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== Why meta? ==
Hi. Leaving a message here. What sort of things do you plan to do on English Wikinews? Curious because you created a talk page and pointed people where to contact you. :) More than willing to assist you with Wikinews things. :) --[[User:LauraHale|LauraHale]] ([[User talk:LauraHale|talk]]) 16:02, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
:Hi, I got email notification. This page was created via Pathoschild's script, and I am willing to do some interwiki works with Korean Wikinews and some CVN works (if possible). And that redirect to meta is just my preferences. Thanks, -- [[User:Hym411|<span style="color:green">레비<small>Revi</small></span>]][[User talk:Hym411|<span style="color:pink"><font size="2">✉</font></span>]]<sub><sub>[[:m:User:Hym411/g|<span style="color:blue">SUL Info</span>]]</sub></sub>16:06, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
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== Watercooler discussion: Possible memorial fund? ==
Hi. I started a discussion on the English Wikinews water cooler at [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous#Memorial_fund_in_Ashley-Nelson_and_Adrianne_Wadewitz.27s_honor.3F|Memorial fund in Ashley-Nelson and Adrianne Wadewitz's honor?]]. I would really appreciate any feedback you could provide. --[[User:LauraHale|LauraHale]] ([[User talk:LauraHale|talk]]) 15:03, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
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== Vote about license upgrade ==
Hi!
You have now added a conclusion ("Yes, WN upgrade to CC-BY-4.0 if the the other WN also upgrade."). Thank you for that! And I agree that it seems to be a fair description of what concensus is.
But I think we need to clarify what that means. We know that some versions of wikinews want to change too. None that I know of had said no. But many have not made a formal vote and given a clear yes or no. So can we say that the other WN will also upgrade so therefore the final result is a Yes, English Wikinews upgrade to CC-BY-4.0? Or do we have to wait for the final result from all the wikis or from a RFC on meta?
As I understand it some wikis wait for the result from English Wikinews before they do anything. So it is a very slow process to get anywhere.
Also if we agree that it is a yes then we need to know which date the upgrade will take place. I think it would be good if we could send a message to all WN with something like this:
"English Wikinews will change to CC-BY-4.0 with effect for all edits made from December 1, 2024 (or another date). Arabic Wikinews have allready changed, German, Polish, Chinese and Esperanto Wikinews have also decided to change or support to change. You can read about it at [[:en:Wikinews:Water cooler/policy#Update of license]].
We hope that you will also change license so we can continue to share articles across the different versions of Wikinews.
To complete the change we need to file a request on Phabricator. To make it easier we plan to make one request for all the versions of Wikinews that will change the license.
To be able to coordinate the change of license we will therefore start a vote here suggesting that you also update the license to CC-BY-4.0. The vote will end on November 15, 2024. That will give some days to prepare the update.
If your wiki have allready decided or have an existing vote please leave a message here with a link to the vote/result.
Please note that if there are no comments or protests it will be taken as a support for the change per [[:m:Requesting wiki configuration changes]].
We will appriciate any help to make sure this vote is announced the correct places and the text is translated with a translator so if there are any errors please help correct it. If the local policy have different rules than the one we suggest please correct as soon as possible.
=== Vote ===
The vote end on November 15, 2024. All users with more than 250 good edits can vote.
Question: Do you support to upgrade to CC-BY-4.0 too on the same date as English Wikinews upgrade their license?"
So perhaps we need a new section where you add the final conclusion (English Wikinews will update per <date> and we will send out a message to all versions of Wikinews to try to get everyone else to update too) and perhaps also a section where we can keep track of the progress (and can discuss the wording of the message to other wikis). Maybe we can use the page I created: [[User:MGA73/Licenseupgrade]]. If you think we can move it to a new name so its not in my namespace (Wikinews:Water cooler/policy/License_update_2024 for example). [[User:MGA73|MGA73]] ([[User talk:MGA73|talk]]) 15:16, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
:That's a lot to unpack. ツ I'll try to go point-by point:
:* {{tq|So can we say that the other WN will also upgrade so therefore the final result is a Yes, English Wikinews upgrade to CC-BY-4.0? Or do we have to wait for the final result from all the wikis or from a RFC on meta?}} Would it be better to say something along the lines of 'English Wikinews will upgrade on date X. Other Wikinews projects are managing their processes internally and independent of English Wikinews.' I think waiting for all other language projects to align and work through things would be time-consuming and detrimental to maintaining momentum for the ones who want to move forward. And I would hope that a change in share-ability (due to license incompatibility) might spur action. I think it's best to post this conclusion after en.WN has all pages prepped (edit-protected pages are all that we think are left). Once that is done we could come up with a date and post the message to all language projects.
::* Related; {{tq|To complete the change we need to file a request on Phabricator. To make it easier we plan to make one request for all the versions of Wikinews that will change the license.}} Should we instead provide each language project with instructions on how to do so? That way we all aren't held up and can instead each work at the pace our projects can support.
:* {{tq|As I understand it some wikis wait for the result from English Wikinews before they do anything. So it is a very slow process to get anywhere.}} Agreed. I think the only thing holding en.WN up is the edit-protected pages and [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] has committed to making those changes over the next few days. 🤞
:* {{tq|Please note that if there are no comments or protests it will be taken as a support for the change per [[:m:Requesting wiki configuration changes]].}} My reading of the linked document is that it does not state an absence of comments or protests are interpreted as a vote of {{support}}. I understand it to instead be summarized as 'you had your chance.' "[I]t should be enough to show that you have tried to gain consensus, and that you have given an opportunity for objections." It might be a difference without a distinction, but for such a formal and impacting procedure, it may be worth sticking very closely to what the Meta page stipulates. Maybe the verbiage could be along the lines of
:::"A lack of opposition or absence of comments during the polling period is not automatically considered support. Rather, it reflects that participants had their opportunity to express their views. If no objections are raised, the poll will default to a 'proceed' action, assuming no opposition was voiced."
:* {{tq|If you think we can move it to a new name so its not in my namespace...}} I agree and I am unsure of where that should be moved to. Since it's in your user space, it will be cleanest if you or an admin move it.
:Thanks for sticking with and managing this! —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 16:32, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
Lol yes it was a lot. Sorry about that. But I think we have to figure these things out.
The reason I suggest that we coordinate the change of license is because then it can happen on the same day and as you can see on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/mediawiki-config/browse/master/wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php$10882 all wikinews have the same license per default. If the wikis change separately then some dev (or whoever make the changes) have to edit several times and add each wiki separately. So my plan and hope is that we can get all or most to change. If lets say 3 wikis do not want us to change then we can say on phabricator that "Please change the default license for wikinews to cc-by-4.0 but make exceptions for these tree wikinews: Foo1, Foo2 and Foo3 (they stay with cc-by-2.5 unless they decide otherwise later).".
I agree that it is perhaps a bit too much to say that no comments = support. I just wanted the wikis to know that the change will also happen if there are no protests. So that if they ignore this vote the license will change.
So perhaps the conclusion can be as you suggested but with a little addition:
'English Wikinews will upgrade on date X. Other Wikinews projects are formally managing their processes internally and independent of English Wikinews however the magical M@M duo will try to coordinate a joined change of license on all Wikinews projects at the same date.'
And if we want to do it like that then we need to chose a date that is minimum 1 month away. If we do that then Gryllida have plenty of time to fix the pages while we set up the messages/votes on all the other versions of Wikinews.
But of course we can also do as as you suggest and change license on English Wikinews and write to all the other versions of Wikinews that English Wikinews have changed and then still try to make all the other change license too. --[[User:MGA73|MGA73]] ([[User talk:MGA73|talk]]) 21:35, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
== Corrections ==
Hi. You probably saw the debacle with the pager explosions story that warranted a correction. I found one of the problems there — inaccuracy in dates — to also be present in the article on Ryan Routh's superseding indictment. In both cases, it seems likely you missed converting relative to cardinal dates. So please be more careful about this immediately pre-publication in the future. Both were also missing some important cats; the Tips on reviewing articles checklist prompts the reviewer on this. If you add a cat for a country, you have to add the relevant news region cat(s) as well; so [[:Category:Hungary]] needs to be accompanied by [[:Category:Europe]].
I have a habit of writing headlines that are too long, but if I were you, I would've added altered the headline to something a bit more unique (e.g. "golf course attempted assassination"). [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 23:39, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
:Yes, I will pay closer attention to date conversions. I should have caught that.
:That's one aspect that the pre-review process can't include so I'm unfortunately not in the habit of checking it. This is a good reason to have an active and seasoned reviewer on hand to address these things either before hand or within the 24-hour grace period immediately afterwords—so corrections aren't necessary. I'm not saying it was anyone else's fault, just that it would help new reviewers if we had some sort of a transition/training period for them.
:Regarding the requirement for two geographical categories, I don't see that in [[Wikinews:Tips on reviewing articles]] or [[Wikinews:Reviewing articles]]. Tips says "At least one geographical category..." Am I missing something?
:Also, how do you update the five lead templates? Do you normally do it manually—one at a time—or is there a widget/gadget/javascript page you use to move them?
:Thanks as always for the help. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:47, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
::"it would help new reviewers if we had some sort of a transition/training period for them": Yeah, absolutely. I think it could've helped me a lot when I was new too. In the past, experienced reviewers would meet on IRC once or twice with a reviewer candidate or prospective candidate to co-review an article, perhaps with the newbie demonstrating how they would review the article, making edits on-wiki; the experienced reviewer could offer corrections and evaluate their readiness.
::That minimum requirement is accurate, although I can't think of a situation where a country cat wouldn't be needed. All I'm saying is when you do use a cat on an article, its parent cats need to be used as well.
::Oh, yeah, [[Wikinews:Make lead]] is the JS tool. I tend to use it except when I need to use the edit summary to explain the rationale for my editing or switching around leads others put on the Main Page. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 21:49, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
== Please review now ==
Hi Michael.C.Wright
I've written these two news articles:
* [[New Zealand Navy ship HMNZS Manawanui capsizes one nautical mile from shore]] (event October 9 Saturday)
* [[Rio Negro tributary of the Amazon River experiences lowest water level on record]] (event this Friday)
Please, review them now. I purposedfully wrote them short and as few sources as possible.
If something is not verifiable, please take it out or leave a note.
Many thanks.
Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 04:40, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
:Edit: the second story was published by RockerballAustralia (thanks!). The first one is still in queue. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:49, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
:Queue: *3* in total: Monday (1), Tuesday (2). It is currently *Wednesday*. One breaking story (hurricane). 🥺🥺🥺 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:24, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
::I will have less time to dedicate to reviewing this month. I will also have at least two, maybe more periods of no access. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:24, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
== Notes about reviewing ==
Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]
I am very happy to see you around helping with the reviews following your successful application for Reviewer. I believe you are very good at wikification (a point I am not doing well) and at reading the sources to verify the information. This is very good. For future I would suggest to increase your "sense of urgency" by pinging the article authors on the article talk page to attract their attention. This is probably something that the software should do automatically. I will inquire at the technical water cooler about this shortly.
I am wondering what other reviewers would suggest to you (@[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]]? @[[User:Acagastya|Acagastya]]? @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]]? Last 3 active reviewers I believe) for feedback.
Have a good day. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:20, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
:Thanks for posting this. Hopefully others will respond.
:I can work at creating more of a sense of urgency. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:34, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
== Yes please update leads ==
Hi Michael.C.Wright
When I am editing from mobile or among noisy environment I don't touch the leads -- easy to mess up. Please continue to update it when you have a moment. There was no decision against it. I will try to do it also as often as I can.
Thank you. :-)
Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:45, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
:Will do... —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:24, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
== live chat ==
Hi,
I would like to provide you with access to my [[:w:Quassel Core]] so that you can access IRC continuously. You will need to '''install a 'Quassel Client'''' (no Core) from the http://www.quassel-irc.org web site. When this is done, and when you connect to IRC next time, please '''send me a private message''' to nick 'gry' while logged in; I will provide you the login details.
I consider this relatively urgent as new articles may die when people work on them asynchronously.
Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:31, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
:Correction: the url is [[:w:Quassel IRC]]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:32, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
== Headline verb tense tip ==
Hi Michael C. Wright
Tip: news headlines are in present tense.
E.g. [[Bruce Lehrmann judge said to have no links to published book of judgement]]
FYI. I don't think any action or correction is required on this page (unless it's less than 24 hours and you dig up a policy that allows change).
Regards, [[File:Smiley.svg|20px]] [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:22, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
:Agreed. I wanted to change the headline because Lehrmann is not the main focus and using his name to identify the judge could be misleading/confusing. I didn't, but I should have.
:It's been over 24 hours since it was published, so we're stuck with it, unfortunately. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:41, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
== resubmitted ==
I've resubmitted story about Qantas for your review. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:24, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
== Can you review ==
Can you review my UK Tory leader page? [[User:CSMention269|CSM.in]] ([[User talk:CSMention269|talk]]) 14:44, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
:I may not have time today to review any articles but I'll see what I can do. Fingers crossed. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:11, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
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== ArbCom ==
Hi revi,
# At 20:00utc today we need to close the nominations for arbcom and check that they are valid.
# Then we need to open the voting period I think.
# This time is a bit more than 12 hours from now. It is 6am Sydney time and 5am Seoul time ([https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2018&month=7&day=17&hour=20&min=0&sec=0&p1=240&p2=235 link]) if I am not mistaken.
Perhaps if you could double check each of these two points it would be nice. :)
Also there are only six candidates as of yet. I am not sure what is the purpose of voting in the case there are only six. ArbCom itself comprises of six people also.
--[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 06:37, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
:#Yeah, acknowledged.
:#That's true too, and we have 24 hours to validate the candidates. ("Voting will take place from 2000 UTC July 18 to 2000 UTC July 30")
:#It's 5am KST but I am currently in South African Standard Time (UTC+2), so it's 22:00 here.
:And yeah, more candidates are always better but we can't force anyway :-p — [[User:-revi|<span style="color:green">revi</span>]][[User talk:-revi|<span style="color:pink"><sup>☏</sup></span>]] 06:40, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
::OK :) --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:14, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
::: {{ping|-revi|Gryllida}} I don't recall any formal process of validating candidates having been followed before. My own understanding of the candidacy criteria is that non-Wikinewsies can't stand for ArbCom — practice going afaik all the way back to the founding of the project says that while outsiders are welcome to speak their mind, in decisions relating to policy, only those who have actually contributed to news production have a voice. (Seems likely this was put in place originally to prevent outsiders from ballot-stuffing to arbitrarily rearrange the project.) Other than one occasion years ago that I don't remember clearly (which I ''think'' amounted to nothing in the end), we've always gotten confirmation from folks before nominating them, which I don't see explicitly in the rules though it seems advisable both to assure that the nominee is willing to stand and also that they're really available in case they're needed to hear a case; I was rather cheered, this year, that the ones I've nominated responded fairly promptly. --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 13:57, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
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== Re: databases ==
Hello -revi,
Seeing that you retrieved the most active users by number of edits recently, it looks like you're good at this database thing. Two questions:
1) By a database query, would you be able to retrieve information about deleted articles, if you are not a sysop?
2) Would you be willing to implement (or guide me how to do this -- link me to relevant reading materials) [[User:Gryllida/Tasks#Task_33:_track_decline_and_deletion_reasons|this]] -- a tracker of 'Review', 'Develop', 'Disputed', 'Abandoned' category additions to articles within the last year? I was going to write a Perl script for this, to retrieve each article history and category membership manually in a loop, but perhaps this is terribly wrong...
Again thank you for your response in advance, -revi!
--[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 04:57, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
:# No, unless you have access to WMF production database, the SQL query on [[quarry:|quarry]] just works with the undeleted pages,as far as I know.
:# You should be able to access deleted revisions via [[mw:API:Deletedrevisions]]. However, I don't know how to retrieve the logs of delete log. — [[User:-revi|<span style="color:green">revi</span>]][[User talk:-revi|<span style="color:pink"><sup>☏</sup></span>]] 15:58, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
== Nodejs programming needed ==
Hello. Do you program in nodejs? Please see [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/technical#Nodejs_programming_needed|here]]. Or if you know someone else please link them to the section. Thank you in advance. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:16, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
:Sorry, I have no idea with Node.js. I'll find if someone knows it, but given MW is PHP, I have limited information about nodejs devs around here. — [[User:-revi|<span style="color:green">revi</span>]][[User talk:-revi|<span style="color:pink"><sup>☏</sup></span>]] 15:45, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
== ArbCom ==
Hello -revi :-)
1) [[Wikinews:Arbitration_Committee/2017_election/Results]]
Does [[Wikinews:Arbitration_Committee/2018_election/Results]] need to be created?
2) Perhaps the results also need to be posted to the forum, and
3) [[Wikinews:Arbitration_Committee]] needs to also be updated where it lists current and past members?
Just checking as I think this is the process from last year.
[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:23, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
:#That looks fine.
:#Hmm, do we have precedence?
:#I think we can update on D-Day. — [[User:-revi|<span style="color:green">revi</span>]][[User talk:-revi|<span style="color:pink"><sup>☏</sup></span>]] 17:50, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
: {{ping|Gryllida|-revi}} Preferably there should be a page for this year's election results, created (or at least, with the results filled in) by an election committee member, and ideally signed off on by both election committee members. --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 15:50, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
::Done the Results page. Waiting for Gryllida to certify. If Gryliida want to post it on forums, that's fine for me. — [[User:-revi|<span style="color:green">revi</span>]][[User talk:-revi|<span style="color:pink"><sup>☏</sup></span>]] 16:07, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
::: I updated the lists of current and past members. --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 22:21, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
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== Alive ==
Is this a prepared? because he is currently alive according to valid news sources, Wikipedia. [[User:SkruhKidd2|SkruhKidd2]] ([[User talk:SkruhKidd2|talk]]) 13:26, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
:It is, apparently, a prepared story, although it is not being stored in [[Wikinews:Story preparation]]. {{re|Koavf}} Some might raise a [[WN:WWIN|not-a-web-host]] objection to this being stored in your userspace, which, they say, discourages collaboration. If you move it to story prep, beware articles there [[WN:PROD|may be deleted ten days after being tagged as "unsourced or largely unsourced"]]. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 16:11, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
::What do you recommend then? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 20:34, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
:It is. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 20:19, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
::Koavf, Jimmy might not die for awhile just saying, no one can predict death. [[User:SkruhKidd2|SkruhKidd2]] ([[User talk:SkruhKidd2|talk]]) 21:22, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
:::Of course not, but the obit of a president is a huge undertaking. I can 100% promise you that the ''New York Times'' has had a draft obituary for him for decades. Rather than scramble to write this after he's dead, it makes sense to get started now. There should be draft obituaries for a host of public figures. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 21:31, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
:::Eh. I'm fine if it sits here for now. I know this isn't Wikipedia, but the userspace over there is chock-full of utterly useless garbage that veers far further over the NOTWEBHOST line than this. IMO, not concerned about discouraging collaboration if the alternative is keeping it offline in a text editor file or something to avoid a PROD issue as it is developed. [[User:Tyrol5|Tyrol5]] ([[User talk:Tyrol5|talk]]) 22:44, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
::::(The usual way to avoid a prepared story qualifying for that PROD criterion would be adding sourcing for the background information — which is probably going to be most of a prepared story (one of the arguments for adopting that requirement was that there were stories in prep containing tons of unsourced material, which would therefore actually slow publication when the event happened)). [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 23:54, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::Hey, far be it for me, of all people, to critique doing things out of order — different strokes &c. — but fair enough. [[User:Tyrol5|Tyrol5]] ([[User talk:Tyrol5|talk]]) 00:43, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
::::::I personally don't see an issue with storing this in userspace in this case, where the prepared material has an obvious use in the near future. I'd ''prefer'' if it was sourced from the beginning to ensure verifiability doesn't become an issue later, but that's not a requirement if it's in userspace as far as I know. I realize "the usual way" may seem to imply I think this way's unacceptable; but, my 23:54 comment was just intended to provide explanation, as asked for above, of what I would recommend if Koavf removed it from userspace. Maybe I should've placed it further up the page, but I felt like a more generally-directed remark was warranted. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 02:27, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::::Good deal. I'm surprised anyone even ''found'' this since it has the NOINDEX magic word. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 02:58, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
::::::::Oh, I saw it in RC. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 03:50, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
== He's still alive ==
Jimmy Carter - Wikipedia he hasn't died from what I'm reading. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:45, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
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== Alive ==
Is this a prepared? because he is currently alive according to valid news sources, Wikipedia. [[User:SkruhKidd2|SkruhKidd2]] ([[User talk:SkruhKidd2|talk]]) 13:26, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
:It is, apparently, a prepared story, although it is not being stored in [[Wikinews:Story preparation]]. {{re|Koavf}} Some might raise a [[WN:WWIN|not-a-web-host]] objection to this being stored in your userspace, which, they say, discourages collaboration. If you move it to story prep, beware articles there [[WN:PROD|may be deleted ten days after being tagged as "unsourced or largely unsourced"]]. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 16:11, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
::What do you recommend then? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 20:34, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
:It is. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 20:19, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
::Koavf, Jimmy might not die for awhile just saying, no one can predict death. [[User:SkruhKidd2|SkruhKidd2]] ([[User talk:SkruhKidd2|talk]]) 21:22, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
:::Of course not, but the obit of a president is a huge undertaking. I can 100% promise you that the ''New York Times'' has had a draft obituary for him for decades. Rather than scramble to write this after he's dead, it makes sense to get started now. There should be draft obituaries for a host of public figures. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 21:31, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
:::Eh. I'm fine if it sits here for now. I know this isn't Wikipedia, but the userspace over there is chock-full of utterly useless garbage that veers far further over the NOTWEBHOST line than this. IMO, not concerned about discouraging collaboration if the alternative is keeping it offline in a text editor file or something to avoid a PROD issue as it is developed. [[User:Tyrol5|Tyrol5]] ([[User talk:Tyrol5|talk]]) 22:44, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
::::(The usual way to avoid a prepared story qualifying for that PROD criterion would be adding sourcing for the background information — which is probably going to be most of a prepared story (one of the arguments for adopting that requirement was that there were stories in prep containing tons of unsourced material, which would therefore actually slow publication when the event happened)). [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 23:54, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::Hey, far be it for me, of all people, to critique doing things out of order — different strokes &c. — but fair enough. [[User:Tyrol5|Tyrol5]] ([[User talk:Tyrol5|talk]]) 00:43, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
::::::I personally don't see an issue with storing this in userspace in this case, where the prepared material has an obvious use in the near future. I'd ''prefer'' if it was sourced from the beginning to ensure verifiability doesn't become an issue later, but that's not a requirement if it's in userspace as far as I know. I realize "the usual way" may seem to imply I think this way's unacceptable; but, my 23:54 comment was just intended to provide explanation, as asked for above, of what I would recommend if Koavf removed it from userspace. Maybe I should've placed it further up the page, but I felt like a more generally-directed remark was warranted. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 02:27, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::::Good deal. I'm surprised anyone even ''found'' this since it has the NOINDEX magic word. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 02:58, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
::::::::Oh, I saw it in RC. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 03:50, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
== He's still alive ==
Jimmy Carter - Wikipedia he hasn't died from what I'm reading. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:45, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:45, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
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== Alive ==
Is this a prepared? because he is currently alive according to valid news sources, Wikipedia. [[User:SkruhKidd2|SkruhKidd2]] ([[User talk:SkruhKidd2|talk]]) 13:26, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
:It is, apparently, a prepared story, although it is not being stored in [[Wikinews:Story preparation]]. {{re|Koavf}} Some might raise a [[WN:WWIN|not-a-web-host]] objection to this being stored in your userspace, which, they say, discourages collaboration. If you move it to story prep, beware articles there [[WN:PROD|may be deleted ten days after being tagged as "unsourced or largely unsourced"]]. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 16:11, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
::What do you recommend then? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 20:34, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
:It is. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 20:19, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
::Koavf, Jimmy might not die for awhile just saying, no one can predict death. [[User:SkruhKidd2|SkruhKidd2]] ([[User talk:SkruhKidd2|talk]]) 21:22, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
:::Of course not, but the obit of a president is a huge undertaking. I can 100% promise you that the ''New York Times'' has had a draft obituary for him for decades. Rather than scramble to write this after he's dead, it makes sense to get started now. There should be draft obituaries for a host of public figures. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 21:31, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
:::Eh. I'm fine if it sits here for now. I know this isn't Wikipedia, but the userspace over there is chock-full of utterly useless garbage that veers far further over the NOTWEBHOST line than this. IMO, not concerned about discouraging collaboration if the alternative is keeping it offline in a text editor file or something to avoid a PROD issue as it is developed. [[User:Tyrol5|Tyrol5]] ([[User talk:Tyrol5|talk]]) 22:44, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
::::(The usual way to avoid a prepared story qualifying for that PROD criterion would be adding sourcing for the background information — which is probably going to be most of a prepared story (one of the arguments for adopting that requirement was that there were stories in prep containing tons of unsourced material, which would therefore actually slow publication when the event happened)). [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 23:54, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::Hey, far be it for me, of all people, to critique doing things out of order — different strokes &c. — but fair enough. [[User:Tyrol5|Tyrol5]] ([[User talk:Tyrol5|talk]]) 00:43, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
::::::I personally don't see an issue with storing this in userspace in this case, where the prepared material has an obvious use in the near future. I'd ''prefer'' if it was sourced from the beginning to ensure verifiability doesn't become an issue later, but that's not a requirement if it's in userspace as far as I know. I realize "the usual way" may seem to imply I think this way's unacceptable; but, my 23:54 comment was just intended to provide explanation, as asked for above, of what I would recommend if Koavf removed it from userspace. Maybe I should've placed it further up the page, but I felt like a more generally-directed remark was warranted. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 02:27, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::::Good deal. I'm surprised anyone even ''found'' this since it has the NOINDEX magic word. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 02:58, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
::::::::Oh, I saw it in RC. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 03:50, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
== He's still alive ==
Jimmy Carter - Wikipedia he hasn't died from what I'm reading. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:45, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:45, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
:Correct, he has not died. As you can see, this is a draft. In actual news organizations, it is very common to pre-write an obituary of a famous person, so it can rapidly published. I am 100% certain that ''The New York Times'', ''Washington Post'', etc. have pre-written obituaries for Jimmy Carter. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 21:52, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
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== User page deletion ==
I have requested my user page on Wikinews be deleted. I am not requesting my user account here be deleted. I'm hoping the verbiage on the banner is incorrect.
I have created a global user page with meta.[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Michael.C.Wright] I would like to use the one profile for all wiki sister projects. An example is my profile on commons: [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Michael.C.Wright User:Michael.C.Wright] is actually the global user page [[wikipedia:Help:Transclusion|transcluded]] to commons.
Thank you!
[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User talk:Michael.C.Wright|talk]]) 14:42, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
:Well, it is impossible for technical reasons to delete an account, even for stewards/global sysops, so at worst the request would just be declined. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 14:44, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
::Okay. That sounds promising. If there are any questions about global accounts, here is the page on meta: [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_user_pages Global user pages].
::Thank you for the clarification.
::[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User talk:Michael.C.Wright|talk]]) 14:58, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
== Awards ==
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<br> For completing ''5 edits''.
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<br> {{{1|{{{for|For getting your first article published!}}}}}}
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|style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | {{{2|{{{message|A very thoroughly researched one, too! And good to see you're looking through the archives-one can gain a lot of insight into the history, people, and rules of ''Wikinews'' by doing that. --[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 04:54, 15 March 2023 (UTC)}}}}}}
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:Thank you [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] for the awards! [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User talk:Michael.C.Wright|talk]]) 15:30, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
== Category ==
You can create a [[:Category:Wikinews authors|Wikinewsie category]] for yourself to keep track of your articles, if you want, by the way. Also you can add the correct one of [[Wikinews:Contributing Reporter Awards|these]] to your user page, if you want. It's just for fun, really. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 16:14, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
:Thanks! Will do. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User talk:Michael.C.Wright|talk]]) 16:50, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
== Senate just voted for 2002 AUMF repeal ==
[https://apnews.com/article/senate-repeal-iraq-war-authorization-85be03d5aedc8a28459195160bfaad3c?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=TopNews&utm_campaign=position_01 FYI]. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 17:36, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
:Yeah. I planned on writing something today. Thanks. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:35, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
== [[US appeals court upholds ruling lawyer for ex-President Trump must cooperate with federal investigation]] ==
This did go stale. I do want to say: please check the edit history and its "diffs" (click "prev" in the history) after each review (including on this article) to see what you can improve in the future. Addressing those things can significantly speed up review. There just wasn't the time to finish this. Reviewing often is, in my experience, actually much more labor-intensive than writing, which did surprise me. You write detailed articles with a lot of background, which I appreciate, and I don't intend to discourage that, but it is a fact they require more time to review (not necessarily a bad thing). [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 00:18, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
::Since it is stale and now needs Gatwicked, I don't plan on continuing work on that article unless another editor or reviewer see's benefit in me doing so. There will certainly be more news on that subject for us to cover in the future.
::I do know my articles take more time to review and I am sympathetic to that fact. I actively seek recommendations from reviewers on ways to prepare an article for easier review. I've also [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/technical#Wikinews_editing_and_reviewing_template_feature_request|proposed technical changes]] that I think will benefit both authors and reviewers here.
::From my brief experience with Wikinews, the review process is one key hinderance to Wikinews being agile and able to produce timely, relevant articles. If we can figure out how to make that process easier and more efficient without reducing the thoroughness of the process, I believe we'd make progress.
::Regarding the length of the articles I write; I read through the sources you linked at a recent [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Comments|discussion at the water cooler]], specifically other comments at the Meta page [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_English_Wikinews Proposals for closing projects/Closure of English Wikinews]. There are comments such as "...a lot of these are very short" and "...none of them has any real depth." I ''generally'' agree with those comments.
::A short Wikinews article that is not original reporting is more than likely, mostly a paraphrase of existing news. In those cases, it provides little value to Wikinews readers above what they'd get from the original news source. The value I try to bring is providing deeper background and synthesis — synthesis of sources to provide a richer background, not in arriving at new or unique conclusions.
::I'm not a journalist and won't be doing much, if any original reporting. Therefore, the value I can bring is mainly articles with more depth and cohesion between articles, i.e., tracking news developments regarding AUMFs over the course of multiple articles.
::I know you aren't trying to discourage longer articles. I'm offering here a bit of explanation into motive, in hopes of furthering the discussion around improving the writing and reviewing process because I do see that as a core hurdle hindering the number and depth of articles, ''generally speaking''.
::[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:31, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
== Specialty Coffee Expo ==
Did you ever end up getting to go to that? If you did and just haven't written it up yet, there's certainly still time per precedent for OR (and the rules are bent more often for OR than synthesis; looking back, the last OR pieces of comparable significance were from about 2014).
BTW, I must have been pressed for time when I first saw what you wrote above. I just read it in full, and you clearly [[wikt:grok|grok]] the problems we face, and offer good solutions. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 21:17, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
:I did [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnYNnnPxInA&list=PLCcuGXzqCcKBDA8TEInz-qOMwn-gPi6AS three on-camera interviews] but two of the three were quite coffee-centric and I didn't think that was a good angle for a general audience at wikinews. I thought about doing spot interviews of random attendees but ended up prioritizing other networking while there. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
:[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:54, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
::It's understandable to a general audience and interesting (in my view); not as niche as many of the articles in [[:Category:Halloween]] (specifically, the Haunters Conventions). That could be a great article even with just minimal text introduction (depending on how much time you have to work on it). [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 15:51, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
::Sorry for butting in here.
::Just wanted to say that I would find such an article of interest. I am saying this as a reader of Wikinews who knows coffee tastes good and that's about all I know, [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 16:20, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
::Documenting the event (assuming you have additional photographs) and interspersing it with bits and pieces from the interviews surely would be newsworthy [[:WN:OR]]. The full videos of the interviews could then be linked (if uploaded to Commons) for those coffee aficionados who want to get in deep. Or it could be an article about Indonesia's efforts to gain market share in the US. (Guessing the Ted Fishcer interview would be less applicable for the latter option.). Cheers, [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 17:42, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
:::I should have time on Friday to dive deeper into this. I'm pleasantly surprised by the interest! [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 12:43, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
::::Sorry guys. I just didn't have time to do the article any justice. I had other priorities that needed my attention. The good news is that if things pan out the way I hope they will, I will have an opportunity to do some original reporting on coffee production in Africa. Fingers crossed! [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:14, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
:::::Ah, OK. Well, Africa OR would be extra good, offer something the regular media usually does not (since they practically only cover Africa when something tragic or destabilizing happens). [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 15:10, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
== Coffee quote ==
Hi again, {{PAGENAME}} I found a coffee quote for you at wikiqote. I hope you like it:
<blockquote>Just the other day, I was in my neighborhood Starbucks, waiting for the post office to open. I was enjoying a chocolatey cafe mocha when it occurred to me that to drink a mocha is to gulp down the entire history of the New World. From the Spanish exportation of Aztec cacao, and the Dutch invention of the chemical process for making cocoa, on down to the capitalist empire of Hershey, PA, and the lifestyle marketing of Seattle's Starbucks, the modern mocha is a bittersweet concoction of imperialism, genocide, invention, and consumerism served with whipped cream on top. No wonder it costs so much. ~ [[q:Sarah Vowell]]</blockquote> [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 15:39, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
:Nice! Thanks for sharing. Wikiquote is a project I've been interested in contributing to, just never have.
:One of the coffee quotes I've collected: "Good communication is as stimulating as black coffee, and just as hard." - Anne Spencer
:And there's always the very quotable Dave Grohl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=fhdCslFcKFU
:[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:22, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
== Advice on getting an article reviewed ==
Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], I really appreciate your contributions here and I wanted to reach out to you for advice on how to get my first article reviewed. I originally wrote it as a prepared story two days in advance of an event on February 16-17, but then I was unable to get a complete review. I have [[WN:GATWICK]]ed the article several times since then, but I fear this will be its last chance to get reviewed before it goes stale and gets deleted. I've reached out to five administrators and several other reviewers in the last three weeks but all have either said they are too busy to review it or not responded yet.
The article is here: [[Two world records fall at the World Athletics Indoor Championships]]. Understanding that you are not a reviewer, do you have any advice for me such as ideas to improve the article and bring it up to Wikinews standards, to make a future reviewer's workload easier and to increase the chances it will be published?
Thank you,
--[[User:Habst|Habst]] ([[User talk:Habst|talk]]) 21:37, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
:I'm glad you're sticking with it and really trying to contribute.
:Here are some quick tips—things to keep in mind that I've learned along the way (and don't always achieve myself). In some of the tips I provide specifics for you. Hopefully this helps!
:* Longer articles with many sources take longer to review.
:** The review process here is pretty stringent and thorough. In my experience, the reviewers seem to read every sourced article.
:** Be sure to remove sources if facts you use are established in another of your sources (I make this mistake frequently)
:** Wikinews definitely benefits from longer, in-depth articles and I personally prefer to write longer articles with a lot of background. ''However'', they are harder to get published. Pick your poison. ;)
:* The title states the main point of the article. If your title mentions two broken world records, that's what the article should talk about; who, what, when, where, why, and how two world records were broken. This is the [[WN:5W&H]]
:** Based on your title and the lede, how does the last section of the article fit? If you could cut that entire last section and sources associated with it, that could help the reviewer.
:**Similarly with the second section. The second section doesn't mention Bol, Charlton, or the two broken world records.
:* In longer, more complicated articles, I indicate to the reviewer my source for a given statement or paragraph. I do this using HTML comments. You can see it in pre-reviewed versions of some of my articles.[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=US_Supreme_Court_blocks_stay_on_federal_regulation_on_privately_made_firearms&action=edit&oldid=4740630] Look for text such as this: <code><nowiki><!--Source: Everytown--></nowiki></code>
:** That tells the reviewer that a specific fact or statement can be found in a specific article.
:** The reviewer removes them as they review the article so they aren't in published versions.
:** Not all reviewers see or use those comments.
:* Be sure to structure your article according to [[WN:PYRAMID]].
:** Readers get hooked by your title and are reeled in by your lede
:** Your lede should answer the 5w's and summarize the entire article (and should be able to stand alone)
:I like the style in which you've written the article. I would recommend looking at past sports articles that have been published on Wikinews to see the format and style they followed. I'm not saying you should robotically follow them, but they will show you what is acceptable. I seem to recall I had an article with sections and the sections were removed as part of the review process...I'll look to see if I can find it.
:For whatever reason, things are really quiet here right now. No new articles have been published since January 4th. I had an article go stale without review last month. I just posted another for review today and intentionally kept the article as short and to-the-point as possible in an attempt to make it as easy as possible to get something new posted. Maybe for your first article and given the quietness we're currently seeing, you cut down your article to the smallest size you can stomach so that you can go through the review process and experience it.
:Based on the dates of the articles included by the {{tl|athletics}} infobox, we could really use a sports writer!
:[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 23:16, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], thank you so much for your detailed advice. I have changed the title and the lede keeping this in mind, so that the main point is communicated clearly and is reflected in the title and body. I'll work on adding the HTML-comment inline source attributions if anything isn't clear.
::It seems like [[US Supreme Court Rules Unanimously, Keeping Trump On Colorado Ballot|your new article]] (which I do appreciate) has just been taken out from under review today ― this is the same thing that happened to my article before it went stale, so I fear the same thing will happen to yours. I was wondering if, based on Asheiou's response to your question at [[Wikinews:Flagged revisions/Requests for permissions/Asheiou]], could you please vote (not asking you to vote one particular way or another)? I think your input is important, because you are one of the two or three active community members who are writing articles this year (technically, there are zero members who have published articles since Jan 4) and the requester is uncomfortable with taking reviewer action without community consensus. Thank you, --[[User:Habst|Habst]] ([[User talk:Habst|talk]]) 16:00, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
:::I do intend to vote but I would like to hear more from Asheiou as well as other editors. I find Bawolff's comments interesting and would like to hear more about that as well—specifically what a new version of the review process might look like.
:::I like that enWikinews has a stringent and thorough review process. I appreciate the feedback I've gotten from reviewers and feel the resultant, published articles are always better than what I posted for review. But the lack of reviewers to perform that process is effectively blocking new content. One quick and easy solution to that is to simply add more reviewers. And one unintended consequence of that may be reduced quality in the review process.
:::I am interested in hearing what other editors ask Asheiou and what her answers are. If no one else asks questions, I'll ask more. But right now I don't want to dominate the process by peppering her with my own questions.
:::Lastly, I've had four articles go stale so far. I've gatwicked a couple and let a couple more go unpublished. As frustrating as that is—to spend the time putting an article together only to have it not reviewed and be deleted—I don't want to rush the process simply to get one article reviewed. I'd like to explore a solution to the current log-jam that is least likely to cause new problems later. If that means another, complete overhaul of the review system, I'd like to hear ideas of what that looks like.
:::I don't think we're at a stage where we should improvise a solution (but I'm open to be proven otherwise). The way I see it, raw page-views of en.wikinews surprisingly aren't dropping.[https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/en.wikinews.org/reading/total-page-views/normal|bar|2-year|~total|monthly] That obviously won't last without new content. But I think we have some time yet to be intentional.
:::[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 16:54, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
== Hi. ==
I started a new story hopefully I can get more information soon, thanks, also if you need anything don't hesitate to ask me, thanks!!! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:16, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
:[[File:Thumbs-up-icon.svg|Thumbs-up-icon]] I posted on the Collab page of the new article. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 00:32, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:30, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
::Have a good night Michael. Talk soon. Thanks for the helping hands! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:45, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
== PGP?? ==
What is this PGP key business??--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 18:58, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
:PGP is encryption software.[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy] Individuals can use my PGP key to encrypt messages to me. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 19:36, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
:It can also be used to verify identity, sign messages, etc. Unfortunately, it isn't very user friendly, so it never got the broad acceptance it should have. I've used it in some form or fashion for almost 30 years. I used to carry a copy on a 3.5" floppy. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 21:48, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
== Article??? ==
Palestinians article close to publish or review??? Thnx [[Special:Contributions/64.39.81.54|64.39.81.54]] ([[User talk:64.39.81.54|talk]]) 21:25, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
:Are you referring to the article titled "[[12 Palestinians, possibly more, drown trying to get aid parcels dropped into the sea]]?" If so, work is being done on it to get it ready for review. I'm not a reviewer, so I can only help get it ready prior to someone else reviewing it. You are also welcome to contribute to it. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] started the article and is currently the main contributor. You might check in with him to see how you can work together. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 21:31, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
::The IP is me Michael sorry for confusing [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:36, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
:::Ahhh. I thought the three question marks (???) looked familiar.
:::Whenever you feel it's ready for review, feel free to re-submit it. I just wanted to get some of the basic stuff ironed out before a reviewer maybe rejected it. The orange banner and [Not Ready] can be a de-motivator. ;) [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 23:13, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
::::In your opinion do you think it's ready? I'm not sure and I hope it doesn't go stale, lately my articles have been doing better. [[Special:Contributions/64.39.81.54|64.39.81.54]] ([[User talk:64.39.81.54|talk]]) 00:36, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::I think it could be published as is. It exceeds the [[WN:PROD|minimal amount of three sentences]]. If it were me, I'd expand it more. The CNN article presents three points of view that you could write about: Hamas would like the airdrops stopped, humanitarian bodies assert that Israel is using starvation as a weapon, and a US official says the amount of aid arriving by land is increasing. Both articles mention that the airdrops are located in a way that makes it more likely they'll land in the water.
:::::This might be an odd way to look at it; but I'd personally expand the article at least enough so that the sections from "Have an opinion?" and lower all fall below the image on the left. That makes the article look better/fuller in my opinion.
:::::The nonexistent [[:category:Gaza]] should also either be created or removed from the article. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:19, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::FYI, there's already a [[:Category:Gaza Strip]]. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 14:57, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
== Copyrighted ==
I thought they looked suspicious just saying. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:14, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
:Yeah. They all look suspicious. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 01:34, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
::If you don't like suspicious, revert to remove copyright violations by editing and not copy-pasting the news, but "Amber Alert cancelled after B.C. infant" and "Rare 4.8 earthquake hits New Jersey and New York" does not like the copyright violations on news, such as the websites that copy-pasted edits, is not suspicious but it's normal. Yay. [[Special:Contributions/199.212.250.163|199.212.250.163]] ([[User talk:199.212.250.163|talk]]) 15:42, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
== Hi Michael ==
How's my article looking so far? Thanks. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:18, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] im going offline for now talk soon. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:26, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
::Which article? [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 18:23, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Bargi_plant_in_central_Italy_felt_with_explosion [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:09, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
::::Without digging too deeply into it, I can see there are two broken (red) links. There are line-breaks or carriage returns in the middle of the first and third sentences. Remember also to attribute all images using {{tl|image}} and to describe the image with a full sentence, and mention it's a file image if it pre-dates the story. Those things should be corrected before a reviewer gets to it (to save their time).
::::If it were me, I'd also expand it with some background. Also, the article states "At least three people were killed and four other bodies are missing..." That implies we know four people are dead (four ''bodies''), but we don't, as of today.[https://apnews.com/article/italy-explosion-hydroelectric-plant-9bad887184d623bf7cf828fc03b5df53] You could improve that sentence by saying: "At least three people were killed and four others are missing..." [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 23:49, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
== New article ==
I submitted a new article. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:10, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
:I responded in the article talk page. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:49, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
== When there's a long string of edits that need to be reverted ==
Like [[Special:Contributions/181.77.35.112|here]], instead of reverting them one by one, you can go back to the diff immediately before the first edit, like [[Special:Diff/4776306]], click the edit tab, and then save. That reverts everything afterwards and is a lot faster. Also, you can warn disruptive users if you want, but there's no requirement to on this project. Thanks for your work both on countervandalism and evaluating submissions, it is really helpful. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 14:50, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
:I figured there had to be a better way of doing that. Thanks for the tip and the kind words. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:30, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
== My word! ==
This is horribly past due!
[[File:Wikinews WikiNoob.png|89px|left|This [[Wikinews:Contributing Reporter Awards|award]] is presented to new reporters who have started 10 or fewer news articles.]]
---[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:54, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
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:Thanks! You know the interns routinely get pizza on Fridays, right? [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:58, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
== And: if only for your perseverance, a Cool Cat award! ==
You deserve this!
[[File:Cool Cat Barnstar 01.png|thumb|left|200px|You deserve this, you Cool Cat!]]
---[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:03, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
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== Hey BigKrow ==
@[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]], I was going to leave this message on your talk page, but there's some wonkiness with it. Your talk page is being [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:BigKrow&redirect=no redirected] to a template. Was that vandalism?
The message is this: you don't have to delete the whole article [[Clear message after bomb threats three Tucson, Arizona area schools]] if you want to continue working on it. Just remove or completely change the last sentence and move on. Mistakes happen.
Let me know if you need help fixing your talk page.
[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 02:06, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] It still needs a lot of work but, I hopefully got rid of the Copyvios??? Thanks. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
::[[File:Thumbs-up-icon.svg|Thumbs-up-icon]]
::[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 02:21, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
== IP harassment ==
I pinged @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] this needs to stop @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:47, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
:Agreed. I think we should implement a long-term block on the entire IP range, as recommended here: [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:Bddpaux#Recommend_blocking_anonymous_only_from_199.212.250.0/24] and less clearly here: [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Admin_action_alerts#c-Michael.C.Wright-20240424012600-2607:FEA8:1F1D:8400:799:28CC:56E3:DF38-20240423215000]. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 16:58, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
== Check User please ==
2607:FEA8:1F1D:8400:FAF9:19F7:C1C3:D56 [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:49, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
:It's likely our friend from Canada. An admin needs to block a couple of IP ranges to help combat the disruption. We had a temporary block of the IPv6 range but it expired. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:29, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
== My user talk page ==
It was vandalised and now has nothing there anyway you or others might be able to restore? Thanks much. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:26, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
:The vandalism is a rat's nest for sure. Was there more content that you are missing beyond the comments here: [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:DroofusUniversal.com/Annex&oldid=4774633]? [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 16:53, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
::That vandal account created that page and overrided my whole talk page, yes that is my entire history of my talk page, thank you for trying to help! @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:58, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
:::It might take an admin to delete your current talk page and then to move [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:DroofusUniversal.com/Annex&oldid=4774633 this version of your old talk page] to your new/current talk page. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 16:59, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] thanks Michael. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:00, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] We found BigKrow's old talk page along with history here: [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:DroofusUniversal.com/Annex&oldid=4774633].
:::::I am unable to move that page to make it the current User_talk:BigKrow because that page already exists. I think it will take an admin to delete the current talk page and rename [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:DroofusUniversal.com/Annex&oldid=4774633 this version] to become the new/current User_talk:BigKrow.
:::::<strike>I believe this may be how the talk page became a redirect in the first place. When you try to move a page, it gives this message: "Note that the page will not be moved if there is already a page at the new title, unless it is a redirect and has no past edit history." So I think someone was trying to fix it by making the talk page a redirect so they could then move it.</strike> [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 17:09, 26 April 2024 (UTC); edited [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 17:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
::::::Thanks everyone appreciate it. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:13, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::::I struck part of my earlier comment. The redirect was created with the first move/rename of the talk page. But then somehow a template was involved and a rat's nest ensued. If only the vandals would focus that energy into ''constructive'' editing. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 17:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
::::::::I know, right, sigh.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:25, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::* Posting to simply prevent auto-archive. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:51, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
== Pre-review ==
For the sake of chatter: I'm not opposed to that process. We could use a bit of streamlining in that regard. I look forward to seeing how it might play out over a year or so.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 01:55, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
== Hi. ==
Just saying hi, we haven't talked in awhile, hope you're well. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:34, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
:Hello! Yes, I was AFK for a few days. We took a long weekend in the mountains for some R&R. Things weren't quiet around here I see, LOL. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:35, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], Welcome back! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:44, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
== Mistakes ==
Hi, Michael @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], I messed up the Texas weather article by mistake, any help? Thanks. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:26, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:36, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
== Boston Celtics defeat Dallas Mavericks ==
Hello, please review the article I wrote about the Celtics' win against the Mavs. Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/173.76.102.69|173.76.102.69]] ([[User talk:173.76.102.69|talk]]) 19:21, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
:Please note I am not a reviewer and can neither review nor publish articles. However, I may have time today to take a look at it and make some suggestions. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:25, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
== pre-review ==
I give you all the credit in the world for working on it, Cheers!!! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:57, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
:Thanks, but it is a team sport. ツ Hopefully it develops into something helpful. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 17:03, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
::Sounds good, but I also wanted to thank you for your work on your testing pre-review! @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:05, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
== OMG CAT TITS account ==
Is that name appropriate for wikinews? Thanks just curious sounds like a possibility of a bad editor. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:31, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], this one too Manifestation of the Witch's Titty [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:33, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
::{{user2|OMG CAT TITS}}
::If you find it offensive, I recommend raising the issue at [[WN:AAA]], where administrators (or possibly global stewards) can review it in accordance with our username policy ([[WN:U]]). If you do post to WN:AAA, it is always helpful to use the {{tl|user2}} template, which links to the user page, talk page, contribs page, etc. It's what I used just above.
::Alternatively, you could also address your concerns directly with the user on their talk page. I agree that the username is not indicative of someone who intends to contribute constructively to the project, and it may indeed be a violation of our policy. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:04, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
:::Same with {{user2|Manifestation of the Witch's Titty}}. I don't see how that username indicates someone who is serious about writing news articles and I can see how it could be offensive to some. –[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:07, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
== Pings inter wiki ==
I think they work. I just pinged you on another wiki, did you get it?
Needed to type your name manually, just "@Michael.C." offered no results there (it does show your account name here for that). [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:41, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
:It worked, but maybe because you posted on my user-talk page there, whereas when I tried it from a regular page, the other user didn't seem to get pinged. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:34, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], interwiki pings do work (but I think the user might need to have an account on that wiki). [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 11:42, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
::interesting , important condition [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:52, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
== Continuing discussion from your reviewer request... ==
It's getting off topic so Ill reply here...
Mainly the fact that I've essentially been here for under 4 months, and I only have 11-12 published articles (much lower than virtually any reviewer). Also, I haven't done or pre-reviewed any OR, and there was a pre-review where I didn't really know the policy on something. Yes, I would like to become a reviewer, but do you (or anyone else) think that I am ready for it? [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 16:41, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
:I think you would learn it quickly and if there were an active reviewer willing and able to mentor you, it could work. You also figure out the mechanics of Mediawiki quickly (i.e., how to update the Main page, templates, etc). You are persistent and can be dogged with certain things. One of the things I learned from my block at WP is that some people don't take doggedness too well, justifiably or not. If your goal is to collaborate more and work towards consensus more, consider trying to figure out how to adjust that doggedness or more importantly how it's presented so that it is more-often perceived as collaborative rather than combative. I have to work very hard on that myself. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 17:58, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you. I see that we have now arrived at the point in every discussion about improving Wikinews, the "this could work if there were active reviewers". Hopefully you being a reviewer can help with that. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 18:34, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
:::http://quassel-irc.org
:::Do you have a list of your published articles somewhere? @[[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]]
:::Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:38, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] nah, just check the 20 most recent published articles, the majority are mine... [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 00:55, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
== [[Google reports thirteen percent increase in greenhouse gas emissions]] ==
Hi, I am going through Newsroom deleting stale articles. I just found the one linked in section heading. I enjoyed the read and it looks like an important topic that is not immediately stale if they're still having that increased energy usage. Would you be interested in interviewing Google and several major giants (Microsoft, Facebook/Meta, OpenAI) about this, for example, by video call or email?
If so, the first step would be to add a note on article that it is being worked on to do interview, and make a list of questions on the talk page. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 20:02, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
== [[Special:Diff/4797232|This]]... ==
...was human error, I was aiming for the 'thank' link but the mouse slipped. Thought I'd let you know. Thanks for the tag. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:54, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
:Ahh, no worries. Thanks for letting me know! —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 12:47, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
== [[Special:Diff/4796888]] ==
Could this be also marked as abandoned? It was not edited for many days before. (Perhaps the 'stale' template could automatically change itself to Abandoned if no edits were made for N days. I haven't explored how this could work from technical perspective, yet.) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:08, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
:Yes.
:{{tq|Perhaps the 'stale' template could automatically change itself to Abandoned if no edits were made for N days.}} The CategoryTests extension[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTests] might be useful in that situation, but it isn't installed. I have tried to use it with a Pre-review category to automate certain maintenance functions around that template.
:I'm not sure how to accurately test for the duration an article has been in a given category. Perhaps DPL could be used if we had a more robust version of DPL. But also, I believe Mediawiki is replacing DPL eventually. It has caused problems when used heavily by a project, specifically ru.WN on their main page.
:Anyway if we can figure out how to automatically change categories based on duration in one or another given category, we could use the function in {{tl|copyvio}} as well, to mark violations with speedy delete after 48 hours of being in [[:Category:Copyright violations]]. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:19, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
== Congratulations on the successful request for Reviewer permissions ==
Hi [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]
Congratulations on the <span class="plainlinks">[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews:Flagged_revisions/Requests_for_permissions/Michael.C.Wright&diff=prev&oldid=4797553 successful request]</span> for Reviewer permissions. You are now able to formally review and publish articles. After the review you will be presented with a step to add the new published article to home page.
There are several places where you can ask a question:
* [[User talk:Michael.C.Wright|This talk page]] is likely being watched by several contributors involved in discussions at the request.
* Article talk page, if related to article and contributors are being helpful.
* [[Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance]] can be used to discuss concerns worth keeping, in case they apply to more than one article. (Other sections of water cooler exist for policy, technical, proposals, and miscellaneous issues.)
* [[Wikinews:AAA|Administrator noticeboard (AAA)]] in case sysop action like a block or a page deletion is required.
* [[Wikinews:IRC|Live chat]] for real time discussions, with '#wikinews-en' for English Wikinews, and '#wikinews' for international-related or translations-related discussions that may require attention from other language editions, and '#wikinews-tech' for technical discussions.
Please let me know if you need help at any point.
Again, welcome to reviewing; thanks for volunteering, and have a great day!
Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:05, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
:Thank you. I look forward to working with you. I know I can rely on you for advice and mentorship. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:11, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
== Re: the helicopter story ==
I have just replied to you at the article talk page. (Please advise whether you want to continue getting such notes on your personal talk page, or you already receive Notifications through the wiki.) Thanks and best regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:11, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
:I have my preferences set up so that any page I edit gets added to my watchlist automagically. I also keep an eye on the ''recent changes'' special page. With our low volume of edits, that combination keeps me pretty much up-to-date.
:Pings and/or heads-up are always welcome on my talk page, as long as the necessary discussion remains as centralized as possible. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:24, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
== scoop access ==
Hi, congratulations on receiving the reviewer bits! As I understand, now as a reviewer, you should be granted the scoop access. Would you be able to hop in on IRC some time, so I can talk to you about it and grant you the access, so you can proceed with reviewing ORs? [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 16:26, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
:I am on it now (nick: MichaelCWright) and just sent a message to you there. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 16:46, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
::Sorry, I got an important work in between and I had to leave, so I could not detail everything. However, I will use the EmailUser feature to send you information later today. Once I get the acknowledgement on that, I shall create the email. By the way, do you use any email client on your computer?<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 02:06, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
:::I am fine with just using webmail to check Scoop, I won't need to configure any email app for that, if that is what you are asking. I will likely configure my Scoop account to forward emails to my personal account, if that is possible. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:27, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
:::I have not received anything via EmailUser. Did you send it? I have alternative contact info on my userpage. Thank you, [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:26, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
== Wikibreak (over) ==
I'll be offline for up to the next seven days and won't be checking in during that time. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:32, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
:Are you still there by any chance? The helicopter story looks ready, and freshness is about to expire now. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:36, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] pinged. Please respond. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 23:43, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
:::[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] & [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], sorry I missed your requests! As soon as I signed off here, I hit the road for a long-planned backpacking trip. I am back now. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:27, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
::::Welcome back. Wow, that sounds good. I hope you enjoyed the trip.
::::In the newsroom there is a story which I edited, about the exploded pagers, which I cannot review.
::::Could you please skim all stories in review queue and pick something that looks relatively easy to publish? I keep finding something to pick on and not publishing anything. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:10, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
== Congratulations ==
Didn't get a chance to congratulate you before you left. Not sure there was really a consensus there (only one reviewer weighed in) but fine. We all know what happened last time; and I don't want to create the impression I'm trying to stir up drama by doing this repeatedly. I may not have opposed, actually (wow, what a vote of confidence). I just wanted to say, of any of the regulars who weren't reviewers, I'd have trusted you to handle the job best because of your knowledge of your own limited knowledge (of course, there's what you do know, too) — and I can see you demonstrating that already. Did I mention [[WN:Tips on reviewing articles]] at some point? Really, really helpful. I use the checklist every time (you mentioned you developed your own checklist based on a 2010 discussion, but this one's been kept up to date and it's just detailed enough). [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 05:59, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
:Thank you. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:41, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
== Prime Minister of Canada Justin Trudeau survives a no confidence vote ==
Thanks for reviewing the article. The article on the main page where there is a photo, still has Prime Minister of Canada Justin Trudeau passes confidence vote title. [[User:BilboBeggins|BilboBeggins]] ([[User talk:BilboBeggins|talk]]) 17:15, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
:I got this fixed. It could have been that I chose the wrong article from the widget/gadget that helps update the lead articles on the main page after one published an article. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:30, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
== California ied article ==
Getting close to staleness if not already hoping u can review it again? Thanks. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 14:27, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:For some reason I missed this message, I do apologize.
:I would have published it per my pre-review, but @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] still has it under review. It has now gone stale and will need to be [[WN:Gatwicking|Gatwicked]] and re-reviewed to be published.
:In hindsight, I'm not sure my plan as a new reviewer to pre-review articles that have time before going stale was a good idea. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:30, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
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== clarification question ==
Hi @[[User:Lesless|Lesless]] 👋🏻
What is "Cebuano, Warai" and "Dutch, Swedish"? Page names or site section names? Could you explain in article, and wikilink if possible, please?
[[WN:5W|How]] did you calculate the name of the 2000000th article? I know one source has this information, but there is confusing, but I did not fully understand.
Thanks, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:16, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
:[[:w:ru:Википедия:Ботопедия]]. [[User:Lesless|Lesless]] ([[User talk:Lesless|talk]]) 04:53, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
:По вычислению двухмиллионной статьи. Это было в некоторой степени "политическое решение" (русский фразеологизм, не обязательно про политику). Так как статьи постоянно добавлялись и удалялись, двухмиллионное место плавало, технически, видимо, отметку в 2000000 преодолела статья, которая была сразу удалена. "Музыка" была следующей. [[User:Lesless|Lesless]] ([[User talk:Lesless|talk]]) 08:14, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
== related discussion ==
[[Wikinews:Water_cooler/assistance#Urgent_-_OR?_-_Sourcing_requirements_-_Russian_Wikipedia:_now_2,000,000_articles|LINK]]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:21, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
== Notes ==
Possible OR:
* asked Russian Wikipedia forum to clarify what is automatic fill. Received link to Ботопедия from Lesless and they added it to article. I consulted the linked official documentation page and added information from it into the article.
* Checked how many pages the author of the reportedly 2000000th page wrote - on his user page. I also checked which page he is working on right now.
* Looked up on forum and on Wikimedia Commons pages , which users were involved in breaking the news and in creating the new logo.
* Checked user rights & roles of several users whom I linked and listed their roles in the article.
This is not OR, but I added attribution to the note about which article is 2000000th one, to reduce risk of misinformation.
The 3dnews source looks relatively independent.
I think this is probably the closest I can get to addressing all the known concerns to me. Maybe some of them are still not fully addressed. This is about as much as I think is possible to do.
I am happy to answer questions and to help further. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:03, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
== OR? ==
how? [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 15:10, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
:In the notes section above. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:54, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
== Status on this article ==
I have ''somewhat'' been following this talk page but only recently realized [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] is too involved in article development to review it.
The article was in the review queue but has been heavily edited recently so I moved it to developing.
Feel free to bounce it back to review when it's ready. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 01:12, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
:should be in review queue now [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:25, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
:(I'm surprised I edited the article yet was not automatically subscribed to its talk page; that's weird.) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:19, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
::I think in this case, given the language, you were best-suited to review this article. I think moving forward, it is best for you not to get involved with developing Russian-based stories so you can review them (unless of course you are the original author).
::I would like to review it, however the language barrier for me is quite steep. Machine translation does not do so well with ru → en. All of the sources are in Russian and most of the links point to content in Russian. Some of the discussion here is in Russian. I can not find English sources commenting on the focal event. That does support the assertion that this is better-suited for ru.WN and less-suited for en.WN.
::However, it could be argued that this article might be newsworthy to our Russian readers, of which we have a significant number. Russian is the top, non-English language for our viewers.[https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/langviews/?project=en.wikinews.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=latest-20&sort=views&direction=1&view=list&page=Main%20Page]
::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], some specific questions:
::* Have you established that this does represent OR?
::* The last sentence "In fact, the Russian Wikipedia is in fourth place after the English, German and French Wikipedias." doesn't square with [https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%B9/%D0%95%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0 this link] provided in the article, which places it at seventh, which is mentioned earlier in the article. To what is 'fourth' place regarding?
::* DTF should be listed in the sources at "DTF" and not ":ru:DTF", correct?
::{{ping|Heavy Water|Bddpaux|Acagastya}} do you have any input? Is this newsworthy for en.WN, given our high number of Russian-speaking readers? What problems/dangers do we face if we publish it and later find inaccuracies or problems? What problems would we face if we publish and there are no inaccuracies found?
::—[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:43, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]
:::* My OR involved adding which users discovered the news and who created logo
:::* And which story the author is working on (some other Nabokov story)
:::* Including how many pages he wrote. Which is a lot. Some 0.3% as said on user page. Existing othervreports on this news do not include this number.
:::* All this information is publicly available and did not require contacting anyone in private, because this is a wiki. The only time when I needed to ask someone a question was to get an explanation what "automatic fill" is on the ruwp forum, which was also a publicly available documentation page.
:::* So I dunno how this qualifies as OR or not. It did involve some digging more than "lookup 2M ruwp" and combine search results into one article. Yet, all sources of information are public because this is a wiki.
:::* If there are some doubts I can attempt to interview the person who wrote the 200000th page on-wiki. I don't know how successful I will be. Their user page says they do not like to be involved in talk page discussions because it is a waste of time oftentimes and involves interacting with people who are more interested in noise than in content writing. Let me know if you would like me to attempt this.
:::---
:::* About fourth place this sentence can be removed and if either myself or @[[User:Lesless|Lesless]] manage to answer within 24 hours after publishing then it can be re added.
:::* I used :ru:DTF for wikilink to work. There is ruwp article about it but not enwp.
:::Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 18:31, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Мне особенно понравилось ''"All of the sources are in Russian and most of the links point to content in Russian. Some of the discussion here is in Russian. I can not find English sources commenting on the focal event. That does support the assertion that this is better-suited for ru.WN and less-suited for en.WN".'' Послушайте, у нас международная энциклопедия. Все языки равны. Источники не перестают быть [[:w:ru:ВП:АИ|АИ]] от того, что они на другом языке. В русской Википедии и Русских Викиновостях принимаются англоязычные источники без ограничений. А у вас что, цензура? И это неправда, что Гугл-переводчик плохо работает ru → en. Я вот сейчас ниже покажу, как он перевёл этот текст. И источников сейчас больше трёх. Этого достаточно? Я уж молчу, что оригинальный репортаж на то и оригинальный, что не требует никаких источников вообще. Я и есть АИ. Я автор новости. По поводу четвёртого места. Это 7−3=4. Из семи вычитаем три ботопедии и получаем четвёртое место. Вам источник на это нужен? Ну есть вот такой источник, только там считали по-другому: [[meta:User:Ladsgroup/coverage_ranking_of_Wikipedia_languages]]. Для новостей о Википедии все источники могут быть внутри Википедии, это нормально! И меня очень удивил тот факт, что администраторы Викиновостей не знают очевиднейших вещей. Про заливки, ботопедии, места Википедий по языкам, выбор юбилейной статьи и прочих вещах, о которых в Русской Википедии знает почти каждый участник. [[User:Lesless|Lesless]] ([[User talk:Lesless|talk]]) 07:14, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
::: ru → en by Google translate
::: I especially liked ''"All of the sources are in Russian and most of the links point to content in Russian. Some of the discussion here is in Russian. I can not find English sources commenting on the focal event. That does support the assertion that this is better-suited for ru.WN and less-suited for en.WN".'' Look, we have an international encyclopedia. All languages are equal. Sources do not cease to be [[:w:en:Wikipedia:Reliable sources|Reliable sources]] just because they are in another language. The Russian Wikipedia and Russian Wikinews accept English-language sources without restrictions. Do you have censorship? And it is not true that Google Translate does not work well ru → en. I will show below how it translated this text (here it is). And there are now more than three sources. Is that enough? I will not even mention the fact that the original report is original because it does not require any sources at all. I am [[:w:en:Wikipedia:Reliable sources|Reliable source]]. I am the author of the news. Regarding fourth place. This is 7−3=4. From seven we subtract three botopedias and get fourth place. Do you need a source for this? Well, there is such a source, only they calculated differently there: [[meta:User:Ladsgroup/coverage_ranking_of_Wikipedia_languages]] + https://www.wikipedia.org/ - without botopedias. For news about Wikipedia, all sources may be inside Wikipedia, that's okay! And I was very surprised by the fact that Wikinews administrators do not know the most obvious things. About authomatic filling, botopedias, Wikipedia locations by language, choosing an anniversary article and other things that almost every user in Russian Wikipedia knows about. [[User:Lesless|Lesless]] ([[User talk:Lesless|talk]]) 07:25, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
::::In English there are a few main points,
::::* firstly foreign language sources are not issue for global news project like this one,
::::* secondly from list of large wikis a few wikis needed to be taken out as they are "botopedia" that is tiny stubs imported by bot. (Maybe it needs to be clarified in article).
::::** Supposedly each user in ruwp knows how botopedia and automatic fills work. [Gryllida never heard of it]
::::*And OR is Lesless himself as significant analysis included.
::::In reply: no, here Wikipedia is not considered reliable source.
::::In reply: this news is for international audience not enlightened about wiki workings, it needs to be clarified.
::::Hope it helps and please ask if any questions. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:21, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
::::: In Russian Wikinews, all news about Wikipedia is based solely on Wikipedia and does not require external sources. В Русских Викиновостях все новости о Википедии основываются исключительно на Википедии и не требуют сторонних источников: [[:n:ru:Русская Википедия: теперь 2 000 000 статей|Русская Википедия: теперь 2 000 000 статей]], [[:n:ru:Джимми Уэйлс пожелал удачи правительству России|Джимми Уэйлс пожелал удачи правительству России]], [[:n:ru:Русские википедисты написали письмо поддержки украинским коллегам|Русские википедисты написали письмо поддержки украинским коллегам]], [[:n:ru:Телеведущая Екатерина Андреева манипулирует Википедией|Телеведущая Екатерина Андреева манипулирует Википедией]], [[:n:ru:15 лет Википедии в Москве|15 лет Википедии в Москве]], [[:n:ru:Джимбо Уэйлс в Москве|Джимбо Уэйлс в Москве]], [[:n:ru:Русские Викиновости обогнали Польскую Википедию|Русские Викиновости обогнали Польскую Википедию]], [[:n:ru:Википедии исполняется 20 лет|Википедии исполняется 20 лет]], [[:n:ru:Русская Википедия восстановила статью «Путин — хуйло!»|Русская Википедия восстановила статью «Путин — хуйло!»]], [[:n:ru:В Английской Википедии 5 миллионов статей|В Английской Википедии 5 миллионов статей]]... etc. [[User:Lesless|Lesless]] ([[User talk:Lesless|talk]]) 07:53, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::: Даже в самом шаблоне написано! "Если автор репортажа не указал свои источники, источником информации является он сам"!! "If the author of the report does not indicate his sources, the source of information is he himself"!! [[:n:ru:Шаблон:Оригинальный репортаж|Шаблон:Оригинальный репортаж]]. "с использованием собственных источников и информации, которая ранее не публиковалась" = "using our own sources and information that has not been previously published." [[:n:ru:Категория:Оригинальные репортажи|Категория:Оригинальные репортажи]]. [[User:Lesless|Lesless]] ([[User talk:Lesless|talk]]) 08:05, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::::For your reference, I edited the story beyond minor edits so I cannot publish myself. It is stuck because awaiting another reviewer. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:04, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::::If there are notes from your original reporting -- what information you obtained yourself -- which were not discussed earlier, and which help to verify a part of the content, then please include this information here now. It will help the reviewer. For the little parts I looked up and added, I included notes how I retrieved that information. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:08, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
:::[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]: Not sure if "better suited" refers to source translation difficulties (legit) or newsworthiness on en.wn, but for the record, if I understand correctly, volume of English-language coverage is not evidence against newsworthiness, although it could serve as evidence for to the same extent as volume of coverage in any other language. And I don't think we should give weight to where ''Wikinews'' (or en.wn specifically) readership is concentrated. [[Special:Diff/4798967|But for the reasons I mentioned at the assistance water cooler I don't think this is newsworthy.]] [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 18:32, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
::::What I was trying to say was that a lack of coverage by sources in the English language might indicate a lack of relevance to English-speaking readers. I was not trying to imply that disqualifies en.WN from being the first English source to publish it, which I see no problem in us doing.
::::Your comment regarding giving weight to where en.WN readership is concentrated is well-received. I wasn't recommending we start intentionally catering to specific cohorts. Rather, I was recommending that we could, in cases like this, consider our readership demographics as contributing factors when considering things like relevance and newsworthiness. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:43, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
== Stale ==
Thursday, September 19, 2024 originally dated, plus sources are old. Thanks. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:56, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
:Так а кто тут всё затянул-то? В русских новостях было опубликовано сразу. И в Reliable sources тоже. Только тут бодягу развели на две недели. Вы все дела так делаете? [[User:Lesless|Lesless]] ([[User talk:Lesless|talk]]) 20:51, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Lesless|Lesless]], I share your frustration with the lack of nimbleness of en.WN. It is not caused by any single person, but a combination of factors, the main one being a stringent peer-review process combined with too few active reviewers. I understand the article was published quickly at ru.WN and that is great. However, we don't share all of the same policies here at en.WN and that means work is done differently between the two projects.
::I hope this doesn't push you away from posting future articles here. When you do post articles here in the future, please be mindful of our policies so that we can work together to correct any issues quickly and easily and get content published. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:23, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
:::Нет уж, больше я с такой бюрократией связываться не собираюсь. Ценность новостей в оперативности. Вы никогда не работали в СМИ? А я работал, был репортёром. [[User:Lesless|Lesless]] ([[User talk:Lesless|talk]]) 19:47, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
::::Я, кстати, тоже работал =))) Помнишь я говорил тебе, что с ними тут бесполезно что-либо делать? Эти люди не википедисты. Я даже не могу понять кто они, но только не википедисты. По ним office action плачет. Если бы в этом office кого-либо что-либо тут интересовало — там тоже сидят не википедисты, и занимаются они не вики-проектами. --[[User:Ssr|Ssr]] ([[User talk:Ssr|talk]]) 06:52, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
:::Your policies? You don't have people, but have policies. But Wikimedia is made for people, not for policies. -- [[User:Ssr|Ssr]] ([[User talk:Ssr|talk]]) 06:54, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
== Review of revision 4799695 [Not ready] ==
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Imagine that you were given an editorial assignment to cover the voyage on the Titanic. You survived and brought the report. And the editor says to you: where are the independent three publications in independent sources? [[User:Lesless|Lesless]] ([[User talk:Lesless|talk]]) 07:43, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
== refresh ==
I asked Nikolai to comment using wikimail. Let's see what comes out of this. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:10, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
:🙂 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:26, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
== No updates. Still stale and abandoned. ==
@[[User:Lesless|Lesless]], there has been no update to the article that would warrant a status change from ''abandoned'' to ''review''. Also, see [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida's]] comment above attempting to reach out for help. There has been no update that I know of from Nikolai. Given our policy on [[WN:Freshness]], I don't see how this article is now reviewable. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:19, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], agreed. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:42, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
:There is an update. I require a reviewer to schedule a 30 min time slot for publishing interview. Tell me when (in Sydney time please) and then I will upload it here by then. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:09, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
::{{ping|Gryllida}} I don't understand what you mean.
::You have information from Nikolai that is pertinent to reviewing this article? —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:18, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
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== clarification question ==
Hi @[[User:Lesless|Lesless]] 👋🏻
What is "Cebuano, Warai" and "Dutch, Swedish"? Page names or site section names? Could you explain in article, and wikilink if possible, please?
[[WN:5W|How]] did you calculate the name of the 2000000th article? I know one source has this information, but there is confusing, but I did not fully understand.
Thanks, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:16, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
:[[:w:ru:Википедия:Ботопедия]]. [[User:Lesless|Lesless]] ([[User talk:Lesless|talk]]) 04:53, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
:По вычислению двухмиллионной статьи. Это было в некоторой степени "политическое решение" (русский фразеологизм, не обязательно про политику). Так как статьи постоянно добавлялись и удалялись, двухмиллионное место плавало, технически, видимо, отметку в 2000000 преодолела статья, которая была сразу удалена. "Музыка" была следующей. [[User:Lesless|Lesless]] ([[User talk:Lesless|talk]]) 08:14, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
== related discussion ==
[[Wikinews:Water_cooler/assistance#Urgent_-_OR?_-_Sourcing_requirements_-_Russian_Wikipedia:_now_2,000,000_articles|LINK]]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:21, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
== Notes ==
Possible OR:
* asked Russian Wikipedia forum to clarify what is automatic fill. Received link to Ботопедия from Lesless and they added it to article. I consulted the linked official documentation page and added information from it into the article.
* Checked how many pages the author of the reportedly 2000000th page wrote - on his user page. I also checked which page he is working on right now.
* Looked up on forum and on Wikimedia Commons pages , which users were involved in breaking the news and in creating the new logo.
* Checked user rights & roles of several users whom I linked and listed their roles in the article.
This is not OR, but I added attribution to the note about which article is 2000000th one, to reduce risk of misinformation.
The 3dnews source looks relatively independent.
I think this is probably the closest I can get to addressing all the known concerns to me. Maybe some of them are still not fully addressed. This is about as much as I think is possible to do.
I am happy to answer questions and to help further. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:03, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
== OR? ==
how? [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 15:10, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
:In the notes section above. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:54, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
== Status on this article ==
I have ''somewhat'' been following this talk page but only recently realized [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] is too involved in article development to review it.
The article was in the review queue but has been heavily edited recently so I moved it to developing.
Feel free to bounce it back to review when it's ready. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 01:12, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
:should be in review queue now [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:25, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
:(I'm surprised I edited the article yet was not automatically subscribed to its talk page; that's weird.) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:19, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
::I think in this case, given the language, you were best-suited to review this article. I think moving forward, it is best for you not to get involved with developing Russian-based stories so you can review them (unless of course you are the original author).
::I would like to review it, however the language barrier for me is quite steep. Machine translation does not do so well with ru → en. All of the sources are in Russian and most of the links point to content in Russian. Some of the discussion here is in Russian. I can not find English sources commenting on the focal event. That does support the assertion that this is better-suited for ru.WN and less-suited for en.WN.
::However, it could be argued that this article might be newsworthy to our Russian readers, of which we have a significant number. Russian is the top, non-English language for our viewers.[https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/langviews/?project=en.wikinews.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=latest-20&sort=views&direction=1&view=list&page=Main%20Page]
::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], some specific questions:
::* Have you established that this does represent OR?
::* The last sentence "In fact, the Russian Wikipedia is in fourth place after the English, German and French Wikipedias." doesn't square with [https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%B9/%D0%95%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0 this link] provided in the article, which places it at seventh, which is mentioned earlier in the article. To what is 'fourth' place regarding?
::* DTF should be listed in the sources at "DTF" and not ":ru:DTF", correct?
::{{ping|Heavy Water|Bddpaux|Acagastya}} do you have any input? Is this newsworthy for en.WN, given our high number of Russian-speaking readers? What problems/dangers do we face if we publish it and later find inaccuracies or problems? What problems would we face if we publish and there are no inaccuracies found?
::—[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:43, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]
:::* My OR involved adding which users discovered the news and who created logo
:::* And which story the author is working on (some other Nabokov story)
:::* Including how many pages he wrote. Which is a lot. Some 0.3% as said on user page. Existing othervreports on this news do not include this number.
:::* All this information is publicly available and did not require contacting anyone in private, because this is a wiki. The only time when I needed to ask someone a question was to get an explanation what "automatic fill" is on the ruwp forum, which was also a publicly available documentation page.
:::* So I dunno how this qualifies as OR or not. It did involve some digging more than "lookup 2M ruwp" and combine search results into one article. Yet, all sources of information are public because this is a wiki.
:::* If there are some doubts I can attempt to interview the person who wrote the 200000th page on-wiki. I don't know how successful I will be. Their user page says they do not like to be involved in talk page discussions because it is a waste of time oftentimes and involves interacting with people who are more interested in noise than in content writing. Let me know if you would like me to attempt this.
:::---
:::* About fourth place this sentence can be removed and if either myself or @[[User:Lesless|Lesless]] manage to answer within 24 hours after publishing then it can be re added.
:::* I used :ru:DTF for wikilink to work. There is ruwp article about it but not enwp.
:::Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 18:31, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Мне особенно понравилось ''"All of the sources are in Russian and most of the links point to content in Russian. Some of the discussion here is in Russian. I can not find English sources commenting on the focal event. That does support the assertion that this is better-suited for ru.WN and less-suited for en.WN".'' Послушайте, у нас международная энциклопедия. Все языки равны. Источники не перестают быть [[:w:ru:ВП:АИ|АИ]] от того, что они на другом языке. В русской Википедии и Русских Викиновостях принимаются англоязычные источники без ограничений. А у вас что, цензура? И это неправда, что Гугл-переводчик плохо работает ru → en. Я вот сейчас ниже покажу, как он перевёл этот текст. И источников сейчас больше трёх. Этого достаточно? Я уж молчу, что оригинальный репортаж на то и оригинальный, что не требует никаких источников вообще. Я и есть АИ. Я автор новости. По поводу четвёртого места. Это 7−3=4. Из семи вычитаем три ботопедии и получаем четвёртое место. Вам источник на это нужен? Ну есть вот такой источник, только там считали по-другому: [[meta:User:Ladsgroup/coverage_ranking_of_Wikipedia_languages]]. Для новостей о Википедии все источники могут быть внутри Википедии, это нормально! И меня очень удивил тот факт, что администраторы Викиновостей не знают очевиднейших вещей. Про заливки, ботопедии, места Википедий по языкам, выбор юбилейной статьи и прочих вещах, о которых в Русской Википедии знает почти каждый участник. [[User:Lesless|Lesless]] ([[User talk:Lesless|talk]]) 07:14, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
::: ru → en by Google translate
::: I especially liked ''"All of the sources are in Russian and most of the links point to content in Russian. Some of the discussion here is in Russian. I can not find English sources commenting on the focal event. That does support the assertion that this is better-suited for ru.WN and less-suited for en.WN".'' Look, we have an international encyclopedia. All languages are equal. Sources do not cease to be [[:w:en:Wikipedia:Reliable sources|Reliable sources]] just because they are in another language. The Russian Wikipedia and Russian Wikinews accept English-language sources without restrictions. Do you have censorship? And it is not true that Google Translate does not work well ru → en. I will show below how it translated this text (here it is). And there are now more than three sources. Is that enough? I will not even mention the fact that the original report is original because it does not require any sources at all. I am [[:w:en:Wikipedia:Reliable sources|Reliable source]]. I am the author of the news. Regarding fourth place. This is 7−3=4. From seven we subtract three botopedias and get fourth place. Do you need a source for this? Well, there is such a source, only they calculated differently there: [[meta:User:Ladsgroup/coverage_ranking_of_Wikipedia_languages]] + https://www.wikipedia.org/ - without botopedias. For news about Wikipedia, all sources may be inside Wikipedia, that's okay! And I was very surprised by the fact that Wikinews administrators do not know the most obvious things. About authomatic filling, botopedias, Wikipedia locations by language, choosing an anniversary article and other things that almost every user in Russian Wikipedia knows about. [[User:Lesless|Lesless]] ([[User talk:Lesless|talk]]) 07:25, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
::::In English there are a few main points,
::::* firstly foreign language sources are not issue for global news project like this one,
::::* secondly from list of large wikis a few wikis needed to be taken out as they are "botopedia" that is tiny stubs imported by bot. (Maybe it needs to be clarified in article).
::::** Supposedly each user in ruwp knows how botopedia and automatic fills work. [Gryllida never heard of it]
::::*And OR is Lesless himself as significant analysis included.
::::In reply: no, here Wikipedia is not considered reliable source.
::::In reply: this news is for international audience not enlightened about wiki workings, it needs to be clarified.
::::Hope it helps and please ask if any questions. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:21, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
::::: In Russian Wikinews, all news about Wikipedia is based solely on Wikipedia and does not require external sources. В Русских Викиновостях все новости о Википедии основываются исключительно на Википедии и не требуют сторонних источников: [[:n:ru:Русская Википедия: теперь 2 000 000 статей|Русская Википедия: теперь 2 000 000 статей]], [[:n:ru:Джимми Уэйлс пожелал удачи правительству России|Джимми Уэйлс пожелал удачи правительству России]], [[:n:ru:Русские википедисты написали письмо поддержки украинским коллегам|Русские википедисты написали письмо поддержки украинским коллегам]], [[:n:ru:Телеведущая Екатерина Андреева манипулирует Википедией|Телеведущая Екатерина Андреева манипулирует Википедией]], [[:n:ru:15 лет Википедии в Москве|15 лет Википедии в Москве]], [[:n:ru:Джимбо Уэйлс в Москве|Джимбо Уэйлс в Москве]], [[:n:ru:Русские Викиновости обогнали Польскую Википедию|Русские Викиновости обогнали Польскую Википедию]], [[:n:ru:Википедии исполняется 20 лет|Википедии исполняется 20 лет]], [[:n:ru:Русская Википедия восстановила статью «Путин — хуйло!»|Русская Википедия восстановила статью «Путин — хуйло!»]], [[:n:ru:В Английской Википедии 5 миллионов статей|В Английской Википедии 5 миллионов статей]]... etc. [[User:Lesless|Lesless]] ([[User talk:Lesless|talk]]) 07:53, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::: Даже в самом шаблоне написано! "Если автор репортажа не указал свои источники, источником информации является он сам"!! "If the author of the report does not indicate his sources, the source of information is he himself"!! [[:n:ru:Шаблон:Оригинальный репортаж|Шаблон:Оригинальный репортаж]]. "с использованием собственных источников и информации, которая ранее не публиковалась" = "using our own sources and information that has not been previously published." [[:n:ru:Категория:Оригинальные репортажи|Категория:Оригинальные репортажи]]. [[User:Lesless|Lesless]] ([[User talk:Lesless|talk]]) 08:05, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::::For your reference, I edited the story beyond minor edits so I cannot publish myself. It is stuck because awaiting another reviewer. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:04, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::::If there are notes from your original reporting -- what information you obtained yourself -- which were not discussed earlier, and which help to verify a part of the content, then please include this information here now. It will help the reviewer. For the little parts I looked up and added, I included notes how I retrieved that information. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:08, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
:::[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]: Not sure if "better suited" refers to source translation difficulties (legit) or newsworthiness on en.wn, but for the record, if I understand correctly, volume of English-language coverage is not evidence against newsworthiness, although it could serve as evidence for to the same extent as volume of coverage in any other language. And I don't think we should give weight to where ''Wikinews'' (or en.wn specifically) readership is concentrated. [[Special:Diff/4798967|But for the reasons I mentioned at the assistance water cooler I don't think this is newsworthy.]] [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 18:32, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
::::What I was trying to say was that a lack of coverage by sources in the English language might indicate a lack of relevance to English-speaking readers. I was not trying to imply that disqualifies en.WN from being the first English source to publish it, which I see no problem in us doing.
::::Your comment regarding giving weight to where en.WN readership is concentrated is well-received. I wasn't recommending we start intentionally catering to specific cohorts. Rather, I was recommending that we could, in cases like this, consider our readership demographics as contributing factors when considering things like relevance and newsworthiness. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:43, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
== Stale ==
Thursday, September 19, 2024 originally dated, plus sources are old. Thanks. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:56, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
:Так а кто тут всё затянул-то? В русских новостях было опубликовано сразу. И в Reliable sources тоже. Только тут бодягу развели на две недели. Вы все дела так делаете? [[User:Lesless|Lesless]] ([[User talk:Lesless|talk]]) 20:51, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Lesless|Lesless]], I share your frustration with the lack of nimbleness of en.WN. It is not caused by any single person, but a combination of factors, the main one being a stringent peer-review process combined with too few active reviewers. I understand the article was published quickly at ru.WN and that is great. However, we don't share all of the same policies here at en.WN and that means work is done differently between the two projects.
::I hope this doesn't push you away from posting future articles here. When you do post articles here in the future, please be mindful of our policies so that we can work together to correct any issues quickly and easily and get content published. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:23, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
:::Нет уж, больше я с такой бюрократией связываться не собираюсь. Ценность новостей в оперативности. Вы никогда не работали в СМИ? А я работал, был репортёром. [[User:Lesless|Lesless]] ([[User talk:Lesless|talk]]) 19:47, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
::::Я, кстати, тоже работал =))) Помнишь я говорил тебе, что с ними тут бесполезно что-либо делать? Эти люди не википедисты. Я даже не могу понять кто они, но только не википедисты. По ним office action плачет. Если бы в этом office кого-либо что-либо тут интересовало — там тоже сидят не википедисты, и занимаются они не вики-проектами. --[[User:Ssr|Ssr]] ([[User talk:Ssr|talk]]) 06:52, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
:::Your policies? You don't have people, but have policies. But Wikimedia is made for people, not for policies. -- [[User:Ssr|Ssr]] ([[User talk:Ssr|talk]]) 06:54, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
== Review of revision 4799695 [Not ready] ==
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Imagine that you were given an editorial assignment to cover the voyage on the Titanic. You survived and brought the report. And the editor says to you: where are the independent three publications in independent sources? [[User:Lesless|Lesless]] ([[User talk:Lesless|talk]]) 07:43, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
== refresh ==
I asked Nikolai to comment using wikimail. Let's see what comes out of this. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:10, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
:🙂 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:26, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
== No updates. Still stale and abandoned. ==
@[[User:Lesless|Lesless]], there has been no update to the article that would warrant a status change from ''abandoned'' to ''review''. Also, see [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida's]] comment above attempting to reach out for help. There has been no update that I know of from Nikolai. Given our policy on [[WN:Freshness]], I don't see how this article is now reviewable. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:19, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], agreed. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:42, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
:There is an update. I require a reviewer to schedule a 30 min time slot for publishing interview. Tell me when (in Sydney time please) and then I will upload it here by then. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:09, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
::{{ping|Gryllida}} I don't understand what you mean.
::You have information from Nikolai that is pertinent to reviewing this article? —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:18, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
:::Yes and I need scheduling 30mins on irc with you to upload it and do the review. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:00, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
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== Review of revision 4802695 [Not ready] ==
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Specifically:
* Neither source indicates Quantas is Australia's largest airline. That statement could be uncontroversially removed, but that would render the article too short to publish.
* I'm not sure what is meant by "Qantas said they shifted roles..."
* According to News.com.au, workers were ''expected'' to strike in Brisbane but hadn't yet.
The last paragraph defines the makeup of the Qantas Engineers Alliance, but our article does not tell us anything more about the Alliance, such as why the reader needs to know about it in the first place. It's only mentioned once in the News.com.au article and it is not clear what their paragraph is trying to say. Specifically, the statement "which comprises of '''there''' [emphasis added] AMWU" is odd to me. Is that a typo that should read 'comprises of ''their'' AMWU'?
I added the 'video' parameter and value to the second source, per {{tl|Source}}.|time=15:41, 23 October 2024 (UTC)}}
I forgot to mention in the review that our article could briefly explain what an enterprise agreement is and that would certainly help the article reach the minimum word count. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:42, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
== Reply to review ==
1. "“Our teams have worked hard to put contingencies in place and we don’t expect the industrial action in Melbourne today to have any impact to customers,” the spokesperson said." is why I wrote 'shifted roles'. I understood if someone is on strike then Qantas allocates another worker from somewhere else to do work required for a flight to happen today. Correct me if I am wrong.
2. The 'Source' things don't go into published article. I presume it is okay to delete them. I deleted them all in article.
3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qantas says it is the largest. I see it bothers you. I deleted 'largest'. If you're comfortable I can put 'major'.
4. Put 'strike was scheduled to start in brisbane at 1.30pm' to alleviate concerns about whether or not it took place. i did not find any items confirming it occurred.
5. Thanks for leaving me note on my talk page, it generated an email and attracted my attention. Please keep doing this in future for each review of article where I was involved. I will try to configure Notifications (Echo) to also send me emails. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:24, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
:Note that I'm rather bad at time zones, please insert manually for now and if there is a template that we can steal from English Wikipedia that generates UTC time zone in parentheses automatically then it would help a lot (at least it would help me). [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:25, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
::Regarding the above:
::1. Contingencies could indeed be strikebreakers or it could be other steps. Rather than assume, I used the generic statement of 'steps were taken.'
::2. The {{tl|Verify}} is indeed not meant to be in published articles. But they are useful to leave in the article, to be removed by the reviewer prior to publication, so the reviewer can see what information is sourced from where. The template documentation describes its use.
::3. It didn't bother me...it's part of policy, is all.
::4. HRD verified this statement. Specific times were not necessary, especially since the source did not clarify which timezone. Maybe a time-conversion template would be handy, but authors would still need to specify in the template which timezone is being reported. Also be careful if copying/pasting templates from en.WP. We have incompatible copyright licenses so I think the individual template of ours would need to be licensed separately. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 16:13, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
== Review of revision 4802825 [Passed] ==
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I attributed and cited the source of the strikers chanting in prose, since neither of the text sources used the quote. |time=15:48, 24 October 2024 (UTC)}}
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== Review of revision 4802695 [Not ready] ==
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Specifically:
* Neither source indicates Quantas is Australia's largest airline. That statement could be uncontroversially removed, but that would render the article too short to publish.
* I'm not sure what is meant by "Qantas said they shifted roles..."
* According to News.com.au, workers were ''expected'' to strike in Brisbane but hadn't yet.
The last paragraph defines the makeup of the Qantas Engineers Alliance, but our article does not tell us anything more about the Alliance, such as why the reader needs to know about it in the first place. It's only mentioned once in the News.com.au article and it is not clear what their paragraph is trying to say. Specifically, the statement "which comprises of '''there''' [emphasis added] AMWU" is odd to me. Is that a typo that should read 'comprises of ''their'' AMWU'?
I added the 'video' parameter and value to the second source, per {{tl|Source}}.|time=15:41, 23 October 2024 (UTC)}}
I forgot to mention in the review that our article could briefly explain what an enterprise agreement is and that would certainly help the article reach the minimum word count. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:42, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
== Reply to review ==
1. "“Our teams have worked hard to put contingencies in place and we don’t expect the industrial action in Melbourne today to have any impact to customers,” the spokesperson said." is why I wrote 'shifted roles'. I understood if someone is on strike then Qantas allocates another worker from somewhere else to do work required for a flight to happen today. Correct me if I am wrong.
2. The 'Source' things don't go into published article. I presume it is okay to delete them. I deleted them all in article.
3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qantas says it is the largest. I see it bothers you. I deleted 'largest'. If you're comfortable I can put 'major'.
4. Put 'strike was scheduled to start in brisbane at 1.30pm' to alleviate concerns about whether or not it took place. i did not find any items confirming it occurred.
5. Thanks for leaving me note on my talk page, it generated an email and attracted my attention. Please keep doing this in future for each review of article where I was involved. I will try to configure Notifications (Echo) to also send me emails. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:24, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
:Note that I'm rather bad at time zones, please insert manually for now and if there is a template that we can steal from English Wikipedia that generates UTC time zone in parentheses automatically then it would help a lot (at least it would help me). [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:25, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
::Regarding the above:
::1. Contingencies could indeed be strikebreakers or it could be other steps. Rather than assume, I used the generic statement of 'steps were taken.'
::2. The {{tl|Verify}} is indeed not meant to be in published articles. But they are useful to leave in the article, to be removed by the reviewer prior to publication, so the reviewer can see what information is sourced from where. The template documentation describes its use.
::3. It didn't bother me...it's part of policy, is all.
::4. HRD verified this statement. Specific times were not necessary, especially since the source did not clarify which timezone. Maybe a time-conversion template would be handy, but authors would still need to specify in the template which timezone is being reported. Also be careful if copying/pasting templates from en.WP. We have incompatible copyright licenses so I think the individual template of ours would need to be licensed separately. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 16:13, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
== Review of revision 4802825 [Passed] ==
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122 people including advisors from {{w|World Health Organization}}, agencies of [[United Nations]], and academic institutions contributed to the report. The report was on a global scale rather than a specific region such as Europe.
Among other conclusions, the authors noted heat caused deaths increasing rapidly and requiring urgent attention. The report noted an average person was exposed to 50 more days of dangerous temperatures this year compared with 2023. Other factors affecting health included extreme weather events, such as heat waves and floods, dust storms.
For instance, heat related sleep loss increased worldwide except three regions -- north-west of [[Australia]], a region in [[Brazil]], and a region near the {{w|Great Lakes}} in the [[United States]].
The report included notes that less than 35% of countries were capable of assessing early symptoms of heat caused health issues, and less than 10% for mental issues pertaining to increased temperatures. The authors wrote this limited the resources available for prevention and for planning emergency response if needed.
Additionally, in the report, the authors noted the fossil fuel industry was continuing to setup new mining sites, a concerning trend in light of ready availability and necessity to adopt renewable energy sources.
The report included a summary of 15 parameters. The analysts wrote that in 2023, the planet was already 1.45 C warmer than pre-industrial levels, and was on track to reach 2.7 C heating by 2100.
The authors called for urgent action to reverse the effects of [[climate change]] and {{w|pollution}} to reduce their impact in the future, and for improvements to risk assessment and management of associated health and wellbeing issues.
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For instance, heat related sleep loss increased worldwide except three regions -- north-west of [[Australia]], a region in [[Brazil]], and a region near the {{w|Great Lakes}} in the [[United States]].
The report included notes that less than 35% of countries were capable of assessing early symptoms of heat caused health issues, and less than 10% for mental issues pertaining to increased temperatures. The authors wrote this limited the resources available for prevention and for planning emergency response if needed.
Additionally, in the report, the authors noted the fossil fuel industry was continuing to setup new mining sites, a concerning trend in light of ready availability and necessity to adopt renewable energy sources.
The report included a summary of 15 parameters. The analysts wrote that in 2023, the planet was already 1.45 C warmer than pre-industrial levels, and was on track to reach 2.7 C heating by 2100.
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122 people including advisors from {{w|World Health Organization}}, agencies of [[United Nations]], and academic institutions contributed to the report. The report was on a global scale rather than a specific region such as Europe.
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For instance, heat related sleep loss increased worldwide except three regions -- north-west of [[Australia]], a region in [[Brazil]], and a region near the {{w|Great Lakes}} in the [[United States]].
The report included notes that less than 35% of countries were capable of assessing early symptoms of heat caused health issues, and less than 10% for mental issues pertaining to increased temperatures. The authors wrote this limited the resources available for prevention and for planning emergency response if needed.
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122 people including advisors from {{w|World Health Organization}}, agencies of [[United Nations]], and academic institutions contributed to the report. The report was on a global scale rather than a specific region such as Europe.
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Additionally, in the report, the authors noted the fossil fuel industry was continuing to setup new mining sites, a concerning trend in light of ready availability and necessity to adopt renewable energy sources.
The report included a summary of 15 parameters. The analysts wrote that in 2023, the planet was already 1.45 C warmer than pre-industrial levels, and was on track to reach 2.7 C heating by 2100.
The authors called for urgent action to reverse the effects of [[climate change]] and {{w|pollution}} to reduce their impact in the future, and for improvements to risk assessment and management of associated health and wellbeing issues.
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Tuesday, {{w|The Lancent}} released the 2024 Lancet Countdown report updating on environmental issues noting an average person was exposed to 50 more days of dangerous temperatures this year compared with 2023. Other factors affecting health included extreme weather events, such as heat waves and floods, dust storms.
122 people including advisors from {{w|World Health Organization}}, agencies of [[United Nations]], and academic institutions contributed to the report. The report was on a global scale rather than a specific region such as Europe.
The report included notes that less than 35% of countries were capable of assessing early symptoms of heat caused health issues, and less than 10% for mental issues pertaining to increased temperatures. The authors wrote this limited the resources available for prevention and for planning emergency response if needed.
Additionally, in the report, the authors noted the fossil fuel industry was continuing to setup new mining sites, a concerning trend in light of ready availability and necessity to adopt renewable energy sources.
The report included a summary of 15 parameters. The analysts wrote that in 2023, the planet was already 1.45 C warmer than pre-industrial levels, and was on track to reach 2.7 C heating by 2100.
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== Notes from Gryllida ==
My "or" included downloading the original document. It is kind of paywalled as it requires to sign up for an account. The document has been forwarded to scoop.
I did not add categories. Someone please do it. I don't have HotCat (haven't had it for years) and do not remember how to enable it.
After your review, or with any question, please use {{channel|wikinews-en}} to ping my nick, "Gry", and stay connected for up to 6 hours. Then I can inquire about collaborative editing if needed.
Thank you. 😊 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:17, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
:{{done}} adding categories. [[User:CSMention269|CSM.in]] ([[User talk:CSMention269|talk]]) 10:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
:I've checked the scoop email but the attachment appears not to have come through. Might be worth resending. '''[[User:RockerballAustralia|Rockerball]]'''''[[User talk:RockerballAustralia|Australia]]'' <small>[[Special:Contributions/RockerballAustralia|contribs]]</small> 07:33, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
::resent in parts as file is too big [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:19, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
:::Document parts received. Curious to know what happened to page 12. I'm guessing it as omitted because it wasn't needed or was blank. '''[[User:RockerballAustralia|Rockerball]]'''''[[User talk:RockerballAustralia|Australia]]'' <small>[[Special:Contributions/RockerballAustralia|contribs]]</small> 09:22, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
::::was too heavy :-( even as one page. over 10mb or whatever limit of server. i will try to resend [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:21, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
::::sent a screenshot of it [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:22, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
::::could we possibly get some IM going, i am often on mobile and i do not get push notifications of any new on wiki events sadly. 😥
::::i tried sms, but never got a reply [Edit: got a reply 2 times out of more than 10], i think we need to try something else.
::::instant communication could help a lot with publishing timely.
::::i have a bunch of accounts on "social media", which are listed on my user page. i can use twitter messages as last resort if that is what you prefer. please let me know. 🙂 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:25, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::Received page 12. Shame the scoop server couldn't handle the size. '''[[User:RockerballAustralia|Rockerball]]'''''[[User talk:RockerballAustralia|Australia]]'' <small>[[Special:Contributions/RockerballAustralia|contribs]]</small> 02:01, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
== Neutral point of view ==
The Lancet is not without its share of editorial[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lancet#Editorial_controversies] and scientific controversies[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lancet#Scientific_controversies] (I'm not suggesting using WP as a source, just an example). What do critics say of the report, its methods and findings, or the Lancet itself? —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:53, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
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== Notes from Gryllida ==
My "or" included downloading the original document. It is kind of paywalled as it requires to sign up for an account. The document has been forwarded to scoop.
I did not add categories. Someone please do it. I don't have HotCat (haven't had it for years) and do not remember how to enable it.
After your review, or with any question, please use {{channel|wikinews-en}} to ping my nick, "Gry", and stay connected for up to 6 hours. Then I can inquire about collaborative editing if needed.
Thank you. 😊 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:17, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
:{{done}} adding categories. [[User:CSMention269|CSM.in]] ([[User talk:CSMention269|talk]]) 10:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
:I've checked the scoop email but the attachment appears not to have come through. Might be worth resending. '''[[User:RockerballAustralia|Rockerball]]'''''[[User talk:RockerballAustralia|Australia]]'' <small>[[Special:Contributions/RockerballAustralia|contribs]]</small> 07:33, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
::resent in parts as file is too big [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:19, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
:::Document parts received. Curious to know what happened to page 12. I'm guessing it as omitted because it wasn't needed or was blank. '''[[User:RockerballAustralia|Rockerball]]'''''[[User talk:RockerballAustralia|Australia]]'' <small>[[Special:Contributions/RockerballAustralia|contribs]]</small> 09:22, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
::::was too heavy :-( even as one page. over 10mb or whatever limit of server. i will try to resend [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:21, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
::::sent a screenshot of it [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:22, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
::::could we possibly get some IM going, i am often on mobile and i do not get push notifications of any new on wiki events sadly. 😥
::::i tried sms, but never got a reply [Edit: got a reply 2 times out of more than 10], i think we need to try something else.
::::instant communication could help a lot with publishing timely.
::::i have a bunch of accounts on "social media", which are listed on my user page. i can use twitter messages as last resort if that is what you prefer. please let me know. 🙂 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:25, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::Received page 12. Shame the scoop server couldn't handle the size. '''[[User:RockerballAustralia|Rockerball]]'''''[[User talk:RockerballAustralia|Australia]]'' <small>[[Special:Contributions/RockerballAustralia|contribs]]</small> 02:01, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
== Neutral point of view ==
The Lancet is not without its share of editorial[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lancet#Editorial_controversies] and scientific controversies[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lancet#Scientific_controversies] (I'm not suggesting using WP as a source, just an example). What do critics say of the report, its methods and findings, or the Lancet itself? —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:53, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
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On October 30, a top [[Russia|Russian]] court fined [[US|American]] tech-giant company [[Google]] for blocking the Russian state media channels in [[YouTube]].
[[File:Googleplex_HQ_(cropped).jpg|thumb|left|180px|Google Headquarters in {{w|Mountain View, US}} {{Image source|[[c:User:The Pancake of Heaven!|The Pancake of Heaven!]]}}]]
The amount of fine was two undecillion {{w|Russian ruble|rubles}} - a two followed by 36 zeroes
({{w|US dollar|US$}} 20,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) - an amount beyond the entire world's GDP, which is estimated by the [[International Monetary Fund]] to be US$110 trillion.
"Although it is a specific amount, I cannot even say this number, it is rather filled with symbolism," Kremlin spokesperson {{W|Dmitry Peskov}} said, according to {{w|TASS}}.
The court also ordered them to restore their accounts within nine months, with a fine of {{w|Russian ruble|RU₽}}100,000 (US$1,000) per day after that period.
This fine was made after litigation was filed in 2020, according to [[NBC News]], by seventeen Russian television channels and other media outlets.
YouTube froze its accounts following the sanctions by the United States on {{w|Russian Invasion of Ukraine}} in 2022, which impacted its subsidiary at Russia in bankruptcy and paused its commercial operations
Following this, Google responded the next day. "Civil judgments that include compounding penalties have been imposed upon us in connection with disputes regarding the termination of accounts, including those of sanctioned parties," Google said, ''according to [[CNN]]''. "We do not believe these ongoing legal matters will have a material adverse effect (on earnings)."
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[[File:Googleplex_HQ_(cropped).jpg|thumb|left|180px|Google Headquarters in {{w|Mountain View, US}} {{Image source|[[c:User:The Pancake of Heaven!|The Pancake of Heaven!]]}}]]
The amount of fine was two undecillion {{w|Russian ruble|rubles}} - a two followed by 36 zeroes
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"Although it is a specific amount, I cannot even say this number, it is rather filled with symbolism," Kremlin spokesperson {{W|Dmitry Peskov}} said{{Verify|https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-fines-google-20-decillion-world-gdp-youtube-kremlin-war-ukraine-rcna178172}}, according to {{w|TASS}}.
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This fine was made after litigation was filed in 2020, according to [[NBC News]], by seventeen Russian television channels and other media outlets.{{Verify|https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-fines-google-20-decillion-world-gdp-youtube-kremlin-war-ukraine-rcna178172}}
YouTube froze its accounts following the sanctions by the United States on {{w|Russian Invasion of Ukraine}} in 2022, which impacted its subsidiary at Russia in bankruptcy and paused its commercial operations
Following this, Google responded the next day. "Civil judgments that include compounding penalties have been imposed upon us in connection with disputes regarding the termination of accounts, including those of sanctioned parties," Google said, ''according to [[CNN]]''. "We do not believe these ongoing legal matters will have a material adverse effect (on earnings)."
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[[File:Googleplex_HQ_(cropped).jpg|thumb|left|180px|Google Headquarters in {{w|Mountain View, US}} {{Image source|[[c:User:The Pancake of Heaven!|The Pancake of Heaven!]]}}]]
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"Although it is a specific amount, I cannot even say this number, it is rather filled with symbolism," Kremlin spokesperson {{W|Dmitry Peskov}} said{{Verify|https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-fines-google-20-decillion-world-gdp-youtube-kremlin-war-ukraine-rcna178172}}, according to {{w|TASS}}.
The court also ordered them to restore their accounts within nine months, with a fine of {{w|Russian ruble|RU₽}}100,000 (US$1,000) per day after that period.{{Verify|https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-fines-google-20-decillion-world-gdp-youtube-kremlin-war-ukraine-rcna178172}}
This fine was made after litigation was filed in 2020, according to [[NBC News]], by seventeen Russian television channels and other media outlets.{{Verify|https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-fines-google-20-decillion-world-gdp-youtube-kremlin-war-ukraine-rcna178172}}
YouTube froze its accounts following the sanctions by the United States on {{w|Russian Invasion of Ukraine}} in 2022, which impacted its subsidiary at Russia in bankruptcy and paused its commercial operations
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"Although it is a specific amount, I cannot even say this number, it is rather filled with symbolism," Kremlin spokesperson {{W|Dmitry Peskov}} said{{Verify|https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-fines-google-20-decillion-world-gdp-youtube-kremlin-war-ukraine-rcna178172}}, according to {{w|TASS}}.
The court also ordered them to restore their accounts within nine months, with a fine of {{w|Russian ruble|RU₽}}100,000 (US$1,000) per day after that period.{{Verify|https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-fines-google-20-decillion-world-gdp-youtube-kremlin-war-ukraine-rcna178172}}
This fine was made after litigation was filed in 2020, according to [[NBC News]], by seventeen Russian television channels and other media outlets.{{Verify|https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-fines-google-20-decillion-world-gdp-youtube-kremlin-war-ukraine-rcna178172}}
YouTube froze its accounts following the sanctions by the United States on {{w|Russian Invasion of Ukraine}} in 2022, which impacted its subsidiary at Russia in bankruptcy and paused its commercial operations.
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On October 30, a top [[Russia|Russian]] court fined [[US|American]] tech-giant company [[Google]] for blocking the Russian state media channels in [[YouTube]].{{Verify|https://www.euronews.com/business/2024/10/30/russia-fines-google-more-than-the-worlds-total-gdp-over-youtube-bans}}
[[File:Googleplex_HQ_(cropped).jpg|thumb|left|180px|Google Headquarters in {{w|Mountain View, US}} {{Image source|[[c:User:The Pancake of Heaven!|The Pancake of Heaven!]]}}]]
The amount of fine was two undecillion {{w|Russian ruble|rubles}} - a two followed by 36 zeroes
({{w|US dollar|US$}} 20,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) - an amount beyond the entire world's GDP, which is estimated by the [[International Monetary Fund]] to be US$110 trillion.{{Verify|https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdxvnwkl5kgo}}
"Although it is a specific amount, I cannot even say this number, it is rather filled with symbolism," Kremlin spokesperson {{W|Dmitry Peskov}} said{{Verify|https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-fines-google-20-decillion-world-gdp-youtube-kremlin-war-ukraine-rcna178172}}, according to {{w|TASS}}.
The court also ordered them to restore their accounts within nine months, with a fine of {{w|Russian ruble|RU₽}}100,000 (US$1,000) per day after that period.{{Verify|https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-fines-google-20-decillion-world-gdp-youtube-kremlin-war-ukraine-rcna178172}}
This fine was made after litigation was filed in 2020, according to [[NBC News]], by seventeen Russian television channels and other media outlets.{{Verify|https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-fines-google-20-decillion-world-gdp-youtube-kremlin-war-ukraine-rcna178172}}
YouTube froze its accounts following the sanctions by the United States on {{w|Russian Invasion of Ukraine}} in 2022, which impacted its subsidiary at Russia in bankruptcy and paused its commercial operations.
According to CNN, Google made reference to the legal dispute in a quarterly earnings statement: "Civil judgments that include compounding penalties have been imposed upon us in connection with disputes regarding the termination of accounts, including those of sanctioned parties." Google added, "We do not believe these ongoing legal matters will have a material adverse effect [on earnings]."
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On October 30, a top [[Russia|Russian]] court fined [[US|American]] tech-giant company [[Google]] for blocking the Russian state media channels in [[YouTube]].
[[File:Googleplex_HQ_(cropped).jpg|thumb|left|180px|Google Headquarters in {{w|Mountain View, US}} {{Image source|[[c:User:The Pancake of Heaven!|The Pancake of Heaven!]]}}]]
The amount of fine was two undecillion {{w|Russian ruble|rubles}} - a two followed by 36 zeroes
({{w|US dollar|US$}} 20,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) - an amount beyond the entire world's GDP, which is estimated by the [[International Monetary Fund]] to be US$110 trillion.
"Although it is a specific amount, I cannot even say this number, it is rather filled with symbolism," Kremlin spokesperson {{W|Dmitry Peskov}} said, according to {{w|TASS}}.
The court also ordered them to restore their accounts within nine months, with a fine of {{w|Russian ruble|RU₽}}100,000 (US$1,000) per day after that period.
This fine was made after litigation was filed in 2020, according to [[NBC News]], by seventeen Russian television channels and other media outlets.
YouTube froze its accounts following the sanctions by the United States on {{w|Russian Invasion of Ukraine}} in 2022, which impacted its subsidiary at Russia in bankruptcy and paused its commercial operations.
According to CNN, Google made reference to the legal dispute in a quarterly earnings statement: "Civil judgments that include compounding penalties have been imposed upon us in connection with disputes regarding the termination of accounts, including those of sanctioned parties." Google added, "We do not believe these ongoing legal matters will have a material adverse effect [on earnings]."
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On October 30, a top [[Russia|Russian]] court fined [[US|American]] tech-giant company [[Google]] for blocking the Russian state media channels in [[YouTube]].
[[File:Googleplex_HQ_(cropped).jpg|thumb|left|180px|Google Headquarters in {{w|Mountain View, US}} {{Image source|[[c:User:The Pancake of Heaven!|The Pancake of Heaven!]]}}]]
The amount of fine was two undecillion {{w|Russian ruble|rubles}} - a two followed by 36 zeroes
({{w|US dollar|US$}} 20,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) - an amount beyond the entire world's GDP, which is estimated by the [[International Monetary Fund]] to be US$110 trillion.
"Although it is a specific amount, I cannot even say this number, it is rather filled with symbolism," Kremlin spokesperson {{W|Dmitry Peskov}} said, according to {{w|TASS}}.
The court also ordered them to restore their accounts within nine months, with a fine of {{w|Russian ruble|RU₽}}100,000 (US$1,000) per day after that period.
This fine was made after litigation was filed in 2020, according to [[NBC News]], by seventeen Russian television channels and other media outlets.
YouTube froze its accounts following the sanctions by the United States on {{w|Russian Invasion of Ukraine}} in 2022, which impacted Google's subsidiary in Russia in bankruptcy and paused all of its commercial operations.
According to CNN, Google made reference to the legal dispute in a quarterly earnings statement: "Civil judgments that include compounding penalties have been imposed upon us in connection with disputes regarding the termination of accounts, including those of sanctioned parties." Google added, "We do not believe these ongoing legal matters will have a material adverse effect [on earnings]."
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On October 30, a top [[Russia|Russian]] court fined [[US|American]] tech-giant company [[Google]] for blocking the Russian state media channels in [[YouTube]].
[[File:Googleplex_HQ_(cropped).jpg|thumb|left|180px|Google Headquarters in {{w|Mountain View, US}} {{Image source|[[c:User:The Pancake of Heaven!|The Pancake of Heaven!]]}}]]
The amount of fine was two undecillion {{w|Russian ruble|rubles}} - a two followed by 36 zeroes
({{w|US dollar|US$}} 20,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) - an amount beyond the entire world's GDP, which is estimated by the [[International Monetary Fund]] to be US$110 trillion.
"Although it is a specific amount, I cannot even say this number, it is rather filled with symbolism," Kremlin spokesperson {{W|Dmitry Peskov}} said, according to the Telegraph Agency of the Soviet Union ({{w|TASS}}), a Russian state news agency.
The court also ordered them to restore their accounts within nine months, with a fine of {{w|Russian ruble|RU₽}}100,000 (US$1,000) per day after that period.
This fine was made after litigation was filed in 2020, according to [[NBC News]], by seventeen Russian television channels and other media outlets.
YouTube froze its accounts following the sanctions by the United States on {{w|Russian Invasion of Ukraine}} in 2022, which impacted Google's subsidiary in Russia in bankruptcy and paused all of its commercial operations.
According to CNN, Google made reference to the legal dispute in a quarterly earnings statement: "Civil judgments that include compounding penalties have been imposed upon us in connection with disputes regarding the termination of accounts, including those of sanctioned parties." Google added, "We do not believe these ongoing legal matters will have a material adverse effect [on earnings]."
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On October 30, a top [[Russia|Russian]] court fined [[US|American]] tech-giant company [[Google]] for blocking the Russian state media channels in [[YouTube]].
[[File:Googleplex_HQ_(cropped).jpg|thumb|left|180px|Google Headquarters in {{w|Mountain View, US}} {{Image source|[[c:User:The Pancake of Heaven!|The Pancake of Heaven!]]}}]]
The amount of the fine was two undecillion {{w|Russian ruble|rubles}} - a two followed by 36 zeroes
({{w|US dollar|US$}} 20,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) - an amount beyond the entire world's GDP, which is estimated by the [[International Monetary Fund]] to be US$110 trillion.
"Although it is a specific amount, I cannot even say this number, it is rather filled with symbolism," Kremlin spokesperson {{W|Dmitry Peskov}} said, according to the Telegraph Agency of the Soviet Union ({{w|TASS}}), a Russian state news agency.
The court also ordered them to restore their accounts within nine months, with a fine of {{w|Russian ruble|RU₽}}100,000 (US$1,000) per day after that period.
This fine was made after litigation was filed in 2020, according to [[NBC News]], by seventeen Russian television channels and other media outlets.
YouTube froze its accounts following the sanctions by the United States on {{w|Russian Invasion of Ukraine}} in 2022, which impacted Google's subsidiary in Russia in bankruptcy and paused all of its commercial operations.
According to CNN, Google made reference to the legal dispute in a quarterly earnings statement: "Civil judgments that include compounding penalties have been imposed upon us in connection with disputes regarding the termination of accounts, including those of sanctioned parties." Google added, "We do not believe these ongoing legal matters will have a material adverse effect [on earnings]."
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On October 30, a top [[Russia|Russian]] court fined [[US|American]] tech-giant [[Google]] for blocking the Russian state media channels in [[YouTube]].
[[File:Googleplex_HQ_(cropped).jpg|thumb|left|180px|Google Headquarters in {{w|Mountain View, US}} {{Image source|[[c:User:The Pancake of Heaven!|The Pancake of Heaven!]]}}]]
The amount of the fine was two undecillion {{w|Russian ruble|rubles}} - a two followed by 36 zeroes
({{w|US dollar|US$}} 20,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) - an amount beyond the entire world's GDP, which is estimated by the [[International Monetary Fund]] to be US$110 trillion.
"Although it is a specific amount, I cannot even say this number, it is rather filled with symbolism," Kremlin spokesperson {{W|Dmitry Peskov}} said, according to the Telegraph Agency of the Soviet Union ({{w|TASS}}), a Russian state news agency.
The court also ordered them to restore their accounts within nine months, with a fine of {{w|Russian ruble|RU₽}}100,000 (US$1,000) per day after that period.
This fine was made after litigation was filed in 2020, according to [[NBC News]], by seventeen Russian television channels and other media outlets.
YouTube froze its accounts following the sanctions by the United States on {{w|Russian Invasion of Ukraine}} in 2022, which impacted Google's subsidiary in Russia in bankruptcy and paused all of its commercial operations.
According to CNN, Google made reference to the legal dispute in a quarterly earnings statement: "Civil judgments that include compounding penalties have been imposed upon us in connection with disputes regarding the termination of accounts, including those of sanctioned parties." Google added, "We do not believe these ongoing legal matters will have a material adverse effect [on earnings]."
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On October 30, a top [[Russia|Russian]] court fined [[US|American]] tech-giant [[Google]] for blocking Russian state media channels in [[YouTube]].
[[File:Googleplex_HQ_(cropped).jpg|thumb|left|180px|Google Headquarters in {{w|Mountain View, US}} {{Image source|[[c:User:The Pancake of Heaven!|The Pancake of Heaven!]]}}]]
The amount of the fine was two undecillion {{w|Russian ruble|rubles}} - a two followed by 36 zeroes
({{w|US dollar|US$}} 20,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) - an amount beyond the entire world's GDP, which is estimated by the [[International Monetary Fund]] to be US$110 trillion.
"Although it is a specific amount, I cannot even say this number, it is rather filled with symbolism," Kremlin spokesperson {{W|Dmitry Peskov}} said, according to the Telegraph Agency of the Soviet Union ({{w|TASS}}), a Russian state news agency.
The court also ordered them to restore their accounts within nine months, with a fine of {{w|Russian ruble|RU₽}}100,000 (US$1,000) per day after that period.
This fine was made after litigation was filed in 2020, according to [[NBC News]], by seventeen Russian television channels and other media outlets.
YouTube froze its accounts following the sanctions by the United States on {{w|Russian Invasion of Ukraine}} in 2022, which impacted Google's subsidiary in Russia in bankruptcy and paused all of its commercial operations.
According to CNN, Google made reference to the legal dispute in a quarterly earnings statement: "Civil judgments that include compounding penalties have been imposed upon us in connection with disputes regarding the termination of accounts, including those of sanctioned parties." Google added, "We do not believe these ongoing legal matters will have a material adverse effect [on earnings]."
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On October 30, a top [[Russia|Russian]] court fined [[US|American]] tech-giant [[Google]] for blocking Russian state media channels in [[YouTube]].
[[File:Googleplex_HQ_(cropped).jpg|thumb|left|180px|Google Headquarters in {{w|Mountain View, US}} {{Image source|[[c:User:The Pancake of Heaven!|The Pancake of Heaven!]]}}]]
The amount of the fine was two undecillion {{w|Russian ruble|rubles}} - a two followed by 36 zeroes
({{w|US dollar|US$}} 20,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) - an amount beyond the entire world's GDP, which is estimated by the [[International Monetary Fund]] to be US$110 trillion.
"Although it is a specific amount, I cannot even say this number, it is rather filled with symbolism," Kremlin spokesperson {{W|Dmitry Peskov}} said, according to the Telegraph Agency of the Soviet Union ({{w|TASS}}), a Russian state news agency.
The court also ordered Google to restore the accounts within nine months, with a fine of {{w|Russian ruble|RU₽}}100,000 (US$1,000) per day after that period.
This fine was made after litigation was filed in 2020, according to [[NBC News]], by seventeen Russian television channels and other media outlets.
YouTube froze its accounts following the sanctions by the United States on {{w|Russian Invasion of Ukraine}} in 2022, which impacted Google's subsidiary in Russia in bankruptcy and paused all of its commercial operations.
According to CNN, Google made reference to the legal dispute in a quarterly earnings statement: "Civil judgments that include compounding penalties have been imposed upon us in connection with disputes regarding the termination of accounts, including those of sanctioned parties." Google added, "We do not believe these ongoing legal matters will have a material adverse effect [on earnings]."
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On October 30, a top [[Russia|Russian]] court fined [[US|American]] tech-giant [[Google]] for blocking Russian state media channels in [[YouTube]].
[[File:Googleplex_HQ_(cropped).jpg|thumb|left|180px|Google Headquarters in {{w|Mountain View, US}} {{Image source|[[c:User:The Pancake of Heaven!|The Pancake of Heaven!]]}}]]
The amount of the fine was two undecillion {{w|Russian ruble|rubles}} - a two followed by 36 zeroes
({{w|US dollar|US$}} 20,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) - an amount beyond the entire world's GDP, which is estimated by the [[International Monetary Fund]] to be US$110 trillion.
"Although it is a specific amount, I cannot even say this number, it is rather filled with symbolism," Kremlin spokesperson {{W|Dmitry Peskov}} said, according to the Telegraph Agency of the Soviet Union ({{w|TASS}}), a Russian state news agency.
The court also ordered Google to restore the accounts within nine months, with a fine of {{w|Russian ruble|RU₽}}100,000 (US$1,000) per day after that period.
This fine was made after litigation was filed in 2020, according to [[NBC News]], by seventeen Russian television channels and other media outlets.
Google's Russian YouTube subsidiary paused commercial operations after U.S. sanctions were imposed on Russia in response to its [[2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine|2022 invasion of Ukraine]], directly impacting the subsidiary.
According to CNN, Google made reference to the legal dispute in a quarterly earnings statement: "Civil judgments that include compounding penalties have been imposed upon us in connection with disputes regarding the termination of accounts, including those of sanctioned parties." Google added, "We do not believe these ongoing legal matters will have a material adverse effect [on earnings]."
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On October 30, a top [[Russia|Russian]] court fined [[US|American]] tech-giant [[Google]] for blocking Russian state media channels in [[YouTube]].
[[File:Googleplex_HQ_(cropped).jpg|thumb|left|180px|Google Headquarters in {{w|Mountain View, US}} {{Image source|[[c:User:The Pancake of Heaven!|The Pancake of Heaven!]]}}]]
The amount of the fine was two undecillion {{w|Russian ruble|rubles}} - a two followed by 36 zeroes
({{w|US dollar|US$}} 20,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) - an amount beyond the entire world's GDP, which is estimated by the [[International Monetary Fund]] to be US$110 trillion.
"Although it is a specific amount, I cannot even say this number, it is rather filled with symbolism," Kremlin spokesperson {{W|Dmitry Peskov}} said, according to the Telegraph Agency of the Soviet Union ({{w|TASS}}), a Russian state news agency.
The court also ordered Google to restore the accounts within nine months, with a fine of {{w|Russian ruble|RU₽}}100,000 (US$1,000) per day after that period.
This fine was made after litigation was filed in 2020, according to [[NBC News]], by seventeen Russian television channels and other media outlets.
Google's Russian YouTube subsidiary paused commercial operations after U.S. sanctions were imposed on Russia in response to its [[2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine|2022 invasion of Ukraine]], directly impacting the subsidiary.
According to CNN, Google made reference to the legal dispute in a quarterly earnings statement: "Civil judgments that include compounding penalties have been imposed upon us in connection with disputes regarding the termination of accounts, including those of sanctioned parties." Google added, "We do not believe these ongoing legal matters will have a material adverse effect [on earnings]."
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== Google's response ==
There does seem to be a response from Google[https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/31/tech/google-fines-russia/index.html] that we should report on for [[WN:NPOV]]. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 16:09, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
:{{done}} and amended. [[User:CSMention269|CSM.in]] ([[User talk:CSMention269|talk]]) 05:04, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
== Edit for clarity ==
The seventh paragraph reads: "YouTube froze its accounts following the sanctions by the United States on Russian Invasion of Ukraine in 2022, which impacted its subsidiary at Russia in bankruptcy and paused its commercial operations."
The local (Russian) YouTube is the subsidiary. It's a local subsidiary of Google.
I'm not sure what is meant by "YouTube froze its accounts..." Is that a reference to the halting of commercial operations in Russia, as reported by the BBC?
Please update that paragraph for clarity.
I have not removed the article from the review queue in case another reviewer feels it is publishable as-is or by removing the paragraph entirely. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 16:05, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
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== Google's response ==
There does seem to be a response from Google[https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/31/tech/google-fines-russia/index.html] that we should report on for [[WN:NPOV]]. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 16:09, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
:{{done}} and amended. [[User:CSMention269|CSM.in]] ([[User talk:CSMention269|talk]]) 05:04, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
== Edit for clarity ==
The seventh paragraph reads: "YouTube froze its accounts following the sanctions by the United States on Russian Invasion of Ukraine in 2022, which impacted its subsidiary at Russia in bankruptcy and paused its commercial operations."
The local (Russian) YouTube is the subsidiary. It's a local subsidiary of Google.
I'm not sure what is meant by "YouTube froze its accounts..." Is that a reference to the halting of commercial operations in Russia, as reported by the BBC?
Please update that paragraph for clarity.
I have not removed the article from the review queue in case another reviewer feels it is publishable as-is or by removing the paragraph entirely. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 16:05, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], I will review this in a moment. [[User:CSMention269|CSM.in]] ([[User talk:CSMention269|talk]]) 16:07, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
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== Google's response ==
There does seem to be a response from Google[https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/31/tech/google-fines-russia/index.html] that we should report on for [[WN:NPOV]]. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 16:09, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
:{{done}} and amended. [[User:CSMention269|CSM.in]] ([[User talk:CSMention269|talk]]) 05:04, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
== Edit for clarity ==
The seventh paragraph reads: "YouTube froze its accounts following the sanctions by the United States on Russian Invasion of Ukraine in 2022, which impacted its subsidiary at Russia in bankruptcy and paused its commercial operations."
The local (Russian) YouTube is the subsidiary. It's a local subsidiary of Google.
I'm not sure what is meant by "YouTube froze its accounts..." Is that a reference to the halting of commercial operations in Russia, as reported by the BBC?
Please update that paragraph for clarity.
I have not removed the article from the review queue in case another reviewer feels it is publishable as-is or by removing the paragraph entirely. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 16:05, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], I will review this in a moment. [[User:CSMention269|CSM.in]] ([[User talk:CSMention269|talk]]) 16:07, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
::Yes @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], it's a reference to the halting of commercial operations in Russia. And I made the corrections. Pls see. [[User:CSMention269|CSM.in]] ([[User talk:CSMention269|talk]]) 16:12, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
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== Google's response ==
There does seem to be a response from Google[https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/31/tech/google-fines-russia/index.html] that we should report on for [[WN:NPOV]]. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 16:09, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
:{{done}} and amended. [[User:CSMention269|CSM.in]] ([[User talk:CSMention269|talk]]) 05:04, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
== Edit for clarity ==
The seventh paragraph reads: "YouTube froze its accounts following the sanctions by the United States on Russian Invasion of Ukraine in 2022, which impacted its subsidiary at Russia in bankruptcy and paused its commercial operations."
The local (Russian) YouTube is the subsidiary. It's a local subsidiary of Google.
I'm not sure what is meant by "YouTube froze its accounts..." Is that a reference to the halting of commercial operations in Russia, as reported by the BBC?
Please update that paragraph for clarity.
I have not removed the article from the review queue in case another reviewer feels it is publishable as-is or by removing the paragraph entirely. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 16:05, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], I will review this in a moment. [[User:CSMention269|CSM.in]] ([[User talk:CSMention269|talk]]) 16:07, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
::Yes @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], it's a reference to the halting of commercial operations in Russia. And I made the corrections. Pls see. [[User:CSMention269|CSM.in]] ([[User talk:CSMention269|talk]]) 16:12, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
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'''Salem, India:''' Salem’s newly constructed bus station, intended to streamline travel for commuters, is now facing scrutiny from the public due to vendor arrangements along the platform walkways. Despite the convenience offered by the abundance of stalls—selling items like fruit, flowers, tea, bakery goods, and mobile accessories—their placement has led to congestion, complicating foot traffic in key areas of the foot traffic in key areas of the station.
[[File:Salem News Busstand Shop's.jpg|thumb|left|Salem News Busstand Shop's]]
The bustling arrangement of stalls has drawn comparisons to a hypermarket, where visitors find almost everything in one place. However, complaints are emerging over certain practices by the vendors. Notably, many have been accused of selling goods above the legally defined Maximum Retail Price (MRP). For example, travelers report that a packet of biscuits with an MRP of 30 rupees is commonly sold for 33 to 35 rupees within the station.
[[File:Shop's inside Salem News Busstand.jpg|thumb|right|Shop's inside Salem News Busstand]]
Vendors, when questioned, often cite high rental costs as the reason for the inflated prices. Some state that they have little control over pricing, explaining that their rates are set by the management that oversees the stalls.
The situation is further complicated by seasonal challenges. During the rainy season, water often pools around the station, while litter from the stalls clogs drainage systems. Sanitation workers have voiced frustrations, indicating that the increased litter makes it challenging to maintain a clean environment.
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These issues have garnered attention from local news outlets and media; however, many commuters feel that lasting solutions are still lacking. Both travelers and residents are now urging Salem’s civic authorities to take decisive action to address vendor practices and ensure that the station remains accessible, affordable, and clean for all.
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'''Salem, Yercaud, India:''' A regional celebration for the 2024-2025 academic year under the New India Literacy Programme (NILP) took place in Yercaud on Friday. The event brought together participants from Salem, Dharmapuri, Namakkal, and Krishnagiri districts to honor and promote literacy.
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'''Salem, Yercaud, India:''' A regional celebration for the 2024-2025 academic year under the New India Literacy Programme (NILP) took place in Yercaud on Friday. The event brought together participants from Salem, Dharmapuri, Namakkal, and Krishnagiri districts to honor and promote literacy.
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The program featured a variety of cultural performances, showcasing traditional folk arts such as folk songs, indigenous instrumental music, Bharatanatyam, folk dances, and group performances of Kolattam, Oyilattam, Mayilattam, and Karagattam.
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[[File:NILP Salem 2.jpg|thumb|NILP Celebration Salem Zone 2024]]
The program featured a variety of cultural performances, showcasing traditional folk arts such as folk songs, indigenous instrumental music, Bharatanatyam, folk dances, and group performances of Kolattam, Oyilattam, Mayilattam, and Karagattam.
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[[File:NILP Salem 1.jpg|thumb|left|NILP Celebration Salem Zone]]
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[[File:NILP Salem 2.jpg|thumb|NILP Celebration Salem Zone 2024]]
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User talk:Polax50
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User talk:9311saurav
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User talk:Prasadfernando9
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User talk:NaThanD 312
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User talk:عبدالله Abdallah
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User talk:Flor WMCH
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User talk:MaritzaSams022
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Two Days to the Election: an Update
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With Nov. 5 slowly approaching, we all must be wondering, how are our candidates doing?
For a U.S. president to be elected, one would need 270 electoral college votes. As a result of this system, candidates target high-vote states known as battleground states. These include California, at fifty-four votes; Texas, at forty votes; Florida, at thirty votes; and New York, at twenty-eight votes.
Our Democratic and Republican nominees are currently campaigning to gain favor in two groups; Former President Trump would like to amend a former statement of offense to journalists, while Vice President Harris seeks to find voters in the Arab-American community.
Former President Trump was initially alleged to have made a statement about "shoot[ing] through reporters." However, he has now said that he would not support such a thing. Specifically, he meant that he wouldn't mind shots "through the fake news."
In Michigan, a minor battleground state, Vice President Harris stated that while the "Arab American" community is "not a monolith," she acknowledged their concerns. She emphasized that she was running for an office to be a public servant, and that she would do what she could to end their war.
It is good for these candidates to make their statements now, because After election day, we'll all watch the vote-count, with or without them. While our candidates attempt to endear themselves to us, we must decide who to vote for; get out and vote!
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With Nov. 5 slowly approaching, we all must be wondering, how are our candidates doing?
For a U.S. president to be elected, one would need 270 electoral college votes. As a result of this system, candidates target high-vote states known as battleground states. These include California, at fifty-four votes; Texas, at forty votes; Florida, at thirty votes; and New York, at twenty-eight votes.
Our Democratic and Republican nominees are currently campaigning to gain favor in two groups; Former President Trump would like to amend a former statement of offense to journalists, while Vice President Harris seeks to find voters in the Arab-American community.
Former President Trump was initially alleged to have made a statement about "shoot[ing] through reporters." However, he has now said that he would not support such a thing. Specifically, he meant that he wouldn't mind shots "through the fake news."
In Michigan, a minor battleground state, Vice President Harris stated that while the "Arab American" community is "not a monolith," she acknowledged their concerns. She emphasized that she was running for an office to be a public servant, and that she would do what she could to end their war.
It is good for these candidates to make their statements now, because After election day, we'll all watch the vote-count, with or without them. While our candidates attempt to endear themselves to us, we must decide who to vote for; get out and vote!
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User talk:Utibe Noah Silas
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User talk:Ophelia80
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User talk:彼路斯何
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User talk:Khunou S
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