在維基學院之內容許之研究活動. 維基學院應否容許所有類型研究? 或應只容許某些研究?

==研究之類型==
#集中於文獻回顧, 而不產生新知識、資料或理論的研究計劃。此等項目符合維基媒體基金會的一般規則 [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/NPOV NPOV] 及[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_original_research NOR]。
#集中於文獻回顧, 而且產生(未正式發表的)新知識的文獻回顧。 Such projects would be excluded from the conventional Wikimedia Foundation NPOV and NOR rules.
#research projects that use research methods in addition to literature review and which produce results that have not been previously published by a reliable source. For example, a research project of this type might involve design of a questionnaire and the collection of data from wiki participants ([http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Bloom_clock_project another example]).
#collaborative research projects involving researchers at scholarly institutions outside of Wikiversity. A research project of this type might involve data collected by an [[w:Great Observatories program|observatory]] and analysis of the data by Wikiversity participants ([http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Astronomy_Project example]).

==討論總結==
See: [[Wikiversity:Scope of research/Zh]]
===1 英文總結 ===
Slightly shortened version of the [[#Types of research|first section]] of this page.

===2 德文 ===
*指出文學回顧不是真正地研究。
*建議各語言的維基學院選擇它自己的研究方法, 而非所有維基學院共用一套研究政策。

===3 英文 ===
*Pointed to [[Wikiversity:Research/En]] for instructions from the Board of Trustees about how the entire Wikiversity community needs to develop a unified research policy.
*Stressed the distinction between forms of literature review as practiced at Wikipedia under the policy of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wp:nor No Original Research] and other forms of research that would not be possible if Wikiversity also adopted the No Original Research policy.

===4 德文 ===
*Discussion at [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity_translations/7_September_IRC IRC #wikiversity-en] came to the conclusion that there are two research categories:  &quot;comparative research&quot;  and (single-focus?)/&quot;active research&quot;
**I suggest the term ''advanced research'', d'apres ''Institute for Advanced Study''.  The word ''advanced'' invites the connection ''advancing''.--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 11:20, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

=== 5 德文 ===
*德文中&quot;原始研究&quot; 和 &quot;次生研究&quot; 各為 ''empirische Forschung''及 ''Literaturstudium und Dokumentation'' (即 ''empirical Research'' 及 ''Literature study and Documentation'').
**The term ''empirical'' does not quite include such things as ''logical deductions''.--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 11:21, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

*建議如果維基學院採取''禁止原始研究''之政策, 則其名應被改為 '''維基書院'''.

==新討論==
If we adopt the German suggestion (see [[#2 German]]) that each Wikiversity research project be allowed to adopt its own optimal research methods then '''all types''' of original research methods would be allowed at Wikiversity. We would then need to define  Wikiversity policies that will protect Wikiversity from all of the potential problems that would arise from allowing original research in a Wikimedia Foundation project. In particular, how do we prevent cranks from adding bogus research to Wikiversity and, in general, how does the Wikiversity community assure high-quality research? Does Wikiversity need a [[Wikiversity:Original research/En#Formal peer review|formal peer review system]] for original research? --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 11:49, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

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But what is bogus research? Who decides? Also, Germany has different classifications in the kinds of research - things like &quot;Grundlagenforschung&quot;, basic research that doesn't have to pay for itself and &quot;angewandte Forschung&quot;, applied research which often is just a name for research done for a company that is paying handsomely for a professor to say what they want.

Literature surveys can very well be research, as can putting together thoughts on any particular subject. For example, next year I am co-chairing a conference on computing and soceity. We want to have people put position papers in a wiki, change them if necessary before the conference, take notes during the conference, just in general produce a pile of interlinked text, then define a selection of pages and an order on the pages and automatically produce a book and a pdf to be offered for sale and for free online. That would be the production of knowledge, i.e. collecting ideas on topic X in one place.
We are installing our own version of MediaWiki because I am a bit leery of using the Wikiversity for this, but I do believe that this would be a great place to do this kind of research. --[[User:WiseWoman|WiseWoman]] 20:52, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

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in 2 -- german, I'm not clear on what is meant by literature &quot;reviews.&quot; There's a tremendous amount of work done in what used to be callled Literaturwissenschaft in the German-speaking countries, and so I can't imagine that this discussion is saying that literary scholarship isn't scholarship... can this be clarified?  --[[User:70.32.180.118|70.32.180.118]] 01:02, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
:Is &quot;Literature science&quot; a good translation of &quot;Literaturwissenschaft&quot;? What do you think about moving ahead with an attempt to figure out new policy for how Wikiversity could be open to essentially all types of research activities? I do not see that anyone has yet suggested that Wikiversity should prevent any particular type of research. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 03:15, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

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&quot;But what is bogus research? Who decides?&quot; &lt;-- A traditional method to decide on the quality of research is to make use of a peer review system. Every wiki automatically employs an informal type of peer review. However, the informal Wikimedia peer review process relies on citation of published sources. This traditional Wikimedia peer review process does not work for original research. I think peer review of research should involve a &quot;formal&quot; peer review system because the informal method that is typical of wiki-based peer review is not adequate for dealing with original research. In my opinion, devising a system for formal peer review of original research is what we need to do if we expect the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees to ever allow original research at Wikiversity. Also, I think we do need to think carefully about different types of research. The use of some research methods is simply not possible for Wikiversity participants. We should identify the types of research activities that make sense for Wikiversity. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 21:20, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

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'''Research versus Publishing'''-- Research and publishing are two different processes. ''Research'' is acquiring knowledge in any way one can find. ''Publishing'' is communicating the new knowledge to the public. I discuss them seperately.

* Research -- I do not see much harm in total freedom, apart from wasting computer memory. Even if a completely bogus group writes up some bogus material, they still need to pass the test of publishing.
* Publishing -- In the beginning, scholars in the wikiversity should publish their results in established scholarly journals. That establishes the credibility of wikiversity. After a long time - probably years - the scholars in wikiversity can have enough credibility to establish their own journals or pre-print archives or any publishing device.
o If some established scholars join the wikiversity and become active, they can accelerate the above process.
--Hillgentleman 19:10, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

==參見==
*[[Wikiversity:Research/Zh|Research]] - Source documents concerning research within Wikiversity
*[[Wikiversity:Secondary research/Zh|Secondary research]] - research into a topic using the method of literature review
*[[Wikiversity:Original research/Zh|Original research]] - unpublished research into a topic using literature review and/or methods in addition to literature review
*[http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity_translations Wikiversity translations] - project to support translations of policy discussions.
*[[Wikiversity:Research guidelines|Research guidelines]] - Main page; what rules are needed to assure that only high quality, scholarly research activities take place?
*[[Wikiversity:Research guidelines/Zh|Research guidelines]] - English language page; Wikiversity policy to replace [[w:Wikipedia:No original research|No original research]] (NOR).

==Reading==
*[http://it.stlawu.edu/~tbudd/litrev.html The Literature Review] by Dr. Thomas Budd
*[http://www.indiana.edu/~cheminfo/C471/471pubproc.html Primary, Secondary, and Tertiary Sources] by Gary Wiggins
*[http://ec.hku.hk/acadgrammar/report/resProc/research.htm Primary and Secondary research] - in the context of social science research
*[http://www.nature.com/nature/webmatters/invisible/invisible.html The invisible hand of peer review] by Steven Harnad
*[http://bjp.rcpsych.org/cgi/content/abstract/176/1/47 Open peer review: a randomised controlled trial] by Elizabeth Walsh, et al
*[http://academia.wikia.com/wiki/Wiki_Journal Wiki Journal] - Peer-reviewed publishing in a wiki environment.
*[[w:Original research|Original research]] - article at Wikipedia
*[[:en:Wikiversity:Review board|Review board]] - ideas for formal peer review at the English language Wikiversity.

==Talk page?==
Um, is this the talk page or an article?--[[User:Rayc|Rayc]] 13:48, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
:This &quot;talk page&quot; is part of a multlingual discussion. We do the English language discussion on this page and we are supposed to post summaries of the discussions from this page on the [[Wikiversity:Scope of research/En|main English page]]. We can create additional pages to facilitate our discussions if needed. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 16:55, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
::Ok, it just looked like this had been pasted over with a non-talk page, since none of the stuff is signed.--[[User:Rayc|Rayc]] 05:16, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
:::&quot;pasted over with a non-talk page&quot; &lt;-- yes, that was the origin of this page. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 19:01, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
[[Category:Research]]

== Academic journal entries? ==

Hello. A while back I founded a wikia for the purpose of writing academic journals (http://academia.wikia.com). My impression is that merging that project with this one would benefit both by expanding the scope of the Wikiversity project and generating significantly more attention to the wiki-based academic journals. It would also help to ensure that original research developed on Wikiversity would undergo a thorough peer-review process before being validated. I'm interested in people's opinions regarding such a proposal. [[User:Owen|Owen]] 19:18, 12 September 2006 (UTC)</text>
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    <title>Wikiversity:研究範圍</title>
    <id>1932</id>
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      <timestamp>2006-10-11T11:45:44Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Hillgentleman</username>
        <id>30</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>[[Wikiversity:研究範圍]] moved to [[Wikiversity:Scope of research/Zh]]</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">#REDIRECT [[Wikiversity:Scope of research/Zh]]</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Wikiversity talk:研究範圍</title>
    <id>1934</id>
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      <timestamp>2006-10-11T11:53:18Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Hillgentleman</username>
        <id>30</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>[[Wikiversity talk:研究範圍]] moved to [[Wikiversity talk:Scope of research/Zh]]</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">#REDIRECT [[Wikiversity talk:Scope of research/Zh]]</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Wikiversity talk:Original research/Zh</title>
    <id>1935</id>
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      <id>3434</id>
      <timestamp>2006-10-12T07:09:27Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Hillgentleman</username>
        <id>30</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">教育是不僅關於現有的知識。教育機構的當中一個最重要的作用通過從世代到世代' ' 文化&quot;研究和方法為新知識博學persuit 。最佳的方式的當中一個使學生學會將變得介入舉辦的研究計劃。給它針對教育的使命, 它是自然為Wikiversity 與所有類型研究有關自己。期限&quot;原始的研究&quot; 有一個特別意思在Wikimedia 基礎項目之內。在Wikimedia 基礎項目&quot;原始的研究之內&quot; 被使用提到由一個可靠的來源早先未出版的材料被安置在文章裡由wiki 編輯。它包括未出版的材料, 例如, 論據, 概念, 資料, 想法, 聲明、或理論、或看上去推進一個位置- 或, 在Wikipedia 的共同創立者Jimbo 威爾士的詞, 會共計&quot;新穎的記敘文或歷史解釋&quot; 出版材料的任一新分析或綜合([ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research 來源]) 。 給: 1) Wikimedia 基礎的過去位置談到原始的研究([ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wp:nor 沒有原始的研究]) 並且2) 研究的根本角色在教育Wikiversity 必須繪製新套政策圖表並且指南使怎樣合併原始的研究活動在Wikimedia 基礎之內射出。 [ http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Approved_Wikiversity_project_proposal 批准的Wikiversity 項目申請] 包括這段關於範圍Wikiversity 研究: * &quot;??????[[meta:Wikimedia 研究Network|?????]] ?????????[[meta:research|??]]?????????, ????[[meta:Wikimania|????(Wikimania)]]???(''procceedings' ') 。是否Wikiversity 曾經將主持原始的研究除次要研究之外是辯論主題(參見[ http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity_talk:Approved_Wikiversity_project_proposal 項目申請談話頁]) 原始的研究能雖則發生根據材料在Wikiversity (即材料在社會學提示勘測研究計劃) 。指南為什麼會是適當的研究將被開發在項目的beta 階段期間通過社區公眾輿論過程, 和將被回顧(由[ [ meta:Special 射出committee|Special 項目委員會] ]) 在六個月以後。有' ' 必要&quot;不會是' 認同' 研究增加來Wikiversity - 雖然將應付潛在的問題的某一類回顧過程需要建立。&quot; ==???????????== 1) 導致新知識和超出&quot;沒有原始的研究&quot; 政策範圍) 的次要研究計劃(文學回顧並且2) 其它原始的研究計劃運用研究方法除文學回顧之外可能引起新和早先未出版的知識、論據、概念、資料、想法、聲明, 或理論。如果Wikiversity 允許這樣研究計劃, Wikiversity 需要發明和實施將&quot;將應付潛在的問題&quot; 出現從原始的研究的一個新系統。 ===??????=== ?????????? 傳統上依靠支持的可核實和可靠的來源的引證作為關鍵標準為資訊包括在項目網頁。這個傳統方法決定內容的適合不是可適用的對原始的研究[ [ wikipedia:Peer review|Formal 同事評審] ] 是服從新博學工作或想法的過程對其他人察視是專長領域。Wikiversity 也許能構想可能起作用保證的同事評審系統原始的研究在Wikiversity 之內符合獎學金高標準。 ==??== * [ [ Wikiversity:Research ] ] - 源文件關於研究在Wikiversity 之內* [ [ Wikiversity:Secondary research/En|Secondary 研究] ] - 研究入一個題目運用文學回顧方法* [ [ 研究research/En|Scope Wikiversity:Scope ] ] - Wikiversity 應該允許所有類型研究, 包括原始的研究嗎? * [ [ Wikiversity:Research guidelines/En|Research 指南] ] - 什麼規則是需要的保證那唯一高質量, 博學研究活動發生? -- [ [ Category:Research ] ] [ [ Category:ZH ]</text>
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    <title>Wikiversity:Language select/Zh</title>
    <id>1936</id>
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      <timestamp>2006-11-20T08:54:41Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Hillgentleman</username>
        <id>30</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>/* Delimiting languages */</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">此頁待譯
{{Languages|Wikiversity:Language select}}

''詳情請見[[m:Meta:Language select|Meta:Language select]].''


'''[[m:Meta:Language select|語言選擇]]'''讓用戶在多語文頁中掩藏其他語言.  例如, 法文讀者在多語文頁中可選擇只看見法文字(雖然在西班牙文頁中他們仍會看見西班牙文字).

== 如何選擇語言 ==

* 如要選擇語言, 請在輸入箱鍵入其[[List of ISO 639-1 codes|ISO 639-1代碼]] (例如, 中文為&lt;code&gt;zh&lt;/code&gt; ), 然後按&lt;big&gt;➤&lt;/big&gt;.
* If you want to display all languages, type &lt;code&gt;mul&lt;/code&gt; or click on &lt;big&gt;⋙&lt;/big&gt;.

== 用法 ==
&lt;!--
=== 辨認多語文頁 ===
Pages that implement language selection include a notice using {{tl|multilingual}}.
--&gt;
=== Java 碼 ===
The JavaScript method is activated by default on Wikiversity Beta. You can disable it by adding the following line to [[Special:Mypage/monobook.js|your script file]]. &lt;pre&gt;ls_enable = false;&lt;/pre&gt;

You can see an example of the JavaScript in action below. If language selection is disabled, all of the text will be displayed.

&lt;div class=&quot;multilingual&quot;&gt;
{{ls|ca|Aquest text és en català.}}
{{ls|de|Dieser Text ist Deutsch.}}
{{ls|en|This text is English.}}
{{ls|fr|Ce texte est Français.}}
{{ls|pt|Este texto está em Português.}}
{{ls|sc|Custu testu est in Sardu.}}
{{ls|la|Haec nota Latine scriptus est.}}
{{ls|zh|这些文字是中文字。}}
&lt;/div&gt;

You can view the JavaScript code at [{{fullurl:MediaWiki:Monobook.js|action=render}} MediaWiki:Monobook.js].

== Delimiting languages ==

The template {{[[Template:ls|ls]]}} simplifies the implementation of language select. 

&lt;pre&gt;{{ls|zh|这些文字是中文字。}}
&lt;/pre&gt;


[[Category:Multilingualism]]
[[Category:ZH]]</text>
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    <title>Wikiversity:Announcements/Nl</title>
    <id>1937</id>
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      <timestamp>2006-11-19T18:27:41Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Sainte-Rose</username>
        <id>62</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>vote on meta, please traduce in your language</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;noinclude&gt;
{{Languages|Wikiversity:Announcements}}
''This page contains announcements about '''[[Main Page|Wikiversity Beta]]''' and '''[[Wikiversity:Separate projects|separate projects]]'''. See also Meta [[m:Goings-on|Goings-on]].''


;Available templates:{{tl|announce/talk}} · {{tl|announce/beta}} · {{tl|announce/local}}

;Syntax:&lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{Announce/talk|date|message}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;
&lt;/noinclude&gt;__NOTOC__ __NOEDITSECTION__
&lt;div class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;
==Aankondigingen==
&lt;!--- Announces ----------------------&gt;
====November 2006====
{{announce/talk|18|[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiversity/logo Colour change nomination for the Wikiversity Logo on Meta]}}
====september 2006====
{{announce/beta|28| [[Wikiversity_talk:A_proposal_for_european_project|Een voorstel voor een Europees project]] voor Europeese Wikiversiteiten is voorgesteld geworden.}}
{{announce/beta|19| [[Wikiversity:A proposal of language learning policy|Een kladversie voor een beleid voor het leren van talen]] voor alle Wikiversiteiten is voorgesteld geworden.}}
{{announce/beta|7| [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiversity/logo Een stemming voor het Wikiversity-logo] is begonnen.}}
{{announce/beta|3| [[Wikiversity:Scope of research/Nl|Onderzoeksgebied]]; meertalige onderzoeksbeleid discussie is begonnen.}}
====augustus 2006====
{{announce/beta|29| [[Wikiversity:Language select/En|Taalselectiesysteem]] geïmplementeerd op Beta.}}
{{announce/beta|26| Babel-sjablonen beschikbaar, [[Wikiversity:Request custodian action|doe hier een aanvraag voor jouw taal indien er nog geen is]].}}
{{announce/talk|26|[[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/Nl|Meertalige discussies]]-systeem-voorstem.}}
{{announce/beta|24| '''[[Hoofdpagina|Beta Wikiversity]] gelanceerd.'''}}
{{announce/talk|23|[[m:Wikiversity/logo|Logo-ontwerp-wedstrijd]] voor Wikiversity is begonnen op Meta.}}
{{announce/talk|22|Help het [[m:Www.wikiversity.org template|www Wikiversity portaal]] ontwerpen.}}
{{announce/local|15| [[:en:Main Page|Engelstalige Wikiversiteit]] gelanceerd.}}
&lt;div style=&quot;text-align:center;&quot;&gt;{{edit|Wikiversity:Announcements/Nl}} · &lt;small&gt;[http://beta.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=Wikiversity:Announcements/En&amp;action=watch watch]&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;noinclude&gt;

[[Category:Wikiversity]]
[[Category:NL]]
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  <page>
    <title>Hoofdpagina/Top</title>
    <id>1938</id>
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      <timestamp>2006-10-15T10:29:45Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <ip>84.194.195.141</ip>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;background-color: #fcfcfc; margin: 0; border: 1px solid #DEDED3; padding: 7px 7px 0px 7px;  -moz-border-radius:5px&quot;&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
	&lt;center&gt;'''&lt;font color=&quot;#0000CC&quot; size=&quot;3&quot; face=&quot;Lucida Sans&quot;&gt;Welkom op Wikiversity beta&lt;/font&gt;'''&lt;/center&gt;
&lt;center&gt;{{main page}}&lt;/center&gt;
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    <title>Hoofdpagina</title>
    <id>1939</id>
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      <contributor>
        <username>Guillom</username>
        <id>4</id>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <comment>{{Main page interwikis}}</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">{{:Hoofdpagina/Top}}


{{Frame|Wikiversity:Announcements/Nl}}__NOTOC__

==[[Help:FAQ/Nl|Wat is Wikiversity beta?]]==

Dit project is een globaal platform dat tot doel heeft Wikiversity-projecten in verscheidene talen te coördineren. Deze '''[[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/Nl|meertalige coördinatie]]''' moet gericht zijn op de [[Wikiversity:Mission|missie]] van Wikiversity en de algemene [[#Richtlijnen|richtlijnen]] voor het specifieke gebied dat dit project wil bestijken (bv, in verband met oorspronkelijk onderzoek).

Wikiversity beta is ook een broeikast voor Wikiversiteiten in verschillende talen. Tot nog toe, zijn enkel de [[:en:Wikiversity:Main Page|Engels-]] en [[:de:Hauptseite|Duitstalige Wikiversiteiten]] [[Wikiversity:separate projects|aparte projecten]]. 

'''Als je een nieuwe Wikiversiteit wilt oprichten''', moet je tien deelnemers hebben die willen werken aan dit project. Wanneer je genoeg mensen gevonden hebt, kan je een [[m:Requests for new languages#Requests for Wikiversity Languages|aanvraag]] (op meta) doen voor een nieuw taaldomein op te zetten. In tussentijd, kan je de hoofdpagina toevoegen aan [[Template:Main page]].

Je kan best ook eens een kijkje nemen bij [[Help:FAQ/Nl|frequently asked questions]].

==Richtlijnen==
''Voel je vrij mee te helpen aan het ontwikkelen (en vertalen) van onze internationale richtlijnen die zullen gelden voor alle Wikiversiteiten.''
*[[Wikiversity:Scope of research/Nl|Onderzoeksgebied]] - moet de Wikiversiteit alle types van onderzoek toestaan, inclusief oorspronkelijk onderzoek?
*[[Wikiversity:Research guidelines/Nl|Onderzoeksrichtlijnen]] - welke regels zijn nodig om te verzekeren dat enkel wetenschappelijk onderzoeksactiveiten van hoge kwaliteit zullen plaatsvinden?

==In ontwikkeling==
*Ons meertalig portaal ontwikkelen (http://www.wikiversity.org) op [[m:Talk:Www.wikiversity.org template|Meta]]
*Deelnemen aan de huidige [[m:Wikiversity/logo|logo-ontwerp-wedstrijd]].

==[[Wikiversity:Separate projects|Afzonderlijke projecten]]==

* [[Wikiversity:Reports/En|Nieuws van de afzonderlijke projecten]]

==Zusterprojecten==

{{Sisterprojects/Nl}}
{{Main page interwikis}}</text>
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    <title>Template:Sisterprojects/Nl</title>
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      <contributor>
        <ip>84.194.195.141</ip>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;background-color: #FFFFFF; margin: 0; border: 1px solid #DEDED3; padding: 7px 7px 0px 7px;  -moz-border-radius:5px&quot;&gt;

{|width=&quot;100%&quot; align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;4&quot; style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot; class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;
| align=&quot;center&quot; | [[Image:Wikipedia-logo.png|35px|Wikipedia]]
| '''[http://nl.wikipedia.org Wikipedia]'''
| align=&quot;center&quot; | [[Image:Wiktionary-logo-en.png|51px|Wiktionary]]
| '''[http://nl.wiktionary.org Wiktionary]'''
| align=&quot;center&quot; | [[Image:Wikiquote-logo.png|40px|Wikiquote]]
| '''[http://nl.wikiquote.org Wikiquote]'''
|-
| align=&quot;center&quot; | [[Image:Wikinews-logo.png|51px|Wikinews]]
| '''[http://nl.wikinews.org Wikinews]'''
| align=&quot;center&quot; | [[Image:Wikispecies-logo.png|35px|Wikispecies]]
| '''[[:wikispecies:|Wikispecies]]'''
| align=&quot;center&quot; | [[Image:Wikibooks-logo.png|35px|Wikibooks]]
| '''[http://nl.wikibooks.org Wikibooks]'''
|-
| align=&quot;center&quot; | [[Image:Wikisource-logo.png|35px|Wikisource]]
| '''[http://nl.wikisource.org Wikisource]'''
| align=&quot;center&quot; | [[Image:Commons-logo.png|31px|Commons]]
| '''[[:commons:|Wikimedia Commons]]'''
| align=&quot;center&quot; | [[Image:Wikimedia-logo.png |35px|Meta]]
| '''[[:m:|Meta-Wiki]]'''
|}
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    <title>Template:Sisterprojects/Zh</title>
    <id>1941</id>
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      <contributor>
        <ip>129.49.88.80</ip>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;noinclude&gt;{{translation}}&lt;/noinclude&gt;

&lt;div style=&quot;background-color: #FFFFFF; margin: 0; border: 1px solid #DEDED3; padding: 7px 7px 0px 7px;  -moz-border-radius:5px&quot;&gt;
維基學院是 非盈利組織[[wikimedia:Home|維基媒體基金會]]的一項計劃. 維基媒體基金會 also hosts a range of other [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Multilingual coordination|multilingual]] and [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Copyrights|自由-content]] 計劃:

{|width=&quot;100%&quot; align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;4&quot; style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot;
| align=&quot;center&quot; | {{Click || image=Wikipedia-logo.png | link=wikipedia: | width=35px | height=35px }}
| '''[[wikipedia:|維基百科]]'''&lt;br /&gt;自由的百科全書
| align=&quot;center&quot; | {{Click || image=Wiktionary-logo-en.png | link=wiktionary: | width=51px | height=35px }}
| '''[[wiktionary:|維基字典]]'''&lt;br /&gt; – 萬國語言之字詞典
| align=&quot;center&quot; | {{Click || image=Wikiquote-logo.png | link=wikiquote: | width=40px | height=41px }}
| '''[[wikiquote:|Wikiquote]]'''&lt;br /&gt;Collection of quotations
|-
| align=&quot;center&quot; | {{Click || image=Wikinews-logo.png | link=wikinews: | width=51px | height=30px }}
| '''[[wikinews:|維基新聞]]'''&lt;br /&gt;天下大事慨述
| align=&quot;center&quot; | {{Click || image=Wikispecies-logo.png | link=wikispecies: | width=35px | height=41px }}
| '''[[wikispecies:|Wikispecies]]'''&lt;br /&gt;Directory of species
| align=&quot;center&quot; | {{Click || image=Wikibooks-logo.png  | link=wikibooks: | width=35px | height=35px }}
| '''[[wikibooks:|維基教本]]'''&lt;br /&gt;各科教本
|-
| align=&quot;center&quot; | {{Click || image=Wikisource-logo.png | link=wikisource: | width=35px | height=37px }}
| '''[[wikisource:|維基文庫]]'''&lt;br /&gt;集天下自由文章
| align=&quot;center&quot; | {{Click || image=Commons-logo.png | link=commons: | width=31px | height=41px }}
| '''[[commons:|元維基]]'''&lt;br /&gt;公有之多媒體資料庫
| align=&quot;center&quot; | {{Click || image=Wikimedia-logo.png | link=meta: | width=35px | height=36px }}
| '''[[meta:|Meta-Wiki]]'''&lt;br /&gt;協調諸維基計劃 
|}
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  <page>
    <title>User:Hardern</title>
    <id>1942</id>
    <revision>
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      <timestamp>2006-10-16T21:07:29Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Hardern</username>
        <id>101</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">See, for example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hardern</text>
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  </page>
  <page>
    <title>User:Barcex</title>
    <id>1943</id>
    <revision>
      <id>3485</id>
      <timestamp>2006-10-17T06:59:14Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Barcex</username>
        <id>102</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">I'm at [[w:es:Usuario:Barcex]]</text>
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  </page>
  <page>
    <title>User:Davidandrade</title>
    <id>1944</id>
    <revision>
      <id>3487</id>
      <timestamp>2006-10-18T03:50:58Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Davidandrade</username>
        <id>64</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">Melhores informações sobre melhor procurar em [http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usu%C3%A1rio:Davidandrade Davidandrade].

Tinha me registrado a algum tempo, mas só agora vou me dedicar mais a este projeto.

==Usuários==
*[[User:Guillom]]
*[[User:555]]
*[[User:SallesNeto BR]]
*[[User:Lijealso]]
*[[User:Xandi]]
*[[User:FML]]</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Wikiversité</title>
    <id>1945</id>
    <revision>
      <id>4021</id>
      <timestamp>2006-11-14T11:45:15Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Sainte-Rose</username>
        <id>62</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>/* À mettre en place rapidement */  + honneurs</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">Cette page sert à la préparation de l'ouverture de la Wikiversité francophone.

== Travail préliminaire ==

* Clarifier ce en quoi consiste le projet Wikiversity afin de pouvoir... (voir [[Wikiversité/À propos de la Wikiversité]])
* ... préparer un message à diffuser sur les bistros locaux et la liste de discussion, pour informer et recruter
* définir un glossaire de termes à utiliser, à éviter ...
:::* Définir une architecture globale, ici [[Wikiversité/Divisions]]

== Ouverture ==

* Demande sur bugzilla
* Demande pour les sources d'import :
** fr.wikibooks
** meta.wikimedia
** en.wikiversity
** beta.wikiversity
** fr.wikipedia ? (pour les pages d'aide)
* Pertinence d'un espace de noms transwiki ? Il y aura de nombreux imports à faire, ça peut être utile

== À mettre en place rapidement ==

* page de description du projet
* WV n'est pas WP ni WB
* bistro local
* page à propos de concierges (ou jardiniers ?)
** [[/Honneurs]]
* pages sur la procédure de transfert : page de requête, page d'aide expliquant ce que peuvent faire les non sysop
* écrire des pages d'aide
* lien sur les pages d'accueil des autres projets francophones (+ interwikis autres wikiversiy)
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I'm '''Gerard Boyers''', 17, from England, and I'm here helping out on Wikiversity.

I own/run two Wikis of my own, [http://www.technicalwiki.com TechnicalWiki] and [http://www.grandtheftwiki.com Grand Theft Wiki]. I enjoy running these sites, and I really love how anybody can get involved. There's something exciting about having everything on the edge, ready to be assimilated by some passing troll. As many of you should know, there's nothing like a good hard night's reverting and banning up until 6am.

My other sites are: [http://www.ttpn.net TTPN], [http://www.vistasector.com VistaSector] and [http://www.msforums.com MSForums]
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      <text xml:space="preserve">==Reverted==
Ooops. Reverted the logo by accident (I put it back though). I clicked (rev) expecting to see that revision. I was under the impression it was only custodians that could rollback? Apologies anyway - [[User:Xenon|Xenon]] 22:50, 18 October 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">Wikiversity '''custodians''' (also known as administrators or sysops), are Wikiversity users who have access to technical features that help with maintenance of Wikiversity. Those features include protecting and deleting pages, blocking other editors, and undoing these actions as well.

Any user can behave in a way befitting an administrator (or moderator), even if they have not been given the extra administrative functions. However, if you spot something that does require a custodian to deal with, you can [[Wikiversity:Request custodian action|request custodian action]]

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==ویکی‌جزوه چیست؟==

این پروژه یک تلاش جهانی برای تمامی پروژه‌های Wikiversity است. این '''[[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/En|هماهنگی چندزبانه]]''' باید با   [[Wikiversity:Mission|رهیافت]] Wikiversity and general guidelines of the project's scope (for example, about original research).

Wikiversity beta is also an incubator for Wikiversities in various languages that are not separate projects. So far, [[:en:Wikiversity:Main Page|English]]. [[:de:Hauptseite|German]] and [[:es:Portada|Spanish]] are [[Wikiversity:separate projects|separate projects]]. See the [[Wikiversity:Reports/En|News from separate projects]].

'''If you want to set up a new Wikiversity''', you must have ten active participants who are willing to work on that language project. When you have this number you can [[m:Requests for new languages#Requests for Wikiversity Languages|request]] (at meta) for a new language domain to be set up. In the meantime, please add your project's main page to [[Template:Main page]].

''You may also look at the [[Help:FAQ/En|Frequently Asked Questions]].''

==Guidelines==
''Please help develop (and translate) our international guidelines that will apply to all language projects.''
*[[Wikiversity:Scope of research/En|Scope of research]] - should Wikiversity allow all types of [[Wikiversity:Research/En|research]], including [[Wikiversity:Original research/En|original research]]?
*[[Wikiversity:Scope of research/En|Research guidelines]] - what rules are needed to assure that only high quality, scholarly research activities take place?

==In progress==
*Develop our multilingual portal (http://www.wikiversity.org) at [[m:Talk:Www.wikiversity.org template|Meta]]
*Join in our current [[m:Wikiversity/logo|logo vote]] and [[:en:Wikiversity:Motto_contest|motto contest]]

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      <text xml:space="preserve">Hello. I would say it's for conducting reasearch projects on Wikiversity, and possibly publishing it. [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 14:22, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
:''Just do it'' and be bold ;) See [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/En]] if possible. [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 14:50, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

==Research guidelines ==
1. Quote:&quot;*Research projects within Wikiversity that use research methods in addition to literature review (primary research)&quot;--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 01:58, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
*What does the phrase ''within wikiversity'' mean?

2. Quote:&quot;All research must be ethical. If you are deceiving, harming or using data without consent, that research should not be published on Wikiversity.&quot;
*I have some conceptual problems here. 
**What do you mean by ''published on wikiversity''?
**I gather that, everything I write here is public, but nothing would be ''published'', as long as I do not solemnly declare so.
**But then, in the above quote, do you really mean, ''If you are deceiving, harming or using data without consent, that research should not be '''conducted''' on wikiversity''?  Or do you mean that, ''it is okay to do those unethical things so long as you don't include them in the final report''?--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 08:25, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

3.Quote:&quot;You should propose a hypothesis, and you should be enthusiastic to obtain the results. However, there is a difference between proving a hypothesis and manipulating results. You should conduct research to find out what the results are, not to prove yourself right.&quot;
*The guideline should not tell researchers what they should do.  And it cannot make people enthusiastic by telling them to be.--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 09:29, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

==On your reply==
1. ''In my experience on the web, anything publically accessible is classed as published, not neccessarily those sent  Perhaps that is too restrictive for Wikiversity, but it is a looser and less permenant sense than book publishing.''
*Indeed it is very restrictive.  How can students learn without informal discussions?  If you want everything to be considered ''published'', ''wikiversity'' would not be different from ''wikibook''.

2. ''ethical guidelines''...   
* These are called guidelines, but they are more than that. Wikimedia would look at them to know what wikiversity does.   The ''ethical guidelines'' may need some more care in its formulation.

3.   ''The same goes for &quot;you should be enthusiastic&quot; - we can't force it but it makes research better. I'm not 
* This is unnecessary.

4.  ''there's also no point in gathering data if you're going to change what that 
data says.'' 
* This belongs to ''ethics''.
5. '' I'm advising people what should and should not be 'published' on Wikiversity, with regards to research. 
*Here is a confusion.  This is a set of ''research guidelines'', whereas ''publication'' is only the final of the many processes of ''research.

Best,[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 12:20, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

:''Neutral Point of View'' is not suitable for describing the research process.  The correct notion is ''objectivity''.
:&quot;Results manipulation is separate to maintaining an ethical procedure. If people change the results to suit their POV, to back up what they think or simply to prove themselves right, that defies the entire notion of conducting research - they might as well just make it up completely. The research guidelines should outline that the raw data should not be edited, although any user is free to add their own interpretation and analysis of the results.&quot; - 
:*This is part of the research ethics.  I see that you use the term ''ethic'' in the narrow sense of ''moral''.  I do not think this usage is standard.
-[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 18:39, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
:'''research''' as ''posting your hypothesis, design and initial results on a page, other people discussing them on the discussion tab and making edits where appropriate ''
:*Then the discussion page should be as free as the law allows.--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 18:49, 20 October 2006 (UTC)


==Modes of Communications==
*I mean that ''those are the types of communications that occurs in any scholarstic institution''.  Therefore wikiversity must accomodate them, one way or other.

''However, how do we define who is an 'expert', and does an 11 year old schoolboy count as a student?''
*Expert = somebody who uses the knowledge fluently;  student = somebody who is learning.  I use these terms loosely.  The important things are the different ''modes of communication''.
''Who would be permitted to post seminars or letters, what distinguishes these people?''
*Communication is between two persons.  These two persons choose the particular mode of communication.
*Wikiversity should only be responsible for its ''publications'', after ''peer review'', which would be in the ''report'' namespace (or category).  As time goes along, wikiversity may also vouch for some of its ''lecturers''.  Yet, since a lot more is going on in a university than those formal discourses, wikiversity should also accomodate them- they may be good or bad, but a scholar has the freedom of speech.  Whoever says anything stupid would just be ignored.  --[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 19:06, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

''Taking one of your ideas, would it not be a good idea simply to have Question&amp;Answer sessions? ''
*Yes.-[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 19:06, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

== disadvantages to hosting research ==

&quot;I see no disadvantages to hosting research (whether approved by a Wikiversity committee or whatever). If there are, could you point them out?&quot; &lt;-- I share your enthusiasm for exploring the use of Wikiversity as a place for online collaborative research. I think the main difficulty for research in a wiki environment is the same now as what it was when Wikipedia started. How is a volunteer community going to prevent [[w:Crank (person)|cranks]] and POV-pushers from exploiting an open platform for their misguided or intellectually dishonest purposes? An entire set of interlocking safeguards has been put in place to protect Wikimedia Foundation projects from this danger - all centered on the [[w:Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|NPOV]] and [[w:Wikipedia:No original research|NOR]] policies. If Wikiversity is going to open the door to original research, we will need a new set of safeguards that allow us to make sure that our well-intentioned openness to research is not hijacked by trouble-makers. This is why the Board of Trustees requested ([http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2006-August/009074.html ...guidelines should be developped, *in particular* with regards to collaborative research....]) that the Wikiversity community make plans for how to conduct research. In my view, [[w:Wikipedia:POV pushing|POV-pushing]] is a tricky issue to address within Wikiversity guidelines for research. We need to protect forms of POV-pushing that are honest attempts to reveal new knowledge. At the same time, we need to prevent attempts to use Wikiversity to advance propaganda and other forms of dishonest POV-pushing. Towards this end, I think Wikiversity needs some sort of formal system for review of research activities and &quot;publication of research results&quot;. This means creating a system by which the Wikiversity community would utilize the required methods (such as making use of experts for peer review and detecting bogus research) to promote high standards of academic and intellectual honesty. It is not at all obvious that the Wikiversity community can do this. I think it is clear that Wikiversity will not be allowed to &quot;wing it&quot; in the sense that we will not be allowed to open our arms to original research unless we show that we have first identified likely problems and put in place a system to deal with them. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 20:56, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

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&quot;completed research....protected and labelled approved&quot; &lt;-- I think that Wikiversity needs to be creative in providing ways to allow participants to control who can edit research-related pages. I accept the idea that it should be possible to archive certain pages as &quot;historical artifacts&quot; that will not be subject to additional editing. The approach that everyone can edit every page will not be useful for Wikiversity pages were one person or a small group of collaborators is exploring a strange new idea. There is a start towards a system for page protection at [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Page_protection_templates Wikiversity:Page protection templates]. 

&quot;allow members of the community to tag sections of the report as unfair (with a template+category), allow encourage discussion of it, and allow corrections (and reversions) by custodians as normal.&quot; &lt;-- I'm not sure if you have seen [http://academia.wikia.com this website]. It has some examples of templates that can be used control who can make changes to a page and to indicate how people can comment on on-going work (for example, see [http://academia.wikia.com/wiki/Initial_draft Initial draft]. I do not think that custodians can be relied on for making good decisions about the content of pages dealing with research. Yes, for obvious problems (page contents that are obvious vandalism) custodians and all wiki participants can always act to correct the problem.  I am more concerned about situations where the problems are subtle and expert knowledge of a topic might be required to understand what the problem is. This is why I have suggested the creation of a new type of Wikiversity functionary who would help guide the community through such problems ([http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Review_board see]). 

&quot;actual collected data should be kept in a subpage and protected by a custodian as soon as it is there - that way neither the researcher or any malicious or well-intentioned editor has any chance to manipulate the data to push their agenda.&quot; &lt;-- I hope that there would be little need for custodian involvement. For example, by tradition, wiki participants can claim their user page as their own. Some participants invite others to edit their user page, but unless such an invitation is given, nobody else has a right to edit your user page. There are very few cases where administrators need to actually act to protect user pages from editing. Similarly, it might be possible to mark pages as being archives and just leave it at that, in most cases.  

&quot;ensure the objectivity of the report&quot; &lt;-- I agree that objectivity is the ultimate goal of the entire research process, but it is also the case that individual research reports fall short of that goal. It is more important that individual reports fully describe the methods used so that others can try to replicate the results.

&quot;completed research....labelled approved&quot; &lt;-- The idea that peer review and discussion ends and then a research report is published is an artifact of the print era. An advantage of electronic publication is that peer review can continue after publication. Problems with published articles are often not recognized until years later when  it is found that reported results can not be replicated. More importantly, research results really do not mean much until they can be independently supported by others. In my view, the true authority of a research report only comes from an historical record of confirmation of the contents of the report by others. If Wikiversity gets involved in a system for research publication, I hope that system has a clear system for marking research as confirmed or unconfirmed with full access to the evidence for confirmation. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 01:59, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

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&quot;having a Research: namespace, and with [*] permissions set to readonly.&quot; &lt;-- I agree with the idea of requiring user account creation for participation in some aspects of Wikiversity. I previously suggested that anyone who wants to move outside of the confines of the traditional Wikimedia Foundation NPOV policy be required to have a user account with a confirmed email address for contacts  ([http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Scholarly_ethics Wikiversity:Scholarly ethics]). In the area of research, I think it is unavoidable that participants will be dealing with wiki pages that exist outside of the confines of traditional NPOV policy. The idea of a &quot;Research:&quot; [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Namespaces namespace] is interesting. The alternative is to simply make use of a category for pages that are devoted to original research. In my opinion, a good learning environment is always pushing up against the unknown and the role of research in revealing new knowledge and questioning old ideas. I think the claim can be made that everything we try to pass off as &quot;facts&quot; in a learning environment is really just the result of someone's interpretation of the available evidence. Good teaching often makes clear the origin of &quot;the facts&quot; and integrates understanding of limitations that exist in what is being asserted. This means that there should be a burring of boundaries between teaching and research. I wonder if creating a &quot;Research:&quot; namespace might do more harm than good. Would it bolster the thinking of those who compartmentalize research away from education? I know that having namespaces for pages that serve specific purposes is useful, but it is also one of the less intuitive aspects of the wiki user interface. There is a general trend in Wikimedia Foundation projects towards splitting off individual projects for each specific mission. Each project is organized around a main namespace that is supposed to have a particular well-defined type of content. If we put research-related pages anywhere except the main namespace, people will be able to argue that research is a separate type of content that should exist in its own wiki. I prefer the alternative view, that research and education should be totally integrated. So we have to balance the positive organizational benefits of a &quot;Research:&quot; namespace against the danger of increasing the harmful divisions that already tend to grow between education and research. I have one last comment on the idea of a &quot;Research:&quot; namespace, see below.

&quot;referees as approved editors (with academic experience)&quot; &lt;-- Wikiversity has no way of establishing the fact that a participant has &quot;academic experience&quot;. I think all we can do as a community is look at a participant's editing history and decide if that person seems to know what they are doing and if they have the social skills required to constructively interact with other members of the online community.

&quot;formally review research reports and deal with anomalies and agenda-pushing? What stage of the process would this occur in&quot; &lt;-- I agree that there needs to be a flexible process whereby review of research is a constant process. In a wiki, everyone who looks at a page is called upon to identify potential problems and help the community deal with them. A problem that Wikipedia has is that it has made no effort to support the participation of experts. This is dangerous because the experts often come to feel that they have no advantage over dishonest POV-pushers and others who are disrupting the process of constructing a useful information resource. The most important thing would be to have some system by which the community can identify participants who are constructive and trusted and encourage them to take the lead as community advisors; this means calling upon them to play a role in explaining how their specialized knowledge illuminates content disputes/issues that the community may be facing….at all stages of the research process. But I also think there should be a formal peer review process in addition to the normal &quot;wiki review process&quot;. In particular, there is a critical time when a researcher says, &quot;okay, I have done my best, here are my new ideas/results/data and it is time for others to look them over, check for errors, try to replicate my results.&quot; In my opinion, this is a good time for a serious and formal dialog to start between the authors of the new research report and a community of interested peers.

&quot;is when the referee happens by enough?&quot; &lt;-- if the system is designed correctly (and I think this is the true challenge we face) then it will be enough. The basic principle will have to be that if the required minimum number of trusted peer reviewers does not give an okay, then the new research is not viewed as having been &quot;formally published&quot;. This means it will be of critical importance to have a large enough research community so that there are enough reviewers. 

&quot;anybody is entitled to their own point of view so long as they do not edit others POVs or vandalise&quot; &lt;-- That is the starting point of the research process, but new research is really meaningless until others have looked carefully at it and then said, &quot;the methods used seem sound,&quot; and, &quot;we did the same kind of research study and got similar results&quot;.

&quot;Should researchers have to submit hypotheses and an outlined procedure for approval before they proceed with the research, or at least before they can submit it? Either that or referees should have the ability responsibility to weed out 'bad' projects and discuss them with their creator.&quot; &lt;-- I think the important thing will be for Wikiversity to take seriously the fact that knowing how to do good research is one of the most important cultural treasures that is passed from generation to generation. Experienced researchers need to open their on-going research projects to students. Students who participate in research projects learn how to do research. Wikiversity should develop many types of systems for research mentoring, advising and collaboration. In the bricks-and-mortar world this is all done on a very formal basis. There is often a huge investment of time and effort required to train someone how to do good research. It will be interested to see how a distributed online community can deal with these issues! I think there will naturally come to be a system within which anyone who does not have a proven track record of doing good research will face very close scrutiny when they start doing research at Wikiversity. It is rather like open microphone night at a performance club. It does not take very long for people to figure out who is an experienced performer and who is a bumbling beginner. I would certainly be in favor of a system that would require researchers to make a very public statement of what their goals and methods are right at the start of a new research project. This would also be a good time for people to invite collaboration and help from experienced researchers.

&quot;the original researcher themselves ….. Could they not pass on responsibility for maintaining the report to a peer, friend or other editor? &lt;-- I hope that Wikiversity will be a place where productive research collaborations exist. It is easy for me to imaging research projects that would be started by one Wikiversity participant and then continued by others even after the originator leaves. I think that hosting &quot;research projects&quot; would be the proper use of a &quot;Research:&quot; namespace. All of the &quot;meta-research&quot; discussions about how to do research could exist in the &quot;Research:&quot; namespace while actual research reports should go into the Wikiversity main namespace (in a category for research results).

&quot;The referees would be a great asset, but what would be the selection criteria&quot; &lt;-- A &quot;referee&quot; (it might be better to use another name such as &quot;community advisor&quot;) should have a public history of page edits and constructive interactions with other wiki participants. There would have to be a system by which members of the community would look at the edit history and construct a report that evaluates the nature and quality of the edits. There could be objective criteria such as, Does the &quot;referee candidate&quot; cite reliable and verifiable sources when adding information to wiki pages? Does the &quot;referee candidate&quot; respond to questions and challenges with constructive discussion? --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 17:30, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

*'''Referee and outreach''':  Wikiversity must ''reach out''(as John Schmidt says) so that the public benefit from the knowledge generated.   Wikiversity must show the results of her studies to the public.  Some studies are too esoteric, and the only chance is to show them to ''somebody the public can trust'' - an established scholar, or submit it to an established ''refereed journal''.  Wikiversity cannot conduct every piece of research and peer review all by itself.  No university can do that.  No institution can.  No matter how good your works are, you must let others evaluate it. --[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 01:23, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

== more comments on what you said on my talk page ==

&quot;to me lessons and research are two ends of the scale&quot; &lt;--- there is no doubt that our culture is dominated by the idea that education is process by which students are rolled down the factory line and have facts and knowledge poured into their heads. An alternative approach to education is to allow students to be active learners. One of the great ways to get students excited about learning and involved in charting the course of their own personal growth is to involve them in activities that allow then to play the role of a discoverer/investigator. Which approach to learning is better suited for the wiki user interface? Sure, you can use wiki as a tool for constructing an online replica of the traditional bricks-and-mortar factory school. However, the purpose of wiki software is to promote collaborative authoring of webpages. A natural choice is to adopt a learning model in which the student can be an active participant in everything that goes on in a collaborative learning environment and this is the model that was incorporated in the Wikiversity project proposal. One of the key features of research is the importance of   critical thinking and &quot;thinking outside of the box&quot;. By involving students in research or at the very least explaining the research process and taking the time to show where &quot;the facts&quot; come from, students learn to be critical thinkers and really come to understand things rather than just memorizing facts for the next exam. I like to think of the printing press and cheap books as tools that made universal literacy possible. I like to think of the internet and tools like wiki websites as a way to change the way our culture has traditionally sent most people down the factory education track while a minority group gets a more complete education. I think our culture has reached the point where everyone should have &quot;research literacy&quot;. There are some people working towards the goal of making sure that every student in the world has a computer, access to the internet, and is able to participate in [http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Constructionist constructionistis learning environments].  So, in my view, Wikiversity can be part of an exploration of ways to revolutionize education. Jimmy Wales made [[w:Free Culture movement|a list]] of things to &quot;set free&quot; including &quot; the curriculum&quot;.  In my opinion, we should explore the idea that it might be possible to add research to that list of cultural elements that should be freely available to everyone on the planet. I'd be saddened to see any decisions made about the structure of Wikiversity that bias Wikiversity towards convention (education and research are distinct) and inhibit our ability to explore new styles of education that are likely to become increasingly important in the future.

&quot;I don't think having a namespace for research would baffle people&quot; &lt;-- the bafflement would only come from having to divide things into artificial &quot;research&quot; and &quot;not-research&quot; categories while at the same time trying to increase the integration of research into all aspects of education (which is an approach I would like to be free to explore). For people who are not interested in such integration it would be natural to split research off into its own compartment. These are the kinds of choices that the Wikiversity community has to make. I hope we can make them while looking to the future rather than while clinging to the arbitrary conventions of the past.

&quot;You suggest using Research: for the projects and collaboration, but I suppose that's nothing that couldn't be done from the main namespace.&quot; &lt;-- everything could be done in a single namespace in a single wiki. The Wikipedia community has spontaneously &quot;invented&quot; the idea of &quot;WikiProjects&quot;, a form of meta-content that functions as wiki content development projects. At Wikipedia all of these projects are in a pseudo namespace that starts with &quot;Wikipedia:WikiProject&quot;. While still at Wikibooks, the Wikiversity community created content development pages called schools and departments. When the Wikiversity website was started, these content development projects were formalized within two new namespaces, &quot;School:&quot; and &quot;Topic:&quot;. Wikiversity participants can work together in these content development projects to produce educational resources that are placed in the main namespace. We could do the same thing with a &quot;Research:&quot; namespace. All of the research-related planning and meta-discussions could be in the form of projects located in the &quot;Research:&quot; namespace while actual data and research reports would exist in the main namespace. You might feel that it would be overwhelming to put all actual Wikiversity content (yes it is going to be a huge amount of &quot;stuff&quot;!)  into the main namespace, but the portal/category system is powerful. In addition, some Wikiversity participants are devoted to the idea of creating a new &quot;metadata&quot; system to aid in searching content. 

&quot;should we have individual URM permissions for the researcher to be allowed to create pages in the Research: namespace?&quot; What is &quot;URM&quot;?

&quot;Don't worry, I'll stop using up so much of your talk page soon&quot; &lt;-- No problem. Eventually all of these topics will show up in the [[Wikiversity talk:Research guidelines/En|centralized discussion]]. Hopefully before the 6 month &quot;deadline&quot; set by the Board of Trustees. [[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 17:35, 25 October 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">These '''Research guidelines''' are for conducting research and posting it on Wikiversity. When approved, these guidelines apply to all the [[Wikiversity:Separate projects|separate projects]]. Please continue to edit and add to these guidelines, but do so with respect to consensus and the general feeling among editors as to how research should be conducted.

On Wikiversity, we allow:
*Literature reviews that produce new knowledge (secondary research)
*Research projects within Wikiversity that use research methods in addition to literature review (primary research)
*Collaborative research projects involving researchers at institutions outside of Wikiversity

'''Original research''' is an investigation involving a hypothesis and gathering of data - that data would then be analysed and the procedure evaluated. Secondary research is an alternative interpretation of the results, or discussion of the analysis - involving new theories but not new data.

These guidelines fall down to two main categories: objectivity and ethics.

==Objectivity==

Research posted on Wikiversity should be conducted in an [[:en:w:Scientific method|objective]] manner, including posting the raw data without manipulation. 

Original research should be conducted objectively. The researcher should be willing accept any outcome of its analysis. One may propose a hypothesis, and then, using the results, prove or disprove his hypothesis, without manipulating results. One should not conduct a research to prove one's self right (or someone else wrong).

Wikiversity is a wiki, and anybody can edit your project. You must allow others to edit your work, or otherwise Wikiversity is a wrong platform for it.  Please be aware that not every contribution on wikiversity is accurate or even true.  However, do not disregard opinions because they contradict yours. Rather, discuss and build upon them.

:I have a simple solution to the problem of the lack of objectivity. Every user should be obliged to base their views and claims on sources. Conflicts between opposing views can be resolved first by studying aditional sources. If this doesn't resolve a conflict, then both views can be described by the proponents of these views in footnotes. In an article, verifiable information should be more important, then the NPOV-policy.--[[User:Daanschr|Daanschr]] 11:50, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::This is an important point. [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/WV:CITE Citation of sources] is a fundamental foundation for research-related activities. But eventually, research projects reach the end of the existing literature and those who are engaged in research projects must move beyond the sources that can be cited. The steps that are taken beyond cited sources must be fully explained. A major task for the peer review process is critical evaluation of the steps that are taken beyond cited sources. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 15:50, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:::A solution for the problem of peer reviews could be that we have different groups of peer reviewers all with different guidelines. Some peer reviewers could be open for a large public with little requirements on quality and other peer reviewers could be more exclusive and aimed at objectivity. This way anybody can join Wikiversity and it could still get the highest quality possible. For me the main problem remains to get people here to join Wikiversity, otherwise it will not work at all.--[[User:Daanschr|Daanschr]] 10:46, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Objectivity is often not hard to check. However, it requires an expert to check if an argument is ''correct''.--[[User:24.186.207.74|24.186.207.74]] 11:53, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
:::There are several levels of checking objectivity. The most simple one would be having data from a respectable source. A second level could be acquiring different kinds of respectable sources, which could contradict eachother, then it should be determined which respectable source is more objective then the other. A third level could be the misinterpretation of sources. Sometimes misunderstanding a single word or sentence in a book of 300 pages can change a whole outlook on the subject. To conclude, objectivity is hard to check to my opinion.
:::An argument can be a genuine opinion of a person. Experts with a different opinion shouldn't be allowed to check the correctness of an opinion. I am in favour of open debates, in which freedom of expressing views is guaranteed. To decide which opinion is more important to give notice to then another opinion, it would be good to give prominence to a certain level of objectivity.--[[User:Daanschr|Daanschr]] 12:17, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::::&quot;objectivity is hard to check&quot;....&quot;genuine opinion&quot; &lt;-- The conduct of research requires social support systems that guide the research process towards objectivity. One important component of the research process is protection of the process from conflicts of interest. There are many political, religious and economic influences that can deflect the research process away from objectivity. Part of the Wikiversity guidelines for research should be a requirement that everyone participating in research [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Disclosures declare] their known biases and potential conflicts of interest. Wikiversity needs a [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Research_Ethics Research Ethics] policy that includes high standards of [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Scholarly_ethics scholarly ethics] and rules about declarations of conflicts of interest. &quot;freedom of expressing views is guaranteed&quot; &lt;-- This freedom in turn guarantees that individuals and groups with similar biases will introduce their biases into the research process. A peer review process must exist that has the power to expose these biases and overcome them. A wiki automatically has an element of peer review and all wiki participants are called upon to check the work of other editors. However, such informal peer review is highly distributed and does not automatically result in an effective system to detect and weed-out biases. If Wikiversity is going to have original research and avoid potential problems, some type of [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Review_board formal peer review process] must be established that will be rigorous, explicit and open to verification. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 18:25, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
The links that you posted are all leading towards the English Wikiversity. In the Netherlands words as ethics and bias are hardly ever used. There has been nobody in my country who tried to prevent me from being unethical or unbiased. Therefore, i misunderstood you completely and perceived your words as negative. At the moment, i wouldn't want to translate the words bias and ethics. These words are perceived as negative by Dutch people. I would like to propose to use more neutral words instead of ethics and bias when dealing with interlingual discussions. This has to be discussed with people from other languages then English and Dutch. Other languages could have another perspective again. The NPOV-policy on Wikipedia wouldn't pose any problems. I really liked it when i read it the first time.--[[User:Daanschr|Daanschr]] 21:16, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:::The problem of declaring biases is that it will unnecassarily simplify views. My experience is that persons of different ideologies can agree with eachother in details, while dissagreeing with others within their own ideology on the same details. Also, some people want to have a label or don't know what to choose between biases. Another issue is what should be mentioned as a bias and what is common knowledge? People can change their views and will have trouble staying connected to a former bias. An insistence on people to mention their biases will lead to enormous political problems. Mentioning so-called biases will lead us away from objectivity instead of getting towards it, because objectivity is often hidden in the details and not in the wider concepts.
:::I agree with the research ethics, allthough it shouldn't be implemented too rigorously. I would like ethics of research to correspond to worldwide standards instead of the standards of the United States and other countries (I am from the Netherlands and not from the USA).
:::Regarding the scholarly ethics, truth is a subjective concept. Truth changes thoughout time and from group to group, not because one (self-righteous) group is not biased and all the others are, but simply because truth is hard to catch. Science is a worldwide battlefield. Scientists can only win because their scientific theory works and that of others don't. People can easily fake commitment to the principles of scholarly ethics and get away with it, even being succesful in excluding so-called honest people who are true to their convictions (which could be wrong, meaning not working).
:::It is impossible to overcome biases, we all have them and keep them or replace them by others. What i am trying to say is not new. Read Blaise Pascal, John Stuart Mill, Friedrich Nietzsche, Wittgenstein, Michel foucault and many other promenent western thinkers and ancient philosophers. I guess that you probably wanted to have a peer review to prevent the kind of anarchism normal at Wikipedia. In that i would agree. I am here, because i am dissatisfied with the lack of consideration for facts on Wikipedia. However, more consideration for facts will never remove bias.--[[User:Daanschr|Daanschr]] 23:22, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::::&quot;declaring biases&quot; &lt;-- If people are encouraged to declare their biases and conflicts of interest then they can join in a group effort aimed at consciousness raising and group-assisted introspection. In the past, information and communication were expensive. Vast segments of economies were built around hoarding information and making profit from having kept it from others. If we are going to pursue the Wikimedia Foundation goal of providing free access to the sum of all human knowledge then we need new social practices that facilitate those goals. In a wiki format, a declaration of biases is not an act of chiseling one's dogmatic beliefs into stone, rather, it is the starting point of dialog, the first step on the path to finding common ground and overcoming misunderstandings that arise when we do not openly discuss such things. If we design our policies correctly then wiki will remain a tool for collaboration, in this case, collaboration between researchers who may come at a problem from different directions and with different biases. Yes, openness and discussion can result in some misunderstandings, particularly when participants in the discussion are emerging from the confines of several different and isolated cultural domains, but in a wiki we must view openness and discussion as tools that can help us towards the goal free access to human knowledge. It is up to us to craft a set of guidelines that will allow us to use wiki technology as this kind of tool.  &quot;objectivity is often hidden in the details&quot; &lt;-- We have to find ways to use openness and discussion to expose those details. &quot;ethics of research.....worldwide standards instead of the standards of the United States&quot; &lt;-- What Wikiversity needs is the fundamentals of research ethics, things like openness and honesty, things that are not defined by national borders. &quot;truth&quot; &lt;-- I think it is possible to discuss [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Scholarly_ethics scholarly ethics] without introducing the concept of &quot;truth&quot;. &quot;People can easily fake commitment to the principles of scholarly ethics and get away with it&quot; &lt;-- It becomes less easy to &quot;get away with it&quot; when all of one's actions take place in an open environment where they are subject to critical evaluation by peers. &quot;the kind of anarchism normal at Wikipedia&quot; &lt;-- I'm not sure that the sort of anarchism that exists at Wikipedia is the main problem we have to deal with in creating research policy for Wikiversity. The main problem is that if we open Wikiversity to &quot;original research&quot; (something Wikipedia does not do) then we need to have an effective defense against against forms of propaganda and silliness that will try to be passed off as &quot;original research&quot;. Systems for formal peer review provide a proven method for dealing with this problem. We just need to figure out how to craft such a defense in a form that is well-suited for the wiki format. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 01:38, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I agree with you that it is good to prevent that economic interest spoils the academic practises on Wikiversity. Commercial interest should be excluded.
:::You didn't responded to my concern of the subjectivity of bias. Therefore i will give you some problems that will very likely arise and you could give some solutions for them, if you want to.
:::1)What is a bias and what is not a bias? Does it matter what music someone likes or what someone thinks about certain religions or political ideologies or about having pets or if spaghetti may be cut into pieces or not before you eat it.
:::2)Having a bias can mean different things. An example is political bias. In the USA, liberals are left-wing and conservatives right-wing. In the Netherlands, socialists are left-wing and liberals right-wing. A Dutch right-wing liberal would be a conservative, pro-christian, anti-muslim, pro-capitalism, anti-social security. Does it matter in this case wether this person has a liberal bias? Within a country or a political party, a political bias can be very different. It depends on the person what a bias is. Political parties in my country had major criseses on issues which nearly split these parties in two, all because of dissagreements based on difference of opinion.
:::3)The perception of a bias can change from the individual perspective. A conservative can be positive on another conservative, but negative on a liberal only because of the self-pronounced bias. This could jeopardize the attempt to come to good research regarding the problem of subjectivity. On Usenet and Yahoo Groups, there are groups of atheists and christians who try to convince eachother of their own truths. There are similar discussions between muslims and non-muslims. Participants of these discussions could change their perspective of a bias, but the controversy between religiousness and anti-religiousness remains. What strikes me in discussions between atheists and christians is that atheists always try to convince christians with reason, while christians often become christian because of social aspects like love, companionhood, commitment, meaning of life. Something coldhearted reason would never be able to give. I am unofficially not a christian, though.
:::4)Persons can change from one bias to another.
:::5)An important point for me is that there are people who can't choose between biases or don't have a certain bias. There are different identities competing within a person, especially among immigrants. Also, some people have no interest in a certain bias like a political one or a religious one. It will not work if they are forced to declare a bias they don't have. On the internet, it will simply mean that they will not participate here and join something else. I am therefore for an inclusive system that allows people freedom of conscience and identity.--[[User:Daanschr|Daanschr]] 08:11, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:::6)Research can be involuntarily put within a certain bias. This year i wrote a paper on the history of Shanghai as a treaty port. For this research, i read a book on the influence of the native place associations on the Chinese society, politics and history. In a review, this book was put within a certain school of thought it didn't belong to my opinion, while the writer of this book devoted her conclusion to looking at history without a pre-conceived concept. Her book became an important source of information for my paper.--[[User:Daanschr|Daanschr]] 08:23, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I like your aim of coming to global understanding between all humans. At another forum, i proposed to try to develop a world public opinion. Contradictions are now predominantly national and i would like to make them more global. An institute like Wikiversity, with an aim to promote objectivity and debate between people of different languages could become this world public opinion, but only if it is inclusive. I don't know if it is good to have a world public opinion, though.--[[User:Daanschr|Daanschr]] 12:23, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

&quot;1)What is a bias and what is not a bias?&quot; &lt;-- Are you asking what kinds of bias are relevant to the conduct of research? This can only be determined in the context of a particular research topic. If someone is doing research on climate change, then they should report potential conflicts of interest such as having a financial interest in a company that is in the energy sector of the economy. Similarly, if someone was active politically raising money, lobbying and trying to influence political decisions about energy policy, that should be reported as a potential conflict of interest. Many organizations that are involved in research cave written rules for conflict of interest reporting (examples: [http://grants.nih.gov/grants/policy/coi/ government agency], [http://www.ors.duke.edu/ors/policies/conflict.html university], [http://www.jwatch.org/misc/conflict.dtl watchdog group], [http://www.appi.org/mc/ajp/ajp_disclosure.pdf journal])

&quot;2) …political bias&quot; &lt;-- There are many levels of political bias. Some people are active members of politically-motivated groups and are involved in raising funds to push particular political agendas. If someone researching a medical topic related to abortion was politically active in funding, lobbying and trying to influence elections or laws related to abortion then they should report that political activity as a potential conflict of interest for their research activities. 

&quot;3)The perception of a bias can change from the individual perspective.&quot; &lt;-- this is true, so arbitrary thresholds are often set. For example, some conflict of interest policies set a value for how large a financial interest must be before it has to be reported as a potential conflict of interest. If an individual has private political or religious biases, there is generally no way of forcing such an individual to declare their biases. If someone is politically or religiously active in some way that is related to their research activities and there is a chance that politically or religiously activity can become known and would be perceived by others as a source of bias then it should be reported as a conflict of interest.

&quot;5)…..It will not work if they are forced to declare a bias they don't have.&quot; &lt;-- Having a rule that requires people to report their biases in no way suggests that people have to invent something to declare. 

&quot;an inclusive system that allows people freedom of conscience and identity&quot; &lt;-- I am not aware that anyone has suggested any policy that would unreasonably limit &quot;academic freedom&quot; in Wikiversity. There are some basic limitations that are unavoidable, such as the Wikimedia Foundation privacy policy and laws that govern online behavior. I think Wikiversity also needs a policy for research ethics that would potentially restrict the behavior of some individuals, but doing so is not unreasonable. 

&quot;6)Research can be involuntarily put within a certain bias.&quot; &lt;-- research results can sometimes be interpreted in multiple ways that are contradictory. Sometimes people want to retract their work when they feel it is being &quot;misused&quot;. Eventually Wikiversity will need rules that cover requests for removing information from Wikiversity. I think the general pattern within the Wikimedia Foundation is that there needs to be a clear legal basis (such as copright violation) for removing information from a wiki that uses the GFDL. In other words, if you publish an idea under the GFDL, then you become  unhappy with how someone else uses your idea, you do not get to control how other people are using your idea.

&quot;An institute like Wikiversity, with an aim to promote objectivity and debate between people of different languages could become this world public opinion, but only if it is inclusive&quot; &lt;-- The goal of research is to learn about the world. What we think we know is always tentative and open to discussion and re-evaluation. Objectivity is socially constructed through continual, varied and repeated questioning of what we think we know. Any individual research result is fairly unimportant. It is often wise to only really start to trust research results when multiple independent investigators (preferably using different approaches and methods) report the same results. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 14:26, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

:You made it much clearer for me. I agree with you, including your previous posts to this page. The main problem was the word bias. I translated it as 'vooroordeel', but it probably means something else.--[[User:Daanschr|Daanschr]] 14:46, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

:Wikipedia already covers all subjects of knowledge imaginable. The aim of Wikiversity could be to get to a more careful investigation of facts and views. However, Wikiversity will not acquire the quality now prevalent at universities for a long while. Research requires lots of time and could require lots of material which will all cost money. I think that the organization is more important then the rules. Different sets of rules can be used for different purposes, what is needed most is commitment for the organization. This could be reached by organizing projects that are entertaining but also have a high quality.--[[User:Daanschr|Daanschr]] 16:35, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::'' Research requires lots of time and could require lots of material which will all cost money.''  ---- Research in mathematics and theoretical physics cost nothing more than time, food and coffee.----[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]-[[User talk:hillgentleman|User talk]] 02:36, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:You are right, research doesn't necessarily cost money. However, research does require commitment. It will be very hard to get this commitment from a volunteer organization as Wikiversity, because real life universities get money to do research or to teach students. The asset of Wikiversity is that it is a global interlingual organization that could be supported by traditional organizations like universities. Perhaps this is not the best article to come up with this point, as it is about research guidelines.--[[User:Daanschr|Daanschr]] 07:53, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

===Research process===
The research process as a whole does move towards objectivity, but objectivity is a construct that is generated by special social processes. Not all of the individual components of the research process are objective. Research starts with the thoughts and actions of individuals which are by definition highly subjective. The entire research process typically involves cycles of subjective claims and peer review in what could be called the &quot;research cycle&quot;. Subjective observations, claims, and ideas that repeatedly survive challenge, tests and peer review can result in increasingly high levels of objectivity about a topic of study.

The neutral point of view (NPOV) policy that has been adopted by previous Wikimedia Foundation projects arose from the need to prevent original research activities and unpublished results from disrupting wiki projects. If Wikiversity is going to allow participants to include original research activities and results in Wikiversity then we need to modify the traditional NPOV policy. The research process often starts by a single person or a small group of like-minded individuals adopting a minority Point Of View and audaciously pushing that POV, even in the face of disbelief and active opposition from the those who hold a more conventional POV, often one held to be true by the majority of investigators in a field of study.

Wiki software is a tool that promotes collaborative authoring of webpages. Each wiki community decides what the rules are that best support the mission of the wiki. Most wikis restrict the editing of at least some pages. The early stages of the &quot;research cycle&quot; often involve the production of idiosyncratic and personalized texts that introduce new ideas to the community. The novel ideas expressed in the initial stages of the &quot;research cycle&quot; are then subjected to review. The typical wiki method of peer review often involves erasing the work of earlier contributors, in particularly, contributions that do not conform to conventional thinking about a topic are likely to be removed from wiki pages during the collaborative editing process. Such conventional wiki editing would be a problem for a wiki that is trying to support original research and the creation of new knowledge.

In the &quot;research cycle&quot;, a standard alternative to &quot;wiki peer review&quot; is a system for &quot;formal peer review&quot;. Formal peer review is usually a highly structured and formal &quot;dialog&quot; between reviewers and the authors of documents reporting original research. In this &quot;dialog&quot;, nothing is erased. In fact, even if a new idea is wrong, the identification of incorrect ideas is still important, and keeping a record of wrong ideas is useful for preventing others from repeating errors. This kind of &quot;dialog&quot; and a system for not ever erasing text is what usually happens on MediaWiki discussion pages. It would be possible to construct a formal peer review system in wiki format ([http://academia.wikia.com see]).

If Wikiversity is going to be a place for, &quot;conducting research and publishing results (within a policy framework developed by the community)&quot; then we need to develop new policies that truly support research, not just adopt a set of rules that were developed for another wiki project and that would cripple research. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 01:34, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

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==Ethics==

All research must be ethical. If you are deceiving, harming or using data without consent, that research project should not be posted on Wikiversity. Ethics also includes the preservation of raw data, and not covering inappropriate topics (discuss.)

If you use other people's work, research or data as a basis or starting point for your own research, be sure to verify your sources, as well as adhering to Wikiversity's [[Project:Copyrights|copyright policies]].

==See also==
*[[Wikiversity talk:Scope of research/En|Scope of research]] - English language discussions

==External links==
*[http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Scholarly_ethics Scholarly ethics] - at the English language Wikiversity
*[http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Research_Ethics Research Ethics] - at the English language Wikiversity
*[http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Original_reporting Original reporting] - guidelines at Wikinews</text>
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維基學院容許 :
*產生(未正式發表的)新知識的文獻回顧(屬''次生研究'');
*維基學院內, 使用文獻回顧外之研究方法 之研究計劃(屬''原創研究'');
*有維基學院之外的研究員參與的合作研究計劃.


'''原創研究''' 包括提出假說, 會集原始資料, 分析資料, 評估做法. '''次生研究'''是關於一結果的新解釋, 或關於分析的新討論, 引入新理論但不引入新原始資料。

這些指引分成二主題: [[#客觀|客觀]], [[#操守|操守]].

==客觀==

Wikiversity內所張貼的研究應該以科學方法來進行，文章應包括未刪改的原始數據。

Original research should be conducted with a neutral point of view, and with a view to accept the outcome of your analysis, whatever that may be. You should propose a hypothesis, and obtain the results to prove or disprove your hypothesis. However, there is a difference between proving a hypothesis and manipulating results. You should conduct research to find out what the results are, not to prove yourself right (or someone else wrong).

維基學院作為一維基, 任何人都能編輯您在此之任何發表. You must be prepared for others to edit or add to your work, otherwise Wikiversity is the wrong platform for it. However, if other people do contribute, be aware that those details may not be accurate or even true. Wikiversity is open to the general public, not just degree students or qualified teachers. In the same manner, do not entirely disregard any opinions because they contradict yours, but discuss and build upon them.

===研究過程===
The research process as a whole does move towards objectivity, but objectivity is a construct that is generated by special social processes. Not all of the individual components of the research process are objective. Research starts with the thoughts and actions of individuals which are by definition highly subjective. The entire research process typically involves cycles of subjective claims and peer review in what could be called the &quot;research cycle&quot;. Subjective observations, claims, and ideas that repeatedly survive challenge, tests and peer review can result in increasingly high levels of objectivity about a topic of study.

The neutral point of view (NPOV) policy that has been adopted by previous Wikimedia Foundation projects arose from the need to prevent original research activities and unpublished results from disrupting wiki projects. If Wikiversity is going to allow participants to include original research activities and results in Wikiversity then we need to modify the traditional NPOV policy. The research process often starts by a single person or a small group of like-minded individuals adopting a minority Point Of View and audaciously pushing that POV, even in the face of disbelief and active opposition from the those who hold a more conventional POV, often one held to be true by the majority of investigators in a field of study.

Wiki software is a tool that promotes collaborative authoring of webpages. Each wiki community decides what the rules are that best support the mission of the wiki. Most wikis restrict the editing of at least some pages. The early stages of the &quot;research cycle&quot; often involve the production of idiosyncratic and personalized texts that introduce new ideas to the community. The novel ideas expressed in the initial stages of the &quot;research cycle&quot; are then subjected to review. The typical wiki method of peer review often involves erasing the work of earlier contributors, in particularly, contributions that do not conform to conventional thinking about a topic are likely to be removed from wiki pages during the collaborative editing process. Such conventional wiki editing would be a problem for a wiki that is trying to support original research and the creation of new knowledge.

In the &quot;research cycle&quot;, a standard alternative to &quot;wiki peer review&quot; is a system for &quot;formal peer review&quot;. Formal peer review is usually a highly structured and formal &quot;dialog&quot; between reviewers and the authors of documents reporting original research. In this &quot;dialog&quot;, nothing is erased. In fact, even if a new idea is wrong, the identification of incorrect ideas is still important, and keeping a record of wrong ideas is useful for preventing others from repeating errors. This kind of &quot;dialog&quot; and a system for not ever erasing text is what usually happens on MediaWiki discussion pages. It would be possible to construct a formal peer review system in wiki format ([http://academia.wikia.com see]).

If Wikiversity is going to be a place for, &quot;conducting research and publishing results (within a policy framework developed by the community)&quot; then we need to develop new policies that truly support research, not just adopt a set of rules that were developed for another wiki project and that would cripple research. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 01:34, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

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==操守==

All research must be ethical. If you are deceiving, harming or using data without consent, that research project should not be posted on Wikiversity. Ethics also includes the preservation of raw data, and not covering inappropriate topics (discuss.)

If you use other people's work, research or data as a basis or starting point for your own research, be sure to verify your sources, as well as adhering to Wikiversity's [[Project:Copyrights|copyright policies]].

== 參見, ==
*[[Wikiversity talk:Scope of research/En|Scope of research]] - English language discussions

==外連==
*[http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Scholarly_ethics Scholarly ethics] - at the English language Wikiversity
*[http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Research_Ethics Research Ethics] - at the English language Wikiversity
*[http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Original_reporting Original reporting] - guidelines at Wikinews


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==基本指引==
任何研究必須符合道德. If you are deceiving, harming or using data without consent, that research should not be published on Wikiversity. 

維基學院作為一維基, 任何人都能編輯您在此之任何發表. You must be prepared for others to edit or add to your work, otherwise Wikiversity is the wrong platform for it. However, if other people do contribute, be aware that those details may not be accurate or even true. Wikiversity is open to the general public, not just degree students or qualified teachers. In the same manner, do not entirely disregard any opinions because they contradict yours, but discuss and build upon them.

==原創與次生研究==
Original research proposes new ideas, contradicts accepted knowledge or confirms existing research. It includes unpublished facts, arguments, concepts, statements, or theories that promote a particular idea or theory. Also, any unpublished analysis, interpretation or synthesis of existing published material that appears to advance a position or point of view could be classed as research.

'''Original research''' is previously unpublished and containing new data that has been gathered. '''Secondary research''' is literature-based reviews of existing published research - using existing data to come to your own conclusions.

This is similar in concept to primary and secondary sources:
*Primary sources are gathered items of data and evidence, such as surveys, observations, historical documents or artefacts.
*Secondary sources are interpretations and explanations of information or data from other sources.

Original research uses primary sources, and secondary research is based on existing research.

If you use other people's work, research or data as a basis or starting point for your own research, be sure to verify your sources, as well as adhering to Wikiversity's [[Project:Copyrights|copyright policies]].

==中立==
Research should be conducted with a neutral point of view, and willingness to accept the outcome of your analysis. You should propose a hypothesis, and you should be enthusiastic to obtain the results. However, there is a difference between proving a hypothesis and manipulating results. You should conduct research to find out what the results are, not to prove yourself right.

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      <text xml:space="preserve">I feel that the discussion [[wikiversity:scope of research]] is entangled partly because one issue has not been clarified.  There are various ''modes of communications'' between people, according to their levels of understandings.  These different modes should be subjected to different standards.

Let us consider the communications amongst three groups of people: ''experts'', ''students'' and ''public''.

1.  Expert --&gt; expert:  conversations, letters(informal), seminars(semi-formal) research papers(formal), monographs

2.  Expert --&gt; student:  lectures, courses, surveys, textbooks, monographs

3. Student --&gt; expert: homework, questions

4. student--&gt;student: discussion, rough work sheets, etc

4+1/2. students &lt;--&gt; public: usually this doesn't happen

5. Expert--&gt;public:  public lectures, books, textbooks

6. public --&gt;expert: questions

These should belong to different places (e.g. wikipaedia, wikibooks, wikiversity, established journals) and subject to different standards.  For example, informal letters between experts may not be self-contained, comprehensible to few; yet we cannot ban it from wikiversity.  Similarly discussions between students may contain a lot of mistakes, yet they have their places too (albeit in a limited time interval).

There should be a discussion on the polices concerning these different ''modes of communications''.  So far I do not see one.  I would suggest at least three namespaces for them, '''roughworks''', '''letters''' and '''reports'''.  They are self-explanatory.  And to them we may add '''seminars'''.

[[User:Hillgentleman/on wiki publishing]]</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">==Modes of Communications==
My issue with this system is that you are purposely separating experts, students and the public. It seems to create an elitist situation, and have areas where the public are not welcome. Yes, I do see the advantages of having organised structures and methods of contacting people who know. However, how do we define who is an 'expert', and does an 11 year old schoolboy count as a student? Who would be permitted to post seminars or letters, what distinguishes these people? These are issues that would need to be resolved before this was implemented. Having said that, I do like the idea - there is a gap between informal discussion and formal 'published' works (there's that word again), and this is a step to bridging that gap. Methinks Wikiversity is heading in very good directions now.

Taking one of your ideas, would it not be a good idea simply to have Question&amp;Answer sessions? A topic (or lesson) would have a page for asking questions to anybody who could answer them (experts). That is very much like a University (asking your tutors), but really grasps the concept of everybody working together. Wikiversity is an active learning environment, and that gives the opportunity to those who know (who have learned) to teach other people. Personally, I'd find that a very useful environment to ask someone how to do something specific in PHP, or how would I go about solving some particularly difficult algreba. [[User:Xenon|Xenon]] 14:58, 20 October 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">==research cycle==
Hello.  
#Can you elaborate on what a ''research cycle'' involve?
#I would think that in one such cycle, there should be many different modes of communications (conversations, letters(informal), seminars(semi-formal) research papers(formal reports), (sometimes: monographs, textbook, lecture course,...) );  they should be subjected to different standards.  
#*So far the discussions on beta focus on the ''formal report'' phase; it seems to me that everything else has been assumed to be ''discussion'' and completely free.   But there are problems:  for example, a ''lecture course'' does not fit in either of the two categories.    
#*I have some thoughts [[User:Hillgentleman/modes of communications|here]].  Please tell me if I am mistaken.--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 04:14, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
:Thank you.   Do you plan to invite established schlars to participate in the review process? --[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 23:23, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

==Research==
In my mind, Research is the one interest that separates Wikiversity from the other projects. I know of no large website whose purpose it is to &quot;publish&quot; research. Most of the other academic content, such as encyclopaedic and textbook content can be found elsewhere within Wikimedia; and other possibilities such as tests can be found elsewhere online. This concept of unfinished research being posted out in the open for anybody to contribute is quite unique, and certainly useful. Wikipedia is now regarded as a definitive authority on most factual things, and I certainly refer to it daily. Think now to the day where Wikiversity is classed as the 'publisher' of revolutionary research and the foundation of great discoveries. I believe Wikiversity is an ideal platform for original research, especially that conducted by those who are not at academic institutions, and those who have no other method of letting the rest of the world know what they have found out.

Original research is an absolute ''must'' for Wikiversity, and I disagree with anybody who says that simply academic reference and structured lessons is enough for Wikiversity to succeed. The question should not be &quot;shall we allow research&quot;, but &quot;what can we do ''with'' that research&quot;. The research cycle you have mentioned is a good way to look at this. One person comes up with the initial idea for the research, perhaps a few people develop that idea (on Wikiversity or otherwise), a team of people conduct the research (gather the data) and post the results on Wikiversity (where they should be protected from any future edits), and everyone on Wikiversity is able to (or is invited to) analyse those results and draw conclusions.

Surely Wikiversity is the ideal platform for this form of original research, and we should do more than encourage it. I see no disadvantages to hosting research (whether approved by a Wikiversity committee or whatever). If there are, could you point them out? [[User:Xenon|Xenon]] ([[User talk:Xenon|talk]]) 18:20, 22 October 2006 (UTC)


:Glad to know that the discussion is not whether we should host collaborative research, but how we manage those activites. The obvious system would be to subject all completed research to an expert/admin-review process before it is protected and labelled approved. The issues with that are that it does not correct issues until the end process (which could take a while to repeat) and it still subjective on the basis of the expert/admin that reviews it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps a better procedure would be that similar to the vandalism/RfD system - simply allow members of the community to tag sections of the report as unfair (with a template+category), &lt;s&gt;allow&lt;/s&gt; encourage discussion of it, and allow corrections (and reversions) by custodians as normal. With research there is nothing to be gained by being neutral, since hypotheses and conclusions are the most important parts of the report - however there is a lot to gain by being objective. The actual collected data should be kept in a subpage and protected by a custodian as soon as it is there - that way neither the researcher or any malicious or well-intentioned editor has any chance to manipulate the data to push their agenda. That is one very specific guideline that can be enforced with minimum interference with the rest of the research. After the results have been gathered and posted, the rest of the report is an analysis of the results and evaluation of the procude.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If these measures are finalised and implemented, it protects the raw data, allows everybody to contribute, allows everybody to police and moderate the report, allows/encourages active discussion and participation and still allows enough control to ensure the objectivity of the report.- [[User:Xenon|Xenon]] ([[User talk:Xenon|talk]]) 21:35, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, and good point (x5). That page protection system is certainly a step in the right direction, although it does have a couple of issues where the raw data is involved - it can still give the creator (protector) the opportunity to change the results where neccessary (which is good) or for less fair POV-pushing reasons (which is less good). However, I overlooked the history tab, which is a straightforwad clear indication of what's been changed by who. There should be a notice at the top of the raw data page requesting users not to edit the data (except perhaps reformatting). Every now and again any user (eg the researcher or a custodian) could simply check the history and make sure it hasn't been changed. I do appreciate that most results manipulation would happen in the gathering stage, eg to forge a correlation where there is none, but the tag has its own benefits. Simply tagging and checking the history is a viable alternative to protection.

One other thing I suggest is having a Research: namespace, and with [*] permissions set to readonly. This rules out guests from creating/editing research, but the argument could be that if they do not have the time to devote to signing up, then they wouldn't have the time to devote to reading the entire report and making useful informed contributions to it. Again, that's a bit harsh but it's a possibility.

So for the peer review system, you are suggesting having referees as approved editors (with academic experience) who would (amongst other duties) formally review research reports and deal with anomalies and agenda-pushing? What stage of the process would this occur in, since it is 'cumbersome' to go through all the edits and figure out where somebody is being unfair? If there is no defined end to the process (or if it takes years) then surely that has to be conducted at regular intervals, or is when the referee happens by enough? Then again, surely anybody is entitled to their own point of view so long as they do not edit others POVs or vandalise (inc get aggressive)? Is there a need to restrict people from making their statement, in a way that custodians could not? The advantage of a referee would not be to judge who was right/wrong, but to judge who is being unfair and disrupting the report. That is quite a responsibility.

Results replication is important, we do need to be able to confirm or disprove research. As well as the procedural part of the report, the evaluation is important - it identifies mistakes and suggests improvements. The great thing about having a large not-necessarily-academic community is that other people can (and will) attempt to replicate experiments. The problem with that is the inclusion of sub-standard hap-hazard research, as well as completely biased studies done by inexperienced editors. I appreciate that the point of Wikiversity, as of Wikipedia, is to allow anybody with tiny scraps of knowledge to come together and collate that knowledge, but perhaps some form of peer-review process should be introduced at the other end of the research cycle? Should researchers have to submit hypotheses and an outlined procedure for approval before they proceed with the research, or at least before they can submit it? Either that or referees should have the &lt;s&gt;ability&lt;/s&gt; responsibility to weed out 'bad' projects and discuss them with their creator.

One final point I would like to introduce is the original researcher themselves - would the not have some say in closing the project (when they deem it complete)? Does the researcher (the data gatherer) have to remain to run the project? Could they not pass on responsibility for maintaining the report to a peer, friend or other editor? I believe someone who is passionate about that research should be on hand to maintain it, but need that be the original researcher? If the researcher leaves WV or if subsequent research has been conducted then the research should be marked as an archive. Of course discussion plays a big part in every step of this process, people asking for extra data, referees discussing POV-pushing, researchers deciding when/whether to archive or who to pass on responsibility to, even the analysis is a discussion of the results and the evaluation is a discussion of the procedure.

The referees would be a great asset, but what would be the selection criteria (beyond voting)?- [[User:Xenon|Xenon]] ([[User talk:Xenon|talk]]) 10:15, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

:Okay, you say that (some people think that) the main content of the Wiki (for which it was created) should be in the main namespace, with others used for organising that content, metadata and other associative but non-focal things. I'd be inclined to agree with that, although to me lessons and research are two ends of the scale. At one end, researchers are taking what they know, gathering data and ''creating'' knowledge; at the other, the people with that knowledge are  sharing it with others. Would this system benefit from their separation (as if they were in a separate wiki) or from them existing side by side? I don't think having a namespace for research would baffle people, its logical to me to use the prefixes (once they're introduced to the reader) and certainly isn't unneccessarily complicated. The benefits of having a namespace is the permissions-based editing. You suggest using Research: for the projects and collaboration, but I suppose that's nothing that couldn't be done from the main namespace. Unless we want permissions to be for the entire main namespace, I suggest we allow the separation. I don't agree with blurring the boundaries. On another note, should we have individual URM permissions for the researcher to be allowed to ''create'' pages in the Research: namespace?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, once research has been completed and peer-approved then it becomes knowledge. It is then useful for people to ''learn'' from, rather than put their knowledge in. Then it is something that should be in the main namespaces. Once research is &quot;complete&quot;, it has no need for a collaborative process, and the discussion available in the main namespace is enough. Alongside the occasional checking of the report, the main function of the &quot;Referees&quot; would be to approve completed reports and move them to the main namespace, adding an &quot;approved research&quot; template (with category_) and perhaps archiving discussion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for &quot;Referee&quot;, it is an appropriate title, although perhaps being a member of a panel of referees (research committee?) is a more accurate designation? They should undergo the same processes as requests for custodian action - you can request occasional checks of your research so far, and then submit the research for approval. The final approval should perhaps be done by a panel of three referees, requiring a unanimous rubber-stamp before its moved and tagged. That process would also work for submitting approval before commencing research. As for selection of referees, I'd trust the custodian selection system. Don't worry, I'll stop using up so much of your talk page soon :-) - [[User:Xenon|Xenon]] ([[User talk:Xenon|talk]]) 19:46, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

==The ''discussion page'' for [[Wikiversity:Research guidelines]] ==
Hello.  Is the page [[wikiversity:scope of research]] the discussion page for [[wikiversity:research guidelines]]?  If it is so, we should be the fact clear.--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 18:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">Since

1. In principle, the results of every study must ultimately be ''communicated'' to the public (or be applied, which is about the same);

2. ''Established journals'' serve the above purpose because the public believe their credibility;

The question arises, that ''in which role does '''wiki-publishing''' serve in the research process''?

Two answers come to mind:
#Wiki-publications should become part of the ''established'' community, by
##recruiting well-known academic faculties;
##serving first as a pre-print archive for the established journals;
#Wiki-publications should stay in the fringe, and remain as a trouve of serious but controversial materials, waiting to be reaccessed in newer lights, and either communicated to the public or refuted by more accurate data, information or knowledge.

http://academia.wikia.org is a wiki-publisher. Which role it is going to play is unclear to me.  Can anybody tell me?</text>
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      <comment>comment on the role of wiki publishing</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">I think we should experiment with systems for formally peer-reviewed publishing in wiki format. Time will tell if it becomes useful. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 17:53, 21 October 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">Why has [[Wikiversity:Babel]] got a multilingual header yet it does not user the beta multilingual system?[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]</text>
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==2006-9-3 – 英文維基學院報告 ==
:(You can watch a [http://web.mac.com/johnwschmidt/iWeb/Wikiversity/Wikiversity%20Podcasts/4C5FA8A7-1580-4F13-9D8F-CD0712419C65.html podcast] version of this report; see [[:en:Introduction to GarageBand#Sample podcast|detailed instructions]])
*[[:en:Main Page|英文維基學院]] 2006-8-15 開始六個月beta 階段.
*[[:en:Wikiversity:Approved Wikiversity project proposal|維基學院計劃提案l]] was approved by the [http://wikimediafoundation.org 維基媒體基金會] Board of Trustees and announced at  [http://wikimania2006.wikimedia.org/wiki/Opening_Plenary_%28transcript%29#Wikiversity_.2826:35.29 Wikimania 2006].
*Wikiversity had previously been under development at [http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikiversity Wikibooks]. Many of the Wikiversity webpages from Wikibooks (example: [http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Wikiversity_Schools Wikiversity Schools]) have been imported to the new Wikiversity website (example: [[:en:Wikiversity:Schools|Wikiversity Schools]]).
*A few policies have already been adopted including [[:en:Wikiversity:Assume Good Faith|Assume Good Faith]], [[:en:Wikiversity:Civility|Civility]] and [[:en:Wikiversity:Be bold|Be bold]]. Some ideas have been produced for how to allow original research at Wikiversity (see: [[:en:Wikiversity:Review board|Review board]]), but discussion of research policy will take place at the Wikiversity beta website (see: [[Wikiversity:Scope of research|Scope of research]]. Other proposed policies include:
** Using the term &quot;[[:en:Wikiversity:Custodianship|custodian]]&quot; to refer to Wikiversity sysops.
** [[:en:Wikiversity:Disclosures|Disclosures]], a modification to the traditional Wikimedia [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/NPOV NPOV] policy which would allow Wikiversity to have scholarly webpages that adopt a biased point of view.
** A [[:en:Wikiversity:Scholarly ethics|Scholarly ethics]] policy that would define high standards of Wikiversity scholarship. It is proposed that high standards of scholarly ethics can guide Wikiversity participants who edit webpages that adopt a biased point of view. The standards of scholarly ethics can also be applied to original research at Wikiversity.
*The Board of Trustees [[:en:Wikiversity:Original proposal#Evaluation of the old proposal|instructed]] that the Wikiversity project proposal not include conventional courses. To replace courses, the [[:en:Portal:Education|Wikiversity e-learning model]] includes the idea of [[:en:Wikiversity:Learning#Learning groups|learning groups]] that collaborate on [[:en:Portal:Learning Projects|learning projects]].

== 2006-8-28– 德文維基學院報告 ==
As Rayc asked how the two wikiversities compare, I would like to give you some information about the things going on at de.wikiversity:
* We completely restarted the project on August, 26 with a team of three experienced users coming from the german wikimedia community. During the last four days more than thirty new user accounts were created. Most of them by wikimedians already active in the german wikipedia and wikisource projects.
* Actually the [[:de:Fachbereich Geschichte|department of history]] is the most active of our ten departments (in german: ''Fachbereiche''). Somewhat away from conventional universities we invited users to create new departments like &quot;Department of virtual construction of knowledge&quot; (''Fachbereich Virtuelle Wissenskonstruktion''), founded on the german Wikiversity by a professor at the university of Eichstätt-Ingolstadt in Bavaria.
* We have two research projects, one dealing with the edition of a manuscript from the 16th century (which is being transcribed on the german Wikisource), and another one which is underway to do some oral history about the daily life in the city of Hamburg during the last year of World War II (interviews with contemporary witnesses).
* Yesterday a course on palaeography (in close cooperation with the german wikisource) started. Most of the course participants are Wikisourcians who want to improve their ability to read old manuscripts.
So far for today. Warm greetings from the german Wikiversity --[[User:Frank Schulenburg|Frank Schulenburg]] 11:33, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

== 2006-9-5 西班牙文維基學院==
As some of you may know, the Spanish Wikiversity was very active before the project was oficially approved by the Board, especially at the end of 2004. You may check [http://es.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Especial%3AAllpages&amp;from=&amp;namespace=102 in this link] that there around 200 or 300 pages in the namespace &quot;Wikiversidad&quot; of Spanish Wikibooks. Specially active was a group on Chemistry. Unfortunately, the uncertain future of the project and the long time it took to get approved, made the most active members to go away, and now Spanish Wikiversity has no activity. Only irregular small editions. 

I'm trying to get in contact with those who participated but is not easy: many of them were not or are not anymore in any other Wikimedia project, and there is no way to send them emails.

Due to the huge amount of Wikiversity pages in the Spanish domain of Wikibooks, it is not very encouraging to bring all that to v:Beta if soon afterwards we have to move it again to v:es: It doesn´t really make much sense.

That's why Spanish Wikiversity content will stay in b:es, (unless somebody wants to work hard on the moving).

And that was all. If someone is interested on relaunching the Spanish project, I would like to help you. Please, contact me [http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario_Discusi%C3%B3n:Javier_Carro in this link], thanks.

[[Category:Wikiversity|Reports]]
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      <comment>edit-ive changed my opinion</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Babel|cs|en-3|es-3|it-2|ru-1}}

My name is '''Juan''' and I am also known as [http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedista:Juan_de_Vojn%C3%ADkov Juan de Vojníkov]. My attempt is to establish '''Czech Wikiversity'''. 

== Feature Catcher ==
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      <comment>wiki language link</comment>
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      <comment>/* Un exemple de ''[http://fr.wikibooks.org/wiki/CMC/4%C3%A8me/Projet_d%27apprentissage_en_quatri%C3%A8me|projet d'apprentissage]]'' */</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">==[[Wikipedia:fr:Utilisateur:Nicostella|Visiter ma page wikipédia]]==

==Essai : [[User:Nicostella/A propos de la wikiversité]]==
==Un exemple de ''[http://fr.wikibooks.org/wiki/CMC/4%C3%A8me/Projet_d%27apprentissage_en_quatri%C3%A8me projet d'apprentissage]''==</text>
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      <comment>[[User:Nicostella/A propos de la wikiversité]] moved to [[Wikiversité/À propos de la Wikiversité]]: hop</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">==A propos de la wikiversité==
La wikiversité est un wiki où les participants collaborent pour développer des pages web.
===Qu’est ce qu’un projet d’apprentissage ?===
L’unité de base de la wikiversité est le projet d’apprentissage. On peut le comparer à une unité d’enseignement à l’université : il comporte :
*un thème
*des objectifs ou un programme correspondant à un niveau d’étude ou de difficulté
*des professeurs volontaires
*des étudiants volontaires
*un « lieu » : la page web du projet d’apprentissage
Cette page web est le contenu visible et concret du projet d’apprentissage,  un environnement intéressant pour atteindre les objectifs des participants. 
===Où sont les cours ?===
La wikiversité développe, héberge et renvoie à différents types de ressources intégrées dans les projets d’apprentissage. Elle s’organise autour de communautés regroupées sur un sujet commun particulier. C’est un endroit où ces groupes peuvent se retrouver pour apprendre ensemble,  trouver des ressources sur les projets wikipédia et wikilivres.
===Qui sont les professeurs de la wikiversité ?===
Il ne s’agit pas d’une université conventionnelle : les participants peuvent être étudiants et professeurs. Tout le monde peut apprendre quelque chose à quelqu’un d’autre.</text>
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      <comment>[[User:Nicostella/A propos de la wikiversité]] moved to [[Wikiversité/À propos de la Wikiversité]]: hop</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">#REDIRECT [[Wikiversité/À propos de la Wikiversité]]</text>
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    <title>User talk:Juan</title>
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      <contributor>
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      <comment>typo</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve"> If you wanna contact me, do that via '''Czech Wikipedia''' account here: [http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedista_diskuse:Juan_de_Vojn%C3%ADkov Juan de Vojníkov discussion].</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">Voir [http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:SoLune ma page Wikipédia] (pour l'instant).</text>
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    <title>User:JmG/Apprentissage</title>
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      <minor />
      <comment>citer des sources</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">== Introduction ==
Le matériel pédagogique disponible sur la Wikiversity peut être utilisé comme contenu à part entière ou pour être utilisé comme un élément d'un cours non Wikiversity.

== Apprentissage par expérience == 
* Tout le monde participe
* Chacun apporte sa propre expérience dans l'environnement d'apprentissage
* Tout le monde alimente la base d'éléments d'instruction tout en l'utilisant (notion de [[w:instructional scaffolding|instructional scaffolding]] : échafaudage de contenu )
* cycle réflexif (en gardant des traces dans un journal par exemple)
* Voir [[wikipedia:fr:John Dewey]][http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Democracy_and_Education], [[wikipedia:fr:Lev Vygotsky]][http://www2.cddc.vt.edu/marxists/archive/vygotsky/index.htm], [[wikipedia:fr:Jean Piaget]][http://marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/fr/piaget2.htm], [[wikipedia:fr:Kurt Lewin]][http://www.infed.org/thinkers/et-lewin.htm] ... (quels liens en français ?)

=== Apprendre par l'action ===
Le processus pour ''apprendre réellement sur Wikiversity'' se fait principalement par l'expérience - &quot;apprentissage par l'action&quot; ou apprentissage par l'expérience&quot;. Editer un wiki est un processus actif, participatif, mettant en oeuvre des actions (éditer, corriger, mettre en évidence) et la réflexion (par discussion). Les activités d'apprentissage ''au sein de la Wikiversity'' doivent se concentrer autour du potentiel basé sur '''wiki'''et se baser sur le processus collaboratif, communautaire. Voir les informations sur l'apprentissage en groupe ci dessous.

=== Apprendre ensemble===

==Pensée critique==
* la capacité d'analyser de manière critique les informations, les croyance, y compris ses propres croyances
: Media 113[http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Media113]
* une compétence clé dans tous les domaines de la vie [http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Thinking_And_Moral_Problems]
* Commun à de nombreux programmes de formation : éducation civique, littérature ...

==Groupes d'apprentissage==
&lt;small&gt;(Ce contenu est issu de la [[Wikiversity:Wikiversity project proposal|proposition de projet Wikiversity]])&lt;/small&gt;
* Un groupe d'apprentissage peut construire un cours collectivement basé sur des lectures communes (choisies ensemble). c'est un moyen de mettre en évidence les points clés de ce qu'ils ont appris. Cela peut ressembler à une prise de notes d'étudiants dans une université classsique. Ces notes peuvent ensuite servir de base pour réutiliser cette connaissance et l'appliquer à l'amélioration d'articles Wikipedia ou à l'écriture de Wikibooks. D'un autre point de vue, le groupe peut se rencontrer sur un chat (ou toute autre forme de réunion). Il est aussi possible d'utiliser d'autres  supports pour construire un cours.
* Ils peuvent collectivement s'assigner des tâches pour améliorer leur compréhension du matériel et contribuer à la communauté Wikimedia.

=== Citer ses sources ===
Plusieurs projets Wikimedia, spécialemement  [[fr:Accueil|Wikipedia]], se doivent de citer leurs sources [[w:Citez vos sources |citer leurs sources]]. les groupes d'apprentissages de la Wikiversité peuvent étuder ces sources et apprendre aux utilisateurs/ participants à les citer.</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">User: Ivanka Kirilova
E-mail:iva_kirilova@abv.bg
Topic: Children interests
Statement: The children around the world have common interests in education. If we find them we can organise the education according to students needs, interests and aspirations. Learning will become more attractive and fascinating activity, no matter where you study or what is the subject.</text>
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      <contributor>
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      <comment>Do you think it is wise to put your exact electronic address in public?</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">Hello, Iva Kirilova.  Do you think it is wise to put your exact electronic address in public?  --[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 02:09, 7 November 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <comment>日付</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;background-color: #fcfcfc; margin: 0; border: 1px solid #DEDED3; padding: 7px 7px 0px 7px;  -moz-border-radius:5px&quot;&gt;
	&lt;div style=&quot;margin: 0; padding: -27px 0 0 0; float: right; font-size: 100%; text-align: right; line-height: 135%;&quot;&gt;{{ #time: Y年n月j日 }}（{{ #switch: {{ #time: w }}
|0=日
|1=月
|2=火
|3=水
|4=木
|5=金
|6=土
}}）&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin: 5px; text-align: center; font-size:18px; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif;&quot;&gt;ウィキバーシティ・ベータへようこそ&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;center&gt;{{main page}}&lt;/center&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;center&gt;&lt;big&gt;
ウィキポータル:
&lt;br&gt;[[Portal:工学|工学]]
- [[Portal:数学|数学]]
- [[Portal:生命科学|生命科学]]
- [[Portal:理学|理学]]
- [[Portal:人文科学|人文科学]]
- [[Portal:社会科学|社会科学]]
- [[Portal:応用芸術科学|応用芸術科学]]
- [[Portal:学際|学際]]
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/center&gt;&lt;/big&gt;
{{Frame|Wikiversity:Announcements/En}}__NOTOC__
==ウィキバーシティ・ベータとは何か？==

このプロジェクトは、すべてのウィキバーシティ・プロジェクトを調整することを目的としているグローバル・プラットフォームです。この'''[[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/Ja|多言語間の調整]]'''は、ウィキバーシティの[[Wikiversity:Mission|ミッション]]とプロジェクトの範囲の一般的なガイドライン（たとえば、オリジナル・リサーチについて）に対処しなければなりません。

ウィキバーシティ・ベータは、独立していない様々な言語のウィキバーシティのインキュベィターでもあります。これまで[[:en:Wikiversity:Main Page|英語版]]、[[:de:Hauptseite|ドイツ語版]]、[[:es:Portada|スペイン語版]]が[[Wikiversity:separate projects|独立したプロジェクト]]になっています。[[Wikiversity:Reports/En|独立したプロジェクトからのニュース]]をご覧ください。

'''もし、新しいウィキバーシティを立ち上げたければ'''、その言語のプロジェクトに取り組む気がある10人のアクティヴな参加者がいなければなりません。この人数になると、立ち上げるための新しい言語のドメインを（メタで）[[m:Requests for new languages#Requests for Wikiversity Languages|リクエスト]]することができます。その間に、あなたのプロジェクトのメイン・ページを[[Template:Main page]]に加えてください。

''[[Help:FAQ/En|よくある質問]]を見るのもいいかもしれません。''

==ガイドライン==
''すべての言語のプロジェクトに当てはまる私たちの国際的なガイドラインを展開（し翻訳）するのを手伝ってください。''
*[[Wikiversity:Scope of research/En|リサーチの範囲]] - ウィキバーシティは[[Wikiversity:Original research/En|オリジナル・リサーチ]]を含めた様々なリサーチを認めたほうがよいですか？
*[[Wikiversity_talk:Research guidelines/En|リサーチ・ガイドライン]] - ハイ・クウォリティで学術的な研究活動だけが行われるのを保証するのに、どのようなルールが必要ですか？

==進行中==
*[[m:Talk:Www.wikiversity.org template|メタ]]で私たちの多言語ポータル(http://www.wikiversity.org) を展開してください。
*私たちの現在の[[m:Wikiversity/logo|ロゴの投票]]と[[:en:Wikiversity:Motto_contest|モットー・コンテスト]]に参加してください。

&lt;br clear=&quot;both&quot; /&gt;
{{Sisterprojects}}
{{Main page interwikis}}</text>
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      <contributor>
        <username>Bastique</username>
        <id>134</id>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">Contact me at [[Commons:User talk:Bastique|Bastique]]</text>
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    <title>User:Bastique</title>
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      <contributor>
        <username>Bastique</username>
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      <comment>redirect</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">#REDIRECT[[User talk:Bastique]]</text>
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    <title>Wikiversity:建校問題</title>
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      <contributor>
        <username>Hillgentleman</username>
        <id>30</id>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;small&gt; &lt;[[首頁]] &lt;/small&gt;

此頁主持建立中文 wikiversity 計劃各基本問題之討論。
請在'''討論頁'''詳細討論, 並在以下[[#討論摘要]]部寫一摘要 (猶如 beta 的多語言討論系統).

This page hosts the basic issues for setting up a wikiversity project in Chinese.
Please discuss in detail on the discussion page, and write a summary below, under the heading &quot;討論摘要&quot; (similarly to the multi-lingual discussion system on Beta).

Cette page accueille les discussions sur les questions fondamentales pour installer un projet de wikiversity en Chinois.


==基本問題==
#[目的]我們建中文 wikiversity, [[Wikiversity 目標|目標]]是什麼? 維基學府可以向社會貢獻什麼? 維基學府可以向維基社群貢獻什麼?(參考 [[meta:wikiversity]],[[:en:Wikiversity:Approved_Wikiversity_project_proposal|已批准的wikiversity計劃提議]], [[:en:Wikiversity:Welcome, newcomers|English Wikiversity Welcome]], [[Help:FAQ/Zh]], [[:en:Wikiversity:mission]])
#[[中文校名]] (參考 #1, 及[[:wikipedia:zh:Wikipedia:投票/Wikiversity中文譯名|維基百科中之討論]])
# [環境和氣氛]:  如何創造如何創造有利學習研究的環境和氣氛?
# [[Wikiversity 架構]]--我們應否採用英文 Wikiversity 之院校/名空間 雙重架構 ?
# [內容]: 學習項目提議?
# [內容]: 維基課本,維基百科有無更適合 Wikiversity的內容?
# [政策] 譯[[Wikiversity:Approved_Wikiversity_project_proposal|wikiversity計劃提議]]
# [技術]:MediaWiki介面翻譯，現時中文介面的信息只停留在1.4版，實際介面翻譯率大約為[[meta:Localization statistics|37%]]。是否要展開介面翻譯工作？(參考[[:wikipedia:zh:Wikipedia:用戶介面翻譯|用戶介面翻譯]])
# [政策](初步?)討論代替 NPOV, NOR 等之政策 (參考[[:en:wikiversity:scholarly ethics|學者操守]], [[:en:Wikiversity:Disclosures]] (代替 NPOV); [[wikiversity:research guidelines]],[[wikiversity:scope of research]],[[:en:Category:research policy proposals]] (代替 NOR) )
#……可能还有很多

==討論摘要==
詳細討論在'''[[Talk:建校問題|討論頁]]'''.
#Aleksejevski对建校问题的意见: 目的, 架构 ---&gt; (討論頁 / discussion page / page de discussion)
#[學習項目]: 數學物理研討會?
# 人文學院

==現階段準備工作==
# 請翻譯術語, 政策與計劃頁成中文 (參考 [[:en:Wikiversity:Policies]])
#*[[Wikiversity:Research/Zh]]
#*[[Wikiversity:Original research/Zh]]
#*[[Wikiversity:Secondary research/Zh]]
#*[[wikiversity:Scope of research/Zh]]
#*[[wikiversity:research guidelines/Zh]]
#*[[Wikiversity:Approved Wikiversity project proposal/Zh]]
#維基太學標誌顏色 [[meta:wikiversity/logo]]

==參與者报名==
#[[User:許胖|許胖]] 舉雙手
#[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 04:27, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
#--[[User:Aleksejevski|&lt;font color=&quot;blue&quot;&gt;&lt;big&gt;Алексеевски&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]]  [[User_talk:Aleksejevski|&lt;sup&gt;Talk to me&lt;/sup&gt;]] 13:42, 10 November 2006 (UTC) 我愿意参与
#[[User:Tszkin|Tszkin]] 16:20, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
#--'''[[User:Tingo|七喜]]''' [[User Talk:Tingo|进七喜屋喝一杯]] 04:52, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
#--支持--[[User:Sterrys|Sterrys]] 02:54, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
#--[[User:Lecter|Lecter]] [[User_talk:Lecter|Talk]] 20:45, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
#--[[User:Itsmine|Itsmine]] 07:30, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
#--我可以帮忙翻译以及筹办化学部分，[[User:人神之间|人神之间]] 09:25, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
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==参考==
*[[首頁]]
*[[wikiversity:討論會‎|討論會‎]]
*[[meta:talk:wikiversity/Archive 2#Let´s organize the Wikiversity]]
*[[Wikiversité]]
*[[:en:Wikiversity:Naming conventions]]

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    <title>Wikiversity talk:建校問題</title>
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      <comment>[[Talk:建校問題]] moved to [[Wikiversity talk:建校問題]]: namespace</comment>
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術語:
*[[:en:Wikiversity:Custodianship|Custodian]]--&gt;?
**这个字可以翻译成“管理人”。--[[User:Aleksejevski|&lt;font color=&quot;blue&quot;&gt;&lt;big&gt;Алексеевски&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]]  [[User_talk:Aleksejevski|&lt;sup&gt;Talk to me&lt;/sup&gt;]] 09:24, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
*[[:en:wikiversity:colloquium|colloquium]]--&gt;?
**这个字可以翻译成“讨论会”。--[[User:Aleksejevski|&lt;font color=&quot;blue&quot;&gt;&lt;big&gt;Алексеевски&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]]  [[User_talk:Aleksejevski|&lt;sup&gt;Talk to me&lt;/sup&gt;]] 09:24, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
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==1. Aleksejevski对建校问题的意见==
首先，我们建立这所网络上的自由的大学的目的是为了让更多人学习到更多知识（这有点像维基百科），并且给大家一个'''研究的平台'''。根据维基百科的规定，维基百科是不能写一些个人的研究成果、结论的（除非你的观点被权威的专家认可）；然而维基大学是一所给大家畅所欲言、发表各位“学生”、“导师”、“教授”的观点、想法的地方，就像研究所一样（当然，这些都是关于他们的研究课题的，毕竟这是大学）。这就是维基大学成立的原因。

至于架构，这是一个比较复杂的问题。我个人的意见是仿照现在的大学的模式，分成一个个学院，然后按照研究的点分成一个个系。我想这样会使这所“大学”更名副其实。

That's my own opinion.--[[User:Aleksejevski|&lt;font color=&quot;blue&quot;&gt;&lt;big&gt;Алексеевски&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]]  [[User_talk:Aleksejevski|&lt;sup&gt;Talk to me&lt;/sup&gt;]] 14:01, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

补充：每一个参与这个计划的人都可以是“学生”、“导师”、或者“教授”，正如子曰：“三人行，必有我师焉。”但是要注意的是，维基大学不是一所'''真正的大学'''，是'''不会'''给予任何人文凭或职位的，而职称（比如“''教授''”、“''导师''”）可以颁发，不过这个职称'''应该''' ''（不排除有此可能）''不会被社会承认的。--[[User:Aleksejevski|&lt;font color=&quot;blue&quot;&gt;&lt;big&gt;Алексеевски&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]]  [[User_talk:Aleksejevski|&lt;sup&gt;Talk to me&lt;/sup&gt;]] 09:21, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:給予職稱問題較複雜. 可限於特定科目，例如：愛因斯坦--物理導師，音樂學生。--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]-[[User talk:hillgentleman|User talk]] 09:49, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

:Aleksejevski, 同意!但補充: Wikiverity 參加者不必是大學生.--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 05:26, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
::是“大学生”，是维基大学的学生。当然，正如英文版说的那样，维基大学是不会颁发文凭的。--[[User:Aleksejevski|&lt;font color=&quot;blue&quot;&gt;&lt;big&gt;Алексеевски&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]]  [[User_talk:Aleksejevski|&lt;sup&gt;Talk to me&lt;/sup&gt;]] 09:21, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
::中文wikibooks都还没有什么人气，做这个太早了一点吧？--[[User:210.72.12.70|210.72.12.70]] 07:56, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
:::*User:210.72.12.70: 請解釋何謂&quot;做这个&quot;. 現在是為wikiversity擬定研究政策的關鍵時期. 中文維基社群應該參與。請註冊.--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 08:47, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
:例: 中學生可以使用維基學園援助他的自習或開始研究; 大學生可以向世界上所有專家發問, 並且運用維基資源發展研究計劃. 研究員可以使用維基學園相互聯絡, 引發新合作計劃.--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 05:21, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

==2.學習項目: 數學物理研討會?==
*我專業數學、業餘興趣物理. 有無物理學人有興趣研討?--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 02:58, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

==3. 人文學院 ==
*我專精領域是社會科學，尤其是政治學，經濟學、哲學、社會學、和心理學也學過，如果中文維基大學真能順利開跑，我相信我能保持[[Portal:人文學院|人文學院]]的運作。[[User:Lecter|Lecter]] [[User_talk:Lecter|Talk]] 20:43, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

*我善於揉和各中文維基內容及教科書(目前為國中 所以以國中教科書為準)，說出話來見笑見笑，也請各大大指正 [[User:許胖|許胖]]</text>
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      <comment>Made by [[User:Aepex]] and modified by (JOhn Schmidt) for Wikiversity.

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      <text xml:space="preserve">Made by [[User:Aepex]] and modified by (JOhn Schmidt) for Wikiversity.

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      <comment>Made by  (John Schmidt) for Wikiversity.

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      <text xml:space="preserve">Made by  (John Schmidt) for Wikiversity.

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    <title>Wikiversity:架構</title>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;small&gt;&lt;[[首頁]]&lt;/small&gt;

[[Image:Schooldivdeptstructure.png|thumb|right|250px|Wikiversity 院系(schools) 與學習主題(topics)架構. 院系少而主題多 .  [[:en:Wikiversity:Namespaces|Topic: namespace]]中一頁可稱'''部門'''(department/division), '''中心'''(''centre''), '''所'''(institute), '''區'''(area)等.]]
[[Image:Namespacehierarchy.png|thumb|right|250px|Wikiversity namespace 架構. 一'''系'''(''school'')可屬於幾'''院'''(''faculty'').一(學習)項目(''learning project'')可屬於幾'''部門'''.]]

此頁討論中文 Wikiversity 架構.
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*我們應否採用英文 Wikiversity 之院校/Namespace 雙重架構 ? 
*我們應否採用英文 Wikiversity 之 [[:en:Wikiversity:Custodianship|Custodianship]]?
*有無需要(自願)分類用戶成導師與學生? ( 參考: [[:en:User:Cormaggio/Issues for Wikiversity]], [http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikiversity-l/2006-October/000095.html])
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*當前英文Wikiversity之 Namespaces:
*'''Wikiversity:'''
*'''Main:''' 主空間(無標題), 一般內容頁
*'''Portal:''' 有二用：主要(大) portals 類似＂院＂; 一般(小) portals 類似維基百科主題頁 (參考[[:en:Wikiversity:Major portals]])
*'''Topic:''' 是wikiversity 新引進的，類似維基百科 &quot;wikiproject&quot; 頁, 主持內容發展，本身沒有內容, 亦可作為研究學習小組主頁
*'''School:''' 亦是wikiversity 新引進的, 類似維基百科 &quot;wikiproject&quot; 頁, 可想像成一般大學的院系(參考[[:en:Wikiversity:Schools]])
*'''User:'''
*'''Image:'''
*'''Mediawiki:'''
*'''Template:'''
*'''Category:'''
*'''Help:'''
*'''Talk:'''

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用語(?):
*(名空間: = 概念 ---&gt; 類似)
*'''''Major'' Portal:''' = Faculty --&gt;院
*'''School:''' --&gt;系
*'''Topic:''' --&gt; 部/研究小組
*Learning project--&gt; (學習)項目
*Lesson ---&gt; 課(?)
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'''主名空間內容的組織:'''
*'''概念:''' 院 -&gt; 系-&gt; 部/研究主題 -&gt; 課 
*'''名空間: '''Portal:- &gt; School:- &gt; Topic:- &gt; 主空間(無標題)
例: [[Portal:工學院]] --&gt;[[School:計算機]] ---&gt; [[Topic:软件]] ---&gt; [[Topic:量子計算]] --&gt; [[量子位元]]

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參考:
*[[:en:Wikiversity:naming conventions]]
*[[:en:Wikiversity Talk:Namespaces]]
*[[:en:User:Cormaggio/Issues_for_Wikiversity]]
*[[:en:Talk:MediaWiki Project]]
*[[:en:wikiversity:colloquium#a justification for the &quot;School:&quot; and &quot;Topic:&quot; namespaces]] - (14 November 2006)
*[[:fr:Wikiversité:Conventions de nommage]]
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=== 中文 Chinese Wikiversity ===
*Since there is a substantial number of people taking part in the discussion in zh.wikipedia, I request to open the project of Chinese wikiversity.  --[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 04:51, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
==== Support ====

==== Oppose ====

==== Discussions ====
*參考: 
**http://beta.wikiversity.org/首頁
**[[:w:zh:Wikipedia:投票/Wikiversity中文譯名]]
**http://beta.wikiversity.org/建校問題

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      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/Ja]]</text>
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    <title>Wikiversity:Multilingualism/Ja</title>
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      <contributor>
        <username>ウィキミーディアン</username>
        <id>130</id>
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      <minor />
      <comment>[[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/En]]より。</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Wikiversity:Multilingualism}}
ウィキヴァースィティ・ベータは、複数の言語においてウィキバーシティ･プロジェクトを調整することを目的としているグローバル･プラットフォームです。その多くのメンバーのインプットから助けを得るために、ベータは効率的な多言語での議論システムをセット･アップしなければなりません。

==既存のシステム ==

多言語化はたいてい一方向の概念です。まず、英語のソース･ページがあります、そして、英語の読めない読者に理解できるようにするためにそれを翻訳します。このシステムの主な欠点は、英語を書けない人が議論に参加できないということです。彼らができることは翻訳されたものを受動的に読むことだけです。

ベータで議論される問題が、すべての言語のウィキヴァースィティにかかわるとき、すべてのプロジェクトからの参加者が意見を述べられることが必要です。

==提案されたシステム ==

''この提案についての議論はトーク・ページで歓迎されています。''

&lt;div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;width:50%;display:block;float:left;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion1.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''1''' - 新しい議論を始める参加者はそれについての短い要約を書いて、調整のマザーページのリンクを加えます。]]
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;width:49%;display:block;float:right;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion2.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''2''' - 翻訳者はほかの言語に要約を翻訳して、調整ページのリンクを加えます。]]
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;
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&lt;div style=&quot;width:50%;display:block;float:left;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion3.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''3''' - 各言語のトーク･ページで、議論をし、意見を述べ質問をします。彼らはこれを要約する短いパラグラフを書いて、新しいID番号で彼らの言語のサブページにそれを書きます。調整のマザーページに、彼らはID番号とその要約へのリンクを加えます。]]
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;width:49%;display:block;float:right;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion4.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''4''' - 翻訳者は定期的にそのページをチェックして、彼らの（同じIDの）ページの新しい要約を反映させます。]]
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;width:50%;display:block;float:left;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion5.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''5''' - 議論が続いていきます。それぞれの新しい要約に、調整ページと全ての言語のサブページで確認する固有のID番号が与えられます。]]
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;

===このシステムを機能させるためのガイドライン ===
* '''短いほどよい。'''簡潔さが効果的な多言語での議論の鍵です。長いパラグラフは多分翻訳されないでしょうし、ほかの言語のページにも反映されないでしょう。それはふさわしい考え、批判、質問がいかなる注目も得ないということを意味しています。
* '''告知してください。''' 議論が始まるときは、[[Wikiversity:Announcements/En]]で告知されなければなりません。.
* '''パラグラフの番号付け。'''パラグラフは簡単に確認されるために番号を振らなければなりません。最初の要約は#1です。新しい要約はあとに続きます。これは参加者は彼らのページを加える前に、彼らのぺージが最新であることを確認し数の衝突を避けるために、ほかのページをチェックしなければならないことを意味します

=== このシステムの利点 ===
* 誰とでもつながることができ、議論に参加することができます。
* 参加者は手短になり、重要な話題に集中することが要求されます。
* 言葉が何であっても、参加者間の合意が起こりえます。

=== 欠点 ===
* このシステムは翻訳者の数と効率性にかかっています。

== 翻訳 ==

あなたが複数の言語に堪能ならば、'''[[Wikiversity:Translation]]'''の翻訳者リストにあなた自身を加えてください。.

==関連項目==

* [[Wikiversity:Language select/Ja]]


&lt;!--== Internal Links ==
* [[Meta:Babel templates|Language skill templates]] (Babel templates): you can indicate your linguistic skills on your user page.

* Interlanguage links on [[Meta:Interlanguage links|Meta]] and [[w:en:Wikipedia:Interlanguage links|en:Wikipedia]], [[Talk:Interwiki bot]] (updater of links) 
* Summary of the various-language Wikipedias:  '''[[Wikipedia language overviews]]''' (needs contribution!) | [[Complete list of wikimedia projects]]

* Multilingual coordination: [[Interlingual coordination]]([[Interlingual_coordination#Links_relevant_to_coordination|links]]) | [[w:en:Wikipedia:Multilingual coordination|en:Multiling Coordination]] (issues and list of WPs), [[w:en:Wikipedia:Local Embassy|Local Embassies]] for helping visitors get used to your local WP
* Multilingual style: [[Thoughts_on_Multilingualism]] (essay by Jmabel (ca. 12/2003) on  naming objects, pages, people originally from other langs). 
* [[Meta:Conventions for multilingualism]]

* Translation: [[w:en:Wikipedia:Translation into English|...into English]] - fab project (by Jmabel) to request/fill transl requests (also [[de:Wikipedia:Übersetzungen|...into German]], [[fr:Wikipédia:Traductions en cours|...into French]], [[ja:Wikipedia:翻訳依頼]], [[ro:Wikipedia:Articole de tradus|...into Romanian]], [[zh-cn:Wikipedia:待翻译文章|...into Simplified Chinese]], and [[zh:Wikipedia:待翻譯文章|...into Traditional Chinese]]), and [[w:en:Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English|en:Pages needing translation]] - garbled pages on en: needing to be salvaged.
** Tools: [[w:en:Wikipedia:Language recognition chart|Lang recognition chart]] for identifying unfamiliar charactersets.
** Translation Group in [http://wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikiversity Wikiversity]: &amp;nbsp;[http://wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikiversidad:Área_de_Traducción Español] | [http://wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikiversity%3ATranslation_practice_course English]--&gt;

[[Category:Multilingualism|Ja]]
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      <text xml:space="preserve">--[[User:Aleksejevski|&lt;font color=&quot;blue&quot;&gt;&lt;big&gt;Алексеевски&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]]  [[User_talk:Aleksejevski|&lt;sup&gt;Talk to me&lt;/sup&gt;]] 13:45, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[[wikipedia:zh:User:Aleksejevski|&lt;font color=&quot;blue&quot;&gt;&lt;big&gt;Aleksejevski&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]]</text>
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      <comment>/* Proposition de définition d'architecture */  + schéma</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">'''''Revenir à [[Wikiversité]]'''''

Il faut définir un organigramme global qui permettra de classer les interventions. Cette organigramme a plusieurs finalités.

== Les données du problèmes ==
=== Le rôle structurant de l'architecture ===
L'architecture doit servir à construire des unités logiques au sein de la Wikiversité.

Tout d'abord, il doit permettre au lecteur de se situer dans les pages. Ainsi, l'architecture doit être la plus permanente possible : ainsi par exemple la notion de chapitre doit être la même dans toutes les matières. Il est donc important que l'architecture soit exposée et commentée.

Ensuite, il doit permettre de progresser logiquement dans son apprentissage. Ainsi, une leçon peut être décomposée en chapitres eux mêmes décomposés en sections. L'apprenti saura alors qu'au sein du chapitre N, les sections s'enchainent dans un ordre et qu'après la dernière section, la suite se trouve dans le chapitre suivant.

Enfin, l'organigramme doit aussi permettre d'individualiser chaque élément qui constitue alors une unité logique qui peut être appréhendée indépendamment du reste des pages. Ainsi, la personne intéressée par un seul thème doit pouvoir lire une leçon dans son ensemble et avoir à la fin de sa leçon une vision exaustive du thème étudié.

=== Les niveaux d'apprentissage ===
Il est évident que la connaissance s'appréhende par étapes. On doit traiter différemment d'un même sujet selon le niveau du lecteur, or le rédacteur ne connaissant pas le lecteur, il doit anticiper l'hétérogénéité du public rencontré en indiquant lui même le niveau de l'intervention.

Cela pose le problème de savoir à quel étage de l'architecture effectuer la distinction.

Par exemple : doit-on au sein d'une leçon rédiger des chapitres de différents niveaux, ou bien faut il faire une leçon d'initiation à la matière et une autre d'approfondissement et enfin une de spécialisation. On peut aussi imaginer faire les distinction au plus haut niveaux de l'architecture et de créer des sous-ensembles multithèmes correspondant chacun à un niveaux.

En résumé trois méthodes principales se dégagent :
* Une division dès les plus grands étages de l'architecture. Elle reviendrait à créer des &quot;collège&quot; des &quot;lycées&quot; et des &quot;universités&quot; au sein desquels se feraient la division des matières. C'est ce qui a été partiellement choisi dans la Wikiversité (WV) hispanophone avec la création d'une école primaire et d'une école secondaire, puis d'une université proprement dite.
* Au niveau inférieur, c'est à dire des matières et des leçons, sous la forme de leçons de niveaux différents. Ainsi au sein de la matière &quot;Physique&quot; on fait des leçons différentes pour traiter de Température &gt; Thermodynamique &gt; Détente de Joule et Gay-Lussac &gt; Statistique de Maxwell-Boltzmann.
* Ou au plus bas niveau, au sein de la leçon d'analyse financière, on rédige un chapitre &quot;débutant&quot; sur l'intérêt de l'analyse, un chapitre &quot;confirmé&quot; sur les mathématiques actuarielles en finance, un chapitre &quot;initié&quot; sur les dynamiques de frais récurents, un chapitre &quot;initié&quot; sur la dynamique de la dette... Le lecteur lit alors les chapitres les uns après les autres et ils constituent une démarche progressive.

De ces méthodes, la plus claire et la plus simple semble la solution intermédiaire. En effet, elle permet de conserver l'articulation logique au sein d'une même leçon ce que ne fait pas la troisième proposition en mélant plusieurs niveaux au sein d'une même leçon. La première proposition pose le problème de ne pas regrouper toutes les leçons d'une matière sous un même ensemble logique, aussi si c'est encore potentiellement possible pour les formations d'un niveau primaire ou secondaire, cela ne l'est plus pour les formations de niveau universitaire. Par conséquent, cette solution ne pourrait être utilisée qu'à la marge, en complément d'une autre.

=== Le traitement des annexes ===
Une intervention, quand bien même elle est conçue pour être un ensemble logique, peut avoir des références extérieures. On peut recenser plusieurs types de références :
* Des éléments de bibliographie
* Des sources
* Des liens vers une autre leçon ou un autre chapitre pour appronfondir le sujet
* Des liens vers des définitions, des articles encyclopédiques ou des citations dans les autres projets de la planète wikimedia.
Les liens externes doivent être limités, comme c'est déja le cas pour les autres projets de wikimedia.

Il faut alors utiliser un traitement uniforme de ces références dans les articles.

== Proposition de définition d'architecture ==
=== Description (avec schéma) ===
[[Image:Architecture-de-la-Wikiversité.png|right]]
Cette proposition est basée sur exemples des WV anglophone et hispanophone, il s'inspire également de différentes structures d'enseignement supérieur et de recherche de différents états et du squelette commun de ces organisations. Le choix des termes est fait en fonction des usages universitaires.

On différencie trois étages.
=== La métastructure ===
===== Définition =====
C'est elle qui est affichée sur la page d'accueil. Elle définit les grands axes de répartition des interventions. Elle doit permettre au visiteur de se situer dans la Wikiversité. Chaque division peut ensuite faire l'objet d'une page avec sa dynamique propre : astuces, le saviez-vous...
===== Proposition =====
Par ordre décroissant :
* ''Les facultés et écoles peuvent être regroupés en raisons de leur connexité dans des portails.''
* Une faculté ou une école ; exemple : faculté de droit, école de chimie, faculté de langues
* Un département ; exemple : département droit public, département droit international, département de chimie physique, département chimie industrielle, département langues d'extrème-orient
* Un pôle ; exemple : pôle droit public français, pôle droit public canadien, pôle chinois, pôle coréen...

=== L'unité pédagogique ===
===== Définition =====
C'est à cette étage que se font les divisions fondamentales entre les leçons. C'est a partir de ce niveau d'architecture que se construisent les ensembles logiques au sein duquel évolue l'apprenti.

===== Proposition =====
* ''Lorsqu'un pôle propose un nombre conséquent de leçons, celle-ci peuvent être regroupées dans des &quot;groupe de leçons&quot;. Les groupes sont constituées en fonction d'un thème ou d'un niveau. L'usage des groupes de leçons impose que toutes les leçons apparaissent à la fois au sein de leur groupe thématique et de leur groupe de niveau.''
* Une leçon qualifiée par un thème et un niveau ; exemple : les grands inventeurs en thermochimie (débutant), la vie politique française de 1870 à 1946 (initié), le droit public économique français (confirmé), les tests paramétriques (confirmé)

=== La segmentation ===
===== Définition =====
Elle consiste à diviser chaque leçon en petite unités. Chaque unité de taille modeste peut être étudiée avant de passer à une autre unité. De plus face à la multiplicité des intervenants, une segmentation permet d'éditer une petite partie de la leçon sans retoucher la logique globale de la leçon. Idéalement, la segmentation de base (le chapitre) doit correspondre à une page de Wiki.
===== Proposition =====
* Un chapitre ; exemple : la vie politique française de 1870 à 1884, la vie politique française de 1884 à 1914, la vie politique française de 1914 à 1936, la vie politique française de 1936 à 1940, la vie politique française de 1940 à 1946
** Chaque chapitre (qui est en fait une page de wiki) peut alors être structuré à l'intérieur sous forme de sections et de paragraphes. A la fin du chapitre, une section indique les sources.
* Une annexe dans chaque leçon récapitule toutes les références extérieures (liens, biblio...)
===== La page de leçon =====
Chaque leçon devrait être introduite par une page récapitulative. C'est ce qu'utilisent les anglophones et ils conçoivent cette page l'introduction de la leçon. Il est possible de développer un modèle réutilisable pour les pages de leçon.

Cette page doit contenir :
* L'intitulé de la leçon
* Son niveau et l'indication de prérequis conseillés (avec liens internes)
* Un court texte de présentation de la leçon, de ce qui est présenté, de la finalité de la leçon et des questions abordées
* La liste des chapitres et un lien vers l'annexe récapitulative
* Une liste des contributeurs qui s'interessent particulièrement à ce sujet et qui serait d'accord pour répondre aux questions sur ce sujet</text>
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    <title>User:Tszkin</title>
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        <username>Tszkin</username>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">這是分享知識和互相學習的地方，我本人十分支持。
本人願意為各位服務。</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">Shinjiman, 你好! 一般開始一維基計劃之前, 需準備什麼?--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 16:34, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

&quot;MediaWiki介面翻譯，現時中文介面的信息只停留在1.4版，實際介面翻譯率大約為37%。&quot;  -- 指該頁之紅字，如[[:zh:w:GiveRollback.i18n.php]]？--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|User talk]] 23:06, 9 December 2006 (UTC)</text>
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    <title>中文校名</title>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">此頁主持 zh.wikiversity.org 計劃中文校名之討論, 以期在開學前選出[[meta:consensus|大家認可]]最適當的中文校名 。 請在[[talk:中文校名|討論頁]]詳細討論, 並在以下[[#討論摘要]]部寫一摘要 (做法猶如 beta 的[[wikiversity:multilingualism/Zh|多語言討論系統]]).

中文校名之討論曾在中文維基百科舉行&lt;ref&gt;[[:wikipedia:zh:Wikipedia:投票/Wikiversity中文譯名]]&lt;/ref&gt;, &lt;ref&gt;[[:wikipedia:zh:Wikipedia:投票/Wikiversity中文譯名/譯名提名]]&lt;/ref&gt;.  但校名討論離不開建校目的等[[建校問題|基本問題]], 因此我們在 Beta 繼續討論.

請仔細考慮, 待大家深入瞭解各建議長短以後才投票. 可參考 [[talk:建校問題]].

==校名提議==
#維基大學
#維基學院
#維基書院
#維基太學
#維基學宮
#維基學府
#維基杏壇
#維基維繫地
#維基學園

==討論摘要==

# Vipuser: 维基大学释义
# Dersonlwd:学习的地方
# Lecter: 原創研究的出現，這一點打破了所有其他維基計畫的紀錄
# Mwkchan: 用「學院」會較「大學」來得更中性
# 嘉禾:「研究」、「教學」的地方
# Kingme: 大學之道，在明明德，在親民，在止於至善
# Aleksejevski: 不是&quot;wikicollege&quot;
# 七喜: 協調各大學計劃
# cmlau:較中性字眼
# Jason22: 研究為主，其實叫研究所會更好
# 越王山の涕淌君
# Lieukehli: 「大學」大氣, 「學院」含蓄
# Ksyrie: 說中文的都明白
# Lorenzarius: 著眼點應該是它的環境和氛圍
# Hillgentleman: 各提議之我見
# 無冕: '''大學'''淺顯意達; '''學府'''有討論真知之韻
# 小狼: 喜歡杏壇，但別人未必明白;「維繫地」有協作之意; 「學府」較能對外傳意
# Tszkin:支持「書院」或「學院」的名稱，「大學」太直接，未能表示分享知識的地方。
# [zh:wp] Zhuxj:「大學」簡單明了
# [zh:wp] Pan1987:「大學」 有代表性
# [zh:wp] AQu01rius: &quot;學院&quot;這個詞彙比&quot;大學&quot;要中性許多。不是&quot;學院&quot;就是&quot;學府
#  Hillgentleman: ''University'' 法律問題
#  Syndrome: &quot;學院&quot;或&quot;學府&quot;都可以
#  Hillgentleman: Wikiversity 理念與英文 wikiversity 之現況

==參考==
*&lt;references/&gt;
*[[Talk:建校問題]], [[建校問題]]
*[[Wikiversity:討論會‎]]
[[Category:ZH]]</text>
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    <title>Talk:中文校名</title>
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      <contributor>
        <username>Hillgentleman</username>
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      <comment>/* 24 Hillgentleman:Wikiversity 理念 */</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">*Hillgentleman 支持維基太學,維基學府, 但偏向維基學院, 其次為維基大學,維基學園. 請無成見者主持這次討論. 最初的評論來自中文維基百科.--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 19:29, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
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==1. Vipuser: 维基大学释义==
*释义：Wiki（维基）+ University（大学）--[[user:vipuser|维游]] [[user talk:vipuser|(o_o)]] 10:01 2006年10月23日 (UTC)
**但是Wikiversity包括的内容不仅仅是大学的课程---{[[user:shizhao|百無一用是書生]]}- (&lt;big&gt;[[User talk:Shizhao|&amp;#9742;]]&lt;/big&gt;) 11:57 2006年10月23日 (UTC)
***意見: 大学有大人之学的意思，不光是指当前大学的含义。--[[user:vipuser|维游]] [[user talk:vipuser|(o_o)]] 01:43 2006年10月24日 (UTC)
****何謂大人之学?--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 15:51 2006年11月5日 (UTC)
*(支持维基大学)：虽然Wikiverisity上能提供怎样的学习材料还有各种看法，但始终是从辅助学习知识的角度出发的，这和大学转播知识的使命是一致的。叫做“维基大学”是最为通俗的，且不乏内涵的正确性。--[[User:Hy48|Hy48]] 13:46 2006年10月23日 (UTC)
==2.Dersonlwd:学习的地方==
*支持这个(維基學院)，学习的地方 --[[User:Dersonlwd|Dersonlwd]] 04:54 2006年10月24日 (UTC)

==3. Lecter: 原創研究的出現，這一點打破了所有其他維基計畫的紀錄==
*(支持大學)：Wikiversity的最大特點在於允許[[Wikipedia:非原创研究|原創研究]]的出現，這一點打破了所有其他維基計畫的紀錄，甚至可以說，Wikiversity本身就是一個提供維基人深入研究的子計畫，其教學功能倒還在其次。下列數個選項都難以反映出這個特色（另外我個人建議把那幾個文言文的選項踢除），只有「大學」符合研究的條件。[[User:Lecter|Lecter]] [[User_talk:Lecter|咖啡館♨]] 08:59 2006年10月25日 (UTC)
**MIT, CalTech 等也稱學院.&quot; IAS = 高等研究院.  CAS = 中国科学院. --[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 20:47, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
*Jason22: (支持「大學」) 不過既然功能是研究為主，其實叫研究所會更好。此外，Wikiversity還有什麼功能呢？是否具有教學性質？Jason22(請留言) 15:47 2006年11月2日 (UTC)
**wikiversity 不必以研究為主 [[:en:v:Wikiversity:Approved_Wikiversity_project_proposal]]--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 08:01 2006年11月5日 (UTC)

==4.Mwkchan&lt;ref&gt;http://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:%E6%8A%95%E7%A5%A8/Wikiversity%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E8%AF%91%E5%90%8D&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=2809482&lt;/ref&gt;==
*支持(维基学院)這個譯名，因為根據英文版Wikiversity的範疇，Wikiversity是一個多層次、全方位的網上教育平台。故用「學院」會較「大學」來得更中性，並避免誤導以一般人對「大學」泛指「高等學府」的理解。
**意見:我不認為「學院」比「大學」適合，或者應該這麼說：'''無論是叫「維基大學」還是「維基學院」，在規模日益擴大而廣為人知之前，在中文世界裡無可避免地會被認為是實體的「學校」'''，。如果中文版的&quot;Wikiversity&quot;叫做「維基學院」，那麼英文版也乾脆改名&quot;Wikicollege&quot;罷--[[User:Stanleyliao5|嘉禾]] 16:31 2006年10月27日 (UTC)
***&quot;在規模日益擴大而廣為人知之前，在中文世界裡無可避免地會被認為是實體的「學校」&quot;--何以見得?--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 15:48 2006年11月5日 (UTC)

==5. 嘉禾:「研究」、「教學」的地方==
*「維基大學」讓人能夠在網路上一看就知道是做「研究」、「教學」的地方，這是一個比較符合&quot;Wikiversity&quot;涵義的的名字。--[[User:Stanleyliao5|嘉禾]] 16:31 2006年10月27日 (UTC)
==6 Kingme: 大學之道，在明明德，在親民，在止於至善 ==
*支持大學:子曰：「大學之道，在明明德，在親民，在止於至善...物有本末，事有終始，知所先後，則近道矣...致知在格物...」此含&quot;Wikiversity&quot;之意。形在大學之所，意於大學之道；「維基大學」最適合不過。 --[[User:Kingme|Kingme]] 00:24 2006年11月10日 (UTC)

==7.Aleksejevski: 不是&quot;wikicollege&quot; ==
因為它是叫「wikiversity」而不是&quot;wikicollege&quot; --Алексеевски Talk to me 14:58 2006年10月28日 (UTC)
*MIT, CalTech 等也稱學院. College = 書院.--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 08:08 2006年11月5日 (UTC)
*要補充一點，若你與外國人交談，college的意思亦可指大學，倒如他們會問你的college degree(大學學位)是什麼學科？這情況是很普遍的，所以在譯意上wikiversity跟wikicollege無重大分別。[[User:Cmlau|Cmlau]] 15:53 2006年11月6日 (UTC)
==8. 七喜: 協調各大學計劃==
提名理由：wikiversity是用於協調各大學計劃的，維繫地既是很好的音譯，又可以表現出wikiversity維持、聯繫的作用。--七喜 進七喜屋喝一杯 給我投一票 03:59 2006年10月29日 (UTC)

==9.cmlau:較中性字眼==
*維基學府--較中性字眼，亦令人們覺得有關知識是各學術程度的人士皆可接觸，是'公開'的。Cmlau 04:38 2006年11月1日 (UTC)
*wikiversity的命名應是wiki和university剛好結合又順口罷了，但意思並不一定焗限純大學程度的知識，在取中文譯名時把意思直接翻譯並不能意會，正如翻譯電影名字一樣，看完整套電影才把內容精粹反映到譯名上才是高手中的高手，故此我偏愛用中性的譯法。況且，用'大學'字眼會令很多未有大學程度的用戶在潛意識上認為本身不是目標用戶群，減低他們積極參與的意慾。Cmlau 03:10 2006年11月6日 (UTC)


==11. 越王山の涕淌君   ==
我個人最支持這個)維基太學)。--越王山の涕淌君 10:24 2006年11月7日 (UTC)

==12. Lieukehli: 「大學」大氣, 「學院」含蓄==
「學院」和「大學」在實際運用上沒有太大差別，但是後者聽上去大氣些，前者比較含蓄。--Lieukehli 01:23 2006年11月8日 (UTC)

==13. Ksyrie: 說中文的都明白 ==
說中文的都明白就行了.Ksyrie

==14.Lorenzarius: 著眼點應該是它的環境和氛圍  ==

大學跟學院都很好、很直接。若怕人誤以為Wikiversity是真的教育機構，那我提議用「學園」。建立Wikiversity的目的其實就是要建立一個共同學習、共同研究的社區，所以著眼點應該是它的環境和氛圍、而不是架構和組織，用「園」也許可以讓人感受到這一點吧。 --[[User:Lorenzarius|Lorenzarius]] 16:07, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

==15. Hillgentleman: 各提議之我見 ==
*學院: 學術組織通稱; [[:wikipedia:en:Academy#The original Academy|學院 (ACADEMY)]]：自由認真嚴肅専注學問之地, 
*大學: 高等學問, 深入研究, 包羅萬有; [[:wikisource:zh:禮記/大學第四十二|禮記]]: 「大學之道，在明明德，在親民，在止於至善。」 ; 學之大者; 有容乃大.
*學園: (campus) 自由開放, 學問之地
*學府: 學術機構通稱
*太學: [[:wikipedia:zh:太學|太學]], 最高學府
*書院: [[:wikipedia:zh:書院|書院]], [[:wikipedia:en:college|college]], 學者自由獨立聚集論道之地
*杏壇: [[:wikisource:zh:莊子:漁父|莊子]]: 「孔子遊乎緇帷之林，休坐乎杏壇之上。弟子讀書，孔子弦歌鼓琴，奏曲未半。」; 有教無類
-[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 07:50, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

==16. [來自中文維基百科]無冕: 大學淺顯意達; 學府有討論真知之韻 ==
*大學: 淺顯意達, 躍然紙上. 意思再明白不過
*學府: 不似&quot;大學&quot;那麼直白, 平添了幾分書卷氣, 又有&quot;雅典學派&quot;互通有無, 討論真知之韻, 也不錯, 投一票. --無冕 21:03 2006年11月14日 (UTC)

==17. 小狼: 喜歡杏壇，但別人未必明白;「維繫地」有協作之意; 「學府」較能對外傳意==
*個人喜歡杏壇，但別人未必明白。意思上，只有「維繫地」有協作之意，但又可能被人以為是吹水閒聊處。因此還是「學府」較能對外傳意，較為平衡而恰當。--[[User:Syaoran|小狼]] 15:17, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

==21. [zh:wp] AQu01rius: &quot;學院&quot;這個詞彙比&quot;大學&quot;要中性許多。不是&quot;學院&quot;就是&quot;學府&quot; ==
*維基大學--以字面上的意思來翻，大部分時候都很洽當。但我唸來唸去，還是不認為&quot;維基大學&quot;很適當。
*維基學院-- 我個人認為&quot;學院&quot;這個詞彙比&quot;大學&quot;要中性許多。不是&quot;學院&quot;就是&quot;學府&quot;，這是我的意見。
*書院之詞跟&quot;維基教科書&quot;有點覆蓋。
*維基杏壇--太混淆了
*維基維繫地--好像在念台語。對我而言，維系地會讓人錯覺為是Village Pump。
---AQu01rius (User | Talk |)  22:36 2006年11月19日 (UTC)

==22. Hillgentleman: ''University'' 法律問題 ==
*[http://www.osac.state.or.us/oda/faq.html Office of Degree Authorization, State of Oregon, USA]:
''Can any school call itself a “university”?---
To be authorized to use the term &quot;university,&quot; a school must offer bachelor's degrees together with graduate or first professional degrees or be part of an organization that constitutes a formal consortium of schools so authorized. No exceptions are allowed, including religious exemptions.''---[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]-[[User talk:hillgentleman|User talk]] 13:54, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
:我同意此觀點,大學並不適合, 因在學術機制上&quot;大學&quot;是有其定義,正是為何樹仁學院多年來只能叫學院而不能叫大學之因,而以維基媒體自由開放之原則,並不需要與所謂機制上的標準配合, 若自稱大學, 則未免有點自吹自擂之嫌 - [[User:Hardys|Hardys]] 01:16, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

==23. Syndrome: &quot;學院&quot;或&quot;學府&quot;都可以 ==
*維基大學--我認為考慮到成立的精神，大學的原意雖然包容廣大。但較容易讓一般人誤以為是真正的大學，且有排除大學以外的人的疑慮，比方說高中生、教授等非大學生。
*維基學院-- 我覺得&quot;學院&quot;是比&quot;大學&quot;好一些的選擇。在一般人的認知上，學院比較不像是一般大學，類似的命名如象棋學院、圍棋學院。這表示學院都不容易招致誤會，但嚴格來說，仍會跟一般以學院命名的學校搞混。
*維基學府-- 從文字意義上來說，學府雖略有古典之嫌，但有較為莊嚴的感覺。一般人也容易望文生義。在名稱上，並不容易與一般大學院校混淆，因此我個人認為這亦是個妥善的選擇。
---Syndrome  21:29 2006年12月29日 (UTC)

==24 Hillgentleman: Wikiversity 理念與英文 wikiversity 之現況==
請參攷 user:WiseWoman 之意見([[wikiversity talk:scope/En]] 或 [http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer_Diskussion:WiseWoman]  ).大家可比較現時英文wikiversity 之現況與當初構想理念.  --[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|書]] 08:06, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

==參考==
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      <text xml:space="preserve">==1. Aleksejevski对建校问题的意见==
首先，我们建立这所网络上的自由的大学的目的是为了让更多人学习到更多知识（这有点像维基百科），并且给大家一个研究的平台。根据维基百科的规定，维基百科是不能写一些个人的研究成果、结论的（除非你的观点被权威的专家认可）；然而维基大学是一所给大家畅所欲言、发表各位“学生”、 “导师”、“教授”的观点、想法的地方，就像研究所一样（当然，这些都是关于他们的研究课题的，毕竟这是大学）。这就是维基大学成立的原因。
:Wikiverity 的參加者不必有大學資歷[[:en:Wikiversity:Wikiversity_students]]. [[meta:What_Wikiversity_is_not|Wikiversity 不是大學]]--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 02:03, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
:有無學習或研究計劃提議?-[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 02:03, 12 November 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <comment>bien mais...</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">C'est très bien mais... un peu compliqué. Même en étant motivé, c'est long à lire et pas forcément clair. Peut-être qu'un schéma serait le bienvenu ? 

En tout cas, c'est très bien de penser à ça dès maintenant. [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 16:57, 12 November 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">Guten Tag!  I translated your recent comment on [[wikiversity:scope of research]] into English with the help of google translator.  Please tell me if the translation is accurate. Danke. --[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 03:25, 13 November 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <comment>Schéma de l'architecture possible de la Wikiversité Francophone. Licence GFDL.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">Schéma de l'architecture possible de la Wikiversité Francophone. Licence GFDL.</text>
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      <comment>/* Quem são os professores da Wikiversidade? */</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">:← '''Retornar à [[Wikiversity:Wikiversidade|Wikiversidade]]
----

A Wikiversidade é uma wiki onde seu participantes colaboram no desenvolvemento das páginas.

==Este é um projeto de aprendizagem?==

A unidade de base da Wikiversidade é o projeto de aprendizagem. O objetivo é se comparar à uma unidade de ensino, como a universidade. Ela comporta:

*Um tema;
*Objetivos ou um programa correspondente à um nível de estudo ou de dificuldade;
*Professores voluntários;
*Estudantes voluntários;
*Um liceu: uma página do projeto de aprendizagem

Esta página têm o conteúdo visível e concreto de um projeto de aprendizagem, um desenvolvimento interessante para atender os objetivos dos participantes.

===Onde são os cursos?===

A Wikiversidade desenvolve, aloja e retorna à diferentes tipos de recursos integrados nos projetos de aprendizagem. Organiza-se em redor de comunidades agrupadas sobre um assunto comum específico. É um lugar onde estes grupos podem encontrar-se para aprender juntos, utilizando recursos da Wikipédia e do Wikilivros.

===Quem são os professores da Wikiversidade?===

Nisto ela se difere de uma universidade convencional: os participantes são os estudantes e os professores. Todo o mundo pode aprender qualquer coisa sobre qualquer assunto.

===Como será a avaliação da aprendizagem?===

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      <text xml:space="preserve">Category which agroupes pages related with the [[Wikiversidade]].

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      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Babel|nl|en-3|de-2}}

I am a 28 year old Dutch history student from Leiden.

I would like to devote my time on multilingualism and organizing groups for discussions and research in libraries and other public places around the world.

Daarnaast zou ik willen meewerken aan een nederlandse versie van Wikiversity.

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      <text xml:space="preserve">From chinese wikipedia [http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lecter].

Talk to me if you have any question [http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lecter].

I can translate english material into chinese. 

Main interests: politics, political philosophy, economy, sociology.</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">Lecter, 你好。謝謝您的信. 有道理。大多同意. 但維基百科和wikiversity 目標和用戶不同。英文 wikipedia 有百萬多名用戶; wikiversity 只有幾千, 但很有效.  Wikiversity 可能會鼓勵更多人加入維基社群.
我想: 至少 wikiversity 可提供分佈各一般大學的學者和研究員 一學術問題論壇 和 互相學習,合作研究的機會和環境.  當然, Wikiversity 不同百科, 不必求全.
Wikiversity.org 的首六個月是關鍵的, 因為現在我們需要擬定研究政策. 因此中文社群應該參與. 但我們不急忙正式開始中文wikiversity。
--[[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 22:23, 15 November 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Wikiversity:Approved Wikiversity project proposal}}
{{Wikiversity}}
This page is a modified proposal for '''[[Wikiversity]]''' to become a sister project of the [[Wikimedia Foundation]]. The first section of this page (&quot;Historical review of the Wikiversity project&quot;, below)  contains a description of how the original Wikiversity project proposal was produced. The modified proposal is in [[#Mission|Part 2]], starting with &quot;Mission&quot;.

==Historical review of the Wikiversity project==
[[b:Wikiversity|Wikiversity]] was [[b:Wikibooks:Votes for deletion/Wikiversity|proposed for deletion]] from Wikibooks in August 2005. Soon after that, there was a  [[Proposals for new projects#Wikiversity|proposal]] to make Wikiversity an independent WikiMedia project. In addition to the information on the proposed projects page, information about the original proposal was described in a [http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2005-August/003857.html mailing list post] and on the [[Wikiversity|Wikiversity page]] of the WikiMedia meta-wiki. 

An old proposal and discussion can be seen here : [[Wikiversity:Original proposal]].


A '''modified project proposal''' follows ('''Part 2''')

== Mission ==
'''''Wikiversity is a centre for the creation and use of free learning materials and activities.''''' Its primary priorities and goals are to:

*Create and host a range of free-content, multilingual learning materials/resources, for all age groups in all languages
*Host scholarly/learning projects and communities that support these materials
*Complement and develop existing Wikimedia projects (eg. a project devoted to finding good sources for Wikipedia articles)

See more on [[Wikiversity:Scope]] and [[Wikiversity:Online Course]]. In the fulfillment of its mission, other tasks and goals may be initiated and developed by participants to support learning and the creation of new content.  In particular, guidelines will be developed during the beta phase of Wikiversity's development on hosting and fostering ''research'' based in part on existing resources in Wikiversity and other Wikimedia projects.

==Learning==
'''The Wikiversity e-Learning model'''. Existing &quot;bricks and mortar&quot; universities began as meeting places for scholarly individuals seeking knowledge and those with mastery of a subject who could act as teachers to guide the learning process. Wikiversity will be a virtual meeting place for masters and scholars, a wiki that hosts and promotes a flexible online learning environment.

Conventional universities evolved to have classrooms, collections of courses, grades, fees for students, pay for teachers, the granting of degrees, the certification of teachers and accreditation of universities. That entire structure grew out of the need to concentrate expensive resources (people and facilities) at a particular location in the physical world. The Wikiversity e-Learning model abandons all aspects of conventional universities that arise from the need to focus people and facilities in one place and time. The Wikiversity e-Learning model grows out of the power of the wiki user environment to liberate learning from conventional constraints of time and place. See [[Wikiversity:Learning]] for more.

===Learning groups===
It is natural for the wiki format to develop &quot;[[Learning community|learning groups]]&quot; (creating and maintaining learning trails; interest portals; project or task artifacts) where all participants can discuss and learn collaboratively. These groups/communities will be help desks, mentoring teams, cohort groups, debate clubs - practical applications might be in doing research for Wikipedia, or writing code for MediaWiki. This is peer-learning, learning through collaboration and discussion - the &quot;wiki way&quot;.

Wikiversity participants will actively participate in online learning projects. As for any wiki, community participation involves the editing of wiki pages. Wikiversity learning projects will consist of collections of wiki webpages concerned with the scholarly exploration of a particular topic. Some Wikiversity learning projects will be oriented around existing needs of other Wikimedia projects. For example, a group of Wikiversity participants might engage in a project to find good sources for an existing Wikipedia article. Another Wikiversity project might involve exploration of an established academic discipline and the participants might decide to collectively assemble material that would contribute to a Wikibooks textbook for that subject. Thus, Wikiversity will naturally complement existing Wikimedia projects by providing an environment that supports and fosters scholarly “secondary research”. Wikiversity will begin with a bias towards learning projects that provide support for existing Wikimedia projects, but with time, Wikiversity will evolve to serve the needs of its community. Students will express their learning needs and the Wikiversity community will evolve learning activities and projects to accommodate those needs. Some groups could act more didactically - there is room for materials to be laid out as instructions or tasks to be followed. In any case, communities will exist behind the materials to support the ongoing use and development of the content Wikiversity hosts. See [[Wikiversity:Learning|more on learning in Wikiversity]] and [[Wikiversity:Online_Course|more on online courses]].

== Resources ==
'''Resources''' will include teaching aids, lesson plans, curricula, links, reading lists, etc. Each subject area (or 'course', 'project'), essentially, each ''community'', creates a web of resources that would form the basis of discussions and activities within that field of Wikiversity, and that could be used by any other educators for their own purposes. Some of these will link up with other Wikimedia projects, such as Wikibooks and Wikipedia - a key to these resources should be that they prompt further work (practice/discussion/reflection/criticism etc).

== Research ==
Wikiversity could act as a repository of research carried out by the [[meta:Wikimedia Research Network]] or other people involved in wiki-based [[research]], and could also host the proceedings of [[meta:Wikimania]]. Whether or not Wikiversity will ever host original research in addition to secondary research is the subject of debate (see [[Talk:Wikiversity/Modified project proposal|talk page]]) though [[Primary research|original research]] could take place based on materials in Wikiversity (eg. materials on sociology prompt a survey research project). Guidelines for what would be appropriate research will be developed during the beta phase of the project through a community consensus process, and reviewed (by the [[meta:Special projects committee]]) after six months. There will not ''necessarily'' be &quot;approval&quot; of research added to Wikiversity - though some sort of review process needs to be established which will deal with potential problems.

== Scope of Wikiversity ==
===[[Wikiversity:Scope|What Wikiversity is]]===
*'''A repository of free, multilingual educational resources.'''
*'''A network of communities to create and use these resources'''
*'''A group effort to learn'''.  Which may or may not be led by an instructor, who may or may not be an expert on the topic.

===[[Wikiversity:What Wikiversity is not|What Wikiversity is not]]===
*'''A duplication of other Wikimedia projects'''. While Wikiversity complements other Wikimedia projects, it will not simply duplicate their content. So, if you want to read about a topic, you may be better off visiting, say, Wikipedia or Wikibooks, but if you want to learn about this topic, you can do so at Wikiversity. Learning materials will be created and used on Wikiversity, but materials on other projects may also be used as learning materials themselves or even places to consolidate this learning, ie writing an article, manual etc based on what you've learned. There may be some overlapping, but each project will maintain its own focus.
*'''A degree or title granting institution''': Wikiversity will not confer degrees or any other academic qualifications, nor will it entitle people to call themselves &quot;professors&quot;, if they are not professors.

Work done on Wikiversity will hopefully be useful to other projects.  When participants have significant results they may be used to improve other Wikimedia projects, and indeed other online learning, reference and data sources.

See more at: [[Wikiversity:What Wikiversity is not]] and [[Wikiversity:Scope]].

==Features Wikiversity will/might need in the future==
* Metadata - there is currently work on a Metadata patch, which will be able to be added to Wikiversity retrospectively.
* Page protection - there may be a need to restrict editing of pages or groups of pages to within groups of people (such as a research community, for example). However, this needs to be done with care, so as to minimise the exclusion of people to the work of that community.
* Software - there is currently no software needed to get Wikiversity going, but participants are welcome to experiment with additions to the source code which might help the work of Wikiversity in some way. Implementations of these ideas will have to be done through the appropriate channels (probably the [[Special projects committee]]).

==Further discussion==
There has been some discussion of how to satisfy the Board's request for modification of the original Wikiversity proposal, which can be seen through these (and associated) pages:
*[[meta:Talk:Wikiversity/Archive 3#Current status]]
*[[meta:Moving Wikiversity forward]]
*[[b:Talk:Wikiversity#Decision on Wikiversity?]]

Please place all additional discussion of modifications to the Wikiversity proposal on the [[Talk:Wikiversity/Modified project proposal|discussion page]] for the modified proposal.

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      <text xml:space="preserve">Lusófonos, poderíamos iniciar aqui uma '''Esplanada provisória''', não? Abraços, &lt;span style=&quot;font-variant:small-caps&quot;&gt;[[User:SallesNeto BR|Salles Neto]]&lt;/span&gt; [[Image:Bandeira_de_Roraima.svg|24px|Roraima]] &lt;sup&gt;[[user talk:SallesNeto_BR|@]]&lt;/sup&gt; 19:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:Posso ajudar em alguma coisa? &lt;small&gt;Ah, que engraçado, esta wiki tem o &quot;sistema colorido francês&quot;.&lt;/small&gt; [[User:Neko|Neko]] 23:24, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

::Claro! Traduza o [[Wikiversité]] (em fr) para o pt, em [[Wikiversity]] =). Abraços, &lt;span style=&quot;font-variant:small-caps&quot;&gt;[[User:SallesNeto BR|Salles Neto]]&lt;/span&gt; [[Image:Bandeira_de_Roraima.svg|24px|Roraima]] &lt;sup&gt;[[user talk:SallesNeto_BR|@]]&lt;/sup&gt; 13:27, 18 November 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">:← '''Retornar à [[Wikiversity:Wikiversidade|Wikiversidade]]
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É necessário definir um organograma global que permitirá classificar as intervenções. Este organograma tem várias finalidades.

== Os dados dos problemas ==

=== O papel estruturante do projeto ===

A arquitetura deve servir para construir unidades lógicas na Wikiversidade.

Em primeiro lugar, deve permitir ao leitor situar-se nas páginas. Assim, a arquitetura deve ser o mais compreenssível possível: assim por exemplo a noção de capítulo deve ser a mesma em todas as matérias. É por conseguinte importante que a arquitetura seja exposta e comentada.

Seguidamente, deve permitir progredir logicamente na sua aprendizagem. Assim, uma lição pode ser dividida em capítulos e estes, por sua vez, divididos em secções. O aprendiz saberá enquanto que no capítulo '''N''', as seções estão numa ordem e que após a última secção, a sequência encontra-se no capítulo seguinte.

Por último, o organograma também deve permitir individualizar cada elemento que constitui então uma unidade lógica que pode ser apreendida independentemente das demais páginas. Assim, a pessoa interessada por só um tema deve poder ler uma lição como um todo e ter no fim da sua lição uma visão exaustiva do tema estudado.

=== Os níveis de aprendizagem ===

É evidente que o conhecimento aprende-se por etapas. Deve-se tratar diferentemente um mesmo assunto de acordo com o nível do leitor, ora o editor que não conhece o leitor, ele deve-se antecipar a heterogeneidade do público encontrado indicando ele mesmo o nível da intervenção.

Isso coloca o problema de qual arquitetura colocar, fazendo uma distinção dos leitores.

Por exemplo: deve-se numa lição redigir capítulos de diferentes níveis, ou é necessário-se ele fazer uma lição de iniciação à matéria e outra de aprofundamento e por último uma de especialização. Pode-se também imaginar em fazer-se a distinção nos níveis mais elevados da arquitetura e de criar subconjuntos dos temas que correspondem a cada um dos níveis.

Em resumo, há três métodos principais:

* Uma divisão dos grandes estágios do projeto, criando &quot;colégios&quot;, &quot;liceus&quot; e &quot;universidades&quot;, os quais deverão estruturar a divisão das matérias. Aqui deve se destacar particularmente a escolha da Wikiversidade em espanhol, que criou uma escola primária e uma escola secundária, além da universidade propriamente dita.
* A nível inferior, ou seja em matérias e lições, sob forma de lições de níveis diferentes. Assim na matéria &quot;Física&quot; faz-se lições diferentes para tratar de Temperatura &gt; Termodinâmica &gt; Estatística de Maxwell-Boltzmann.
* Ou mais a baixo ao nível, na lição de análise financeira, redige-se um capítulo &quot;básico&quot; sobre o interesse da análise, um capítulo &quot;médio&quot; sobre as matemáticas atuariais em finanças, um capítulo &quot;avançado&quot; sobre a dinâmica da dívida... O leitor lê então os capítulos um após os outros e constituem uma diligência progressiva.

Destes métodos, o mais claro e mais simples parece ser a solução intermédia. Com efeito, permite conservar a articulação lógica no seio da mesma lição, o que não é o caso da terceira proposta ao misturar vários níveis na mesma lição. A primeira proposta coloca o problema de não agrupar todas as lições de uma matéria sob um mesmo conjunto lógico, ainda que seja potencialmente possível para as formações de um nível primário ou secundário, já não é para as formações de um nível universitário. Por conseguinte, esta solução só pode ser utilizada de forma marginal, em complemento de uma outra.

=== O tratamento dos anexos ===
Uma intervenção, mesmo quando é concebida para ser um conjunto lógico, pode ter referências exteriores. Podem-se contar vários tipos de referências :
* Elementos de bibliografia
* Fontes
* Ligações a uma outra lição ou a um outro capítulo para aprofundar o assunto
* Ligações a definições, artigos enciclopédicos ou citações em outros projectos da Wikimedia.
As ligações externas devem ser limitadas, como já é o caso para os outros projectos da Wikimedia.

É então necessário utilizar um tratamento uniforme destas referências nos artigos.

== Proposta de definição da arquitetura ==
=== Descrição (sobre o esquema) ===
[[Image:Architecture-de-la-Wikiversité.png|right]]
Esta proposta é baseada nos exemplos das Wikiversidades anglófona e hispanófona, inspirando-se igualmente em diferentes estruturas de ensino superior e de pesquisa e no esqueleto comum destas organizações. A escolha dos termos é feita em função dos usos universitários. 

Diferenciam-se três plataformas.

=== A metaestrutura ===
===== Definição =====
É ela que é afixada sobre a página de acolhimento. Define os grandes eixos de distribuição das intervenções. Deve permitir ao visitante situar-se na Wikiversidade. Cada divisão pode seguidamente ser objecto de uma página com a sua dinâmica própria.

===== Proposta =====
Por ordem decrescente:
* ''As faculdades e escolas podem ser agrupadas em razões da sua conexidade em portais.''
* Uma faculdade ou uma escola; exemplo: faculdade de direito, escola de química, faculdade de línguas
* Um departamento; exemplo: departamento de direito público, departamento de direito internacional, departamento de físico-química, departamento de química industrial, departamento de línguas do extremo oriente
* Um pólo; exemplo: pólo de direito público francês, pólo de direito público canadense, pólo chinês, pólo coreano...

=== A unidade pedagógica ===
===== Definição =====
É nesta plataforma que se fazem as divisões fundamentais entre as lições. É a partir deste nível da arquitetura que se constroem os conjuntos lógicos no qual evolui o aprendiz.

===== Proposta =====
* ''quando um pólo propõe um número consecutivo de lições, estas podem ser agrupadas dentro do &quot;grupo de lições&quot;. Os grupos são constituídos em função de um tema ou de um nível. O uso dos grupos de lições impõe que todas as lições aparecem ao mesmo tempo no seu grupo temático e no seu grupo de nível.''

* Uma lição qualificada por um tema e um nível; exemplo: os grandes inventores em termoquímica (básico), a vida política francesa de 1870 para 1946 (médio), o direito público econômico francês (avançado), os testes paramétricos (avançado)

=== A segmentação ===
===== Definição =====
Consiste em dividir cada lição em pequenas unidades. Cada unidade de dimensão modesta pode ser estudada antes de se passar a uma outra unidade. Além disso, perante a multiplicidade dos intervenientes, uma segmentação permite editar uma pequena parte da lição sem modificar a lógica global da lição. Idealmente, a segmentação básica (o capítulo) deve corresponder à uma página de Wiki.

===== Proposta =====
* Um capítulo; exemplo : a vida política francesa de 1870 a 1884, a vida política francesa de 1884 a 1914, a vida política francesa de 1914 a 1936, a vida política francesa de 1936 a 1940, a vida política francesa de 1940 a 1946
** Cada capítulo (que é uma página de wiki) pode então ser estruturado sob a forma de seções e parágrafos. No fim do capítulo, uma seção indica as fontes.
* Um anexo em cada lição recapitula todas as referências externas (ligações, biblio...)

===== A página de lição =====
Cada lição deveria ser introduzida por uma página de recapitulação. É o que utilizam os anglófonos e concebem esta página como a introdução da lição. É possível desenvolver um modelo reutilizável para as páginas de lição.

Esta página deve conter:
* O título da lição
* O seu nível e a indicação de pré-requisitos aconselhados (com relações internas)
* Um curto texto de apresentação da lição, do seu conteúdo, da finalidade da lição e das questões abordadas
* A lista dos capítulos e uma ligação para o anexo de recapitulação
* Uma lista dos contribuintes que se interessam particularmente pelo assunto e que estariam dispostos  a responder perguntas sobre ele

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      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Help:FAQ}}

;O que é a Wikiversidade?
:Wikiversidade é um novo projeto Wikimedia&lt;ref&gt;(en) Resolução do Conselho: [[wikimedia:Resolution Wikiversity]]&lt;/ref&gt; explorando caminhos para usar o poder do wiki para apoiar o aprendizado online. Este novo projeto estará em fase beta nos primeiros seis meses &lt;ref&gt;(en) Email de Anthere sobre a Wikiversidade: http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2006-August/009074.html&lt;/ref&gt;.


;O que é a Wikiversidade Beta?
:Wikiversidade Beta é uma plataforma global visando coordenar projetos Wikiversidade em diversas línguas. Esta coordenação multilingual pretende lidar com a missão e linhas gerais do escopo do projeto  Wikiversidade (por exemplo, sobre pesquisa original). Wikiversidade Beta é também um local onde os projetos Wikiversidade que não tem um subdomínio ainda podem se desenvolver.
:Resumindo, Wikiversidade Beta é ambos um meta-wiki e uma incubadora para projetos Wikiversidade.


;Como é que se pode ter tantas línguas coexistindo no Wikiversidade Beta sem que isso se torne uma bagunça?
:A Wikiversidade Beta deseja aproveitar a participação de todos os seus contribuintes e não somente os que falam a língua inglesa. As discussões multilingues devem não só coabitar, mas viver em simbiose. Um [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/En|sistema de de discussão multilingue (en)]] foi proposto com a finalidade de gerar esse debate, de forma que os não falantes da língua inglesa também possam fazer parte das discussões. Além disso, a Wikiversidade Beta utiliza a funcionalidade ''[[Wikiversity:Language select/En|seleção do idioma (en)]]'', o que permite ao utilizador não exibir as informações que não estão no seu idioma, na página multilingue.


;E quanto aos projetos Wikiversidade que já possuem seu próprio subdomínio?
:Estes [[Wikiversity:Separate projects|projetos separados]] estão crescendo à sua maneira. Entretanto, seus participantes são encorajados fortemente a tomar parte nas discussões sobre as linhas gerais que se aplicarão a todos os projetos Wikiversidade. Além disso, eles são encorajados a postar [[Wikiversity:Reports/En|relatórios (en)]] sobre seus projetos para que todos saibam como estão evoluindo.


;O que vem depois?
:Agora nós precisamos de pessoas que participem das discussões no Wikiversidade Beta. Pessoas de projetos separados já existentes e pessoas que desejam contribuir para um futuro projeto separado deveriam se juntar nas discussões e trabalhar juntas. Pessoas que não falam inglês são encorajadas a participar das discussões mas nós também precisamos de tradutores para os sumários das discussões. 


;Seu sistema multilingual não vai funcionar. Ele requer muitos tradutores.
:Se as pessoas realmente sumarizarem suas discussões, isso vai não só ajudá-las a se concentrar nas coisas importantes, como também ajudará quando for feita a tradução. Dez dias após a abertura da wikiversidade Beta, sua página já estava disponível em cinco línguas. 
:A propósito (isto é só uma proposta), se todos falarem inglês, muito bem, não será necessário traduzir nada. Se o sistema não funcionar, pelo menos podemos dizer que tentamos.


;Para um projeto de coordenação, seria mais prático se fosse escolhida somente uma língua para ser usada nas discussões.
:É claro que seria mais prático; a questão é: nós devemos administrar o Beta de forma a facilitar as coisas aos falantes de língua inglesa ou de forma a que todos possam tomar parte nas discussões sobre as linhas gerais que irão se aplicar a todos os projetos?


;Slogan da Wikiversidade Beta?
:Quanto menor, melhor. Se você quer que suas idéias alcancem pessoas que falam outras línguas, escreva sumários curtos e compreendíveis.


;O que a Wikiversidade Beta oferece além do Meta?
:Wikiversidade Beta formula novas (dentro de projetos da fundação Wikimedia) políticas de pesquisa para a Wikiversidade.
:Wikiversidade Beta tenta ser uma plataforma multi-lingual de discussão.


;Por que nós precisamos da Wikiversidade Beta ao invés de usar o Wikimedia Incubator?
:


;E sobre projetos Wikiversidade que atualmente estão nos Wikilivros, incluindo versões não inglesas da Wikiversidade?
:


;Qual é o sentido por trás da separação da Wikiversidade em várias línguas separadas? Não seria melhor criar cursos e relatórios de pesquisa em um ambiente multilingual como o Beta e traduzí-los em várias línguas a medida em que novas páginas se tornarem disponíveis?
:


== Notas e Referências ==

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Sê bem-vindo. &lt;span style=&quot;font-variant:small-caps&quot;&gt;[[User:SallesNeto BR|Salles Neto]]&lt;/span&gt; [[Image:Bandeira_de_Roraima.svg|24px|Roraima]] &lt;sup&gt;[[user talk:SallesNeto_BR|@]]&lt;/sup&gt; 19:31, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

:[http://beta.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=Help:FAQ/Pt&amp;curid=2075&amp;diff=4220&amp;oldid=4219 &lt;big&gt;=D&lt;/big&gt;] &lt;span style=&quot;font-variant:small-caps&quot;&gt;[[User:SallesNeto BR|Salles Neto]]&lt;/span&gt; [[Image:Bandeira_de_Roraima.svg|24px|Roraima]] &lt;sup&gt;[[user talk:SallesNeto_BR|@]]&lt;/sup&gt; 15:37, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

::Desativaste a opção &quot;atalhos automáticos&quot; nas preferências? Verifica. Para mim aparece o &quot;pt&quot; na barra. E obrigado por teres traduzido tudo naquela página =D! Estou apressado, depois falamo-nos melhor. Abraços, &lt;span style=&quot;font-variant:small-caps&quot;&gt;[[User:SallesNeto BR|Salles Neto]]&lt;/span&gt; [[Image:Bandeira_de_Roraima.svg|24px|Roraima]] &lt;sup&gt;[[user talk:SallesNeto_BR|@]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:20, 20 November 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">Obrigado pelas correções em [[project:wikiversidade]]. --[[User:Slade|Slade]] &lt;sup&gt;[[m:User:Slade|meta]]&lt;/sup&gt; 02:21, 18 November 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">Bem vindo, Neko! --[[User:Slade|Slade]] &lt;sup&gt;[[m:User:Slade|meta]]&lt;/sup&gt; 02:25, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

:[http://beta.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=Wikiversity:Wikiversidade/Divis%C3%B5es&amp;curid=2074&amp;diff=4147&amp;oldid=4146 E obrigado por já estar ajudando!] &lt;span style=&quot;font-variant:small-caps&quot;&gt;[[User:SallesNeto BR|Salles Neto]]&lt;/span&gt; [[Image:Bandeira_de_Roraima.svg|24px|Roraima]] &lt;sup&gt;[[user talk:SallesNeto_BR|@]]&lt;/sup&gt; 02:02, 19 November 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">諸位好，在下是ItsMine，外號孔明居士，望能盡一點綿力，讓Wikiversity能茁壯成長。若有事要聯絡我，可至[[User talk:Itsmine|對話頁]]。</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">C EST NE SIMPLE QUESTION POUR TOUTS LES ETUDIENT DE TOUT LUNIVER AQUELQUIN A UN IDEE DE CHANGER L EDUCATION DANS LA RUE</text>
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My name is '''João Carvalho''' and I'am a ''sysop'' on PT.Wikipedia.

I'm a [[w:pt:Portugal|portuguese]] from [[w:pt:Lisboa|Lisboa]].</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">[http://beta.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=Help:FAQ/Pt&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=4149 Bem-vindo e obrigado, João!] [[User:200.191.194.83|200.191.194.83]] 02:00, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:Ops... era eu acima. &lt;span style=&quot;font-variant:small-caps&quot;&gt;[[User:SallesNeto BR|Salles Neto]]&lt;/span&gt; [[Image:Bandeira_de_Roraima.svg|24px|Roraima]] &lt;sup&gt;[[user talk:SallesNeto_BR|@]]&lt;/sup&gt; 02:01, 19 November 2006 (UTC)</text>
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{{Wikiversity}}
本頁是維基大學成為維基媒體基金會姐妹計劃的修訂提案.

本頁第一段(&quot;維基大學計劃的歷史&quot;, 如下) 描述維基大學計劃的原本提案的産生 。[[#使命|第二段]], 從&quot;使命&quot;開始,是修訂提案 。

==維基大學計劃的歷史==
在2005 年8月, Wikibooks[[:en:b:Wikibooks:Votes for deletion/Wikiversity|提議刪除]][[:en:b:Wikiversity|Wikiversity]]。
旋即有Wikiversity成為維基媒體一獨立計劃之[[meta:Proposals for new projects#Wikiversity|提議]]。

此外, 元維基[[Wikiversity|Wikiversity頁]]和一通[http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2005-August/003857.html 電郵]描述了維基大學計劃的原提案. 

這裡是 Wikiversity 舊提案 : [[Wikiversity:Original proposal]].


以下('''第二段''')是維基大學計劃'''修訂提案'''

== 使命 ==
'''''維基大學乃創造及使用自由研習敎材和活動之中心。''''' 其主要目的是：
*創造一系列內容自由，多語言，多程度之教材；
*主持學習計劃，支援研究社羣；
*與現有各維基媒體計劃互補 （例如，一項為維基百科文章找資料來源之計劃）。

參見[[Wikiversity:Scope]] 及[[Wikiversity:Online Course]]. 為實現此使命，維基學者亦將開展實質之目標與項目以支援學習與創造新教材。 尤其者，在 beta 測試階段，維基大學將編寫其 主持與推動基於維基媒體之'''研究''' 之指引與政策。

==學習 ==
'''維基大學電子學習模式'''. 現存之「磚與瓦」大學前身為學者會聚之所，有道者教，有志者學。 維基大學將成為網上學者聚會之所, 一主持靈活自由研習之維基環境。

傳統大學的發展，環繞課室，課程，評分，學位頒發，教員資歴，院校評核，學生需交學費，教員受薪等，皆因其需要集中難得人才與資源於一地。
維基大學電子學習模式盡此摒棄。此模式以維基為基，解放學習於傳統時空限掣。 參見[[Wikiversity:Learning]].

===學習小組===
在此環境中，維基學者不期然會組成多隊&quot;[[Learning community|學習社羣]]&quot;, 以共同創作與維修各學習途徑，各主題之門户頁，各研習計劃與資料. 
這些學習羣組將包括 help desks 負責組, 指導隊, cohort groups, 辯論會 - 實質工作可以有：代維基百科研究，寫維基程序碼－－維基之道, 寓學習於合作與討論中。 

維基大學人將積極參與各網上學習計劃。正如任何維基，維基大學社羣之活動主要為編寫維基頁。維基大學之每一學習計劃將包括一組探討某一特定課題之網頁。一些維基大學的學習計劃會圍繞現有維基媒體計劃之需求。
例如，參與者可以組織一計劃，來為維基百科現有條目找尋證據來源；參與亦可一齊學習已知的學術科目，並將其所得寫成一書，歸入維基教科書。 因此，維基學府將與現有維基媒體計劃互補，提供支援學術性「次生研究」之環境。 維基學院開始時會偏向支援其他現有維基媒體計劃之學習活動，但其後將發展至照顧其本身社羣之需。學生可以提出其學習要求，而維基學府將發展(''evolve'')相應之學習活動與計劃。另一些社羣亦可更循序漸進地(''didactically'')以「指導」與「習作」(''instructions or tasks to be followed'')之方式編寫內容。無論如何，必有一社羣以支援與發展維基學府主持之內容。見[[Wikiversity:學習]]與[[Wikiversity:網上課程]]。

== 學術資源 ==
'''學術資源'''包括輔助教材，教案，課程，連結，閱讀計劃等。 每一範圍（或「課題」、「計劃」），即每一「社區」，負責創作一網絡的資源，以供維基學院內外作討論與學術活動之原料。一些學習資源會連結其他維基媒體上之資源，以促進雙方發展。（練習 (? practice)、討論、反思、批評等）

== 研究 ==
維基太學可整理儲存[[meta:Wikimedia Research Network|維基媒體研究網]]或其他以維基為本之[[wikiversity:research|研究]],亦可管理「[[meta:為維基狂|為維基狂]]」之紀錄。 維基杏壇會否主持原創研究，須更深入討論（見[[meta:Talk:Wikiversity/Modified project proposal|討論頁]]），雖然基於維基學院內容之[[Primary research|原創研究]] 是可以的（例如社會學內容啓發之調查計畫(''survey project'')）。於維基大學 beta 測試期， 參與者社羣將共同發展 研究指引； 而半年後[[特别項目小組]] 將審議此指引。  研究不一定會被許可，但需要一些機制以處理可能發生之問題。(''There will not ''necessarily'' be &quot;approval&quot; of research added to Wikiversity - though some sort of review process needs to be established which will deal with potential problems.'')

== Wikiversity 範圍==
===[[Wikiversity:Scope/Zh|維基學院是]]===
*'''多語言自由教學資源庫'''
*'''創造與使用這些資源之社羣網'''
*'''集體學習。'''.  可能由一專業導師帶領。亦可能無。

===[[Wikiversity/What Wikiversity is not|維基學院不]]===
*'''重覆其他維基計劃'''. 維基學府與其他維基媒體計劃互補, 但不會只重覆其內容。若你要看看(''to read about'')一課題，可往維基百科或維基書；但若你要學習(''to learn about'') 此課題，則可到維基學府。維基學府將製作其教材，亦可利用或加強(''consolidate'')其他維基媒體計劃上的內容，例如：維基學者可以據其所得編寫新文章或新手冊（''manual'')。重覆將有，唯各計劃維持其主旨。
*'''頒發學位''': 維基學府不會頒授學位或其他學術名號；只有現實中的教授方可自稱「教授」。

我們希望維基學院的工作將有用於其他維基媒體計劃。維基學者獲得之顯著(''significant'')結果，可用以改良其他維基媒體計劃，甚而其他網上學習、參攷與資訊庫計劃。

參見：[[Wikiversity:What Wikiversity is not]] 與[[Wikiversity:Scope]]。

==維基學院日後或會用到之工具==
* Meta資料(''Metadata'') - 現有工作於 Metadata patch, 將來可補加諸維基大學.
* 頁面保護 - 可能需要限制某些頁面的編輯權（例如限於其研究組）。然而，必須慬慎而行，以免排斥參與者。
*'''編程''' - 維基學府暫不須特别軟件，但我們歡迎參與者嘗試擴充源碼以助維基學府運作。若要實行這些念頭，須經正式渠道（當為[[:meta:Special projects committee|特别事項小組]])。

==進一步討論==
吾人曾多次討論如何修訂原維基versity計劃，以滿足理事會之要求。請見：
*[[meta:Talk:Wikiversity/Archive 3#Current status]]
*[[meta:Moving Wikiversity forward]]
*[[b:Talk:Wikiversity#Decision on Wikiversity?]]

Please place all additional discussion of modifications to the Wikiversity proposal on the [[Talk:Wikiversity/Modified project proposal|discussion page]] for the modified proposal.

{{WikiversityUsers}}

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      <comment>/* Voorstel voor een nieuw systeem */</comment>
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Wikiversiteit is een wereldwijd platform met het doel om projecten van Wikiversity te coördineren in verschillende talen. Om te kunnen profiteren van de bijdrage van de vele leden (meertalig) zal Beta een efficiënt multilinguaal systeem opzetten voor het houden van discussies.

== Bestaande systeem ==

Multilinguïsme is vaak een eenzijdig concept: Eerst is er een oorspronkelijke pagina in het engels, die vertaald wordt voor niet engelstalige lezers. Het grootste probleem van dit systeem is dat niet engelstalige schrijvers niet deel kunnen nemen in de discussie. Ze kunnen alleen passief de vertaling lezen. Dit probleem zal in Nederland (misschien ook Vlaanderen en Suriname?) wel meevallen, maar in andere landen van de wereld waar de engelse taal minder beheersd wordt, worden op deze manier veel mensen buitengesloten.

Deze problemen, waarover gediscussieerd wordt op Beta, gaan Wikiversities in verscheidene talen aan. Daarom is het noodzakelijk om de meningen te horen van deelnemers van alle projecten.

== Voorstel voor een nieuw systeem ==

Dit systeem heeft na het uittesten zeer negatieve feedback gekregen en zal waarschijlijk niet toegepast worden.

''Je bent welkom om over dit voorstel te discussiëren op de overleg pagina.''

&lt;div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;width:50%;display:block;float:left;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion1.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''1''' - Deelnemers die een nieuwe discussie willen starten, schrijven een korte samenvatting waar het over gaat en voegen een link bij naar de coördinerende hoofdpagina.]]
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;width:49%;display:block;float:right;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion2.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''2''' - Vertalers vertalen de samenvatting naar andere talen, en voegen links bij op de coördinatie pagina.]]
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&lt;div style=&quot;width:50%;display:block;float:left;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion3.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''3''' - Op elke overlegpagina van een taal zal men discussiëren, meningen geven en vragen stellen. Ze schrijven een korte paragraaf hierover en zetten dit op de subpagina van hun taal met een nieuw ID-nummer. Op de coördinerende hoofdpagina, zal ze het ID-nummer zetten met een link naar de samenvatting.]]
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&lt;div style=&quot;width:49%;display:block;float:right;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion4.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''4''' - Vertalers zullen regelmatig de coördinatie pagina controleren en een reflectie geven van de nieuwe samenvatting op hun pagina (met dezelfde ID). Ze zetten een link naar hun hoofdpagina.]]
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&lt;div style=&quot;width:50%;display:block;float:left;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion5.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''5''' - De discussie zet zich voort. Elke nieuwe samenvatting krijgt een unieke ID-nummer waarmee die geïdentificeerd wordt op de coördinatie pagina en op subpagina's van elke taal.]]
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=== Guidelines to make this system work ===
* '''Hoe korter, hoe beter.''' Beknoptheid is belangrijk voor een efficiënte multilinguale discussie. Lange paragrafen zullen waarschijnlijk niet vertaald worden, en niet gereflecteerd worden op pagina's van andere talen. Dit betekent dat sommige ideeën, kritiek en vragen geen aandacht zullen krijgen.
* '''Geef aan :''' wanneer een discussie start. Een discussie moeten opgegeven worden op [[Wikiversity:Announcements/En]].
* '''Numering van paragrafen:''' Paragrafen krijgen een nummer, zodat ze makkelijk geïdentificeerd worden: de eerste samenvatting is #1, nieuwe samenvattingen volgen. Dit betekent dat deelnemers andere pagina's moeten controleren voordat ze een paragraaf op hun pagina zetten. Zo is men er zeker van dat de informatie up-to-date is. Zo worden nieuwe conflicten met nummering voorkomen.

=== Voordelen van dit systeem ===
* Iedereen kan deel uitmaken van de discussie.
* Deelnemers zullen het kort moeten houden en zich op specifieke onderwerpen moeten richten.
* Het zal waarschijnlijk zijn dat er consensus optreedt tussen deelnemers, ongeacht verschillen in taal.

=== Nadelen ===
* Dit systeem is afhankelijk van een aantal vertalers en hun efficiëntie.

== Vertaling ==
Als je een of meerdere talen beheersd, dan kun je je opgeven op de lijst van vertalers '''[[Wikiversity:Translation]]'''.

==Zie ook==

* [[Wikiversity:Language select/En]]


&lt;!--== Internal Links ==
* [[Meta:Babel templates|Language skill templates]] (Babel templates): Je kunt op je Gebruikerspagina aangeven wat jouw taalkundige vaardigheden zijn.

* Links voor andere samenwerkingen tussen talen zijn te vinden op [[Meta:Interlanguage links|Meta]] en [[w:en:Wikipedia:Interlanguage links|en:Wikipedia]], [[Talk:Interwiki bot]] (updater van links) 
* Samenvatting van de verschillende Wikipedia's naar taal:  '''[[Wikipedia language overviews]]''' (Heeft medewerking nodig!) | [[Complete list of wikimedia projects]]

* Samenwerking tussen talen: [[Interlingual coordination]]([[Interlingual_coordination#Links_relevant_to_coordination|links]]) | [[w:en:Wikipedia:Multilingual coordination|en:Multiling Coordination]] (kwesties en een lijst van WP's), [[w:en:Wikipedia:Local Embassy|Local Embassies]] om bezoekers te helpen om te wennen aan een lokale WP
* Samenwerking tussen talen: [[Thoughts_on_Multilingualism]] (essay door Jmabel (ca. 12/2003) over het benoemen van objecten, pagina's, mensen van verschillende talen). 
* [[Meta:Conventions for multilingualism]]

* Vertaling: [[w:en:Wikipedia:Translation into English|...in Engels]] - fab project (door Jmabel) van voorstel voor vertalingen (ook [[de:Wikipedia:Übersetzungen|...in het duits]], [[fr:Wikipédia:Traductions en cours|...frans]], [[ja:Wikipedia:翻訳依頼|...Japans]], [[ro:Wikipedia:Articole de tradus|...Roemeens]], [[zh-cn:Wikipedia:待翻译文章|...gesimplificeerd Chinees]], and [[zh:Wikipedia:待翻譯文章|...traditioneel Chinees]]), and [[w:en:Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English|en:Pages needing translation]] - onvoldoende feitenmateriaal op engelse pagina's: moeten opgelost worden.
** Middelen: [[w:en:Wikipedia:Language recognition chart|Lang recognition chart]] om ongewone karakterset's te identificeren.
** Translation Group in [http://wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikiversity Wikiversity]: &amp;nbsp;[http://wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikiversidad:Área_de_Traducción Español] | [http://wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikiversity%3ATranslation_practice_course English]--&gt;

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      <text xml:space="preserve">*I started the page [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/Nl]].  I am sorry that I do not know Dutch.  The text is from [[wikiversity:multilingualism/En]]. --[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]-[[User talk:hillgentleman|User talk]] 08:37, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

*Please also check [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism]] - Is the following correct? ''meertaligheid op wikiuniversiteit''. ---[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]-[[User talk:hillgentleman|User talk]] 08:42, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

*Please add an  ''nl'' line to [[template:browse]].  That would make the multi-lingual system work for your language.--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]-[[User talk:hillgentleman|User talk]] 08:47, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

*The problem was that you created a double-redirect.  I have moved the page back to [[wikiversity:multilingualism/Nl]].   On beta, we keep the pages  in different languages under one (usually English)  heading.  --[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]-[[User talk:hillgentleman|User talk]] 00:39, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

== Re : European Project ==

Hello,
eContentPlus call is over now, but I was sure that those deadlines was too short.
I just wanted to show that it could be possible to begin such a project on a future call. 
I am sure it would help to give wikiversity the necessary help for the begining, because I think it could be a real resource for exchange of ideas between universities.

Unfortunatly I have too much work now to spend time on this before begining of 2007.

[[User:JmG|JmG]] 13:57, 21 November 2006 (UTC)</text>
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&lt;big&gt;'''[http://beta.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=User_Discussion:Gdamasceno&amp;action=edit&amp;section=new Send a message]'''&lt;/big&gt;

==Outros Projetos/Other Projects==
*[[w:pt:Usuário:Gdamasceno|Eu na Wiki.pt/Me at Wikipédia]]
*[[w:en:User:Gdamasceno|Eu na Wiki.en/Me at Wikipedia]]
*[[w:pt:n:Usuário:Gdamasceno|Eu no Wikinotícias.pt/Me at Wikinews.pt]]
*[[commons:User:Gdamasceno|Eu no Commons/Me at Commons]]
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    <title>Wikiversity talk:Multilingualism/Nl</title>
    <id>2089</id>
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      <timestamp>2006-11-30T18:57:35Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Daanschr</username>
        <id>149</id>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">Ik heb het allemaal erg snel vertaald, dus er is discussie mogelijk over het woordgebruik. 

Ik vindt het woord Wikiversiteit lelijk klinken en besloot het engelse woord Wikiversity te gebruiken. Ik kan me voorstellen dat hier bezwaar tegen kan komen en sta volledig open voor suggesties van anderen.--[[User:Daanschr|Daanschr]] 12:48, 19 November 2006 (UTC)</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Wikiversity talk:Multilingualism/En</title>
    <id>2094</id>
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      <timestamp>2006-11-19T13:39:04Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Daanschr</username>
        <id>149</id>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">==Problems with the proposition at present==
Insisting on being short can be bad for a discussion where the details are more important then the concepts.

I see a few major problems in summarizing all contributions of participants of a discussion of the same language. 1) It ends the individual perspective, which means less freedom, more bureaucracy and politics and less consideration for objectivity and subjectivity. 2) Languages will be politically put against eachother. Political blocks of languages will be formed. 3) A speaker of a language with lots of participants will have less influence on a debate, then a speaker of a language with a small amount of participants, but enough translators. 

I don't agree that consensus will be reached. My experience in life, on Usenet, on Wikipedia is that people nearly always keep their own views. These views will confront eachother in unendless powerstruggles. A method to prevent politization could be decentralization and deregulation.

My proposition is that translators will translate individual input into other languages instead of translating summaries. To make sure that all languages can partake to a discussion, it will be required that an organization will be formed that organizes discussions and which will allocate resources (people) to tasks (with deadlines). What must be ensured to my opinion is the freedom of those who join a discussion.--[[User:Daanschr|Daanschr]] 13:39, 19 November 2006 (UTC)</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Wikiversity:Mission/Pt</title>
    <id>2095</id>
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      <id>4222</id>
      <timestamp>2006-11-19T17:08:09Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Danilodn</username>
        <id>83</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>pt</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Wikiversity:Mission}}

'''''Wikiversidade é um centro livre para criação e uso de material e atividades de ensino.''''' Suas prioridades primárias e objetivos são:

*Criar e hospedar uma gama de material livre, material/recursos de ensino multilingual, para todos os grupos de idades em todas as línguas;
*Hospedar projetos de aprendizagem escolar e comunidades que suportem estes materiais
*Complementar e desenvolver projetos existente Wikimedia (isto é, um projeto voltado a encontrar boas fontes para artigos da Wikipedia)

Na consecução da sua missão, outras tarefas e objetivos podem ser iniciados e desenvolvidos pelos participantes para suportar o aprendizado e a criação de novo conteúdo. Em particular, linhas mestras serão desenvolvidas durante a fase beta do desenvolvimento da Wikiversidade em hospedar e encorajar ''pesquisa'' baseada em parte em recursos existentes na Wikiversidade e outros projetos Wikimedia.

==Fonte==
*[http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Approved_Wikiversity_project_proposal (en) Proposta de aprovação do projeto Wikiversidade]

==Ver também==
*[[Wikiversity:Research|(en) Wikiversidade:Pesquisa]]

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  <page>
    <title>User:Sainte-Rose</title>
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      <contributor>
        <username>Sainte-Rose</username>
        <id>62</id>
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      <minor />
      <comment>correct lien</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Sainte-Rose Sainte-Rose userpage on Wikipedia]</text>
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    <title>Wikiversity:Language select/Pt</title>
    <id>2097</id>
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      <timestamp>2006-11-19T18:47:44Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Danilodn</username>
        <id>83</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>pt</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Wikiversity:Language select}}

''Para uma versão mais detalhada desta funcionalidade, veja [[m:Meta:Language select|Meta:Language select]].''


'''[[m:Meta:Language select|Language select]]''' permite aos usuários ocultar línguas estrangeiras em páginas multilinguais. Isto seria, por exemplo, permitir que um leitor francês visualizasse apenas textos em francês em páginas multilinguais (embora eles ainda possam ver espanhol em uma página escrita somente em espanhol).

== Como selecionar uma língua ==

* Para selecionar uma língua, entre seu [[List of ISO 639-1 codes|código ISO 639-1]] na caixa de texto (&lt;code&gt;en&lt;/code&gt; para inglês), e clique em &lt;big&gt;➤&lt;/big&gt;.
* Se você quiser mostrar todas as línguas, digite &lt;code&gt;mul&lt;/code&gt; ou clique em &lt;big&gt;⋙&lt;/big&gt;.

== Uso ==
&lt;!--
=== Identificando páginas multilinguais ===
Páginas que implementan a seleção de línguas incluem um aviso usando {{tl|multilingual}}.
--&gt;
=== JavaScript ===
O método de JavaScript é ativado por padrão na Wikiversidade Beta. Você pode desabilitá-lo adicionando a seguinte linha a [[Special:Mypage/monobook.js|seu arquivo de script]]. &lt;pre&gt;ls_enable = false;&lt;/pre&gt;

Você pode ver um exemplo do JavaScript em ação abaixo. Se a seleção de línguas estiver desabilitada, todo o texto será mostrado.

&lt;div class=&quot;multilingual&quot;&gt;
{{ls|ca|Aquest text és en català.}}
{{ls|de|Dieser Text ist Deutsch.}}
{{ls|en|This text is English.}}
{{ls|fr|Ce texte est Français.}}
{{ls|pt|Este texto está em Português.}}
{{ls|sc|Custu testu est in Sardu.}}
{{ls|la|Haec nota Latine scriptus est.}}
{{ls|zh|这些文字是中文。}}
&lt;/div&gt;

Você pode visualizar o código JavaScript em [{{fullurl:MediaWiki:Monobook.js|action=render}} MediaWiki:Monobook.js].

== Delimitando línguas ==

O modelo {{[[Template:ls|ls]]}} simplifica a implementação da seleção de línguas. 

&lt;pre&gt;{{ls|en|This text is English.}}
&lt;/pre&gt;


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    <title>Wikiversity:Multilingualism/Pt</title>
    <id>2098</id>
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      <id>4234</id>
      <timestamp>2006-11-19T19:25:56Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Danilodn</username>
        <id>83</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>pt</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Wikiversity:Multilingualism}}
Wikiversidade Beta é uma plataforma global visando coordenar projetos Wikiversidade em várias línguas. Para obter benefícios das inserções dos seus muitos membros (não apenas escritores em língua inglesa), Beta deve possuir um eficiente sistema de discussão multilingual.

== Sistema existente ==

Multilingualismo é freqüentemente um conceito de mão única: primeiro há uma página fonte em inglês, então as pessoas as traduzem para se tornarem compreendíveis para leitores que não entendem inglês. A principal desvantagem deste sistema é que leitores que não entendem inglês não podem participar da discussão, tudo o que eles podem fazer é passivamente ler o que é traduzido. 

Como os assuntos discutidos no Beta dizem respeito às Wikiversidades em todas as línguas, é necessário que participantes de todos os projetos possam dar sua opinião.

== Sistema proposto ==

''Discussão sobre essa proposta é bem-vinda na página de discussão.''

&lt;div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;width:50%;display:block;float:left;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion1.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''1''' - Participantes iniciando uma nova discussão escrevem um sumário curto sobre o assunto e adicionam um link na página principal da coordenação.]]
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;width:49%;display:block;float:right;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion2.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''2''' - Tradutores traduzem o sumário para outra língua , e adicionam os links na página de coordenação.]]
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;width:50%;display:block;float:left;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion3.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''3''' - Nas páginaa de discussão de cada língua, pessoas discutem, dão opiniões e respondem dúvidas. Eles escrevem um parágrafo curto sumarizando isso e escrevem na subpágina da língua com um novo número de identificação. Na página principal da coordenação, eles adicionam o número de identificação e o link para seu sumário.]]
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;width:49%;display:block;float:right;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion4.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''4''' - Tradutores regularmente checam a página de coordenação e espelham o novo sumário em sua página (com o mesmo ID). Eles adicionam links da página principal.]]
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;width:50%;display:block;float:left;align:center;&quot;&gt; 
[[Image:Discussion5.svg|400px|center|thumb|'''5''' - A discussão continua. Cada novo sumário recebe um novo número único de identificação que remete a ele na página de coordenação e em todas as subpáginas de línguas.]]
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;

=== Guia para fazer esse sistema funcionar ===
* '''Quanto mais curto melhor.''' Concisão é a chave para discussões multilinguais eficientes. Parágrafos longos provavelmente não serão traduzidos, nem espelhados em outras páginas de línguas. Isso significa que possíveis idéias / críticas / dúvidas não receberão nenhuma atenção.
* '''Aviso :''' quando uma discussão se inicia, deveria ser anunciada em [[Wikiversity:Announcements/En]].
* '''Numeração de parágrafos:''' Parágrafos deveriam ser numerados para facilmente serem identificados: o primeiro sumário é #1, novos sumários o seguem. Isso significa que participantes devem checar as outras páginas antes de adicionar um parágrafo na sua página para terem certeza de que ela está atualizada e evitar conflito de números.

=== Benefícios deste sistema ===
* Todos podem tomar parte na discussão.
* Os participantes precisam ser breves e focar os tópicos.
* É mais fácil obter consenso entre todos os participantes não importa de qual língua sejam.

=== Desvantagens ===
* Este sistema depende do número de tradutores e sua eficiência.

== Tradução ==

Se você tem domínio de mais de uma língua, se inclua na lista de tradutores em '''[[Wikiversity:Translation]]'''.

==Ver também==

* [[Wikiversity:Language select/En]]


&lt;!--== Internal Links ==
* [[Meta:Babel templates|Language skill templates]] (Babel templates): you can indicate your linguistic skills on your user page.

* Interlanguage links on [[Meta:Interlanguage links|Meta]] and [[w:en:Wikipedia:Interlanguage links|en:Wikipedia]], [[Talk:Interwiki bot]] (updater of links) 
* Summary of the various-language Wikipedias:  '''[[Wikipedia language overviews]]''' (needs contribution!) | [[Complete list of wikimedia projects]]

* Multilingual coordination: [[Interlingual coordination]]([[Interlingual_coordination#Links_relevant_to_coordination|links]]) | [[w:en:Wikipedia:Multilingual coordination|en:Multiling Coordination]] (issues and list of WPs), [[w:en:Wikipedia:Local Embassy|Local Embassies]] for helping visitors get used to your local WP
* Multilingual style: [[Thoughts_on_Multilingualism]] (essay by Jmabel (ca. 12/2003) on  naming objects, pages, people originally from other langs). 
* [[Meta:Conventions for multilingualism]]

* Translation: [[w:en:Wikipedia:Translation into English|...into English]] - fab project (by Jmabel) to request/fill transl requests (also [[de:Wikipedia:Übersetzungen|...into German]], [[fr:Wikipédia:Traductions en cours|...into French]], [[ja:Wikipedia:翻訳依頼]], [[ro:Wikipedia:Articole de tradus|...into Romanian]], [[zh-cn:Wikipedia:待翻译文章|...into Simplified Chinese]], and [[zh:Wikipedia:待翻譯文章|...into Traditional Chinese]]), and [[w:en:Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English|en:Pages needing translation]] - garbled pages on en: needing to be salvaged.
** Tools: [[w:en:Wikipedia:Language recognition chart|Lang recognition chart]] for identifying unfamiliar charactersets.
** Translation Group in [http://wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikiversity Wikiversity]: &amp;nbsp;[http://wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikiversidad:Área_de_Traducción Español] | [http://wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikiversity%3ATranslation_practice_course English]--&gt;

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    <title>Wikiversity:Meertaligheid/Nl</title>
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      <id>4252</id>
      <timestamp>2006-11-20T00:54:21Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Hillgentleman</username>
        <id>30</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Redirecting to [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/Nl]]</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">#REDIRECT [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/Nl]]</text>
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    <title>Wikiversity talk:Meertaligheid/Nl</title>
    <id>2100</id>
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      <timestamp>2006-11-20T00:57:37Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Hillgentleman</username>
        <id>30</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>typographical error</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">#REDIRECT [[Wikiversity talk:Multilingualism/Nl]]</text>
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    <title>Wikiversity:Tweetaligheid/Nl</title>
    <id>2101</id>
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      <timestamp>2006-11-20T00:35:09Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Hillgentleman</username>
        <id>30</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>[[Wikiversity:Tweetaligheid/Nl]] moved to [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/Nl]]: Move back</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">#REDIRECT [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/Nl]]</text>
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    <title>Wikiversity talk:Tweetaligheid/Nl</title>
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      <timestamp>2006-11-20T00:35:09Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Hillgentleman</username>
        <id>30</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>[[Wikiversity talk:Tweetaligheid/Nl]] moved to [[Wikiversity talk:Multilingualism/Nl]]: Move back</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">#REDIRECT [[Wikiversity talk:Multilingualism/Nl]]</text>
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    <title>Wikiversity talk:Wikiversidade/Divisões</title>
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      <timestamp>2006-11-21T19:23:43Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>SallesNeto BR</username>
        <id>43</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">*Troquei as palavras neófito, iniciado e confirmado, de uso mais comum na França por &quot;básico&quot;, &quot;médio&quot; e &quot;avançado&quot;, para identificar o nível das lições (ou dos usuários que irão ter as lições). [[User:Danilodn|User:Danilodn&amp;#124;danilo_br]] 00:44, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

:Ok. &lt;span style=&quot;font-variant:small-caps&quot;&gt;[[User:SallesNeto BR|Salles Neto]]&lt;/span&gt; [[Image:Bandeira_de_Roraima.svg|24px|Roraima]] &lt;sup&gt;[[user talk:SallesNeto_BR|@]]&lt;/sup&gt; 19:23, 21 November 2006 (UTC)</text>
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*請在頁底開始新論題 ; &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title={{TALKPAGENAMEE}}&amp;action=edit&amp;section=new 按這裡開始一新論題]&lt;/span&gt;.
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El desarrollo de la política, de las pautas y de la comunidad respecto a la investigación en Wikiversity se puede facilitar estudiando los documentos de origen del proyecto de Wikiversity.

==1==
&lt;big&gt;'''Documentos fundacionales'''&lt;/big&gt;

Ha habido dos propuestas de proyecto de Wikiversity. La oferta de [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiversity#Mission proyecto original] fue rechazada por la Comisión Administrativa de la fundación de Wikimedia. [[:es:Wikiversidad:Propuesta aprobada de la Wikiversidad|La segunda oferta]] de proyecto de Wikiversity fue aprobada.

===De la primera oferta de proyecto===

* Misión: El propósito del proyecto de Wikiversity, que residirá en última instancia en www.wikiversity.org, es construir una institución electrónica de aprender que sea utilizada para probar los límites del modelo del wiki para desarrollar recursos de aprendizaje electrónicos así como para la enseñanza y para la investigación y publicar sus resultados (dentro de un marco de la política desarrollado por la comunidad).

===De la oferta de proyecto aprobada===

* Misión: … las “pautas serán desarrolladas durante la fase beta del desarrollo de Wikiversity en el recibimiento y la investigación que fomenta basada en parte sobre recursos existentes en Wikiversity y otros proyectos de Wikimedia”…

* Investigación secundaria:
** “Estos grupos/comunidades serán puestos de información, equipos mentores, grupos de estudiantes que trabajan en conjunto, clubs de discusión - los usos prácticos podrían estar en hacer la investigación para Wikipedia”…
** … “Wikiversity complementará naturalmente los proyectos existentes de Wikimedia proporcionando un ambiente que apoye y fomente “la investigación secundaria del estudiante”.”

* Investigación original: “Wikiversity podía actuar como un depósito de la investigación realizada por la [[Red de Investigación de Wikimedia]] u otra gente implicada en la investigación bajo wiki, y podría también recibir los procedimientos de Wikimania. Si Wikiversity permitirá la investigación original o no además de la investigación secundaria es el tema de discusión (véase la página de discusión de la oferta de proyecto). Investigación original podría ocurrir sin embargo basado en los materiales en Wikiversity (por ejemplo, los materiales sobre sociología incitan un proyecto de investigación). Las pautas para las cuáles sería la investigación apropiada serán desarrolladas durante la fase beta del proyecto con un proceso de consenso de la comunidad, y repasadas (por el comité especial de proyectos) después de seis meses. No habrá necesariamente “aprobación” de la investigación agregada a Wikiversity - aunque hará falta un cierto proceso de revisión que se ocupará de problemas potenciales.”

==2==
&lt;big&gt;'''Los comentarios en Wikimania 2006'''&lt;/big&gt;

(traducido de [http://wikimania2006.wikimedia.org/wiki/Opening_Plenary_%28transcript%29#Wikiversity_.2826:35.29 esta fuente])

* “..... la idea aquí es también recibir a comunidades de aprendizaje, para que quienes están intentando aprender, realmente tengan un lugar donde venir y trabajar recíprocamente y para ayudarse los unos a los otros en el proceso de cómo aprender. También vamos a recibir y fomentar la investigación en cómo estos métodos se pueden utilizar con más eficacia.”

==3==
&lt;big&gt;Las instrucciones del 14 de agosto de 2006 del Comité'''&lt;/big&gt;

([http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2006-August/009074.html fuente], por el miembro del Consejo [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Anthere Anthere])

* “..... las pautas deben desarrollarse, * particularmente * en lo que respecta a la investigación colaborativa. Esperaríamos que sean estas pautas tanto cuanto sea posible desarrolladas en el sitio beta (particularmente investigación colaborativa), de modo que todos los idiomas compartan una meta común y algunas reglas comunes no negociables.” ver la nota 1
* “Al finalizar este período (beta) de 6 meses, el proyecto será repasado, particularmente para calificar la aplicación de la investigación colaborativa, y si es posible definir si la etapa beta se da por concluida. La revisión la realizará el SPC.” ver la nota 2

==4==
''Nuevas discusiones''.

==Notas==

* [1] - el “sitio beta” significa Wikiversity beta
* [2] - el “Spc” es el comité especial de los proyectos.

==Ver también==

* [[Wikiversity:Secondary research/En|Investigación secundaria]] - investigación en un asunto usando el método de revisión de literatura existente.
* [[Wikiversity:Original research/En|Investigación original]] - investigación inédita en un asunto usando la revisión de la literatura y/o métodos además de la revisión de la literatura
* [[Wikiversity:Scope of research/En|Alcance de la investigación]] - ¿debe Wikiversity permitir todos los tipos de investigación, incluyendo la investigación original?
* [[Wikiversity:Research guidelines|Pautas de la investigación]] - ¿qué reglas son necesarias para asegurar que solamente se realizan actividades de investigación de alta calidad?

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Wikiversity beta es una plataforma global que tiene como objetivo coordinar los proyectos de Wikiversity en varias idiomas. Para beneficiar de la entrada de sus numerosos miembros (no sólo anglófonos), beta tiene que emplear un sistema multilingüe eficiente para la discusión multilingüe.

==Sistema existente==

El multilingüismo es a menudo un concepto unidireccional: primero hay una página de la fuente en lengua inglesa, y a continuación se traduce para hacerla comprensible a los lectores que no son anglófonos. La desventaja principal de este sistema es que quienes no sepan escribir en inglés no pueden participar en la discusión, todo lo que pueden hacer es leer pasivos lo que se traduce a su lengua.

Como los asuntos discutidos en beta conciernen a las Wikiversidades en todos los idiomas, es necesario que los participantes de todos los proyectos puedan dar sus opiniones.

==Sistema propuesto==

''Cualquier comentario sobre esta propuesta es bienvenido en la página de discusión.''

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==Pautas para hacer que este sistema funcione==

* Cuanto más corto, mejor. La concisión es la llave a las discusiones multilingües eficientes. Los párrafos largos no serán traducidos probablemente, ni serán reflejados en otras páginas de la lengua. Eso significa que las ideas/las críticas/las preguntas posibles no conseguirán ninguna atención.
* Anunciar: cuando una discusión comienza, debe ser anunciado en [[Wikiversity: Announcements/Es]].
* Enumeración del párrafo: Los párrafos se deben numerar para ser identificados fácilmente: el primer resumen es #1, los nuevos resúmenes irán por orden numérico, del 1 al infinito. Esto significa que los participantes tienen que comprobar las otras páginas antes de agregar un párrafo en su página para cerciorarse de que su página está actualizada y evitar conflictos de numéricos.

==Ventajas de este sistema==

* Todos pueden participar en la discusión.
* Requiere que los participantes sean breves y se centren en los asuntos fundamentales.
* El consenso es probable entre todos los participantes sea cual fuere su lengua.

==Desventajas==

* Este sistema confía en el número de traductores y de su eficacia.

==Traducción==

Si tienes conocimientos en más de una lengua, únete a los traductores en [[Wikiversity:Translation]].

==Ver también==

* [[Wikiversity:Language select/Es]]

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      <text xml:space="preserve">Brief summary of the original wikiversity proposal, which did not meet with complete approval.

==Short summary of the old proposal==
*A center of learning '''using Wikimedia projects content''' as course material.
*Initial scope of Wikiversity: something realistic that can be accomplished with the current set of tools available with MediaWiki software.
*Mission: to test the limits of the wiki model both for developing electronic learning resources as well as for teaching and for conducting research and publishing results within a policy framework developed by the community.
*Vision: a collaborative learning community structured to promote learning by engaging participants in scholarly activities within a wiki environment.
*Two goals were identified:
**'''E-teaching materials'''. The development and cataloging of tests, teaching materials that go beyond the scope of Wikibooks such as slides and videos, complete courses, and more. All this information must be presented from a neutral point of view and represent the current state of scientific research. Wikibooks will be used as a partner project where appropriate.
**'''E-learning'''. A framework within which members of the community can actually take courses online.

===Evaluation of the old proposal===
A [[m:Wikiversity/Vote/en|vote]] was held on the Wikiversity project proposal. The proposal got the required 2/3 majority (shortly).

In November the [http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Meetings/November_13%2C_2005 Board] discussed the Wikiversity project and requested modifications to the proposal:

:&quot;Wikiversity proposal (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiversity) not approved, but we will approve it if some changes are made and if the community seems joyful about it, which may or may not require another vote. The board recommend rewriting the proposal to exclude credentials, exclude online-courses and clarify the concept of elearning platform. to be rewritten to exclude credentials and to clarify concept of e-learning.&quot;

==See also==
[[Wikiversity:Wikiversity project proposal|Final approved project proposal]]
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{{Wikiversity}}

Wikiversity is different from a real university in many ways, but it also has similarities. It also has overlaps with other Wikimedia projects, but these overlaps should result in synergistic benefits, not competition. This page is for organizing an overall scope document &amp;mdash; analogous to a &quot;What is Wikiversity?&quot;.

= Universities and institutions of learning=
A university is traditionally a place where interested persons gather for instruction, for research, and for earning degrees.

== Instruction ==
Instruction incorporates a duality of teaching and learning. Each of these aspects should be handled individually. 

=== Teaching ===
The Wikiversity should become a premier source for accurate teaching materials &amp;mdash; bibliographies, lesson plans, syllabi, effective animations, well written papers, ideas for in class and at home exercises, discussion topics, course work, etc. &amp;mdash; as well as offer a clearing house for new and emerging teaching methodologies and technologies of learning. Teachers making use of Wikiversity materials are encouraged to comment on and adapt those materials in a continual effort to refine and improve Wikiversity's resources.

=== Learning ===
People can always learn, but should the Wikiversity offer complete courses? 

[[w:de:Benutzer_Diskussion:WiseWoman|WiseWoman]] does not see why not. The Wikiversity will not be able to organize tutoring for individual courses, but there is no reason why individual lessons, or indeed entire courses, should not be made available under appropriate license to the community. See [[Wikiversity:Online Course]] for more.

While complete courses are possible for a wiki, there are limitations in the wiki user environment that may make it difficult to attract and maintain online participants in conventional courses. Conventional courses normally involve the concentration of instructors, learners and learning materials in time and space. The virtual learning environment of Wikiversity will be more suited to flexible wiki-based learning projects that will allow Wikiversity participants to come and go at any time in the usual wiki way. A fundamental unit of organization within Wikiversity will be the [[Wikiversity:Learning#Learning groups|learning group]].

== Research ==
There are currently two major distinctions made in the research area with respect to wikis. There is research concerned with wikis as the objects of investigation, that is, [[Research|research about wikis]] as it already exists at the Wikimedia Metawiki. Wikiversity will definitely be open to efforts that support this kind of research about wikis. Wikiversity participants will routinely engage in all types of &quot;secondary research&quot; that is aimed at critical evaluation of published sources of information. The other kind of research is wiki-based original research. It is not yet clear that this will be part of the Wikiversity. If the Wikiversity community decides to support original research, it will have to develop a specific set of policies to support such research activities.

=== About wikis ===
There is already a large body of research that has been conducted with various institutions about wikis. The [[meta:Wiki Research Bibliography|Wiki Research Bibliography]] is a bibliography of scientific publications and sources about wikis in general and Wikipedia in particular. Additions should be made there only for the time being.

=== Using wikis ===
Although the use of wikis as a collaboration basis for research in various subjects is undisputably useful, the question arises as to whether Wikiversity can actually host work-in-progress. [[w:de:Benutzer_Diskussion:WiseWoman|WiseWoman]] is of the opinion that the Wikiversity should be reserved for completed research &amp;mdash; however, papers that have not been published elsewhere should be welcomed (only if they're under a free license of course). However, providing for learning communities to develop, modify and use the materials on Wikiversity, itself constitutes a way in which research could be done as an activity on Wikiversity.

== Earning Degrees ==
In order to earn a degree, a certain amount of credit must be earned with an accredited organization, that is, some body of experts must determine that the program and the coursework make sense in the context of the degree to be conferred.

'''Wikiversity will not be a degree granting institution''', although the materials available at Wikiversity can definitely be used by students and instructors at accredited institutions as a basis for the partial fulfillment of examination requirements for an accredited course.

===What Wikiversity is not===
* We do not run traditional courses
* We do not grant degrees
* We are not out to get accreditation

== Digital Libraries ==
The Wikiversity can provide a commented guide to the varied digital libraries around. But we do not provide our own library.

=Wikimedia projects=
Wikiversity will seek to complement other Wikimedia sites by adding to their content, and acting as a resource for their communities. However, it will not seek to duplicate their material.

==Wikibooks==
Wikibooks is a repository of textbooks, which are specifically educational resources, but which are ultimately developed to be ''books''. Wikiversity will host educational content on similar subjects, but its aim is to host and create multimedia learning resources which can be used flexibly, in different contexts, whether as &quot;off the shelf&quot; resources for teachers in class, or as prompts for collaborative work themselves &amp;mdash; whether within Wikiversity, or even other Wikimedia projects (e.g. about academic versus layman writing in Wikipedia articles). This will include things like lesson plans, lecture notes, presentation slides, memory flash cards, listening exercises, educational video (within bandwidth reason).

==Wikisource==
Wikisource is for hosting free-content material, much of which is out of copyright. This kind of material should stay at Wikisource, but could be used, along with other Wikimedia content, to complement material at Wikiversity. (There could also, of course, be some kind of course/material on Wikiversity about copyright or related licensing issues, that could benefit the raising of awareness of this key component of Wikimedia projects.)

==Commons==
As noted, Wikiversity is for multimedia learning resources (ie video, sound, graphics, text), which could also be hosted on Commons, but, if they are specifically designed for an educational use, it would probably be better to host them at Wikiversity.

==Others==
Other Wikimedia projects, Wikipedia, Wiktionary, Wikiquote, and Wikispecies, have very clear goals which do not overlap with Wikiversity's at all. However, Wikiversity will attempt to benefit any/all of these projects &amp;mdash; for example, by developing resources, methods and communities to improve Wikipedia articles/graphics etc., or information on animal/plant taxonomies, or, of course, translation efforts between projects.

==Wikicommunity or Communitas==
Please read [[Meta:Talk:Communitas#A Communitas example instance: The Perl Wiki in Wikia]]

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&lt;center&gt;[[Portal:理學院|理學院]]&lt;/center&gt;
&lt;center&gt; - [[Portal:工學院|工學院]] - [[Portal:生物|生命科學院]] - [[Portal:物理|物理科學院]] - [[Portal:數學|數理科學研究院]] - &lt;/center&gt;

懇請參加者開發[[:en:Portal:Learning Materials|學習資源]]與[[:en:Portal:Learning Projects|學習計劃]], 並協助組織本院.

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院系
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*[[School:計算機|計算機學系]]
*[[School:經濟|經濟系]]

部
*[[Topic:數學物理|數學物理組]]

==主名空間內容的組織:==
&lt;small&gt;(參見 [[Wikiversity:架構]])&lt;/small&gt;
*'''概念:''' 院 -&gt; 系-&gt; 部/研究主題  -&gt; 課 
*'''名空間: '''Portal:- &gt; School:- &gt; Topic:- &gt; 主空間(無標題)
例: [[Portal:數學]] --&gt;[[School:數學]] ---&gt; [[Topic:代數幾何]] ---&gt; [[概形]]

==參與者==

==院訊 ==

==參見==
*[[:en:w:Portal:Mathematics]]

[[Category:ZH]]

[[en:Portal:Mathematics]]</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Wikiversity 架構</title>
    <id>2121</id>
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        <username>Hillgentleman</username>
        <id>30</id>
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      <comment>[[Wikiversity 架構]] moved to [[Wikiversity:架構]]: namespace</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">#REDIRECT [[Wikiversity:架構]]</text>
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  </page>
  <page>
    <title>School:計算機</title>
    <id>2122</id>
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      <id>4601</id>
      <timestamp>2006-12-01T14:16:58Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Aleksejevski</username>
        <id>136</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>/* 主名空間內容的組織: */</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;small&gt; &lt;[[首頁]]|
&lt;center&gt;&lt;big&gt;歡迎來到計算機學系!&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/center&gt;

&lt;center&gt;
[[Portal:工學院|工學院]]  -  [[Portal:數學|數理科學研究院]]&lt;br&gt;
-[[School:數學|數學系]]
-[[School:統計|統計系]]
-[[School:計算機|計算機學系]]
-[[School:經濟|經濟系]]
&lt;/center&gt;

懇請參加者開發[[:en:Portal:Learning Materials|學習資源]]與[[:en:Portal:Learning Projects|學習計劃]], 並協助組織本系.

欢迎光临'''计算机系'''！本系专门研究电子计算机技术、网络技术和程序，是工学院和数学院的一部分。

==部門==
*[[Topic:网络工程|网络工程学]]
**[[Topic:网络建设与维护|网络建设与维护]]

*[[Topic:软件|软件]]
**[[Topic:人工智能]]
**[[Topic:密碼學]]
**[[Topic:算法]]
**[[Topic:量子計算]]
**[[Topic:邏輯]]
**[[Topic:PHP]]
**[[Topic:MySQL]]
**[[Topic:MediaWiki]]
*[[Topic:硬件|硬件]]

==主名空間內容的組織:==
*'''概念:''' 院 -&gt; 系-&gt; 部 -&gt; 課 
*'''名空間: '''Portal:- &gt; School:- &gt; Topic:- &gt; 主空間(無標題)
例: [[Portal:數學]] --&gt;[[School:計算機]] ---&gt; [[Topic:量子計算]] --&gt; [[量子位元]]

*(見[[Wikiversity:架構]])

==參與者==

==系訊 ==

==參見==
*[[:en:w:Portal:Computer Science]]

[[Category:ZH]]

[[en:School:Computer Science]]</text>
    </revision>
  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Topic:电子计算机与网络</title>
    <id>2124</id>
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      <id>4633</id>
      <timestamp>2006-12-03T19:21:36Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Hillgentleman</username>
        <id>30</id>
      </contributor>
      <minor />
      <comment>[[Portal:电子计算机与网络]] moved to [[Topic:电子计算机与网络]]: ''namespace''</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;small&gt; &lt;[[首页]] &lt;/small&gt;

欢迎光临'''电子计算机与网络研究所'''！本所专门研究电子计算机技术与网络技术。

本所主要侧重于信息技术而不是数学理论。

==相關院系==
*[[School:网络工程|网络工程系]]
*[[School:网络建设与维护|网络建设与维护系]]
*[[School:软件|软件系]]
*[[School:硬件|硬件系]]

==主名空間內容的組織:==
*'''概念:''' 院 -&gt; 系-&gt; 部 -&gt; 課 
*'''名空間: '''Portal:- &gt; School:- &gt; Topic:- &gt; 主空間(無標題)

[[Category:Computer Science]]
[[Category:ZH]]</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Portal:工學院</title>
    <id>2125</id>
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      <contributor>
        <username>Hillgentleman</username>
        <id>30</id>
      </contributor>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;small&gt;&lt;[[首页]]&lt;/small&gt;

欢迎来到'''工学院'''!

==院系==
*[[school:工程学|工程系]]
*[[school:計算機|计算机系]]（与数学系交叉）
*[[School:土木工程|土木工程系]]
*[[school:化学工程|化学工程系]]（化工系）
*[[School:生物医学工程|生物医学工程系]]
*...

[[Category:ZH]]</text>
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    <title>User talk:Aleksejevski</title>
    <id>2126</id>
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      <contributor>
        <username>Hillgentleman</username>
        <id>30</id>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">Aleksejevski, 你好！其實計算機系不必單＂屬於＂ 數學院。  列在數學院 是為方便交流。
我覺得 '''Topic:电子计算机与网络''' (比較[[:en:Topic:Networking]]) 比 Portal: 合適. 閣下意見如何？---[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]-[[User talk:hillgentleman|User talk]] 08:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

*  然。 （注意：英文維基學府有一怪現象：有 School:Computer Science 也有 Topic:Computer Science。這是 Wikibooks 時代的遺物。（也有人建議合併兩者）我們不必學。）--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]-[[User talk:hillgentleman|User talk]] 10:33, 29 November 2006 (UTC)</text>
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    <id>2127</id>
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      <contributor>
        <username>Hillgentleman</username>
        <id>30</id>
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      <minor />
      <comment>/* 各部門 (departments and divisions) */</comment>
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__NOTOC__
&lt;center&gt;&lt;big&gt;歡迎來到數學系!&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/center&gt;

&lt;center&gt;
[[Portal:數學|數理科學研究院]]&lt;br&gt;
-[[School:數學|數學系]]
-[[School:統計|統計系]]
-[[School:計算機|計算機學系]]
-[[School:經濟|經濟系]]
&lt;/center&gt;

懇請參加者開發[[:en:Portal:Learning Materials|學習資源]]與[[:en:Portal:Learning Projects|學習計劃]], 並協助組織本系.

==各主題部門與研究組 (departments/divisions)==
部
*[[Topic:代數|代數]]
*[[Topic:幾何|幾何]]
*[[Topic:數學分析|分析]]
*[[Topic:集合論|集合論]]
*[[Topic:拓撲學|拓撲學]]

研究組
*[[Topic:數學物理|數學物理研究組]]
*[[Topic:範疇論|範疇論]]
*[[Topic:代數幾何|代數幾何]]
*[[Topic:微分幾何|微分幾何]]

==主名空間內容的組織:==
&lt;small&gt;(參見 [[Wikiversity:架構]])&lt;/small&gt;
*'''概念:''' 院 -&gt; 系-&gt; 部 -&gt; 課 
*'''名空間: '''Portal:- &gt; School:- &gt; Topic:- &gt; 主空間(無標題)
例: [[Portal:數學]] --&gt;[[School:數學]] ---&gt; [[Topic:代數幾何]] ---&gt; [[概形]]

==參與者==

==系訊 ==

==參見==
*[[w:Wikipedia:WikiProject_Mathematics]]

[[Category:ZH]]

[[en:School:Mathematics]]</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Wikiversity:討論會</title>
    <id>2128</id>
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      <id>5068</id>
      <timestamp>2007-01-11T17:18:44Z</timestamp>
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        <username>Hardys</username>
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      <comment>/* 試驗中的學習計劃 */</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;small&gt;&lt;Beta [[首頁]]&lt;/small&gt;

建校之初，規模未具，宜重內容, 不必拘於形式。。現闢一小型討論會作校園，文、理、數、工、醫、地、史、聞、維基、法......無所不談。(唯正式內容請另著一文，置之於主名空間。)
&lt;!-------------------討論----------------------------------&gt;

==wikiversity 開學計劃==
由於我找不到 Wise Woman  所說那些最初開設 wikiversity 時的討論，不知道'''原本的理念'''是甚麼，但至少理解到 wikiversity 需要有別於傳統學術機制，而根據這幾日我對 wikiversity 之粗略認識，wikiversity 大概分兩個主要部份，第一是&quot;學習&quot;，第二是&quot;研究&quot;，但實際上，研究本身也是一種學習。- [[User:Hardys|Hardys]] 03:37, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
*開設 wikiversity 時的討論:  本來在 [[meta:wikiversity]]各子頁，我曾將某些頁搬來beta（以便翻譯），如[[meta:Talk:Wikiversity/Modified_project_proposal]]--&gt;[[Wikiversity talk:Approved Wikiversity project proposal/En]]---[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|書]] 04:16, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
*原本的理念: 可參攷[[wikiversity:approved Wikiversity project proposal]], [[wikiversity:scope]] .... 
*各維基計劃上已有豐富資源，但維基百科上很多人只顧不停寫, 很多文章流於表面，且不很重要的條目佔大多數（可參見最近更改頁）(當然，其因是百科之本質)，只有少數停下來深化、利用這些資源。在這些方面維基學府可以幫手。--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|書]] 04:21, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
*我希望組織數理研討會。--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|書]] 04:30, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
*Freakonomics 有趣。--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|書]] 17:21, 4 January 2007 (UTC)


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&lt;div class=&quot;NavHead&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt; 以下之學習計劃有些會實行，有些則純粹構想，目的在於探索 wikiversity 之各種可能。&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div  class=&quot;NavContent&quot;&gt;

==試驗中的學習計劃==
*[[Topic:版權研究]]
;法學系:
知識產權(版權)之源流，版權對社會之影響，現今又怎樣演繹網絡時代之版權？自由版權觀念分析

;法律系:
各種自由版權之實際應用
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*[[Lesson:麻將]]
----
;國學系:
'''[[Lesson:滿城盡帶黃金甲]]'''之出處及解詩(參考:[[wikipedia:zh:黃巢|黃巢]])
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==建議中的學習計劃==
*中國象棋
棋藝研探、經典棋局
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*語言系
跨語言系統實務研究
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*傳理系
;網上媒體研究:
傳統傳理系都是一些傳統媒體如報紙、電視之類，今年時代雜誌選出&quot;你&quot;作為年度人物，代表網上傳播媒體已成為一種新類型之媒體，但對於這個媒體似乎沒有一個整體的研究，大多是游擊式的獨立分析文章，wikiversity 傳理系可以從整體作系統研究

;言論自由狀況:
傳統範圍也有其題目發展，如香港之言論自由狀況

;網台教學:
網上電台及Podcast教學
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*政治學系
;香港政治研究:
為迎接香港08立法會選舉而對目前香港選舉制度分析研究

;另開展香港政制研究
;中國政治研究:
中國之政治概況，政府架構研究
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*宗教學系
;基督教思想源流 (宗教比較學角度)
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*神話學系
;古代雅里安神話介紹及其演變
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*美術設計系
;美術設計軟件教學
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*經濟系
讀過一本書叫《魔鬼經濟學([[wikipedia:Freakonomics|Freakonomics]])》裡面有一些觀念很有趣，可以拿出來研究
----
*'''其他構思'''
另外還有一些似乎很難實現，但很合乎學習需要實踐的構想:

* wikiversity 電影學院 
不單單是學電影理論, 還有電影制作，而且最後還要真真正正拍一部電影出來，比較可能實現的是拍一套動畫影片。

; wikiversity 音樂學院 
也是理論和實際兼備，希望最後會有創作音樂成果，以提供 Podsafe Music


*'''好為人師者'''
有云“人之患在於好為人師”，為避免有亂講當秘笈之情況，維基百科有審核資料政策，如要求資料來源，中立觀點等，wikiversity 受惠於此政策上，理應放心使用維基百科作為學習研究材料，唯實際上維基百科並非所有條目都有提供出處，為求認真，wikiversity 應採取傳統大學之學術原則，若任何'''非原創觀點或資料，應當提供出處'''，以便核實，此舉也同時可幫助維基百科內一些沒有出處的條目提供出處研究，實為互惠互利之舉

當然亦要平衡放膽參與之理念，以鼓勵學術之原則下進行
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==也見==

*[[Wikiversity:建校問題|建校問題討論]]
*計劃中：[[Wikiversity:各維基院系|各維基院系]]
*[[:en:wikiversity:naming conventions]]


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      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Wikiversity:Learning}}
{{Wikiversity}}
{{WikiversityActivities}}

This page is for exploring how learning takes place on [[Wikiversity]]. The model we are talking about is based on &quot;learning by doing&quot;, or &quot;experiential learning&quot;. We believe this to be the most appropriate model for a wiki-based environment, which is all about participation.

==Introduction==
Materials will be hosted on Wikiversity as stand-alone content&amp;mdash;to be used as part of a non-Wikiversity course, or for self-study&amp;mdash;but they could also act as an initiative for further work, on Wikiversity or other Wikimedia projects, or elsewhere in general. Furthermore, the ''use'' of these materials within the community will inevitably also constitute a type of collaborative learning. However, the material that Wikiversity hosts may be used in any way, depending on the people who use them and the context in which they are used.

==Experiential learning==
* Everyone participates
:Might be nice to have a page access/edit access ratio calculated and presented to give us an idea of what the reading participation is compared to the edit/crumb dropping participation.
* Everyone &quot;brings themselves&quot; to the learning environment&amp;mdash;ie your previous experiences
* Everyone assists with improving the [[w:instructional scaffolding|instructional scaffolding]] while using it.
* Reflective cycle (keeping a journal)
:other forms? Playing a simulation, deriving an equation, painting a landscape, making money on a stock exchange, presenting a business plan, filing organizational registration for a non profit, ...
* See [[w:John Dewey]][http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Democracy_and_Education], [[w:Lev Vygotsky]][http://www2.cddc.vt.edu/marxists/archive/vygotsky/index.htm], [[w:Jean Piaget]][http://marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/fr/piaget2.htm], [[w:Kurt Lewin]][http://www.infed.org/thinkers/et-lewin.htm] ...

===Learning by doing===
The process of ''actually learning on Wikiversity'' is primarily through experience&amp;mdash;&quot;learning by doing&quot; or &quot;experiential learning&quot;. Editing a wiki is an active, participatory process, involving action (editing, being bold) and reflection (discussion). Learning activities ''on Wikiversity'' need to focus on their '''wiki'''-based potential and the fact that they are based on collaborative, communal processes&amp;mdash;see [[Learning community]], or some ideas for different learning groups below.

===Learning together===
Fundamentally, though, learning is seen as a part of taking part in Wikiversity&amp;mdash;in this, the following quote from Lave and Wenger (1991) may be useful:

:&quot;''There is a significant contrast between a theory of learning in which practice (in a narrow, replicative sense) is subsumed within processes of learning and one in which learning is taken to be an integral aspect of practice (in a historical, generative sense).&quot;'' (pp:34-35)

In other words, it is through taking part in developing and critiquing materials that people will form learning groups/communities and both further their own and the group's learning and generate new knowledge in the process. Wikiversity is about facilitating learning, and, as well as hosting excellent materials which may be used off the shelf by casual users, it is also designed to allow for this type of collaborative learning to take place.

==Critical thinking==
* The ability to critically assess information, beliefs etc&amp;mdash;including your own beliefs
: Media 113[http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Media113]
* A key skill in all areas of life [http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Thinking_And_Moral_Problems]
* Common to educational programs on citizenship, media literacy ...

==Learning groups==
&lt;small&gt;(This content was moved here from the [[Wikiversity:Wikiversity project proposal|Wikiversity project proposal]])&lt;/small&gt;
* A learning group on a subject might write lectures collectively using readings they have done (chosen collectively).  These would be a way for the group to get down the major points that they have learned.  It might look like lecture notes that students take in regular university classes.  These notes act as a guide for users to then take the knowledge they have gained and apply it to improving Wikipedia articles and writing Wikibooks.  On the other hand, the group might chose to meet in chat rooms. These learning groups might not use wiki format lectures.
* They might, collectively, create assignments to get a better understanding of the material and to contribute to the Wikimedia community. One example would be to have the group set out to improve a Wikipedia entry based on information learned from the readings and discussions.  Another, most likely as a final project once the group has completed it's learning objectives, is to write a Wikibook based on what is learned from the group. This wikibook could then be used in future groups who decide to study the same subject, and they might perhaps again improve upon the wikibook based on what they have learned (possibly using sources the first group did not).
** For example, users could form '''reading groups'''. Imagine an assignment where users read book X for author Y. User A learns information that is useful for Wikipedia, and adds a citation to book X in some Wikipedia articles. User B quotes a sentence of book X in Wiktionary to demonstrate how to use a word. User C mentions book X or author Y in a Wikibook. User D learned much from reading book X, but never contributed to Wikipedia, Wiktionary, or Wikibooks using that knowledge. All four users benefited by using talk pages at Wikiversity to discuss confusing or interesting parts of book X.
** Another example would be the query expedition.  It might be organized as a pool of best guess with individuals or teams taking pro, con, strawman, idiot user, or other roles in the attack/defense/hybridization of the final answer to 1.) deliver to the query originator and 2.) evaluate per compare contrast procedures against initial WAGs for credit, glory and learning feedback.  This product would obviously be posted somewhere safe from deletionists until other teams had a chance to evaluate how best to integrate the newly found and created knowledge artifacts, data and links into other Wikiversity resources such as the brainstorming stash or inevitable to do and wishlists.

See: [[Portal:Learning Projects|Wikiversity Learning Projects]]

=== Citing sources ===
Some Wikimedia projects, especially [[Wikipedia:en:Main Page|Wikipedia]], need to [[Wikipedia:en:Project:Cite sources|cite sources]]. Learning groups at Wikiversity can study such sources and teach users to cite them.

For example, the Wikipedia article [[Wikipedia:en:Effects of the automobile on societies]] cites no outside sources. But if it did, the article would not cite ''every'' outside source about said effects of automobiles. Wikiversity could make a list of references to outside sources (including ISBN numbers, URLs, and links to [[Wikisource:en:Main Page|Wikisource]] and [[Wikiquote:en:Main Page|Wikiquote]]) for studying effects of automobiles on societies. Wikiversity users could study some of these sources and provide comments. They can also use the sources to edit the Wikipedia article, thus adding those sources as citations.

See: [[Service community]] and [[Citing Sources]]

==Assessment==
One of the questions we will have to ask ourselves in providing for educational activities is: &quot;how are we going to manage assessment?&quot;

Consider the following quote:

:''&quot;in order for students to become effective lifelong learners, they need also to be prepared to undertake assessment of the learning tasks they face throughout their lives&quot;'' (Boud, 2000, p. 152)

We are developing a model of peer learning on Wikiversity - one in which people educate themselves and each other (through experience). A sustainable model of peer-learning involves giving people control over their learning - so that they, themselves, will be equipped with the skills they need in life, and also be able to apply those skills to help others in their learning. See also Keppell et al. (2006).

==Other models of learning==
* &quot;Acquisition and repetition of facts&quot; (?)
* Exposure to subtle models.  Repeated exposure, daily (via many different individual models, people, personalities).
* Sui generis.  Creation from first principles.  Rediscovering the work of others through personal insight.
* Original Work&amp;mdash;Learning by doing creatively.
* Formal debate, analysis, or discussion with others. wikireason.net [http://wikireason.net/wiki/Forum_Entrance]
* [[w:Educational_essentialism|Essentialism]]
* [[w:Educational_progressivism|Progressiveism]]
* [[w:Educational_perennialism|Perennialism]]
* [[w:Educational_existentialism|Existentialism]]
* [http://edweb.sdsu.edu/LShaw/f95syll/philos/phbehav.html Behaviourism]

==Other Learning Communities or Possibly Useful Research Results Online==

* http://edu.tikiwiki.org
:[http://tikiwiki.org TikiWiki] is a CMS/Groupware/''whatever'' and is used in several educative contexts. This website is dedicated to help that use and gather useful components to make it easier. --[[User:83.35.198.10|83.35.198.10]] 19:21, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

* http://h2oproject.law.harvard.edu/rotisserie.html
: This software tool attempts to facilitate organized online classes by broadcasting messages and responses in rounds to all participants.  Might be a way to tame wild wikis for courses which need or want more traditional accountable participation from registered members only. Downside, must initially complete &quot;Who are the leaders here games and discussions&quot; so management or facilitation authority is established and correctly setup in the software project for the group.  Introducing leader point of failure for the group.  [[user:lazyquasar]]

* http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue8_2/keats/
:This article analyzes open content production and potential advantages to the university system of Africa.  It identifies as essential transparent comprehensive information access and communications between all team members as essential.  Cabals or secretive bilateral gossip or exchange of information is identified as destructive to the overall productivity and survival of the production team.  [[User:70.110.54.16|70.110.54.16]] 06:01, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

* http://wikireason.net/wiki/Forum_Entrance  This online learning community seeks formal debate, analysis, or discussion with others.   Could be incredibly useful site for specific groups of Wikiversity participants for appropriate activities which could later be referenced or incorporated into Wikiversity materials or processes.  &quot;Wikiversity is not a debate club or chit chat student union .... wikireason exists for that! 8) [[User:70.110.35.3|70.110.35.3]] 03:08, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

* http://www.learningwiki.com/  Apparently a group of learning communities with an emphasis on elearning communities.

* http://econwiki.lse.ac.uk/wiki/Main_Page  An economics course placed online within its own Wikimedia Wiki.  
: It identifies areas students in the course are invited to participate in documenting.  It references Wikibooks as a resource: http://econwiki.lse.ac.uk/wiki/The_textbook
: Its license is a creative commons sharealike (link on front page http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/) that would seem to preclude direct cut and paste interaction between its material and Wikibooks or Wikiversity.  Obviously paraphrasing or cross checking facts remains legal.

* http://cs.marlboro.edu/wikiacademia is an open source course wiki that looks a lot like Wikipedia.  There's a poster on it at Wikimania2006. &amp;mdash;[[User:Jim Mahoney|Jim Mahoney]] 22:45, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

* http://communitiesofinquiry.com/ A breakdown of issues, pedagogies and methodologies relevant to creating, developing and researching online learning communities - based on Rourke et al. (2001)

* http://teachingwiki.org and http://writingwiki.org - (seemingly) interlinked wikis devoted to teaching writing and sharing teacher resources

==We are not sure...==

What all the possible learning modes, methods, preferences, factors, etc. are using wikis with other online and physical world resources are or may be.  It would be extremely helpful to our [[Wikiversity:Research Network]] and the [[Wikiversity:School of Education]] if you share your thoughts, observations, wild ass guess (WAG), opinions or hearsay regarding how wikis and other resources can be used to aid and inspire useful, civilly responsible learning either directly or indirectly.

:This is an interesting link [http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Fractal.html] with a table that discusses how overlapping groups influence each other and propagate information over networks.  Has some interesting implications for how Wikipedia, Wikiversity and other large global focal points might need to organize for effectiveness.  [[user:lazyquasar]]

==References==
*Boud, D. (2000) Sustainable Assessment: rethinking assessment for the learning society, ''Studies in Continuing Education'', Vol. 22, No. 2, pp:151 - 167
*Keppell, M., Au, E., Ma, A., Chan, C. (2006) Peer learning and learning-oriented  assessment in technology-enhanced  environments, ''Assessment &amp; Evaluation in Higher Education'' Vol. 31, No. 4, pp: 453–464
*Lave, J., Wenger, E. (1991) ''Situated learning: legitimate peripheral participation''. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press
*Rourke, L., Anderson, T., Garrison, D.R., Archer, W. (2001) Assessing social presence in asynchronous text-based computer conferencing. Journal of Distance Education, Vol. 14, No. 2. Available online at: http://cade.icaap.org/vol14.2/rourke_et_al.html

==Further reading==
*Dewey, J. (1966) ''[[s:Democracy_and_Education|Democracy and education]]''.  New York: Free Press. Originally published in 1916
*Wenger, E. (1998) ''Communities of practice''. Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press

== See also ==
* [[Wikiversity:Learning goals|Learning goals]] - Wikiversity learners share their goals with the community.

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此頁探討維基學府上之學習過程。 The model we are talking about is based on &quot;實踐中學習&quot;, or &quot;實驗中學習&quot;. We believe this to be the most appropriate model for a wiki-based environment, which is all about 參與。

==引言==
Materials will be hosted on Wikiversity as stand-alone content&amp;mdash;to be used as part of a non-Wikiversity course, or for self-study&amp;mdash;but they could also act as an initiative for further work, on Wikiversity or other Wikimedia projects, or elsewhere in general. Furthermore, the ''use'' of these materials within the community will inevitably also constitute a type of collaborative learning. However, the material that Wikiversity hosts may be used in any way, depending on the people who use them and the context in which they are used.

==實驗中學習==
* Everyone participates
:Might be nice to have a page access/edit access ratio calculated and presented to give us an idea of what the reading participation is compared to the edit/crumb dropping participation.
* Everyone &quot;brings themselves&quot; to the learning environment&amp;mdash;ie your previous experiences
* Everyone assists with improving the [[w:instructional scaffolding|instructional scaffolding]] while using it.
* Reflective cycle (keeping a journal)
:other forms? Playing a simulation, deriving an equation, painting a landscape, making money on a stock exchange, presenting a business plan, filing organizational registration for a non profit, ...
* See [[w:John Dewey]][http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Democracy_and_Education], [[w:Lev Vygotsky]][http://www2.cddc.vt.edu/marxists/archive/vygotsky/index.htm], [[w:Jean Piaget]][http://marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/fr/piaget2.htm], [[w:Kurt Lewin]][http://www.infed.org/thinkers/et-lewin.htm] ...

===實踐中學習===
The process of ''actually learning on Wikiversity'' is primarily through experience&amp;mdash;&quot;learning by doing&quot; or &quot;experiential learning&quot;. Editing a wiki is an active, participatory process, involving action (editing, being bold) and reflection (discussion). Learning activities ''on Wikiversity'' need to focus on their '''wiki'''-based potential and the fact that they are based on collaborative, communal processes&amp;mdash;see [[Learning community]], or some ideas for different learning groups below.

===Learning together===
Fundamentally, though, learning is seen as a part of taking part in Wikiversity&amp;mdash;in this, the following quote from Lave and Wenger (1991) may be useful:

:&quot;''There is a significant contrast between a theory of learning in which practice (in a narrow, replicative sense) is subsumed within processes of learning and one in which learning is taken to be an integral aspect of practice (in a historical, generative sense).&quot;'' (pp:34-35)

In other words, it is through taking part in developing and critiquing materials that people will form learning groups/communities and both further their own and the group's learning and generate new knowledge in the process. Wikiversity is about facilitating learning, and, as well as hosting excellent materials which may be used off the shelf by casual users, it is also designed to allow for this type of collaborative learning to take place.

==批判性思考==
* The ability to critically assess information, beliefs etc&amp;mdash;including your own beliefs
: Media 113[http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Media113]
* A key skill in all areas of life [http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Thinking_And_Moral_Problems]
* Common to educational programs on citizenship, media literacy ...

==Learning groups==
&lt;small&gt;(This content was moved here from the [[Wikiversity:Wikiversity project proposal|Wikiversity project proposal]])&lt;/small&gt;
* A learning group on a subject might write lectures collectively using readings they have done (chosen collectively).  These would be a way for the group to get down the major points that they have learned.  It might look like lecture notes that students take in regular university classes.  These notes act as a guide for users to then take the knowledge they have gained and apply it to improving Wikipedia articles and writing Wikibooks.  On the other hand, the group might chose to meet in chat rooms. These learning groups might not use wiki format lectures.
* They might, collectively, create assignments to get a better understanding of the material and to contribute to the Wikimedia community. One example would be to have the group set out to improve a Wikipedia entry based on information learned from the readings and discussions.  Another, most likely as a final project once the group has completed it's learning objectives, is to write a Wikibook based on what is learned from the group. This wikibook could then be used in future groups who decide to study the same subject, and they might perhaps again improve upon the wikibook based on what they have learned (possibly using sources the first group did not).
** For example, users could form '''reading groups'''. Imagine an assignment where users read book X for author Y. User A learns information that is useful for Wikipedia, and adds a citation to book X in some Wikipedia articles. User B quotes a sentence of book X in Wiktionary to demonstrate how to use a word. User C mentions book X or author Y in a Wikibook. User D learned much from reading book X, but never contributed to Wikipedia, Wiktionary, or Wikibooks using that knowledge. All four users benefited by using talk pages at Wikiversity to discuss confusing or interesting parts of book X.
** Another example would be the query expedition.  It might be organized as a pool of best guess with individuals or teams taking pro, con, strawman, idiot user, or other roles in the attack/defense/hybridization of the final answer to 1.) deliver to the query originator and 2.) evaluate per compare contrast procedures against initial WAGs for credit, glory and learning feedback.  This product would obviously be posted somewhere safe from deletionists until other teams had a chance to evaluate how best to integrate the newly found and created knowledge artifacts, data and links into other Wikiversity resources such as the brainstorming stash or inevitable to do and wishlists.

See: [[Portal:Learning Projects|Wikiversity Learning Projects]]

=== Citing sources ===
Some Wikimedia projects, especially [[Wikipedia:en:Main Page|Wikipedia]], need to [[Wikipedia:en:Project:Cite sources|cite sources]]. Learning groups at Wikiversity can study such sources and teach users to cite them.

For example, the Wikipedia article [[Wikipedia:en:Effects of the automobile on societies]] cites no outside sources. But if it did, the article would not cite ''every'' outside source about said effects of automobiles. Wikiversity could make a list of references to outside sources (including ISBN numbers, URLs, and links to [[Wikisource:en:Main Page|Wikisource]] and [[Wikiquote:en:Main Page|Wikiquote]]) for studying effects of automobiles on societies. Wikiversity users could study some of these sources and provide comments. They can also use the sources to edit the Wikipedia article, thus adding those sources as citations.

See: [[Service community]] and [[Citing Sources]]

==Assessment==
One of the questions we will have to ask ourselves in providing for educational activities is: &quot;how are we going to manage assessment?&quot;

Consider the following quote:

:''&quot;in order for students to become effective lifelong learners, they need also to be prepared to undertake assessment of the learning tasks they face throughout their lives&quot;'' (Boud, 2000, p. 152)

We are developing a model of peer learning on Wikiversity - one in which people educate themselves and each other (through experience). A sustainable model of peer-learning involves giving people control over their learning - so that they, themselves, will be equipped with the skills they need in life, and also be able to apply those skills to help others in their learning. See also Keppell et al. (2006).

==Other models of learning==
* &quot;Acquisition and repetition of facts&quot; (?)
* Exposure to subtle models.  Repeated exposure, daily (via many different individual models, people, personalities).
* Sui generis.  Creation from first principles.  Rediscovering the work of others through personal insight.
* Original Work&amp;mdash;Learning by doing creatively.
* Formal debate, analysis, or discussion with others. wikireason.net [http://wikireason.net/wiki/Forum_Entrance]
* [[w:Educational_essentialism|Essentialism]]
* [[w:Educational_progressivism|Progressiveism]]
* [[w:Educational_perennialism|Perennialism]]
* [[w:Educational_existentialism|Existentialism]]
* [http://edweb.sdsu.edu/LShaw/f95syll/philos/phbehav.html Behaviourism]

==Other Learning Communities or Possibly Useful Research Results Online==

* http://edu.tikiwiki.org
:[http://tikiwiki.org TikiWiki] is a CMS/Groupware/''whatever'' and is used in several educative contexts. This website is dedicated to help that use and gather useful components to make it easier. --[[User:83.35.198.10|83.35.198.10]] 19:21, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

* http://h2oproject.law.harvard.edu/rotisserie.html
: This software tool attempts to facilitate organized online classes by broadcasting messages and responses in rounds to all participants.  Might be a way to tame wild wikis for courses which need or want more traditional accountable participation from registered members only. Downside, must initially complete &quot;Who are the leaders here games and discussions&quot; so management or facilitation authority is established and correctly setup in the software project for the group.  Introducing leader point of failure for the group.  [[user:lazyquasar]]

* http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue8_2/keats/
:This article analyzes open content production and potential advantages to the university system of Africa.  It identifies as essential transparent comprehensive information access and communications between all team members as essential.  Cabals or secretive bilateral gossip or exchange of information is identified as destructive to the overall productivity and survival of the production team.  [[User:70.110.54.16|70.110.54.16]] 06:01, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

* http://wikireason.net/wiki/Forum_Entrance  This online learning community seeks formal debate, analysis, or discussion with others.   Could be incredibly useful site for specific groups of Wikiversity participants for appropriate activities which could later be referenced or incorporated into Wikiversity materials or processes.  &quot;Wikiversity is not a debate club or chit chat student union .... wikireason exists for that! 8) [[User:70.110.35.3|70.110.35.3]] 03:08, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

* http://www.learningwiki.com/  Apparently a group of learning communities with an emphasis on elearning communities.

* http://econwiki.lse.ac.uk/wiki/Main_Page  An economics course placed online within its own Wikimedia Wiki.  
: It identifies areas students in the course are invited to participate in documenting.  It references Wikibooks as a resource: http://econwiki.lse.ac.uk/wiki/The_textbook
: Its license is a creative commons sharealike (link on front page http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/) that would seem to preclude direct cut and paste interaction between its material and Wikibooks or Wikiversity.  Obviously paraphrasing or cross checking facts remains legal.

* http://cs.marlboro.edu/wikiacademia is an open source course wiki that looks a lot like Wikipedia.  There's a poster on it at Wikimania2006. &amp;mdash;[[User:Jim Mahoney|Jim Mahoney]] 22:45, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

* http://communitiesofinquiry.com/ A breakdown of issues, pedagogies and methodologies relevant to creating, developing and researching online learning communities - based on Rourke et al. (2001)

* http://teachingwiki.org and http://writingwiki.org - (seemingly) interlinked wikis devoted to teaching writing and sharing teacher resources

==We are not sure...==

What all the possible learning modes, methods, preferences, factors, etc. are using wikis with other online and physical world resources are or may be.  It would be extremely helpful to our [[Wikiversity:Research Network]] and the [[Wikiversity:School of Education]] if you share your thoughts, observations, wild ass guess (WAG), opinions or hearsay regarding how wikis and other resources can be used to aid and inspire useful, civilly responsible learning either directly or indirectly.

:This is an interesting link [http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Fractal.html] with a table that discusses how overlapping groups influence each other and propagate information over networks.  Has some interesting implications for how Wikipedia, Wikiversity and other large global focal points might need to organize for effectiveness.  [[user:lazyquasar]]

==References==
*Boud, D. (2000) Sustainable Assessment: rethinking assessment for the learning society, ''Studies in Continuing Education'', Vol. 22, No. 2, pp:151 - 167
*Keppell, M., Au, E., Ma, A., Chan, C. (2006) Peer learning and learning-oriented  assessment in technology-enhanced  environments, ''Assessment &amp; Evaluation in Higher Education'' Vol. 31, No. 4, pp: 453–464
*Lave, J., Wenger, E. (1991) ''Situated learning: legitimate peripheral participation''. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press
*Rourke, L., Anderson, T., Garrison, D.R., Archer, W. (2001) Assessing social presence in asynchronous text-based computer conferencing. Journal of Distance Education, Vol. 14, No. 2. Available online at: http://cade.icaap.org/vol14.2/rourke_et_al.html

==Further reading==
*Dewey, J. (1966) ''[[s:Democracy_and_Education|Democracy and education]]''.  New York: Free Press. Originally published in 1916
*Wenger, E. (1998) ''Communities of practice''. Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press

== See also ==
* [[Wikiversity:Learning goals|Learning goals]] - Wikiversity learners share their goals with the community.

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This page is for exploring how learning takes place on [[Wikiversity]]. The model we are talking about is based on &quot;learning by doing&quot;, or &quot;experiential learning&quot;. We believe this to be the most appropriate model for a wiki-based environment, which is all about participation.

==Introduction==
Materials will be hosted on Wikiversity as stand-alone content&amp;mdash;to be used as part of a non-Wikiversity course, or for self-study&amp;mdash;but they could also act as an initiative for further work, on Wikiversity or other Wikimedia projects, or elsewhere in general. Furthermore, the ''use'' of these materials within the community will inevitably also constitute a type of collaborative learning. However, the material that Wikiversity hosts may be used in any way, depending on the people who use them and the context in which they are used.

==Experiential learning==
* Everyone participates
:Might be nice to have a page access/edit access ratio calculated and presented to give us an idea of what the reading participation is compared to the edit/crumb dropping participation.
* Everyone &quot;brings themselves&quot; to the learning environment&amp;mdash;ie your previous experiences
* Everyone assists with improving the [[w:instructional scaffolding|instructional scaffolding]] while using it.
* Reflective cycle (keeping a journal)
:other forms? Playing a simulation, deriving an equation, painting a landscape, making money on a stock exchange, presenting a business plan, filing organizational registration for a non profit, ...
* See [[w:John Dewey]][http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Democracy_and_Education], [[w:Lev Vygotsky]][http://www2.cddc.vt.edu/marxists/archive/vygotsky/index.htm], [[w:Jean Piaget]][http://marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/fr/piaget2.htm], [[w:Kurt Lewin]][http://www.infed.org/thinkers/et-lewin.htm] ...

===Learning by doing===
The process of ''actually learning on Wikiversity'' is primarily through experience&amp;mdash;&quot;learning by doing&quot; or &quot;experiential learning&quot;. Editing a wiki is an active, participatory process, involving action (editing, being bold) and reflection (discussion). Learning activities ''on Wikiversity'' need to focus on their '''wiki'''-based potential and the fact that they are based on collaborative, communal processes&amp;mdash;see [[Learning community]], or some ideas for different learning groups below.

===Learning together===
Fundamentally, though, learning is seen as a part of taking part in Wikiversity&amp;mdash;in this, the following quote from Lave and Wenger (1991) may be useful:

:&quot;''There is a significant contrast between a theory of learning in which practice (in a narrow, replicative sense) is subsumed within processes of learning and one in which learning is taken to be an integral aspect of practice (in a historical, generative sense).&quot;'' (pp:34-35)

In other words, it is through taking part in developing and critiquing materials that people will form learning groups/communities and both further their own and the group's learning and generate new knowledge in the process. Wikiversity is about facilitating learning, and, as well as hosting excellent materials which may be used off the shelf by casual users, it is also designed to allow for this type of collaborative learning to take place.

==Critical thinking==
* The ability to critically assess information, beliefs etc&amp;mdash;including your own beliefs
: Media 113[http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Media113]
* A key skill in all areas of life [http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Thinking_And_Moral_Problems]
* Common to educational programs on citizenship, media literacy ...

==Learning groups==
&lt;small&gt;(This content was moved here from the [[Wikiversity:Wikiversity project proposal|Wikiversity project proposal]])&lt;/small&gt;
* A learning group on a subject might write lectures collectively using readings they have done (chosen collectively).  These would be a way for the group to get down the major points that they have learned.  It might look like lecture notes that students take in regular university classes.  These notes act as a guide for users to then take the knowledge they have gained and apply it to improving Wikipedia articles and writing Wikibooks.  On the other hand, the group might chose to meet in chat rooms. These learning groups might not use wiki format lectures.
* They might, collectively, create assignments to get a better understanding of the material and to contribute to the Wikimedia community. One example would be to have the group set out to improve a Wikipedia entry based on information learned from the readings and discussions.  Another, most likely as a final project once the group has completed it's learning objectives, is to write a Wikibook based on what is learned from the group. This wikibook could then be used in future groups who decide to study the same subject, and they might perhaps again improve upon the wikibook based on what they have learned (possibly using sources the first group did not).
** For example, users could form '''reading groups'''. Imagine an assignment where users read book X for author Y. User A learns information that is useful for Wikipedia, and adds a citation to book X in some Wikipedia articles. User B quotes a sentence of book X in Wiktionary to demonstrate how to use a word. User C mentions book X or author Y in a Wikibook. User D learned much from reading book X, but never contributed to Wikipedia, Wiktionary, or Wikibooks using that knowledge. All four users benefited by using talk pages at Wikiversity to discuss confusing or interesting parts of book X.
** Another example would be the query expedition.  It might be organized as a pool of best guess with individuals or teams taking pro, con, strawman, idiot user, or other roles in the attack/defense/hybridization of the final answer to 1.) deliver to the query originator and 2.) evaluate per compare contrast procedures against initial WAGs for credit, glory and learning feedback.  This product would obviously be posted somewhere safe from deletionists until other teams had a chance to evaluate how best to integrate the newly found and created knowledge artifacts, data and links into other Wikiversity resources such as the brainstorming stash or inevitable to do and wishlists.

See: [[Portal:Learning Projects|Wikiversity Learning Projects]]

=== Citing sources ===
Some Wikimedia projects, especially [[Wikipedia:en:Main Page|Wikipedia]], need to [[Wikipedia:en:Project:Cite sources|cite sources]]. Learning groups at Wikiversity can study such sources and teach users to cite them.

For example, the Wikipedia article [[Wikipedia:en:Effects of the automobile on societies]] cites no outside sources. But if it did, the article would not cite ''every'' outside source about said effects of automobiles. Wikiversity could make a list of references to outside sources (including ISBN numbers, URLs, and links to [[Wikisource:en:Main Page|Wikisource]] and [[Wikiquote:en:Main Page|Wikiquote]]) for studying effects of automobiles on societies. Wikiversity users could study some of these sources and provide comments. They can also use the sources to edit the Wikipedia article, thus adding those sources as citations.

See: [[Service community]] and [[Citing Sources]]

==Assessment==
One of the questions we will have to ask ourselves in providing for educational activities is: &quot;how are we going to manage assessment?&quot;

Consider the following quote:

:''&quot;in order for students to become effective lifelong learners, they need also to be prepared to undertake assessment of the learning tasks they face throughout their lives&quot;'' (Boud, 2000, p. 152)

We are developing a model of peer learning on Wikiversity - one in which people educate themselves and each other (through experience). A sustainable model of peer-learning involves giving people control over their learning - so that they, themselves, will be equipped with the skills they need in life, and also be able to apply those skills to help others in their learning. See also Keppell et al. (2006).

==Other models of learning==
* &quot;Acquisition and repetition of facts&quot; (?)
* Exposure to subtle models.  Repeated exposure, daily (via many different individual models, people, personalities).
* Sui generis.  Creation from first principles.  Rediscovering the work of others through personal insight.
* Original Work&amp;mdash;Learning by doing creatively.
* Formal debate, analysis, or discussion with others. wikireason.net [http://wikireason.net/wiki/Forum_Entrance]
* [[w:Educational_essentialism|Essentialism]]
* [[w:Educational_progressivism|Progressiveism]]
* [[w:Educational_perennialism|Perennialism]]
* [[w:Educational_existentialism|Existentialism]]
* [http://edweb.sdsu.edu/LShaw/f95syll/philos/phbehav.html Behaviourism]

==Other Learning Communities or Possibly Useful Research Results Online==

* http://edu.tikiwiki.org
:[http://tikiwiki.org TikiWiki] is a CMS/Groupware/''whatever'' and is used in several educative contexts. This website is dedicated to help that use and gather useful components to make it easier. --[[User:83.35.198.10|83.35.198.10]] 19:21, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

* http://h2oproject.law.harvard.edu/rotisserie.html
: This software tool attempts to facilitate organized online classes by broadcasting messages and responses in rounds to all participants.  Might be a way to tame wild wikis for courses which need or want more traditional accountable participation from registered members only. Downside, must initially complete &quot;Who are the leaders here games and discussions&quot; so management or facilitation authority is established and correctly setup in the software project for the group.  Introducing leader point of failure for the group.  [[user:lazyquasar]]

* http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue8_2/keats/
:This article analyzes open content production and potential advantages to the university system of Africa.  It identifies as essential transparent comprehensive information access and communications between all team members as essential.  Cabals or secretive bilateral gossip or exchange of information is identified as destructive to the overall productivity and survival of the production team.  [[User:70.110.54.16|70.110.54.16]] 06:01, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

* http://wikireason.net/wiki/Forum_Entrance  This online learning community seeks formal debate, analysis, or discussion with others.   Could be incredibly useful site for specific groups of Wikiversity participants for appropriate activities which could later be referenced or incorporated into Wikiversity materials or processes.  &quot;Wikiversity is not a debate club or chit chat student union .... wikireason exists for that! 8) [[User:70.110.35.3|70.110.35.3]] 03:08, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

* http://www.learningwiki.com/  Apparently a group of learning communities with an emphasis on elearning communities.

* http://econwiki.lse.ac.uk/wiki/Main_Page  An economics course placed online within its own Wikimedia Wiki.  
: It identifies areas students in the course are invited to participate in documenting.  It references Wikibooks as a resource: http://econwiki.lse.ac.uk/wiki/The_textbook
: Its license is a creative commons sharealike (link on front page http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/) that would seem to preclude direct cut and paste interaction between its material and Wikibooks or Wikiversity.  Obviously paraphrasing or cross checking facts remains legal.

* http://cs.marlboro.edu/wikiacademia is an open source course wiki that looks a lot like Wikipedia.  There's a poster on it at Wikimania2006. &amp;mdash;[[User:Jim Mahoney|Jim Mahoney]] 22:45, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

* http://communitiesofinquiry.com/ A breakdown of issues, pedagogies and methodologies relevant to creating, developing and researching online learning communities - based on Rourke et al. (2001)

* http://teachingwiki.org and http://writingwiki.org - (seemingly) interlinked wikis devoted to teaching writing and sharing teacher resources

==We are not sure...==

What all the possible learning modes, methods, preferences, factors, etc. are using wikis with other online and physical world resources are or may be.  It would be extremely helpful to our [[Wikiversity:Research Network]] and the [[Wikiversity:School of Education]] if you share your thoughts, observations, wild ass guess (WAG), opinions or hearsay regarding how wikis and other resources can be used to aid and inspire useful, civilly responsible learning either directly or indirectly.

:This is an interesting link [http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Fractal.html] with a table that discusses how overlapping groups influence each other and propagate information over networks.  Has some interesting implications for how Wikipedia, Wikiversity and other large global focal points might need to organize for effectiveness.  [[user:lazyquasar]]

==References==
*Boud, D. (2000) Sustainable Assessment: rethinking assessment for the learning society, ''Studies in Continuing Education'', Vol. 22, No. 2, pp:151 - 167
*Keppell, M., Au, E., Ma, A., Chan, C. (2006) Peer learning and learning-oriented  assessment in technology-enhanced  environments, ''Assessment &amp; Evaluation in Higher Education'' Vol. 31, No. 4, pp: 453–464
*Lave, J., Wenger, E. (1991) ''Situated learning: legitimate peripheral participation''. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press
*Rourke, L., Anderson, T., Garrison, D.R., Archer, W. (2001) Assessing social presence in asynchronous text-based computer conferencing. Journal of Distance Education, Vol. 14, No. 2. Available online at: http://cade.icaap.org/vol14.2/rourke_et_al.html

==Further reading==
*Dewey, J. (1966) ''[[s:Democracy_and_Education|Democracy and education]]''.  New York: Free Press. Originally published in 1916
*Wenger, E. (1998) ''Communities of practice''. Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press

== See also ==
* [[Wikiversity:Learning goals|Learning goals]] - Wikiversity learners share their goals with the community.

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This page is for exploring how learning takes place on [[Wikiversity]]. The model we are talking about is based on &quot;learning by doing&quot;, or &quot;experiential learning&quot;. We believe this to be the most appropriate model for a wiki-based environment, which is all about participation.

==Introduction==
Materials will be hosted on Wikiversity as stand-alone content&amp;mdash;to be used as part of a non-Wikiversity course, or for self-study&amp;mdash;but they could also act as an initiative for further work, on Wikiversity or other Wikimedia projects, or elsewhere in general. Furthermore, the ''use'' of these materials within the community will inevitably also constitute a type of collaborative learning. However, the material that Wikiversity hosts may be used in any way, depending on the people who use them and the context in which they are used.

==Experiential learning==
* Everyone participates
:Might be nice to have a page access/edit access ratio calculated and presented to give us an idea of what the reading participation is compared to the edit/crumb dropping participation.
* Everyone &quot;brings themselves&quot; to the learning environment&amp;mdash;ie your previous experiences
* Everyone assists with improving the [[w:instructional scaffolding|instructional scaffolding]] while using it.
* Reflective cycle (keeping a journal)
:other forms? Playing a simulation, deriving an equation, painting a landscape, making money on a stock exchange, presenting a business plan, filing organizational registration for a non profit, ...
* See [[w:John Dewey]][http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Democracy_and_Education], [[w:Lev Vygotsky]][http://www2.cddc.vt.edu/marxists/archive/vygotsky/index.htm], [[w:Jean Piaget]][http://marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/fr/piaget2.htm], [[w:Kurt Lewin]][http://www.infed.org/thinkers/et-lewin.htm] ...

===Learning by doing===
The process of ''actually learning on Wikiversity'' is primarily through experience&amp;mdash;&quot;learning by doing&quot; or &quot;experiential learning&quot;. Editing a wiki is an active, participatory process, involving action (editing, being bold) and reflection (discussion). Learning activities ''on Wikiversity'' need to focus on their '''wiki'''-based potential and the fact that they are based on collaborative, communal processes&amp;mdash;see [[Learning community]], or some ideas for different learning groups below.

===Learning together===
Fundamentally, though, learning is seen as a part of taking part in Wikiversity&amp;mdash;in this, the following quote from Lave and Wenger (1991) may be useful:

:&quot;''There is a significant contrast between a theory of learning in which practice (in a narrow, replicative sense) is subsumed within processes of learning and one in which learning is taken to be an integral aspect of practice (in a historical, generative sense).&quot;'' (pp:34-35)

In other words, it is through taking part in developing and critiquing materials that people will form learning groups/communities and both further their own and the group's learning and generate new knowledge in the process. Wikiversity is about facilitating learning, and, as well as hosting excellent materials which may be used off the shelf by casual users, it is also designed to allow for this type of collaborative learning to take place.

==Critical thinking==
* The ability to critically assess information, beliefs etc&amp;mdash;including your own beliefs
: Media 113[http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Media113]
* A key skill in all areas of life [http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Thinking_And_Moral_Problems]
* Common to educational programs on citizenship, media literacy ...

==Learning groups==
&lt;small&gt;(This content was moved here from the [[Wikiversity:Wikiversity project proposal|Wikiversity project proposal]])&lt;/small&gt;
* A learning group on a subject might write lectures collectively using readings they have done (chosen collectively).  These would be a way for the group to get down the major points that they have learned.  It might look like lecture notes that students take in regular university classes.  These notes act as a guide for users to then take the knowledge they have gained and apply it to improving Wikipedia articles and writing Wikibooks.  On the other hand, the group might chose to meet in chat rooms. These learning groups might not use wiki format lectures.
* They might, collectively, create assignments to get a better understanding of the material and to contribute to the Wikimedia community. One example would be to have the group set out to improve a Wikipedia entry based on information learned from the readings and discussions.  Another, most likely as a final project once the group has completed it's learning objectives, is to write a Wikibook based on what is learned from the group. This wikibook could then be used in future groups who decide to study the same subject, and they might perhaps again improve upon the wikibook based on what they have learned (possibly using sources the first group did not).
** For example, users could form '''reading groups'''. Imagine an assignment where users read book X for author Y. User A learns information that is useful for Wikipedia, and adds a citation to book X in some Wikipedia articles. User B quotes a sentence of book X in Wiktionary to demonstrate how to use a word. User C mentions book X or author Y in a Wikibook. User D learned much from reading book X, but never contributed to Wikipedia, Wiktionary, or Wikibooks using that knowledge. All four users benefited by using talk pages at Wikiversity to discuss confusing or interesting parts of book X.
** Another example would be the query expedition.  It might be organized as a pool of best guess with individuals or teams taking pro, con, strawman, idiot user, or other roles in the attack/defense/hybridization of the final answer to 1.) deliver to the query originator and 2.) evaluate per compare contrast procedures against initial WAGs for credit, glory and learning feedback.  This product would obviously be posted somewhere safe from deletionists until other teams had a chance to evaluate how best to integrate the newly found and created knowledge artifacts, data and links into other Wikiversity resources such as the brainstorming stash or inevitable to do and wishlists.

See: [[Portal:Learning Projects|Wikiversity Learning Projects]]

=== Citing sources ===
Some Wikimedia projects, especially [[Wikipedia:en:Main Page|Wikipedia]], need to [[Wikipedia:en:Project:Cite sources|cite sources]]. Learning groups at Wikiversity can study such sources and teach users to cite them.

For example, the Wikipedia article [[Wikipedia:en:Effects of the automobile on societies]] cites no outside sources. But if it did, the article would not cite ''every'' outside source about said effects of automobiles. Wikiversity could make a list of references to outside sources (including ISBN numbers, URLs, and links to [[Wikisource:en:Main Page|Wikisource]] and [[Wikiquote:en:Main Page|Wikiquote]]) for studying effects of automobiles on societies. Wikiversity users could study some of these sources and provide comments. They can also use the sources to edit the Wikipedia article, thus adding those sources as citations.

See: [[Service community]] and [[Citing Sources]]

==Assessment==
One of the questions we will have to ask ourselves in providing for educational activities is: &quot;how are we going to manage assessment?&quot;

Consider the following quote:

:''&quot;in order for students to become effective lifelong learners, they need also to be prepared to undertake assessment of the learning tasks they face throughout their lives&quot;'' (Boud, 2000, p. 152)

We are developing a model of peer learning on Wikiversity - one in which people educate themselves and each other (through experience). A sustainable model of peer-learning involves giving people control over their learning - so that they, themselves, will be equipped with the skills they need in life, and also be able to apply those skills to help others in their learning. See also Keppell et al. (2006).

==Other models of learning==
* &quot;Acquisition and repetition of facts&quot; (?)
* Exposure to subtle models.  Repeated exposure, daily (via many different individual models, people, personalities).
* Sui generis.  Creation from first principles.  Rediscovering the work of others through personal insight.
* Original Work&amp;mdash;Learning by doing creatively.
* Formal debate, analysis, or discussion with others. wikireason.net [http://wikireason.net/wiki/Forum_Entrance]
* [[w:Educational_essentialism|Essentialism]]
* [[w:Educational_progressivism|Progressiveism]]
* [[w:Educational_perennialism|Perennialism]]
* [[w:Educational_existentialism|Existentialism]]
* [http://edweb.sdsu.edu/LShaw/f95syll/philos/phbehav.html Behaviourism]

==Other Learning Communities or Possibly Useful Research Results Online==

* http://edu.tikiwiki.org
:[http://tikiwiki.org TikiWiki] is a CMS/Groupware/''whatever'' and is used in several educative contexts. This website is dedicated to help that use and gather useful components to make it easier. --[[User:83.35.198.10|83.35.198.10]] 19:21, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

* http://h2oproject.law.harvard.edu/rotisserie.html
: This software tool attempts to facilitate organized online classes by broadcasting messages and responses in rounds to all participants.  Might be a way to tame wild wikis for courses which need or want more traditional accountable participation from registered members only. Downside, must initially complete &quot;Who are the leaders here games and discussions&quot; so management or facilitation authority is established and correctly setup in the software project for the group.  Introducing leader point of failure for the group.  [[user:lazyquasar]]

* http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue8_2/keats/
:This article analyzes open content production and potential advantages to the university system of Africa.  It identifies as essential transparent comprehensive information access and communications between all team members as essential.  Cabals or secretive bilateral gossip or exchange of information is identified as destructive to the overall productivity and survival of the production team.  [[User:70.110.54.16|70.110.54.16]] 06:01, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

* http://wikireason.net/wiki/Forum_Entrance  This online learning community seeks formal debate, analysis, or discussion with others.   Could be incredibly useful site for specific groups of Wikiversity participants for appropriate activities which could later be referenced or incorporated into Wikiversity materials or processes.  &quot;Wikiversity is not a debate club or chit chat student union .... wikireason exists for that! 8) [[User:70.110.35.3|70.110.35.3]] 03:08, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

* http://www.learningwiki.com/  Apparently a group of learning communities with an emphasis on elearning communities.

* http://econwiki.lse.ac.uk/wiki/Main_Page  An economics course placed online within its own Wikimedia Wiki.  
: It identifies areas students in the course are invited to participate in documenting.  It references Wikibooks as a resource: http://econwiki.lse.ac.uk/wiki/The_textbook
: Its license is a creative commons sharealike (link on front page http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/) that would seem to preclude direct cut and paste interaction between its material and Wikibooks or Wikiversity.  Obviously paraphrasing or cross checking facts remains legal.

* http://cs.marlboro.edu/wikiacademia is an open source course wiki that looks a lot like Wikipedia.  There's a poster on it at Wikimania2006. &amp;mdash;[[User:Jim Mahoney|Jim Mahoney]] 22:45, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

* http://communitiesofinquiry.com/ A breakdown of issues, pedagogies and methodologies relevant to creating, developing and researching online learning communities - based on Rourke et al. (2001)

* http://teachingwiki.org and http://writingwiki.org - (seemingly) interlinked wikis devoted to teaching writing and sharing teacher resources

==We are not sure...==

What all the possible learning modes, methods, preferences, factors, etc. are using wikis with other online and physical world resources are or may be.  It would be extremely helpful to our [[Wikiversity:Research Network]] and the [[Wikiversity:School of Education]] if you share your thoughts, observations, wild ass guess (WAG), opinions or hearsay regarding how wikis and other resources can be used to aid and inspire useful, civilly responsible learning either directly or indirectly.

:This is an interesting link [http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Fractal.html] with a table that discusses how overlapping groups influence each other and propagate information over networks.  Has some interesting implications for how Wikipedia, Wikiversity and other large global focal points might need to organize for effectiveness.  [[user:lazyquasar]]

==References==
*Boud, D. (2000) Sustainable Assessment: rethinking assessment for the learning society, ''Studies in Continuing Education'', Vol. 22, No. 2, pp:151 - 167
*Keppell, M., Au, E., Ma, A., Chan, C. (2006) Peer learning and learning-oriented  assessment in technology-enhanced  environments, ''Assessment &amp; Evaluation in Higher Education'' Vol. 31, No. 4, pp: 453–464
*Lave, J., Wenger, E. (1991) ''Situated learning: legitimate peripheral participation''. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press
*Rourke, L., Anderson, T., Garrison, D.R., Archer, W. (2001) Assessing social presence in asynchronous text-based computer conferencing. Journal of Distance Education, Vol. 14, No. 2. Available online at: http://cade.icaap.org/vol14.2/rourke_et_al.html

==Further reading==
*Dewey, J. (1966) ''[[s:Democracy_and_Education|Democracy and education]]''.  New York: Free Press. Originally published in 1916
*Wenger, E. (1998) ''Communities of practice''. Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press

== See also ==
* [[Wikiversity:Learning goals|Learning goals]] - Wikiversity learners share their goals with the community.

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Cette page a pour but de définir la méthode d'apprentissage au sein de la [[Wikiversité]]. Il y a un modèle basé sur l'&quot;apprentissage par l'expérience&quot; (''learning by doing'') qui semble le plus approprié dans un environnement Wiki où tout repose sur la participation.

==Introduction==
Materials will be hosted on Wikiversity as stand-alone content&amp;mdash;to be used as part of a non-Wikiversity course, or for self-study&amp;mdash;but they could also act as an initiative for further work, on Wikiversity or other Wikimedia projects, or elsewhere in general. Furthermore, the ''use'' of these materials within the community will inevitably also constitute a type of collaborative learning. However, the material that Wikiversity hosts may be used in any way, depending on the people who use them and the context in which they are used.

==Experiential learning==
* Everyone participates
:Might be nice to have a page access/edit access ratio calculated and presented to give us an idea of what the reading participation is compared to the edit/crumb dropping participation.
* Everyone &quot;brings themselves&quot; to the learning environment&amp;mdash;ie your previous experiences
* Everyone assists with improving the [[w:instructional scaffolding|instructional scaffolding]] while using it.
* Reflective cycle (keeping a journal)
:other forms? Playing a simulation, deriving an equation, painting a landscape, making money on a stock exchange, presenting a business plan, filing organizational registration for a non profit, ...
* See [[w:John Dewey]][http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Democracy_and_Education], [[w:Lev Vygotsky]][http://www2.cddc.vt.edu/marxists/archive/vygotsky/index.htm], [[w:Jean Piaget]][http://marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/fr/piaget2.htm], [[w:Kurt Lewin]][http://www.infed.org/thinkers/et-lewin.htm] ...

===Learning by doing===
The process of ''actually learning on Wikiversity'' is primarily through experience&amp;mdash;&quot;learning by doing&quot; or &quot;experiential learning&quot;. Editing a wiki is an active, participatory process, involving action (editing, being bold) and reflection (discussion). Learning activities ''on Wikiversity'' need to focus on their '''wiki'''-based potential and the fact that they are based on collaborative, communal processes&amp;mdash;see [[Learning community]], or some ideas for different learning groups below.

===Learning together===
Fundamentally, though, learning is seen as a part of taking part in Wikiversity&amp;mdash;in this, the following quote from Lave and Wenger (1991) may be useful:

:&quot;''There is a significant contrast between a theory of learning in which practice (in a narrow, replicative sense) is subsumed within processes of learning and one in which learning is taken to be an integral aspect of practice (in a historical, generative sense).&quot;'' (pp:34-35)

In other words, it is through taking part in developing and critiquing materials that people will form learning groups/communities and both further their own and the group's learning and generate new knowledge in the process. Wikiversity is about facilitating learning, and, as well as hosting excellent materials which may be used off the shelf by casual users, it is also designed to allow for this type of collaborative learning to take place.

==Critical thinking==
* The ability to critically assess information, beliefs etc&amp;mdash;including your own beliefs
: Media 113[http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Media113]
* A key skill in all areas of life [http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Thinking_And_Moral_Problems]
* Common to educational programs on citizenship, media literacy ...

==Learning groups==
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* A learning group on a subject might write lectures collectively using readings they have done (chosen collectively).  These would be a way for the group to get down the major points that they have learned.  It might look like lecture notes that students take in regular university classes.  These notes act as a guide for users to then take the knowledge they have gained and apply it to improving Wikipedia articles and writing Wikibooks.  On the other hand, the group might chose to meet in chat rooms. These learning groups might not use wiki format lectures.
* They might, collectively, create assignments to get a better understanding of the material and to contribute to the Wikimedia community. One example would be to have the group set out to improve a Wikipedia entry based on information learned from the readings and discussions.  Another, most likely as a final project once the group has completed it's learning objectives, is to write a Wikibook based on what is learned from the group. This wikibook could then be used in future groups who decide to study the same subject, and they might perhaps again improve upon the wikibook based on what they have learned (possibly using sources the first group did not).
** For example, users could form '''reading groups'''. Imagine an assignment where users read book X for author Y. User A learns information that is useful for Wikipedia, and adds a citation to book X in some Wikipedia articles. User B quotes a sentence of book X in Wiktionary to demonstrate how to use a word. User C mentions book X or author Y in a Wikibook. User D learned much from reading book X, but never contributed to Wikipedia, Wiktionary, or Wikibooks using that knowledge. All four users benefited by using talk pages at Wikiversity to discuss confusing or interesting parts of book X.
** Another example would be the query expedition.  It might be organized as a pool of best guess with individuals or teams taking pro, con, strawman, idiot user, or other roles in the attack/defense/hybridization of the final answer to 1.) deliver to the query originator and 2.) evaluate per compare contrast procedures against initial WAGs for credit, glory and learning feedback.  This product would obviously be posted somewhere safe from deletionists until other teams had a chance to evaluate how best to integrate the newly found and created knowledge artifacts, data and links into other Wikiversity resources such as the brainstorming stash or inevitable to do and wishlists.

See: [[Portal:Learning Projects|Wikiversity Learning Projects]]

=== Citing sources ===
Some Wikimedia projects, especially [[Wikipedia:en:Main Page|Wikipedia]], need to [[Wikipedia:en:Project:Cite sources|cite sources]]. Learning groups at Wikiversity can study such sources and teach users to cite them.

For example, the Wikipedia article [[Wikipedia:en:Effects of the automobile on societies]] cites no outside sources. But if it did, the article would not cite ''every'' outside source about said effects of automobiles. Wikiversity could make a list of references to outside sources (including ISBN numbers, URLs, and links to [[Wikisource:en:Main Page|Wikisource]] and [[Wikiquote:en:Main Page|Wikiquote]]) for studying effects of automobiles on societies. Wikiversity users could study some of these sources and provide comments. They can also use the sources to edit the Wikipedia article, thus adding those sources as citations.

See: [[Service community]] and [[Citing Sources]]

==Assessment==
One of the questions we will have to ask ourselves in providing for educational activities is: &quot;how are we going to manage assessment?&quot;

Consider the following quote:

:''&quot;in order for students to become effective lifelong learners, they need also to be prepared to undertake assessment of the learning tasks they face throughout their lives&quot;'' (Boud, 2000, p. 152)

We are developing a model of peer learning on Wikiversity - one in which people educate themselves and each other (through experience). A sustainable model of peer-learning involves giving people control over their learning - so that they, themselves, will be equipped with the skills they need in life, and also be able to apply those skills to help others in their learning. See also Keppell et al. (2006).

==Other models of learning==
* &quot;Acquisition and repetition of facts&quot; (?)
* Exposure to subtle models.  Repeated exposure, daily (via many different individual models, people, personalities).
* Sui generis.  Creation from first principles.  Rediscovering the work of others through personal insight.
* Original Work&amp;mdash;Learning by doing creatively.
* Formal debate, analysis, or discussion with others. wikireason.net [http://wikireason.net/wiki/Forum_Entrance]
* [[w:Educational_essentialism|Essentialism]]
* [[w:Educational_progressivism|Progressiveism]]
* [[w:Educational_perennialism|Perennialism]]
* [[w:Educational_existentialism|Existentialism]]
* [http://edweb.sdsu.edu/LShaw/f95syll/philos/phbehav.html Behaviourism]

==Other Learning Communities or Possibly Useful Research Results Online==

* http://edu.tikiwiki.org
:[http://tikiwiki.org TikiWiki] is a CMS/Groupware/''whatever'' and is used in several educative contexts. This website is dedicated to help that use and gather useful components to make it easier. --[[User:83.35.198.10|83.35.198.10]] 19:21, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

* http://h2oproject.law.harvard.edu/rotisserie.html
: This software tool attempts to facilitate organized online classes by broadcasting messages and responses in rounds to all participants.  Might be a way to tame wild wikis for courses which need or want more traditional accountable participation from registered members only. Downside, must initially complete &quot;Who are the leaders here games and discussions&quot; so management or facilitation authority is established and correctly setup in the software project for the group.  Introducing leader point of failure for the group.  [[user:lazyquasar]]

* http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue8_2/keats/
:This article analyzes open content production and potential advantages to the university system of Africa.  It identifies as essential transparent comprehensive information access and communications between all team members as essential.  Cabals or secretive bilateral gossip or exchange of information is identified as destructive to the overall productivity and survival of the production team.  [[User:70.110.54.16|70.110.54.16]] 06:01, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

* http://wikireason.net/wiki/Forum_Entrance  This online learning community seeks formal debate, analysis, or discussion with others.   Could be incredibly useful site for specific groups of Wikiversity participants for appropriate activities which could later be referenced or incorporated into Wikiversity materials or processes.  &quot;Wikiversity is not a debate club or chit chat student union .... wikireason exists for that! 8) [[User:70.110.35.3|70.110.35.3]] 03:08, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

* http://www.learningwiki.com/  Apparently a group of learning communities with an emphasis on elearning communities.

* http://econwiki.lse.ac.uk/wiki/Main_Page  An economics course placed online within its own Wikimedia Wiki.  
: It identifies areas students in the course are invited to participate in documenting.  It references Wikibooks as a resource: http://econwiki.lse.ac.uk/wiki/The_textbook
: Its license is a creative commons sharealike (link on front page http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/) that would seem to preclude direct cut and paste interaction between its material and Wikibooks or Wikiversity.  Obviously paraphrasing or cross checking facts remains legal.

* http://cs.marlboro.edu/wikiacademia is an open source course wiki that looks a lot like Wikipedia.  There's a poster on it at Wikimania2006. &amp;mdash;[[User:Jim Mahoney|Jim Mahoney]] 22:45, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

* http://communitiesofinquiry.com/ A breakdown of issues, pedagogies and methodologies relevant to creating, developing and researching online learning communities - based on Rourke et al. (2001)

* http://teachingwiki.org and http://writingwiki.org - (seemingly) interlinked wikis devoted to teaching writing and sharing teacher resources

==We are not sure...==

What all the possible learning modes, methods, preferences, factors, etc. are using wikis with other online and physical world resources are or may be.  It would be extremely helpful to our [[Wikiversity:Research Network]] and the [[Wikiversity:School of Education]] if you share your thoughts, observations, wild ass guess (WAG), opinions or hearsay regarding how wikis and other resources can be used to aid and inspire useful, civilly responsible learning either directly or indirectly.

:This is an interesting link [http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Fractal.html] with a table that discusses how overlapping groups influence each other and propagate information over networks.  Has some interesting implications for how Wikipedia, Wikiversity and other large global focal points might need to organize for effectiveness.  [[user:lazyquasar]]

==References==
*Boud, D. (2000) Sustainable Assessment: rethinking assessment for the learning society, ''Studies in Continuing Education'', Vol. 22, No. 2, pp:151 - 167
*Keppell, M., Au, E., Ma, A., Chan, C. (2006) Peer learning and learning-oriented  assessment in technology-enhanced  environments, ''Assessment &amp; Evaluation in Higher Education'' Vol. 31, No. 4, pp: 453–464
*Lave, J., Wenger, E. (1991) ''Situated learning: legitimate peripheral participation''. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press
*Rourke, L., Anderson, T., Garrison, D.R., Archer, W. (2001) Assessing social presence in asynchronous text-based computer conferencing. Journal of Distance Education, Vol. 14, No. 2. Available online at: http://cade.icaap.org/vol14.2/rourke_et_al.html

==Further reading==
*Dewey, J. (1966) ''[[s:Democracy_and_Education|Democracy and education]]''.  New York: Free Press. Originally published in 1916
*Wenger, E. (1998) ''Communities of practice''. Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press

== See also ==
* [[Wikiversity:Learning goals|Learning goals]] - Wikiversity learners share their goals with the community.

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A Wikiversidade é diferente de uma universidade real de várias formas, mas também tem semelhanças. Tem também sobreposições com outros projectos Wikimedia, mas estas devem resultar em benefícios sinérgicos, não competição. Esta página serve para organizar um documento sobre o âmbito total do projecto &amp;mdash; análogo a um &quot;O que é a Wikiversidade?&quot;.

= Universidades e instituições de aprendizagem =
Uma universidade é tradicionalmente um local onde pessoas interessadas juntam-se para instrução, pesquisa e para obter uma graduação académica.

== Instrução ==
Instruction incorporates a duality of teaching and learning. Each of these aspects should be handled individually. 

=== Ensino ===
The Wikiversity should become a premier source for accurate teaching materials &amp;mdash; bibliographies, lesson plans, syllabi, effective animations, well written papers, ideas for in class and at home exercises, discussion topics, course work, etc. &amp;mdash; as well as offer a clearing house for new and emerging teaching methodologies and technologies of learning. Teachers making use of Wikiversity materials are encouraged to comment on and adapt those materials in a continual effort to refine and improve Wikiversity's resources.

=== Aprendizagem ===
People can always learn, but should the Wikiversity offer complete courses? 

[[User:WiseWoman|WiseWoman]] does not see why not. The Wikiversity will not be able to organize tutoring for individual courses, but there is no reason why individual lessons, or indeed entire courses, should not be made available under appropriate license to the community. See [[Wikiversity:Online Course]] for more.

While complete courses are possible for a wiki, there are limitations in the wiki user environment that may make it difficulty to attract and maintain online participants in conventional courses. Conventional courses normally involve the concentration of instructors, learners and learning materials in time and space. The virtual learning environment of Wikiversity will be more suited to flexible wiki-based learning projects that will allow Wikiversity participants to come and go at any time in the usual wiki way. A fundamental unit of organization within Wikiversity will be the [[Wikiversity:Learning#Learning groups|learning group]].

== Research ==
There are currently two major distinctions made in the research area with respect to wikis. There is research concerned with wikis as the objects of investigation, that is, [[Research|research about wikis]] as it already exists at the Wikimedia Metawiki. Wikiversity will definitely be open to efforts that support this kind of research about wikis. Wikiversity participants will routinely engage in all types of &quot;secondary research&quot; that is aimed at critical evaluation of published sources of information. The other kind of research is wiki-based original research. It is not yet clear that this will be part of the Wikiversity. If the Wikiversity community decides to support original research, it will have to develop a specific set of policies to support such research activities.

=== About wikis ===
There is already a large body of research that has been conducted with various institutions about wikis. The [[meta:Wiki Research Bibliography|Wiki Research Bibliography]] is a bibliography of scientific publications and sources about wikis in general and Wikipedia in particular. Additions should be made there only for the time being.

=== Using wikis ===
Although the use of wikis as a collaboration basis for research in various subjects is undisputably useful, the question arises as to whether Wikiversity can actually host work-in-progress. [[User:WiseWoman|WiseWoman]] is of the opinion that the Wikiversity should be reserved for completed research &amp;mdash; however, papers that have not been published elsewhere should be welcomed (only if they're under a free license of course). However, providing for learning communities to develop, modify and use the materials on Wikiversity, itself constitutes a way in which research could be done as an activity on Wikiversity.

== Earning Degrees ==
In order to earn a degree, a certain amount of credit must be earned with an accredited organization, that is, some body of experts must determine that the program and the coursework make sense in the context of the degree to be conferred.

'''Wikiversity will not be a degree granting institution''', although the materials available at Wikiversity can definitely be used by students and instructors at accredited institutions as a basis for the partial fulfillment of examination requirements for an accredited course.

===What Wikiversity is not===
* We do not run traditional courses
* We do not grant degrees
* We are not out to get accreditation

== Digital Libraries ==
The Wikiversity can provide a commented guide to the varied digital libraries around. But we do not provide our own library.

=Wikimedia projects=
Wikiversity will seek to complement other Wikimedia sites by adding to their content, and acting as a resource for their communities. However, it will not seek to duplicate their material.

==Wikibooks==
Wikibooks is a repository of textbooks, which are specifically educational resources, but which are ultimately developed to be ''books''. Wikiversity will host educational content on similar subjects, but its aim is to host and create multimedia learning resources which can be used flexibly, in different contexts, whether as &quot;off the shelf&quot; resources for teachers in class, or as prompts for collaborative work themselves &amp;mdash; whether within Wikiversity, or even other Wikimedia projects (eg. about academic versus layman writing in Wikipedia articles). This will include things like lesson plans, lecture notes, presentation slides, memory flash cards, listening exercises, educational video (within bandwidth reason).

==Wikisource==
Wikisource is for hosting free-content material, much of which is out of copyright. This kind of material should stay at Wikisource, but could be used, along with other Wikimedia content, to complement material at Wikiversity. (There could also, of course, be some kind of course/material on Wikiversity about copyright or related licensing issues, that could benefit the raising of awareness of this key component of Wikimedia projects.)

==Commons==
As noted, Wikiversity is for multimedia learning resources (ie video, sound, graphics, text), which could also be hosted on Commons, but, if they are specifically designed for an educational use, it would probably be better to host them at Wikiversity.

==Others==
Other Wikimedia projects, Wikipedia, Wiktionary, Wikiquote, and Wikispecies, have very clear goals which do not overlap with Wikiversity's at all. However, Wikiversity will attempt to benefit any/all of these projects &amp;mdash; for example, by developing resources, methods and communities to improve Wikipedia articles/graphics etc., or information on animal/plant taxonomies, or, of course, translation efforts between projects.

==Wikicommunity or Communitas==
Please read [[Meta:Talk:Communitas#A Communitas example instance: The Perl Wiki in Wikia]]

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Wikiversity is different from a real university in many ways, but it also has similarities. It also has overlaps with other Wikimedia projects, but these overlaps should result in synergistic benefits, not competition. This page is for organizing an overall scope document &amp;mdash; analogous to a &quot;What is Wikiversity?&quot;.

= Universities and institutions of learning=
A university is traditionally a place where interested persons gather for instruction, for research, and for earning degrees.

== Instruction ==
Instruction incorporates a duality of teaching and learning. Each of these aspects should be handled individually. 

=== Teaching ===
The Wikiversity should become a premier source for accurate teaching materials &amp;mdash; bibliographies, lesson plans, syllabi, effective animations, well written papers, ideas for in class and at home exercises, discussion topics, course work, etc. &amp;mdash; as well as offer a clearing house for new and emerging teaching methodologies and technologies of learning. Teachers making use of Wikiversity materials are encouraged to comment on and adapt those materials in a continual effort to refine and improve Wikiversity's resources.

=== Learning ===
People can always learn, but should the Wikiversity offer complete courses? 

[[User:WiseWoman|WiseWoman]] does not see why not. The Wikiversity will not be able to organize tutoring for individual courses, but there is no reason why individual lessons, or indeed entire courses, should not be made available under appropriate license to the community. See [[Wikiversity:Online Course]] for more.

While complete courses are possible for a wiki, there are limitations in the wiki user environment that may make it difficulty to attract and maintain online participants in conventional courses. Conventional courses normally involve the concentration of instructors, learners and learning materials in time and space. The virtual learning environment of Wikiversity will be more suited to flexible wiki-based learning projects that will allow Wikiversity participants to come and go at any time in the usual wiki way. A fundamental unit of organization within Wikiversity will be the [[Wikiversity:Learning#Learning groups|learning group]].

== Research ==
There are currently two major distinctions made in the research area with respect to wikis. There is research concerned with wikis as the objects of investigation, that is, [[Research|research about wikis]] as it already exists at the Wikimedia Metawiki. Wikiversity will definitely be open to efforts that support this kind of research about wikis. Wikiversity participants will routinely engage in all types of &quot;secondary research&quot; that is aimed at critical evaluation of published sources of information. The other kind of research is wiki-based original research. It is not yet clear that this will be part of the Wikiversity. If the Wikiversity community decides to support original research, it will have to develop a specific set of policies to support such research activities.

=== About wikis ===
There is already a large body of research that has been conducted with various institutions about wikis. The [[meta:Wiki Research Bibliography|Wiki Research Bibliography]] is a bibliography of scientific publications and sources about wikis in general and Wikipedia in particular. Additions should be made there only for the time being.

=== Using wikis ===
Although the use of wikis as a collaboration basis for research in various subjects is undisputably useful, the question arises as to whether Wikiversity can actually host work-in-progress. [[User:WiseWoman|WiseWoman]] is of the opinion that the Wikiversity should be reserved for completed research &amp;mdash; however, papers that have not been published elsewhere should be welcomed (only if they're under a free license of course). However, providing for learning communities to develop, modify and use the materials on Wikiversity, itself constitutes a way in which research could be done as an activity on Wikiversity.

== Earning Degrees ==
In order to earn a degree, a certain amount of credit must be earned with an accredited organization, that is, some body of experts must determine that the program and the coursework make sense in the context of the degree to be conferred.

'''Wikiversity will not be a degree granting institution''', although the materials available at Wikiversity can definitely be used by students and instructors at accredited institutions as a basis for the partial fulfillment of examination requirements for an accredited course.

===What Wikiversity is not===
* We do not run traditional courses
* We do not grant degrees
* We are not out to get accreditation

== Digital Libraries ==
The Wikiversity can provide a commented guide to the varied digital libraries around. But we do not provide our own library.

=Wikimedia projects=
Wikiversity will seek to complement other Wikimedia sites by adding to their content, and acting as a resource for their communities. However, it will not seek to duplicate their material.

==Wikibooks==
Wikibooks is a repository of textbooks, which are specifically educational resources, but which are ultimately developed to be ''books''. Wikiversity will host educational content on similar subjects, but its aim is to host and create multimedia learning resources which can be used flexibly, in different contexts, whether as &quot;off the shelf&quot; resources for teachers in class, or as prompts for collaborative work themselves &amp;mdash; whether within Wikiversity, or even other Wikimedia projects (eg. about academic versus layman writing in Wikipedia articles). This will include things like lesson plans, lecture notes, presentation slides, memory flash cards, listening exercises, educational video (within bandwidth reason).

==Wikisource==
Wikisource is for hosting free-content material, much of which is out of copyright. This kind of material should stay at Wikisource, but could be used, along with other Wikimedia content, to complement material at Wikiversity. (There could also, of course, be some kind of course/material on Wikiversity about copyright or related licensing issues, that could benefit the raising of awareness of this key component of Wikimedia projects.)

==Commons==
As noted, Wikiversity is for multimedia learning resources (ie video, sound, graphics, text), which could also be hosted on Commons, but, if they are specifically designed for an educational use, it would probably be better to host them at Wikiversity.

==Others==
Other Wikimedia projects, Wikipedia, Wiktionary, Wikiquote, and Wikispecies, have very clear goals which do not overlap with Wikiversity's at all. However, Wikiversity will attempt to benefit any/all of these projects &amp;mdash; for example, by developing resources, methods and communities to improve Wikipedia articles/graphics etc., or information on animal/plant taxonomies, or, of course, translation efforts between projects.

==Wikicommunity or Communitas==
Please read [[Meta:Talk:Communitas#A Communitas example instance: The Perl Wiki in Wikia]]

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Hello! I'm here from en.wikiversity to try to help with interlingual collaboration. Though I speak and write only English, I have started the [[Wikipedia:v:Wikiversity:Interlingual Beta Club|Interlingual Beta Club]] to help foster [[Wikiversity:multilingualism|multilingualism]] across the various language Wikiversities and betas.
==Ideas==
I'm thinking it would be nice to have some parallel texts presented on a single page in many languages that revolve around some common keywords. In my opinion, the purpose of beta.wikiversity.org is to provide a language neutral way for speakers and writers of different languages to work on syncronizing Wikiversity content. I'm hoping also that the [[Translation]] here can build upon the work done at [[m:Multilingualism|Multilingualism]] at Meta.</text>
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==about me==
I am working in the IT-business in quality management. Because of this I write/edit some articles about testing/quality.&lt;br&gt;
The first article I wrote, was kind of much work. I thought at beginning it would take just 30 mins.
I had everything prepared in notepad, but there has to be considered many things when writing a wiki-article.
And then when I reached the neutrality point, I realized, what I wrote unconsciously in the article.
So, lots of work at first, but now with time I get faster :-)


==other wiki projects, where I am involved==

Wikiversity:&lt;br&gt;
*[[:de:Kurs:Software-Test|German course: Software-Test]]
*[[:en:Topic:Software_testing|English course: software testing]]

Wikipedia:&lt;br&gt;
*[http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Erkan_Yilmaz German]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Erkan_Yilmaz English]

[http://academia.wikia.com/wiki/Journal_of_Computer_Science_and_Software_Engineering:Software_testing:White_box_design_techniques academia.wikia.com]&lt;br&gt;
[http://de.wikibooks.org/wiki/Benutzer:Erkan_Yilmaz Wikibooks]

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==Anerkannter Wikiversity Projektvorschlag? ==
Guten Tag, Erkan Yilmaz.  Wo ist der Deutsche Text für ''[[Wikiversity:Approved_Wikiversity_project_proposal]]''?--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|書]] 22:57, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
:Hello Hillgentleman, merry christmas to you my friend. I did not know, that I should translate it, but after that imperative I will do it :-) ----[[User:Erkan_Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] ([http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Erkan_Yilmaz/Bewertung &lt;small&gt;evaluate me!&lt;/small&gt;], [[User_talk:Erkan_Yilmaz|&lt;small&gt;discussion&lt;/small&gt;]]) 00:38, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
::I am starting it now [[Wikiversity:Approved_Wikiversity_project_proposal/De|here]]. Can you please implement it into [[Wikiversity:Approved_Wikiversity_project_proposal|here]]? I seem to have a prob doing this. ----[[User:Erkan_Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] ([http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Erkan_Yilmaz/Bewertung &lt;small&gt;evaluate me!&lt;/small&gt;], [[User_talk:Erkan_Yilmaz|&lt;small&gt;discussion&lt;/small&gt;]]) 00:56, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Thank you.  I thought there were an existing German copy already.--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|書]] 02:07, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
::::Well, not that I know of. Actually is there something like a participating list, so that we can see, if another German participant was around an dmight have created it? I am still online for a while :-) ----[[User:Erkan_Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] ([http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Erkan_Yilmaz/Bewertung &lt;small&gt;evaluate me!&lt;/small&gt;], [[User_talk:Erkan_Yilmaz|&lt;small&gt;discussion&lt;/small&gt;]]) 02:09, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::There may be a [[:category:user de]].  Not all users use these categories.--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|書]] 02:12, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
::::::Ok, I will continue then. Thx for your help Hillgentleman. I will tell you, when I finish the article. ----[[User:Erkan_Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] ([http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Erkan_Yilmaz/Bewertung &lt;small&gt;evaluate me!&lt;/small&gt;], [[User_talk:Erkan_Yilmaz|&lt;small&gt;discussion&lt;/small&gt;]]) 02:22, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
::::::good night, will continue tomorrow then. ----[[User:Erkan_Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] ([http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Erkan_Yilmaz/Bewertung &lt;small&gt;evaluate me!&lt;/small&gt;], [[User_talk:Erkan_Yilmaz|&lt;small&gt;discussion&lt;/small&gt;]]) 03:14, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Thank you for your information.  I don't know what is evaluation.--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|書]] 21:56, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
==[[Template:wikiversity]]==
*I would rather   keep it until the corresponding pages are translated.  Even a lot of the English pages are not yet  here.--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|書]] 15:58, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
:agreed, then we let them, until we translate all. ----[[User:Erkan_Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] ([http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Erkan_Yilmaz/Bewertung &lt;small&gt;evaluate me!&lt;/small&gt;], [[User_talk:Erkan_Yilmaz|&lt;small&gt;discussion&lt;/small&gt;]]) 16:27, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
**However, since the entries in the template point only to the multi-lingual junction,  I think we can translate them like this: [[wikiversity:scope|Bereich]] ----[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|書]] 16:02, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
::Well, then let me translate the article &quot;Scope&quot; :-) ----[[User:Erkan_Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] ([http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Erkan_Yilmaz/Bewertung &lt;small&gt;evaluate me!&lt;/small&gt;], [[User_talk:Erkan_Yilmaz|&lt;small&gt;discussion&lt;/small&gt;]]) 16:27, 28 December 2006 (UTC)</text>
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    The work on this page is in progress.

[[:en:Topic:Translation|English Wikiversity Translation Department]] &amp;bull; &lt;small&gt;[[Wikiversity:Multilingualism]]&lt;/small&gt;
==Subdivision news==
* '''29 November 2006''' - Subdivision replicated at Beta.Wikiversity
* ...

== Learning Groups ==
See [[Wikipedia:v:Topic:Multilingual Studies|Multilingual Studies]] (en.wikiversity) for a more in-depth listing for Learning groups and topics within the larger [[:en:Multilingual worksheet|Multilingualism Practicum]]. This is just a rough outline:

[[Wikipedia:v:School:Language and Literature]]:
*[[Wikipedia:v:Topic:Foreign Language Learning]]
* ...

[[Wikipedia:v:School:Linguistics]]:
*[[Wikipedia:v:Topic:History of Linguistics|History of Linguistics]]
*[[Wikipedia:v:Topic:English Language]]
*...

[[Wikipedia:v:School:Media Studies]]
*[[Wikiversity the Movie]]
*[[Wikiversity the Movie/multi-lingual]]
*...

[[Wikipedia:v:School:Computer Science]]
*[[Wikipedia:v:Topic:Computational linguistics]]
*[[Wikipedia:v:Topic:Computer-assisted Translation]]
*...

== Learning materials ==
[[Wikiversity:Translator's Handbook]].
* Introduction ''See [[Wikiversity:Essay Contest]]''
* [[Topic:Languages|Languages]] ''Will discuss [[:Category:Languages and Language families]] in detail covering 
* [[Topic:Linguistics]]
* [[Topic:Lexicography]]
* [[Topic:Translation|Appendix]]
== Multilingualism at Wikiversity ==
[[Wikiversity:Multilingualism]] describes the multilingual system on Wikiversity Beta.

== Wikiversity Translators ==
{{translators}}

[[Category:Wikiversity Translators]]

== Wikimedia Service community ==
The following sections cover translation-related topics and list [[Wikipedia:v:Wikiversity:Service|Translation services]] by and for the Wikimedia-Wikiversity [[Service community]].
=== Meta ===
[[m:Main Page|Meta]] has a cornucopia of resources for translators!

[[m:Multilingualism]]:
*[[m:Translators]]
*[[m:Translation process]]
*[[m:Interlingual coordination]]
*[[m:Meta:Conventions for multilingualism]]
*...

[[m:Category:Multilingualism]]
*[[m:Category:Transbabel]]
*[[m:Category:Translator's Templates]]
*...

&lt;small&gt;Note: We have adapted the meta Tranlator's Templates and are working on an adaptation of the [[Transbabel Multilingual Schema]] here at [[Wikiversity:Templates#Translation]] See [[Template:Translators]].&lt;/small&gt;

=== Wikipedia ===
[[w:Main Page|Wikipedia]]
==== Articles ====
'''[[w:Meaning (linguistics)|Meanings]]:''' [[w:grammar|grammar]], [[w:semantics|semantics]], [[w:syntax|syntax]], [[w:idiom|idiom]], [[w:word|word]], [[w:phrase|phrase]], [[w:sentance|sentance]], [[w:source text|source text]], [[w:source language|source language]], [[w:target language|target language]], ...

'''[[w:Language|Language]]:''' [[w:Natural language|Natural language]], [[w:Language family|Language family]], [[w:Linguistic typology|Linguistic typology]], [[w:Writing systems|Writing systems]], [[w:List of languages|List of languages]], [[w:List of official languages|List of official languages]], [[w:List of common phrases in various languages|List of common phrases in various languages]], ...

'''[[w:Linguistics|Linguistics]]:''' [[w:Morphology (linguistics)|Morphology]], [[w:Etymology|Etymology]], [[w:Corpus linguistics|Corpus linguistics]], [[w:Text corpus|Text corpus]], [[w:Cognitive linguistics|Cognitive linguistics]], [[w:Computational linguistics|Computational linguistics]], [[w:Machine translation|Machine translation]], [[w:Speech recognition|Speech recognition]], [[w:Language recognition chart|Language recognition chart]], [[w:Part-of-speech tagging|Part-of-speech tagging]], ...

'''[[w:Translation|Translation]]:''' [[w:translation dictionary|translation dictionary]], [[w:Translation process|Translation process]], [[w:Translation studies|Translation studies]], [[w:Translation unit|Translation unit]], [[w:Computer-assisted translation|Computer-assisted translation]], [[w:Machine translation|Machine translation]], ...

==== Projects ====
'''[[w:Wikipedia:Wikipedia Embassy|Wikipedia Embassy]]:'''
*[[w:Wikipedia:Multilingual coordination|Wikipedia:Multilingual coordination]]
*[[w:Wikipedia:Wikipedians]]
*[[w:Wikipedia:Interwikimedia link]]
*[[w:Wikipedia:Interlanguage links]]
*...

'''[[w:Wikipedia:WikiProject Linguistics|Wikipedia:WikiProject Linguistics]]:'''
*[[w:Wikipedia:WikiProject Languages|WikiProject Languages]]
*[[w:Wikipedia:WikiProject Language families|WikiProject Language families]]
*[[w:Wikipedia:WikiProject Writing systems|WikiProject Writing systems]]
*[[w:Wikipedia:WikiProject Latin alphabet|WikiProject Latin alphabet]]
*[[w:Wikipedia:WikiProject Phonetics|WikiProject Phonetics]]
*[[w:Wikipedia:WikiProject Constructed languages|WikiProject Constructed languages]]
*[[w:Wikipedia:WikiProject Theoretical Linguistics|WikiProject Theoretical Linguistics]]

'''[[w:Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer science|Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer science]]'''

==== Languages ====
List of Wikipedias in other languages:

#[http://ab.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ab-Cyrl&quot;&gt;аҧсуа бысжѡа&lt;/span&gt; (Abkhazian)]
#[http://af.wikipedia.org Afrikaans]
#[http://als.wikipedia.org Alemannisch (Alemannic)]
#[http://am.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;am&quot; dir=&quot;rtl&quot;&gt;አማርኛ&lt;/span&gt; (Amharic)]
#[http://ar.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ar&quot; dir=&quot;rtl&quot;&gt;‫العربية‬&lt;/span&gt; (Arabic)]
#[http://an.wikipedia.org Aragonés (Aragonese)]
#[http://roa-rup.wikipedia.org Armâneashti (Aromanian)]
#[http://as.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;as&quot;&gt;অসমীয়া&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;/ &lt;span lang=&quot;as-Latn&quot;&gt;Asami&lt;/span&gt; (Assamese)]
#[http://arc.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;arc&quot;&gt;ܣܘܪܬ&lt;/span&gt; (Assyrian Neo-Aramaic)]
#[http://ast.wikipedia.org Asturianu (Asturian)]
#[http://gn.wikipedia.org Avañe'ẽ (Guarani)]
#[http://av.wikipedia.org Авар (Avar)]
#[http://ay.wikipedia.org Aymar (Aymara)]
#[http://az.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;az&quot;&gt;Azərbaycan dili&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;/ &lt;span lang=&quot;az-Arab&quot; dir=&quot;rtl&quot;&gt;آذربايجان ديلی&lt;/span&gt; (Azerbaijani)]
#[http://id.wikipedia.org Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian)]
#[http://ms.wikipedia.org Bahasa Melayu (Malay)]
#[http://bm.wikipedia.org Bamanankan (Bambara)]
#[http://bn.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;bn&quot;&gt;বাংলা&lt;/span&gt; (Bengali)]
#[http://zh-min-nan.wikipedia.org Bân-lâm-gú (Southern Min)]
#[http://jv.wikipedia.org Basa Jawa (Javanese)]
#[http://map-bms.wikipedia.org Basa Banyumasan (Banyumasan)]
#[http://su.wikipedia.org Basa Sunda (Sundanese)]
#[http://ba.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ba&quot;&gt;Башҡорт&lt;/span&gt; (Bashkir)]
#[http://be.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;be&quot;&gt;Беларуская&lt;/span&gt; (Belarusian)]
#[http://bh.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;bh&quot;&gt;भोजपुरी&lt;/span&gt; (Bihari)]
#[http://mt.wikipedia.org bil-Malti (Maltese)]
#[http://bi.wikipedia.org Bislama]
#[http://bo.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;bo&quot;&gt;བོད་ཡིག&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;/ &lt;span lang=&quot;bo-Latn&quot;&gt;Bod skad&lt;/span&gt; (Tibetan)]
#[http://bs.wikipedia.org Bosanski (Bosnian)]
#[http://br.wikipedia.org Brezhoneg (Breton)]
#[http://bug.wikipedia.org Basa Ugi (Buginese)]
#[http://bg.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;bg-Cyrl&quot;&gt;Български&lt;/span&gt; (Bulgarian)]
#[http://ca.wikipedia.org Català (Catalan)]
#[http://cbk-zam.wikipedia.org Chavacano (Chavacano de Zamboanga)]
#[http://cho.wikipedia.org Cahta (Choctaw)]
#[http://ch.wikipedia.org Chamorru (Chamorro)]
#[http://cv.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;cv&quot;&gt;Чӑваш&lt;/span&gt; (Chuvash)]
#[http://cs.wikipedia.org Čeština (Czech)]
#[http://ny.wikipedia.org chiChewa]
#[http://sn.wikipedia.org chiShona (Shona)]
#[http://tum.wikipedia.org chiTumbuka (Tumbuka)]
#[http://ve.wikipedia.org Chivenda (Venda)]
#[http://co.wikipedia.org Corsu (Corsican)]
#[http://za.wikipedia.org Cuengh (Zhuang)]
#[http://cy.wikipedia.org Cymraeg (Welsh)]
#[http://da.wikipedia.org Dansk (Danish)]
#[http://pdc.wikipedia.org Deitsch (Pennsylvania German)]
#[http://de.wikipedia.org Deutsch (German)]
#[http://nv.wikipedia.org Diné bizaad (Navajo)]
#[http://dv.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;dv&quot; dir=&quot;rtl&quot;&gt;ދިވެހި&lt;/span&gt; (Divehi)]
#[http://na.wikipedia.org dorerin Naoero (Nauruan)]
#[http://dz.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;dz&quot;&gt;ཇོང་ཁ&lt;/span&gt; (Dzongkha)]
#[http://lad.wikipedia.org Dzhudezmo (Ladino)]
#[http://et.wikipedia.org Eesti (Estonian)]
#[http://el.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;el&quot;&gt;Ελληνικά&lt;/span&gt; (Greek)]
#[http://ang.wikipedia.org Englisc (Anglo-Saxon)]
#[http://en.wikipedia.org English]
#[http://es.wikipedia.org Español (Spanish)]
#[http://eo.wikipedia.org Esperanto]
#[http://eu.wikipedia.org Euskara (Basque)]
#[http://to.wikipedia.org Faka Tonga (Tongan)]
#[http://fa.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;fa&quot; dir=&quot;rtl&quot;&gt;‫فارسی‬&lt;/span&gt; (Persian)]
#[http://fo.wikipedia.org Føroyskt (Faroese)]
#[http://fr.wikipedia.org Français (French)]
#[http://frp.wikipedia.org Franco-provençal (Arpitan)]
#[http://fy.wikipedia.org Frysk (West Frisian)]
#[http://ff.wikipedia.org Fulfulde (Peul)]
#[http://fur.wikipedia.org Furlan (Friulian)]
#[http://ga.wikipedia.org Gaeilge (Irish)]
#[http://gv.wikipedia.org Gaelg (Manx)]
#[http://sm.wikipedia.org Gagana Samoa (Samoan)]
#[http://gd.wikipedia.org Gàidhlig (Scots Gaelic)]
#[http://gl.wikipedia.org Galego (Galician)]
#[http://gu.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;gu&quot;&gt;ગુજરાતી&lt;/span&gt; (Gujarati)]
#[http://got.wikipedia.org Gutisk (Gothic)]
#[http://ko.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ko&quot;&gt;한국어&lt;/span&gt; (Korean)]
#[http://ha.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ha&quot; dir=&quot;rtl&quot;&gt;هَوُسَ&lt;/span&gt; (Hausa)]
#[http://haw.wikipedia.org Hawai`i (Hawaiian)]
#[http://hy.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;hy&quot;&gt;Հայերեն&lt;/span&gt; (Armenian)]
#[http://hi.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;hi&quot;&gt;हिन्दी&lt;/span&gt; (Hindi)]
#[http://ho.wikipedia.org Hiri Motu]
#[http://hr.wikipedia.org Hrvatski (Croatian)]
#[http://io.wikipedia.org Ido]
#[http://ilo.wikipedia.org Ilokano]
#[http://ig.wikipedia.org Igbo]
#[http://ia.wikipedia.org Interlingua]
#[http://ie.wikipedia.org Interlingue (ex Occidental)]
#[http://iu.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;iu&quot;&gt;ᐃᓄᒃᑎᑐᑦ&lt;/span&gt; (Inuktitut)]
#[http://ik.wikipedia.org Iñupiak (Inupiak)]
#[http://os.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;os&quot;&gt;Иронау&lt;/span&gt; (Ossetian)]
#[http://xh.wikipedia.org isiXhosa (Xhosa)]
#[http://zu.wikipedia.org isiZulu (Zulu)]
#[http://is.wikipedia.org Íslenska (Icelandic)]
#[http://it.wikipedia.org Italiano (Italian)]
#[http://he.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;he&quot; dir=&quot;rtl&quot;&gt;‫עברית‬&lt;/span&gt; (Hebrew)]
#[http://mh.wikipedia.org Kajin Majel (Marshallese)]
#[http://kl.wikipedia.org Kalaallisut (Greenlandic)]
#[http://xal.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;xal&quot;&gt;Хальмг&lt;/span&gt; (Kalmyk)]
#[http://kn.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;kn&quot;&gt;ಕನ್ನಡ&lt;/span&gt; (Kannada)]
#[http://kr.wikipedia.org Kanuri]
#[http://pam.wikipedia.org Kapampangan]
#[http://ka.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ka&quot;&gt;ქართული&lt;/span&gt; (Georgian)]
#[http://ks.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ks&quot;&gt;कश्मीरी&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;/ &lt;span lang=&quot;ks-Arab&quot; dir=&quot;rtl&quot;&gt;كشميري&lt;/span&gt; (Kashmiri)]
#[http://csb.wikipedia.org Kaszëbsczi (Kashubian)]
#[http://kk.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;kk&quot;&gt;Қазақша&lt;/span&gt; (Kazakh)]
#[http://kw.wikipedia.org Kernewek&amp;nbsp;/ Karnuack (Cornish)]
#[http://kg.wikipedia.org Kikongo (Kongo)]
#[http://ki.wikipedia.org Kikuyu]
#[http://rw.wikipedia.org Kinyarwandi (Rwandi)]
#[http://ky.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ky-Latn&quot;&gt;Kırgızca&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;/ &lt;span lang=&quot;ky-Cyrl&quot;&gt;Кыргызча&lt;/span&gt; (Kyrgyz)]
#[http://rn.wikipedia.org Kirundi]
#[http://sw.wikipedia.org Kiswahili (Swahili)]
#[http://km.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;km&quot;&gt;ភាសាខ្មែរ&lt;/span&gt; (Khmer)]
#[http://kv.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;kv&quot;&gt;Коми&lt;/span&gt; (Komi)]
#[http://ht.wikipedia.org Kreyol ayisyen (Haitian)]
#[http://kj.wikipedia.org Kuanyama]
#[http://ku.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ku&quot;&gt;Kurdî&amp;nbsp;/ &lt;span lang=&quot;ku-Arab&quot; dir=&quot;rtl&quot;&gt;كوردی&lt;/span&gt; (Kurdish)]
#[http://ksh.wikipedia.org Ripoarisch (Ripuarian)]
#[http://lo.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;lo&quot;&gt;ພາສາລາວ&lt;/span&gt; (Laotian)]
#[http://la.wikipedia.org Latina (Latin)]
#[http://lv.wikipedia.org Latviešu (Latvian)]
#[http://lb.wikipedia.org Lëtzebuergesch (Luxembourgish)]
#[http://lt.wikipedia.org Lietuvių (Lithuanian)]
#[http://lij.wikipedia.org Líguru (Ligurian)]
#[http://li.wikipedia.org Limburgs (Limburgish)]
#[http://ln.wikipedia.org Lingála]
#[http://jbo.wikipedia.org Lojban]
#[http://lg.wikipedia.org Luganda]
#[http://lmo.wikipedia.org Lumbaart (Lombard)]
#[http://hu.wikipedia.org Magyar (Hungarian)]
#[http://mk.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;mk&quot;&gt;Македонски&lt;/span&gt; (Macedonian)]
#[http://mg.wikipedia.org Malagasy]
#[http://ml.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ml&quot;&gt;മലയാളം&lt;/span&gt; (Malayalam)]
#[http://mi.wikipedia.org Māori]
#[http://mr.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;mr&quot;&gt;मराठी&lt;/span&gt; (Marathi)]
#[http://mo.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;mo&quot;&gt;Молдовеняскэ&lt;/span&gt; (Moldovan)]
#[http://mn.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;mn&quot;&gt;Монгол&lt;/span&gt; (Mongolian)]
#[http://mus.wikipedia.org Mvskoke (Creek)]
#[http://my.wikipedia.org Myanmasa (Burmese)]
#[http://nah.wikipedia.org Nāhuatl]
#[http://fj.wikipedia.org Na Vosa Vakaviti (Fijian)]
#[http://nl.wikipedia.org Nederlands (Dutch)]
#[http://cr.wikipedia.org Nehiyaw (Cree)]
#[http://ne.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ne&quot;&gt;नेपाली&lt;/span&gt; (Nepali)]
#[http://ja.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ja&quot;&gt;日本語&lt;/span&gt; (Japanese)]
#[http://nap.wikipedia.org Nnapulitano (Neapolitan)]
#[http://ce.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ce&quot;&gt;Нохчийн&lt;/span&gt; (Chechen)]
#[http://nrm.wikipedia.org Nouormand&amp;nbsp;/ Normaund (Norman)]
#[http://pih.wikipedia.org Norfuk (Norfolk)]
#[http://no.wikipedia.org Norsk bokmål (Norwegian Bokmål)]
#[http://nn.wikipedia.org Norsk nynorsk (Norwegian Nynorsk)]
#[http://oc.wikipedia.org Occitan]
#[http://or.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;or&quot;&gt;ଓଡ଼ିଆ&lt;/span&gt; (Oriya)]
#[http://om.wikipedia.org Oromifaa (Oromo)]
#[http://ng.wikipedia.org Oshiwambo (Ndonga)]
#[http://hz.wikipedia.org Otsiherero (Herero)]
#[http://pa.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;pa&quot;&gt;ਪਜਾਬੀ&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;/ &lt;span lang=&quot;pa&quot;&gt;पंजाबी&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;/ &lt;span lang=&quot;pa-Arab&quot; dir=&quot;rtl&quot;&gt;پنجابي&lt;/span&gt; (Punjabi)]
#[http://pag.wikipedia.org Pangasinan (Pangasinan)]
#[http://pi.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;pi-Latn&quot;&gt;Pāli&amp;nbsp;/ &lt;span lang=&quot;pi-Deva&quot;&gt;पाऴि&lt;/span&gt;]
#[http://pap.wikipedia.org Papiamentu]
#[http://ps.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ps&quot; dir=&quot;rtl&quot;&gt;پښتو&lt;/span&gt; (Pashto)]
#[http://nds.wikipedia.org Plattdüütsch (Low Saxon)]
#[http://pms.wikipedia.org Piemontèis (Piedmontese)]
#[http://pl.wikipedia.org Polski (Polish)]
#[http://pt.wikipedia.org Português (Portuguese)]
#[http://ty.wikipedia.org Reo Mā`ohi (Tahitian)]
#[http://ro.wikipedia.org Română (Romanian)]
#[http://rm.wikipedia.org Rumantsch (Romansh)]
#[http://rmy.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;rmy&quot;&gt;Romani&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;/ &lt;span lang=&quot;rmy-Deva&quot;&gt;रोमानी&lt;/span&gt;]	
#[http://qu.wikipedia.org Runa Simi (Quechua)]
#[http://ru.wikipedia.org Русский (Russian)]
#[http://se.wikipedia.org Sámegiella (Northern Sami)]
#[http://sg.wikipedia.org Sängö]
#[http://sa.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;sa&quot;&gt;संस्कृत&lt;/span&gt; (Sanskrit)]
#[http://sc.wikipedia.org Sardu (Sardinian)]
#[http://sco.wikipedia.org Scots]
#[http://st.wikipedia.org seSotho (Southern Sotho)]
#[http://tn.wikipedia.org Setswana (Tswana)]
#[http://sq.wikipedia.org Shqip (Albanian)]
#[http://ru-sib.wikipedia.org Siberian (Сибирской)]
#[http://scn.wikipedia.org Sicilianu (Sicilian)]
#[http://si.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;si&quot;&gt;සිංහල&lt;/span&gt; (Sinhalese)]
#[http://simple.wikipedia.org Simple English]
#[http://sd.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;sd&quot;&gt;سنڌي&lt;/span&gt; (Sindhi)]
#[http://ceb.wikipedia.org Sinugboanong Binisaya (Cebuano)]
#[http://ss.wikipedia.org SiSwati (Swati)]
#[http://sk.wikipedia.org Slovenčina (Slovak)]
#[http://sl.wikipedia.org Slovenščina (Slovenian)]
#[http://so.wikipedia.org Soomaaliga (Somali)]
#[http://sr.wikipedia.org Српски (Serbian)]
#[http://sh.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;sh-Latn&quot;&gt;Srpskohrvatski&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;/ &lt;span lang=&quot;sh-Cyrl&quot;&gt;Српскохрватски&lt;/span&gt; (Serbo-Croatian)]
#[http://fi.wikipedia.org Suomi (Finnish)]
#[http://sv.wikipedia.org Svenska (Swedish)]
#[http://tl.wikipedia.org Tagalog]
#[http://ta.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ta&quot;&gt;தமிழ்&lt;/span&gt; (Tamil)]
#[http://tt.wikipedia.org Tatarça (Tatar)]
#[http://te.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;te&quot;&gt;తెలుగు&lt;/span&gt; (Telugu)]
#[http://tet.wikipedia.org Tetun (Tetum)]
#[http://th.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;th&quot;&gt;ไทย&lt;/span&gt; (Thai)]
#[http://vi.wikipedia.org Tiếng Việt (Vietnamese)]
#[http://ti.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ti&quot;&gt;ትግርኛ&lt;/span&gt; (Tigrinya)]
#[http://tg.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;tg&quot;&gt;Тоҷикӣ&lt;/span&gt; (Tajik)]
#[http://tlh.wikipedia.org tlhIngan-Hol (Klingon)]
#[http://tpi.wikipedia.org Tok Pisin]
#[http://chr.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;chr&quot;&gt;ᏣᎳᎩ&lt;/span&gt; (Cherokee)]
#[http://chy.wikipedia.org Tsetsêhestâhese (Cheyenne)]
#[http://tr.wikipedia.org Türkçe (Turkish)]
#[http://tk.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;tk-Latn&quot;&gt;Türkmençe&amp;nbsp;/ &lt;span lang=&quot;tk-Arab&quot; dir=&quot;rtl&quot;&gt;تركمن&lt;/span&gt; (Turkmen)]
#[http://tw.wikipedia.org Twi]
#[http://udm.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;udm&quot;&gt;Удмурт&lt;/span&gt; (Udmurt)]
#[http://uk.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;uk&quot;&gt;Українська&lt;/span&gt; (Ukrainian)]
#[http://ur.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ur&quot; dir=&quot;rtl&quot;&gt;اردو&lt;/span&gt; (Urdu)]
#[http://ug.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ug-Arab&quot; dir=&quot;rtl&quot;&gt;ئۇيغۇرچە&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;/ &lt;span lang=&quot;ug-Latn&quot;&gt;Uyƣurqə&lt;/span&gt; (Uyghur)]
#[http://uz.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;uz-Cyrl&quot;&gt;Ўзбек&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;/ &lt;span lang=&quot;uz-Latn&quot;&gt;Oʻzbekche&lt;/span&gt; (Uzbek)]
#[http://vec.wikipedia.org Vèneto (Venetian)]
#[http://vo.wikipedia.org Volapük]
#[http://fiu-vro.wikipedia.org Võro]
#[http://wa.wikipedia.org Walon (Waloon)]
#[http://vls.wikipedia.org West-Vlaoms (West Flemish)]
#[http://war.wikipedia.org Winaray (Waray-Waray)]
#[http://wo.wikipedia.org Wollof (Wolof)]
#[http://ts.wikipedia.org Xitsonga (Tsonga)]
#[http://ii.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ii&quot;&gt;ꆇꉙ&lt;/span&gt; (Sichuan Yi)]
#[http://yi.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;yi&quot; dir=&quot;rtl&quot;&gt;ייִדיש&lt;/span&gt; (Yiddish)]
#[http://yo.wikipedia.org Yorùbá]
#[http://bat-smg.wikipedia.org Žemaitėška (Samogitian)]
#[http://zh.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;zh&quot;&gt;中文&lt;/span&gt; (Chinese)]]&lt;/span&gt;]
#[http://zh-yue.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;zh-tw&quot;&gt;粵語&lt;/span&gt; (Cantonese)]

=== Wiktionary ===
=== Wikibooks ===
=== Other ===
''Other:[[wikia:wikia]] [[wikia]] [[w:Wikia, Inc]] &amp;mdash; [[The Company]]''

==Active participants==
Please show the laguages you have a working knowlege of.
* [[User:CQ|CQ]] - [[Topic:English Language|English]]
* [[User:Erkan_Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] - [[Topic:German Language|German]], [[Topic:English Language|English]], [[Topic:Turkish Language|Turkish]], [[Topic:French Language|French]]
*...

''Join the [[Wikiversity:Interlingual Beta Club|Interlingual Beta Club]]''

== Other information ==


[[Category:Interlingual Beta Club]]
[[Category:Multilingualism|En]]
[[Category:EN]]</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Wikiversity:Translator's Handbook}}
{{Coordination page}}

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==See also==
[[Wikiversity:Translation]]

[[category:Wikiversity]]
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      <text xml:space="preserve">Dear CQ,  What do you plan to put in the page [[Wikiversity:Translator's Handbook]]?--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]-[[User talk:hillgentleman|User talk]] 21:34, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
:I'm not sure yet, Hillgentleman, but I think it should be consensus-driven and not too Anglo-centric. I have started an English version at [[Wikipedia:v:Wikiversity:Translator's Handbook|Wikiversity:Translator's Handbook]]. Since I speak and write only English, it's about as far as I can go, but [[m:Multilingualism]] has taught me a lot so far. See also the discussion [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Colloquium#technical_question:_for_discussion_pages:_linking_to_pages_in_other_languages_is_not_possible_.3F here]. Thanks for your interest! [[User:CQ|CQ]] 21:54, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
::To follow [[wikiversity:multilingualism]], we can set the page [[Wikiversity:Translator's Handbook]] as the navigation page, and put the material currently in that page in the '''/En''' subpage.---[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]-[[User talk:hillgentleman|User talk]] 03:14, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

::Wikiversity Beta is a combination of a ''meta''(=inter-lingual-coordination) site and an ''incubator'' site.  There is neither '''School:''' nor '''Topic:''' namespace here.  To structure the contents as ''departments'' and ''learning projects'' is rather confusing.  --[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]-[[User talk:hillgentleman|User talk]] 03:35, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Indeed a problem. I'm going to try converting the key links to local articles in the main namespace or the Wikiversity namespace or link them back to their originals at en.wikiversity. I'm also looking at de.wikiversity. es.wikiversity, etc. articles that correspond as directly as possible to key articles. This is going to be a long row to hoe. Thanks for the input and feedback! [[User:CQ|CQ]] 03:43, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Great.  Are the pages [[wikiversity:translation]] and [[wikiversity:translator's Handbook]] are working for you?--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]-[[User talk:hillgentleman|User talk]] 03:44, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Yes they seem to be working well. How are you doing that so quickly?! [[User:CQ|CQ]] 04:08, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::Cut and paste.--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]-[[User talk:hillgentleman|User talk]] 04:13, 30 November 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <comment>top matter</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">An English version of the [[Wikiversity:Translator's Handbook]] can be found [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Translator's_Handbook here].</text>
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      <comment>typo</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">The Interlingual Beta Club is forming.

*[http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Interlingual_Beta_Club  Interlingual Beta Club - English]
*[http://de.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Interlingual_Beta_Club  Interlingual Beta Club - Deutsch]
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      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Wikiversity:Translator's Handbook}}

              Work in Progress

&lt;center&gt;[[Multilingual Studies|Institute for Multilingual Studies]]

'''[[Wikiversity:Translator's Handbook|Translator's Handbook]]'''

[[Wikipedia:v:Wikiversity translations/Training translators|Interlingual Training Manual]]
----
&lt;small&gt;This handbook is part of a [[Wikipedia:v:multilingual worksheet|learning path]] for Wikiversity participants who wish to become '''[[certified translator]]s''' while helping to produce [[Wikiversity translations]].&lt;/small&gt;
&lt;/center&gt;
== Introduction ==
[[:Category:Interlingual Beta Club|IBC Essay]]: Why learn to translate?

Winning Essay goes here
----
The [[:Category:Interlingual Beta Club|Interlingual Beta Club]] would like an enlightening and inspirational introduction to The [[Wikiversity:Translator's Handbook]].
== Translating in groups ==
Some say translating is an art, some say it is a science. Here at the [[Translation|Translation Department]], we think it's a matter of [[w:interpretation|interpretation]] (pun intended). 

For us it's a simple matter of getting the job done. Translating [[Wikiversity]] is a daunting task. No matter how or where you start, you're still at the tip of the iceberg. This version of the handbook is written in [[English]]. [[German]] and [[Chinese]] versions are just right over there, but '''[[Languages|All Languages]]''' need to be taken into account. Impossible? You should never feel alone in this work. In the context of translating, ''participation is everything!''

'''Reading:''' 
*[[Wikipedia:v:Wikiversity translations/Recruiting translators|Wikiversity translations/Recruiting translators]]
*[[Wikipedia:v:Wikiversity translations/Training translators|Wikiversity translations/Training translators]]

== Learning Families ==
[[Wikiversity]], using a method similar to, but more efficient than [[w:Wikipedia:Multilingual coordination|Multilingual coordination at Wikipedia]] must come up with its own approach to [[Topic:Foreign Language Learning|Foreign Language Learning]] (and teaching). Here we have a unique opportunity to collaborate between and among Wikiversity versions and Betas, and have a bit of fun doing it. The [[Wikiversity:Interlingual Beta Club|Interlingual Beta Club]] is made up of native speakers and writers from many languages and backgrounds. The imperative of [[collaboration]] between Schools, Divisions and Departments expedite the process in several ways:
#[[School:Media Studies|Media Studies]] can pair with [[School:Computer Science|Computer Science]] to design an audio interface for [[w:Computer assisted translation|Computer assisted translation]]
#[[Topic:Audio Engineering|Audio Engineering]] can be used to record well-known public-domain [[w:literary works]] that have already been translated into numerous languages to present comparitive samples of the same texts across languages.
#[[School:Linguistics|Linguistic]] elements can be programmed into [[w:Artificial Intellegence|AI components]] to tweak the performance of [[w:machine translation|machine translation]] systems.
#[[Wikiversity:Colloquium#Translator's Handbook|Brainstorm!!!]]

&lt;small&gt;'''[[Wikiversity:Schools|Schools]]:''' 
[[School:Media Studies|Media Studies]] | 
[[School:Linguistics|Linguistics]] | 
[[School:Computer Science|Computer Science]] | 
[[School:Language and Literature|Language and Literature]]
&lt;/small&gt;

== Language Families ==
'''NEXT:''' ''[[Topic:Languages|Languages]]''

'''Explore:'''
*[[:Category:Languages and Language families|Languages and Language families]]
*[[:Category: Wikiversity translations]]
*[[b:Wikibooks:Languages bookshelf|Wikibooks:Languages bookshelf]]
== Linguistics ==
[[School:Linguistics]] - [[Portal:Linguistics]]

== Lexicography ==
Many keywords on the various Wikipedias have links in the left sidebar to other language articles with the same name, but translated to the other language. Tables like this one can be made to tabulate these keywords:

{| class=wikitable
|-
|'''English'''||[[Wikipedia:Lexicon|Lexicon]]
|[[Wikipedia:Dictionary|Dictionary]]
|[[Wikipedia:Translation|Translation]]
|-
|'''Deutsch'''||[http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexikon Lexikon]
|[http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C3%B6rterbuch Wörterbuch]
|[http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Cbersetzung_%28Sprache%29 Übersetzung]
|-
|'''Español'''||[http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A9xico Léxico]
|[http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diccionario Diccionario]
|[http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traducci%C3%B3n Traducción]
|-
|'''Français'''||[http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexique Lexique]
|[http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictionnaire Dictionnaire]
|[http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traduction Traduction]
|-
|'''Nederlands'''||[http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexicon Lexicon]
|[http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woordenboek Woordenboek]
|[http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertaling Vertaling]
|-
|'''Polski'''||[http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leksykon Leksykon]
|[http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C5%82ownik Słownik]
|[http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C5%82umacz Tłumacz]
|}

Translation Lexicons and Dictionaries:
*[http://www.rosettaproject.org/ Rosetta Project]
*[[m:Eurodicautom|Eurodicautom]] European Terminology Database
*[http://www.logos.it Logos Dictionary] 
*[http://lookwayup.com/free/dictionary.htm LookWAYup Dictionary] 
*[http://www.majstro.com Majstro] 
*[http://www.wordreference.com Word Reference] 
*[http://www.yourdictionaries.com Your Dictionaries] English version of diccionarios.com

This chapter of the Translator's Handbook may someday contain an expansive lexicon.

== Machine Translation ==
[[Wikipedia:Machine translation|Machine translation]] is is a sub-field of '''[[Topic:Computational linguistics|Computational linguistics]]''' that investigates the use of computer software to [[Topic:Translation|translate]] text or speech from one natural language to another. At its basic level, MT performs simple substitution of atomic words in one natural language for words in another.

The [[Wikiversity:Schools|Schools]] of [[School:Computer Science|Computer Science]] and [[School:Linguistics|Linguistics]] might someday meet at '''[[Topic:Computational linguistics|Computational linguistics]]''' to develop machine translation software for use at Wikiversity.

== Computer-assisted Translation ==
[[Wikipedia:Computer-assisted translation]], Computer-aided translation, or CAT is a form of [[Topic:translation|translation]] wherein a human translator translates texts using computer software designed to support and facilitate the translation process.

'''Computer-assisted translation''' is a broad and imprecise term covering a range of tools:
{| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; 
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! | Tool 
! Notes
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! style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#ececec&quot; | [http://www.foreigndesk.net/ ForeignDesk]
| [[HTML]], [[C (programming language)|C]] Source Files, Java Source Code,&lt;BR&gt;Microsoft Help File Sources (HPJ, HHC, HHK, CNT), Trados, Windows, Open Source
|-
! style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#ececec&quot; | [http://okapi.sourceforge.net/ Okapi Framework]
| PO, Windows RC, TMX, Wordfast, Trados, Java Properties, Regular-expression-based text, Illustrator, INX, ResX, Table-type files, [[XML]], Windows ([[Microsoft .NET|.NET]]), [[LGPL]]
|-
! style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#ececec&quot; | [http://omegatplus.sf.net OmegaT+]
| [[HTML]], [[DocBook]], Plain Text, [[PO]], JavaHelp, Java Resource Bundles, [[OpenOffice.org]], [[StarOffice]], [[Multiplatform]] ([[Topic:Java|Java]]), Open Source
|-
! style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#ececec&quot; | [http://www.omegat.org/omegat/omegat.html OmegaT]
| [[HTML]], [[DocBook]], Plain Text, [[PO]], JavaHelp, Java Resource Bundles, [[OpenOffice.org]], [[StarOffice]], [[Multiplatform]] ([[Topic:Java]]), Open Source
|-
! style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#ececec&quot; | [http://transolution.python-hosting.com/ Transolution]
| [[HTML]], [[StarOffice]]/[[Openoffice.org]],&lt;BR&gt;XLIFF, DOCBOOK, [[Multiplatform]] ([[Topic:Python|Python]]), [[GNU General Public License|GPL]]
|-
! style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#ececec&quot; | [http://www.aidtranssoft.com/ AidTransStudio]
| [[OpenOffice.org]],   MS Word Xml, Windows ([[Microsoft .NET|.NET]]), Basic: Free [[Proprietary]]
|-
! style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#ececec&quot; | [http://www.cafetran.republika.pl/ Cafetran]
| [[HTML]], [[XML]], [[OpenOffice.org]], [[AbiWord]], [[Kword]], MS Word, [[Multiplatform]] ([[Topic:Java|Java]] 
|-
! style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#ececec&quot; | [http://www.atril.com/ Déjà Vu (DVX)]
| [[XML]], Plain Text, [[OpenOffice.org]], Adobe FrameMaker, Adobe PageMaker, ASP, Interleaf/Quicksilver, InDesign, Help Content, [[SGML]], MS Access, MS Excel, MS PowerPoint, MS Word, QuarkXPress, RTF, Resource files, [[C (programming language)|C]]/[[C++]]/Java source files, Java Properties, [[JavaScript]], VBScript, [[GNU]] [[gettext]], Windows, 490 [[Euro]] (Expensive) [[Proprietary]]
|-
! style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#ececec&quot; | [http://www.heartsome.net Heartsome Translation Suite]
| [[HTML]]/[[XHTML]], [[XML]], Plain Text, [[OpenOffice.org]], [[StarOffice]], [[AbiWord]], PO/POT ([[GNU]] [[Gettext]]), [[Scalable Vector Graphics|SVG]], Adobe FrameMaker (MIF), Adobe InDesign, [[DocBook]], [[DITA]], Java Properties, [[JavaScript]], [[Rich Text Format|RTF]], Tagged RTF, Trados TTX, MS Office 2003 XML, ResX (Windows .NET Resources), RC (Windows C/C++ Resources), MS Office 2007 (beta), [[Multiplatform]] ([[Topic:Java|Java]] See [http://www.heartsome.net/EN/purchase.html price list] [[Proprietary]]
|-
! style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#ececec&quot; | [http://www.terminotix.com/ LogiTerm]
|???
|-
! style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#ececec&quot; | [http://www.memoqtm.com MemoQ]
| [[HTML]], plain text,&lt;BR&gt;MS Word (plus RTF and other Word documents), Excel, PowerPoint, Trados TTX, proprietary bilingual format, Windows, 4Free: Freeware Translator Pro: 390 Euro LSP 5: 1490 Euro [[Proprietary]]
|-
! style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#ececec&quot; | [http://www.metatexis.com/ MetaTexis]
| [[HTML]], [[XML]], Resource files&lt;BR&gt;MS Word (all kinds of text files that can be imported by MS Word), MS Excel, MS PowerPoint, Adobe FrameMaker, Adobe PageMaker, QuarkXPress, Windows Lite: 29 Euro, Pro: 79 Euro, .NET/Office: 109 Euro
[[Proprietary]]
|-
! style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#ececec&quot; | [http://www.cimos.com MLTS]
| ???
|-
! style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#ececec&quot; | [http://www.multicorpora.ca MultiCorpora MultiTrans]
| ???
|-
! style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#ececec&quot; | [http://www.multiling.com/fortis.htm MultiLing Fortis Translation Suite]
| ???
|-
! style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#ececec&quot; | [http://www.translate.com/technology/tools/index.html Rainbow]
| [[HTML]], [[XHTML]], Scripts,&lt;BR&gt;Photoshop, etc. Windows ([[Microsoft .NET|.NET]]) Freeware [[Proprietary]]
|-
! style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#ececec&quot; | [http://www.translationzone.com/component.asp?ID=245 SDLX]
| ???
|-
! style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#ececec&quot; | [http://www.star-group.net/deu/home.html STAR Transit]
| Text ANSI / ASCII / Unicode for Windows, Text for Apple Macintosh, Corel WordPerfect, HTML,  
XML (ASP.NET, ASP, JSP, XSL), SGML, SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics), MS Word for Windows, MS Excel, MS PowerPoint, RTF y RTF for WinHelp, RC, QuarkXPress, Adobe FrameMaker, Adobe PageMaker, Interleaf /Quicksilver,  Adobe InDesign,  XGate para QuarkXPress, AutoCAD, Windows [[Proprietary]]
|-
! style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#ececec&quot; | [http://www.trados.com/ Trados Translators Workbench]
| When it is installed, it automatically adds a template to MS word. To use in Excel, PowerPoint, one should use TagEditor installed with workbench 
|-
! style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#ececec&quot; | [http://www.ilsp.gr/traid/traiddownload.asp Tr-aid]
| ???
|-
! style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#ececec&quot; | [http://www.wordfast.net/ Wordfast]
|MS Word, Microsoft Office Word macro, 180 Euro [[Proprietary]]
|-
! style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#ececec&quot; | [http://www.wordfisher.com/ WordFisher]
| MS Word - WordBasic\Ms Office Word macro - Free Licence
|-
! style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#ececec&quot; | [http://similis.fr Similis]
| [[HTML]], PDF,&lt;BR&gt;Word, Trados Windows 295 Euro (monoposte) [[Proprietary]]
|-
! style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#ececec&quot; | [http://open-language-tools.dev.java.net/ Open Language Tools]
| HTML/XHTML, XML, DocBook SGML, ASCII, StarOffice/OpenOffice/ODF, .po (gettext), .properties, .java (ResourceBundle), .msg/.tmsg (catgets), [[Multiplatform]] [[Topic:Java|Java]], [[w:CDDL]]
|-
! style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot; bgcolor=&quot;#ececec&quot; | [http://poedit.org/ POedit software]
| [[Multiplatform]] Free
|}

The [[Wikiversity:Schools]] of [[School:Computer Science|Computer Science]] and [[School:Linguistics|Linguistics]] might someday meet at '''[[Topic:Computational linguistics|Computational linguistics]]''' to develop '''computer-assisted translation''' software for use at Wikiversity.

== Appendix ==
[[Topic:Translation]]

&lt;!-- active categories follow --&gt;
[[Category: Wikiversity translations]]
[[Category:Languages and Language families]]
[[Category:Computational linguistics]]
[[Category: Wikiversity translators]]
[[Category: Wikiversity Translators]]
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      <text xml:space="preserve">{| class=wikitable
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|'''[[Wikiversity:Translation/En|English]]'''||[[Wikipedia:Lexicon|Lexicon]]
|[[Wikipedia:Dictionary|Dictionary]]
|[[Translation]]
|-
|'''[[Wikiversity:Translation/De|Deutsch]]'''||[http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexikon Lexikon]
|[http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C3%B6rterbuch Wörterbuch]
|[[Übersetzung]]
|-
|'''[[Wikiversity:Translation/Es|Español]]'''||[http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A9xico Léxico]
|[http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diccionario Diccionario]
|[[Traducción]]
|-
|'''[[Wikiversity:Translation/Fr|Français]]'''||[http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexique Lexique]
|[http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictionnaire Dictionnaire]
|[[Traduction]]
|-
|'''[[Wikiversity:Translation/Nl|Nederlands]]'''||[http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexicon Lexicon]
|[http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woordenboek Woordenboek]
|[[Vertaling]]
|-
|'''[[Wikiversity:Translation/Pl|Polski]]'''||[http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leksykon Leksykon]
|[http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C5%82ownik Słownik]
|[[Tłumacz]]
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      <text xml:space="preserve">#REDIRECT [[Wikiversity:Translation/En]]</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Wikiversity:Translator's Handbook/Zh</title>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Wikiversity:Translator's Handbook}}

{{Stub}}
譯者手冊</text>
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    <title>Wikiversity:Translation/Zh</title>
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      <minor />
      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Wikiversity:Translation}}

{{stub}}
翻譯

[[Category:Interlingual Beta Club]]
[[Category:Multilingualism|Zh]]
[[Category:ZH]]</text>
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  <page>
    <title>User:人神之间</title>
    <id>2157</id>
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      <timestamp>2006-11-30T09:29:02Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>人神之间</username>
        <id>172</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>Redirecting to [[wikipedia:zh:User:人神之间]]</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">#redirect     [[wikipedia:zh:User:人神之间]]</text>
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  </page>
  <page>
    <title>Portal:化学科学</title>
    <id>2158</id>
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      <id>4549</id>
      <timestamp>2006-12-01T03:24:14Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Hillgentleman</username>
        <id>30</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>/* 參見 */</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;small&gt; &lt;[[首頁]]
&lt;center&gt;&lt;big&gt;歡迎來到化学科学院!&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/center&gt;
&lt;center&gt;[[Portal:理學院|理學院]]&lt;/center&gt;
&lt;center&gt; - [[Portal:工學院|工學院]] - [[Portal:生命科學|生命科學院]] - [[Portal:物理科學|物理科學院]] - [[Portal:化学科学|化学科学院]] - [[Portal:數學|數理科學研究院]] - &lt;/center&gt;

懇請參加者開發[[:en:Portal:Learning Materials|學習資源]]與[[:en:Portal:Learning Projects|學習計劃]], 並協助組織本院.

==院系(Schools)、與部門 (departments and divisions)==
院系
*[[School:化学|化学系]]
*[[School:应用化学|应用化学系]]
*[[School:計算化学|計算化学系]]
*[[School:绿色化学|绿色化学系]]

部
*[[Topic:生物化学|生物化学組]]

==主名空間內容的組織:==
*'''概念:''' 院 -&gt; 系-&gt; 部 -&gt; 課 
*'''名空間: '''Portal:- &gt; School:- &gt; Topic:- &gt; 主空間(無標題)
例: [[Portal:化学科学]] --&gt;[[School:化学]] ---&gt; [[Topic:生物化学]] ---&gt; [[蛋白质]]

==參與者==

==院訊 ==

==參見==
*[[:en:w:Portal:Chemistry]]

[[Category:ZH]]

[[en:Portal:Chemistry]]</text>
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    <title>Computational linguistics</title>
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      <contributor>
        <username>CQ</username>
        <id>111</id>
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      <comment>starting...</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">'''English:''' [[Wikipedia:Computational linguistics|Computational linguistics]] started as an effort to [[translation|translate]] between languages, but evolved into an entire discipline devoted to understanding how to represent and process individual natural languages using computers.


&lt;!-- interwiki --&gt;
[[ar:لسانيات حاسوبية]]
[[bg:Компютърна лингвистика]]
[[de:Computerlinguistik]]
[[en:Computational linguistics]]
[[eo:Komputila lingvistiko]]
[[es:Lingüística computacional]]
[[fa:زبان‌شناسی محاسباتی]]
[[fi:Kieliteknologia]]
[[fr:Linguistique informatique]]
[[he:בלשנות חישובית]]
[[hr:Računalna lingvistika]]
[[it:Linguistica computazionale]]
[[ja:計算言語学]]
[[ko:전산언어학]]
[[lv:Datorlingvistika]]
[[nl:Computationele taalkunde]]
[[pl:Lingwistyka komputerowa]]
[[pt:Lingüística computacional]]
[[ro:Lingvistică computaţională]]
[[ru:Компьютерная лингвистика]]
[[th:ภาษาศาสตร์เชิงคำนวณ]]
[[zh-min-nan:Kè-sǹg gí-giân-ha̍k]]
[[zh:计算机语言学]]</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Wikiversity:Scope/Zh</title>
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      <contributor>
        <username>Hillgentleman</username>
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      <minor />
      <comment>/* 學位 */</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Wikiversity:Scope}}
{{Wikiversity}}
維基學院與一般大學分別很多，但仍有共通之處; 維基學府亦與其他維基媒體計劃重覆，而這些重覆應導致良性相互作用，而非競爭。此維基頁之目的為組織一文件 &amp;mdash; 類似「何為維基學府？」 （&quot;What is Wikiversity?&quot;）
=大學與學習機構=
傳統上，大學為有志者會聚以學習、研究與獲取學位之所。

== 指導(''Instruction'') ==
指導包括教與學二元。以下分述之。

===教 Teaching ===
維基versity 當成為一優秀教材來源：參攷資料目、教案、課程、動態教材、優秀文章、課堂與自學念頭、討論課題、習作、、、；亦應成為新教學方法與技術之集散地。我們鼓勵曾用維基versity 內容之導師評論以及修改此等內容。

===學 Learning ===
維基versity 應否主持完整的課程？

[[User:WiseWoman|WiseWoman]] 認為無不可。(''cannot see why not'')維基學堂將無法為個别課程提供輔導，但或可以適當之授權證書(''licence'') 提供個别課堂，甚至整段課程。詳見[[Wikiversity:Online Course]]。

然而，若要舉辦傳統課程，或會受維基環境之特性所限。傳統課程須集中教員、學員與教材於一地一時。維基學府之環境適合更靈活之學習方式，容許參與者隨時參與或退出。維基學苑之基本組織單位為[[Wikiversity:Learning#Learning groups|研習組]]。

== 研究 ==
維基媒體現有的研究可分成兩大類：其一為元維基上[[m: Research|以維基為對象之研究]] ；維基學府將歡迎並支持之。 維基學府中人亦常會舉行各「次生研究」，即學術批判各種已出版的材料。其二為以維基為本之原創研究。至今維基學府仍未知會否容納原創研究。若維基學府社羣決定容納原創研究，則須發展一套專門之政策以之支援。

=== 研究維基 ===
現今已有大量各組織關於維基之研究－－參見[[meta:Wiki Research Bibliography|Wiki Research Bibliography]] 。

=== 維基研究 ===
以維基作為研究合作之基固然有用，但維基versity可否容納未完成之研究(''work-in-progress'')？ [[User:WiseWoman|WiseWoman]] 認為維基學府應只接受已完成之研究 &amp;mdash; 但維基學府應歡迎未在他處出版（並以自由證書發表）之論文。然而，支援學習社羣以發展、修改、應用維基學府上之材料，亦屬可行於維基學府上之研究活動。

== 學位 ==
任何人若要獲取學位，須於受承認(''accredited'')之機構積累足夠功課－－課程及內容需經專門人員審核以保與該學位相稱。

'''維基versity不會頒授學位''', although the materials available at Wikiversity can definitely be used by students and instructors at accredited institutions as a basis for the partial fulfillment of examination requirements for an accredited course.

===維基versity不===
* 辦傳統課程
* 頒學位
* 想得正式認可(''[[:en:w:accreditation]]'')

== Digital Libraries ==
The Wikiversity can provide a commented guide to the varied digital libraries around. But we do not provide our own library.

=各維基媒體計劃=
維基versity 將試補足與改善其他維基計劃之內容，並為其社羣提供額外資源；但不會重覆其內容。
==Wikibooks==
Wikibooks is a repository of textbooks, which are specifically educational resources, but which are ultimately developed to be ''books''. Wikiversity will host educational content on similar subjects, but its aim is to host and create multimedia learning resources which can be used flexibly, in different contexts, whether as &quot;off the shelf&quot; resources for teachers in class, or as prompts for collaborative work themselves &amp;mdash; whether within Wikiversity, or even other Wikimedia projects (e.g. about academic versus layman writing in Wikipedia articles). This will include things like lesson plans, lecture notes, presentation slides, memory flash cards, listening exercises, educational video (within bandwidth reason).

==Wikisource==
Wikisource is for hosting free-content material, much of which is out of copyright. This kind of material should stay at Wikisource, but could be used, along with other Wikimedia content, to complement material at Wikiversity. (There could also, of course, be some kind of course/material on Wikiversity about copyright or related licensing issues, that could benefit the raising of awareness of this key component of Wikimedia projects.)

==Commons==
As noted, Wikiversity is for multimedia learning resources (ie video, sound, graphics, text), which could also be hosted on Commons, but, if they are specifically designed for an educational use, it would probably be better to host them at Wikiversity.

==Others==
Other Wikimedia projects, Wikipedia, Wiktionary, Wikiquote, and Wikispecies, have very clear goals which do not overlap with Wikiversity's at all. However, Wikiversity will attempt to benefit any/all of these projects &amp;mdash; for example, by developing resources, methods and communities to improve Wikipedia articles/graphics etc., or information on animal/plant taxonomies, or, of course, translation efforts between projects.

==Wikicommunity or Communitas==
Please read [[Meta:Talk:Communitas#A Communitas example instance: The Perl Wiki in Wikia]]

[[Category:Wikiversity]]
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      <text xml:space="preserve">[[:en:w:ja:user:っ|jawp]]
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      <comment>[[メイン・ページ]] moved to [[メインページ]]: 左上のロゴからリンクするように</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">#REDIRECT [[メインページ]]</text>
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    <title>Template:Main page interwikis</title>
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      <contributor>
        <username>Guillom</username>
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      <minor />
      <comment>&lt;includeonly&gt;
[[de:]]
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[[fr:]]
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    <title>Topic:代數</title>
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      <contributor>
        <username>Hillgentleman</username>
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      <minor />
      <comment>New page: [[Portal:數學|數理科學研究院]]&gt;[[School:數學|數學系]]&gt;代數部

*[[Topic:群論]]
*[[Topic:同調代數]]
*[[Topic:交換環論]]
*[[Topic:代數幾何]]
*[[Topic:表示論]...</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">[[Portal:數學|數理科學研究院]]&gt;[[School:數學|數學系]]&gt;代數部

*[[Topic:群論]]
*[[Topic:同調代數]]
*[[Topic:交換環論]]
*[[Topic:代數幾何]]
*[[Topic:表示論]]
*[[Topic:代數數論]]

[[Category:Algebra]]
[[Category:ZH]]</text>
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      <contributor>
        <username>Erkan Yilmaz</username>
        <id>169</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>correct link to colloquium</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">{| class=wikitable
|+ [[:Category:Interlingual Beta Club|Interlingual Wikiversity]] main navigation table
!Language
!Main Page
!Welcome page
!Colloquium
|-
|[[English]]
|[[:en:Wikiversity:Main Page|Main Page]]
|[[:en:Wikiversity:Welcome, newcomers|Welcome]]
|[[:en:Wikiversity:Colloquium|Colloquium]]
|-
|[[Deutsch]]
|[[:de:Hauptseite|Hauptseite]]
|[[:de:Wikiversity:Willkommen|Willkommen]]
|[[:de:Wikiversity:Cafeteria|Cafeteria]]
|-
|[[Español]]
|[[:es:Portada|Portada]]
|[[:es:Wikiversidad:Bienvenido|Bienvenido]]
|[[:es:Wikiversidad:Claustro Wikiversitario|Claustro Wikiversitario]]
|-
|[[Français]]
|[[:fr:Accueil|Accueil]]
|[[:fr:Wikiversité:Bienvenue|Bienvenue]]
|[[:fr:Wikiversité:Colloque|Colloque]]
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        <username>CQ</username>
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      </contributor>
      <comment>adapting for Beta</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">This template has four versions as of 2 December 2006. Each corresponds to Wikiversity versions that have established subdomains. Other languages are still in [http://beta.wikiversity.org Beta] but will be added.

[[Template:InterlingualMainNavBeta]]:
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*{{tl|InterlingualMainNavDe}}
*{{tl|InterlingualMainNavEs}}
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      <contributor>
        <username>Erkan Yilmaz</username>
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      <comment>one prob with links</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve"># OK. Your turn. [[User:CQ|CQ]] 13:51, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
# ''next''


:What do you want here to be done CQ? A translation of [[Wikiversity:Translation/En|this page]] into German? --[[User:Erkan Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] 15:27, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
::Yes. I thought we would just replicate the table on each &quot;translation&quot; page in the main namespace, but we may want to convert them to redirects. What do you think? The link at the left on each row is to the [[Main Page|beta]] version of each language's translation department page here. Those are set up in the Wikiverty: project namespace and have the multilingual discussion functionality. Thanks! [[User:CQ|CQ]] 18:32, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Hi CQ, ok, will then translate it - wil try to do it this week - I hope on Friday at latest. CU, --[[User:Erkan Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] 06:26, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::::Done, see [[Wikiversity:Translation/De|here]]. 
::::But one prob: [[Wikiversity:Translation/De#Wikimedia_Service_Gemeinde|here]](also in English) - links do not work. --[[User:Erkan Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] 23:41, 8 December 2006 (UTC)</text>
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    <title>Portal:物理</title>
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      <minor />
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;small&gt; &lt;[[首頁]]
&lt;center&gt;&lt;big&gt;歡迎來到物理科學研究院!&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/center&gt;
&lt;center&gt;[[Portal:理學院|理學院]]&lt;/center&gt;
&lt;center&gt; - [[Portal:工學院|工學院]] - [[Portal:生物|生命科學院]] - [[Portal:物理|物理科學院]] - [[Portal:數學|數理科學研究院]] - &lt;/center&gt;

懇請參加者開發[[:en:Portal:Learning Materials|學習資源]]與[[:en:Portal:Learning Projects|學習計劃]], 並協助組織本院.

==院系(Schools)、與部門 (departments and divisions)==
院系
*[[School:物理|物理系]]
*[[School:天文|天文系]]
*[[School:地質|地質系]]

部
*[[Topic:數學物理|數學物理組]]

==主名空間內容的組織:==
&lt;small&gt;(參見 [[Wikiversity:架構]])&lt;/small&gt;
*'''概念:''' 院 -&gt; 系-&gt; 部/研究主題  -&gt; 課 
*'''名空間: '''Portal:- &gt; School:- &gt; Topic:- &gt; 主空間(無標題)
例: [[Portal:物理]] --&gt;[[School:物理]] ---&gt; [[Topic:量子力學]] ---&gt; [[測不準原理]]

==參與者==

==院訊 ==

==參見==
*[[:en:w:Portal:Physics]]

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      <comment>[[Portal:电子计算机与网络]] moved to [[Topic:电子计算机与网络]]: ''namespace''</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">#REDIRECT [[Topic:电子计算机与网络]]</text>
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        <username>Juan</username>
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      </contributor>
      <comment>typo</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">{{:Main Page/Top}}


{{Frame|Wikiversity:Announcements/Cs}}__NOTOC__
== Co je to &quot;Wikiversity Beta&quot;? ==

Beta wikiverzita (Wikiversity Beta) je prostor pro koordinaci všech projektů (jazykových mutací) wikiverzity.
Tato [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/En|jazyková koordinace]] (anglicky) musí respektovat [[Wikiversity:Mission|poslání]] (anglicky) wikiverzity a základní parametry projektu.


Beta wikiverzita je také inkubátorem nových jazykových mutací, které nejsou oddělenými projekty. Oddělenými projekty jsou v současnosti [[:en:Wikiversity:Main Page|Anglická wikiverzita]], [[:fr:Accueil|Francouzská wikiverzita]], [[:de:Hauptseite|Německá wikiverzita]] a [[:es:Portada|Španělská wikiverzita]]. Podívejte se na [[Wikiversity:Reports/En|zprávy]] (anglicky) z oddělených mutací.


''Pokud chcete založit novou jazykovou mutaci pro wikiverzitu'', musíte mít deset aktivních členů s chutí pracovat. Pokud máte deset členů můžete požádat na metě na [[m:Requests for new languages#Requests for Wikiversity Languages|Requests for Wikiversity Languages]] o novou jazykovou doménu. Dále je též dobré umístit svojí stránku s projektem do [[Template:Main page]].

''Také se můžete podívat do: [[Help:FAQ/En|Frequently Asked Questins]].''

== Kde se schází komunita České wikiverzity? ==
Komunita pracující na vzniku České wikiverzity zatím pouze diskutuje [http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedista:Juan_de_Vojn%C3%ADkov/ceska_wikiverzita|zde]. 

== Co je třeba ==
''Pomozte nám prosím vyvynout a přeložit do ostatních jazyků, kde vznikají projekty wikiverzity:''
*[[Wikiversity:Scope of research/En|Scope of research]] - měla by wikiverzita pracovat se všemi typy [[Wikiversity:Research/En|výzkumu]], včetně [[Wikiversity:Original research/En|original research]]? (pozor chápání výzkumu je v českém jazyce odlišné)
*[[Wikiversity_talk:Research guidelines/En|Research guidelines]] - jaké pravidla je třeba nastavit, aby se prováděl pouze kvalitní výzkum

==Ve vývoji==
*Vývoj výcejazyčného portálu wikiverzity na [[m:Talk:Www.wikiversity.org template|Meta]]
*Zúčastněte se [[m:Wikiversity/logo|hlasování o logo]] a [[:en:Wikiversity:Motto_contest|diskuze k mottu wikiverzity]]

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==Announcements==
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====prosinec 2006====
{{announce/local|1|Spuštěna [[:fr:Accueil|Francouzská wikiverzita]].}}
====listopad 2006====
{{announce|Wikimedia-logo.svg|23|Nová sada [[meta:Meta:Language proposal policy|pravidel]] (anglicky) pro žádání o nové jazykové mutace.}}
{{announce/talk|18|[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiversity/logo Na Metě podán návrh změny barevného loga (anglicky)]}}
{{announce/local|29|Začla fungovat překladatelská sekce: [[Translation|Translation department]] (anglicky)}}
====říjen 2006====
{{announce/local|16|Spuštěna [[:es:Portada|Španělská wikiverzita]].}}
====září 2006====
{{announce/beta|28| [[Wikiversity_talk:A_proposal_for_european_project|A proposal for european project]] for european wikiversities has been proposed.}}
{{announce/beta|19| [[Wikiversity:A proposal of language learning policy|A draft for a language learning policy]] for all Wikiversity projects has been proposed.}}
{{announce/beta|7| Otevřena [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiversity/logo diskuse k logu wikiverzity].}}
{{announce/beta|3| [[Wikiversity:Scope of research/En|Scope of research]]; multi-language research policy discussion started.}}
====srpen 2006====
{{announce/beta|29| [[Wikiversity:Language select/En|Language selection system]] implemented on Beta.}}
{{announce/beta|26| Babel templates available, [[Wikiversity:Request custodian action|request for yours if not]].}}
{{announce/talk|26|[[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/En|Multilingual discussions]] system proposal.}}
{{announce/beta|24| '''Spuštěna [[Main Page|&quot;Beta Wikiversity&quot;]].'''}}
{{announce/talk|23|[[m:Wikiversity/logo|Logo contest]] for Wikiversity started on meta.}}
{{announce/talk|22|Help design the [[m:Www.wikiversity.org template|www Wikiversity portal]].}}
{{announce/local|15| Spuštěna [[:en:Main Page|Anglická wikiverzita]].}}
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[[:en:Topic:Translation|Übersetzungsinstitut der englischen Wikiversity]] &amp;bull; &lt;small&gt;[[Wikiversity:Multilingualism|Multilingualismus]]&lt;/small&gt;
==Nachrichten der Teil-Gruppen==
* '''29. November 2006''' - die Unterabteilung wurde an der Beta.Wikiversity nachgebildet 
* ...

== Lerngruppen ==
Siehe [[:en:Topic:Multilingual Studies|Multilingualismus Studien]] (en.wikiversity) für eine detaillierte Liste über Lerngruppen und Inhalte innerhalb des umfangreicheren [[:en:Multilingual worksheet|Multilingualismus Kurs]]. Das ist nur ein grober Auszug:


[[:en:School:Language and Literature|Schule:Sprache und Literatur]]:
*[[:en:Topic:Foreign Language Learning|Lernen von Fremdsprachen]]
* ...

[[:en:School:Linguistics|Schule:Sprachwissenschaft]]:
*[[:en:Topic:History of Linguistics|Geschichte der Sprachwissenschaft]]
*[[:en:Topic:English Language|Englische Sprache]]
*...

[[:en:School:Media Studies|Schule:Medien-Studien]]
*[[Wikiversity the Movie|Wikiversity, der Film]]
*[[Wikiversity the Movie/multi-lingual|Wikiversity, der Film/mehrsprachig]]
*...

[[:en:School:Computer Science|Schule:Informatik]]
*[[:en:Topic:Computational linguistics]]
*[[:en:Topic:Computer-assisted Translation|computerunterstützte Übersetzung]] [Abk.: CAT]
*...

== Lernmaterialien ==
[[Wikiversity:Translator's Handbook|Handbuch für Übersetzer]].
* Einführung ''siehe [[Wikiversity:Essay Contest|Aufsatzwettbewerb]]''
* [[Topic:Languages|Sprachen]] ''diskutiert [[:Category:Languages and Language families|Sprachen und Sprachfamilien]] in detailliertem Umfang 
* [[Topic:Linguistics|Sprachwissenschaften]]
* [[Topic:Lexicography|Lexikographie]]
* [[Topic:Translation|Anhang]]

== Multilingualismus in der Wikiversity ==
[[Wikiversity:Multilingualism|Multilingualismus]] beschreibt das mehrsprachige System auf der Wikiversity Beta.

== Wikiversity Übersetzer ==
{{translators}}

[[Category:Wikiversity Translators]]

== Wikimedia Service Gemeinde ==
Die folgenden Abschnitte behandeln Inhalte bezüglich Übersetzungen und zählen [[:en:Wikiversity:Service|Übersetzungsdienste]] auf - durch und für die Wikimedia-Wikiversity [[Service community|Service Gemeinde]].


=== Meta ===
[[m:Main Page|Meta]] hat eine Fülle von Ressourcen für Übersetzer!

[[m:Multilingualism|Multilingualismus]]:
*[[m:Translators|Übersetzer]]
*[[m:Translation process|Übersetzungsprozess]]
*[[m:Interlingual coordination|interlinguale Koordination]]
*[[m:Meta:Conventions for multilingualism|Meta:Konventionen für Multilingualismus]]
*...

[[m:Category:Multilingualism|Kategorie:Multilingualismus]]
*[[m:Category:Transbabel|Kategorie Transbabel]]
*[[m:Category:Translator's Templates|Vorlagen für Übersetzer]]
*...

&lt;small&gt;Bemerkung: Wir haben die meta Vorlagen für Übersetzer angepasst und arbeiten an einer Adaptierung des [[Transbabel Multilingual Schema]] hier auf [[Wikiversity:Templates#Translation]] Siehe [[Template:Translators]].&lt;/small&gt;

=== Wikipedia ===
[[w:Main Page|Wikipedia]]
==== Artikel ====
'''[[w:Meaning (linguistics)|Bedeutungen]]:''' [[w:grammar|Grammatik]], [[w:semantics|Semantik]], [[w:syntax|Syntax]], [[w:idiom|Idiom]], [[w:word|Wort]], [[w:phrase|Redensart]], [[w:sentance|Satz]], [[w:source text|Quelltext]], [[w:source language|Quellsprache]], [[w:target language|Zielsprache]], ...

'''[[w:Language|Sprache]]:''' [[w:Natural language|natürliche Sprache]], [[w:Language family|Sprachfamilie]], [[w:Linguistic typology|sprachwissenschaftliche Typologie]], [[w:Writing systems|Schreibsysteme]], [[w:List of languages|Liste von Sprachen]], [[w:List of official languages|Liste von offiziellen Sprachen]], [[w:List of common phrases in various languages|Liste von allgemeinen Redensarten in verschiedenen Sprachen]], ...

'''[[w:Linguistics|Sprachwissenschaften]]:''' [[w:Morphology (linguistics)|Morphologie]], [[w:Etymology|Etymologie]], [[w:Corpus linguistics|Korpus Sprachwissenschaft]], [[w:Text corpus|Text Korpus]], [[w:Cognitive linguistics|Kognitive Sprachwissenschaft]], [[w:Computational linguistics|Computational linguistics]], [[w:Machine translation|Maschinenübersetzung]], [[w:Speech recognition|Spracherkennung]], [[w:Language recognition chart|Spracherkennungschart]], [[w:Part-of-speech tagging|Part-of-speech tagging]], ...

'''[[w:Translation|Übersetzung]]:''' [[w:translation dictionary|Übersetzungswörterbuch]], [[w:Translation process|Übersetzungsprozess]], [[w:Translation studies|Übersetzungsstudien]], [[w:Translation unit|Übersetzungseinheit]], [[w:Computer-assisted translation|computerunterstützte Übersetzung]] [Abk.: CAT], [[w:Machine translation|Maschinenübersetzung]], ...

==== Projekte ====
'''[[w:Wikipedia:Wikipedia Embassy|Wikipedia Botschaft]]:'''
*[[w:Wikipedia:Multilingual coordination|Wikipedia:Multilinguale Koordination]]
*[[w:Wikipedia:Wikipedians]]
*[[w:Wikipedia:Interwikimedia link]]
*[[w:Wikipedia:Interlanguage links]]
*...

'''[[w:Wikipedia:WikiProject Linguistics|Wikipedia:WikiProject Sprachwissenschaft]]:'''
*[[w:Wikipedia:WikiProject Languages|WikiProject Sprachen]]
*[[w:Wikipedia:WikiProject Language families|WikiProject Sprachfamilie]]
*[[w:Wikipedia:WikiProject Writing systems|WikiProject Schreibsystem]]
*[[w:Wikipedia:WikiProject Latin alphabet|WikiProject Lateinisches Alphabet]]
*[[w:Wikipedia:WikiProject Phonetics|WikiProject Phonetik]]
*[[w:Wikipedia:WikiProject Constructed languages|WikiProject konstruierte Sprachen]]
*[[w:Wikipedia:WikiProject Theoretical Linguistics|WikiProject Theoretische Sprachwissenschaft]]

'''[[w:Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer science|Wikipedia:WikiProject Informatik]]'''

==== Sprachen ====
Liste von Wikipedias in anderen Sprachen:

#[http://ab.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ab-Cyrl&quot;&gt;аҧсуа бысжѡа&lt;/span&gt; (Abkhazian)]
#[http://af.wikipedia.org Afrikaans]
#[http://als.wikipedia.org Alemannisch]
#[http://am.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;am&quot; dir=&quot;rtl&quot;&gt;አማርኛ&lt;/span&gt; (Amharisch)]
#[http://ar.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ar&quot; dir=&quot;rtl&quot;&gt;‫العربية‬&lt;/span&gt; (Arabisch)]
#[http://an.wikipedia.org Aragonés (Aragonesisch)]
#[http://roa-rup.wikipedia.org Armâneashti (Aromanian)]
#[http://as.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;as&quot;&gt;অসমীয়া&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;/ &lt;span lang=&quot;as-Latn&quot;&gt;Asami&lt;/span&gt; (Assamese)]
#[http://arc.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;arc&quot;&gt;ܣܘܪܬ&lt;/span&gt; (Assyrian Neo-Aramaic)]
#[http://ast.wikipedia.org Asturianu (Asturian)]
#[http://gn.wikipedia.org Avañe'ẽ (Guarani)]
#[http://av.wikipedia.org Авар (Avar)]
#[http://ay.wikipedia.org Aymar (Aymara)]
#[http://az.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;az&quot;&gt;Azərbaycan dili&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;/ &lt;span lang=&quot;az-Arab&quot; dir=&quot;rtl&quot;&gt;آذربايجان ديلی&lt;/span&gt; (Azerbaijani)]
#[http://id.wikipedia.org Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian)]
#[http://ms.wikipedia.org Bahasa Melayu (Malay)]
#[http://bm.wikipedia.org Bamanankan (Bambara)]
#[http://bn.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;bn&quot;&gt;বাংলা&lt;/span&gt; (Bengali)]
#[http://zh-min-nan.wikipedia.org Bân-lâm-gú (Southern Min)]
#[http://jv.wikipedia.org Basa Jawa (Javanesisch)]
#[http://map-bms.wikipedia.org Basa Banyumasan (Banyumasan)]
#[http://su.wikipedia.org Basa Sunda (Sundanesisch)]
#[http://ba.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ba&quot;&gt;Башҡорт&lt;/span&gt; (Bashkir)]
#[http://be.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;be&quot;&gt;Беларуская&lt;/span&gt; (Belarusian)]
#[http://bh.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;bh&quot;&gt;भोजपुरी&lt;/span&gt; (Bihari)]
#[http://mt.wikipedia.org bil-Malti (Maltese)]
#[http://bi.wikipedia.org Bislama]
#[http://bo.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;bo&quot;&gt;བོད་ཡིག&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;/ &lt;span lang=&quot;bo-Latn&quot;&gt;Bod skad&lt;/span&gt; (Tibetisch)]
#[http://bs.wikipedia.org Bosanski (Bosnisch)]
#[http://br.wikipedia.org Brezhoneg (Bretonisch)]
#[http://bug.wikipedia.org Basa Ugi (Buginese)]
#[http://bg.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;bg-Cyrl&quot;&gt;Български&lt;/span&gt; (Bulgarisch)]
#[http://ca.wikipedia.org Català (Katalanisch)]
#[http://cbk-zam.wikipedia.org Chavacano (Chavacano de Zamboanga)]
#[http://cho.wikipedia.org Cahta (Choctaw)]
#[http://ch.wikipedia.org Chamorru (Chamorro)]
#[http://cv.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;cv&quot;&gt;Чӑваш&lt;/span&gt; (Chuvash)]
#[http://cs.wikipedia.org Čeština (Tschechisch)]
#[http://ny.wikipedia.org chiChewa]
#[http://sn.wikipedia.org chiShona (Shona)]
#[http://tum.wikipedia.org chiTumbuka (Tumbuka)]
#[http://ve.wikipedia.org Chivenda (Venda)]
#[http://co.wikipedia.org Corsu (Korsisch)]
#[http://za.wikipedia.org Cuengh (Zhuang)]
#[http://cy.wikipedia.org Cymraeg (Welsh)]
#[http://da.wikipedia.org Dansk (Dänisch)]
#[http://pdc.wikipedia.org Deitsch (Pennsylvania Deutsch)]
#[http://de.wikipedia.org Deutsch]
#[http://nv.wikipedia.org Diné bizaad (Navajo)]
#[http://dv.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;dv&quot; dir=&quot;rtl&quot;&gt;ދިވެހި&lt;/span&gt; (Divehi)]
#[http://na.wikipedia.org dorerin Naoero (Nauruan)]
#[http://dz.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;dz&quot;&gt;ཇོང་ཁ&lt;/span&gt; (Dzongkha)]
#[http://lad.wikipedia.org Dzhudezmo (Ladino)]
#[http://et.wikipedia.org Eesti (Estonisch)]
#[http://el.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;el&quot;&gt;Ελληνικά&lt;/span&gt; (Griechisch)]
#[http://ang.wikipedia.org Englisc (Anglo-Sächsisch)]
#[http://en.wikipedia.org English]
#[http://es.wikipedia.org Español (Spanisxh)]
#[http://eo.wikipedia.org Esperanto]
#[http://eu.wikipedia.org Euskara (Baskisch)]
#[http://to.wikipedia.org Faka Tonga (Tongan)]
#[http://fa.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;fa&quot; dir=&quot;rtl&quot;&gt;‫فارسی‬&lt;/span&gt; (Persisch)]
#[http://fo.wikipedia.org Føroyskt (Faroese)]
#[http://fr.wikipedia.org Français (Französisch)]
#[http://frp.wikipedia.org Franco-provençal (Arpitan)]
#[http://fy.wikipedia.org Frysk (West Frisian)]
#[http://ff.wikipedia.org Fulfulde (Peul)]
#[http://fur.wikipedia.org Furlan (Friulian)]
#[http://ga.wikipedia.org Gaeilge (Irisch)]
#[http://gv.wikipedia.org Gaelg (Manx)]
#[http://sm.wikipedia.org Gagana Samoa (Samoan)]
#[http://gd.wikipedia.org Gàidhlig (Scots Gaelic)]
#[http://gl.wikipedia.org Galego (Galician)]
#[http://gu.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;gu&quot;&gt;ગુજરાતી&lt;/span&gt; (Gujarati)]
#[http://got.wikipedia.org Gutisk (Gothisch)]
#[http://ko.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ko&quot;&gt;한국어&lt;/span&gt; (Koreanisch)]
#[http://ha.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ha&quot; dir=&quot;rtl&quot;&gt;هَوُسَ&lt;/span&gt; (Hausa)]
#[http://haw.wikipedia.org Hawai`i (Hawaiianisch)]
#[http://hy.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;hy&quot;&gt;Հայերեն&lt;/span&gt; (Armenian)]
#[http://hi.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;hi&quot;&gt;हिन्दी&lt;/span&gt; (Hindi)]
#[http://ho.wikipedia.org Hiri Motu]
#[http://hr.wikipedia.org Hrvatski (Kroatisch)]
#[http://io.wikipedia.org Ido]
#[http://ilo.wikipedia.org Ilokano]
#[http://ig.wikipedia.org Igbo]
#[http://ia.wikipedia.org Interlingua]
#[http://ie.wikipedia.org Interlingue (ex Occidental)]
#[http://iu.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;iu&quot;&gt;ᐃᓄᒃᑎᑐᑦ&lt;/span&gt; (Inuktitut)]
#[http://ik.wikipedia.org Iñupiak (Inupiak)]
#[http://os.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;os&quot;&gt;Иронау&lt;/span&gt; (Ossetian)]
#[http://xh.wikipedia.org isiXhosa (Xhosa)]
#[http://zu.wikipedia.org isiZulu (Zulu)]
#[http://is.wikipedia.org Íslenska (Isländisch)]
#[http://it.wikipedia.org Italiano (Italienisch)]
#[http://he.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;he&quot; dir=&quot;rtl&quot;&gt;‫עברית‬&lt;/span&gt; (Hebräisch)]
#[http://mh.wikipedia.org Kajin Majel (Marshallese)]
#[http://kl.wikipedia.org Kalaallisut (Greenlandic)]
#[http://xal.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;xal&quot;&gt;Хальмг&lt;/span&gt; (Kalmyk)]
#[http://kn.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;kn&quot;&gt;ಕನ್ನಡ&lt;/span&gt; (Kannada)]
#[http://kr.wikipedia.org Kanuri]
#[http://pam.wikipedia.org Kapampangan]
#[http://ka.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ka&quot;&gt;ქართული&lt;/span&gt; (Georgian)]
#[http://ks.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ks&quot;&gt;कश्मीरी&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;/ &lt;span lang=&quot;ks-Arab&quot; dir=&quot;rtl&quot;&gt;كشميري&lt;/span&gt; (Kashmiri)]
#[http://csb.wikipedia.org Kaszëbsczi (Kashubian)]
#[http://kk.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;kk&quot;&gt;Қазақша&lt;/span&gt; (Kazakh)]
#[http://kw.wikipedia.org Kernewek&amp;nbsp;/ Karnuack (Cornish)]
#[http://kg.wikipedia.org Kikongo (Kongo)]
#[http://ki.wikipedia.org Kikuyu]
#[http://rw.wikipedia.org Kinyarwandi (Rwandi)]
#[http://ky.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ky-Latn&quot;&gt;Kırgızca&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;/ &lt;span lang=&quot;ky-Cyrl&quot;&gt;Кыргызча&lt;/span&gt; (Kyrgyz)]
#[http://rn.wikipedia.org Kirundi]
#[http://sw.wikipedia.org Kiswahili (Swahili)]
#[http://km.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;km&quot;&gt;ភាសាខ្មែរ&lt;/span&gt; (Khmer)]
#[http://kv.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;kv&quot;&gt;Коми&lt;/span&gt; (Komi)]
#[http://ht.wikipedia.org Kreyol ayisyen (Haitian)]
#[http://kj.wikipedia.org Kuanyama]
#[http://ku.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ku&quot;&gt;Kurdî&amp;nbsp;/ &lt;span lang=&quot;ku-Arab&quot; dir=&quot;rtl&quot;&gt;كوردی&lt;/span&gt; (Kurdisch)]
#[http://ksh.wikipedia.org Ripoarisch (Ripuarian)]
#[http://lo.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;lo&quot;&gt;ພາສາລາວ&lt;/span&gt; (Laotian)]
#[http://la.wikipedia.org Latina (Lateinisch)]
#[http://lv.wikipedia.org Latviešu (Latvian)]
#[http://lb.wikipedia.org Lëtzebuergesch (Luxembourgish)]
#[http://lt.wikipedia.org Lietuvių (Lithuanian)]
#[http://lij.wikipedia.org Líguru (Ligurian)]
#[http://li.wikipedia.org Limburgs (Limburgish)]
#[http://ln.wikipedia.org Lingála]
#[http://jbo.wikipedia.org Lojban]
#[http://lg.wikipedia.org Luganda]
#[http://lmo.wikipedia.org Lumbaart (Lombard)]
#[http://hu.wikipedia.org Magyar (Ungarisch)]
#[http://mk.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;mk&quot;&gt;Македонски&lt;/span&gt; (Makedonisch)]
#[http://mg.wikipedia.org Malagasy]
#[http://ml.wikipedia.org &lt;span lang=&quot;ml&quot;&gt;മലയാളം&lt;/span&gt; (Malayalam)]
#[http://mi.wikipedia.org Māori]
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== Proposal - done? ==

I'd like to propose this once again for formal consideration (to the board via the [[Special projects committee]], per due process). But before I do so, is there anything anyone wants to bring up about the proposal as it stands? Does it satisfy your needs? Do you think it's workable? Would you want to contribute to it? Is there anything that you'd like to see which isn't there? It would be good to also read other relevant pages, such as [[Wikiversity/Scope]] and [[Wikiversity/What Wikiversity is not]], in order to give your overall ideas. They would be most appreciated. [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] [[User talk:Cormaggio|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;small&gt;@&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;]] 22:30, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

== Impending Policy Paradoxum ==

Impending Policy Paradox (hithero represented as &lt;b&gt;IPP&lt;/b&gt;) is illustrated here as of June.   http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Staff_lounge#Request_for_comments_about_a_deletion

Briefly
* Wikiversity can have no classes  (NO CLASSES !!)
* Wikibooks can have no books not used by a class as textbook  (ONLY TEXTBOOKS !!)
* Wikiversity learning trail or study group matures a learning book (NOT A CLASS !!!)
* Puritans following policy classify collectivised, verified, proofed, and republished group notes as textbook and transwiki to Wikibooks (COOKIE CUTTER policy, NO DUPE ALLOWED !!)
* Puritans following policy at Wikibooks delete Wikiversity Textbook because no class can be found using it.
* Wikiversity participant group is periodically disrupted by silly policies mandated in early proposal phase years ago

QED, IPSO FACTORIUM or something --&gt;Heard it here first folks.  &quot;I've been telling em for years.&quot; op. cit. Independence day kamikazium.  [[user:lazyquasar]]

::IPP2

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Staff_lounge#Help_with_setting_up_a_.22wikimanual.22

* Briefly
* New book on Gardening
* There is already one on Gardening
* NO DUPE!!
* 50/50 who survives

meanwhile at wikiversity

* Some working notes are evolving towards BOOKS!
* Some are named manuals while others are found by the BOOK MONITORS to be TEXTBOOKS!
* Transwiki to Wikibooks
* 50/50 survival if previous TEXTBOOK placed on local shelves
* New TEXTBOOK wins
* Delete previously existing Wikibook
* No course uses new book now!
* Delete new TEXTBOOK

No TEXTBOOK on this subject at either Wikibooks or Wikiversity.

Hurrah! Twice the savings in Wikimedia Foundation hard drive space.

* Previously &lt;b&gt;erring do&lt;/b&gt; groups (NOT A CLASSES!) begin modifying draft &lt;b&gt;manuals&lt;/b&gt; and backing them up profusely on student portable hard drives.

* Ipso factus or QED or something.  
* &quot;I wouda neir thought it Captain! The damn TRANSWIKI scattered his bytes all over the non universe! [McCoy}] Star Trekium circa terra early seventerius. [[user:lazyquasar]]

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::&quot;Wikiversity can have no classes (NO CLASSES !!)&quot;

::I think that the intention of the Board was to say that Wikiversity should not try to organize itself around a set of conventional courses. The key issue is this: what is a wiki and how can people use a wiki for learning? It makes little sense to try to run conventional courses in a wiki user environment. The modified project proposal shifts the emphasis of Wikiversity from courses to &quot;learning projects&quot;, which means learning activities that make sense for users of a wiki. If you want to try to run a traditional course within Wikiversity or invent some sort of non-traditional course, you are free to do so. Just keep in mind that the limitations of the wiki interface. One possible type of Wikiversity learning project would be oriented around the development of a Wikibook.  Other learning projects could point students to Wikibooks or even involve discussion of a Wikibook. Wikiversity and Wikibooks should get along just fine. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSurf]] 04:28, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

== I'm still trying to understand this proposal ==

I'm not sure I understand the purpose for Wikiversity's existence.

One tool which has been useful in many applications has been to describe what the proposal is supposed to do as a problem/solution. It seems to me the problem which Wikiversity proposes to solve is &quot;Provide unstructured, unconventional self-paced and self-directed learning/teaching opportunities.&quot; The solution is a wiki which may or may not produce texts, will engage in original research (field of scientific endeavour undescribed), and attempt to improve/expand other Wikimedia projects. In addition, it will host its products and do this without infringing on the missions of other Wikimedia projects.

I, personally, do not see a pressing need to provide such opportunities, primarily due to the unstructured/unconventional/self-directed elements. But I'm sure there must be such a need, else the proposal would not have been made.

On the other hand, I do not see the proposed solution as viable. I opposed the original proposal because it did not determine if it were a) Teaching courses b) Writing curriculum c) Publishing research. The current proposal appears to have similar issues, being unsure if it will a) organize opportunities for people to write collaboratively on subjects they do not know about b) engaging in and writing about research into something or c) organizing people to work on Wikibooks/Wikisource/Wikipedia. All this while, according to its scope, not producing source documents (Wikisource) or text books/curricula (Wikibooks) or encyclopedic articles (Wikipedia).

Three of the four primary &quot;What Wikiversity is&quot; statements could be fulfilled on Meta now (''A network of communities to create and use these resources'', ''A group effort to learn'', and ''A collaboration to improve other projects''.) In fact, it is proven by the Wikiversity proposal itself. Any average bulletin board site would serve as well, or better. The fourth is provided by Wikibooks (''A repository of free, multilingual educational resources.'')

But perhaps my lack of understanding is simply that I don't understand the purpose for Wikiversity. - [http://journowiki.org/index.php/User:Amgine Amgine] / &lt;sup&gt;[http://journowiki.org/index.php/User_talk:Amgine talk] [[User talk:Amgine|meta]]&lt;/sup&gt; 19:17, 19 June 2006 (UTC)


:Thanks for this, Amgine - this is useful, and I appreciate both your comments and your confusion :-)

:I suppose I'll start by saying that I disagree that the proposed goals of Wikiversity can be realised within other projects. Firstly, with Wikibooks, while there will be some overlap in content, I think the major difference will be in how it is collated and presented. Wikibooks aims to produce textbooks, Wikiversity aims to produce educational materials. Textbooks is really a subset of educational materials, so some materials relevant to Wikiversity will be hosted on Wikibooks. But Wikibooks does not and will not have materials that can be used &quot;off the shelf&quot; for particular educational purposes (such as a class). Wikibooks is for doing further reading and research (as is Wikipedia, in its own way), but Wikiversity will provide those types of materials in that format. In other words, teachers will be able to come to Wikiversity, find a fill-the-gap listening activity, print/download it, and use it in their class that afternoon. Of course, this is not to say that Wikibooks cannot incorporate such content in its textbooks (and I believe it is doing so already), but there is a fundamental difference in how the material is formatted. You could say that an encyclopedia is a subset of a book, and so why have Wikipedia at all; the difference is in formatting. However, this relationship (between Wikiversity and Wikibooks) is a complex one, and I imagine that we will have to figure out ways of sharing content between the two projects as we develop. We will share some content, but each project will direct that content towards the focus of that project, ie a collection of lesson plans with activities and support materials, or a textbook containing some learning activities.

:I'm not sure how the other goals of Wikiversity could be realised on Meta. Meta is for planning, discussing and organising issues/projects etc of interest to the Wikimedia community. If there happened to spring up a community of people who wanted to work on media literacy (for example), I would bet that they would be asked to leave Meta and set up their own project on Wikia, or wherever. Wikiversity seeks to offer people that space - to learn collaboratively on a subject of shared interest. This happens to some extent on all other wikis, but the goal of wikiversity is explicitly to allow for this kind of learning. This will encourage the participants to both critically evaluate the content that's there already, and to generate new content based on their learning. The linking of Wikiversity with other projects that seems to have confused you, is that this learning will not just generate new content on Wikiversity, but also on other Wikimedia projects (such as learning academic writing skills for Wikipedia, or Wikibooks, or recording sound files for Commons - again, just two pretty random examples).

:On the scope of research: it is difficult (if not absurd) to specify exactly what kind of research Wikiversity participants will carry out, but I see this part of the scope to be instrumental to its goal of providing an educational platform for its participants, rather than a repository of materials. What research people will do will have to be determined by the nature of their studies and/or interests. Obviously, not everyone is ''obliged'' to do research (as some people seem to have thought in the past), but they will be ''allowed'' to do so on Wikiversity. This, above anything else, is why Wikiversity's goals cannot be fulfilled by any other Wikimedia project. Granted, Wikinews allows original research, but I think you'll appreciate that that's different from doing a review of, say, the representation of women in West African literature, or a survey of the religious views of teenage LiveJournal users. Wikinews may be able to benefit from this work (and I hope it does) but it does not exist to foster such work.

:The (new) a, b and c you outline above are deliberately vague, but, I think, substantially clearer than you make out. For one, it is not the intention of Wikiversity to get people to write about things they know nothing about - it is about providing materials so that they can find out more about that subject. Like all educational work, there will be activities linked with this material - it just remains to be seen what kinds of activities contributors to Wikiversity will deem most appropriate to provide. Of course they will be structured in some way, but, like with research, it seems inappropriate to dictate at this stage ''how'' people will structure such activities. However, we are recommending that people recognise that this is a wiki, and that activities should be geared toward this medium - in other words, find ways to structure learning activities around the wiki format, based on the materials that Wikiversity will host.

:I hope this addresses in some way your concerns (which I would suspect are shared by many people who haven't followed this proposal over the last six months or so). Please - yourself, or anyone else reading this - add further concerns or clarifications, so that we can make this proposal as robust as possible. Thanks. [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] [[User talk:Cormaggio|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;small&gt;@&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;]] 15:41, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

:: Much to reply to, so I will attempt to be brief.

::* ''But Wikibooks does not and will not have materials that can be used &quot;off the shelf&quot; for particular educational purposes (such as a class).''
::: This may currently be the case, but there is no prevention from curricular materials being developed. Wikibooks can certainly host didactic.

::* Meta is a network of communities, the communities which make up the Wikimedia Foundation projects. It could clearly be used to organize collaboration, learning opportunities, and to host communications regarding these. Each project actively encourages critical evaluation of the materials on it, and development of the content; that's the purpose of the discussion/talk pages, and the wiki in general.

::* Scope of research must be defined. The project cannot be organized if it does not know what it will do. A newspaper, as an example, does a range of research into current events and - occasionally - specific phenomenon or persons. It uses primarily qualitative methodologies, such as ethnographic survey or focused interview, supported by reviews of published literature. It has ethical and legal oversight bodies, and defined structures for funding research endeavors. Research Universities determine the same things: what will be researched, how it will be researched, what oversight mechanisms will be maintained, and how it will be supported as well as dissemination of the results. What is the purpose of the research? What kind of research will be supported? What will be done with the results of any research?

::* I would strongly suggest the precise opposite of being vague. A vague proposal will likely earn a vague &quot;No&quot;. And that will cause unnecessary friction. Give a detailed proposal, say what you want to do, and people can say &quot;Yes, because...&quot; or &quot;No, because...&quot;, and then you can work toward a compromise agreement which will be acceptable to all. - [http://journowiki.org/index.php/User:Amgine Amgine] / &lt;sup&gt;[http://journowiki.org/index.php/User_talk:Amgine talk] [[User talk:Amgine|meta]]&lt;/sup&gt; 01:46, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
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Wikiversity as a solution to a problem.&lt;BR&gt;
I think of wiki technology as a tool and Wikiversity as an exploration of the power of that tool to support an online learning community. If I am forced to view Wikiversity as a solution for a problem, then that problem is that conventional education is expensive and inefficient. I suppose some people do not see this as a problem in need of a solution, particularly people who view conventional education as the answer to all our education needs. 

Nobody knows if a wiki devoted to learning can be a success and function as a useful system for online learning. Wiki is new technology. Some people are pessimistic about the power of wiki, other people are optimistic. Some people thrive on unconventional self-paced and self-directed learning and seek it out. Other people cannot function in an unconventional learning environment and have no interest in exploring new ways of providing one to students. Some people distrust anything that is unconventional, some people have claimed that Wikiversity “competes” with other Wikimedia projects and others do not want free educational opportunities that will compete with for-profit education. The question for the Wikimedia foundation is if the optimists can dominate over the pessimists, if those who are interested in this experiment can dominate over those who either do not see the point or who actively oppose it.

“I, personally, do not see a pressing need to provide such opportunities….. I do not see the proposed solution as viable”&lt;BR&gt;
Some members of the Wikimedia community look at the future possibilities for what Wikiversity will accomplish and suspect that a specifically education-oriented project can contribute to the goal of providing free access to the sum of all human knowledge. None of us has a crystal ball. It is very hard to predict the dynamics of a wiki community….how do we know if a particular wiki project will thrive and be a success or fail to accomplish its goals? How do we really know unless we try?

a wiki which may or may not produce texts&lt;BR&gt;
The production of textbooks by Wikiversity participants is not a major issue. Some Wikiversity participants will engage in Wikiversity-based learning projects that contribute to the development of textbooks at Wikibooks. There is a natural synergy between the two projects. Making textbooks is not a major concern for Wikiversity.

original research (field of scientific endeavour undescribed)&lt;BR&gt;
Original research has not been advocated as a major component of Wikiversity. A few people have suggested that Wikiversity need not exclude original research. The one specific area of research that has been suggested is research that concerns the mechanics of wiki communities. 

Some people feel that education and research are somehow in conflict. Others feel that original research should be heavily integrated into all aspects of a university education. The current Wikiversity proposal calls for the Wikiversity community to discover for itself what the role of research should be in Wikiversity.

“organize opportunities for people to write collaboratively on subjects they do not know about”&lt;BR&gt;
I think that allowing Wikiversity participants to write collaboratively on subjects they do not know about is going to be the heart of Wikiversity. If Wikiversity participants express their interests and their ignorance, this will create opportunities for others in the community to help foster those interests and point towards ways of overcoming the ignorance.

“engaging in and writing about research into something”&lt;BR&gt;
I think that opportunities for active learning is what will attract the key participants to Wikiversity…..these will be the people who form collaborative learning communities and create Wikiversity content. 

“organizing people to work on Wikibooks/Wikisource/Wikipedia. All this while, according to its scope, not producing source documents (Wikisource) or text books/curricula (Wikibooks) or encyclopedic articles (Wikipedia).”&lt;BR&gt;
Wikiversity will promote high standards of scholarship and Wikiversity participants will be able to apply their scholarship skills to the needs of other Wikimedia projects. It will be a useful service for the Wikimedia community if people can go to Wikiversity and learn how to find and verify sources, critically evaluate references and add citations to Wikipedia articles and Wikibooks textbook modules. Wikiversity can function as a central collection point for sources that can be used by other Wikimedia projects.  Wikiversity will not have the mission of creating Wikipedia articles or textbooks, yet Wikiversity participants will often work to help other Wikimedia projects.

Other existing Wikimedia projects can do anything that Wikiversity could do&lt;BR&gt;
I agree. There could just be one wiki that does everything. However, some members of the community find it necessary to define restricted missions for each wiki and to kick out anyone who tries to do anything that does not fit into that narrowly defined mission. The Wikimedia system has evolved to be one in which specialized wiki sister projects are created. In the past, I tried to argue that such fragmentation is silly, but I have come to accept the reality of the need for setting up specialized wiki projects. In the end, this will be an advantage for Wikiversity. Being a separate wiki, it will be possible to adopt new policy (some original research allowed), have different user privileges (all registered users able to do page protects) and be more welcoming to contributions from people with education and research expertise. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSurf]] 19:22, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

===''Response to Amgine''===

:::&quot;Meta is a network of communities..&quot; - yes, this is a fair point, but Meta is solely dedicated to the development of Wikimedia projects. Meta ''could'' be used for the collaborative development of Wikimedia projects, but it makes more sense to include this as part of a more general Wikiversity plan. Wikiversity is not being set up as solely a service provider for Wikimedia, but we envisaged that encouraging this would be a good way of building a community there, and keeping Wikiversity relevant to the wider community. Furthermore, Wikimedia-focused learning groups could benefit from the existence of others which are non Wikimedia-focused - for example, if a MediaWiki learning group were to develop, it would benefit from and cross-pollinate with other groups devoted to Open Source software, Metadata/Semantic wiki, and other stuff that's out of my league. More within my range (and yours) would be groups on journalism skills, finding sources, creating media (music, film etc), graphic design - all of which I would personally like to see developing, and would like to help facilitate. If all this were to happen in Meta - well, i just can't personally see it being managed (or, in many cases, permitted).

:::: As an admin on Meta, I can both see it existing/permitted and being managed. It would require at least one member of the Wikiversity team being an admin, of course. - [http://journowiki.org/index.php/User:Amgine Amgine] / &lt;sup&gt;[http://journowiki.org/index.php/User_talk:Amgine talk] [[User talk:Amgine|meta]]&lt;/sup&gt; 19:00, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

:::&quot;Scope of research must be defined.&quot; I absolutely agree. People who are doing research solely for their studies in Wikiversity will need to be very careful about how they go about justifying their study to participants, and I would especially like there to develop resources and at least one learning community devoted to the ethical, methodological (etc) dimensions to doing research. In many cases, I would imagine that people will be doing research based on their brick-and-mortar institutional guidelines, and simply using Wikiversity as a collaborative space within which to work, and discuss their work. If a research project comes out of a learning task in another community/subject, I would hope that these people join in with the researchers' community to discuss ethics, methodology, data analysis, validity etc. I'd also like to point out that I don't personally see the research in Wikiversity as being 'authorised' (it is not an accredited institution) - but I would like to develop a process of peer review of the process - as well as the writing (which John has been already pursuing in the academia wikia).

:::: In the research universities I have worked with there are processes to review student and faculty research, and usually also the technical or contract research as well. These processes are in place because there have been cases where unethical and illegal research programmes have developed in the past, and because people who are interested in *doing* research are not necessarily interested in knowing or judging the ethics or efficacy of their research program. Even with these in place we regularly, as in several times annually, are approached by students, researchers, governmental and non-governmental organizations to do research which could not possibly gain approval of ethics board or human subjects review (our area of endeavour is in health.)

:::: Claiming that your status is &quot;unaccredited&quot; does not free you from the ethical requirement for oversight of the research actions of your participants. It also would not release you from the liability you accrue by organizing those participants. - [http://journowiki.org/index.php/User:Amgine Amgine] / &lt;sup&gt;[http://journowiki.org/index.php/User_talk:Amgine talk] [[User talk:Amgine|meta]]&lt;/sup&gt; 19:00, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

:::&quot;I would strongly suggest the precise opposite of being vague&quot; - yes, I agree with this. What I mean by being as vague as we are about the way that people will work on Wikiversity is because it is a fundamental wiki fallacy to tell people how to work or, indeed, learn. Instead, we can only work to promote good practice, and an atmosphere of civility and open-mindedness. We will be able to host materials - but the learning aspect of wikiversity remains to be proven. This can only be done or undone by the contributors themselves in the process itself. You are right that a &quot;vague no&quot; is a possible outcome - this is what we got from the board last November - however, the world of wikis and education (and other online collaborative learning) continues to expand exponentially - just you wait and see at Wikimania :-).

:::Finally, on Wikibooks and Wikiversity, I think that there will be some overlapping of content, and that this will have to be worked out - but their projects' missions should make this clear. Wikibooks is for textbooks - Wikiversity is for learning materials and using those materials to facilitate learning. So, while Wikibooks will have a textbook about, say, statistics, and another one on &quot;How to use 'R'&quot;, Wikiversity will have exercises and lesson plans - geared at different levels, and class-types - about performing analyses in R (and/or other stats packages), and discussing the findings and their implications. Wikiversity should also have sample datasets with which to work (and which would be too messy to incorporate into a textbook) and link to further datasets in Wikisource (which seems slightly ambiguous on this about what it includes and excludes). Overall, Wikibooks ''could'' be merged with Wikiversity (with Wikibooks being subsumed within Wikiversity), but there would still need to be separate formatting of content for specific purposes. Also, as John said, creating Wikiversity as a specific place for people to find and provide an education should encourage people (particularly educators) to contribute where they would not have done so in another Wikimedia space. There is simply no space within Wikimedia to encompass all of what Wikiversity aims to be - instead, I think that by creating Wikiversity like this, we are creating a meta-space for all the projects to feed into and benefit from, as well as pushing the Foundation to fully achieve its goal of &quot;a world in which every single person is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge&quot;. I think Wikiversity helps to really bring this vision together - and I hope it will in actuality. [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] [[User talk:Cormaggio|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;small&gt;@&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;]] 13:49, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

:::: Textbooks at the non-collegiate level almost exclusively also include a Curriculum Guide, or similar, designed to support an instructor who will be teaching the material. Many intro or survey textbooks at the college level also have such. This would obviate the dismissal of Wikibooks as the proper repository for curriculum.

:::: With didactic material on Wikibooks, the lab source materials could clearly be hosted on Wikisource in those few cases where such might be required which would not be hosted on Commons or Wikibooks.

:::: What is left over from the requirements of Wikiversity is the location for discussion and organization of learning groups, which I suggested above could be managed on Meta. However, the assumptions in this discussion are that Wikiversity would support active learning groups, or classes, or whatever euphemism you wish to use. This strongly suggests the use of a bulletin board system or an online teaching software such as Moodle as a much more appropriate tool than Mediawiki.

:::: But this seems to return to the problem that the Board has rejected the idea of teaching courses. &lt;shrug&gt; Either I am still unclear as to the mission of Wikiversity, or this is really several separate projects being rolled together in hopes of getting some which have been rejected passed by mixing them with currently not-well-thought-out implementations of other ideas. by my understanding. - [http://journowiki.org/index.php/User:Amgine Amgine] / &lt;sup&gt;[http://journowiki.org/index.php/User_talk:Amgine talk] [[User talk:Amgine|meta]]&lt;/sup&gt; 19:00, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

:::::I take many of your points, but I just can't agree with your overall argument. Firstly, how could Meta support learning groups on all subjects at all levels, without getting very confusing? Creating a Wikiversity namespace, for example, wouldn't help. Meta should be kept for its purpose - as a discussion and planning site for Wikimedia projects. Wikiversity's scope goes far beyond this - surely you can appreciate that?

:::::On research, I didn't mean to suggest that by being unaccredited we are absolving ourselves from taking responsibility for ethics. Absolutely not. That's why I'm suggesting (no, expecting) to develop rigorous guidelines around research, as well as a group devoted to reviewing the process as well as the product of the particular research project. In any case, I don't see this as especially problematic - I'm not sure how many people will be undertaking human-subject research that is not a part of their brick-and-mortar institutions (which would, presumably, be their ultimate reference and liability), and those who are should be working closely with others to ensure that they are not doing anything which could damage anyone's mental health, job prospects etc. It would be entirely unethical to proceed in any other way. I'd also, obviously, want to make it clear on pages where we are encouraging people to do further work to read carefully our page on ethical guidelines and to check regularly with our group on doing research (and the Wikiversity mailing list). I wonder if, by saying that we cannot specify how research is done, I have given the wrong impression - what I meant was that we cannot say, in this proposal, what ''kind'' of research will be done. Does that possibly clear that up?

:::::But returning to what I don't agree with your overall argument - you are essentially arguing that most, if not all, of Wikiversity's work can be done on other Wikimedia projects. I obviously don't agree with this, but even if I did, it would entail further spreading out the work from how it is envisaged. Your proposal says (something like): &quot;Host (didactic) educational material on Wikibooks, then direct participants to Meta to take part in and organise learning activities.&quot; The current Wikiversity proposal says: &quot;Host educational material and learning groups on Wikiversity, and direct participants to other projects (ie Wikibooks, Wikipedia) for further reading (and possibly work).&quot; An alternative would be: &quot;Expand Wikibooks' scope to include what is currently proposed for Wikiversity (and probably rebrand as &quot;Wikiversity&quot;).&quot; I'm not particularly averse to that alternative possibility, but I think it would have 'branding' issues (ie we wouldn't attract as many educators if it stayed as Wikibooks, or writers if it changed to Wikiversity), and would confuse the long clarification process about [[b:Wikibooks:What is Wikibooks|what exactly Wikibooks is]]. 

:::::I don't know exactly what you mean about rolling together projects, some of which have already been rejected - if you mean the &quot;exclude online courses&quot; dictum, I would just say that this was never properly clarified (despite requests), so I've never taken it as an out-and-out rejection. But finally, I want to know what you mean by &quot;not-well-thought-out implementations of other ideas&quot; - what is not well thought out at the moment? I should be able to clarify. [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] [[User talk:Cormaggio|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;small&gt;@&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;]] 09:52, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

:::: The primary elements of the proposed project appear to me to be as follows:
::::* Learning curricula (which, in my opinion as expressed above are '''clearly''' already a part of Wikibooks's scope and mission.)
::::* Original research (which, in my opinion expressed above is not well thought out as yet, and would likely require some years of development before it could be implemented.)
::::*: Some elements I'm not clear on:
::::** Research approval process (Grant, ethics, legal, oversight; note there does not appear to be a statement of purpose either.)
::::** Research oversight process (review, progress)
::::** Dissemination goals, processes
::::* Classes (which, in my opinion, have not been well thought out as yet, possibly because the board has opposed online classes and current software is not particularly suited to the purpose.)
::::*: Some elements I'm not clear on:
::::** Organization (topic, leadership)
::::** Teaching/learning goal development
::::** Support requirements (primarily software)
::::** Assessment
:::: Obviously these elements overlap and are used inter-connectively, yet they are the substantive elements of the proposed project. A side item which is annoying me, yet which may undergird my inability to understand this as a separate project, is the lack of measurable items. Generally in a proposal you need a goal, which is attainable, and which is measurable (never mind the mission of Wikipedia! &lt;grin&gt;) - [http://journowiki.org/index.php/User:Amgine Amgine] / &lt;sup&gt;[http://journowiki.org/index.php/User_talk:Amgine talk] [[User talk:Amgine|meta]]&lt;/sup&gt; 14:21, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

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*It is true that many people originally imagined that Wikibooks would be able to contain Wikiversity and make room for a full range of non-textbook curriculum items. However, it was decided a year ago at the highest level that Wikiversity would not exist within Wikibooks. Some people will probably move back and forth between Wikibooks and Wikiversity developing textbooks at Wikibooks and other learning aids at Wikiversity. Yes, it could have all been done in Wikibooks but the community decided to make Wikibooks just textbooks. It is only a very narrow view of convention education which imagines a complete curriculum can exist inside textbooks. Wikiversity rejects that narrow view of education. I guess there are some people who will never want to move beyond what Wikibooks offers. That does not mean that there is no need for Wikiversity.
*Original research. The meta wiki already has a project that attempts to provide support and coordination for people who are studying wiki communities. It has been suggested that Wikiversity could be open to people who are interested in such research efforts. There is no need for &quot;years of development&quot; before Wikiversity could open its arms and support such research activities.
*&quot;Research approval process (Grant, ethics, legal, oversight; note there does not appear to be a statement of purpose either.)....Research oversight process (review, progress)....Dissemination goals, processes.&quot; &lt;-- If any of these are needed at Wikiversity the community will have to develop them. These details do not need to be worked out at this time. So far, it has only been suggested that Wikiversity be open to research. If the community cannot find a way to make it work, then it will not happen. 
* Classes. There will always be people who come to Wikiversity with the idea of conducting conventional classes in wiki format. Conventional courses are not a good fit to the wiki environment. The Board correctly directed the community to develop a different model for online learning. This has been done and is a key part of the modified Wikiversity proposal. If people can still read the modified Wikiversity and not understand this, then we need to make some changes to the proposal.
*&quot;Some elements I'm not clear on: Organization (topic, leadership), Teaching/learning goal development, Support requirements (primarily software), Assessment&quot; &lt;-- The Wikiversity learning model that was requested by the Board and is described in the modified proposal has two parts. The first part centers on collecting and developing &quot;learning materials&quot; that can be used by learners anywhere. Students and teachers will be able to download learning resources from Wikiversity and use them outside of Wikiversity. The second part of the Wikiversity learning model is centered on Wikiversity participants as active learners. The learners (Wikiversity participants) will select topics and leaders and otherwise organize in the normal wiki way. Wikiversity participants will explore their personal interests through the editing of Wikiversity pages that are organized as &quot;learning projects&quot;. When multiple members of the community have over-lapping personal learning goals, those areas of over-lap will become the special emphasis of the community. The Wikiversity proposal has been set up so as not to require any new software. I'm not sure what &quot;Assessment&quot; refers to. Project assessment? Learning assessment?
*&quot;Generally in a proposal you need a goal, which is attainable, and which is measurable&quot; &lt;-- In my view, Wikiversity is an experiment. Wikiversity participants will explore to what extent the wiki user interface can support communities of online learners. The success of the project will be measured in the same way you can measure any wiki. Are there users (page hits)? Are there people creating and editing pages?&lt;BR&gt;--[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSurf]] 17:41, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

==== Reply to JWSurf ====

* Wikibooks: Please point out to me where the community determined that textbook curricula would be excluded from Wikibooks; I'm unable to find this discussion.

* Original research: Have you ever examined the infrastructure of a research university which supports its research? It is possible a group of individuals with considerable familiarity with such an infrastructure and a lot of motivation could establish processes within a year or so. My estimation is based on a pragmatic approach. Being the subject of research conducted through other schools which have this type of infrastructure is a completely different proposal; I would have no objection to research being overseen by other schools.

* Research approval, etc.: The conduct of research is a major undertaking. It would fundamentally alter the proposal either to include it, or to exclude it. If it is going to be an element of the proposed project it will need to be developed *before* it is given go-ahead, rather than patched together after harm is done. There's no need to rush something which has such a high risk of liability.

* Your description of the two elements is, well, in my opinion idealistic. Half of the proposal, in your statement, is Wikibooks materials. The second half is an unformed, undescribed process whereby people will magically form into learning groups. This has not been my experience in real life; home-schoolers and self-study tends to be predominately solo efforts, most successfully when the student has a textbook with a workbook or lab guide with both practice and scheduled examinations. Assessment refers to learning assessment: has the student learned some or much of the body of knowledge regarding the chosen topic?

* Wikiversity is an experiment: This is not a good reason to create a project. If your project is to enable learners, you should be able to measure whether or not you are enabling learning. If your project is to provide encyclopedic articles, you measure that by how many encyclopedic articles you have created. This is a difference between an information project, and a learning project, as Anthere so eloquently pointed out. - [http://journowiki.org/index.php/User:Amgine Amgine] / &lt;sup&gt;[http://journowiki.org/index.php/User_talk:Amgine talk] [[User talk:Amgine|meta]]&lt;/sup&gt; 05:05, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

*&quot;There's no need to rush something which has such a high risk of liability.&quot; &lt;-- The Wikiversity proposal just says that Wikiversity is not closing the door on having some original research. Anything that introduces a risk of liability to the Foundation will have to be carefully evaluated. These are issues that the Wikiversity community will have to deal with if it decides to allow original research. That is all for the future. There are types of original research that are very low risk. If Wikiversity ever adopts a policy that allows original research, it will start with something simple like collecting and evaluating data on wikis. Any such research will have to respect the privacy policies of the wikis that are studied. Another issue that would arise is clearly marking Wikiversity content that is original research. It might be that the names of all Wikiversity pages that concern original research will start with &quot;Original Research:&quot;. Another issue that Wikiversity might eventually involve itself with is formal peer review of original research. I think it will be possible to work towards a system of formal peer review in the wiki environment ([http://academia.wikia.com/wiki/Wiki_Journal example]). However, it is not clear that the Wikiversity community will decide to make room for ANY original research. These are all issues to be decided in the future. Original research is not a major component of the Wikiversity proposal.

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Reply to Amgine:&lt;BR&gt;
&quot;Please point out to me where the community determined that textbook curricula would be excluded from Wikibooks&quot; &lt;-- I'm sorry if something I wrote suggests to you that I think the community determined that textbook curricula would be excluded from Wikibooks. I agree with you that a good textbook can include a guide for how to use the textbook and how to integrate the use of additional learning materials with use of the textbook. Wikiversity will not compete with that (or any other) aspect of Wikibooks. Wikiversity will try to provide a scholarly environment in which some participants will naturally be motivated to help develop Wikibooks textbooks '''and''' other learning resources that might be usefully combined with textbooks. Some Wikiversity participants will use Wikibooks textbooks. The relationship between Wikiversity and Wikibooks will be a matter of synergy not conflict. That synergy is a natural &quot;side-effect&quot; of having two different projects. Beyond that natural synergy, Wikiversity will be mainly concerned with a learning model that goes well beyond the limitations of textbooks.

&quot;It is possible a group of individuals with considerable familiarity with such an infrastructure and a lot of motivation could establish processes within a year or so.&quot; &lt;-- I agree. My expectation is that if Wikiversity does adopt the policy that some original research activities will be supported within Wikiversity then it will be possible for Wikiversity to administer those activities.

&quot;no objection to research being overseen by other schools&quot; I agree that one of the things Wikiversity should do is provide links to institutions that are taking steps towards opening up research projects to collaboration via the internet. Some research groups with large data sets are inviting the public to help process the data. Providing links to such research projects and wiki-style articles that describe such projects is a natural component part of the proposal that Wikiversity be a central location where learners can gain access to useful learning resources. The Wikiversity objective of supporting active learners would be well served by connecting Wikiversity participants to research projects at conventional research institutions that are seeking online participants. 

'''Original Research'''. &quot;It would fundamentally alter the proposal either to include it, or to exclude it.&quot; &lt;-- I agree. As it stands, the proposal leaves the door open for the community to decide on this in the future.

&quot;Half of the proposal, in your statement, is Wikibooks materials.&quot; &lt;-- '''No'''. If I wrote anything that suggests this, please show it to me. My position is that there are learning materials that ARE NOT TEXTBOOKS and these other learning resources will be of interest to Wikiversity participants. The Wikiversity proposal says that Wikiversity will both point to outside sources of such resources and develop new ones at Wikiversity.

&quot;people will magically form into learning groups&quot; &lt;-- This is exactly the &quot;magic&quot; of wiki. I count Wikipedia [[w:Wikipedia:WikiProject|Wikiprojects]] as examples of the kinds of wiki-based communities that arise by &quot;magic&quot;. Wikiversity will support similar projects that are oriented towards learning about various topics. These Wikiversity-based Wikiprojects will function as &quot;learning groups&quot;. I agree that there are special challenges that need to be faced in supporting online learning communities. This is why there should be a Wikiversity. Other Wikimedia projects do not explicitly try to support learning communities in the way that Wikiversity will.

&quot;my experience in real life; home-schoolers and self-study tends to be predominately solo efforts, most successfully when the student has a textbook with a workbook or lab guide with both practice and scheduled examinations.&quot; &lt;-- The question is, can Wikiversity create something new. My view is that Wikiversity is an experiment to test the idea that the wiki user interface can create new forms of online learning. &quot;Wikiversity is an experiment: This is not a good reason to create a project&quot; &lt; I'm glad such caution did not control events when Wikipedia was started! I hope we have not already reached the point where people who are uncomfortable with the idea of exploring new and experimental wiki-based technologies are ready to start pulling back from the challenge of finding out just what we can do with wiki technology.

&quot;you should be able to measure whether or not you are enabling learning&quot; If learners are not learning at Wikiversity then they will leave; there will be no community, no editors, no page hits.

&quot;Assessment refers to learning assessment: has the student learned some or much of the body of knowledge regarding the chosen topic?&quot; I think an important part of Wikiversity will be Wikiversity user pages where Wikiversity participants document their learning goals, the learning projects they participate in and their satisfaction with and complaints about the Wikiversity learning process. There will also almost certainly be discussion pages for learning projects where there will be meta-discussion about the value of specific projects for learners. I'm not sure if you are suggesting the need for some sort of conventional assessment process such as tests and grades. The Wikiversity proposal is geared towards learners who are self-motivated, active learners. Such learners are often put-off by educators who think that student knowledge need be formally assessed. It may be that some Wikiversity participants will want conventional learning assessments and it may be that the community will develop them as an option. However, the Board has correctly pushed the Wikiversity community away from conventional elements such as courses, accreditation and conventional learning assessment that just do not fit well with the wiki format.&lt;BR&gt;--[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSurf]] 15:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

: I'm afraid there seems to be little point to this discussion. You state that what you will do is build a curricula, that a curricula is a part of Wikibooks, and that what you will do is not covered by Wikibooks. You state that a knowledgeable group of motivated people might be able to create processes within a year or two, a group which is currently not a part of the Wikiversity proposal apparently, and that it will not take years and doesn't need to be thought about anyway because the community will decide it all. You dismiss assessment as something which discourages the kind of students you wish to attract, and you would substitute userpages for course organization and program coordination, leaving the proposal without any concept as to whether it's '''doing''' anything.

: Do you have some basis for this concept of an experiment? Is there a theoretical framework from educational psychology which I have somehow failed to stumble across here? Because I frankly do not see any of the people so far involved in this learning experiment who have examined the area of science they are proposing a project into. Is this how you expect your learners to engage their topics? - [http://journowiki.org/index.php/User:Amgine Amgine] / &lt;sup&gt;[http://journowiki.org/index.php/User_talk:Amgine talk] [[User talk:Amgine|meta]]&lt;/sup&gt; 03:58, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

::There is definitely a point to this discussion, Amgine - and I very much welcome your thoughts here. However, there do seem to be some misunderstandings - John is not claiming that ''we are simply building curricula on Wikiversity (and that this is its rationale, since Wikibooks cannot host curricula)''. All of that (italicised) POV is untrue. At Wikiversity, we are developing learning ''materials'' (which will not be of the form of books), as well as communities around those materials. So, people can find an exercise, targeted to their level, carry out its tasks, and then consolidate their learning through joining (or creating) a learning community around that subject. It will be up to the members of that community (some of whom want to teach their subjects) to organise its own activities in order to facilitate its members' learning.

::I'm glad you brought up the theoretical perspective on learning in Wikiversity. People can, obviously, self-study and choose to work alone in Wikiversity - but the main thing that Wikiversity will ''facilitate'' is '''collaborative learning''' (see, eg. [http://teaching.berkeley.edu/bgd/collaborative.html]). This is becoming the predominant form of pedagogy in online learning - in other words, what we are proposing (and what many of us deal with in our brick-and-mortar institutions) is part of an ever more established form of education. True, we will cater for the conventional education model (in providing materials which can be used (and modified) by a teacher for their class, applied within their own pedagogical framework), but we are also providing for this type of group learning, which is inherently suited to being hosted on a wiki. (As I said, there will be much on this during Wikimania, if you're interested.) It is true that this has an experimental edge to it (particularly the research element, for which we will need to develop guidelines), but the underlying pedagogy is well-founded. You asked whether we have examined the area of science we are looking into - for one, I'm currently writing my second Masters dissertation on this subject, and Debora ([[User:WiseWoman]]) is a professor in Berlin, who has been working in the area of e-learning for many years now. John has also been working with wikis in education, is a research coordinator, and has experience with university teaching. There are many people within the Wikimedia community who want to contribute, and have experience with some form of education - but more than this, we have a whole community who spend their lives working through wikis. I value this kind of ''experience'' within Wikiversity's participant-base, as well as having a theoretical background to it (which, I admit, we will need to make clearer than what is currently on [[Wikiversity:Learning]]). &quot;Measurement&quot; or assessment may well be designed into courses/programmes within Wikiversity, but this is up to the learners and the facilitators - not the proposal writers.

::Overall, there is no single project (or even groups of projects) in Wikimedia which is about facilitating the kind of learning that Wikiversity aims to do. Furthermore, there is nowhere (even including Wikibooks) which can host the full range of learning materials that Wikiversity will. (True, Wikibooks will host some material which will overlap with wikiversity's, but wikiversity's material is a larger set than what Wikibooks has determined it will host - as per [[b:Wikibooks:What is Wikibooks|Wikibooks:What is Wikibooks]].) While it is true that Wikiversity needs further development, that should not mean that it cannot be set up as a beta project (as Wikinews was). We know that the 'materials' part will work, but the 'communities' part will need time to develop and mature. For this, we simply need to get Wikiversity set up before we can fully realise its potential (and limitations). [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] [[User talk:Cormaggio|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;small&gt;@&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;]] 12:58, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

::: If the material can be hosted within a Wiki and it would be an element of a curriculum, I cannot see why it would not be a part of the curricular guide for the relevant textbook.

::: Where I see your proposed project differentiating itself from the other Wikimedia Foundation projects is in the active learning. While this is a laudable effort, I fundamentally disagree that a wiki is the proper software for this effort as you state; a wiki is not an optimal communications software, nor is it suited to the cyclical, transient nature of education. There are much more suitable software, as WiseWoman is clearly aware, even open source systems.

::: I also disagree with your statement that this model is the &quot;predominant form of pedagogy in online learning.&quot; I, too, am peripherally involved in online instruction, primarily with WebCT. In addition, I'm aware of a range of distance learning tools and methods used at the undergraduate and graduate level in Canadian universities, as well as research in the health fields which, in point of fact, is often a self-directed learning process. In none of these models is there the approach of &quot;we'll create course content, without assessment or oversight, and people will just show up and we'll call it a success when they appear.&quot;

::: May I suggest that the incubator wiki would be a possible location for hosting a beta version of this proposed project? You could there show how I am wrong about your curricular &quot;materials&quot;, wrong that wiki is the best software for such an effort, and wrong about the viability of the method. I have several subjects in which I am personally interested in extending my knowledge base; I'd be happy to volunteer as a beta tester. - [http://journowiki.org/index.php/User:Amgine Amgine] / &lt;sup&gt;[http://journowiki.org/index.php/User_talk:Amgine talk] [[User talk:Amgine|meta]]&lt;/sup&gt; 16:54, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

==Amgine discussion, continued==
“You state that what you will do is build a curricula, that a curricula is a part of Wikibooks, and that what you will do is not covered by Wikibooks.” ← I’m not sure what point you are trying to make. Do you want a decision within the Wikimedia community that says Wikibooks deals with all aspects of the development of online curriculum resources and Wikiversity does not deal with the development of curriculum resources? You seem to implicitly reject the idea that there can be development of textbooks at Wikibooks and development of other types of learning resources at Wikiversity. The [[b: Wikibooks:What is Wikibooks|Wikibooks community]] has rather narrowly defined the content of Wikibooks to just textbooks. The Wikiversity proposal says that the Wikiversity project will be open to the development and hosting of all other types of learning resources (not textbooks). This is clearly a much broader goal than has been adopted by the Wikibooks project. To a certain extent, it is reasonable to talk about Wikiversity as building a curriculum, however, the Wikiversity proposal does not discuss any kind of organized effort to build an integrated system of academic studies. An integrated curriculum is fundamental to the one-size-fits-all factory model of education, a model that Wikiversity does not adopt. The first main objective of Wikiversity is to develop and host online learning resources and it is true that such resources could be used as learning aids within a conventional curriculum. However, the second major part of the Wikiversity model for online learning is more concerned with development of a distributed system of online activities that can facilitate individualized learning and learners who are exploring their personal interests outside of any conventional curriculum.

“You state that a knowledgeable group of motivated people might be able to create processes within a year or two, a group which is currently not a part of the Wikiversity proposal apparently, and that it will not take years and doesn't need to be thought about anyway because the community will decide it all.” ← The term “research” covers a very broad range of activities. Some activities that can be called “research” already exist to a limited extent within various Wikimedia projects. Most existing Wikimedia projects are either openly hostile to research or do not actively support it. The Wikiversity proposal says that Wikiversity will be supportive of the types of research activities that already exist within other Wikimedia projects. This in a new direction for Wikimedia because it is an initiative to support activities that have so far only been tolerated within other Wikimedia projects, not actively supported. In addition, the Wikiversity proposal indicates that the Wikiversity community will be open to exploration of the idea that a broader range of research activities can be supported within the wiki user environment. I personally reject the idea that the research component of Wikiversity “doesn't need to be thought about”. When the Board reviewed the original Wikiversity proposal no objection was raised to the idea that Wikiversity would be open to research and community development of a policy for dealing with research activities. I agree that it is not obvious that the Wikiversity community will be able to support original research. Exploration of how to support original research at Wikiversity will be an exploration in a new direction for the Wikimedia community. Being open to such an exploration is a relatively minor component of the Wikiversity proposal. I do not see how it makes sense to suggest that some detailed plan for research has to be in place at this time. It is sensible to propose that the community will address this issue in the future. You seem to object to the idea that “the community will decide it all.” I would be interested to hear what alternative method could be used for the development of Wikiversity.

“you would substitute userpages for course organization and program coordination” ← I mentioned the idea that that the userpages of Wikiversity participants could play a role in facilitating feedback about Wikiversity from individual Wikiversity participants to the community. I also mentioned other meta-discussion pages that would exist for evaluating Wikiversity. “course organization” ← There is some utility in using terms such as “course” to discuss the learning activities that will be available at Wikiversity, however, the proposed Wikiversity model for online learning moves away from conventional courses. A major component of the Wikiversity proposal is the “learning project” which is by definition a self-organizing wiki project. The Wikiversity learning projects will have discussion pages where project participants can discuss how to coordinate their activities in the usual wiki way.

“leaving the proposal without any concept as to whether it's doing anything.” ← I assume you mean “leaving the project without…”. You seem to implicitly reject the idea that there is a standard way of measuring the success of wikis (page hits, page creation, page edits). Wikiversity will have policies for content and the community will make sure that Wikiversity content is restricted to its learning-oriented [[Wikiversity/Modified project proposal#Mission|mission]]. My personal expectation is that Wikiversity content will be created mainly by Wikiversity participants who are engaged in Wikiversity-hosted learning projects. These Wikiversity participants will only remain and contribute if they feel that they are part of an exciting and growing community of explorers and learners. If Wikiversity does not provide an environment where participants feel that they are learning, then there will be few participants and the project will die. I seriously believe that project growth will provide a valid measure of if the project is “doing anything.”

“Do you have some basis for this concept of an experiment” ← There is a large literature on &quot;individualized education&quot; which is a relevant starting point for thinking about learning in a wiki environment. However, I think that wiki technology will provide a new twist on individualized learning. The existing literature on individualized education mostly concerns how a conventional education system can accommodate learners who want to learn by following their personal interests. A common approach to individualized learning is to treat individualized learners as a minority group that exists outside of the mainstream. Wikiversity will be able to host a community of participants who enjoy and seek out opportunities for individualized learning. Within this Wikiversity-hosted community, individualized learning will not be a minority path that needs to be merely accommodated. My expectation is that within this community it will be discovered that the individual interests of learners are not really the interests of a minority. I believe that Wikiversity will demonstrate that when individuals are allowed to explore their personal interests these explorers will find that they do have common interests and that ''those'' common interests of learners will more clearly reveal the true “majority interests” of learners than does the conventional education system. This online community will use new technologies that support online community organization and collaboration and these new online communities of learners will discover new ways to explore their interests, ways that are not utilized by the conventional education system. I think the only way to find out if this is the case is to give Wikiversity a try. I doubt if '''any''' scholar can claim to know the ultimate powers and limitations of wiki technology.

“how you expect your learners to engage their topics?” ← I am skeptical about the possibility of predicting exactly what form Wikiversity will attain. I expect that Wikiversity participants will heavily use communications methods such as video chat and video conferencing in order interact in real time with other members of the community. I support the goal of MediaWiki development towards better communications tools such as the idea of integrating a text-based discussion system into MediaWiki and it would make sense to make such a system available at Wikiversity. Conventional wiki “talk pages” are too limiting. I think Wikiversity participants will state their learning goals and identify other members of the community with overlapping interests. Those who share common learning goals will cooperate on learning projects and learning will take place while the project participants develop Wikiversity content. In some cases, Wikiversity learning projects will be “literature review groups” that find and discuss the existing literature on a topic. Such learning groups will sometimes support the development of other Wikimedia projects by finding good sources and adding new content to Wikiversity and Wikibooks. The default wiki editing activity for Wikiversity learning project participants will be the editing of Wikiversity pages that are concerned with the development of online learning projects that support learning about particular topics.

“If the material can be hosted within a Wiki and it would be an element of a curriculum, I cannot see why it would not be a part of the curricular guide for the relevant textbook.” ← Learning materials developed by Wikiversity participants should be able to move to Wikibooks as long as those materials fit with the narrow definition of Wikibooks content that has been developed by that project. The whole community will have to decide where particular types of learning materials are hosted, probably with the first goal being to have Wikiversity simply provide links to other websites that are willing to host high-bandwidth resources such as educational video. There is an important distinction between mentioning a learning resource as “part of the curricular guide” and actually hosting that learning resource at Wikibooks. If something like a PowerPoint presentation was made by a learning group at Wikiversity or was donated to Wikiversity by an educator, would Wikibooks want to host it?  

I suspect that most Wikiversity content will not be clearly identifiable as a conventional “element of a curriculum”. My expectation is that most Wikiversity content will be generated by Wikiversity participants who are engaged in Wikiversity-hosted learning projects and these Wikiversity participants will not be particularly interested in creating learning material “[[b: Wikibooks:What is Wikibooks#What Wikibooks includes|usable in an existing class]]”.

For example, the Wikiversity proposal suggests that there could be a Wikiversity project devoted to learning how to write code for MediaWiki. Such a Wikiversity learning project would probably involve things like a “help desk” that is able to support interactions between learners and a mentoring team. In the “active learning” model of Wikiversity, the learners would probably participate in discussion of what new features should be coded and the creation of pieces of code. The set of pages at Wikiversity that support such a learning group would be important Wikiversity content. A set of wiki pages that supports a group of learners could be classified as an element of a non-traditional &quot;Wikiversity curriculum&quot;. It is not clear that Wikibooks would be open to hosting these wiki pages. Some Wikiversity participants would probably work to build the [[b: Programming:MediaWiki Developer's Handbook|MediaWiki Developer's Handbook]], but it would also make sense for that book to just link back to relevant content at Wikiversity. 

“I fundamentally disagree that a wiki is the proper software for this effort as you state; a wiki is not an optimal communications software, nor is it suited to the cyclical, transient nature of education.” ← I am suspicious of the idea that there is a “proper software” for online learning. This sounds like someone in 1930 trying to define the “proper airplane” as one with a propeller. 

&quot;we'll create course content, without assessment or oversight, and people will just show up and we'll call it a success when they appear.&quot; ← An argument could have been advanced against Wikipedia when it started: “How can you create the content of an encyclopedia without assessment or oversight?” Many critics of Wikipedia still claim that Wikipedia will never really be a success because it relies on the wiki system of community participation. The “assessment and oversight“ comes from the wiki community. I know that some people do not trust the power of wiki communities to “do the right thing”, but I’m not sure that such opinions can be expected to have a great deal of influence on people who want to explore the power of wiki technology. 

“May I suggest that the incubator wiki would be a possible location for hosting a beta version of this proposed project?” ← The Wikiversity proposal was previously approved by the community. The Board requested some modifications to the original project proposal. Those modifications have been made. Personally, I’d like to see a compelling argument for placing any new barriers in front of the project at this time. Even if the Wikibooks community decided that it would host all types of “curricular materials&quot; (which seems to be against their currently defined policy), there would still be a place for Wikiversity as a place that will support the development of such materials. Yes, wiki software has limitations, but why is that a reason for not exploring what can be done to support online learning with wiki technology? A conscious decision by the Wikimedia community to '''NOT''' carry out such an exploration needs to be justified by more than doubts from a minority about what will happen in the future. A new-born wiki community is fragile. Potential participants have to decide if they should invest their efforts. Anything less than full approval of Wikiversity as a Wikimedia sister project would probably just be a very public and ugly way to kill the project in slow motion. Yes, Wikiversity might fail to become a stable and growing wiki. But at least if we give it a serious try then the WikiMedia community will know that it had given the idea a fair test.&lt;BR&gt;
--[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSurf]] 19:53, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

== Wikiversity, as named, should get its [[Wikiversity:Main_Page]] in full gear. ==

Hello everyone,

Since most of the comments that I see here are fairly recent, rather than the multitude of 2005 Wikiversity comments that I've found everywhere else in Meta, I thought that I'd stop in here to ask you this one simple question.  Where is the correct place to go to talk about the state of Wikiversity today.  Thanks. --[[User:Ermeyers|Ermeyers]] 20:59, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
*This is the place to be. If you know of Wikiversity-related pages that do not lead here, please link them to this page. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSurf]] 14:47, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
::There is also a low volume WMF mailing list.  http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/textbook-l  If you wish to query the WMF members directly there is a different list for foundation specific issues.  http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l  [[User:68.238.143.172|68.238.143.172]] 05:13, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== When is this project going to be up an running? ==

It's was voted on a long time ago, can someone just start up an test site and see where it goes from their? Maybe someone with an independent wiki could start it up and then port it back into the project space when this proposal finnaly gets approved. --User:Rayc from wikipedia

:The last rumor I heard was that the [[Special projects committee]] has discussed the current version of the Wikiversity project proposal and there was a favorable response. The Wikimedia Board of Trustees must still give their approval for the project. It is possible that Wikiversity will launch in August. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSurf]] 17:33, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

::I can confirm this. We are now awaiting feedback from the board, and we will hopefully be up and running by Wikimania (or, if not, then very soon after). [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] [[User talk:Cormaggio|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;small&gt;@&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;]] 12:20, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

:::Are there minutes or committee resolutions available that a link can be provided for interested parties?  [[User:68.238.143.172|68.238.143.172]] 05:07, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

::::&quot;We are now awaiting feedback from the board&quot; &lt;-- I assume this means that there was a resolution passed by the Special projects committee that is not listed at [[Special projects committee/Resolutions]]. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSurf]] 20:59, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

:::::Yes, there was a resolution - it will be made public once it has been approved for publication. And to update on &quot;when Wikiversity will be up and running&quot;, well, I will try to confirm this now, but we are currently in the midst of Wikimania, so I'm not sure how much time the relevant people (ie board) will have over the next few days. I thought it might be in place by Wikimania, but it may be just after. [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] [[User talk:Cormaggio|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;small&gt;@&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;]] 21:12, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Text of the special projects committee's [http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution_Wikiversity Wikiversity Resolution] and vote by the Board.&lt;BR&gt;--[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSurf]] 05:02, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

== A Major Oversight in the Proposal ==

We should make it clear in the proposal that Wikiversity intends to function as a standalone project with its own government/management process and seeks sponsorship from the WMF in the form of servers.   Obviously the WMF can lay out requirements for sponsorship (such as no courses or attempts to gain accreditation).  Just as obviously, in the event of large future success, the Wikiversity can establish its own infrastructure in the event that controversy or incompatibilities with future directions of the WMF Board or other sponsored WMF projects convince the Wikiversity community to become independent of the WMF.   The written agreement and approval by the WMF Board and the Activation Committee should make this clear and establish that Logos and URLs used by Wikiversity belong to the Wikiversity project and would go with the Wikiversity project should the community through it governing process decide to establish or seek infrastructure support elsewhere.  If this is not done then Wikiversity will always be subject to huge delays, such as we have already seen, in decision loops which can greatly diminish its chances of success.   Experience with the Wiki format for projects has shown that agile communities can suceed rapidly (Wikiipedia, Wiktionary) while overly regulated and ignored communities (see project and proposed projects list at meta) tend to fade or drift into static nonperformance.  Direct experience with the existing Wikiversity prototypes have demonstrated the damage that unstable URLs can inflict on Wiki style community projects.  [[User:68.238.143.172|68.238.143.172]] 07:21, 3 August 2006 (UTC) lazyquasar

:I just can't understand this. This whole reason we have spent so long in getting Wikiversity set up in the way we have is ''so it will be a Wikimedia project''. You're perfectly free to set up an independent project, just as anyone else is, and always have been. But Wikiversity, as proposed, will be a Wikimedia project - full stop. On future decision-making, I don't think we should take the process so far to reflect necessarily every development that will happen in the future; for example, policy development, will, as on all other Wikimedia projects, be an openly collaborative process. [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] [[User talk:Cormaggio|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;small&gt;@&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;]] 20:12, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

::&quot;Wikiversity can establish its own infrastructure&quot; &lt;-- I think you mean that it will be possible for there to be a [[w:Fork (software development)|fork]] of the Wikiversity project. It is always possible for wiki projects to fork ([http://enciclopedia.us.es/index.php/Enciclopedia_Libre_Universal_en_Espa%F1ol example]), but I'm not sure why the issue needs to be mentioned here, now. As far as I know the Wikimedia Foundation will be in control of URLs and any copyrighted components of the Wikiversity project. If the Wikiversity project ever forks, the new (non-Wikimedia Foundation) fork will have to get its own servers, its own project name and a new URL. A possible exception to this would be if the Foundation decided to sell Wikiversity to another entity and in so doing transfer the URL and all components of the project to a new owner.
::&quot;If this is not done then Wikiversity will always be subject to huge delays&quot;&lt;-- I'm not sure what sort of delays you are imagining. Can you explain? --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSurf]] 21:25, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

:&quot;policy development, will, as on all other Wikimedia projects, be an openly collaborative process&quot; &lt;-- I have been wondering if it might be wise to make an explicit statement about Wikiversity policy such as: &quot;at its launch, Wikiversity will make use of Wikipedia policy as a default until the Wikiversity community establishes new education-oriented policies that may diverge from Wikipedia policies.&quot; --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSurf]] 21:31, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Wikiversity project mentioned at Wikimania ==

See: [http://wikimania2006.wikimedia.org/wiki/Archives#Jimbo_Wales_-_opening_session Jimbo Wales - opening session] at Wikimania. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSurf]] 16:05, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

::If you download the file, you can find Wikiversity mentioned between 27m:07s and 28m:53s (at the end you just hear Jimbo reacting to my yippee from the back of the room ;-)), as well as again (briefly) between 47m:09s and 49m:09s (on &quot;freeing the curriculum&quot;). [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] [[User talk:Cormaggio|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;small&gt;@&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;]] 15:57, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

:Yes, this was great. Also, I'll be participating (at short notice) in a panel this morning (Room 102 @ 9:30 EST) - it should be recorded, and I'll post a link here if I find it. [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] [[User talk:Cormaggio|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;small&gt;@&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;]] 11:03, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

== Learning Objects ==

What of [[w:Learning object]]s and [[w:Learning object metadata]]? Are they part of Wikiversity's future? [[User:Quinobi|Quinobi]] 20:57, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
:I started a page, [[Learning object metadata]] just in case. [[User:Quinobi|Quinobi]] 05:39, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

== Wikiversity proposal modifications ==

Wikiversity is a center to support learning, teaching, and research in the free culture movement.

* Rationale: Put the emphasis on the action and not on the materials
* Rationale: Put the emphasis on the activity and not the people.  In a read-write world a user is also a creator.
* Rationale: Make it clear that we are talking free as in speech and not free as in beer.  People can and should charge money for these things as along as they have unencumbered copyrights.  *** You can't leave the money to the proprietary people ***
* Rationale: When we start to talk about how to support learning, teaching, and research, we are going to start talking about money, and one contribution that I can make is that I can talk a lot about money.

Remove everything else from the mission statement.  We shouldn't limit ourselves as to *how* we achieve this mission.

Remove the &quot;e-learning&quot; model from the project proposal.  We really have no idea how best to teach people online (or if there is a best way or even if teaching is a valid concept) and we shouldn't pretend we do.  Instead of assuming a model, then just do it, and see what happens.

Remove the section on degree granting institution.  Wikiversity *does* not grant degrees.  There is absolutely no reason to say that Wikiversity *should* not or *will* not grant degrees.  It's actually less hard to grant accreditted degrees than one might think.  Olin College started with $500,000 send money, and Ars Digital University didn't start with that much money.  If someone comes by and wants to get wikimedia to start a degree granting institution, it needs to be thought and discussed, but one shouldn't say no to begin with.

I say we strip everything from the proposal except for that one sentence goal.  Everything else we can evolve on the wiki.  There are about five or six pages that I can put as a seed.

[[User:Roadrunner|Roadrunner]] 05:40, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

== Label activities and not people!!!!! ==

It is very important if Wikiversity is to avoid the pathologies that infect most universities that we label activities and do not label people.  I know more about the collapse of type II supernova than my six year old son.  He knows a lot more about Pokemon than I will.  The second you label me a teacher because I have a Ph.D. and him a student because he has just finished kindergarten, you've destroyed the heart of what could make Wikiversity different.  In a class on Pokemon, he is the expert, and I'm the student.

This is a small rather harmless example, but there are some nastier ones.  Why is a professor who has never been a third world peasant lecturing third world peasants on the problems of third world peasants?

Once you start labelling activities and not people, then there are a huge number of social implications.  If people aren't clearly faculty or students then it makes no sense to have a faculty club or student union.  

The big problem with academia is that you create this hierarchical nasty social class structure that no one likes (not even the people at the top).  We need to make sure that we start with the goal of minimizing the class structure (which means the template box needs to get rewritten).

(Also once you label activities rather than people, then people stop caring about the labels they get.)

[[User:Roadrunner|Roadrunner]] 05:54, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

== Be bold!!! ==

Let's create a learning and research institution that challenges MIT (my alma mater), Harvard, Yale, and Oxbridge.  They need to be challenged.  They want to be challenged.  Why can't we challenge them?
[[User:Roadrunner|Roadrunner]] 06:08, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

== Being bold.... ==

I've said everything I need to say.  You can look at more of my thoughts at http://twofish.wordpress.com/ and also the fact that I've already done a beta, prototype test of wikiversity at http://www.gnacademy.org/ and there are a lot of lessons, that I'd be willing to share with people.

I'm too busy actually trying to do research and learning to get too involved in political discussion.  There are about five or six things (and lots of random bits of useful experience) that I need right now from people and I'm dumping them onto the wikiversity page.

[[User:Roadrunner|Roadrunner]] 06:21, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

== See notes on degrees ==

I've added some notes on the wikiversity page on how wikiversity can (and should) grant degrees.  I've also started a &quot;case study&quot; of trying to figure out what it would take to do a Bachelor of Science in Physics that could get someone admitted to a doctoral program.

In the case of specialized degrees what the professional societies think is *far* more important than what the regional accreditors think.  If the American Astronomical Society thinks that a bachelor's degree is good and schools are willing to accept these students into graduate programs, then the fact that a regional accreditator doesn't accredit the degree is irrelevant.  (Regional accreditors just accredit institutions.)

Students look for degrees so that
   * they can get jobs
   * they can get qualified for further education

And there is no reason that wikiversity can't provide instructions on how to put together a degree through independent learning using free culture materials.  Since we have this social network, we can ask employers want they want, and grad school admission committee folk what they want.

In the case of Bachelor of Physics, one shouldn't put too much emphasis on the course list, because what is on the course list is not a very important factor in graduate school admissions.  What is important is whether or not the student seems to have a grasp of the basic skills and is capable of independent research.

[[User:Roadrunner|Roadrunner]] 07:43, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

:I will raise the point here that Wikiversity can't grant degrees by mandate of the board of trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation.  Any degrees that are granted must be approved by that board, and will have to go through a rigerous approval process well before that occurs.  In addition, academic standards will have to be raised to astronomical levels (compared to most academic standards on most Wikimedia projects) before accredation standards can possibly be met for Wikiversity.  Mainly, this is something that may happen in the future, but I would count on waiting at least a decade or more before it happens, if it ever does.
:I do support the idea that eventually degrees may be conferred by Wikiversity, but let's not get ahead of the real issue here.  We are trying to establish Wikiversity in the first place and get a place started that will do community education.  This is a long road, and even before trying to issue a certificate of completion, let's get a few courses established that could even get a curriculum going.  Degrees are so far down the road I can't even see the details on how they would be established.  --[[User:Roberth|Roberth]] 20:42, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
:: We're talking about a yet-to-be-declared [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Elections_for_the_Board_of_Trustees_of_the_Wikimedia_Foundation%2C_2006/En Board of Trustees]. Moreover, not all so-called yet-to-exist Trustees would be knowledgable in certain subjects in academia. Also, where exactly is this mandate that degrees must be approved by the board (and is it prudent for this to be so)? Finally, academic standards need not be raised too much higher, since there are reputable degree-granting universities with standards lower than what's already available in both Wikibooks/Wikipedia. Don't be cynical and don't expect the Internet to work as slowly as the real world; this can happen, soon, too! --[[User:Yosofun|Yosofun]] 09:20, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

== Started degree plan for Bachelor of Science in Physics ==

I've started a degree plan for a Bachelor of Science in Physics.  The goal of this degree plan is to provide the &quot;MIT Course 8 experience&quot; in a way that is scalable to thousands if not millions of students rather than the seventy that it is there right now.

:: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Bachelor_of_Science_in_Physics BS in Physics Wikiversity Plans] is presumably the missing link above. Interestingly, the guy proposes accreditation with certain universities. But, I believe the Physics degree should be one of the first ones; every single new university starts with a physics department. --[[User:Yosofun|Yosofun]] 09:13, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

== How active is this project? ==

Who is actively working on this?

I have a very clearly defined vision for what Wikiversity should and could be, and I'd like to make some massive changes to the Wikiversity pages to reflect that vision.  If there is a community consensus to do something, I'll respect it, but I haven't heard any feedback, positive or negative, on the edits I've made, or the direction I think Wikiversity should go.

To summarize.  I'm in this for some pretty selfish purposes.  There are about four or five things that I want wikiversity to give me.  I want information on the quantitative finance job situation in NYC.  I want the names of cheap hostels.  I want to be a respected academic, and traditional academia won't give that to me.  I want to blow up the gatekeeppers and the academic admission boards since they've been nasty to me.  In exchange, there is lots of stuff I can contribute to Wikiversity.  Namely, I've already been involved in one effort to set up an online university, and I know a lot of the pitfalls.  (One is too much talk, not enough real stuff done.)

Also, I think it is a mistake to go for &quot;board approval&quot; without an active community.  &quot;Approvals&quot; is why academia is in a mess.  People needs to be taught to go and just do what needs to be do rather than waiting for approval.

So how boldly I can edit?

[[User:Roadrunner|Roadrunner]] 13:38, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

:I think that further edits of the &quot;modified Wikiversity proposal&quot; are not going to be useful. As far as I can tell (based on what was said at Wikimania), the proposal as it existed at the end of July was evaluated by the Wikimedia Board of Trustees and approved. The proposal that was approved by the Board is a plan for how to launch Wikiversity. During the first six months of the project, it will be important to set up the new website and establish the two main proposed components of the project. Also, the Wikiversity community will have to try to decide on policies for research activities that will be supported by Wikiversity. That much is in the proposal that the Board approved. The community is free to work towards additional goals. I suspect that many people are reluctant to try to do much development of the project until the new Wikiversity website is set up. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSurf]] 01:33, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

== Wikiversity is or can be ... ==

''(Note: [[User:Reswik|Doug]] left me this on my talk page, but I'm just posting it here (edited) for everyone to see..)'' [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] [[User talk:Cormaggio|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;small&gt;@&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;]] 19:00, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

* an expanding online sphere of learners and scholars?
* a community of communities of knowledge workers?
* an internet university?
* a repository of and for academic curricula, projects, and explorations? 
* a social production network for collaboration in knowledge investigation and creation?
* a critical and reflective dimension of the wikimedia universe?
* many online discourses in dialog?
* a multiversity? and/or...
* one complex node in the emerging multiversity of the interaction of many large online and offline endeavors in the practice of human knowledge making and sharing? 
* a multidimensional intersection of a wide variety of traditional and nontraditional learning and researching methods, schools of thought, and experiments?
* something(s) new
* a whole lot of fun
* all of these in interaction and more?

The above are just some nuggets of thoughts: Fragments of visioning and pondering as I absorb the Wikiversity proposal. Perhaps a list of different visions in seed form, perhaps like this or perhaps more articulated, could be expanded and then prioritized for most relevance to Wikiversity. Has something like this been done--if so, where? If not, I think this could be interesting to do. One aim in inviting comments in such an exercise could be to access various alternative and emergent discourses about collaborative learning and scholarship. [[User:Reswik|Reswik]] 18:43, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

:At Wikimania Jimmy Wales [http://wikimania2006.wikimedia.org/wiki/Opening_Plenary_%28transcript%29#Software_changes_for_stable_versions_.2852:30.29 said something] about how we should run many small experimets that test ideas and that we need to be flexible and change so as to adopt the ideas that work. I hope that Wikiversity can have a &quot;a list of different visions in seed form&quot; and a community that will be ready to explore and experiment. The requirement for &quot;a whole lot of fun&quot; is fundamental. Learning should be fun. Wikiversity should be fun.....it should be a place of play. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSurf]] 21:25, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

::I agree that Wikiversity should be fun, easy to navigate, and home to a vibrant community, but with a &quot;serious&quot; side, as well. Reswik, for &quot;different visions in seed form&quot; you might have a look at [[Communitas]] and [[Talk:Communitas]] if you haven't already. Wikiversity is very important to the Communitas/Prioritas vision. We've touched many of the above points. &amp;bull; [[User:Quinobi|Quinobi]] 22:25, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

:::JW, Doing lots of small experiments sounds like a good plan. One experiment could be an ongoing &quot;different visions&quot; experiment -- generating many views of possibilities -- revising these in relation to outcomes of dialog and experiments -- playing with combinations and summarizing those somehow -- iterating those steps. Quinobi, Communitas looks very interesting. I'll tune in there. FYI, I'll be mostly offline this coming week. Best, Doug/[[User:Reswik|Reswik]] 14:41, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

== On Accreditation ==

Though the current proposal on Wikiversity holds the stance against accreditation, I can think of several reasons off the top of my head why the possibility of accreditation should be reconsidered. 

Accreditation would make Wikiversity much more useful and popular. Moreover, it is in-sync with the philosophy of Wikimedia. ''Imagine a world where one needs to spend only one's study time to get a degree--no paycheck drain or scholarship drain necessary.'' '''Wikiversity, the fully accredited free university.'''

Through partnerships with existing universities and various outreach programs, accreditation might be possible. With endeavors such as the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Laptop_Per_Child OLPC project], the whole world will have access to an Internet-capable computer. If Wikiversity comes along, kids in third world countries can attain a university degree for free - money ''and place'' no barrier - what if you don't want to leave your home to become hopelessly Americanized? --[[User:Yosofun|Yosofun]] 09:09, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

:Personally, I view the [[Wikiversity/Modified project proposal|Wikiversity project proposal]] as a short list of priorities for launching the project. As is true for any wiki, what Wikiversity ultimately becomes will depend on what the Wikiversity community can accomplish. Accreditation is a slow process that follows the establishment of a school. An established set of standards and peer review are typically very important parts of an accreditation process. Wikiversity is going to be an exploration of how to use wiki technology to support online learning. I think it is unrealistic to imagine that Wikiversity will replicate a conventional learning environment (based on conventional courses) that can be accredited just like any conventional institution of learning. Wikiversity is going to discover and develop new modes of online learning that are suitable for the wiki user interface, not adopt strategies that evolved to serve bricks-and-mortar institutions. At some point in time, far in the future, Wikiversity might be able to establish standards for wiki-based learning. Eventually, there might be many learning-oriented wikis and they might be able to establish a system for peer review. My best guess is that all this will take a great deal of time and it will be many years before the Wikiversity community needs to be concerned with accreditation. I think Wikiversity should have &quot;outreach programs&quot;. A first step could be having online Wikiversity-based projects and activities that bricks-and-mortar education institutions will want to make use of as &quot;assignments&quot; for students who are taking conventional courses. Eventually, conventional online educational institutions might design courses around Wikiversity content and give their students credit for completing those courses. With time, it might be possible for a conventional online educational institution to have a complete course of study that is based on Wikiversity content. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSurf]] 15:38, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
:: I think it's exciting to see Wikiversity as an experiment that will discover and develop new modes of online learning suitable for the wiki UI, ''straying away from traditional learning strategies.'' Also, since we are straying away from the old brick-and-mortar institutions, we might as well realize how ''unnecessary'' the old slow processes of accreditation are. The establishment of a school, traditionally, is slow often due to funding issues, which perhaps bar its expansion. WM, however, does not suffer from this expansion problem; rather, I'd say, WM's established itself rather well. Moreover, since there is now a standardized curriculum in the basic science disciplines all founding universities start with (physics/math/chemistry), there is already an established set of standards from which to compare the potential Wikiversity degree (in the basic sciences) with. The point is that the old systems of designing a degree often involves many meetings, where very little go on, sometimes stagnating when the defining members of the new degree somehow cannot make it! A lot of the traditional difficulties might be eliminated through proper usage of MW.  [[User:Yosofun|Yosofun]] 02:42, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

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:I have to agree here with John on the time table to get degrees granted by Wikiversity.  It is going to take years, many years, before Wikiversity is going to be ready to grant a bachelor's degree, much less graduate degrees.  The standards for associate degrees tends to be considerably less, and it may be possible in a few years to see something akin to an associate degree being granted by Wikiversity.
:For the moment, this is going to be learning for knowledge's sake, and not for achieving any sort of formal academic credentials.  This is both going to democratize the instructor pool (there aren't going to be any specific academic credentials required for teaching) as well as open the opportunities for people from very diverse backgrounds from being able to participate at relatively low cost.
:I hope that some sort of &quot;certificates of completion&quot; will also be eventually given out for some projects, but it should be noted that such certificates won't be considered a degree, and their merit and value will have to stand independently of other academic qualifications.
:Even something as simple as a continuing education credit (CEU's as they are sometimes called) is going to require some serious effort on the part of the Wikiversity participants.  If you want to shoot for a very, very tough but realistic goal for a formal notation of academic qualifications, perhaps this is where we need to strive to move Wikiversity at the moment.  Even then, having hundreds of CEUs don't qualify you to earn a degree, and CEUs are only really good for people who already have a bachelor's degree from another university and are trying to maintain educational credentials.  That is a very small subset of potential Wikiversity participants.  --[[User:Roberth|Roberth]] 18:28, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
:: &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The problem with democratizing the instrutor pool is that of notorious un-notability... in other words, what if you have a scientist believing that the world is flat teaching a science course--with the secret intent of brainwashing his innocent students into believing in his heresy? Or worse, what if you have someone who not only believes, but actually ''doesn't know'' that the world is not flat convincing everyone else that it is? Instead of that, I propose using the established standards to create an examination, which potential instructors must past before becoming instructors. One way this can be implemented, while keeping everything democratic, is by selecting questions for the exam fromh a pool of questions submitted by users in a particular subject field. 
:: &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Also, since you mention that you're in favor of Certificates of Completion, you might consider how organizations (just a few months older than Wikipedia) such as [http://Brainbench.com Brainbench] have become respectable issuers of Certification. It's true that Certification is not regarded the same as a degree, but you have to consider just what a degree is. I'm going to quote what I said on your [[User_talk:Roberth#Wikiversity_revert...|userpage]] to bring the topic to light to others:          
::::      &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ''Though Wikiversity is still in its foundational throes, I'm not sure if the reasons you provided justify the initial straying away from being a degree-granting institute. First of all, you should not assume that Wikiversity is a scam, especially not one akin to those that proclaim, &quot;Give me $1000, and I'd give you a B.S.&quot; The core of the scam in such notorious Internet presences is the extortion of money without the proper transmission of the knowledge that should come from such a transaction. In other words, the traditional purpose of a degree is something like a [Userbox]: it concisely summarizes the skill a person has attained from a period of study, and it helps the employer gauge the person's ability to contribute to their relational concern. The scams can't possibly offer that, but WM can.''
::::     &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;''That being said, from the sheer intellectual wealth of the WM Foundation, a dearth of knowledge is definitely not a problem -- nor, given the number of google hits, is the transmission of knowledge. As mentioned at Mania, one of WM's main goals in the upcoming year should be increasing the quality of articles -- essentially, notability. Translated to the needs of Wikiversity, this means that Wikiversity ought to offer a degree in its inception, both to assert its notability and to provide incentive for potential students to participate in depth: With the exception of a few polymaths, people tend to have &quot;interests of the moment,&quot; and long-term interests, the latter of which is more easily attained by having a socially-acceptable goal to work for -- this, in the traditional parlance, is called a degree. Would you want to spend four years studying Ancient Sumarian obscurities otherwise? '' 
:: &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The point is that a degree is what's offered after a bit of work in about 4-year's worth of study in a particular concentration -- it's a marker of skill and knowledge, think of it as the real world's Userbox. Its notability is often backed by the fame of the institute that grants it, but that's really only secondary. What matters, to most students, is that he gets one at the end of all that work... and I still don't see why Wikiversity can't offer it to start with... [[User:Yosofun|Yosofun]] 02:42, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

== en.Wikiversity exists! ==

Wikiversity (English) has finally been set up. [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Main_Page Knock yourself out]! [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] [[User talk:Cormaggio|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;small&gt;@&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;]] 08:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)</text>
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== 1 ==
''Traducido de los participantes del proyecto en inglés''

La página de discución [[Wikiversity talk:Scope of research/En|discussion page]] para el &quot;Alcance de la investigación&quot; trata de los tipos de [[Wikiversity:Original research|original research]] actividades que pueden alcanzarse dentro de Wikiversidad: 
#Revisiones bibliográficas que proporcionen nuevo conocimiento.
#Proyectos de investigación dentro de Wikiversidad que usan métodos de investigación en adición a las revisiones de bibliografia. ([http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Bloom_clock_project  example]).
#Proyectos de investigación en conjunto, que involucran investigadores en instituciones académicas por fuera de Wikiversidad ([http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Astronomy_Project example]).
[[Category:Research]]

== 2 ==
''Traducido de los participantes del proyecto en alemán''

&quot;Primero, una observación general: la distinción entre investigación &quot;primaria y secundaria es desconocida en la cultura Alemana. Por lo tanto, el único término relevante acá es &quot;investigación&quot;, y como tal, éste término implica una serie de metodologías críticas, que trascienden de forma meramente literaria.  

1. La disución debe comenzar con una definición del término &quot;investigación&quot;. Subsecuentemente, deberíamos sugerir la siguiente formulación, lo cual es común en emprésitos científicos en lengua Alemana: &quot;Investigación es la búsqueda metódica del conocimiento&quot;. 

2. Desde nuestro punto de vista la definición de &quot;investigación&quot; per se, es en un grado considerable, dependiente de la disciplina. Por lo tanto, los especialistas de cada área deben decidir por si mismos, que siginifica por investigación y qué tipo de investigación está permitida realizarse. Una regla que sea universalmente admitida para todos los especialistas de las diferentes áreas en Wikiversidad nos parece algo problemático.

3. Por lo tanto, las versiones individuales de los lenguajes de las diferentes versiones de Wikiversidad han determinado de forma independiente su propio contenido y dirección, también como sus procedimientos de operación internos (por ejemplo, tanto las versiones Alemanas de Wikipedia como las Alemana de Wikisource difieren substancialmente de sus respectivas contrapartes en lenguaje Inglés). Éste estado es positivo dado que contribuye a la diversidad intelectual y éste principio debería aplicarse a la Wikiversidad también. Basados en ésto, sugerimos que , la decisión acerca de qué tipos de investigación deberían permitirse, deben dejarse a los especielistas de cada área individual asi como a las versiones individuales del proyecto.&quot; ([http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity_translations/De_to_En_archive translation source])

== 3 ==
''De los participantes del proyecto en versión inglesa''

Ésta página: [[Wikiversity:Research/En]] Debe ser traducida al Alemán. Incluye instrucciones de los Directivos de Confianza de la Fundación Wikipedia acerca de cómo toda la comunidad de Wikiversidad necesita desarrollar ''UNA'' política de investigación que se aplicará a todo el proyecto de Wikiversidad.

Inclusive si el término &quot;investigación original&quot; no es bien conocido por los Alemanes, es de gran importancia para los Directivos de Confianza de la Fundación WikipediaEven. El término &quot;invstigación original&quot; es mencionado en [http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Theoriefindung Wikipedia:Theoriefindung]. La distribución debe ser hecha entre:&lt;BR&gt;1) formas de &quot;investigación secundaria&quot; (revisión de literatura) como se realiza en Wikipedia bajo la política de [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wp:nor No Original Research]&lt;BR&gt;y&lt;BR&gt;2) otras formas de investigación que no serían posibles si Wikiversidad adopta la política de Investigación No Original.

Si Wikiversidad está teniendo formas de actividad investigativa que no están restringidas por la política de Investigación No Original, entonces Wikiversidad necesita establecer políticas que rijan la forma en que dicha investigación será llevada a cabo en ''TODOS'' los idiomas.

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== 4 ==
Después de algún análisis, [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity_translations/7_September_IRC we on IRC #wikiversity-en] se llegó a la conclusión de que probablemente las mejor traducción es dividir las categorías en: &quot;investigación comparativa e investigación avanzada&quot;. Otra traducción no parece tener mucho significado. Como la frase adicional &quot;investigación activa&quot;, a menudo es confusa y se usa en un contexto diferente. [http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:Aschoeke Aschoeke]

== 5 ==
Veo parte de la distinción &quot;investigación original/investigación primaria&quot; cubierta por los térmios alemanes : „empirische Forschung“/„Literaturstudium und Dokumentation“ (&quot;Investigación empírica&quot;/&quot;Estudio de literatura y documentación&quot;). --Purodha 00:55, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Si la regulación del comité implica implementar aquí la regla de Wikipedia &quot;No fuentes primarias&quot;, deberíamos entonces cambiar el nombre del proyecto a &quot;Wiki-College&quot;. --Purodha 00:55, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[Traducido del Alemán usando los servicios de traducción de Google] Estoy de acuerdo con Purodhia y me gustaría establecer, en general y crucialmente que: cada piece de investigación empírica debe contener no sólo un resultado, sin también la documentación y ejecución precisa y/ el origen de la investigación, lo que permita a otros reproducir los resultados. Una prueba que no pueda ser reproducida debido a una descripción inadecuada, falsifica el resultado, en la misma forma en que lo hacen desviaciones de resultados de una prueba más precisa. --Dietrich 18:09, 12 November 2006 (CEST)


*¿Es posible o no operar en el contexto del concepto de investigación original de Wikiversidad?
*¿Cómo el objetivo y función actual de Wikiversidad debe ser enseñado?

== 6 ==
*¿Cómo asegura la comunidad de Wikiversidad investigación de alta calidad?
**¿Como prevenimos manipulaciones que puedan surgir de investigaciones dudosas en Wikiversidad?
**¿Necesita Wikiversidad un sistema de revisión formal para las investigaciones originales?
**¿Qué es investigación dudosa? ¿Quién lo decide? 
**Investigación versus publicación

== 8 ==
*Wiki-journals (http://academia.wikia.org)

== 9 ==
*Pensamientos...
**Necesitamos '''definir qué peligros partículares''' existen en permitir que la investigación se vuelva una parte de Wikiversidad y '''dibujar una red''' para la aceptación y conciliación entre  '''varios aspectos de investigación'''.
** En ''investigaciones con sujetos humanos'';  existe la pregunta: &quot;''Quién regula a los reguladores?''&quot;
**¿Qué es ''wiki-publicación''?

== 10 ==
*Reduzcan el alcance
**Crear una lista de tipos de actividades de investigación y ubiquen los tipos de acuerdo a qué tan fácil sería llevar a cabo esa investigación en Wikiversidad.

== 11 ==
Investigación Externa:
*Pregunta(de una discución en la Wikiversidad en Español): Qué hacemos con la investigación original (inclyendo trabajos de tesis) que son hechas externamente, y posteriormente licenciadas bajo GFDL? ¿Pertenece a Wikisource? ¿Pertenece a Wikiversidad?

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        Work in progress 

This is a toy model of a policy, an attempt to generalise slightly Wikipedia's ''No Original Research'' policy.  Two other core policies of Wikipedia are ''Neutral Point of View'' and ''Verifiability''.

  '''Policy:''' Wikiversity allows original researches, within the constraints of the Laws, 
  so long as the principal participants of such a research are available
  and can satisfactorily answer queries and defend the research.

A typical scenario may be: a scholar visits Wikiversity, studies, collaborates with others, answers some questions, discovers something interesting, reports it in a publication (either within Wikiversity or without), then she can do something else, or she is free to leave.  If she leaves, her scribbles on the ''Wikiversity blackboard'' would be unintelligeble to others.  And so a custodian wipes the blackboard clean for new scholars.

Remark:  Research is, by nature, temporary.  A successful piece of research matures into common knowledge.  Thus it makes much sense that the materials in Wikiversity pertaining to research have, in a sense, a time limit.

;''Question 0: How does this differ from the ''No Original Research'' policy on Wikipedia?  How does ''defending'' differ from ''citing sources''?
Preliminary answer:  The basic difference is that Wikipedia assume that the reader does nothing but checking facts.  In principle, Wikipedians are not supposed to understand an argument (see [[:en:w:WP:NOR#Synthesis of published material serving to advance a position]].  On the other hand, in principle, Wikiversity scholars are supposed to understand logical arguments, if the relvent facts are provided.  

Wikiversity scholars can and must support themselves with combinations of known facts and logical arguments.

;''Question 1: Does it work to prevent unsubstantiated researches staying in Wikiversity?''
Preliminary answer:  It works at least to some extend.  Most people who think deeply would welcome questions.  Those who are faking it will not stand much scrutiny.

;''Question 2: Does it serve to encourage good scholars to come?''

;''Question 3: Who should take the responsibility of scrutinising?''
Preliminary answer: Everybody.

;''Question 4: Who should decide whether someone is faking or not?''
Preliminary answer: The community.  It would be good to have an knowlegable person who asks the questions, and the community can see if the scholar in question can support himself.  But it may not be entirely necessary.  Anybody can ask for clarification.

;''Question 5: What if there is a dispute in the result of the scrutiny?''
Answer: I do not know.

;''Question 6: How can we guarentee the quality of the studies?''
Answer: The publication is reviewed.  If nobody within Wikiversity is competent enough to review the report, then the scholar should go outside of Wikiversity to publish.

;''Question 7: What if some good scholar who holds a minority view is mercilessly attacked?''
Answer: No personal attacks, of course.  But he may become tired of answering even objective questions and decide to leave.  I do not know.

;''Question 8:...''
Answer:  If Wikiversity is ever to succeed at all, it should consist of and should attract intelligent thinkers, who can think independently, who would take time to understand, who can tell what is good from what is bad, and some who can also explain it to other people,....

;''Question 9:How can one tell a good scholar from a bad scholar?''
Answer: I do not know.  We must put our trust in the community for that - if Wikiversity is ever going to work.  After all, we come here to learn.

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;ウィキバーシティーとはなんですか?
&lt;!--;What is Wikiversity?--&gt;
:ウィキバーシティーは、オンラインでの学習を支援するためにウィキの力を使うことを探求する、新しいウィキメディアプロジェクト&lt;ref&gt;理事会決議: [[wikimedia:Resolution Wikiversity]]&lt;/ref&gt;です。この新しいプロジェクトは、始めてから半年間、ベータの段階に置かれます。&lt;ref&gt;Anthereのウィキバーシティーについてのメール: http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2006-August/009074.html&lt;/ref&gt;
&lt;!--
:Wikiversity is a new Wikimedia project&lt;ref&gt;Board resolution: [[wikimedia:Resolution Wikiversity]]&lt;/ref&gt; exploring ways to use the power of wiki to support online learning. This new project will be in beta phase during the first six months&lt;ref&gt;Anthere's mail about Wikiversity: http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2006-August/009074.html&lt;/ref&gt;.--&gt;

;ウィキバーシティー・ベータとはなんですか?
&lt;!--;What is Wikiversity Beta?--&gt;
:ウィキバーシティー・ベータは、いくつかの言語でウィキバーシティープロジェクトを調整することを目指す国際的な討論の場です。この他言語の協同作業は、ウィキバーシティーの使命とプロジェクトの範囲の基本方針（たとえば、独自研究）を論ずることを目指しています。ウィキバーシティー・ベータはまた、まだサブドメインを持っていないウィキバーシティープロジェクトを開発することができる場所でもあります。
:要するに、ウィキバーシティー・ベータは、ウィキバーシティープロジェクトのためのメタ・ウィキとインキュベーターの両方に当たるのです。
&lt;!--:Wikiversity Beta is a global platform aiming at coordinating Wikiversity projects in several languages. This multilingual coordination intends to deal with Wikiversity's mission and general guidelines of the project's scope (for example, about original research). Wikiversity Beta is also a place where Wikiversity projects which don't have a subdomain yet can develop.
:In a nutshell, Wikiversity Beta is both a meta-wiki and an incubator for Wikiversity projects.--&gt;


;How is it possible to have so many languages coexisting on Beta without it becoming a mess?
:Wikiversity Beta intends to take advantage of the input of its many participants (not only English-speakers). Multilingual discussions should not only coexist, but live in symbiosis. A [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/En|multilingual discussion system]] has been proposed to manage them so non-English speakers can take part in discussions. Moreover, Beta is using the ''[[Wikiversity:Language select/En|Language select]]'' feature developped on Meta, which allows users to hide foreign languages on multilingual pages.


;What about separate Wikiversity projects which already have their own subdomain?
:Those [[Wikiversity:Separate projects|separate projects]] are growing their way. However, their participants are strongly encouraged to take part into discussions about general guidelines that will apply to all Wikiversity projects. Moreover, they are encouraged to post [[Wikiversity:Reports/En|reports]] about their projects to let everybody know about how it grows.


;What's next?
:Now we need people to take part in the discussions on Wikiversity Beta. People from existing separate projects and people willing to contribute to a future separate project should join the discussions and work together. People who do not speak English are encouraged to take part in discussions but we also need volunteer translators to translate the talk summaries.


;Your multilingual system will never work. It requires too many translators.
:If people really sum up their discussions, not only this will help them to focus on important things but it will not take much time to translate them. Ten days after Beta opening, its main page is already available in five languages. 
:By the way, it is just a proposal. Hey, if everybody speaks english, very well, we won't have anything to translate. If the system does not work, at least we can say we tried.


;For a coordination project, it would be much more practical if a single language of discussion is chosen.
:Of course it would be more practical; the question is: should we manage Beta the way that is easier for us English speakers or should we manage it the way everybody can take part in discussions about guidelines that will apply to all projects?


;Wikiversity Beta Motto?
:The shorter, the better. If you want your ideas to reach people speaking other languages, write short and understandable summaries. 


;What does Wikiversity Beta offer over Meta?
:Wikiversity Beta formulate new (within Wikimedia Foundation projects) research policies for wikiversity.
:Wikiversity Beta attempts to be a multi-lingual discussion platform.

;Why do we need a Wikiversity Beta instead of using the Wikimedia Incubator?
:


;What about Wikiversity projects that are currently on Wikibooks, including non-English versions of Wikiversity?
:


;What is the sense behind splitting Wikiversity up into various separated language Wikies? Would it not be better to create courses and research reports in a multilingual environment such as Beta and have them translated in as many langages as translators see fit when new pages and documents become available?
:


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      <text xml:space="preserve">Olá Abmac, veja em [[:category:PT]] as páginas em português. --[[User:Slade|Slade]] &lt;sup&gt;[[m:User:Slade|meta]]&lt;/sup&gt; 03:14, 22 December 2006 (UTC)</text>
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Diese Seite ist ein veränderter Vorschlag für die '''[[Wikiversity]]''', damit sie ein Schwester-Projekt für die [[Wikimedia Foundation]] wird. Der erste Abschnitt der Seite ([[Wikiversity:Approved_Wikiversity_project_proposal/De#Historisches_Review_des_Wikiversity_Projektes|&quot;Historisches Review des Wikiversity Projektes&quot;]]) enthält eine Beschreibung, wie der Original Wikiversity Projekt-Vorschlag erstellt wurde. Der veränderte Antrag befindet sich im [[#Mission|2. Teil: &quot;Mission&quot;]].

==Historisches Review des Wikiversity Projektes==
[[b:Wikiversity|Wikiversity]] wurde im August 2005 von Wikibooks [[b:Wikibooks:Votes for deletion/Wikiversity|zur Löschung vorgeschlagen]]. Bald danach gab es einen [[Proposals for new projects#Wikiversity|Vorschlag]], um aus Wikiversity ein unabhängiges WikiMedia Projekt zu erstellen. Zusätzlich zu der Information auf den vorgeschlagenen Projektseiten gab es in einem [http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2005-August/003857.html Mailinglisten-Posting] Information über den ursprünglichen Vorschlag und auf der [[Wikiversity|Wikiversity Seite]] des WikiMedia meta-wiki. 

Ein alter Antrag und die Diskussion kann hier betrachtet werden: [[Wikiversity:Original proposal|Wikiversity Original Antrag]].


Ein '''veränderter Projektantrag''' folgt nun ('''Teil 2''').

== Mission ==
'''''Wikiversity ist ein Zentrum für die Schaffung und den Gebrauch von freien Lernmaterialien und -Aktivitäten.''''' Die primären Prioritäten und Ziele hierbei sind:

*Erstellung und Bereitstellung einer Palette von mehrsprachigen Materialien/Ressourcen mit freiem Inhalt für alle Altersgruppen
*Bereitstellung wissenschaftlicher/Lern-Projekte und Gemeinschaften, die diese Materialien aufrechterhalten
*Ergänzen und Entwickeln von existierenden Wikimedia Projekten (z.B. ein Projekt, das sich der Suche nach guten Quellen für Wikipedia Artikel widmet)

Weitere Information unter [[Wikiversity:Scope|Wikiversity:Wirkungsbereich]] und [[Wikiversity:Online Course|Wikiversity:Online Kurs]]. Zur Erfüllung der Mission können andere Aufgaben und Ziele durch Teilnehmer initiiert und entwickelt werden, um das Lernen und die Erstellung von neuen Inhalten zu unterstützen. Während der Beta-Phase der Wikiversity-Entstehung werden vor Allem Leitfäden entwickelt, die sich mit der Bereitstellung und Pflege der ''Forschung'' beschäftigen - basierend zum Teil auf vorhandenen Ressourcen in der Wikiversity und anderen Wikimedia Projekten.

==Lernen==
'''Das Wikiversity e-Learning Modell'''. Existierende &quot;nicht-virtuelle&quot; Universitäten begannen als Treffpunkte für gelehrte Individuelle, die nach Wissen suchen und Experten auf einem Gebiet, die als Lehrer agieren, um den Lernprozess zu führen. Wikiversity wird ein virtueller Treffpunkt für Experten und Gebildete sein, ein Wiki, welches eine flexible Online-Lernumgebung bereitstellt und fördert.

Konventionelle Universitäten entwickelten sich zu Stätten mit Unterrichtsräumen, einer Sammlung von Kursen, Noten, Gebühren für Studenten, Bezahlung für Lehrer, Vergabe von Abschlüssen, Zertifizierung von Lehrern und Akkreditierung von Universitäten. Diese gesamte Struktur entstand, da es der Konzentration der teuren Ressourcen (Menschen und Gebäude) an einer bestimmten Stelle in der physikalischen Welt bedurfte. Das Wikiversity e-Learning Modell gibt alle Aspekte konventioneller Universitäten auf, die entstanden, weil man Personen und Gebäude an einem Ort und einer Zeit fokussieren musste. Das Wikiversity e-Learning Modell wächst aus der Kraft der Umgebung der Wiki-Benutzer, um das Lernen von konventionellen Einschränkungen in Zeit und Ort zu befreien. Mehr Information unter [[Wikiversity:Learning|Wikiversity:Lernen]].

===Lerngruppen===
Es ist nur natürlich für das Wiki-Format &quot;[[Learning community|Lerngruppen]]&quot; (Erstellen und Erhalten von Lernpfaden; Interessen-Portalen, Projekte oder Aufgaben Artefakte) zu entwickeln, wo alle Beteiligten gemeinschaftlich diskutieren und lernen können. Diese Gruppen/Gemeinschaften werden Anlaufstellen, Betreuungsteams, kollegiale Gruppen, Debattenklubs sein - praktische Anwendungen könnten z.B. sein: für Wikipedia Forschung betreiben oder für MediaWiki Programme schreiben. Das ist gleichrangiges Lernen (Peer-Lernen), Lernen durch Zusammenarbeit und Diskussion - der &quot;Wiki Weg&quot;.

Wikiversity Teilnehmer werden aktiv an Online Lern-Projekten teilnehmen. Wie auch bei jedem Wiki beinhaltet die Community-Teilnahme das Editieren von Wiki-Seiten. Wikiversity Lern-Projekte werden aus Sammlungen von Wiki Webseiten    bestehen, die sich mit der wissenschaftlichen Untersuchung eines bestimmten Themas befassen. Einige Wikiversity Lern-Projekte werden sich um die Anforderungen anderer Wikimedia Projekte kümmern. Z.B. kann sich eine Gruppe von Wikiversity-Teilnehmern in einem Projekt engagieren, um gute Quellen für einen vorhandenen Wikipedia Artikel zu suchen. Ein anderes Wikiversity Projekt könnte sich mit der Untersuchung einer etablierten akademischen Disziplin befassen und die Teilnehmer könnten sich entscheiden, gemeinsam Material zu sammeln, um ein Wikibooks Textbuch für dieses Thema zu erstellen. Aus diesem Grund wird Wikiversity eine natürliche Ergänzung für existierende Wikimedia Projekte, indem es eine Umgebung schafft, die wissenschaftliche “Sekundärforschung“ (“secondary research”) unterstützt und fördert. Wikiversity wird mit einer Tendenz zu Gunsten von Lern-Projekten starten, die Unterstützung für existierende Wikimedia Projekte bieten - aber mit der Zeit wird sich Wikiversity soweit entwicklen, dass es den Anforderungen seiner Community dient. Studenten werden ihren Lernbedarf ausdrücken und die Wikiversity Community wird Lern-Aktivitäten und -Projekte entwickeln, um diesen Anforderungen entgegen zu kommen. Einige Gruppen können didaktisch vorgehen - es gibt genug Platz für Materialien, die als Instruktionen oder Aufgaben angelegt werden können. Auf jeden Fall werden sich Communities um die Materialien kümmern, um die laufende Benutzung und Entwicklung des Inhalts sicherzustellen, den die Wikiversity beherbergt. Für mehr Infos siehe: [[Wikiversity:Learning|Lernen in der Wikiversity]] und  [[Wikiversity:Online_Course|mehr über Online Kurse]].

== Ressourcen ==
'''Ressourcen''' werden Unterrichtsmittel, Stunden-, Lehrpläne, Links, Lektürelisten usw. beinhalten. Jeder Themenbereich (oder 'Kurs', 'Projekt') - wirklich jede ''Community'' - erstellt ein Netz an Ressourcen, die die Basis für Diskussionen und Aktivitäten innerhalb dieses Gebiets der Wikiversity bildet. Dies kann dann von jedem anderen Erzieher für eigene Zwecke benutzt werden. Einige der Ressourcen werden mit anderen Wikimedia Projekten gekoppelt, wie z.B. Wikibooks und Wikipedia. Ein entscheidender Faktor für die Ressourcen sollte sein, dass sie für weitere Arbeit (Übungen/Diskussion/Nachdenken/Kritik usw.) anregen.

== Forschung ==
Wikiversity könnte als Quelle für Forschung agieren, die durch das [[meta:Wikimedia Research Network|meta:Wikimedia Forschungsnetzwerk]] durchgeführt wird oder anderen Personen involviert in wiki-basierter [[research|Forschung]]. Sie könnte auch die Tätigkeitsberichte der [[meta:Wikimania]] beherbergen. Ob Wikiversity überhaupt jemals Orginal-Forschung zu Sekundärforschung bereitstellt oder nicht, ist Thema von Debatten (siehe die [[Talk:Wikiversity/Modified project proposal|Diskussionsseite]]) - obwohl [[Primary research|Original-Forschung]] stattfinden könnte basierend auf Wikiversity-Materialien (z.B. Soziologie-Materialien regen ein Projekt zur Umfrageforschung an). Leitfäden, was angemessene Forschung sein würde, wird während der Beta-Phase des Projekts entwickelt - natürlich durch einen Prozess des Konsens der Gemeinschaft - und nach sechs Monaten reviewt (durch das [[meta:Special projects committee|meta: Komitee für Spezial-Projekte]]). Es wird nicht unbedingt ''immer'' eine &quot;Bewilligung&quot; der Forschung stattfinden - aber es sollte ein Review-Prozess etabliert werden, der sich mit potentiellen Problemen beschäftigt.

== Der Rahmen der Wikiversity ==
===[[Wikiversity:Scope|Was Wikiversity ist]]===
*'''Eine Ansammlung von freien, mehrsprachigen bildenden Ressourcen.'''
*'''Ein Netzwerk von Communities, um diese Ressourcen zu schaffen und zu benutzen.'''
*'''Eine Gruppenanstrengung, um zu lernen.''' Die von einem &quot;Lehrer&quot; geleitet werden kann oder nicht - diese Person kann ein Experte auf dem Gebiet sein oder nicht.

===[[Wikiversity:What Wikiversity is not|Was Wikiversity NICHT ist]]===
*'''Eine Verdoppelung/Abschrift von anderen Wikimedia Projekten''': Während Wikiversity andere Wikimedia Projekte ergänzt, wird es aber nicht einfach nur deren Inhalt verdoppeln. Also, wenn du über ein bestimmtes Thema lesen möchtest, kann es für dich besser sein, z.B. Wikipedia oder Wikibooks zu besuchen - aber wenn du über dieses Gebiet lernen möchtest, bist du auf der Wikiversity richtig. Lernmaterialien werden in der Wikiversity erstellt und benutzt, aber Materialien anderer Projekte können auch selbst als Lernmaterialien oder sogar Orte, um Lernen zu festigen, benutzt werden - z.B. einen Artikel manuell zu schreiben usw. - basierend auf dem, was du gelernt hast. Es kann Überschneidungen geben, aber jedes Projekt wird seinen eigenen Fokus behalten.
*'''Eine Institution, die Abschlüsse oder Titel vergibt''': Wikiversity verleiht weder Abschlüsse oder andere akademische Qualifikationen, noch wird es Personen berechtigen, sich selbst &quot;Professoren&quot; zu nennen, wenn Sie nicht Professoren sind.

Die Arbeit, die in der Wikiversity getätigt wird, wird hoffentlich nützlich für andere Projekte sein. Wenn Teilnehmer signifikante Ergebnisse erzielen, kann dies benutzt werden, um andere Wikimedia Projekte zu verbessern und gewiss auch andere Quellen von Online-Lernen, Referenzen und Daten.

Mehr dazu auf:  [[Wikiversity:What Wikiversity is not|Was Wikiversity nicht ist]] and [[Wikiversity:Scope|Wikiversity:Wirkungsbereich]].

==Features, die Wikiversity in der Zukunft benötigen wird/könnte==
* Metadata - es wird zur Zeit an einer Metadata-Korrektur gearbeitet, die nachträglich der Wikiversity hinzugefügt werden kann.
* Schutz von Seiten - es kann Bedarf bestehen, das Editieren von Seiten auf eine Gruppe von Personen einzuschränken (z.B. von einer Forschungsgemeinschaft). Jedoch muss dies mit Vorsicht durchgeführt werden, um den Ausschluss von Personen zu minimieren, an der Community mitzuwirken.
* Software - im Moment bedarf es keiner Software, um Wikiversity in Gang zu setzen. Aber Teilnehmer sind eingeladen, den Sourcecode zu vermehren, die der Wikiversity-Tätigkeit auf irgendeine Art helfen könnte. Implementierungen dieser Ideen müssen natürlich über die entsprechenden Kanäle durchgeführt werden (wahrscheinlich das [[Special projects committee|Komitee für Spezial-Projekte]]).

==Weitere Diskussion==
Es gab einige Diskussion, wie man die Anforderungen des Boards, den Original Wikiversity-Antrag zu modifizieren, zufriedenstellen könnte. Dies kann auf folgenden (und den verlinkten) Seiten betrachtet werden:
*[[meta:Talk:Wikiversity/Archive 3#Current status|meta:Diskussion:Wikiversity/Archiv 3#aktueller Status]]
*[[meta:Moving Wikiversity forward|meta:Wikiversity vorwärts bringen]]
*[[b:Talk:Wikiversity#Decision on Wikiversity?|b:Diskussion:Wikiversity#Entscheidung über die Wikiversity?]]

Bitte füge zusätzliche Diskussion für Modifikationen am Wikiversity-Antrag auf die [[Talk:Wikiversity/Modified project proposal|Diskussionsseite]].

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      <comment>/* German Wikiversity-Projektinkubator (english: project incubator) */ it is available now also in English</comment>
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Hi, I am doing the translation now - this is just translation. After finishing, I will review it for good sentencing + spelling errors :-) ----[[User:Erkan_Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] ([http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Erkan_Yilmaz/Bewertung &lt;small&gt;evaluate me!&lt;/small&gt;], [[User_talk:Erkan_Yilmaz|&lt;small&gt;discussion&lt;/small&gt;]]) 02:24, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
:done ----[[User:Erkan_Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] ([http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Erkan_Yilmaz/Bewertung &lt;small&gt;evaluate me!&lt;/small&gt;], [[User_talk:Erkan_Yilmaz|&lt;small&gt;discussion&lt;/small&gt;]]) 12:56, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

==about degrees, exams in Wikiversity==
See [http://de.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=Diskussion:Hauptseite&amp;oldid=2446#5._Abschl.C3.BCsse here] for a discussion in German Wikiversity on this subject. ----[[User:Erkan_Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] ([http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Erkan_Yilmaz/Bewertung &lt;small&gt;evaluate me!&lt;/small&gt;], [[User_talk:Erkan_Yilmaz|&lt;small&gt;discussion&lt;/small&gt;]]) 23:37, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
*(Danke.)--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|書]] 15:49, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
::Well, it has advantages of wandering between worlds :-) ----[[User:Erkan_Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] ([http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Erkan_Yilmaz/Bewertung &lt;small&gt;evaluate me!&lt;/small&gt;], [[User_talk:Erkan_Yilmaz|&lt;small&gt;discussion&lt;/small&gt;]]) 18:22, 16 January 2007 (UTC)


==German Wikiversity-Projektinkubator (english: project incubator)==
I do find this idea of the [[:de:Interdisziplinäres Zentrum Kooperationsforschung|Interdisziplinäres Zentrum Kooperationsforschung (english: interdisciplinary centre for reserach for cooperation)]] very good:

it is the [[:de:Wikiversity:Projektinkubator|projekt incubator]]: projects are like babies at the beginning, they need special attention to develop. People can bring their babies/projects to this place, so everybody gives their ideas, feeds it with their input, to create a good project. So far no translation exists, but in a free minute perhaps this can be done.
[[Image:Inkubator.png]] ----[[User:Erkan_Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] ([http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Erkan_Yilmaz/Bewertung &lt;small&gt;evaluate me!&lt;/small&gt;], [[User_talk:Erkan_Yilmaz|&lt;small&gt;discussion&lt;/small&gt;]]) 16:07, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
:You can find the translated page now also in the [[en:Wikiversity:Project_incubator|English Wikiversity]]. ----[[User:Erkan_Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] ([http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Erkan_Yilmaz/Bewertung &lt;small&gt;evaluate me!&lt;/small&gt;], [[User_talk:Erkan_Yilmaz|&lt;small&gt;discussion&lt;/small&gt;]]) 19:59, 21 January 2007 (UTC)</text>
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[[Image:P culture.png|right|69px|Humanities]]
&lt;font face=&quot;tahoma&quot;&gt;'''歡迎蒞臨 Wikiversity 的人文學院'''&lt;/font&gt;

&lt;font face=&quot;tahoma&quot;&gt;本學院有10個主要院系(Schools): [[School:美術設計|美術設計系]] · [[School:古典學|古典學系]] · [[School:比較神話學|比較神話學系]] · [[School:法學|法學系]] · [[School:語言文學|語言文學系]] · [[School:音樂|音樂系]] · [[School:哲學|哲學系]] · [[School:宗教|宗教系]]· [[School:國學|國學系]]· [[School:中國術數|中國術數系]] &lt;/font&gt;

&lt;font face=&quot;tahoma&quot;&gt;懇請參加者開發[[:en:Portal:Learning Materials|學習資源]]與[[:en:Portal:Learning Projects|學習計劃]], 並協助組織本院.&lt;/font&gt;

&lt;font face=&quot;tahoma&quot;&gt;或者你會同樣對[[Portal:社會科學|社會科學院]]有興趣.&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

&lt;div style=&quot;background:#ccccff; text-align:center&quot;&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;font-size:120%; color:#000&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;charlesworth&quot;&gt;美術設計&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin-bottom:.7em; padding:.5em; text-align:left; font-weight:normal; font-size:100%; background:#white; border:1px solid #ccccff&quot;&gt;
[[Image:P art.png|44px|left|Art and Design]]
&lt;font face=&quot;tahoma&quot;&gt;在 '''[[School:美術設計|美術設計系]]''' 裡，你可以在分享你對藝術、藝術歷史、設計以及各種相關知識和心得&lt;br /&gt;
部門：[[Topic:藝術理論及歷史]]、[[Topic:戲劇寫作]]、[[Topic:時裝設計]]、[[Topic:影視藝術]]、[[Topic:表演藝術]]、[[Topic:視覺藝術]]&lt;/font&gt;

&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

&lt;div style=&quot;background:#ccccff; text-align:center&quot;&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;font-size:120%; color:#000&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;charlesworth&quot;&gt;古典學&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin-bottom:.7em; padding:.5em; text-align:left; font-weight:normal; font-size:100%; background:#white; border:1px solid #ccccff&quot;&gt;
[[Image:P parthenon.svg|44px|right|Classics]]
&lt;font face=&quot;tahoma&quot;&gt;The '''[[School:古典學]]''' 存放關於古希臘與古羅馬文化的知識。&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

&lt;div style=&quot;background:#ccccff; text-align:center&quot;&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;font-size:120%; color:#000&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;charlesworth&quot;&gt;比較神話學&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin-bottom:.7em; padding:.5em; text-align:left; font-weight:normal; font-size:100%; background:#white; border:1px solid #ccccff&quot;&gt;
[[Image:P history.png|44px|left|Comparative Mythology]]
&lt;font face=&quot;tahoma&quot;&gt;In the '''[[School:比較神話學]]''' 神話是原始人類的產品，往往蘊含哲理。不同文化的神話故事有似有異，到底每一個神話以及神話背後對文化和歷史發展有甚麼意義？歡迎大家在這裡分享和發表對神話的研究心得&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

&lt;div style=&quot;background:#ccccff; text-align:center&quot;&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;font-size:120%; color:#000&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;charlesworth&quot;&gt;語言文學&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin-bottom:.7em; padding:.5em; text-align:left; font-weight:normal; font-size:100%; background:#white; border:1px solid #ccccff&quot;&gt;
[[Image:P writing.svg|44px|right|Language and Literature]]
&lt;font face=&quot;tahoma&quot;&gt;One of our oldest and most prominent schools, '''[[School:語言文學]]''' is the right place for those who want to learn a foreign language or explore the wonderful world of books. The school also provides several specialized centres, such as the ''[[Portal:Writing Center|Writing Centre]]''.&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

&lt;div style=&quot;background:#ccccff; text-align:center&quot;&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;font-size:120%; color:#000&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;charlesworth&quot;&gt;法學&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin-bottom:.7em; padding:.5em; text-align:left; font-weight:normal; font-size:100%; background:#white; border:1px solid #ccccff&quot;&gt;
[[Image:Derecho-icon.png|33px|left|Law]]
&lt;font face=&quot;tahoma&quot;&gt;在'''[[School:法學]]''' 內，會探索有關法律之哲學、歷史源流和演變等知識&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

&lt;div style=&quot;background:#ccccff; text-align:center&quot;&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;font-size:120%; color:#000&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;charlesworth&quot;&gt;音樂&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin-bottom:.7em; padding:.5em; text-align:left; font-weight:normal; font-size:100%; background:#white; border:1px solid #ccccff&quot;&gt;
[[Image:P treble clef.svg|44px|right|Music]]
&lt;font face=&quot;tahoma&quot;&gt;The '''[[School:音樂]]''' deals with, as many people agree, one of the most important and most beautiful aspects of the human civilization. Includes ''[[Topic:Music in Film|Music in Film]]'' for creating music for motion pictures.&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

&lt;div style=&quot;background:#ccccff; text-align:center&quot;&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;font-size:120%; color:#000&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;charlesworth&quot;&gt;哲學 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin-bottom:.7em; padding:.5em; text-align:left; font-weight:normal; font-size:100%; background:#white; border:1px solid #ccccff&quot;&gt;
[[Image:P philosophy.png|33px|left|Philosophy]]
&lt;font face=&quot;tahoma&quot;&gt;'''[[School:哲學 ]]''' 神、世界、知識、邏輯、思想，你有甚麼見解？&lt;br /&gt;
部門：[[Topic:中國哲學]]、[[Topic:西方哲學]]、[[Topic:印度哲學]]、[[Topic:邏輯學]]&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

&lt;div style=&quot;background:#ccccff; text-align:center&quot;&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;font-size:120%; color:#000&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;charlesworth&quot;&gt;宗敎&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin-bottom:.7em; padding:.5em; text-align:left; font-weight:normal; font-size:100%; background:#white; border:1px solid #ccccff&quot;&gt;
[[Image:P religion.png|44px|right|Theology]]
&lt;font face=&quot;tahoma&quot;&gt;在 '''[[School:宗敎]]''' 內，你可以認識各不同宗教，分享對不同宗教思想、源流、影響等見解，也可以作宗教比較研究。&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

&lt;div style=&quot;background:#ccccff; text-align:center&quot;&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;font-size:120%; color:#000&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;charlesworth&quot;&gt;國學&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin-bottom:.7em; padding:.5em; text-align:left; font-weight:normal; font-size:100%; background:#white; border:1px solid #ccccff&quot;&gt;
&lt;font face=&quot;tahoma&quot;&gt;'''[[School:國學]]''' 古代中國文化的知識。&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

&lt;div style=&quot;background:#ccccff; text-align:center&quot;&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;font-size:120%; color:#000&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;charlesworth&quot;&gt;中國術數&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin-bottom:.7em; padding:.5em; text-align:left; font-weight:normal; font-size:100%; background:#white; border:1px solid #ccccff&quot;&gt;
&lt;font face=&quot;tahoma&quot;&gt;'''[[School:中國術數]]''' 一命二運三風水，術數是中國獨有之學術，你有甚麼見解和心得？&lt;br /&gt;
部門：[[Topic:風水]]、[[Topic:命理]]、[[Topic:掌相]]&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

&lt;div style=&quot;display:block;float:left;width:100%;&quot;&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;display:block;border:1px solid #aaaaaa;vertical-align: top; background-color:#f9f9ff;margin-bottom:10px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;padding-right:4px;&quot;&gt;
&lt;h2 style=&quot;padding:3px; background:#aaccff; color:#000; text-align:center; font-weight:bold; font-size:100%; margin-bottom:5px;margin-top:0;margin-left:-5px;margin-right:-4px;&quot;&gt;Useful textbooks from [[b:|Wikibooks]]&lt;/h2 &gt;
{|
|style=&quot;width:40%;font-size:95%;color:#000&quot;|
*[[b:Wikibooks:Humanities bookshelf|Humanities bookshelf]]
*[[b:Wikibooks:Arts bookshelf|Arts bookshelf]]
*[[b:Wikibooks:Social sciences bookshelf|Social sciences bookshelf]]
|style=&quot;width:50%;font-size:95%&quot;|
*[[b:Wikibooks:History bookshelf|History bookshelf]]
*[[b:Wikibooks:Language and literature bookshelf|Language and literature bookshelf]]
*[[b:Wikibooks:Law bookshelf|Law bookshelf]]
|style=&quot;width:10%;font-size:95%&quot;|
[[Image:Nuvola apps bookcase.png|center|50px|Reading]]
|}
&lt;/div &gt;
&lt;/div &gt;

&lt;div style=&quot;display:block;float:left;width:100%;&quot;&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;display:block;border:1px solid #aaaaaa;vertical-align: top; background-color:#f9f9ff;margin-bottom:10px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;padding-right:4px;&quot;&gt;
&lt;h2 style=&quot;padding:3px; background:#aaccff; color:#000; text-align:center; font-weight:bold; font-size:100%; margin-bottom:5px;margin-top:0;margin-left:-5px;margin-right:-4px;&quot;&gt;Associated Wikimedia for humanities&lt;/h2 &gt;
{| class=&quot;noprint&quot; align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;clear:both; background: transparent; text-align:center; font-size:91%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;3&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; rules=&quot;none&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;
|'''[[Wikipedia:Humanities|Humanities on Wikipedia]]''' &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;
|'''[[Wikinews:Humanities|Humanities on Wikinews]]''' &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;
|'''[[Wikiquote:Humanities|Humanities on Wikiquote]]''' &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;
|'''[[Wikibooks:Humanities|Humanities on Wikibooks]]''' &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;
|'''[[Wikisource:Humanities|Humanities on Wikisource]]''' &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;
|'''[[Wiktionary:Humanities|Humanities on Wiktionary]]'''
|}
&lt;/div &gt;
&lt;/div &gt;
&lt;br /&gt;

== 參見 ==
*[[:en:w:Portal:Humanities]]

[[Category:ZH]]
[[en:Portal:Humanities]]</text>
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    <title>Portal:社會科學</title>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;small&gt; &lt;[[首頁]]
&lt;center&gt;&lt;big&gt;歡迎蒞臨 Wikiversity 的 社會科學院!&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/center&gt;
&lt;center&gt;[[Portal:社會科學]]&lt;/center&gt;
&lt;center&gt; - [[School:人類學|人類學系]] - [[School:心理學|心理學系]] - [[School:政治|政治學系]] - [[School:社會學|社會學系]] - [[School:歷史系|歷史學系]] - [[School:法律系|法律系]] -  [[School:經濟系|經濟系]] - [[School:傳理系|傳理系]] - [[School:工商管理系|工商管理系]] - [[School:兩性關係與性別研究|兩性關係與性別研究]] - &lt;/center&gt;


懇請參加者開發[[:en:Portal:Learning Materials|學習資源]]與[[:en:Portal:Learning Projects|學習計劃]], 並協助組織本院.

==院系(Schools)、與部門 (departments and divisions)==
院系
*[[School:人類學]]

*[[School:心理學]]

*[[School:政治學]]
: 部：[[Topic:政治理論]]、[[Topic:政治制度]]、[[Topic:國際關係]]

*[[School:社會學]]
: 部：[[Topic:社工]]

*[[School:歷史系]]
: 部：[[Topic:中國歷史]]、[[Topic:西方歷史]]、[[Topic:思想史]]

*[[School:法律系]](法律之實際應用、案例研究等)

*[[School:經濟系]]

*[[School:傳理系]]

*[[School:地理系]]
: 部：[[Topic:自然地理學]]、[[Topic:人文地理學]]

*[[School:工商管理系]]

*[[School:兩性關係與性別研究]]

==主名空間內容的組織:==
&lt;small&gt;(參見 [[Wikiversity:架構]])&lt;/small&gt;
*'''概念:''' 院 -&gt; 系-&gt; 部/研究主題  -&gt; 課 
*'''名空間: '''Portal:- &gt; School:- &gt; Topic:- &gt; 主空間(無標題)

==參與者==

==院訊 ==


== 參見 ==
*[[:en:w:Portal:Social Sciences]]

[[Category:ZH]]
[[en:Portal:Social Sciences]]</text>
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      <minor />
      <comment>insertar foto de feliz navidad</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;!--[[Image:Balls of glass.jpg|thumb|250px|Canicas de cristal]]--&gt;[[Image:FelizNavidad_ensRus.jpg|thumb|250px|Feliz Navidad]]
Uso el apodo canica en recuerdo de mi abuelo que es el que me lo sugirio hace muchos años.
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Puedes dejarme tus mensajes en mi página de discusión.</text>
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      <comment>Que es eso???</comment>
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*Que es eso???--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|書]] 21:59, 27 December 2006 (UTC)</text>
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      <comment>/* Wikis benutzen */ corrected link to user-page, see also ENGLISH discussion page here for comments of user</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Wikiversity:Scope}}
{{Wikiversity}}

Im Gegensatz zu einer echten Universität ist Wikiversity anders, aber es besitzt Ähnlichkeiten. Es hat auch Überschneidungen mit anderen Wikimedia Projekten, aber diese Überschneidungen sollten sich in synergetische Vorteile verwandeln und nicht Wettbewerb. Der Zweck dieser Seite ist es, ein allgemeines Dokument für den Bereich zu erzeugen &amp;mdash; analog zu: &quot;Was ist Wikiversity?&quot;.

= Universitäten und Institutionen zum Lernen=
Eine Universität ist traditionellerweise ein Ort, an dem sich interessierte Personen zusammenfinden: für eine Ausbildung, für Forschung und um Abschlüsse zu erlangen.

== Ausbildung ==
Die Ausbildung beinhaltet die Dualität von Lehren und Lernen. Jeder dieser Aspekte sollte individuell gehandhabt werden.

=== Lehren ===
Die Wikiversity sollte einmal zu einer Ausgangsquelle für akkurate Lehrmaterialien werden, wie Bibliographien, Lehrpläne, effektive Animationen, gut ausgearbeitete Veröffentlichungen, Ideen für Aufgaben zu Hause und in der Klasse, Diskussionsthemen, Kursmaterialien usw. Genauso muss es auch eine Zentrale werden für neu entstehende Lehrmethoden und Lerntechnologien. Lehrer, die Wikiversity-Material benutzen, werden aufgefordert, diese Materialien kontinuierlich zu kommentieren und anzupassen, um die Ressourcen der Wikiversity zu verfeinern und zu optimieren.

=== Lernen ===
Menschen können immer lernen, aber sollte die Wikiversity komplette Kurse anbieten?

[[w:de:Benutzer_Diskussion:WiseWoman|WiseWoman]] sieht keinen Grund, der dagegen spricht. Die Wikiversity wird nicht in der Lage sein, die Betreuung von individuellen Lektionen zu organisieren, aber es gibt keinen Grund, wieso nicht einzelne Lektionen - oder eigentlich ganze Kurse - der Community zur Verfügung gestellt werden - natürlich mit entsprechenden Lizenzen. Mehr dazu unter [[Wikiversity:Online Course|Online Kurs]].

Für eine Wiki wären komplette Kurse möglich, aber es gibt Grenzen für die Wiki-Benutzerumgebung, die es erschweren können, Online-Teilnehmer für konventionelle Kurse anzuziehen und zu behalten. Konventionelle Kurse involvieren normalerweise die Konzentration von Ausbildern, Lernenden und Lernmaterialien in Raum und Zeit. Die virtuelle Lernumgebung der Wikiversity ist besser geeignet für flexible wiki-basierte Lernprojekte, die es Wikiversity-Teilnehmern erlauben, zu jeglicher Zeit zu kommen und zu gehen - eben auf übliche Wiki-Art. Eine fundamentale Organisationseinheit innerhalb der Wikiversity wird die [[Wikiversity:Learning#Learning groups|Lerngruppe]] sein.

== Forschung ==
Es werden gegenwärtig in Bezug auf Wikis zwei Haupt-Unterscheidungen auf dem Forschungsgebiet getroffen. Es gibt Forschung, die sich mit Wikis als Objekte der Untersuchung beschäftigen, zumindest die [[Research|Forschung über Wikis]], die schon auf der Wikimedia Metawiki existiert. Wikiversity ist definitiv offen für Anstrengungen, die diese Art von Forschung über Wikis unterstützt. Wikiversity-Teilnehmer werden sich routinemäßig mit allen Arten von Sekundärforschung ''(engl. secondary research)'' befassen, die auf kritische Evaluation von publizierten Informationsquellen gezielt ist. Es ist noch unklar, ob dies Teil der Wikiversity sein wird oder nicht. Wenn sich die Wikiversity Community entschliesst, Originalforschung zu unterstützen, wird ein geeigneter Satz an Richtlinien entwickelt werden müssen, um solche Forschungsaktivitäten zu unterstützen.

=== Über Wikis ===
Es gibt schon eine Vielzahl an Forschung über Wikis, die zusammen mit verschiedenen Institutionen durchgeführt wurde. Die [[meta:Wiki Research Bibliography|Wiki Forschungsbibliographie]] ist eine Bibliographie für wissenschaftliche Publikationen und Quellen über Wikis im Allgemeinen und Wikipedia im Besonderen. Ergänzungen hierzu sollten vorerst nicht erfolgen.

=== Wikis benutzen ===
Obwohl der Gebrauch der Wikis als Basis für Zusammenarbeit für Forschung in verschiedenen Bereichen unbestreitbar nützlich ist, drängt sich die Frage auf, inwieweit die Wikiversity tatsächlich entstehende Arbeiten ''(engl. work-in-progress)'' betreuen kann. [[w:de:Benutzer_Diskussion:WiseWoman|WiseWoman]] ist der Meinung, dass die Wikiversity reserviert werden sollte für ''completed research'' (bitte entsprechenden deutschen Begriff einfügen) &amp;mdash; jedoch sind Publikationen, die nirgendwo sonst publiziert wurden, hier Willkommen (natürlich nur, wenn sie als freie Lizenz vorliegen). Wiederum eine Idee für eine weitere Wikiversity-Aktivität könnt es sein, eine Forschung anzubieten über das Thema, wie man Lerngemeinschaften anbieten kann, Wikiversity-Materialien zu entwickeln, zu verändern und zu benutzen

== Erwerben von Abschlüssen ==
Um einen Abschluss zu erlangen, muss bei einer akkreditierten Organisation eine bestimmte Menge von credits erworben werden. D.h. ein Gremium von Experten muss bestimmen, dass das Programm und der Unterrichtsinhalt sinnvoll zum Kontext des verliehenen Abschlusses passen.

'''Wikiversity ist keine Institution, die Abschlüsse vergibt''', obwohl die verfügbaren Wikiversity-Materialien definitiv durch Studenten und Auszubildende bei akkreditierten Institutionen benutzt werden können als Basis für die teilweise Erfüllung von Prüfungsanfoderungen für einen akkreditierten Kurs.

===Was Wikiversity nicht ist===
* Wir betreiben keine traditionellen Kurse
* Wir vergeben keine Abschlüsse
* Wir wollen keine Akkreditierung

== Digitale Bibliotheken ==
Die Wikiversity kann einen kommentierten Guide zu verschiedenen digitalen Bibliotheken anbieten. Aber wir bitten keine eigene Bibliothek an.

=Wikimedia Projekte=
Wikiversity versucht, andere Wikimedia Projekte zu ergänzen, indem sie zu deren Inhalt beiträgt und als eine Ressource für deren Communities beiträgt. Allerdings wird Wikiversity nicht versuchen, deren Materialien zu duplizieren.

==Wikibooks==
Wikibooks ist ein Lager für Textbücher, die spezielle, bildende Ressourcen sind, die aber letztendlich entwickelt werden, um ''Bücher'' zu sein. 

Wikiversity wird Bildungsinhalte über ähnliche Themen anbieten, aber Ziel ist es, multimediale Lernressourcen zu betreuen und zu erschaffen, die flexibel, in verschiedenen Kontexten, entweder als Standard-Ressourcen für Lehrer in Klassen oder als Stichworte/Aufforderungen ''(engl. prompts)'' für Teamarbeit benutzt werden können &amp;mdash; unabhängig ob in der Wikiversity oder in anderen Wikimedia Projekten (z.B. über akademisches versus nichtfachmännisches Schreiben von Wikipedia-Artikeln). Dies beinhaltet Dinge wie Kurspläne, Skripten, Vortragsfolien, Speicherkarten, Höraufgaben ''(engl. listening exercises)'', Bildungsvideos (innerhalb akzeptabler Bandbreiten).

==Wikisource==
Bei der Wikisource geht es um die Betreuung von Materialien, die freie Inhalte sind, also ohne Copyright. Diese Art von Materialien sollten bei der Wikisource verbleiben, könnten aber - zusammen mit anderem Wikimedia Inhalt - benutzt werden, um Materialien auf der Wikiversity zu ergänzen. (Es könnte natürlich auch eine Art von Kurs/Materialien auf der Wikiversity selbst geben über Copyright oder über Lizenz-Angelegenheiten. Dies könnte das Bewusstsein dieser Kernkomponente von Wikimedia Projekten erhöhen.)

==Commons==
Wie angemerkt, ist Wikiversity für multimediale Lern-Ressourcen (z.B. Video, Sound, Graphiken, Text), was auch auf Commons beherbergt werden könnte. Aber wenn sie speziell für den Bildungszweck entwickelt wurden, wäre es wahrscheinlich besser, sie auf der Wikiversity unterzubringen.

==Weitere==
Andere Wikimedia Projekte, Wikipedia, Wiktionary, Wikiquote und Wikispecies, haben sehr eindeutige Ziele, die sich überhaupt nicht mit denen der Wikiversity überschneiden. Jedoch wird Wikiversity versuchen, für jede/alle dieser Projekte von Nutzen zu sein &amp;mdash; z.B. indem es Ressourcen, Methoden und Communities entwickelt, um Wikipedia Artikel/Grafiken usw. zu verbessern. Oder Information über Tier-/Pflanzen-Taxonomien entwickelt oder natürlich Anstrengungen, um Projekte zu übersetzen.

==Wikicommunity oder Communitas==
Bitte lese [[Meta:Talk:Communitas#A Communitas example instance: The Perl Wiki in Wikia]]

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==[[Wikiversity:Scope/En#Learning|topic Learning]]==
Hi, in the chapters [[Wikiversity:Scope/En#Learning|topic Learning]] and [[Wikiversity:Scope/En#Using_wikis]] there is mentioned a user &quot;WiseWoman&quot;. I assumed now this is [[:en:User:WiseWoman|this ]] user from English Wikiversity, correct? Anyway, when we referrence a single user in article, this is not so appropriate, we should generalize more. OK? I will contact the user and hope (s)he can clarify the issue. ----[[User:Erkan_Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] ([http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Erkan_Yilmaz/Bewertung &lt;small&gt;evaluate me!&lt;/small&gt;], [[User_talk:Erkan_Yilmaz|&lt;small&gt;discussion&lt;/small&gt;]]) 16:56, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
:[[:en:User_talk:WiseWoman#are_you_this_person.2C_which_is_talked_about.3F|contacted]] - ----[[User:Erkan_Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] ([http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Erkan_Yilmaz/Bewertung &lt;small&gt;evaluate me!&lt;/small&gt;], [[User_talk:Erkan_Yilmaz|&lt;small&gt;discussion&lt;/small&gt;]]) 17:00, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

::The correct user was found. I copy-pasted the answer [[Wikiversity_talk:Scope/En#How_should_wikiversity_develop.3F|below]] (from [[w:Benutzer_Diskussion:WiseWoman#Wikiversity-Artikel|here]]), so that everyone can participate. ----[[User:Erkan_Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] ([http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Erkan_Yilmaz/Bewertung &lt;small&gt;evaluate me!&lt;/small&gt;], [[User_talk:Erkan_Yilmaz|&lt;small&gt;discussion&lt;/small&gt;]]) 19:15, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

== How should wikiversity develop? ==
Yup, that's me. That is I page I participated in on Meta, when we were discussing the Wikiversity. I am very disappointed in how the Wikivesity is turning out. We worked so hard to describe why we were NOT reinventing traditional universities, but going back to the old traditions of a university or academy being a place where people teach - learn - think - create - discuss topics. We just barely got started when an army of well-meaning but clueless people steamrolled the entire construction, setting up &quot;departments&quot; and &quot;faculties&quot; and &quot;curricula&quot; and &quot;suggested courses&quot; and setting up the &quot;one true way to do X&quot; when we were interested in having the MULTIPLICITY of views and materials collectd. Sigh. I do not have the energy to keep fighting the tide. I will go away and do was I was planning to so somewhere else and make a name that people do not understand to keep this folks out until it gets going. So many people who attend university do not really understand the point of a university education, which is to learn to think, not to get a degree or party or get a good job. The page you are referring to no longer makes sense when you look at what has evolved into the Wikiversity. So you can remove my name, or link to me, or call me the cynical old professor, or whatever. It's a Wiki. --[http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer_Diskussion:WiseWoman WiseWoman] 11:39, 29. Dez. 2006 (CET)
*Thank you.  It makes me think.  This is highly relevant for us.  And highly relevant for our people who are trying to start the zh:wikiversity.  I left a message at the Benutzer Diskussion of WiseWoman in de:wikipedia.--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|書]] 07:38, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
*I'm curious about what sort of steamrolling you were talking about here with Wikiversity?  While there may have been some heated discussion on Meta (and boy, they got heated at times), it is also important to remember that Wikiversity was also a very active sub-project of Wikibooks during the whole discussion period as well, where the concept of &quot;departments&quot;, &quot;faculty&quot;, and &quot;curricula&quot; were widely talked about and discussed.  In fact, it became widely integrated within much of the infrastructure of Wikibooks, including being added to much of the other content of Wikibooks with Wikibook textbooks being &quot;sponsored&quot; by Wikiversity departments (or more correctly termed being &quot;advertised&quot; on those Wikibooks, but that is another story).  The very first edit that I can find for Wikiversity on Wikibooks (deleted BTW, but it is still there), dated January 19th, 2004 (nearly 3 years ago) clearly had &quot;schools&quot; and &quot;courses&quot; as a part of its organization.  This was added on about the 10th edit of the main Wikiversity page on Wikibooks based on all of the page moves and everything that I can find.  The Wikiversity page forked a few times, so the exact order is a bit confusing.  If this isn't the history or the individuals you suspect as steamrolling everything, I don't what you are talking about.&lt;p&gt;I do agree that there may be more than one way to approach Wikiversity as a philosophy, but unfortunately there are many people who have &quot;grown up&quot; in the traditional university system to avoid having all of that approach completely filtered out.  Some very radical ideas about Wikiversity certainly have evolved over the years, and I hope that at least some of your ideas do get incorporated.  --[[User:Robert Horning|Robert Horning]] 12:09, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

**Many people can only think as far as this: &quot;let's copy the structure of a conventional university into a set of wiki pages and create a free online university&quot;. However, that approach to developing the Wikiversity project was blocked by the Board of Trustees. Yes, Wikiversity now has many content development projects that correspond to conventional academic subject areas and editors are free to call these &quot;departments&quot; or &quot;centers&quot; or anything else that suits them. At Wikipedia the content development projects are all called &quot;wikiprojects&quot;, but we need to get past the names and think clearly about the fundamentals of how people collaborate at wiki websites. What is a Wikiversity department? It is not a conventional university department. Wikiversity departments are places for people with similar interests to come together and collaborate online. It takes time to get people to think in terms of collaborative content development projects that will be the engines for producing Wikiversity's educational content and learning environment. It took years for such communities to form at Wikipedia. Should we throw our hands in the air and walk away because of the fact that we face a challenge in getting people to change the way they think? No. We have to get to work. Here is the way our situation was described at the launch of Wikiversity, &quot;..... the idea here is to also host learning communities, so people who are actually trying to learn, actually have a place to come and interact and help each other figure out how to learn things. We're also going to be hosting and fostering research into how these kinds of things can be used more effectively.&quot; ([http://wikimania2006.wikimedia.org/wiki/Opening_Plenary_%28transcript%29#Wikiversity_.2826:35.29 source]) Wikibooks, with its narrow scope, has been described as a 20-year-long project. Wikiversity, with a much broader scope, is not the kind of project that can be expected to look very polished in a short time. It is not in the spirit of wiki to, &quot;keep folks out until it gets going&quot;. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 15:34, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

==about degrees==
===High School Diplomas===
[[:en:Wikiversity:Colloquium#High_School_Diplomas|Here]] is some thing about high school diplomas, which I post here, so that people find it easier, since on this page there is also talked about degrees (because the original discussion at English Wikiversity gets archived after a while):

'''START QUOTE'''

I was rumaging through Wikibooks today, and came across this note on the [http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Study_help_desk#Online_High_School_Diploma Study Help Desk]:

:Will there be an opportunity for people to earn a high school diploma with Wiki....? I am Assistant Superintendent for the Rochester NH public schools and am interested in access to course materials, GED service and high school diploma opportunities for non traditional students.

:65.175.134.16 13:15, 11 October 2006 (UTC)Kent Hemingway65.175.134.16 13:15, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

:hemingway.k@rochesterschools.com 603-332-3678

Please, please would some people here interested in developing formal academic &quot;diplomas&quot; or &quot;degrees&quot; get in contact with this individual.  I feel very sheepish that I didn't catch this before, as this is an incredibly generous offer, particularly as this school district is very much interested in working with Wikimedia projects to develop a high school curriculum for non-traditional students.

It is individuals like this that would go a very long ways to getting &quot;accredited&quot; status for some Wikiversity projects, or at least prove that the idea of Wikiversity has some very strong merit.  Don't let this pass by without further comment or letting this educator know what Wikiversity has to offer.  --[[:en:User:Robert Horning|Robert Horning]] 08:00, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

:Hello Robert,
:[http://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Scope/En#Earning_Degrees|this] can help:
::In order to earn a degree, a certain amount of credit must be earned with an accredited organization, that is, some body of experts must determine that the program and the coursework make sense in the context of the degree to be conferred.

::'''Wikiversity will not be a degree granting institution''', although the materials available at Wikiversity can definitely be used by students and instructors at accredited institutions as a basis for the partial fulfillment of examination requirements for an accredited course.

::What Wikiversity is not
::* We do not run traditional courses
::* We do not grant degrees
::* We are not out to get accreditation

:there are some dangers, which could happen e.g.: how can you prove, that the user is really the user and not an expert, who (s)he hired?
:But, if Mr. Hemingway wants to do this on behalf of his school I think he can do this, by using material from Wikiversity and then his organization (Rochester NH public schools) can certify, when they have found a way to do this. 
:But Wikiversity does not give degrees.
:BTW: the link above &quot;Study help desk&quot; is not correct. ----[[User:Erkan_Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] ([http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Erkan_Yilmaz/Bewertung &lt;small&gt;evaluate me!&lt;/small&gt;], [[User_talk:Erkan_Yilmaz|&lt;small&gt;discussion&lt;/small&gt;]]) 10:32, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

::I was not aware that this was considered a settled question, but rather something put forth for future review after Wikiversity was well established.  Yes, I know that Wikiversity does not grant degrees or diplomas, but there certainly have been many Wikiversity participants over the years (yes, years) that have strongly suggested that at some point in the future that such sort of diploma or degrees might indeed be granted.  I was strongly suggesting that if such a course of action were to take place, that it would be with educational institutions just as this educator has suggested.

::The standards for accreditation of a High School program aren't nearly as strict as what is needed for university type accreditation as well, which is also why I brought this up at this time.  For those Wikiversity participants who want to follow this line of thought and try to establish such a program, this is an opportunity to do so.  Establishing a GED program would IMHO be a very good first step in that direction.

::BTW, the main reason for the &quot;No degree&quot; clause in the Wikiversity charter is to make it clear that Wikiversity hasn't achieved anything even resembling accreditation that would be necessary in order to grant those degrees, and that the WMF isn't going to directly finance and support any such effort to gain accreditation.  That is something that must come from ''within'' the Wikiversity user community first if it is ever going to happen.  There has also been some very significant resistance on the part of the WMF board of trustees that the topic even be broached, but it has and it is consistant that the topic is talked about.  --[[:en:User:Robert Horning|Robert Horning]] 11:34, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

'''END QUOTE'''

This thread will get updated, when the original discussion gets updated! ----[[User:Erkan_Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] ([http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Erkan_Yilmaz/Bewertung &lt;small&gt;evaluate me!&lt;/small&gt;], [[User_talk:Erkan_Yilmaz|&lt;small&gt;discussion&lt;/small&gt;]]) 12:22, 1 January 2007 (UTC)</text>
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==muss noch eingearbeitet werden==
siehe [[Wikiversity_talk:Scope/En#topic_Learning|hier]]: user [[w:de:Benutzer_Diskussion:WiseWoman|WiseWoman]] taucht namentlich 2 Mal im Artikel auf - sollte eher generalisiert werden. ----[[User:Erkan_Yilmaz|Erkan Yilmaz]] ([http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Erkan_Yilmaz/Bewertung &lt;small&gt;evaluate me!&lt;/small&gt;], [[User_talk:Erkan_Yilmaz|&lt;small&gt;discussion&lt;/small&gt;]]) 19:43, 28 December 2006 (UTC)</text>
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Primera Universidad de Chile</text>
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      <comment>Criando página de usuário!</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">Estou aqui na Wikipédia: [http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usu%C3%A1rio:Reynaldo Reynaldo]</text>
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    <title>User:Effeietsanders</title>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">see [[m:user:effeietsanders]]</text>
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    <title>User talk:Hardys</title>
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        <username>Hillgentleman</username>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">*哈地，你有無學習計劃(''learning project'',[[wikiversity:learning]], [[wikiversity:approved Wikiversity project proposal/En#learning]])提議？--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|書]] 07:21, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

*另一問題為理念。見到 Wise Woman 之意見([[wikiversity talk:scope/En]] 或 [http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer_Diskussion:WiseWoman]  )，比較英文wikiversity 之現況與當初構想理念，越覺「維基大學」一名未必（未必！）有利其發展。--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|書]] 08:02, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

*學習計劃或者不必多；人集中則利交流互動。我想舉行數理研討會，仍未有參與者。拭目以待閣下的學習計劃。--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|書]] 16:27, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

*順帶一提，各portal , school , topic 其實是內容組織、發展工具([[:en:wikiversity:naming conventions]])，我們稱之為院、系、部只為心理上方便。--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|書]] 04:56, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

*然。Wikiversity 之目的為探索如何用維基技術於教與學, 包括研究。可參攷[[wikiversity:original research/En#The scope of Wikiversity research projects]].----[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|書]] 08:47, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

*儘管開工、設研討會、找人討論，若你所講的有見地，就會有人參與。不必理二手還是原初等政策；研究政策遲遲未成，只因太少實際工作。真刀真槍幹，非「鬥着玩」。---[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|書]] 19:07, 1 January 2007 (UTC)</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">==wikiversity== 
學術無分高中低、大中小、上中下等，wikiversity 就是要人人可參與，不論是飛機大炮、物理化學，還是民間智慧、電玩秘技，總之有教無類，有類不教。

一星期7日，每日廿四小時，隨時上堂，學費全免（但歡迎捐助, [http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/give_the_gift_of_knowledge You can give the gift of knowledge by donating to the Wikimedia Foundation!] ）

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      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;center&gt;&lt;big&gt;
各維基院系:
&lt;br&gt;[[Portal:工學院|工學院]]
- [[Portal:數學|數學院]]
- [[Portal:生物|生命科學院]]
- [[Portal:物理|物理科學院]]
- [[Portal:化学科学|化学科学院]]
- [[Portal:人文|人文學院]]
- [[Portal:社會科學|社會科學院]]
- [[Portal:應用藝術與科學|應用藝術與科學院]]
- [[Portal:跨學科研究|跨學科研究院]]
&lt;/big&gt;
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&lt;/center&gt;&lt;noinclude&gt;
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        <username>Hardys</username>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">嘗試摺疊長表；未成功。--[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|書]] 04:10, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

==請大家多多對 Wikiversity 發展發表意見==

現在以試驗性質開設了幾個不同類型的學習計劃，例如以文學研究為主的[[Lesson:滿城盡帶黃金甲]]，以理論研究為主的[[Lesson:版權研究]]，及以實際教學為主的[[Lesson:麻將]]

Wikiversity 暫時還沒有必然或不必然的發展方向，以上幾個試驗項會因應日後發展共識而有所取捨，或取消或保留，但希望通過不斷嘗試去探索發展方向，希望大家多多發表意見，並放膽參與各個項目。[[User:Hardys|Hardys]] 09:28, 4 January 2007 (UTC)</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">&lt;div style=&quot;margin: 5px; text-align: center; font-size:18px; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif;&quot;&gt;მოგესალმებათ Wikiversity beta&lt;/div&gt;
{{მთავარი გვერდი}}
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==რას წარმოადგენს ვიკივერსიტი Beta?==

ეს არის გლობალური პლათფორმა, რომელიც კორდინაციას უწევს სხვადასხვა ენოვან '''ვიკივერსიტი'''ებს. ეს არის რევოლუციური ნაბიჯი - ზოგადად განათლების და ასევე, კერძოდ დისტანციური სწავლების სფეროში. ეს არის გლობალური საგანმანათლებლო პროექტი. '''[[Wikiversity:Multiligualism/En|ენათაშორისი კოორდინაცია]]''' ტარდება Wikiversity [[Wikiversity:Mission|მისიისა]] და პროექტის ზოგადი [[#Guidelines|დირექტივების]] შესაბამისად.

ვიკივერსიტი ბატა, როგორც ”ინკუბატორი”, სამსახურ უწევს სხვადასხვა ენოვან ''ვიკი''ვერსიტეტებს/უნი''ვიკი''ტეტებს. დღეისთვის არსებობს ორი დამოუკიდებელი ვიკივერსიტეტი: [[:en:Wikiversity:Main Page|ინგლისურ]] და [[:de:Hauptseite|გერმანულ]] ენებზე.

'''თუ თქვენ გსურთ შექმნათ ვიკივერსიტეტი ახალ ენაზე''', აუცილებელია, როგორც მინიმუმი 10 მონაწილის მოწვევა, რომელნიც თანახმა იქნებიან ამ სამუშაოზე. ათი მონაწილის შეკრების შემდეგ, თქვენ Metawiki საიტზე უნდა მიმართოთ [[m:Requests for new languages#Requests for Wikiversity Languages|განცხადებით]]. ასევე შეგიძლიათ გაეცნოთ [[Help:FAQ/Ru|პასუხებს ხშირად დასმულ კითხვებზე]].

==დირექტივები==
''გაგვიწიეთ დახმარება საერთაშორისო დირექტივების განვითარების და თარგმნის საქმეში.''
*[[Wikiversity:Scope of research/Ru]] - რა სახის გამოკვლევები უნდა ჩატარდეს ვიკივერსიტეტში?
*[[Wikiversity:Research guidelines/Ru]] - რა წესებს უნდა დავუჭიროთ მხარი, რომ შევინარჩუნოთ კვლევათა ”აკადემიურობა” - პროექტის ფარგლებში?

==განვითარება==
*გაგვიწიეთ დახმარება საერთაშორისო პროექტის განვითარებაში(http://www.wikiversity.org) на [[m:Talk:Www.wikiversity.org template|Мету]]
*მიიღეთ მონაწილეობა კონკურსში Wikiversity - ლოგო [[m:Wikiversity/logo|კონკურსი]].

==სხვა პროექტები==
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滿城盡帶黃金甲

[[wikipedia:zh:張藝謀|張藝謀]]電影《滿城盡帶黃金甲》之戲名'''滿城盡帶黃金甲'''到底是甚麼意思？

==不第後賦菊==
滿城盡帶黃金甲是出自[[wikipedia:zh:黃巢|黃巢]][[wikisource:zh:不第後賦菊|不第後賦菊]]：
《全唐詩》卷733
  待到秋來九月八，我花開後百花殺；
  衝天香陣透長安，滿城盡帶黃金甲！

==不第秀才==
黃巢出身鹽商家庭，進士不第。

==黃巢之亂==
乾符二年（875年），黃巢響應王仙芝的起義

==滿城盡帶黃金甲==     
  百花開時我未開，我一開時皆嚇殺
  欲與秋風戰一場，全身披上黃金甲(出處有待核實)
    
黃巢以菊花來比喻天下受苦之農民，比喻九月八開花之時正是起義之日，當菊花香陣透長安時，就是推翻腐敗的唐帝國之時。
    
==質疑==
由於[[wikipedia:zh:黃巢|黃巢]]生性殘暴毒虐，而且行事魯莽，所常有人懷疑此詩是否出自[[wikipedia:zh:黃巢|黃巢]]

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*[[wikipedia:zh:黃巢|黃巢]]
*[[wikipedia:zh:唐末農民戰爭|唐末農民戰爭]]
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版權(本版內容還在建設中)

==自由版權==
*[[wikipedia:zh:自由軟體基金會|自由軟體基金會]]
*[[wikipedia:zh:GNU|GNU計劃]]
*[[wikipedia:zh:GNU自由文檔許可證|GNU自由文檔許可證]]

==自由版權觀念==
*[[wikipedia:zh:創作共用|創作共用]]
*[[wikipedia:zh:合理使用|合理使用]]
*[[wikipedia:zh:Copyleft|Copyleft]](著佐權)
*[[wikipedia:zh:公有領域|公有領域]]
*[[wikipedia:zh:內容開放|內容開放]]
*[[wikipedia:zh:創作共用|創作共用]]

==自由版權應用==
*[[wikipedia:zh:自由軟體|自由軟體]]
*[[wikipedia:zh:Wikipedia:版權信息|Wikipedia:版權信息]]

==版權歷史==
*[[wikipedia:History_of_copyright_law|版權歷史]]
*[[wikipedia:Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works|《保護文學藝術作品的伯爾尼公約》]]（Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works
*《國際版權公約》（Universal Copyright Convention）

==新興版權觀念==
*TC (Trusted Computing)
*[[wikipedia:Digital_Rights_Management|DRM(Digital Rights Managemen)]]

==版權組織==
*[[wikipedia:zh:國際唱片業協會|國際唱片業協會]]

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;Wat is Wikiversity?
:Wikiversity is een nieuw Wikimedia project&lt;ref&gt;Board resolution: [[wikimedia:Resolution Wikiversity]]&lt;/ref&gt; dat bedoeld is om de kracht van een wiki te gebruiken bij online studeren. Dit nieuwe project is in een test phase gedurende de eerste zes maanden&lt;ref&gt;Anthere's mail over Wikiversity: http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2006-August/009074.html&lt;/ref&gt;.


;Wat is Wikiversity Beta?
:Wikiversity Beta is een globaal platform waar alle Wikiversity projecten worden gecoordineerd. Hier kunnen alle richtlijnenen en doelstelling voor het Wikiversity project worden besproken en vastgesteld (bijvoorbeeld over eigen onderzoek. Wikiveristy Beta wordt ook gebruikt voor Wikiversity projecten die nog niet hun eigen subdomain hebben gekregen.
:Kort samengevat, Wikiversity Beta is een meta-wiki en een beginplaats voor Wikiversity projecten.


;Hoe is het mogelijk dat zoveel verschillende talen samen zitten op Beta zonder dat het een rotzooi wordt?
:Het is de bedoeling dat Wikiversity Beta wordt gebruikt voor overleg en discussies, waarbij ook gebruikers die geen Engels spreken aan mee moeten kunnen doen. Daarom zijn discussies in verschillende talen erg welkom op Wikiversity Beta, en er is een [[Wikiversity:Multilingualism/Nl|voorstel]] om het mogelijk te maken voor niet-Engels talige sprekers om mee te doen aan discussies. Bovendien maakt Beta ook gebruik van een nieuwe functie genaamd ''[[Wikiversity:Language select/Nl|Language select]]'', waardoor het mogelijk is om pagina's te vertalen.


;Hoe zit het met de aparte Wikiversity projecten die al een eigen subdomain hebben?
:Die [[Wikiversity:Separate projects|aparte projecten]] groeien al flink, en hebben daarom hun eigen subdomain. Maar de gebruikers van die projecten worden sterk aangemoedigd om hier op Wikiversity Beta mee te discussiëren over de richtlijnen die gelden voor alle Wikiversity projecten. Bovendien worden ze ook aangemoedigd om te laten weten aan iedereen hoe het gaat met hun projecten op [[Wikiversity:Reports/Nl|reports]].


;Wat nu?
:Nu moeten we er voor zorgen dat er veel wordt gepraat en gediscussiërd hier op Wikiversity Beta. Mensen van andere projecten en andere vrijwilligers worden aangemoedigd om mee te discussiëren en samen te werken aan dit nieuwe project. Mensen die geen Engels kunnen praten zijn ook welkom, maar er zijn ook vrijwilligers nodig die teksten kunnen vertalen.


;Jullie meertalige systeem zal nooit werken. Het vereist teveel vertalers.
:Als mensen hun teksten kort and bondig samenvatten zal het vertalen minder tijd kosten en is de tekst zelf ook veel duidelijker. Tien dagen na de opening van Beta was de hoofdpagina al vertaald in vijf verschillende talen.
:Het is trouwens maar een voorstel. Als iedereen Engels zou spreken, zou dit niet nodig zijn, maar dit is niet het geval. Als het systeem niet werkt kunnen we tenminste zeggen dat we het hebben geprobeerd.


;Het zou veel praktischer zijn om alles in één taal te doen.
:Dat is inderdaad zo, maar de vraag is of we het makkelijker moeten maken voor mensen die Engels spreken of dat we er voor moeten zorgen dat zoveel mogelijk mensen mee kunnen praten over de richtlijnen die bedoeld zijn voor alle projecten?


;Wikiversity Beta slagzin?
:Hoe korter, hoe beter. Als je wilt dat mensen die andere talen spreken snappen wat je probeert te zeggen, kun je het beste korte samenvattingen schrijven.

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[[Image:MahjongSetup.JPG|thumb|麻将牌局]]
[[Image:Mahjong setup wall.jpg|thumb|不算很道地的麻将牌局]]
==麻將簡介==
*[[wikipedia:zh:麻將|麻將]]
*[[wikipedia:zh-yue:打麻雀|打麻雀]]
*[[wikipedia:zh:國標麻將|國標麻將]]

==麻將、麻雀、蔴雀？==
根據維基百科資料，[[wikipedia:zh:麻將|麻將]]以前是叫做“麻雀”的，但是因為在太倉地方方言把「麻雀」叫作「麻將」，結果打麻雀也就叫成打麻將了。

但是，如果有留意香港的麻雀館，大多數都叫麻雀，但是麻字卻加上草花頭，變成“蔴雀”，麻將、麻雀、蔴雀，幾種稱呼或寫法，其實都是同一樣東西。

== 麻將牌 ==
麻將牌中序數牌每類從「一」到「九」各四張，共二十七種一百零八張牌。又加上七種番子牌，每種各四張，有風牌：「東、南、西、北」、箭牌：「中、發、白」，共計二十八張牌。總共一百三十六張牌。後又添加同撲克中的「王」（JOKER）功能相近的花牌，一般有八張：「春、夏、秋、冬、梅、蘭、竹、菊」。共一百四十四張牌。&lt;ref&gt;[[wikipedia:zh:麻將|麻將]]&lt;/ref&gt;


==玩法==
*基本玩法

#洗牌：把牌全反扣過來，使牌面朝下。玩家雙手搓動牌，使牌均勻而無序地運動，稱為「洗牌」。
#碼牌：洗均勻之後，每人碼36張牌，兩張牌上下摞在一起為一墩，各自為18墩，並碼成牌牆擺在自己門前，四人牌牆左右相接成正方形。
#開牌：莊家擲骰，三顆骰子的總和所得的點數就是開牌的基數。以莊家為第一位，按逆時針方向順序點數，數到點數的位置為開牌的牌牆。從右向左依次數到與點數相同的那一墩，由莊家開始抓下兩墩牌，下一家再按順時針方向順序抓牌，直到每個人抓3次共12張牌，再由莊家跳牌(隔一墩)抓上層兩牌，其他人依次各抓一張。莊家共有14張牌，其他人各有13張牌。
#理牌、審牌、補花：分類整理手中的牌，整齊排列，審視牌勢。如手中有花牌，首先由莊家補花，即是從牌牆的尾端取一張牌。另外三家依次逐一補花，若補回來的是花牌，則待該輪完結後再補。
#行牌：行牌即是打牌進行過程。由莊家打出第一張牌開始，此過程包括抓牌、出牌、吃牌、碰牌、開槓（明槓、暗槓）、補直至和牌或荒牌。

===勝負===
最基本的目的，就是誰先做到一套'''“胡牌”'''出來，便為之勝。

一套'''“胡牌”'''即是指集齊四副'''順子'''或'''刻子'''及一對將(又稱雀頭、眼睛)，當集齊一套'''“胡牌”'''，便可以叫胡

====順子====
'''順子'''即是以三隻為一組，順次序排列的組合，例如：“一萬、二萬、三萬”這三集順次序排列牌，便為之一組順子。或者是：“一筒、二筒、三筒”，“四索、五索、六索”，也可以是：“五索、六索、七索”，總之順次序就可以。但要注意番(東、南、西、北、中、發、白)是做不到順子的

當你快將有一組順子時，例如你已經有“四索、五索”，若有人打出三索或者六索，你便可以叫“吃”，或廣東話叫“食”，然後拿來湊成一組，但食完後你必需要展示你這組順子，而且不可作任何改動，同時要打出一隻牌，以維持手中的牌為十三張。

====刻子====
'''刻子'''即是以三隻為一組，三隻相同的組合，例如：“一萬、一萬、一萬”這三隻一樣的，為之一組刻子，番牌也可以做刻子的，例如有三隻東，或者三隻中。

當你快將有一組刻子時，例如你已經兩隻“六筒”，若有人打出六筒，你便可以叫“碰”，然後拿來湊成一組，但碰完後你必需要展示你這組刻子，而且不可作任何改動，同時要打出一隻牌，以維持手中的牌為十三張。
====將====
’’’將’’’，或者叫'''眼'''，即是兩隻相同的牌，例如兩隻一筒，或者兩隻一索

====叫胡====
原則上只要記著以三組一隻為一組，收隻了四副'''順子'''或'''刻子'''加一對眼，稱之為「四搭一對」,便可以叫胡。

但亦有「四搭一對」之外的特殊胡牌，例如：
*'''八仙過海'''：其中一方湊齊 8 隻原本沒用的花牌，即「春、夏、秋、冬、梅、蘭、竹、菊」，這8 隻原本沒用的牌，如果有一人湊齊，就可以不理會其他牌立即叫胡。
*'''七搶一'''：和'''八仙過海'''一樣，分別是'''八仙過海'''是自模，'''七搶一'''是放搶 (即有人打出最後一隻，你便可以放搶)
*'''嚦咕嚦咕'''：台灣牌才有

===胡牌限制===

===其他玩法===
:台灣十六張麻將
:廣東十三張麻將

====鷲巢麻雀====
「鷲巢麻雀」出處不明，但是由於日本漫畫《賭博破戒錄》而被人認識，鷲巢麻雀是一副透明的水晶麻雀，每種牌面只有一隻是不透明之外，全部皆能被對手看到，由於透明的關係，所以不需要疊牌，只是把麻雀全放入一個黑箱內，然後再伸手入黑箱模牌。

《賭博啟示錄》推出後，市場上立即有人推出這種鷲巢麻雀，而且反應不錯


===術語===


==深入技巧==


==麻將用品==


==電玩麻將==
*明星三缺一
*麻雀格鬥俱樂部DS

==網上麻將==
*[http://game.sina.com.hk/cgi-bin/ja/main.cgi 新浪遊戲]

==麻雀周邊文化==
===音樂===
*打雀英雄傳, 主唱：[[wikipedia:zh:許冠傑|許冠傑]]
===電影===
*打雀英雄傳 , 主演：李彩華 | 元華 | 陳小春
*雀聖 1, 主演：元華 | 元秋 | 
*雀聖 2 (自摸天后), 主演：王晶 | 元秋 | 應采兒
===漫畫===
*《賭博破戒錄 [アカギ闘牌伝説]》，日本漫畫，作者：福本伸行

==參考==
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==相關==
*[[wikipedia:zh:牌九|牌九]]


==外部連結==
*[http://www.mj-king.com/ 麻將王]
*[http://hk.geocities.com/terryrashes/mj.htm 正宗麻雀館]</text>
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      <text xml:space="preserve">Hardys, 你想與各維基人研究麻將技術？麻將史？麻將與社會？----[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|書]] 08:15, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
:宏揚國粹而己, 其實基本內容完成後,希望可以翻譯成英文在英文wikiversity開課, 這也是配合維基媒體的跨語言政策, 其實這類教學內容應該較適合於wikiversity多於維基百科, 雖然維基百科也有些條目不但有教學而且還有攻略內容, 好像[[wikipedia:zh:國際象棋]], 但既然有wikiversity 就應該讓wikiversity做這種事
:其實麻雀不單單是賭錢, 而是一種好像捉棋一樣的鬥智遊戲, 也很講究攻略的, 日本有很多這方面研究的書(可惜不懂日文, 希望日後wikiversity會有人開日文課程), 香港關於麻雀的書十隻手指數得晒, 而且大都是台灣出的, 實不應如此。
:麻雀之後可能會做中國象棋, 不過等麻雀完成後再說吧, 不過我打雀經驗大多來自打機, 其實我只是希望做好基礎建設後其他人可以容易參與 -[[User:Hardys|Hardys]] 03:46, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
::棋大有可為。中國象棋新聞教材少而難找，圍棋較多，國際象棋新聞與教材甚多。可從chessbase.com 、TWIC 等取材切礎，開、中、結局皆可。---[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|書]] 22:58, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

*深入技巧----有何打算？---[[User:hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]]|[[User talk:hillgentleman|書]] 09:25, 21 January 2007 (UTC)</text>
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    <title>Lesson:版權研究</title>
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    <title>Hovedside</title>
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      <comment>Starting work on a Norwegian front page.</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">==Hva er Wikiversitetet?==

Wikiversitetet er et prosjekt med det mål å gjennom en stortstilt nettdugnad skape et fritt universitet. Her vil vi sammen skape læremateriale på mange språk og gjøre dette tilgjengelig for hele verden, og på den måten både lære noe nytt selv og bidra til å dele kunnskap med andre.</text>
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      <comment>/* Discussão adicional */</comment>
      <text xml:space="preserve">{{Languages|Wikiversity:Approved Wikiversity project proposal}}
{{Wikiversity}}

Esta página é uma proposta modificada para a [[Wikiversidade]] se tornar um projecto irmão da [[Wikimedia Foundation]]. A primeira secção desta página (&quot;Revisão histórica do projecto Wikiversidade&quot; em baixo) contém uma descrição de como foi realizada a proposta original do projecto Wikiversidade. A proposta modificada está na Parte 2, começando como &quot;Missão&quot;.

== Revisão histórica do projecto Wikiversidade ==

A [[Wikiversidade]] foi proposta para eliminação do Wikibooks em Agosto de 2005. Pouco depois, houve uma proposta para tornar a [[Wikiversidade]] num projecto Wikimedia independente. Adicionalmente à informação proposta na página de propostas de projectos, foi descrita informação sobre a proposta original num [http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2005-August/003857.html post de uma mailing list] e na página da [[Wikiversity|Wikiversidade]] no meta-wiki da WikiMedia.

Pode ser encontrada aqui uma proposta e discussão antiga : [[Wikiversity:Original proposal]].

Segue uma '''proposta de projecto modificada''' ('''Parte 2''')

== Missão ==

'''A Wikiversidade é um centro para a criação e uso materiais de aprendizagem e actividades gratuitas'''. As suas prioridades primárias e objectivos são:

* Criar e alojar uma gama larga de conteúdos gratuitos, materiais/recursos de aprendizagem multilingues, para os públicos de todas as idades em todas as línguas.
* Alojar projectos escolares/ensino e comunidades que apoiem esses materiais.
* Complementar e desenvolver os projectos da Wikimedia (por exemplo, um projecto dedicado a encontrar boas referências para os artigos da [http://pt.wikipedia.org Wikipédia]).

Ver mais em [[Wikiversidade:Abrangência]] e [[Wikiversidade:Curso Online]]. Ao cumprir-se a sua missão, outras tarefas e objectivos poderão ser iniciados e desenvolvidos por participantes para apoiar o ensino e a criação de novos conteúdos. Em particular, directrizes serão desenvolvidas durante a fase beta do desenvolvimento da Wikiversidade no alojamento e adopção de ''investigação'' baseada em parte nos recursos existentes na Wikiversidade e outros projectos Wikimedia.

== Ensino ==
'''O modelo Wikiversidade de e-Ensino'''. As universidades existentes &quot;de pedra e cal&quot; começaram como pontos de encontro para indivíduos aprendizes procurando conhecimento e pelos que como mestres num determinado campo podiam agir como professores para guiar os primeiros no processo de ensino. A Wikiversidade será um ponto de encontro virtual para mestres e estudantes, uma wiki que albergará e promoverá um ambiente de aprendizagem online flexível.

As universidades convencionais evoluíram para ter salas de aulas, colecções de cursos, classificações e propinas para os alunos, pagamento a professores, a concessão de graus académicos, certificação de professores e acreditação de universidades. Essa estrutura completa cresceu para satisfazer as necessidades de concentração de recursos caros (pessoas e infraestruturas) numa localização em particular no mundo físico. O modelo Wikiversidade de e-Ensino abandona todos os aspectos das universidades convencionais que cresceram a partir da necessidade de concentração de pessoas e infraestrutura num mesmo local e tempo. O modelo Wikiversidade de e-Ensino cresce a partir da capacidade do ambiente de utilizador wiki para libertar o ensino dos constrangimentos convencionais de tempo e local. Ver [[Wikiversity:Learning]] para mais informação.

=== Grupos de aprendizagem ===
É natural para o formato wiki desenvolver &quot;grupos de aprendizagem&quot; (criando e mantendo caminhos de ensino; portais de interesses; projectos ou artefactos de tarefas ) onde todos os participantes possam discutir e aprender por colaboração. Estes grupos/comunidades serão pontos de ajuda, equipas de tutorado, clubes de debates - aplicações práticas poderão ser sob a forma de pesquisas para a Wikipedia, ou escrever código para a MediaWiki. Isto é aprender entre pares, aprender por colabocação e discussão - a &quot;maneira wiki&quot;.

Os participantes da Wikiversidade irão participar activamente em projectos de ensino online. Como para qualquer wiki, a participação da comunidade envolve a edição de páginas wiki. Os projectos de ensino Wikiversidade serão orientados em redor de necessidades existentes noutros projectos Wikimedia. Por exemplo, um grupo de participantes da Wikiversidade poderão envolver-se num projecto para encontrar boas fontes para um artigo existente da Wikipedia. Outro projecto da Wikiversidade poderá envolver a exploração de uma disciplina académica estabelecida e os participantes poderão decidir colectivamente a colecção de material que pudesse contribuir para um livro de texto da Wiikilivros para essa matéria. Assim, a Wikiversidade irá naturalmente complementar os projectos Wikimedia existentes ao fornecer um ambiente que apoie e adopte &quot;pesquisas secundárias&quot; de sábios. A Wikiversidade irá começar com um desvio em direcção a projectos de ensino que forneçam apoio aos projectos Wikimedia existentes, mas com o tempo, a Wikiversidade irá evoluir para servir as necessidades da sua própria comunidade. Os estudantes irão expressar as suas necessidades de ensino e a comunidade da Wikiversidade irá evoluir as actividades de ensino e projectos para acomodar essas necessidades. Alguns grupos poderão actuar didacticamente - existe espaço para que materiais sejam lançados como instruções ou tarefas a ser seguidas. Em qualquer caso, existirão comunidades por detrás dos materiais para apoiar o continuado uso e desenvolvimento dos conteúdos alojados na Wikiversidade. Ver mais em [[Wikiversity:Learning]] e [[Wikiversity:Online Course]].

== Recursos ==
Os '''Recursos''' irão incluir ajudas ao ensino, planos de estudo, currículos, ligações, listas de leitura, etc. Cada área disciplinar (ou 'curso', 'projecto'), essencialmente, cada ''comunidade'', cria uma página web com recursos que irão formar a base de discussões e actividades dentro do campo da Wikiversidade, e essa poderá ser usada por quaisquer outros educadores para os seus próprios propósitos. Alguns desses irão ser ligados com outros projectos Wikimedia, tais como Wikilivros e Wikipédia - uma chave para que esses recursos deve ser a apresentação de trabalhos posteriores (prática/discussão/reflecção/crítica, etc.).

== Pesquisa ==

A Wikiversidade poderá funcionar como um depósito de pesquisas efectuadas pela [[meta:Wikimedia Research Network]] ou outras pessoas envolvidas na pesquisa wiki-baseada, e poderá também alojar os procedimentos de [[meta:Wikimania]]. Quer a Wikiversidade venha ou não alguma vez a alojar material de pesquisa original como adicionalmente de pesquisa secundária, é tema de debate (Ver [[Talk:Wikiversity/Modified project proposal|página de discussão]]), apesar de [[pesquisa original]] poder ter lugar baseado em materiais da Wikiversidade (p.e., materiais de sociologia apresentam um projecto de pesquisas de investigação). As directrizes para o que poderá ser investigação apropriada irá ser desenvolvido durante a fase beta do projecto através do processo de consenso da comunidade, e revista (pelo [[meta:Special projects committee]]) após seis meses.
Não será ''necessariamente'' uma &quot;aprovação&quot; de pesquisa adicionada à Wikiversidade - apesar necessitarem de ser estabelecidos alguns tipos de processo de revisão, o que irão lidar com potenciais problemas.

== Extensão da Wikiversidade ==

=== O que a Wikiversidade é: ===
*'''Um depósito de recursos educacionais multilingues gratuito'''
*'''Uma rede de comunidades para criar e usar esses recursos'''
*'''Um esforço de grupo para aprender'''. Que poderá ser ou não ser liderado por um instrutor, que poderá ou não ser um especialista no tópico.

=== O que a Wikiversidade não é: ===
*'''Uma duplicação de outros projectos Wikimedia'''. Enquanto que a Wikiversidade complementa outros projectos Wikimedia, não irá simplesmente duplicar o seu conteúdo. Assim, se quiser ler sobre algum tópico, poderá ser melhor visitar, por assim dizer, a Wikipédia ou Wikilivros, mas se quiser aprender sobre esse tópico, poderá fazê-lo na Wikiversidade. Os materiais didácticos serão criados e usados na Wikiversidade, mas os materiais de outros projectos poderão também eles mesmos ser usados como materiais de aprendizagem ou mesmo como lugares para consolidação desta aprendizagem, i.e. escrevendo um artigo, manual etc. baseado no que foi aprendendo. Poderá haver alguma sobreposição, mas cada projecto manterá claro o seu próprio objectivo.

*'''Uma instituição que atribua um grau académico ou título''': A Wikiversidade não conferirá graus ou qualificações académicas, nem irá dar títulos a pessoas para que se chamem a si próprias &quot;professores&quot;, se não são professores.

O trabalho feito na Wikiversidade irá, espera-se, ser usado noutros projectos. Quando os participantes tiverem resultados suficientes, poderão ser usados para melhorar outros projectos Wikimédia, e mesmo outras fontes, referências e dados para ensino online.

Veja mair em: [[Wikiversity:O que a Wikiversidade não é]] e [[Wikiversity:Scope]].

== Funções que a Wikiversidade irá/poderá precisar no futuro ==
*Metadados - existe de momento trabalho no Metadata patch, que será capaz de ser adicionada à Wikiversidade retrospectivamente.
*Protecção de página - poderá haver a necessidade de restrição de edição de páginas ou grupos de páginas a alguns grupos de pessoas (tal como por exemplo uma comunidade de pesquisa). No entanto, é necessário fazer isto com cuidado, para minimizar a exclusão de pessoas ao trabalho da comunidade.
*Software - Não existe de momento qualquer software necessário para manter a Wikiversidade em funcionamento, mas os participantes são encorajados a experimentar com acréscimos ao código fonte que poderão ajudar de alguma forma o trabalho da Wikiversidade. A implementação dessas ideias terão de ser feitas através dos canais apropriados (provavelmente o [[Comité de Projectos Especiais]]).

== Discussão adicional ==
Tem havido alguma discussão sobre como satisfazer o pedido da Comissão para a modificação da proposta original da Wikiversidade, que pode ser vista através destas páginas:
*[[meta:Talk:Wikiversity/Archive 3#Current status]]
*[[meta:Moving Wikiversity forward]]
*[[b:Talk:Wikiversity#Decision on Wikiversity?]]

Por favor coloque todas as discussões adicionais das modificações à proposta de Wikiversidade na [[Talk:Wikiversity/Modified project proposal|página de discussão]] para a proposta modificada.

{{WikiversityUsers}}

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      <comment>Premature baby in an incubator. El Tahrir el Aam (General Liberation Hospital), Basrah, Iraq.

see here for source: http://de.wikiversity.org/wiki/Bild:Inkubator.png
it was edited by [[:de:Benutzer:Exxu|Exxu]]

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      <text xml:space="preserve">Premature baby in an incubator. El Tahrir el Aam (General Liberation Hospital), Basrah, Iraq.

see here for source: http://de.wikiversity.org/wiki/Bild:Inkubator.png
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      <comment>New page: &lt;div style=&quot;background-color: #fcfcfc; margin: 0; border: 1px solid #DEDED3; padding: 7px 7px 0px 7px;  -moz-border-radius:5px&quot;&gt; 	&lt;div style=&quot;margin: 0; padding: -27px 0 0 0; float: right;...</comment>
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