User talk:Bawolff

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== De-admin?? ==

As a Bureaucrat, I am a bit embarrassed to ask this, but: I've never taken anyone's keys away here. There is a user who is OK with being de-admin'd.... ''but I'm not sure how to do that''. Can you advise, please?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:59, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
:{{ping|Bddpaux}} I think you can just do it from [[Special:UserRights]]. On some wikis Bureaucrat's are not allowed to remove admin rights (In which case you have to ask on the steward's noticeboard on meta), but i believe wikinews is one of the wikis where crats are allowed to remove admin. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 21:59, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

== {{tl|Wikt}} ==

Hey Bawolff, when you've got some time can you make leadGenerator.js strip {{tl|wikt}} links (/\{\{[wiktWikt]\|([^\}]+)\}\}/g)? (It would be great as well to switch the .imgMap maps to .svg's and add support for South Sudan.) Thanks! [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 15:00, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

== social media (cross-posted to all members of reviewer group) ==

Hi, [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous#social_media_for_reviewers_and_authors_and_developers]] may be of interest to you as a reviewer, thanks and regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:53, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

== Requesting a review ==

Hello @[[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]], I can see that Wikinews has not published any articles since January 4, so I am reaching out to request a review of my first article here: [[World Athletics Indoor Championships concludes in Glasgow with new world records and significant wins]]

I understand you aren't currently active, but I was wondering if you could review the article, or if not then could you please approve [[Wikinews:Flagged revisions/Requests for permissions/Asheiou|Asheiou's RfP here]]? It seems like there is an inactivity issue and I would really appreciate your prompt help. --[[User:Habst|Habst]] ([[User talk:Habst|talk]]) 14:23, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

== Reminder to vote now to select members of the first U4C ==

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== Your lack of activity ==


Your last review was in October 2021 which is nearly 3 years ago. Your last admin action was in March 2024 (technically), but it was an action that should not have been taken and one you later reverted. Outside of this, your last admin action was in October 2018, nearly 6 years ago. According to &lt;nowiki&gt;[[WN:PEP]]&lt;/nowiki&gt; users who do not use those permissions for 2 years will have them removed. This is just a notice and I have not requested removal of your permissions. You will also be renotified at least once more before I make a request for removal of your permissions. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 18:35, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

:I defer to the wikinews community what rights they want me to have. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 19:07, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
::Second notification, I might request removal of your reviewer and admin rights soon [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 11:53, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

== Help with review ==

Hi 

(I am messaging all reviewers)

Hope you are doing well.

Here are submitted for peer review:

* [[Photo exhibition “Ethnic features of the world people” took place in the Crimean capital]]
* [[On the campaign trail in the USA, June 2024]]
*[[&quot;Machu Picchu, and not only...&quot;, a new photo exhibition by Viktor Pinchuk was held in Crimea]]

Could you please review? Even a little edit or just one review would help a lot. (I don't require a commitment to review every day from now on.)

Would you like to get notified of new drafts submitted for review? If so, please tell me which topics (or any topic) and where (email, wiki messages, push notification on smart phone, notification in wiki Notifications, or somewhere else).

Would you find a [[WN:RNA]] page for reviewers useful, it would be similar to [[WN:AAA]] but intended for reviewers to discuss reviewing and related software.

Would you be interested other communications off-wiki to create audio or video contact with other reviewers? I think this online gathering could be an essential part to deduce how to make article authoring and review easier. It could be just 30 minutes a month, and you don't have to participate every time. I would write a meeting minutes note after each session and publish it on-wiki if desired.

Thanks!

Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:24, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

== Errors from EasyPeerReview ==

I am receiving two errors from EasyPeerReview when publishing. This is new behavior. 

Error 1: WWC error [step 1] [tell bawolff]:api is not a function

Error 2: Easy Peer Review experienced some issue when creating opinion page.
Please tell [[user:Bawolff]] (include browser and technical details).
Technical details: api is not a function

Let me know if there is anything I can do on my end to help with debugging. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 16:04, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</text>
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== De-admin?? ==

As a Bureaucrat, I am a bit embarrassed to ask this, but: I've never taken anyone's keys away here. There is a user who is OK with being de-admin'd.... ''but I'm not sure how to do that''. Can you advise, please?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:59, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
:{{ping|Bddpaux}} I think you can just do it from [[Special:UserRights]]. On some wikis Bureaucrat's are not allowed to remove admin rights (In which case you have to ask on the steward's noticeboard on meta), but i believe wikinews is one of the wikis where crats are allowed to remove admin. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 21:59, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

== {{tl|Wikt}} ==

Hey Bawolff, when you've got some time can you make leadGenerator.js strip {{tl|wikt}} links (/\{\{[wiktWikt]\|([^\}]+)\}\}/g)? (It would be great as well to switch the .imgMap maps to .svg's and add support for South Sudan.) Thanks! [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 15:00, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

== social media (cross-posted to all members of reviewer group) ==

Hi, [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous#social_media_for_reviewers_and_authors_and_developers]] may be of interest to you as a reviewer, thanks and regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:53, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

== Requesting a review ==

Hello @[[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]], I can see that Wikinews has not published any articles since January 4, so I am reaching out to request a review of my first article here: [[World Athletics Indoor Championships concludes in Glasgow with new world records and significant wins]]

I understand you aren't currently active, but I was wondering if you could review the article, or if not then could you please approve [[Wikinews:Flagged revisions/Requests for permissions/Asheiou|Asheiou's RfP here]]? It seems like there is an inactivity issue and I would really appreciate your prompt help. --[[User:Habst|Habst]] ([[User talk:Habst|talk]]) 14:23, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

== Reminder to vote now to select members of the first U4C ==

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Dear Wikimedian,

You are receiving this message because you previously participated in the UCoC process.

This is a reminder that the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) ends on May 9, 2024. Read the information on the [[m:Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2024|voting page on Meta-wiki]] to learn more about voting and voter eligibility.

The Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. Community members were invited to submit their applications for the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, please [[m:Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Charter|review the U4C Charter]].

Please share this message with members of your community so they can participate as well.

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== Your lack of activity ==


Your last review was in October 2021 which is nearly 3 years ago. Your last admin action was in March 2024 (technically), but it was an action that should not have been taken and one you later reverted. Outside of this, your last admin action was in October 2018, nearly 6 years ago. According to &lt;nowiki&gt;[[WN:PEP]]&lt;/nowiki&gt; users who do not use those permissions for 2 years will have them removed. This is just a notice and I have not requested removal of your permissions. You will also be renotified at least once more before I make a request for removal of your permissions. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 18:35, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

:I defer to the wikinews community what rights they want me to have. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 19:07, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
::Second notification, I might request removal of your reviewer and admin rights soon [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 11:53, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

== Help with review ==

Hi 

(I am messaging all reviewers)

Hope you are doing well.

Here are submitted for peer review:

* [[Photo exhibition “Ethnic features of the world people” took place in the Crimean capital]]
* [[On the campaign trail in the USA, June 2024]]
*[[&quot;Machu Picchu, and not only...&quot;, a new photo exhibition by Viktor Pinchuk was held in Crimea]]

Could you please review? Even a little edit or just one review would help a lot. (I don't require a commitment to review every day from now on.)

Would you like to get notified of new drafts submitted for review? If so, please tell me which topics (or any topic) and where (email, wiki messages, push notification on smart phone, notification in wiki Notifications, or somewhere else).

Would you find a [[WN:RNA]] page for reviewers useful, it would be similar to [[WN:AAA]] but intended for reviewers to discuss reviewing and related software.

Would you be interested other communications off-wiki to create audio or video contact with other reviewers? I think this online gathering could be an essential part to deduce how to make article authoring and review easier. It could be just 30 minutes a month, and you don't have to participate every time. I would write a meeting minutes note after each session and publish it on-wiki if desired.

Thanks!

Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:24, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

== Errors from EasyPeerReview ==

I am receiving two errors from EasyPeerReview when publishing. This is new behavior. 

Error 1: WWC error [step 1] [tell bawolff]:api is not a function

Error 2: Easy Peer Review experienced some issue when creating opinion page.
Please tell [[user:Bawolff]] (include browser and technical details).
Technical details: api is not a function

Let me know if there is anything I can do on my end to help with debugging. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 16:04, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

:I forgot to mention that [[WN:ML]] has also stopped working for me; nothing happens when I click the &quot;Make lead&quot; button. I don't know if the problems are related. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 16:12, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</text>
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== De-admin?? ==

As a Bureaucrat, I am a bit embarrassed to ask this, but: I've never taken anyone's keys away here. There is a user who is OK with being de-admin'd.... ''but I'm not sure how to do that''. Can you advise, please?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:59, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
:{{ping|Bddpaux}} I think you can just do it from [[Special:UserRights]]. On some wikis Bureaucrat's are not allowed to remove admin rights (In which case you have to ask on the steward's noticeboard on meta), but i believe wikinews is one of the wikis where crats are allowed to remove admin. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 21:59, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

== {{tl|Wikt}} ==

Hey Bawolff, when you've got some time can you make leadGenerator.js strip {{tl|wikt}} links (/\{\{[wiktWikt]\|([^\}]+)\}\}/g)? (It would be great as well to switch the .imgMap maps to .svg's and add support for South Sudan.) Thanks! [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 15:00, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

== social media (cross-posted to all members of reviewer group) ==

Hi, [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous#social_media_for_reviewers_and_authors_and_developers]] may be of interest to you as a reviewer, thanks and regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:53, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

== Requesting a review ==

Hello @[[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]], I can see that Wikinews has not published any articles since January 4, so I am reaching out to request a review of my first article here: [[World Athletics Indoor Championships concludes in Glasgow with new world records and significant wins]]

I understand you aren't currently active, but I was wondering if you could review the article, or if not then could you please approve [[Wikinews:Flagged revisions/Requests for permissions/Asheiou|Asheiou's RfP here]]? It seems like there is an inactivity issue and I would really appreciate your prompt help. --[[User:Habst|Habst]] ([[User talk:Habst|talk]]) 14:23, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

== Reminder to vote now to select members of the first U4C ==

&lt;section begin=&quot;announcement-content&quot; /&gt;
:''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2024/Announcement – vote reminder|You can find this message translated into additional languages on Meta-wiki.]] [https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&amp;group=page-{{urlencode:Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2024/Announcement – vote reminder}}&amp;language=&amp;action=page&amp;filter= {{int:please-translate}}]''

Dear Wikimedian,

You are receiving this message because you previously participated in the UCoC process.

This is a reminder that the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) ends on May 9, 2024. Read the information on the [[m:Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2024|voting page on Meta-wiki]] to learn more about voting and voter eligibility.

The Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. Community members were invited to submit their applications for the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, please [[m:Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Charter|review the U4C Charter]].

Please share this message with members of your community so they can participate as well.

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== Your lack of activity ==


Your last review was in October 2021 which is nearly 3 years ago. Your last admin action was in March 2024 (technically), but it was an action that should not have been taken and one you later reverted. Outside of this, your last admin action was in October 2018, nearly 6 years ago. According to &lt;nowiki&gt;[[WN:PEP]]&lt;/nowiki&gt; users who do not use those permissions for 2 years will have them removed. This is just a notice and I have not requested removal of your permissions. You will also be renotified at least once more before I make a request for removal of your permissions. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 18:35, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

:I defer to the wikinews community what rights they want me to have. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 19:07, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
::Second notification, I might request removal of your reviewer and admin rights soon [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 11:53, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

== Help with review ==

Hi 

(I am messaging all reviewers)

Hope you are doing well.

Here are submitted for peer review:

* [[Photo exhibition “Ethnic features of the world people” took place in the Crimean capital]]
* [[On the campaign trail in the USA, June 2024]]
*[[&quot;Machu Picchu, and not only...&quot;, a new photo exhibition by Viktor Pinchuk was held in Crimea]]

Could you please review? Even a little edit or just one review would help a lot. (I don't require a commitment to review every day from now on.)

Would you like to get notified of new drafts submitted for review? If so, please tell me which topics (or any topic) and where (email, wiki messages, push notification on smart phone, notification in wiki Notifications, or somewhere else).

Would you find a [[WN:RNA]] page for reviewers useful, it would be similar to [[WN:AAA]] but intended for reviewers to discuss reviewing and related software.

Would you be interested other communications off-wiki to create audio or video contact with other reviewers? I think this online gathering could be an essential part to deduce how to make article authoring and review easier. It could be just 30 minutes a month, and you don't have to participate every time. I would write a meeting minutes note after each session and publish it on-wiki if desired.

Thanks!

Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:24, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

== Errors from EasyPeerReview ==

I am receiving two errors from EasyPeerReview when publishing. This is new behavior. 

Error 1: WWC error [step 1] [tell bawolff]:api is not a function

Error 2: Easy Peer Review experienced some issue when creating opinion page.
Please tell [[user:Bawolff]] (include browser and technical details).
Technical details: api is not a function

Let me know if there is anything I can do on my end to help with debugging. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 16:04, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

:I forgot to mention that [[WN:ML]] has also stopped working for me; nothing happens when I click the &quot;Make lead&quot; button. I don't know if the problems are related. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 16:12, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
::Not sure what is going on here. Do other people also experience this issue? [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 11:02, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</text>
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== Expand the abandoned template ==

I've edited it to include time of last edit to article and article talk (as i check this info manually each time to ensure the article was not un-abandoned) and wanted to also add time when the abandoned template was added to article but this one got stuck as all it does is show five tildas. Please see my edited version at {{tl|Gryllida-Abandoned‎}} and merge these changes into {{tl|abandoned}} if possible (or make your own copy and then i can merge for you). Thanks in advance. [[File:Smiley.svg|20px]] [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:05, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

== Can and should en.Wikinews be revitalized ==

I believe the writing is on the wall with the Sibling Project Lifecycle, as [[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]] initially indicated [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous/archives/2024/May#Feedback_invited_on_Procedure_for_Sibling_Project_Lifecycle|here]]. 

Today I also found that Flagged Revisions, the extension that underpins our ability to protect Published articles is no longer supported and is considered &quot;clunky, complex and not recommended for production use.&quot;[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs], [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185664] For a sense of what kind of support we might get if there is a problem with using 'clunky' and unsupported software, read [[w:User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_247#The_Wikimedia_Foundation_broke_Russian_Wikinews_again|this old WP thread]].

We have had a years-long struggle with maintaining an adequate number of active reviewers and have a seriously hard time with regular maintenance such as updating our generations-old copyright license.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy#Update_of_license]

We have recently permitted global sysops to assist with everyday admin tasks because we don't have enough active admins to help keep up with the basic work of deleting vandalism.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy/archives/2024/June#Opt_in_global_sysops?]

More often wn.WN is getting essentially scooped by en.WP on news stories. The latest example is [[w:Killing of Yahya Sinwar|Killing of Yahya Sinwar]]. When viewed or considered as if one wants to shutter en.WN, and if we discount the advantage of peer review (which arguably WP has), there is no real advantage of en.WN publishing our article in addition to the coverage that en.WP already has on that event. WP has much better reach as far as readership, the platform is better-maintained, its impact on the Internet-at-large far exceeds en.WN, and the WP community is highly active.

en.WN by contrast is 1) not highly active, 2) does not significantly impact the wider Internet infrastructure or other wiki projects, 3) lacks the resources necessary to sustainably execute the project's mission, and 4) has a strong external project to merge with; WP. These are four of the six criteria to consider for closing projects.[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Procedure_for_Sibling_Project_Lifecycle/revised#Closing_projects,_including_adoption,_merging,_etc.]

I personally would like to see this project revitalized and I'm all-in however I can help. We need more urgency and organization from more reviewers and admin to get things turned around and pump some new life into the project. That's not to say only reviewers and admin are needed, but we certainly can't move forward without them.  

If you agree and have ideas, please share them here. If you disagree and think I'm making a mountain out of a mole hill, please let me know. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 19:10, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

:Should? Yes. Can? Jury's out.
:If you look at community discussions for the past 12 years or so, there are routine discussions about how Wikinews is dying and we need to do &lt;var&gt;x&lt;/var&gt; to save it. In reality, when Wikinews was founded, that was the golden age of citizen journalists and semi-professional bloggers, before a lot of that got gobbled up by social media sites (c. 2003 to 2010). I think there's still a place for Wikinews and I hope it's successful, but I'm not very optimistic about any legitimate course for Wikinews to be a place where someone could read the homepage and click thru on a number of articles to be reasonably informed about current affairs, which is the basic measure of whether or not a general interest news site is successful. And since ostensibly, Wikinews has no ''particular'' geographic scope (unlike a local newspaper) or point of view (like a political party-run paper or a government propaganda outlet) or limitation on topics (unlike specialist publications), the reasonable amount of stories published on Wikinews to meet its mandate would be several hundred a day at a minimum and ideal maybe... 20,000? about local news, sports, scientific findings, interviews, human interest stories, photojournalism, exposes, investigative journalism, and so on. Wikinews is really orders of magnitude away from where it ''should'' be and it would require thousands and thousands of active editors to even approach that, but even if we were just narrowly trying to cover the dozen or so biggest stories of the day, plus some original reporting, that's already a struggle here.
:I don't want to be dour, but the situation is dire and I will continue to contribute original reporting to Wikinews and do occasional maintenance, but we should be realistic about how Wikinews is basically irrelevant to the online news landscape and is easily the weakest of all our sister projects. Even other small projects like [[:b:]] or [[:v:]] could in principle &quot;catch up&quot; to where they need to be, because it's not like there is an urgent need for a few hundred new textbooks a day, so we could kinda/sorta get around to those sooner or later, but when news becomes old it ceases to be news at all. The problem actually only gets ''worse'' day by day. :/
:If anyone out there has great brainstorming on how to achieve that goal or get even 1% of the way to it, I'm all ears. Unfortunately, I've chimed in on these conversations many times over the past decade and the problem persists. The only reasonable ideas that I have ever come up with are 1.) having journalism students at universities publish here and 2.) copy news from appropriately-licensed venues. In the past, the community has more-or-less rejected the latter. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (&lt;span style=&quot;color:grey&quot;&gt;ko'''a'''vf&lt;/span&gt;)]]&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯&lt;/span&gt; 00:06, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
:I've written a proposal at water cooler, the idea is to write shorter stories to get them out more quickly. Can do without flagged revs if needed but i'd like to keep it on to prevent spammers from getting into news feed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:03, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
::(Note that the idea was tested and worked; however needs at least one author and at least one reviewer, i.e. two persons at minimum, so @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] and @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], you guys are welcome to write a short story once a week in a hope the other reviewer would get it reviewed quickly. Check latest feed for examples.) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:05, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
:::For every article a reviewer writes, at least two reviewers' time is consumed. If we think about a reviewer's time being the ability to do work, i.e., publish a story, and one reviewer 'unit' can be spent on any given article to ''either'' write/expand it ''or'' review it, then any time reviewer units are scarce for the project, reviewer units (I think) should be used to review/coach, not to write/expand. 

:::And I consider myself 1/2 or .5 of a reviewer unit. Reviews take me more time as I learn how to review and publish effectively, accurately, etc. It will also consume another reviewer to double-check my work and possibly issue corrections if the work can't be checked within 24 hours (as has happened).

:::I believe this is an 'all hands on deck' situation for both reviewers and admins. I'm starting to wonder if the more established or senior reviewers and admins are like the proverbial frogs in boiling water, unaware of how the environment is changing around them. It seems they might be thinking, 'It's always been like this, nothing has collapsed yet, so what's the big deal?'

:::I went to the front page of en.Wikipedia today and there is a section titled &quot;In The News.&quot; None of the links in that section point to en.WN. None of the linked articles have 'sister links' to en.WN articles. We're already effectively replaced. 

:::{{tq|I don't want to be dour, but the situation is dire...but we should be realistic about how Wikinews is basically irrelevant to the online news landscape and is easily the weakest of all our sister projects.}} I agree with [[User:Koavf|Justin's]] assessment and I think the only way we change the situation is 1. more active reviewers and 2. some sort of updated (faster/easier/more-efficient) way of reviewing. We need the first in order to accomplish the second. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 00:53, 20 October 2024 (UTC) 
::::Replied at the 'assistance' water cooler page. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:19, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

:Global sysops isn't needed now i believe. Mon to Fri i'm helping when there's not a class. I'm sure we can find a couple more volunteers if my proposed model continues. See also '''[[Wikinews:Water_cooler/assistance#Mailing_lists|more details...]]'''. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:08, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

== 'Wikidata item' link is moving, finally. ==

Hello everyone, I previously wrote on the 27th September to advise that the ''Wikidata item'' sitelink will change places in the sidebar menu, moving from the '''General''' section into the '''In Other Projects''' section. The scheduled rollout date of 04.10.2024 was delayed due to a necessary request for Mobile/MinervaNeue skin. I am happy to inform that the global rollout can now proceed and will occur later today, 22.10.2024 at 15:00 UTC-2. [[m:Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link|Please let us know]] if you notice any problems or bugs after this change. There should be no need for null-edits or purging cache for the changes to occur. Kind regards, -[[m:User:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)|Danny Benjafield (WMDE)]] 11:29, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
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== Date categories ==

How are the dates categories created for published articles? Is it a manual process done each month? —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 16:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</text>
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== Expand the abandoned template ==

I've edited it to include time of last edit to article and article talk (as i check this info manually each time to ensure the article was not un-abandoned) and wanted to also add time when the abandoned template was added to article but this one got stuck as all it does is show five tildas. Please see my edited version at {{tl|Gryllida-Abandoned‎}} and merge these changes into {{tl|abandoned}} if possible (or make your own copy and then i can merge for you). Thanks in advance. [[File:Smiley.svg|20px]] [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:05, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

== Can and should en.Wikinews be revitalized ==

I believe the writing is on the wall with the Sibling Project Lifecycle, as [[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]] initially indicated [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous/archives/2024/May#Feedback_invited_on_Procedure_for_Sibling_Project_Lifecycle|here]]. 

Today I also found that Flagged Revisions, the extension that underpins our ability to protect Published articles is no longer supported and is considered &quot;clunky, complex and not recommended for production use.&quot;[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs], [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185664] For a sense of what kind of support we might get if there is a problem with using 'clunky' and unsupported software, read [[w:User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_247#The_Wikimedia_Foundation_broke_Russian_Wikinews_again|this old WP thread]].

We have had a years-long struggle with maintaining an adequate number of active reviewers and have a seriously hard time with regular maintenance such as updating our generations-old copyright license.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy#Update_of_license]

We have recently permitted global sysops to assist with everyday admin tasks because we don't have enough active admins to help keep up with the basic work of deleting vandalism.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy/archives/2024/June#Opt_in_global_sysops?]

More often wn.WN is getting essentially scooped by en.WP on news stories. The latest example is [[w:Killing of Yahya Sinwar|Killing of Yahya Sinwar]]. When viewed or considered as if one wants to shutter en.WN, and if we discount the advantage of peer review (which arguably WP has), there is no real advantage of en.WN publishing our article in addition to the coverage that en.WP already has on that event. WP has much better reach as far as readership, the platform is better-maintained, its impact on the Internet-at-large far exceeds en.WN, and the WP community is highly active.

en.WN by contrast is 1) not highly active, 2) does not significantly impact the wider Internet infrastructure or other wiki projects, 3) lacks the resources necessary to sustainably execute the project's mission, and 4) has a strong external project to merge with; WP. These are four of the six criteria to consider for closing projects.[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Procedure_for_Sibling_Project_Lifecycle/revised#Closing_projects,_including_adoption,_merging,_etc.]

I personally would like to see this project revitalized and I'm all-in however I can help. We need more urgency and organization from more reviewers and admin to get things turned around and pump some new life into the project. That's not to say only reviewers and admin are needed, but we certainly can't move forward without them.  

If you agree and have ideas, please share them here. If you disagree and think I'm making a mountain out of a mole hill, please let me know. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 19:10, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

:Should? Yes. Can? Jury's out.
:If you look at community discussions for the past 12 years or so, there are routine discussions about how Wikinews is dying and we need to do &lt;var&gt;x&lt;/var&gt; to save it. In reality, when Wikinews was founded, that was the golden age of citizen journalists and semi-professional bloggers, before a lot of that got gobbled up by social media sites (c. 2003 to 2010). I think there's still a place for Wikinews and I hope it's successful, but I'm not very optimistic about any legitimate course for Wikinews to be a place where someone could read the homepage and click thru on a number of articles to be reasonably informed about current affairs, which is the basic measure of whether or not a general interest news site is successful. And since ostensibly, Wikinews has no ''particular'' geographic scope (unlike a local newspaper) or point of view (like a political party-run paper or a government propaganda outlet) or limitation on topics (unlike specialist publications), the reasonable amount of stories published on Wikinews to meet its mandate would be several hundred a day at a minimum and ideal maybe... 20,000? about local news, sports, scientific findings, interviews, human interest stories, photojournalism, exposes, investigative journalism, and so on. Wikinews is really orders of magnitude away from where it ''should'' be and it would require thousands and thousands of active editors to even approach that, but even if we were just narrowly trying to cover the dozen or so biggest stories of the day, plus some original reporting, that's already a struggle here.
:I don't want to be dour, but the situation is dire and I will continue to contribute original reporting to Wikinews and do occasional maintenance, but we should be realistic about how Wikinews is basically irrelevant to the online news landscape and is easily the weakest of all our sister projects. Even other small projects like [[:b:]] or [[:v:]] could in principle &quot;catch up&quot; to where they need to be, because it's not like there is an urgent need for a few hundred new textbooks a day, so we could kinda/sorta get around to those sooner or later, but when news becomes old it ceases to be news at all. The problem actually only gets ''worse'' day by day. :/
:If anyone out there has great brainstorming on how to achieve that goal or get even 1% of the way to it, I'm all ears. Unfortunately, I've chimed in on these conversations many times over the past decade and the problem persists. The only reasonable ideas that I have ever come up with are 1.) having journalism students at universities publish here and 2.) copy news from appropriately-licensed venues. In the past, the community has more-or-less rejected the latter. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (&lt;span style=&quot;color:grey&quot;&gt;ko'''a'''vf&lt;/span&gt;)]]&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯&lt;/span&gt; 00:06, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
:I've written a proposal at water cooler, the idea is to write shorter stories to get them out more quickly. Can do without flagged revs if needed but i'd like to keep it on to prevent spammers from getting into news feed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:03, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
::(Note that the idea was tested and worked; however needs at least one author and at least one reviewer, i.e. two persons at minimum, so @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] and @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], you guys are welcome to write a short story once a week in a hope the other reviewer would get it reviewed quickly. Check latest feed for examples.) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:05, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
:::For every article a reviewer writes, at least two reviewers' time is consumed. If we think about a reviewer's time being the ability to do work, i.e., publish a story, and one reviewer 'unit' can be spent on any given article to ''either'' write/expand it ''or'' review it, then any time reviewer units are scarce for the project, reviewer units (I think) should be used to review/coach, not to write/expand. 

:::And I consider myself 1/2 or .5 of a reviewer unit. Reviews take me more time as I learn how to review and publish effectively, accurately, etc. It will also consume another reviewer to double-check my work and possibly issue corrections if the work can't be checked within 24 hours (as has happened).

:::I believe this is an 'all hands on deck' situation for both reviewers and admins. I'm starting to wonder if the more established or senior reviewers and admins are like the proverbial frogs in boiling water, unaware of how the environment is changing around them. It seems they might be thinking, 'It's always been like this, nothing has collapsed yet, so what's the big deal?'

:::I went to the front page of en.Wikipedia today and there is a section titled &quot;In The News.&quot; None of the links in that section point to en.WN. None of the linked articles have 'sister links' to en.WN articles. We're already effectively replaced. 

:::{{tq|I don't want to be dour, but the situation is dire...but we should be realistic about how Wikinews is basically irrelevant to the online news landscape and is easily the weakest of all our sister projects.}} I agree with [[User:Koavf|Justin's]] assessment and I think the only way we change the situation is 1. more active reviewers and 2. some sort of updated (faster/easier/more-efficient) way of reviewing. We need the first in order to accomplish the second. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 00:53, 20 October 2024 (UTC) 
::::Replied at the 'assistance' water cooler page. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:19, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

:Global sysops isn't needed now i believe. Mon to Fri i'm helping when there's not a class. I'm sure we can find a couple more volunteers if my proposed model continues. See also '''[[Wikinews:Water_cooler/assistance#Mailing_lists|more details...]]'''. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:08, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

== 'Wikidata item' link is moving, finally. ==

Hello everyone, I previously wrote on the 27th September to advise that the ''Wikidata item'' sitelink will change places in the sidebar menu, moving from the '''General''' section into the '''In Other Projects''' section. The scheduled rollout date of 04.10.2024 was delayed due to a necessary request for Mobile/MinervaNeue skin. I am happy to inform that the global rollout can now proceed and will occur later today, 22.10.2024 at 15:00 UTC-2. [[m:Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link|Please let us know]] if you notice any problems or bugs after this change. There should be no need for null-edits or purging cache for the changes to occur. Kind regards, -[[m:User:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)|Danny Benjafield (WMDE)]] 11:29, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
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== Date categories ==

How are the dates categories created for published articles? Is it a manual process done each month? —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 16:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

:Stories (always?) begin with {{tl|date}} and the first parameter has the date, adding the category. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (&lt;span style=&quot;color:grey&quot;&gt;ko'''a'''vf&lt;/span&gt;)]]&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯&lt;/span&gt; 18:21, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</text>
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== Expand the abandoned template ==

I've edited it to include time of last edit to article and article talk (as i check this info manually each time to ensure the article was not un-abandoned) and wanted to also add time when the abandoned template was added to article but this one got stuck as all it does is show five tildas. Please see my edited version at {{tl|Gryllida-Abandoned‎}} and merge these changes into {{tl|abandoned}} if possible (or make your own copy and then i can merge for you). Thanks in advance. [[File:Smiley.svg|20px]] [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:05, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

== Can and should en.Wikinews be revitalized ==

I believe the writing is on the wall with the Sibling Project Lifecycle, as [[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]] initially indicated [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous/archives/2024/May#Feedback_invited_on_Procedure_for_Sibling_Project_Lifecycle|here]]. 

Today I also found that Flagged Revisions, the extension that underpins our ability to protect Published articles is no longer supported and is considered &quot;clunky, complex and not recommended for production use.&quot;[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs], [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185664] For a sense of what kind of support we might get if there is a problem with using 'clunky' and unsupported software, read [[w:User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_247#The_Wikimedia_Foundation_broke_Russian_Wikinews_again|this old WP thread]].

We have had a years-long struggle with maintaining an adequate number of active reviewers and have a seriously hard time with regular maintenance such as updating our generations-old copyright license.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy#Update_of_license]

We have recently permitted global sysops to assist with everyday admin tasks because we don't have enough active admins to help keep up with the basic work of deleting vandalism.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy/archives/2024/June#Opt_in_global_sysops?]

More often wn.WN is getting essentially scooped by en.WP on news stories. The latest example is [[w:Killing of Yahya Sinwar|Killing of Yahya Sinwar]]. When viewed or considered as if one wants to shutter en.WN, and if we discount the advantage of peer review (which arguably WP has), there is no real advantage of en.WN publishing our article in addition to the coverage that en.WP already has on that event. WP has much better reach as far as readership, the platform is better-maintained, its impact on the Internet-at-large far exceeds en.WN, and the WP community is highly active.

en.WN by contrast is 1) not highly active, 2) does not significantly impact the wider Internet infrastructure or other wiki projects, 3) lacks the resources necessary to sustainably execute the project's mission, and 4) has a strong external project to merge with; WP. These are four of the six criteria to consider for closing projects.[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Procedure_for_Sibling_Project_Lifecycle/revised#Closing_projects,_including_adoption,_merging,_etc.]

I personally would like to see this project revitalized and I'm all-in however I can help. We need more urgency and organization from more reviewers and admin to get things turned around and pump some new life into the project. That's not to say only reviewers and admin are needed, but we certainly can't move forward without them.  

If you agree and have ideas, please share them here. If you disagree and think I'm making a mountain out of a mole hill, please let me know. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 19:10, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

:Should? Yes. Can? Jury's out.
:If you look at community discussions for the past 12 years or so, there are routine discussions about how Wikinews is dying and we need to do &lt;var&gt;x&lt;/var&gt; to save it. In reality, when Wikinews was founded, that was the golden age of citizen journalists and semi-professional bloggers, before a lot of that got gobbled up by social media sites (c. 2003 to 2010). I think there's still a place for Wikinews and I hope it's successful, but I'm not very optimistic about any legitimate course for Wikinews to be a place where someone could read the homepage and click thru on a number of articles to be reasonably informed about current affairs, which is the basic measure of whether or not a general interest news site is successful. And since ostensibly, Wikinews has no ''particular'' geographic scope (unlike a local newspaper) or point of view (like a political party-run paper or a government propaganda outlet) or limitation on topics (unlike specialist publications), the reasonable amount of stories published on Wikinews to meet its mandate would be several hundred a day at a minimum and ideal maybe... 20,000? about local news, sports, scientific findings, interviews, human interest stories, photojournalism, exposes, investigative journalism, and so on. Wikinews is really orders of magnitude away from where it ''should'' be and it would require thousands and thousands of active editors to even approach that, but even if we were just narrowly trying to cover the dozen or so biggest stories of the day, plus some original reporting, that's already a struggle here.
:I don't want to be dour, but the situation is dire and I will continue to contribute original reporting to Wikinews and do occasional maintenance, but we should be realistic about how Wikinews is basically irrelevant to the online news landscape and is easily the weakest of all our sister projects. Even other small projects like [[:b:]] or [[:v:]] could in principle &quot;catch up&quot; to where they need to be, because it's not like there is an urgent need for a few hundred new textbooks a day, so we could kinda/sorta get around to those sooner or later, but when news becomes old it ceases to be news at all. The problem actually only gets ''worse'' day by day. :/
:If anyone out there has great brainstorming on how to achieve that goal or get even 1% of the way to it, I'm all ears. Unfortunately, I've chimed in on these conversations many times over the past decade and the problem persists. The only reasonable ideas that I have ever come up with are 1.) having journalism students at universities publish here and 2.) copy news from appropriately-licensed venues. In the past, the community has more-or-less rejected the latter. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (&lt;span style=&quot;color:grey&quot;&gt;ko'''a'''vf&lt;/span&gt;)]]&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯&lt;/span&gt; 00:06, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
:I've written a proposal at water cooler, the idea is to write shorter stories to get them out more quickly. Can do without flagged revs if needed but i'd like to keep it on to prevent spammers from getting into news feed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:03, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
::(Note that the idea was tested and worked; however needs at least one author and at least one reviewer, i.e. two persons at minimum, so @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] and @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], you guys are welcome to write a short story once a week in a hope the other reviewer would get it reviewed quickly. Check latest feed for examples.) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:05, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
:::For every article a reviewer writes, at least two reviewers' time is consumed. If we think about a reviewer's time being the ability to do work, i.e., publish a story, and one reviewer 'unit' can be spent on any given article to ''either'' write/expand it ''or'' review it, then any time reviewer units are scarce for the project, reviewer units (I think) should be used to review/coach, not to write/expand. 

:::And I consider myself 1/2 or .5 of a reviewer unit. Reviews take me more time as I learn how to review and publish effectively, accurately, etc. It will also consume another reviewer to double-check my work and possibly issue corrections if the work can't be checked within 24 hours (as has happened).

:::I believe this is an 'all hands on deck' situation for both reviewers and admins. I'm starting to wonder if the more established or senior reviewers and admins are like the proverbial frogs in boiling water, unaware of how the environment is changing around them. It seems they might be thinking, 'It's always been like this, nothing has collapsed yet, so what's the big deal?'

:::I went to the front page of en.Wikipedia today and there is a section titled &quot;In The News.&quot; None of the links in that section point to en.WN. None of the linked articles have 'sister links' to en.WN articles. We're already effectively replaced. 

:::{{tq|I don't want to be dour, but the situation is dire...but we should be realistic about how Wikinews is basically irrelevant to the online news landscape and is easily the weakest of all our sister projects.}} I agree with [[User:Koavf|Justin's]] assessment and I think the only way we change the situation is 1. more active reviewers and 2. some sort of updated (faster/easier/more-efficient) way of reviewing. We need the first in order to accomplish the second. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 00:53, 20 October 2024 (UTC) 
::::Replied at the 'assistance' water cooler page. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:19, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

:Global sysops isn't needed now i believe. Mon to Fri i'm helping when there's not a class. I'm sure we can find a couple more volunteers if my proposed model continues. See also '''[[Wikinews:Water_cooler/assistance#Mailing_lists|more details...]]'''. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:08, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

== 'Wikidata item' link is moving, finally. ==

Hello everyone, I previously wrote on the 27th September to advise that the ''Wikidata item'' sitelink will change places in the sidebar menu, moving from the '''General''' section into the '''In Other Projects''' section. The scheduled rollout date of 04.10.2024 was delayed due to a necessary request for Mobile/MinervaNeue skin. I am happy to inform that the global rollout can now proceed and will occur later today, 22.10.2024 at 15:00 UTC-2. [[m:Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link|Please let us know]] if you notice any problems or bugs after this change. There should be no need for null-edits or purging cache for the changes to occur. Kind regards, -[[m:User:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)|Danny Benjafield (WMDE)]] 11:29, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
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== Date categories ==

How are the dates categories created for published articles? Is it a manual process done each month? —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 16:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

:Stories (always?) begin with {{tl|date}} and the first parameter has the date, adding the category. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (&lt;span style=&quot;color:grey&quot;&gt;ko'''a'''vf&lt;/span&gt;)]]&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯&lt;/span&gt; 18:21, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
::I'm referring to categories such as this one: [[:Category:November 4, 2024]]. These categories are automatically added to published articles by EasyPeerReview. I'm hoping there is a tool that create the categories rather than requiring each date cat to be created manually. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 18:51, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</text>
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== Expand the abandoned template ==

I've edited it to include time of last edit to article and article talk (as i check this info manually each time to ensure the article was not un-abandoned) and wanted to also add time when the abandoned template was added to article but this one got stuck as all it does is show five tildas. Please see my edited version at {{tl|Gryllida-Abandoned‎}} and merge these changes into {{tl|abandoned}} if possible (or make your own copy and then i can merge for you). Thanks in advance. [[File:Smiley.svg|20px]] [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:05, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

== Can and should en.Wikinews be revitalized ==

I believe the writing is on the wall with the Sibling Project Lifecycle, as [[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]] initially indicated [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous/archives/2024/May#Feedback_invited_on_Procedure_for_Sibling_Project_Lifecycle|here]]. 

Today I also found that Flagged Revisions, the extension that underpins our ability to protect Published articles is no longer supported and is considered &quot;clunky, complex and not recommended for production use.&quot;[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs], [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185664] For a sense of what kind of support we might get if there is a problem with using 'clunky' and unsupported software, read [[w:User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_247#The_Wikimedia_Foundation_broke_Russian_Wikinews_again|this old WP thread]].

We have had a years-long struggle with maintaining an adequate number of active reviewers and have a seriously hard time with regular maintenance such as updating our generations-old copyright license.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy#Update_of_license]

We have recently permitted global sysops to assist with everyday admin tasks because we don't have enough active admins to help keep up with the basic work of deleting vandalism.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy/archives/2024/June#Opt_in_global_sysops?]

More often wn.WN is getting essentially scooped by en.WP on news stories. The latest example is [[w:Killing of Yahya Sinwar|Killing of Yahya Sinwar]]. When viewed or considered as if one wants to shutter en.WN, and if we discount the advantage of peer review (which arguably WP has), there is no real advantage of en.WN publishing our article in addition to the coverage that en.WP already has on that event. WP has much better reach as far as readership, the platform is better-maintained, its impact on the Internet-at-large far exceeds en.WN, and the WP community is highly active.

en.WN by contrast is 1) not highly active, 2) does not significantly impact the wider Internet infrastructure or other wiki projects, 3) lacks the resources necessary to sustainably execute the project's mission, and 4) has a strong external project to merge with; WP. These are four of the six criteria to consider for closing projects.[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Procedure_for_Sibling_Project_Lifecycle/revised#Closing_projects,_including_adoption,_merging,_etc.]

I personally would like to see this project revitalized and I'm all-in however I can help. We need more urgency and organization from more reviewers and admin to get things turned around and pump some new life into the project. That's not to say only reviewers and admin are needed, but we certainly can't move forward without them.  

If you agree and have ideas, please share them here. If you disagree and think I'm making a mountain out of a mole hill, please let me know. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 19:10, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

:Should? Yes. Can? Jury's out.
:If you look at community discussions for the past 12 years or so, there are routine discussions about how Wikinews is dying and we need to do &lt;var&gt;x&lt;/var&gt; to save it. In reality, when Wikinews was founded, that was the golden age of citizen journalists and semi-professional bloggers, before a lot of that got gobbled up by social media sites (c. 2003 to 2010). I think there's still a place for Wikinews and I hope it's successful, but I'm not very optimistic about any legitimate course for Wikinews to be a place where someone could read the homepage and click thru on a number of articles to be reasonably informed about current affairs, which is the basic measure of whether or not a general interest news site is successful. And since ostensibly, Wikinews has no ''particular'' geographic scope (unlike a local newspaper) or point of view (like a political party-run paper or a government propaganda outlet) or limitation on topics (unlike specialist publications), the reasonable amount of stories published on Wikinews to meet its mandate would be several hundred a day at a minimum and ideal maybe... 20,000? about local news, sports, scientific findings, interviews, human interest stories, photojournalism, exposes, investigative journalism, and so on. Wikinews is really orders of magnitude away from where it ''should'' be and it would require thousands and thousands of active editors to even approach that, but even if we were just narrowly trying to cover the dozen or so biggest stories of the day, plus some original reporting, that's already a struggle here.
:I don't want to be dour, but the situation is dire and I will continue to contribute original reporting to Wikinews and do occasional maintenance, but we should be realistic about how Wikinews is basically irrelevant to the online news landscape and is easily the weakest of all our sister projects. Even other small projects like [[:b:]] or [[:v:]] could in principle &quot;catch up&quot; to where they need to be, because it's not like there is an urgent need for a few hundred new textbooks a day, so we could kinda/sorta get around to those sooner or later, but when news becomes old it ceases to be news at all. The problem actually only gets ''worse'' day by day. :/
:If anyone out there has great brainstorming on how to achieve that goal or get even 1% of the way to it, I'm all ears. Unfortunately, I've chimed in on these conversations many times over the past decade and the problem persists. The only reasonable ideas that I have ever come up with are 1.) having journalism students at universities publish here and 2.) copy news from appropriately-licensed venues. In the past, the community has more-or-less rejected the latter. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (&lt;span style=&quot;color:grey&quot;&gt;ko'''a'''vf&lt;/span&gt;)]]&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯&lt;/span&gt; 00:06, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
:I've written a proposal at water cooler, the idea is to write shorter stories to get them out more quickly. Can do without flagged revs if needed but i'd like to keep it on to prevent spammers from getting into news feed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:03, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
::(Note that the idea was tested and worked; however needs at least one author and at least one reviewer, i.e. two persons at minimum, so @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] and @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], you guys are welcome to write a short story once a week in a hope the other reviewer would get it reviewed quickly. Check latest feed for examples.) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:05, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
:::For every article a reviewer writes, at least two reviewers' time is consumed. If we think about a reviewer's time being the ability to do work, i.e., publish a story, and one reviewer 'unit' can be spent on any given article to ''either'' write/expand it ''or'' review it, then any time reviewer units are scarce for the project, reviewer units (I think) should be used to review/coach, not to write/expand. 

:::And I consider myself 1/2 or .5 of a reviewer unit. Reviews take me more time as I learn how to review and publish effectively, accurately, etc. It will also consume another reviewer to double-check my work and possibly issue corrections if the work can't be checked within 24 hours (as has happened).

:::I believe this is an 'all hands on deck' situation for both reviewers and admins. I'm starting to wonder if the more established or senior reviewers and admins are like the proverbial frogs in boiling water, unaware of how the environment is changing around them. It seems they might be thinking, 'It's always been like this, nothing has collapsed yet, so what's the big deal?'

:::I went to the front page of en.Wikipedia today and there is a section titled &quot;In The News.&quot; None of the links in that section point to en.WN. None of the linked articles have 'sister links' to en.WN articles. We're already effectively replaced. 

:::{{tq|I don't want to be dour, but the situation is dire...but we should be realistic about how Wikinews is basically irrelevant to the online news landscape and is easily the weakest of all our sister projects.}} I agree with [[User:Koavf|Justin's]] assessment and I think the only way we change the situation is 1. more active reviewers and 2. some sort of updated (faster/easier/more-efficient) way of reviewing. We need the first in order to accomplish the second. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 00:53, 20 October 2024 (UTC) 
::::Replied at the 'assistance' water cooler page. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:19, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

:Global sysops isn't needed now i believe. Mon to Fri i'm helping when there's not a class. I'm sure we can find a couple more volunteers if my proposed model continues. See also '''[[Wikinews:Water_cooler/assistance#Mailing_lists|more details...]]'''. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:08, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

== 'Wikidata item' link is moving, finally. ==

Hello everyone, I previously wrote on the 27th September to advise that the ''Wikidata item'' sitelink will change places in the sidebar menu, moving from the '''General''' section into the '''In Other Projects''' section. The scheduled rollout date of 04.10.2024 was delayed due to a necessary request for Mobile/MinervaNeue skin. I am happy to inform that the global rollout can now proceed and will occur later today, 22.10.2024 at 15:00 UTC-2. [[m:Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link|Please let us know]] if you notice any problems or bugs after this change. There should be no need for null-edits or purging cache for the changes to occur. Kind regards, -[[m:User:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)|Danny Benjafield (WMDE)]] 11:29, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
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== Date categories ==

How are the dates categories created for published articles? Is it a manual process done each month? —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 16:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

:Stories (always?) begin with {{tl|date}} and the first parameter has the date, adding the category. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (&lt;span style=&quot;color:grey&quot;&gt;ko'''a'''vf&lt;/span&gt;)]]&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯&lt;/span&gt; 18:21, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
::I'm referring to categories such as this one: [[:Category:November 4, 2024]]. These categories are automatically added to published articles by EasyPeerReview. I'm hoping there is a tool that create the categories rather than requiring each date cat to be created manually. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 18:51, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
:::Oooooooooooooooh, sorry. Humans manually create them, but in principle, a bot could. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (&lt;span style=&quot;color:grey&quot;&gt;ko'''a'''vf&lt;/span&gt;)]]&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯&lt;/span&gt; 18:53, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</text>
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== Expand the abandoned template ==

I've edited it to include time of last edit to article and article talk (as i check this info manually each time to ensure the article was not un-abandoned) and wanted to also add time when the abandoned template was added to article but this one got stuck as all it does is show five tildas. Please see my edited version at {{tl|Gryllida-Abandoned‎}} and merge these changes into {{tl|abandoned}} if possible (or make your own copy and then i can merge for you). Thanks in advance. [[File:Smiley.svg|20px]] [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:05, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

== Can and should en.Wikinews be revitalized ==

I believe the writing is on the wall with the Sibling Project Lifecycle, as [[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]] initially indicated [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous/archives/2024/May#Feedback_invited_on_Procedure_for_Sibling_Project_Lifecycle|here]]. 

Today I also found that Flagged Revisions, the extension that underpins our ability to protect Published articles is no longer supported and is considered &quot;clunky, complex and not recommended for production use.&quot;[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs], [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185664] For a sense of what kind of support we might get if there is a problem with using 'clunky' and unsupported software, read [[w:User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_247#The_Wikimedia_Foundation_broke_Russian_Wikinews_again|this old WP thread]].

We have had a years-long struggle with maintaining an adequate number of active reviewers and have a seriously hard time with regular maintenance such as updating our generations-old copyright license.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy#Update_of_license]

We have recently permitted global sysops to assist with everyday admin tasks because we don't have enough active admins to help keep up with the basic work of deleting vandalism.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy/archives/2024/June#Opt_in_global_sysops?]

More often wn.WN is getting essentially scooped by en.WP on news stories. The latest example is [[w:Killing of Yahya Sinwar|Killing of Yahya Sinwar]]. When viewed or considered as if one wants to shutter en.WN, and if we discount the advantage of peer review (which arguably WP has), there is no real advantage of en.WN publishing our article in addition to the coverage that en.WP already has on that event. WP has much better reach as far as readership, the platform is better-maintained, its impact on the Internet-at-large far exceeds en.WN, and the WP community is highly active.

en.WN by contrast is 1) not highly active, 2) does not significantly impact the wider Internet infrastructure or other wiki projects, 3) lacks the resources necessary to sustainably execute the project's mission, and 4) has a strong external project to merge with; WP. These are four of the six criteria to consider for closing projects.[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Procedure_for_Sibling_Project_Lifecycle/revised#Closing_projects,_including_adoption,_merging,_etc.]

I personally would like to see this project revitalized and I'm all-in however I can help. We need more urgency and organization from more reviewers and admin to get things turned around and pump some new life into the project. That's not to say only reviewers and admin are needed, but we certainly can't move forward without them.  

If you agree and have ideas, please share them here. If you disagree and think I'm making a mountain out of a mole hill, please let me know. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 19:10, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

:Should? Yes. Can? Jury's out.
:If you look at community discussions for the past 12 years or so, there are routine discussions about how Wikinews is dying and we need to do &lt;var&gt;x&lt;/var&gt; to save it. In reality, when Wikinews was founded, that was the golden age of citizen journalists and semi-professional bloggers, before a lot of that got gobbled up by social media sites (c. 2003 to 2010). I think there's still a place for Wikinews and I hope it's successful, but I'm not very optimistic about any legitimate course for Wikinews to be a place where someone could read the homepage and click thru on a number of articles to be reasonably informed about current affairs, which is the basic measure of whether or not a general interest news site is successful. And since ostensibly, Wikinews has no ''particular'' geographic scope (unlike a local newspaper) or point of view (like a political party-run paper or a government propaganda outlet) or limitation on topics (unlike specialist publications), the reasonable amount of stories published on Wikinews to meet its mandate would be several hundred a day at a minimum and ideal maybe... 20,000? about local news, sports, scientific findings, interviews, human interest stories, photojournalism, exposes, investigative journalism, and so on. Wikinews is really orders of magnitude away from where it ''should'' be and it would require thousands and thousands of active editors to even approach that, but even if we were just narrowly trying to cover the dozen or so biggest stories of the day, plus some original reporting, that's already a struggle here.
:I don't want to be dour, but the situation is dire and I will continue to contribute original reporting to Wikinews and do occasional maintenance, but we should be realistic about how Wikinews is basically irrelevant to the online news landscape and is easily the weakest of all our sister projects. Even other small projects like [[:b:]] or [[:v:]] could in principle &quot;catch up&quot; to where they need to be, because it's not like there is an urgent need for a few hundred new textbooks a day, so we could kinda/sorta get around to those sooner or later, but when news becomes old it ceases to be news at all. The problem actually only gets ''worse'' day by day. :/
:If anyone out there has great brainstorming on how to achieve that goal or get even 1% of the way to it, I'm all ears. Unfortunately, I've chimed in on these conversations many times over the past decade and the problem persists. The only reasonable ideas that I have ever come up with are 1.) having journalism students at universities publish here and 2.) copy news from appropriately-licensed venues. In the past, the community has more-or-less rejected the latter. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (&lt;span style=&quot;color:grey&quot;&gt;ko'''a'''vf&lt;/span&gt;)]]&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯&lt;/span&gt; 00:06, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
:I've written a proposal at water cooler, the idea is to write shorter stories to get them out more quickly. Can do without flagged revs if needed but i'd like to keep it on to prevent spammers from getting into news feed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:03, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
::(Note that the idea was tested and worked; however needs at least one author and at least one reviewer, i.e. two persons at minimum, so @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] and @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], you guys are welcome to write a short story once a week in a hope the other reviewer would get it reviewed quickly. Check latest feed for examples.) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:05, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
:::For every article a reviewer writes, at least two reviewers' time is consumed. If we think about a reviewer's time being the ability to do work, i.e., publish a story, and one reviewer 'unit' can be spent on any given article to ''either'' write/expand it ''or'' review it, then any time reviewer units are scarce for the project, reviewer units (I think) should be used to review/coach, not to write/expand. 

:::And I consider myself 1/2 or .5 of a reviewer unit. Reviews take me more time as I learn how to review and publish effectively, accurately, etc. It will also consume another reviewer to double-check my work and possibly issue corrections if the work can't be checked within 24 hours (as has happened).

:::I believe this is an 'all hands on deck' situation for both reviewers and admins. I'm starting to wonder if the more established or senior reviewers and admins are like the proverbial frogs in boiling water, unaware of how the environment is changing around them. It seems they might be thinking, 'It's always been like this, nothing has collapsed yet, so what's the big deal?'

:::I went to the front page of en.Wikipedia today and there is a section titled &quot;In The News.&quot; None of the links in that section point to en.WN. None of the linked articles have 'sister links' to en.WN articles. We're already effectively replaced. 

:::{{tq|I don't want to be dour, but the situation is dire...but we should be realistic about how Wikinews is basically irrelevant to the online news landscape and is easily the weakest of all our sister projects.}} I agree with [[User:Koavf|Justin's]] assessment and I think the only way we change the situation is 1. more active reviewers and 2. some sort of updated (faster/easier/more-efficient) way of reviewing. We need the first in order to accomplish the second. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 00:53, 20 October 2024 (UTC) 
::::Replied at the 'assistance' water cooler page. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:19, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

:Global sysops isn't needed now i believe. Mon to Fri i'm helping when there's not a class. I'm sure we can find a couple more volunteers if my proposed model continues. See also '''[[Wikinews:Water_cooler/assistance#Mailing_lists|more details...]]'''. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:08, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

== 'Wikidata item' link is moving, finally. ==

Hello everyone, I previously wrote on the 27th September to advise that the ''Wikidata item'' sitelink will change places in the sidebar menu, moving from the '''General''' section into the '''In Other Projects''' section. The scheduled rollout date of 04.10.2024 was delayed due to a necessary request for Mobile/MinervaNeue skin. I am happy to inform that the global rollout can now proceed and will occur later today, 22.10.2024 at 15:00 UTC-2. [[m:Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link|Please let us know]] if you notice any problems or bugs after this change. There should be no need for null-edits or purging cache for the changes to occur. Kind regards, -[[m:User:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)|Danny Benjafield (WMDE)]] 11:29, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
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== Date categories ==

How are the dates categories created for published articles? Is it a manual process done each month? —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 16:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

:Stories (always?) begin with {{tl|date}} and the first parameter has the date, adding the category. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (&lt;span style=&quot;color:grey&quot;&gt;ko'''a'''vf&lt;/span&gt;)]]&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯&lt;/span&gt; 18:21, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
::I'm referring to categories such as this one: [[:Category:November 4, 2024]]. These categories are automatically added to published articles by EasyPeerReview. I'm hoping there is a tool that create the categories rather than requiring each date cat to be created manually. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 18:51, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
:::Oooooooooooooooh, sorry. Humans manually create them, but in principle, a bot could. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (&lt;span style=&quot;color:grey&quot;&gt;ko'''a'''vf&lt;/span&gt;)]]&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯&lt;/span&gt; 18:53, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
:::I [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals#Script for quickly creating date categories.|previously]] proposed [[User:Asked42/QuickCat|a script]] that might be helpful. [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 06:27, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</text>
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== [[Press union revealed largest ‘harassment’ campaign against Hong Kong journalists]] ==

This is not assistance request, more like a note about after this interesting story went stale. Seemed '''important on local scale'''. (and good to expose journalism related events at Wikinews) 

* There was a few days delay with initial report
* Further delay with splitting into two stories, about Wikimedia Foundation actions and about HKJA announcement.
* Then about HKJA announcement which was considered a less controversial (wrt relevance) story to review, there were no clarify of whether npov was met. There were multiple sources but all on Hong Kong side telling stories of how various journalists were abused.

Issues with how it was worded/phrased not neutrally remain.

I am trying to understand what prevented someone from rewriting this story and then another person publishing it. More to be written here in a bit. @[[User:Kitabc12345|Kitabc12345]] @[[User:Cypp0847|Cypp0847]] [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:02, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

:Hi @[[User:Kitabc12345|Kitabc12345]] &amp; @[[User:Cypp0847|Cypp0847]]
:I have re-read the article now trying to answer my question above.
:* Lack of precision of numbers. &quot;Dozens&quot;. Is this what the report said?
:* Lack of precision to &quot;what&quot;. &quot;Faced threats and intimidation&quot;. This happens ... a lot or a little ... everywhere (should not, but it does). Perhaps the truly focal event is &quot;faced increased abuse after a bill was passed by China&quot;. Then this timing needs to be clearly indicated and supported by specific nummbers in the first paragraph.
:* So if the first paragraph was like &quot;''HKJA reported a 300% increase of abuse directed at HK journalists since August 15, when the new XYZ bill was introduced by China, compared with orevious 10 years''&quot;, then it would read as a clearer description of the event. Or &quot;''For the first time in 10 years, abuse exceeded 5 cases a year, with 50 abuse reports in the last two weeks alone''&quot;. Or something. '''Quantitative'''.
:Hope it helps. I kept trying to figure out what was causing my concern for publishing and this is probably main cause.
:Has the union '''progressed anywhere''' with a campaign to reduce this abuse? This could be valid reason for a new story, which could reuse a part of the existing story for background.
:Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:36, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
::# &quot;Dozens&quot; is the term used by HKJA and the media. The statement said families and employees of 15 journalists received threatening letters, along with neighbours and landlords of 8 journalists. Additionally at least 36 journalists were targeted online, while 3 were searched when entering Hong Kong by the customs. Given these information, by calculation we expect to have more than 51 individuals affected, but it's difficult to derive an accurate number because some cases might be overlapping.
::# Perhaps precise examples of threats and intimidation would suffice. I agree that the timing is also relatable.
::# There were unfortunately no statistics provided by the union in relation to the abuse cases in the past.
::# The government has commented but only urging the union to report them to the police for investigation. There are limited follow-up discussions ongoing partly because, in my opinion, the political situation in the city.
::Thanks Gryllida again for the comments, and Kit for the contributions on this report. [[User:Cypp0847|Cypp0847]] ([[User talk:Cypp0847|talk]]) 12:55, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
:::I think it could be good cause for interview to the union asking for more quantitative information and how are they going to deal with it. Would you agree? If so, would you like to write a list of questions to the union? I'd be happy to have a look at the questions and share my feedback. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:01, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
::::Kit has sent the proposed questions to you, fyr. [[User:Cypp0847|Cypp0847]] ([[User talk:Cypp0847|talk]]) 05:56, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

== Tech News: 2024-41 ==

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'''Weekly highlight'''
* Communities can now request installation of [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Moderator Tools/Automoderator|Automoderator]] on their wiki. Automoderator is an automated anti-vandalism tool that reverts bad edits based on scores from the new &quot;Revert Risk&quot; machine learning model. You can [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:AutoModerator/Deploying|read details about the necessary steps]] for installation and configuration. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T336934]

'''Updates for editors'''
* Translators in wikis where [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Content translation/Section translation#Try the tool|the mobile experience of Content Translation is available]], can now customize their articles suggestion list from 41 filtering options when using the tool. This topic-based article suggestion feature makes it easy for translators to self-discover relevant articles based on their area of interest and translate them. You can [https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ContentTranslation&amp;active-list=suggestions try it with your mobile device]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T368422]
* View all {{formatnum:12}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:12|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]].

'''Updates for technical contributors'''
* It is now possible for &lt;bdi lang=&quot;zxx&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;syntaxhighlight&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/bdi&gt; code blocks to offer readers a &quot;Copy&quot; button if the &lt;bdi lang=&quot;zxx&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;copy=1&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/bdi&gt; attribute is [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:SyntaxHighlight#copy|set on the tag]]. Thanks to SD0001 for these improvements. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40932]
* Customized copyright footer messages on all wikis will be updated. The new versions will use wikitext markup instead of requiring editing raw HTML. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T375789]
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Advanced item]] Later this month, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|temporary accounts]] will be rolled out on several pilot wikis. The final list of the wikis will be published in the second half of the month. If you maintain any tools, bots, or gadgets on [[phab:T376499|these 11 wikis]], and your software is using data about IP addresses or is available for logged-out users, please check if it needs to be updated to work with temporary accounts. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers|Guidance on how to update the code is available]].
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Advanced item]] Rate limiting has been enabled for the code review tools [[Wikitech:Gerrit|Gerrit]] and [[Wikitech:GitLab|GitLab]] to address ongoing issues caused by malicious traffic and scraping. Clients that open too many concurrent connections will be restricted for a few minutes. This rate limiting is managed through [[Wikitech:nftables|nftables]] firewall rules. For more details, see Wikitech's pages on [[Wikitech:Firewall#Throttling with nftables|Firewall]], [[Wikitech:GitLab/Abuse and rate limiting|GitLab limits]] and [[Wikitech:Gerrit/Operations#Throttling IPs|Gerrit operations]].
* Five new wikis have been created: 
** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikipedia}} in [[d:Q49224|Komering]] ([[w:kge:|&lt;code&gt;w:kge:&lt;/code&gt;]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T374813]
** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikipedia}} in [[d:Q36096|Mooré]] ([[m:mos:|&lt;code&gt;m:mos:&lt;/code&gt;]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T374641]
** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wiktionary}} in [[d:Q36213|Madurese]] ([[wikt:mad:|&lt;code&gt;wikt:mad:&lt;/code&gt;]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T374968]
** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikiquote}} in [[d:Q2501174|Gorontalo]] ([[q:gor:|&lt;code&gt;q:gor:&lt;/code&gt;]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T375088]
** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikinews}} in [[d:Q56482|Shan]] ([[n:shn:|&lt;code&gt;n:shn:&lt;/code&gt;]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T375430]

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== Preliminary results of the 2024 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees elections ==

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Hello all,

Thank you to everyone who participated in the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2024|2024 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election]]. Close to 6000 community members from more than 180 wiki projects have voted.

The following four candidates were the most voted:

# [[User:Kritzolina|Christel Steigenberger]]
# [[User:Nadzik|Maciej Artur Nadzikiewicz]]
# [[User:Victoria|Victoria Doronina]]
# [[User:Laurentius|Lorenzo Losa]]

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[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2024/Results|Learn more about the results on Meta-Wiki.]]

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'''Updates for editors'''
* The Structured Discussion extension (also known as Flow) is starting to be removed. This extension is unmaintained and causes issues. It will be replaced by [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:DiscussionTools|DiscussionTools]], which is used on any regular talk page. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Structured Discussions/Deprecation#Deprecation timeline|A first set of wikis]] are being contacted. These wikis are invited to stop using Flow, and to move all Flow boards to sub-pages, as archives. At these wikis, a script will move all Flow pages that aren't a sub-page to a sub-page automatically, starting on 22 October 2024. On 28 October 2024, all Flow boards at these wikis will be set in read-only mode. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Structured_Discussions/Deprecation][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T370722]
* WMF's Search Platform team is working on making it easier for readers to perform text searches in their language. A [[phab:T332342|change last week]] on over 30 languages makes it easier to find words with accents and other diacritics. This applies to both full-text search and to types of advanced search such as the &lt;bdi lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;''hastemplate''&lt;/bdi&gt; and &lt;bdi lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;''incategory''&lt;/bdi&gt; keywords. More technical details (including a few other minor search upgrades) are available. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:TJones_%28WMF%29/Notes/Language_Analyzer_Harmonization_Notes#ASCII-folding/ICU-folding_%28T332342%29]
* View all {{formatnum:20}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:20|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Edit check|EditCheck]] was installed at Russian Wikipedia, and fixes were made for some missing user interface styles.

'''Updates for technical contributors'''
* Editors who use the Toolforge tool [[toolforge:copyvios|Earwig's Copyright Violation Detector]] will now be required to log in with their Wikimedia account before running checks using the &quot;search engine&quot; option. This change is needed to help prevent external bots from misusing the system. Thanks to Chlod for these improvements. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:New_pages_patrol/Reviewers#Authentication_is_now_required_for_search_engine_checks_on_Earwig's_Copyvio_Tool]
* [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Phabricator|Phabricator]] users can create tickets and add comments on existing tickets via Email again. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Phabricator/Help#Using email|Sending email to Phabricator]] has been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T356077]
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Advanced item]] Some HTML elements in the interface are now wrapped with a &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;bdi&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt; element, to make our HTML output more aligned with Web standards. More changes like this will be coming in future weeks. This change might break some tools that rely on the previous HTML structure of the interface. Note that relying on the HTML structure of the interface is [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Stable interface policy/Frontend#What is not stable?|not recommended]] and might break at any time. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T375975]

'''In depth'''
* The latest monthly [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki Product Insights/Reports/September 2024|MediaWiki Product Insights newsletter]] is available. This edition includes: updates on Wikimedia's authentication system, research to simplify feature development in the MediaWiki platform, updates on Parser Unification and MathML rollout, and more.
* The latest quarterly [[mw:Technical Community Newsletter/2024/October|Technical Community Newsletter]] is now available. This edition include: research about improving topic suggestions related to countries, improvements to PHPUnit tests, and more.

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== Seeking volunteers to join several of the movement’s committees ==

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Each year, typically from October through December, several of the movement’s committees seek new volunteers. 

Read more about the committees on their Meta-wiki pages:
* [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Affiliations_Committee|Affiliations Committee (AffCom)]]
* [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Ombuds_commission|Ombuds commission (OC)]]
* [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation/Legal/Community Resilience and Sustainability/Trust and Safety/Case Review Committee|Case Review Committee (CRC)]]

Applications for the committees open on 16 October 2024. Applications for the Affiliations Committee close on 18 November 2024, and applications for the Ombuds commission and the Case Review Committee close on 2 December 2024. Learn how to apply by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation/Legal/Committee_appointments|visiting the appointment page on Meta-wiki]]. Post to the talk page or email [mailto:cst@wikimedia.org cst@wikimedia.org] with any questions you may have.

For the Committee Support team,
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:Hi @[[User:Keegan (WMF)|Keegan (WMF)]] is it competitive? i.e. if i apply for affcom. i have a little experience on two wikis and none of in person outreach. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 17:25, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] I do not know for AffCom, but Ombuds have historically been pretty competitive (or they don't like me); I've applied for like the last three years of so and always failed. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 16:32, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

== Tech News: 2024-43 ==

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'''Weekly highlight'''
* The Mobile Apps team has released an [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/iOS/Navigation Refresh#Phase 1: Creating a user Profile Menu (T373714)|update]] to the iOS app's navigation, and it is now available in the latest App store version. The team added a new Profile menu that allows for easy access to editor features like Notifications and Watchlist from the Article view, and brings the &quot;Donate&quot; button into a more accessible place for users who are reading an article. This is the first phase of a larger planned [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/iOS/Navigation Refresh|navigation refresh]] to help the iOS app transition from a primarily reader-focused app, to an app that fully supports reading and editing. The Wikimedia Foundation has added more editing features and support for on-wiki communication based on volunteer requests in recent years.
[[File:IOS App Navigation refresh first phase 05.png|thumb|iOS Wikipedia App's profile menu and contents]]

'''Updates for editors'''
* Wikipedia readers can now download a browser extension to experiment with some early ideas on potential features that recommend articles for further reading, automatically summarize articles, and improve search functionality. For more details and to stay updated, check out the Web team's [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web/Content Discovery Experiments|Content Discovery Experiments page]] and [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Newsletter:Web team's projects|subscribe to their newsletter]].
* Later this month, logged-out editors of [[phab:T376499|these 12 wikis]] will start to have [[mw:Special:Mylanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|temporary accounts]] created. The list may slightly change - some wikis may be removed but none will be added. Temporary account is a new [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/User account types|type of user account]]. It enhances the logged-out editors' privacy and makes it easier for community members to communicate with them. If you maintain any tools, bots, or gadgets on these 12 wikis, and your software is using data about IP addresses or is available for logged-out users, please check if it needs to be updated to work with temporary accounts. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers|Guidance on how to update the code is available]]. Read more about the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/Updates|deployment plan across all wikis]].
* View all {{formatnum:33}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:33|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the [[w:nr:Main Page|South Ndebele]], [[w:rsk:Главни бок|Pannonian Rusyn]], [[w:ann:Uwu|Obolo]], [[w:iba:Lambar Keterubah|Iban]] and [[w:tdd:ᥞᥨᥝᥴ ᥘᥣᥲ ᥖᥥᥰ|Tai Nüa]] Wikipedia languages were created last week. [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q36785][https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q35660][https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q36614][https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q33424][https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q36556]
* It is now possible to create functions on Wikifunctions using Wikidata lexemes, through the new [[f:Z6005|Wikidata lexeme type]] launched last week. When you go to one of these functions, the user interface provides a lexeme selector that helps you pick a lexeme from Wikidata that matches the word you type. After hitting run, your selected lexeme is retrieved from Wikidata, transformed into a Wikidata lexeme type, and passed into the selected function. Read more about this in [[f:Special:MyLanguage/Wikifunctions:Status updates/2024-10-17#Function of the Week: select representation from lexeme|the latest Wikifunctions newsletter]].

'''Updates for technical contributors'''
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Advanced item]] Users of the Wikimedia sites can now format dates more easily in different languages with the new &lt;code dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;{{[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions##timef|#timef]]:…}}&lt;/code&gt; parser function. For example, &lt;code dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{#timef:now|date|en}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt; will show as &quot;&lt;bdi lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;{{#timef:now|date|en}}&lt;/bdi&gt;&quot;. Previously, &lt;code dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{#time:…}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt; could be used to format dates, but this required knowledge of the order of the time and date components and their intervening punctuation. &lt;code dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;#timef&lt;/code&gt; (or &lt;code dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;#timefl&lt;/code&gt; for local time) provides access to the standard date formats that MediaWiki uses in its user interface. This may help to simplify some templates on multi-lingual wikis like Commons and Meta. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T223772][https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions##timef]
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Advanced item]] Commons and Meta users can now efficiently [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Magic words#Localization|retrieve the user's language]] using &lt;code dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{USERLANGUAGE}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt; instead of using &lt;code dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{int:lang}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T4085]
* The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council|Product and Tech Advisory Council]] (PTAC) now has its pilot members with representation across Africa, Asia, Europe, North America and South America. They will work to address the [[Special:MyLanguage/Movement Strategy/Initiatives/Technology Council|Movement Strategy's Technology Council]] initiative of having a co-defined and more resilient technological platform. [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Strategy/Initiatives/Technology_Council]

'''In depth'''
* The latest quarterly [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Growth/Newsletters/32|Growth newsletter]] is available. It includes: an upcoming Newcomer Homepage Community Updates module, new Community Configuration options, and details on new projects.
* The Wikimedia Foundation is [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Security Team#CNA Partnership|now an official partner of the CVE program]], which is an international effort to catalog publicly disclosed cybersecurity vulnerabilities. This partnership will allow the Security Team to instantly publish [[w:en:Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures|common vulnerabilities and exposures]] (CVE) records that are affecting MediaWiki core, extensions, and skins, along with any other code the Foundation is a steward of.
* The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist|Community Wishlist]] is now [[m:Community Wishlist/Updates#October 16, 2024: Conversations Made Easier: Machine-Translated Wishes Are Here!|testing machine translations]] for Wishlist content. Volunteers can now read machine-translated versions of wishes and dive into discussions even before translators arrive to translate content.

'''Meetings and events'''
* 24 October - Wiki Education Speaker Series Webinar - [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/N4XTB4G55BUY3M3PNGUAKQWJ7A4UOPAK/ Open Source Tech: Building the Wiki Education Dashboard], featuring Wikimedia interns and a Web developer in the panel.
* 20–22 December 2024 - [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Indic Wikimedia Hackathon Bhubaneswar 2024|Indic Wikimedia Hackathon Bhubaneswar 2024]] in Odisha, India. A hackathon for community members, including developers, designers and content editors, to build technical solutions that improve contributors' experiences.

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== Tech News: 2024-44 ==

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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2024/44|Translations]] are available.

'''Updates for editors'''
* Later in November, the Charts extension will be deployed to the test wikis in order to help identify and fix any issue. A security review is underway to then enable deployment to pilot wikis for broader testing. You can read [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart/Project/Updates#October 2024: Working towards production deployment|the October project update]] and see the [https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Charts latest documentation and examples on Beta Wikipedia].
* View all {{formatnum:32}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:32|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, [[w:en:PediaPress|Pediapress.com]], an external service that creates books from Wikipedia, can now use [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Maps|Wikimedia Maps]] to include existing pre-rendered infobox map images in their printed books on Wikipedia. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T375761]

'''Updates for technical contributors'''
* Wikis can use [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:GuidedTour|the Guided Tour extension]] to help newcomers understand how to edit. The Guided Tours extension now works with [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Dark mode|dark mode]]. Guided Tour maintainers can check their tours to see that nothing looks odd. They can also set &lt;code&gt;emitTransitionOnStep&lt;/code&gt; to &lt;code&gt;true&lt;/code&gt; to fix an old bug. They can use the new flag &lt;code&gt;allowAutomaticBack&lt;/code&gt; to avoid back-buttons they don't want. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73927#10241528]
*  Administrators in the Wikimedia projects who use the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:Nuke|Nuke Extension]] will notice that mass deletions done with this tool have the &quot;Nuke&quot; tag. This change will make reviewing and analyzing deletions performed with the tool easier. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T366068]

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== Tech News: 2024-45 ==

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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2024/45|Translations]] are available.

'''Updates for editors'''
* Stewards can now make [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Global blocks|global account blocks]] cause global [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Autoblock|autoblocks]]. This will assist stewards in preventing abuse from users who have been globally blocked. This includes preventing globally blocked temporary accounts from exiting their session or switching browsers to make subsequent edits for 24 hours. Previously, temporary accounts could exit their current session or switch browsers to continue editing. This is an anti-abuse tool improvement for the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|Temporary Accounts]] project. You can read more about the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/Updates|progress on key features for temporary accounts]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T368949]
* Wikis that have the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/CampaignEvents/Deployment status|CampaignEvents extension enabled]] can now use the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Campaigns/Foundation Product Team/Event list#October 29, 2024: Collaboration List launched|Collaboration List]] feature. This list provides a new, easy way for contributors to learn about WikiProjects on their wikis. Thanks to the Campaign team for this work that is part of [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2024-2025/Product %26 Technology OKRs#WE KRs|the 2024/25 annual plan]]. If you are interested in bringing the CampaignEvents extension to your wiki, you can [[m:Special:MyLanguage/CampaignEvents/Deployment status#How to Request the CampaignEvents Extension for your wiki|follow these steps]] or you can reach out to User:Udehb-WMF for help.
* The text color for red links will be slightly changed later this week to improve their contrast in light mode. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T370446]
* View all {{formatnum:32}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:32|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, on multilingual wikis, users [[phab:T216368|can now]] hide translations from the WhatLinksHere special page.

'''Updates for technical contributors'''
* XML [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Data dumps|data dumps]] have been temporarily paused whilst a bug is investigated. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/xmldatadumps-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/BXWJDPO5QI2QMBCY7HO36ELDCRO6HRM4/]

'''In depth'''
* Temporary Accounts have been deployed to six wikis; thanks to the Trust and Safety Product team for [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|this work]], you can read about [[phab:T340001|the deployment plans]]. Beginning next week, Temporary Accounts will also be enabled on [[phab:T378336|seven other projects]]. If you are active on these wikis and need help migrating your tools, please reach out to [[m:User:Udehb-WMF|User:Udehb-WMF]] for assistance.
*  The latest quarterly [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Language and Product Localization/Newsletter/2024/October|Language and Internationalization newsletter]] is available.  It includes: New languages supported in translatewiki or in MediaWiki; New keyboard input methods for some languages; details about recent and upcoming meetings, and more.

'''Meetings and events'''
* [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki Users and Developers Conference Fall 2024|MediaWiki Users and Developers Conference Fall 2024]] is happening in Vienna, Austria and online from 4 to 6 November 2024. The conference will feature discussions around the usage of MediaWiki software by and within companies in different industries and will inspire and onboard new users.

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== Corrections ==

Hi. You probably saw the debacle with the pager explosions story that warranted a correction. I found one of the problems there &amp;mdash; inaccuracy in dates &amp;mdash; to also be present in the article on Ryan Routh's superseding indictment. In both cases, it seems likely you missed converting relative to cardinal dates. So please be more careful about this immediately pre-publication in the future. Both were also missing some important cats; the Tips on reviewing articles checklist prompts the reviewer on this. If you add a cat for a country, you have to add the relevant news region cat(s) as well; so [[:Category:Hungary]] needs to be accompanied by [[:Category:Europe]].

I have a habit of writing headlines that are too long, but if I were you, I would've added altered the headline to something a bit more unique (e.g. &quot;golf course attempted assassination&quot;). [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 23:39, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
:Yes, I will pay closer attention to date conversions. I should have caught that. 

:That's one aspect that the pre-review process can't include so I'm unfortunately not in the habit of checking it. This is a good reason to have an active and seasoned reviewer on hand to address these things either before hand or within the 24-hour grace period immediately afterwords—so corrections aren't necessary. I'm not saying it was anyone else's fault, just that it would help new reviewers if we had some sort of a transition/training period for them.

:Regarding the requirement for two geographical categories, I don't see that in [[Wikinews:Tips on reviewing articles]] or [[Wikinews:Reviewing articles]]. Tips says &quot;At least one geographical category...&quot; Am I missing something?

:Also, how do you update the five lead templates? Do you normally do it manually—one at a time—or is there a widget/gadget/javascript page you use to move them? 

:Thanks as always for the help. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 15:47, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
::&quot;it would help new reviewers if we had some sort of a transition/training period for them&quot;: Yeah, absolutely. I think it could've helped me a lot when I was new too. In the past, experienced reviewers would meet on IRC once or twice with a reviewer candidate or prospective candidate to co-review an article, perhaps with the newbie demonstrating how they would review the article, making edits on-wiki; the experienced reviewer could offer corrections and evaluate their readiness.
::That minimum requirement is accurate, although I can't think of a situation where a country cat wouldn't be needed. All I'm saying is when you do use a cat on an article, its parent cats need to be used as well.
::Oh, yeah, [[Wikinews:Make lead]] is the JS tool. I tend to use it except when I need to use the edit summary to explain the rationale for my editing or switching around leads others put on the Main Page. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 21:49, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

== Please review now ==

Hi Michael.C.Wright

I've written these two news articles:

* [[New Zealand Navy ship HMNZS Manawanui capsizes one nautical mile from shore]] (event October 9 Saturday)
* [[Rio Negro tributary of the Amazon River experiences lowest water level on record]] (event this Friday)

Please, review them now. I purposedfully wrote them short and as few sources as possible.

If something is not verifiable, please take it out or leave a note.

Many thanks.

Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 04:40, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

:Edit: the second story was published by RockerballAustralia (thanks!). The first one is still in queue. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:49, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
:Queue: *3* in total: Monday (1), Tuesday (2). It is currently *Wednesday*. One breaking story (hurricane). 🥺🥺🥺 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:24, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
::I will have less time to dedicate to reviewing this month. I will also have at least two, maybe more periods of no access. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 13:24, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

== Notes about reviewing ==

Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]

I am very happy to see you around helping with the reviews following your successful application for Reviewer. I believe you are very good at wikification (a point I am not doing well) and at reading the sources to verify the information. This is very good. For future I would suggest to increase your &quot;sense of urgency&quot; by pinging the article authors on the article talk page to attract their attention. This is probably something that the software should do automatically. I will inquire at the technical water cooler about this shortly.

I am wondering what other reviewers would suggest to you (@[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]]? @[[User:Acagastya|Acagastya]]? @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]]? Last 3 active reviewers I believe) for feedback.

Have a good day. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:20, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

:Thanks for posting this. Hopefully others will respond. 
:I can work at creating more of a sense of urgency. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 13:34, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

== Yes please update leads ==

Hi Michael.C.Wright

When I am editing from mobile or among noisy environment I don't touch the leads -- easy to mess up. Please continue to update it when you have a moment. There was no decision against it. I will try to do it also as often as I can.

Thank you. :-)

Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:45, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

:Will do... —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 13:24, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

== live chat ==

Hi,

I would like to provide you with access to my [[:w:Quassel Core]] so that you can access IRC continuously. You will need to '''install a 'Quassel Client'''' (no Core) from the http://www.quassel-irc.org web site. When this is done, and when you connect to IRC next time, please '''send me a private message''' to nick 'gry' while logged in; I will provide you the login details.

I consider this relatively urgent as new articles may die when people work on them asynchronously.

Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:31, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

:Correction: the url is [[:w:Quassel IRC]]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:32, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

== Headline verb tense tip ==

Hi Michael C. Wright

Tip: news headlines are in present tense. 

E.g. [[Bruce Lehrmann judge said to have no links to published book of judgement]]

FYI. I don't think any action or correction is required on this page (unless it's less than 24 hours and you dig up a policy that allows change).

Regards, [[File:Smiley.svg|20px]] [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:22, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

:Agreed. I wanted to change the headline because Lehrmann is not the main focus and using his name to identify the judge could be misleading/confusing. I didn't, but I should have. 
:It's been over 24 hours since it was published, so we're stuck with it, unfortunately. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 13:41, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

== resubmitted ==

I've resubmitted story about Qantas for your review. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:24, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

== Can you review ==

Can you review my UK Tory leader page? [[User:CSMention269|CSM.in]] ([[User talk:CSMention269|talk]]) 14:44, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

:I may not have time today to review any articles but I'll see what I can do. Fingers crossed. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 15:11, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</text>
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== User page deletion ==

I have requested my user page on Wikinews be deleted. I am not requesting my user account here be deleted. I'm hoping the verbiage on the banner is incorrect. 

I have created a global user page with meta.[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Michael.C.Wright] I would like to use the one profile for all wiki sister projects. An example is my profile on commons: [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Michael.C.Wright User:Michael.C.Wright] is actually the global user page [[wikipedia:Help:Transclusion|transcluded]] to commons. 

Thank you!

[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User talk:Michael.C.Wright|talk]]) 14:42, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

:Well, it is impossible for technical reasons to delete an account, even for stewards/global sysops, so at worst the request would just be declined. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 14:44, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
::Okay. That sounds promising. If there are any questions about global accounts, here is the page on meta: [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_user_pages Global user pages].
::Thank you for the clarification. 
::[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User talk:Michael.C.Wright|talk]]) 14:58, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

== Awards ==

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&lt;br&gt; {{{1|{{{for|For getting your first article published!}}}}}}
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:Thank you [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] for the awards! [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User talk:Michael.C.Wright|talk]]) 15:30, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

== Category ==

You can create a [[:Category:Wikinews authors|Wikinewsie category]] for yourself to keep track of your articles, if you want, by the way. Also you can add the correct one of [[Wikinews:Contributing Reporter Awards|these]] to your user page, if you want. It's just for fun, really. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 16:14, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

:Thanks! Will do. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User talk:Michael.C.Wright|talk]]) 16:50, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

== Senate just voted for 2002 AUMF repeal ==

[https://apnews.com/article/senate-repeal-iraq-war-authorization-85be03d5aedc8a28459195160bfaad3c?utm_source=homepage&amp;utm_medium=TopNews&amp;utm_campaign=position_01 FYI]. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 17:36, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

:Yeah. I planned on writing something today. Thanks. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 13:35, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

== [[US appeals court upholds ruling lawyer for ex-President Trump must cooperate with federal investigation]] ==

This did go stale. I do want to say: please check the edit history and its &quot;diffs&quot; (click &quot;prev&quot; in the history) after each review (including on this article) to see what you can improve in the future. Addressing those things can significantly speed up review. There just wasn't the time to finish this. Reviewing often is, in my experience, actually much more labor-intensive than writing, which did surprise me. You write detailed articles with a lot of background, which I appreciate, and I don't intend to discourage that, but it is a fact they require more time to review (not necessarily a bad thing). [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 00:18, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

::Since it is stale and now needs Gatwicked, I don't plan on continuing work on that article unless another editor or reviewer see's benefit in me doing so. There will certainly be more news on that subject for us to cover in the future. 

::I do know my articles take more time to review and I am sympathetic to that fact. I actively seek recommendations from reviewers on ways to prepare an article for easier review. I've also [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/technical#Wikinews_editing_and_reviewing_template_feature_request|proposed technical changes]] that I think will benefit both authors and reviewers here.

::From my brief experience with Wikinews, the review process is one key hinderance to Wikinews being agile and able to produce timely, relevant articles. If we can figure out how to make that process easier and more efficient without reducing the thoroughness of the process, I believe we'd make progress. 

::Regarding the length of the articles I write; I read through the sources you linked at a recent [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Comments|discussion at the water cooler]], specifically other comments at the Meta page [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_English_Wikinews Proposals for closing projects/Closure of English Wikinews]. There are comments such as &quot;...a lot of these are very short&quot; and &quot;...none of them has any real depth.&quot; I ''generally'' agree with those comments. 

::A short Wikinews article that is not original reporting is more than likely, mostly a paraphrase of existing news. In those cases, it provides little value to Wikinews readers above what they'd get from the original news source. The value I try to bring is providing deeper background and synthesis — synthesis of sources to provide a richer background, not in arriving at new or unique conclusions. 

::I'm not a journalist and won't be doing much, if any original reporting. Therefore, the value I can bring is mainly articles with more depth and cohesion between articles, i.e., tracking news developments regarding AUMFs over the course of multiple articles. 

::I know you aren't trying to discourage longer articles. I'm offering here a bit of explanation into motive, in hopes of furthering the discussion around improving the writing and reviewing process because I do see that as a core hurdle hindering the number and depth of articles, ''generally speaking''.

::[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 15:31, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

== Specialty Coffee Expo ==

Did you ever end up getting to go to that? If you did and just haven't written it up yet, there's certainly still time per precedent for OR (and the rules are bent more often for OR than synthesis; looking back, the last OR pieces of comparable significance were from about 2014). 
BTW, I must have been pressed for time when I first saw what you wrote above. I just read it in full, and you clearly [[wikt:grok|grok]] the problems we face, and offer good solutions. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 21:17, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

:I did [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnYNnnPxInA&amp;list=PLCcuGXzqCcKBDA8TEInz-qOMwn-gPi6AS three on-camera interviews] but two of the three were quite coffee-centric and I didn't think that was a good angle for a general audience at wikinews. I thought about doing spot interviews of random attendees but ended up prioritizing other networking while there. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 
:[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 13:54, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
::It's understandable to a general audience and interesting (in my view); not as niche as many of the articles in [[:Category:Halloween]] (specifically, the Haunters Conventions). That could be a great article even with just minimal text introduction (depending on how much time you have to work on it). [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 15:51, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
::Sorry for butting in here. 
::Just wanted to say that I would find such an article of interest. I am saying this as a reader of Wikinews who knows coffee tastes good and that's about all I know, [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 16:20, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
::Documenting the event (assuming you have additional photographs) and interspersing it with bits and pieces from the interviews surely would be newsworthy [[:WN:OR]]. The full videos of the interviews could then be linked (if uploaded to Commons) for those coffee aficionados who want to get in deep. Or it could be an article about Indonesia's efforts to gain market share in the US. (Guessing the Ted Fishcer interview would be less applicable for the latter option.). Cheers, [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 17:42, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
:::I should have time on Friday to dive deeper into this. I'm pleasantly surprised by the interest! [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 12:43, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
::::Sorry guys. I just didn't have time to do the article any justice. I had other priorities that needed my attention. The good news is that if things pan out the way I hope they will, I will have an opportunity to do some original reporting on coffee production in Africa. Fingers crossed! [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 14:14, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
:::::Ah, OK. Well, Africa OR would be extra good, offer something the regular media usually does not (since they practically only cover Africa when something tragic or destabilizing happens). [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 15:10, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

== Coffee quote ==

Hi again, {{PAGENAME}} I found  a coffee quote for you at wikiqote. I hope you like it:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Just the other day, I was in my neighborhood Starbucks, waiting for the post office to open. I was enjoying a chocolatey cafe mocha when it occurred to me that to drink a mocha is to gulp down the entire history of the New World. From the Spanish exportation of Aztec cacao, and the Dutch invention of the chemical process for making cocoa, on down to the capitalist empire of Hershey, PA, and the lifestyle marketing of Seattle's Starbucks, the modern mocha is a bittersweet concoction of imperialism, genocide, invention, and consumerism served with whipped cream on top. No wonder it costs so much. ~ [[q:Sarah Vowell]]&lt;/blockquote&gt; [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 15:39, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

:Nice! Thanks for sharing. Wikiquote is a project I've been interested in contributing to, just never have. 
:One of the coffee quotes I've collected: &quot;Good communication is as stimulating as black coffee, and just as hard.&quot; - Anne Spencer
:And there's always the very quotable Dave Grohl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&amp;v=fhdCslFcKFU
:[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 14:22, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

== Advice on getting an article reviewed ==

Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], I really appreciate your contributions here and I wanted to reach out to you for advice on how to get my first article reviewed. I originally wrote it as a prepared story two days in advance of an event on February 16-17, but then I was unable to get a complete review. I have [[WN:GATWICK]]ed the article several times since then, but I fear this will be its last chance to get reviewed before it goes stale and gets deleted. I've reached out to five administrators and several other reviewers in the last three weeks but all have either said they are too busy to review it or not responded yet. 

The article is here: [[Two world records fall at the World Athletics Indoor Championships]]. Understanding that you are not a reviewer, do you have any advice for me such as ideas to improve the article and bring it up to Wikinews standards, to make a future reviewer's workload easier and to increase the chances it will be published?

Thank you,
--[[User:Habst|Habst]] ([[User talk:Habst|talk]]) 21:37, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

:I'm glad you're sticking with it and really trying to contribute.

:Here are some quick tips—things to keep in mind that I've learned along the way (and don't always achieve myself). In some of the tips I provide specifics for you.  Hopefully this helps!

:* Longer articles with many sources take longer to review.  
:** The review process here is pretty stringent and thorough. In my experience, the reviewers seem to read every sourced article. 
:** Be sure to remove sources if facts you use are established in another of your sources (I make this mistake frequently)
:** Wikinews definitely benefits from longer, in-depth articles and I personally prefer to write longer articles with a lot of background. ''However'', they are harder to get published. Pick your poison. ;)
:* The title states the main point of the article. If your title mentions two broken world records, that's what the article should talk about; who, what, when, where, why, and how two world records were broken. This is the [[WN:5W&amp;H]]
:** Based on your title and the lede, how does the last section of the article fit? If you could cut that entire last section and sources associated with it, that could help the reviewer.
:**Similarly with the second section. The second section doesn't mention Bol, Charlton, or the two broken world records. 
:* In longer, more complicated articles, I indicate to the reviewer my source for a given statement or paragraph. I do this using HTML comments. You can see it in pre-reviewed versions of some of my articles.[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=US_Supreme_Court_blocks_stay_on_federal_regulation_on_privately_made_firearms&amp;action=edit&amp;oldid=4740630] Look for text such as this: &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;!--Source: Everytown--&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;
:** That tells the reviewer that a specific fact or statement can be found in a specific article.
:** The reviewer removes them as they review the article so they aren't in published versions.
:** Not all reviewers see or use those comments.
:* Be sure to structure your article according to [[WN:PYRAMID]]. 
:** Readers get hooked by your title and are reeled in by your lede
:** Your lede should answer the 5w's and summarize the entire article (and should be able to stand alone) 

:I like the style in which you've written the article. I would recommend looking at past sports articles that have been published on Wikinews to see the format and style they followed. I'm not saying you should robotically follow them, but they will show you what is acceptable. I seem to recall I had an article with sections and the sections were removed as part of the review process...I'll look to see if I can find it. 

:For whatever reason, things are really quiet here right now. No new articles have been published since January 4th. I had an article go stale without review last month. I just posted another for review today and intentionally kept the article as short and to-the-point as possible in an attempt to make it as easy as possible to get something new posted. Maybe for your first article and given the quietness we're currently seeing, you cut down your article to the smallest size you can stomach so that you can go through the review process and experience it. 

:Based on the dates of the articles included by the {{tl|athletics}} infobox, we could really use a sports writer! 

:[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 23:16, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], thank you so much for your detailed advice. I have changed the title and the lede keeping this in mind, so that the main point is communicated clearly and is reflected in the title and body. I'll work on adding the HTML-comment inline source attributions if anything isn't clear.
::It seems like [[US Supreme Court Rules Unanimously, Keeping Trump On Colorado Ballot|your new article]] (which I do appreciate) has just been taken out from under review today ― this is the same thing that happened to my article before it went stale, so I fear the same thing will happen to yours. I was wondering if, based on Asheiou's response to your question at [[Wikinews:Flagged revisions/Requests for permissions/Asheiou]], could you please vote (not asking you to vote one particular way or another)? I think your input is important, because you are one of the two or three active community members who are writing articles this year (technically, there are zero members who have published articles since Jan 4) and the requester is uncomfortable with taking reviewer action without community consensus. Thank you, --[[User:Habst|Habst]] ([[User talk:Habst|talk]]) 16:00, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
:::I do intend to vote but I would like to hear more from Asheiou as well as other editors. I find Bawolff's comments interesting and would like to hear more about that as well—specifically what a new version of the review process might look like. 

:::I like that enWikinews has a stringent and thorough review process. I appreciate the feedback I've gotten from reviewers and feel the resultant, published articles are always better than what I posted for review. But the lack of reviewers to perform that process is effectively blocking new content. One quick and easy solution to that is to simply add more reviewers. And one unintended consequence of that may be reduced quality in the review process. 

:::I am interested in hearing what other editors ask Asheiou and what her answers are. If no one else asks questions, I'll ask more. But right now I don't want to dominate the process by peppering her with my own questions. 

:::Lastly, I've had four articles go stale so far. I've gatwicked a couple and let a couple more go unpublished. As frustrating as that is—to spend the time putting an article together only to have it not reviewed and be deleted—I don't want to rush the process simply to get one article reviewed. I'd like to explore a solution to the current log-jam that is least likely to cause new problems later. If that means another, complete overhaul of the review system, I'd like to hear ideas of what that looks like. 

:::I don't think we're at a stage where we should improvise a solution (but I'm open to be proven otherwise). The way I see it, raw page-views of en.wikinews surprisingly aren't dropping.[https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/en.wikinews.org/reading/total-page-views/normal|bar|2-year|~total|monthly] That obviously won't last without new content. But I think we have some time yet to be intentional. 

:::[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 16:54, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

== Hi. ==

I started a new story hopefully I can get more information soon, thanks, also if you need anything don't hesitate to ask me, thanks!!! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:16, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

:[[File:Thumbs-up-icon.svg|Thumbs-up-icon]] I posted on the Collab page of the new article. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 00:32, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:30, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
::Have a good night Michael. Talk soon. Thanks for the helping hands! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:45, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
== PGP?? ==

What is this PGP key business??--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 18:58, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

:PGP is encryption software.[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy] Individuals can use my PGP key to encrypt messages to me. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 19:36, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
:It can also be used to verify identity, sign messages, etc. Unfortunately, it isn't very user friendly, so it never got the broad acceptance it should have. I've used it in some form or fashion for almost 30 years. I used to carry a copy on a 3.5&quot; floppy.  [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 21:48, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
== Article??? ==

Palestinians article close to publish or review??? Thnx [[Special:Contributions/64.39.81.54|64.39.81.54]] ([[User talk:64.39.81.54|talk]]) 21:25, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

:Are you referring to the article titled &quot;[[12 Palestinians, possibly more, drown trying to get aid parcels dropped into the sea]]?&quot; If so, work is being done on it to get it ready for review. I'm not a reviewer, so I can only help get it ready prior to someone else reviewing it. You are also welcome to contribute to it. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] started the article and is currently the main contributor. You might check in with him to see how you can work together. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 21:31, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
::The IP is me Michael sorry for confusing [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:36, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
:::Ahhh. I thought the three question marks (???) looked familiar. 
:::Whenever you feel it's ready for review, feel free to re-submit it. I just wanted to get some of the basic stuff ironed out before a reviewer maybe rejected it. The orange banner and [Not Ready] can be a de-motivator. ;) [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 23:13, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
::::In your opinion do you think it's ready? I'm not sure and I hope it doesn't go stale, lately my articles have been doing better. [[Special:Contributions/64.39.81.54|64.39.81.54]] ([[User talk:64.39.81.54|talk]]) 00:36, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::I think it could be published as is. It exceeds the [[WN:PROD|minimal amount of three sentences]]. If it were me, I'd expand it more. The CNN article presents three points of view that you could write about: Hamas would like the airdrops stopped, humanitarian bodies assert that Israel is using starvation as a weapon, and a US official says the amount of aid arriving by land is increasing. Both articles mention that the airdrops are located in a way that makes it more likely they'll land in the water. 
:::::This might be an odd way to look at it; but I'd personally expand the article at least enough so that the sections from &quot;Have an opinion?&quot; and lower all fall below the image on the left. That makes the article look better/fuller in my opinion. 
:::::The nonexistent [[:category:Gaza]] should also either be created or removed from the article. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 14:19, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::FYI, there's already a [[:Category:Gaza Strip]]. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 14:57, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
== Copyrighted ==

I thought they looked suspicious just saying. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:14, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

:Yeah. They all look suspicious. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 01:34, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
::If you don't like suspicious, revert to remove copyright violations by editing and not copy-pasting the news, but &quot;Amber Alert cancelled after B.C. infant&quot; and &quot;Rare 4.8 earthquake hits New Jersey and New York&quot; does not like the copyright violations on news, such as the websites that copy-pasted edits, is not suspicious but it's normal. Yay. [[Special:Contributions/199.212.250.163|199.212.250.163]] ([[User talk:199.212.250.163|talk]]) 15:42, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
== Hi Michael ==

How's my article looking so far? Thanks. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:18, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] im going offline for now talk soon. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:26, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
::Which article? [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 18:23, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Bargi_plant_in_central_Italy_felt_with_explosion [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:09, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
::::Without digging too deeply into it, I can see there are two broken (red) links. There are line-breaks or carriage returns in the middle of the first and third sentences. Remember also to attribute all images using {{tl|image}} and to describe the image with a full sentence, and mention it's a file image if it pre-dates the story. Those things should be corrected before a reviewer gets to it (to save their time). 
::::If it were me, I'd also expand it with some background. Also, the article states &quot;At least three people were killed and four other bodies are missing...&quot; That implies we know four people are dead (four ''bodies''), but we don't, as of today.[https://apnews.com/article/italy-explosion-hydroelectric-plant-9bad887184d623bf7cf828fc03b5df53] You could improve that sentence by saying: &quot;At least three people were killed and four others are missing...&quot; [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 23:49, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
== New article ==

I submitted a new article. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:10, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

:I responded in the article talk page. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 14:49, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
== When there's a long string of edits that need to be reverted ==

Like [[Special:Contributions/181.77.35.112|here]], instead of reverting them one by one, you can go back to the diff immediately before the first edit, like [[Special:Diff/4776306]], click the edit tab, and then save. That reverts everything afterwards and is a lot faster. Also, you can warn disruptive users if you want, but there's no requirement to on this project. Thanks for your work both on countervandalism and evaluating submissions, it is really helpful. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 14:50, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

:I figured there had to be a better way of doing that. Thanks for the tip and the kind words. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 15:30, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

== My word! ==

This is horribly past due!

[[File:Wikinews WikiNoob.png|89px|left|This [[Wikinews:Contributing Reporter Awards|award]] is presented to new reporters who have started 10 or fewer news articles.]] 

---[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:54, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;

:Thanks! You know the interns routinely get pizza on Fridays, right? [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 15:58, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

== And: if only for your perseverance, a Cool Cat award! ==

You deserve this!

[[File:Cool Cat Barnstar 01.png|thumb|left|200px|You deserve this, you Cool Cat!]]

---[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:03, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;

== Hey BigKrow ==

@[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]], I was going to leave this message on your talk page, but there's some wonkiness with it. Your talk page is being [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:BigKrow&amp;redirect=no redirected] to a template. Was that vandalism?

The message is this: you don't have to delete the whole article [[Clear message after bomb threats three Tucson, Arizona area schools]] if you want to continue working on it. Just remove or completely change the last sentence and move on. Mistakes happen. 

Let me know if you need help fixing your talk page.

[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 02:06, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] It still needs a lot of work but, I hopefully got rid of the Copyvios??? Thanks. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
::[[File:Thumbs-up-icon.svg|Thumbs-up-icon]]
::[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 02:21, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
== IP harassment ==

I pinged @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] this needs to stop @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:47, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

:Agreed. I think we should implement a long-term block on the entire IP range, as recommended here: [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:Bddpaux#Recommend_blocking_anonymous_only_from_199.212.250.0/24] and less clearly here: [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Admin_action_alerts#c-Michael.C.Wright-20240424012600-2607:FEA8:1F1D:8400:799:28CC:56E3:DF38-20240423215000]. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 16:58, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
== Check User please ==

2607:FEA8:1F1D:8400:FAF9:19F7:C1C3:D56 [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:49, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

:It's likely our friend from Canada. An admin needs to block a couple of IP ranges to help combat the disruption. We had a temporary block of the IPv6 range but it expired. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 14:29, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
== My user talk page ==

It was vandalised and now has nothing there anyway you or others might be able to restore? Thanks much. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:26, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

:The vandalism is a rat's nest for sure. Was there more content that you are missing beyond the comments here: [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:DroofusUniversal.com/Annex&amp;oldid=4774633]? [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 16:53, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
::That vandal account created that page and overrided my whole talk page, yes that is my entire history of my talk page, thank you for trying to help! @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:58, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
:::It might take an admin to delete your current talk page and then to move [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:DroofusUniversal.com/Annex&amp;oldid=4774633 this version of your old talk page] to your new/current talk page. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 16:59, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] thanks Michael. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:00, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

:::::@[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] We found BigKrow's old talk page along with history here: [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:DroofusUniversal.com/Annex&amp;oldid=4774633]. 

:::::I am unable to move that page to make it the current User_talk:BigKrow because that page already exists. I think it will take an admin to delete the current talk page and rename [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:DroofusUniversal.com/Annex&amp;oldid=4774633 this version] to become the new/current User_talk:BigKrow. 

:::::&lt;strike&gt;I believe this may be how the talk page became a redirect in the first place. When you try to move a page, it gives this message: &quot;Note that the page will not be moved if there is already a page at the new title, unless it is a redirect and has no past edit history.&quot; So I think someone was trying to fix it by making the talk page a redirect so they could then move it.&lt;/strike&gt; [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 17:09, 26 April 2024 (UTC); edited [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 17:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
::::::Thanks everyone appreciate it. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:13, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::::I struck part of my earlier comment. The redirect was created with the first move/rename of the talk page. But then somehow a template was involved and a rat's nest ensued. If only the vandals would focus that energy into ''constructive'' editing. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 17:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
::::::::I know, right, sigh.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:25, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::* Posting to simply prevent auto-archive. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 15:51, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
== Pre-review ==

For the sake of chatter: I'm not opposed to that process. We could use a bit of streamlining in that regard. I look forward to seeing how it might play out over a year or so.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 01:55, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
== Hi. ==

Just saying hi, we haven't talked in awhile, hope you're well. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:34, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

:Hello! Yes, I was AFK for a few days. We took a long weekend in the mountains for some R&amp;R. Things weren't quiet around here I see, LOL. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 13:35, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], Welcome back! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:44, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

== Mistakes ==

Hi, Michael @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], I messed up the Texas weather article by mistake, any help? Thanks. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:26, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:36, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
== Boston Celtics defeat Dallas Mavericks ==

Hello, please review the article I wrote about the Celtics' win against the Mavs. Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/173.76.102.69|173.76.102.69]] ([[User talk:173.76.102.69|talk]]) 19:21, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

:Please note I am not a reviewer and can neither review nor publish articles. However, I may have time today to take a look at it and make some suggestions. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 13:25, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
== pre-review ==

I give you all the credit in the world for working on it, Cheers!!! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:57, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

:Thanks, but it is a team sport. ツ Hopefully it develops into something helpful. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 17:03, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
::Sounds good, but I also wanted to thank you for your work on your testing pre-review! @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:05, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
== OMG CAT TITS account ==

Is that name appropriate for wikinews? Thanks just curious sounds like a possibility of a bad editor. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:31, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], this one too Manifestation of the Witch's Titty [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:33, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
::{{user2|OMG CAT TITS}}
::If you find it offensive, I recommend raising the issue at [[WN:AAA]], where administrators (or possibly global stewards) can review it in accordance with our username policy ([[WN:U]]). If you do post to WN:AAA, it is always helpful to use the {{tl|user2}} template, which links to the user page, talk page, contribs page, etc. It's what I used just above. 
::Alternatively, you could also address your concerns directly with the user on their talk page. I agree that the username is not indicative of someone who intends to contribute constructively to the project, and it may indeed be a violation of our policy. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 14:04, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
:::Same with {{user2|Manifestation of the Witch's Titty}}. I don't see how that username indicates someone who is serious about writing news articles and I can see how it could be offensive to some. –[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 14:07, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
== Pings inter wiki ==

I think they work. I just pinged you on another wiki, did you get it?

Needed to type your name manually, just &quot;@Michael.C.&quot; offered no results there (it does show your account name here for that). [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:41, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

:It worked, but maybe because you posted on my user-talk page there, whereas when I tried it from a regular page, the other user didn't seem to get pinged. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 13:34, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], interwiki pings do work (but I think the user might need to have an account on that wiki). [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 11:42, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
::interesting , important condition  [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:52, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
== Continuing discussion from your reviewer request... ==

It's getting off topic so Ill reply here...
Mainly the fact that I've essentially been here for under 4 months, and I only have 11-12 published articles (much lower than virtually any reviewer). Also, I haven't done or pre-reviewed any OR, and there was a pre-review where I didn't really know the policy on something. Yes, I would like to become a reviewer, but do you (or anyone else) think that I am ready for it? [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 16:41, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

:I think you would learn it quickly and if there were an active reviewer willing and able to mentor you, it could work. You also figure out the mechanics of Mediawiki quickly (i.e., how to update the Main page, templates, etc). You are persistent and can be dogged with certain things. One of the things I learned from my block at WP is that some people don't take doggedness too well, justifiably or not. If your goal is to collaborate more and work towards consensus more, consider trying to figure out how to adjust that doggedness or more importantly how it's presented so that it is more-often perceived as collaborative rather than combative. I have to work very hard on that myself. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 17:58, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you. I see that we have now arrived at the point in every discussion about improving Wikinews, the &quot;this could work if there were active reviewers&quot;. Hopefully you being a reviewer can help with that. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 18:34, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
:::http://quassel-irc.org
:::Do you have a list of your published articles somewhere? @[[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]]
:::Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:38, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] nah, just check the 20 most recent published articles, the majority are mine... [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 00:55, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
== [[Google reports thirteen percent increase in greenhouse gas emissions]] ==

Hi, I am going through Newsroom deleting stale articles. I just found the one linked in section heading. I enjoyed the read and it looks like an important topic that is not immediately stale if they're still having that increased energy usage. Would you be interested in interviewing Google and several major giants (Microsoft, Facebook/Meta, OpenAI) about this, for example, by video call or email?

If so, the first step would be to add a note on article that it is being worked on to do interview, and make a list of questions on the talk page. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 20:02, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
== [[Special:Diff/4797232|This]]... ==

...was human error, I was aiming for the 'thank' link but the mouse slipped. Thought I'd let you know. Thanks for the tag. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:54, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

:Ahh, no worries. Thanks for letting me know! —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 12:47, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

== [[Special:Diff/4796888]] ==

Could this be also marked as abandoned? It was not edited for many days before. (Perhaps the 'stale' template could automatically change itself to Abandoned if no edits were made for N days. I haven't explored how this could work from technical perspective, yet.) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:08, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

:Yes.
:{{tq|Perhaps the 'stale' template could automatically change itself to Abandoned if no edits were made for N days.}} The CategoryTests extension[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTests] might be useful in that situation, but it isn't installed. I have tried to use it with a Pre-review category to automate certain maintenance functions around that template.
:I'm not sure how to accurately test for the duration an article has been in a given category. Perhaps DPL could be used if we had a more robust version of DPL. But also, I believe Mediawiki is replacing DPL eventually. It has caused problems when used heavily by a project, specifically ru.WN on their main page. 
:Anyway if we can figure out how to automatically change categories based on duration in one or another given category, we could use the function in {{tl|copyvio}} as well, to mark violations with speedy delete after 48 hours of being in [[:Category:Copyright violations]].  —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 13:19, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
== Congratulations on the successful request for Reviewer permissions ==

Hi [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]

Congratulations on the &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews:Flagged_revisions/Requests_for_permissions/Michael.C.Wright&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=4797553 successful request]&lt;/span&gt; for Reviewer permissions. You are now able to formally review and publish articles. After the review you will be presented with a step to add the new published article to home page.

There are several places where you can ask a question:

* [[User talk:Michael.C.Wright|This talk page]] is likely being watched by several contributors involved in discussions at the request.
* Article talk page, if related to article and contributors are being helpful.
* [[Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance]] can be used to discuss concerns worth keeping, in case they apply to more than one article. (Other sections of water cooler exist for policy, technical, proposals, and miscellaneous issues.)
* [[Wikinews:AAA|Administrator noticeboard (AAA)]] in case sysop action like a block or a page deletion is required.
* [[Wikinews:IRC|Live chat]] for real time discussions, with '#wikinews-en' for English Wikinews, and '#wikinews' for international-related or translations-related discussions that may require attention from other language editions, and '#wikinews-tech' for technical discussions.

Please let me know if you need help at any point.

Again, welcome to reviewing; thanks for volunteering, and have a great day!

Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:05, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

:Thank you. I look forward to working with you. I know I can rely on you for advice and mentorship. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 13:11, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
== Re: the helicopter story ==

I have just replied to you at the article talk page. (Please advise whether you want to continue getting such notes on your personal talk page, or you already receive Notifications through the wiki.) Thanks and best regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:11, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

:I have my preferences set up so that any page I edit gets added to my watchlist automagically. I also keep an eye on the ''recent changes'' special page. With our low volume of edits, that combination keeps me pretty much up-to-date. 
:Pings and/or heads-up are always welcome on my talk page, as long as the necessary discussion remains as centralized as possible. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 15:24, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
== scoop access ==

Hi, congratulations on receiving the reviewer bits!  As I understand, now as a reviewer, you should be granted the scoop access.  Would you be able to hop in on IRC some time, so I can talk to you about it and grant you the access, so you can proceed with reviewing ORs? [[User talk:Acagastya|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;&quot;&gt;•&amp;ndash;•&lt;/span&gt;]] 16:26, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

:I am on it now (nick: MichaelCWright) and just sent a message to you there. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 16:46, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
::Sorry, I got an important work in between and I had to leave, so I could not detail everything.  However, I will use the EmailUser feature to send you information later today.  Once I get the acknowledgement on that, I shall create the email.  By the way, do you use any email client on your computer?&lt;br&gt;[[User talk:Acagastya|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;&quot;&gt;•&amp;ndash;•&lt;/span&gt;]] 02:06, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
:::I am fine with just using webmail to check Scoop, I won't need to configure any email app for that, if that is what you are asking. I will likely configure my Scoop account to forward emails to my personal account, if that is possible. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 15:27, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
:::I have not received anything via EmailUser. Did you send it? I have alternative contact info on my userpage. Thank you, [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 15:26, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

== Wikibreak (over) ==

I'll be offline for up to the next seven days and won't be checking in during that time. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 13:32, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

:Are you still there by any chance? The helicopter story looks ready, and freshness is about to expire now. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:36, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] pinged. Please respond. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 23:43, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
:::[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] &amp; [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], sorry I missed your requests! As soon as I signed off here, I hit the road for a long-planned backpacking trip. I am back now. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 14:27, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
::::Welcome back. Wow, that sounds good. I hope you enjoyed the trip.
::::In the newsroom there is a story which I edited, about the exploded pagers, which I cannot review.
::::Could you please skim all stories in review queue and pick something that looks relatively easy to publish? I keep finding something to pick on and not publishing anything. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:10, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
== Congratulations ==

Didn't get a chance to congratulate you before you left. Not sure there was really a consensus there (only one reviewer weighed in) but fine. We all know what happened last time; and I don't want to create the impression I'm trying to stir up drama by doing this repeatedly. I may not have opposed, actually (wow, what a vote of confidence). I just wanted to say, of any of the regulars who weren't reviewers, I'd have trusted you to handle the job best because of your knowledge of your own limited knowledge (of course, there's what you do know, too) &amp;mdash; and I can see you demonstrating that already. Did I mention [[WN:Tips on reviewing articles]] at some point? Really, really helpful. I use the checklist every time (you mentioned you developed your own checklist based on a 2010 discussion, but this one's been kept up to date and it's just detailed enough). [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 05:59, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

:Thank you. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 13:41, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
== Prime Minister of Canada Justin Trudeau survives a no confidence vote ==

Thanks for reviewing the article. The article on the main page where there is a photo, still has Prime Minister of Canada Justin Trudeau passes confidence vote title. [[User:BilboBeggins|BilboBeggins]] ([[User talk:BilboBeggins|talk]]) 17:15, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

:I got this fixed. It could have been that I chose the wrong article from the widget/gadget that helps update the lead articles on the main page after one published an article. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 15:30, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

== California ied article ==

Getting close to staleness if not already hoping u can review it again? Thanks. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 14:27, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

:For some reason I missed this message, I do apologize. 
:I would have published it per my pre-review, but @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] still has it under review. It has now gone stale and will need to be [[WN:Gatwicking|Gatwicked]] and re-reviewed to be published. 
:In hindsight, I'm not sure my plan as a new reviewer to pre-review articles that have time before going stale was a good idea. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 15:30, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
== Vote about license upgrade ==

Hi! 

You have now added a conclusion (&quot;Yes, WN upgrade to CC-BY-4.0 if the the other WN also upgrade.&quot;). Thank you for that! And I agree that it seems to be a fair description of what concensus is. 

But I think we need to clarify what that means. We know that some versions of wikinews want to change too. None that I know of had said no. But many have not made a formal vote and given a clear yes or no. So can we say that the other WN will also upgrade so therefore the final result is a Yes, English Wikinews upgrade to CC-BY-4.0? Or do we have to wait for the final result from all the wikis or from a RFC on meta?

As I understand it some wikis wait for the result from English Wikinews before they do anything. So it is a very slow process to get anywhere.

Also if we agree that it is a yes then we need to know which date the upgrade will take place. I think it would be good if we could send a message to all WN with something like this:

&quot;English Wikinews will change to CC-BY-4.0 with effect for all edits made from December 1, 2024 (or another date). Arabic Wikinews have allready changed, German, Polish, Chinese and Esperanto Wikinews have also decided to change or support to change. You can read about it at [[:en:Wikinews:Water cooler/policy#Update of license]].

We hope that you will also change license so we can continue to share articles across the different versions of Wikinews.

To complete the change we need to file a request on Phabricator. To make it easier we plan to make one request for all the versions of Wikinews that will change the license.

To be able to coordinate the change of license we will therefore start a vote here suggesting that you also update the license to CC-BY-4.0. The vote will end on November 15, 2024. That will give some days to prepare the update.

If your wiki have allready decided or have an existing vote please leave a message here with a link to the vote/result.

Please note that if there are no comments or protests it will be taken as a support for the change per [[:m:Requesting wiki configuration changes]]. 

We will appriciate any help to make sure this vote is announced the correct places and the text is translated with a translator so if there are any errors please help correct it. If the local policy have different rules than the one we suggest please correct as soon as possible.

=== Vote ===
The vote end on November 15, 2024. All users with more than 250 good edits can vote. 

Question: Do you support to upgrade to CC-BY-4.0 too on the same date as English Wikinews upgrade their license?&quot;


So perhaps we need a new section where you add the final conclusion (English Wikinews will update per &lt;date&gt; and we will send out a message to all versions of Wikinews to try to get everyone else to update too) and perhaps also a section where we can keep track of the progress (and can discuss the wording of the message to other wikis). Maybe we can use the page I created: [[User:MGA73/Licenseupgrade]]. If you think we can move it to a new name so its not in my namespace (Wikinews:Water cooler/policy/License_update_2024 for example). [[User:MGA73|MGA73]] ([[User talk:MGA73|talk]]) 15:16, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

:That's a lot to unpack. ツ I'll try to go point-by point:

:* {{tq|So can we say that the other WN will also upgrade so therefore the final result is a Yes, English Wikinews upgrade to CC-BY-4.0? Or do we have to wait for the final result from all the wikis or from a RFC on meta?}} Would it be better to say something along the lines of 'English Wikinews will upgrade on date X. Other Wikinews projects are managing their processes internally and independent of English Wikinews.' I think waiting for all other language projects to align and work through things would be time-consuming and detrimental to maintaining momentum for the ones who want to move forward. And I would hope that a change in share-ability (due to license incompatibility) might spur action. I think it's best to post this conclusion after en.WN has all pages prepped (edit-protected pages are all that we think are left). Once that is done we could come up with a date and post the message to all language projects. 
::* Related; {{tq|To complete the change we need to file a request on Phabricator. To make it easier we plan to make one request for all the versions of Wikinews that will change the license.}} Should we instead provide each language project with instructions on how to do so? That way we all aren't held up and can instead each work at the pace our projects can support.

:* {{tq|As I understand it some wikis wait for the result from English Wikinews before they do anything. So it is a very slow process to get anywhere.}} Agreed. I think the only thing holding en.WN up is the edit-protected pages and [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] has committed to making those changes over the next few days. 🤞 

:* {{tq|Please note that if there are no comments or protests it will be taken as a support for the change per [[:m:Requesting wiki configuration changes]].}} My reading of the linked document is that it does not state an absence of comments or protests are interpreted as a vote of {{support}}. I understand it to instead be summarized as 'you had your chance.' &quot;[I]t should be enough to show that you have tried to gain consensus, and that you have given an opportunity for objections.&quot; It might be a difference without a distinction, but for such a formal and impacting procedure, it may be worth sticking very closely to what the Meta page stipulates. Maybe the verbiage could be along the lines of 
:::&quot;A lack of opposition or absence of comments during the polling period is not automatically considered support. Rather, it reflects that participants had their opportunity to express their views. If no objections are raised, the poll will default to a 'proceed' action, assuming no opposition was voiced.&quot;

:* {{tq|If you think we can move it to a new name so its not in my namespace...}} I agree and I am unsure of where that should be moved to. Since it's in your user space, it will be cleanest if you or an admin move it. 

:Thanks for sticking with and managing this! —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 16:32, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Lol yes it was a lot. Sorry about that. But I think we have to figure these things out.  

The reason I suggest that we coordinate the change of license is because then it can happen on the same day and as you can see on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/mediawiki-config/browse/master/wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php$10882 all wikinews have the same license per default. If the wikis change separately then some dev (or whoever make the changes) have to edit several times and add each wiki separately. So my plan and hope is that we can get all or most to change. If lets say 3 wikis do not want us to change then we can say on phabricator that &quot;Please change the default license for wikinews to cc-by-4.0 but make exceptions for these tree wikinews: Foo1, Foo2 and Foo3 (they stay with cc-by-2.5 unless they decide otherwise later).&quot;. 

I agree that it is perhaps a bit too much to say that no comments = support. I just wanted the wikis to know that the change will also happen if there are no protests. So that if they ignore this vote the license will change.

So perhaps the conclusion can be as you suggested but with a little addition:

'English Wikinews will upgrade on date X. Other Wikinews projects are formally managing their processes internally and independent of English Wikinews however the magical M@M duo will try to coordinate a joined change of license on all Wikinews projects at the same date.'

And if we want to do it like that then we need to chose a date that is minimum 1 month away. If we do that then Gryllida have plenty of time to fix the pages while we set up the messages/votes on all the other versions of Wikinews.

But of course we can also do as as you suggest and change license on English Wikinews and write to all the other versions of Wikinews that English Wikinews have changed and then still try to make all the other change license too. --[[User:MGA73|MGA73]] ([[User talk:MGA73|talk]]) 21:35, 5 October 2024 (UTC)</text>
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      <text bytes="24113" sha1="609xkwwsznktccak0uh2dovdtk8e41q" xml:space="preserve">== clarification question ==

Hi @[[User:Lesless|Lesless]] 👋🏻 

What is &quot;Cebuano, Warai&quot; and &quot;Dutch, Swedish&quot;? Page names or site section names? Could you explain in article, and wikilink if possible, please?

[[WN:5W|How]] did you calculate the name of the 2000000th article? I know one source has this information, but there is confusing, but I did not fully understand.

Thanks, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:16, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

:[[:w:ru:Википедия:Ботопедия]]. [[User:Lesless|Lesless]] ([[User talk:Lesless|talk]]) 04:53, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
:По вычислению двухмиллионной статьи. Это было в некоторой степени &quot;политическое решение&quot; (русский фразеологизм, не обязательно про политику). Так как статьи постоянно добавлялись и удалялись, двухмиллионное место плавало, технически, видимо, отметку в 2000000 преодолела статья, которая была сразу удалена. &quot;Музыка&quot; была следующей. [[User:Lesless|Lesless]] ([[User talk:Lesless|talk]]) 08:14, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

== related discussion ==

[[Wikinews:Water_cooler/assistance#Urgent_-_OR?_-_Sourcing_requirements_-_Russian_Wikipedia:_now_2,000,000_articles|LINK]]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:21, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

== Notes ==
Possible OR:

* asked Russian Wikipedia forum to clarify what is automatic fill. Received link to Ботопедия from Lesless and they added it to article. I consulted the linked official documentation page and added information from it into the article.
* Checked how many pages the author of the reportedly 2000000th page wrote - on his user page. I also checked which page he is working on right now.
* Looked up on forum and on Wikimedia Commons pages , which users were involved in breaking the news and in creating the new logo.
* Checked user rights &amp; roles of several users whom I linked and listed their roles in the article.

This is not OR, but I added attribution to the note about which article is 2000000th one, to reduce risk of misinformation. 

The 3dnews source looks relatively independent.

I think this is probably the closest I can get to addressing all the known concerns to me. Maybe some of them are still not fully addressed. This is about as much as I think is possible to do.

I am happy to answer questions and to help further. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:03, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

== OR? ==

how? [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 15:10, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

:In the notes section above. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:54, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

== Status on this article ==

I have ''somewhat'' been following this talk page but only recently realized [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] is too involved in article development to review it. 

The article was in the review queue but has been heavily edited recently so I moved it to developing.

Feel free to bounce it back to review when it's ready. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 01:12, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

:should be in review queue now [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:25, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
:(I'm surprised I edited the article yet was not automatically subscribed to its talk page; that's weird.) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:19, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

::I think in this case, given the language, you were best-suited to review this article. I think moving forward, it is best for you not to get involved with developing Russian-based stories so you can review them (unless of course you are the original author). 

::I would like to review it, however the language barrier for me is quite steep. Machine translation does not do so well with ru → en. All of the sources are in Russian and most of the links point to content in Russian. Some of the discussion here is in Russian. I can not find English sources commenting on the focal event. That does support the assertion that this is better-suited for ru.WN and less-suited for en.WN.  

::However, it could be argued that this article might be newsworthy to our Russian readers, of which we have a significant number. Russian is the top, non-English language for our viewers.[https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/langviews/?project=en.wikinews.org&amp;platform=all-access&amp;agent=user&amp;range=latest-20&amp;sort=views&amp;direction=1&amp;view=list&amp;page=Main%20Page]

::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], some specific questions:

::* Have you established that this does represent OR?
::* The last sentence &quot;In fact, the Russian Wikipedia is in fourth place after the English, German and French Wikipedias.&quot; doesn't square with [https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%B9/%D0%95%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0 this link] provided in the article, which places it at seventh, which is mentioned earlier in the article. To what is 'fourth' place regarding?
::* DTF should be listed in the sources at &quot;DTF&quot; and not &quot;:ru:DTF&quot;, correct?

::{{ping|Heavy Water|Bddpaux|Acagastya}} do you have any input? Is this newsworthy for en.WN, given our high number of Russian-speaking readers? What problems/dangers do we face if we publish it and later find inaccuracies or problems? What problems would we face if we publish and there are no inaccuracies found?

::—[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 14:43, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]
:::* My OR involved adding which users discovered the news and who created logo
:::* And which story the author is working on (some other Nabokov story)
:::* Including how many pages he wrote. Which is a lot. Some 0.3% as said on user page. Existing othervreports on this news do not include this number.
:::* All this information is publicly available and did not require contacting anyone in private, because this is a wiki. The only time when I needed to ask someone a question was to get an explanation what &quot;automatic fill&quot; is on the ruwp forum, which was also a publicly available documentation page.
:::* So I dunno how this qualifies as OR or not. It did involve some digging more than &quot;lookup 2M ruwp&quot; and combine search results into one article. Yet, all sources of information are public because this is a wiki.
:::* If there are some doubts I can attempt to interview the person who wrote the 200000th page on-wiki. I don't know how successful I will be. Their user page says they do not like to be involved in talk page discussions because it is a waste of time oftentimes and involves interacting with people who are more interested in noise than in content writing. Let me know if you would like me to attempt this.
:::---
:::* About fourth place this sentence can be removed and if either myself or @[[User:Lesless|Lesless]] manage to answer within 24 hours after publishing then it can be re added.
:::* I used :ru:DTF for wikilink to work. There is ruwp article about it but not enwp.
:::Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 18:31, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Мне особенно понравилось ''&quot;All of the sources are in Russian and most of the links point to content in Russian. Some of the discussion here is in Russian. I can not find English sources commenting on the focal event. That does support the assertion that this is better-suited for ru.WN and less-suited for en.WN&quot;.'' Послушайте, у нас международная энциклопедия. Все языки равны. Источники не перестают быть [[:w:ru:ВП:АИ|АИ]] от того, что они на другом языке. В русской Википедии и Русских Викиновостях принимаются англоязычные источники без ограничений. А у вас что, цензура? И это неправда, что Гугл-переводчик плохо работает ru → en. Я вот сейчас ниже покажу, как он перевёл этот текст. И источников сейчас больше трёх. Этого достаточно? Я уж молчу, что оригинальный репортаж на то и оригинальный, что не требует никаких источников вообще. Я и есть АИ. Я автор новости. По поводу четвёртого места. Это 7−3=4. Из семи вычитаем три ботопедии и получаем четвёртое место. Вам источник на это нужен? Ну есть вот такой источник, только там считали по-другому: [[meta:User:Ladsgroup/coverage_ranking_of_Wikipedia_languages]]. Для новостей о Википедии все источники могут быть внутри Википедии, это нормально! И меня очень удивил тот факт, что администраторы Викиновостей не знают очевиднейших вещей. Про заливки, ботопедии, места Википедий по языкам, выбор юбилейной статьи и прочих вещах, о которых в Русской Википедии знает почти каждый участник. [[User:Lesless|Lesless]] ([[User talk:Lesless|talk]]) 07:14, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
::: ru → en by Google translate
::: I especially liked ''&quot;All of the sources are in Russian and most of the links point to content in Russian. Some of the discussion here is in Russian. I can not find English sources commenting on the focal event. That does support the assertion that this is better-suited for ru.WN and less-suited for en.WN&quot;.'' Look, we have an international encyclopedia. All languages ​​are equal. Sources do not cease to be [[:w:en:Wikipedia:Reliable sources|Reliable sources]] just because they are in another language. The Russian Wikipedia and Russian Wikinews accept English-language sources without restrictions. Do you have censorship? And it is not true that Google Translate does not work well ru → en. I will show below how it translated this text (here it is). And there are now more than three sources. Is that enough? I will not even mention the fact that the original report is original because it does not require any sources at all. I am [[:w:en:Wikipedia:Reliable sources|Reliable source]]. I am the author of the news. Regarding fourth place. This is 7−3=4. From seven we subtract three botopedias and get fourth place. Do you need a source for this? Well, there is such a source, only they calculated differently there: [[meta:User:Ladsgroup/coverage_ranking_of_Wikipedia_languages]] + https://www.wikipedia.org/ - without botopedias. For news about Wikipedia, all sources may be inside Wikipedia, that's okay! And I was very surprised by the fact that Wikinews administrators do not know the most obvious things. About authomatic filling, botopedias, Wikipedia locations by language, choosing an anniversary article and other things that almost every user in Russian Wikipedia knows about. [[User:Lesless|Lesless]] ([[User talk:Lesless|talk]]) 07:25, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
::::In English there are a few main points, 
::::* firstly foreign language sources are not issue for global news project like this one, 
::::* secondly from list of large wikis a few wikis needed to be taken out as they are &quot;botopedia&quot; that is tiny stubs imported by bot. (Maybe it needs to be clarified in article). 
::::** Supposedly each user in ruwp knows how botopedia and automatic fills work. [Gryllida never heard of it]
::::*And OR is Lesless himself as significant analysis included.
::::In reply: no, here Wikipedia is not considered reliable source.
::::In reply: this news is for international audience not enlightened about wiki workings, it needs to be clarified.
::::Hope it helps and please ask if any questions. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:21, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
::::: In Russian Wikinews, all news about Wikipedia is based solely on Wikipedia and does not require external sources. В Русских Викиновостях все новости о Википедии основываются исключительно на Википедии и не требуют сторонних источников: [[:n:ru:Русская Википедия: теперь 2 000 000 статей|Русская Википедия: теперь 2 000 000 статей]],  [[:n:ru:Джимми Уэйлс пожелал удачи правительству России|Джимми Уэйлс пожелал удачи правительству России]],   [[:n:ru:Русские википедисты написали письмо поддержки украинским коллегам|Русские википедисты написали письмо поддержки украинским коллегам]], [[:n:ru:Телеведущая Екатерина Андреева манипулирует Википедией|Телеведущая Екатерина Андреева манипулирует Википедией]],  [[:n:ru:15 лет Википедии в Москве|15 лет Википедии в Москве]], [[:n:ru:Джимбо Уэйлс в Москве|Джимбо Уэйлс в Москве]], [[:n:ru:Русские Викиновости обогнали Польскую Википедию|Русские Викиновости обогнали Польскую Википедию]], [[:n:ru:Википедии исполняется 20 лет|Википедии исполняется 20 лет]], [[:n:ru:Русская Википедия восстановила статью «Путин — хуйло!»|Русская Википедия восстановила статью «Путин — хуйло!»]],  [[:n:ru:В Английской Википедии 5 миллионов статей|В Английской Википедии 5 миллионов статей]]... etc. [[User:Lesless|Lesless]] ([[User talk:Lesless|talk]]) 07:53, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::: Даже в самом шаблоне написано! &quot;Если автор репортажа не указал свои источники, источником информации является он сам&quot;!!  &quot;If the author of the report does not indicate his sources, the source of information is he himself&quot;!! [[:n:ru:Шаблон:Оригинальный репортаж|Шаблон:Оригинальный репортаж]]. &quot;с использованием собственных источников и информации, которая ранее не публиковалась&quot; = &quot;using our own sources and information that has not been previously published.&quot; [[:n:ru:Категория:Оригинальные репортажи|Категория:Оригинальные репортажи]]. [[User:Lesless|Lesless]] ([[User talk:Lesless|talk]]) 08:05, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::::For your reference, I edited the story beyond minor edits so I cannot publish myself. It is stuck because awaiting another reviewer. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:04, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::::If there are notes from your original reporting -- what information you obtained yourself -- which were not discussed earlier, and which help to verify a part of the content, then please include this information here now. It will help the reviewer. For the little parts I looked up and added, I included notes how I retrieved that information. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:08, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
:::[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]: Not sure if &quot;better suited&quot; refers to source translation difficulties (legit) or newsworthiness on en.wn, but for the record, if I understand correctly, volume of English-language coverage is not evidence against newsworthiness, although it could serve as evidence for to the same extent as volume of coverage in any other language. And I don't think we should give weight to where ''Wikinews'' (or en.wn specifically) readership is concentrated. [[Special:Diff/4798967|But for the reasons I mentioned at the assistance water cooler I don't think this is newsworthy.]] [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 18:32, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
::::What I was trying to say was that a lack of coverage by sources in the English language might indicate a lack of relevance to English-speaking readers. I was not trying to imply that disqualifies en.WN from being the first English source to publish it, which I see no problem in us doing. 
::::Your comment regarding giving weight to where en.WN readership is concentrated is well-received. I wasn't recommending we start intentionally catering to specific cohorts. Rather, I was recommending that we could, in cases like this, consider our readership demographics as contributing factors when considering things like relevance and newsworthiness. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 14:43, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

== Stale ==

Thursday, September 19, 2024 originally dated, plus sources are old. Thanks. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:56, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

:Так а кто тут всё затянул-то? В русских новостях было опубликовано сразу. И в  Reliable sources тоже. Только тут бодягу развели на две недели. Вы все дела так делаете? [[User:Lesless|Lesless]] ([[User talk:Lesless|talk]]) 20:51, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

::@[[User:Lesless|Lesless]], I share your frustration with the lack of nimbleness of en.WN. It is not caused by any single person, but a combination of factors, the main one being a stringent peer-review process combined with too few active reviewers. I understand the article was published quickly at ru.WN and that is great. However, we don't share all of the same policies here at en.WN and that means work is done differently between the two projects. 

::I hope this doesn't push you away from posting future articles here. When you do post articles here in the future, please be mindful of our policies so that we can work together to correct any issues quickly and easily and get content published. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 14:23, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
:::Нет уж, больше я с такой бюрократией связываться не собираюсь. Ценность новостей в оперативности. Вы никогда не работали в СМИ? А я работал, был репортёром. [[User:Lesless|Lesless]] ([[User talk:Lesless|talk]]) 19:47, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
::::Я, кстати, тоже работал =))) Помнишь я говорил тебе, что с ними тут бесполезно что-либо делать? Эти люди не википедисты. Я даже не могу понять кто они, но только не википедисты. По ним office action плачет. Если бы в этом office кого-либо что-либо тут интересовало — там тоже сидят не википедисты, и занимаются они не вики-проектами. --[[User:Ssr|Ssr]] ([[User talk:Ssr|talk]]) 06:52, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
:::Your policies? You don't have people, but have policies. But Wikimedia is made for people, not for policies. -- [[User:Ssr|Ssr]] ([[User talk:Ssr|talk]]) 06:54, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

== Review of revision 4799695 [Not ready] ==

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Imagine that you were given an editorial assignment to cover the voyage on the Titanic. You survived and brought the report. And the editor says to you: where are the independent three publications in independent sources? [[User:Lesless|Lesless]] ([[User talk:Lesless|talk]]) 07:43, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

== refresh ==

I asked Nikolai to comment using wikimail. Let's see what comes out of this. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:10, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

:🙂 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:26, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

== No updates. Still stale and abandoned. ==

@[[User:Lesless|Lesless]], there has been no update to the article that would warrant a status change from ''abandoned'' to ''review''. Also, see [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida's]] comment above attempting to reach out for help. There has been no update that I know of from Nikolai. Given our policy on [[WN:Freshness]], I don't see how this article is now reviewable. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 15:19, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], agreed. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:42, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
:There is an update. I require a reviewer to schedule a 30 min time slot for publishing interview. Tell me when (in Sydney time please) and then I will upload it here by then. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:09, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
::{{ping|Gryllida}} I don't understand what you mean. 
::You have information from Nikolai that is pertinent to reviewing this article? —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 14:18, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
:::Yes and I need scheduling 30mins on irc with you to upload it and do the review. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:00, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
::::Why don't you send it to scoop so all reviewers have access and can possibly review it, rather than me specifically? —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 14:41, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</text>
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Yesterday afternoon, 16-year-old student Raymond K. Wang was picked up from school early, at 1:55 p.m. Eastern Time, nearly an hour before school officially ended at 2:45. In his last 5 minutes at school today, Ray was in the school kitchen, where he and his class were in taking cooking lessons, and when Justin James Gallagher walked into the room, Ray went over and talked to him. Ray and Justin talked about music, like they usually do. They have known each other since December 2010, when Justin began working at the group home at Rock Street, about a 5-minute drive away from the school. It was the League School in Walpole, Massachusetts, where Ray has been a student for over six years. Justin Gallagher and Ray have been friends ever since they met nearly three years ago, and a topic they frequently discuss together is music. Justin likes most songs, but for the past four months, Ray has had cognitive dissonance due to the memory of an interaction they had on June 26, Raymond’s last day at the residence. On that early-summer afternoon, Ray decided to show Justin the song “Baby” by Justin Bieber. Unfortunately, Justin Gallagher was not a fan of the original, though he '''loved''' the goat version. In the goat version, in the chorus (“Baby, baby, baby, oh like”), the oh’s are replaced with the sound of a screaming goat. Well, actually a sheep, but whatever. Justin Gallagher laughed, but after that, when Ray asked for his impression, Justin said, “The song I could do without,” giving the original version a “2/10” but the goat version, which he loved, an “8/10.” Justin Gallagher likes, but feels mostly neutral about, “When I Was Your Man” by Bruno Mars, which got a 6/10 from him, but he loves the song’s predecessor, “Locked Out Of Heaven,” which he rated 9/10. For the past four months, while Ray has had a beautiful, wonderful summer and fall, he can’t stop thinking about his disappointment about Mr. Gallagher not liking “Baby.”

For the rest of the day on 6/26/2013, Ray was stuck on this thought. At some point later that afternoon, a funny moment involved the coincidence that Justin Bieber and Justin Gallagher have the same first name. When asked who sings “Baby,” house manager Bob Most jokingly said “Justin Gallagher” instead of “Justin Bieber,” and Justin Gallagher, who was just outside the office, sitting on a couch, laughed. 

Ray talked to Justin Gallagher again today. Justin said he didn’t like “Gangnam Style.” Or at least that’s how Ray interpreted it. Ray remembers for certain that he talked to Justin Gallagher about that song. What Ray is not 100% certain about is whether Justin said he liked it or not, but Ray feels like Justin said he liked it. Now that this memory has been challenged with today’s interaction, which would contradict it, Ray feels wronged. Raymond’s parents took him to a Bank of America near their home in Lexington, Massachusetts. The car ride took over an hour, and Ray spent the whole time unable to stop thinking about his disappointment. “Baby,” and now “Gangnam Style,” too? At least Justin Gallagher likes “On The Floor,” the next most-viewed video, but Ray is tired of finding people who hate “Baby” but love “On The Floor” and “Bad Romance.” 

The family got home at 3:35 p.m. Ray had a mini-meltdown in which he took his anger out at Mom. When Mom reminded him that people are different and that no song can have a perfect rating, Ray got very defensive and lashed out at her. Then, Mom gave him a time-out, ordering him to sit on the couch for 5 minutes. She also told Dad not to talk to him during that time, as this attention would count as “rewarding” inappropriate behavior. Mom said, “No, don’t give him a bonus.” By “bonus,” she meant a reward for the inappropriate interaction. Mom was very disappointed that Ray had lost his temper and was rude to her. 

Tonight, at about 7:30 p.m., Raymond and his father went to the Chinese Bible Church of Greater Boston, located at 149 Old Spring Street, Lexington, Massachusetts, a 15-minute drive (4.6 miles) away from home. Three hours later, they went to Best Buy in Burlington, Massachusetts. Ray was still upset about the fact that Justin Gallagher does not like “Baby” and “Gangnam Style.” Ray waited in the car. At one point, Ray got outside briefly and saw a Best Buy staff member named “Jeff.” Ray wondered if Jeff liked “Baby” but was afraid to ask him. Ray instead went back into the car for another few minutes before Dad finished shopping and drove him home. 

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Yesterday afternoon, 16-year-old student Raymond K. Wang was picked up from school early, at 1:55 p.m. Eastern Time, nearly an hour before school officially ended at 2:45. In his last 5 minutes at school today, Ray was in the school kitchen, where he and his class were in taking cooking lessons, and when Justin James Gallagher walked into the room, Ray went over and talked to him. Ray and Justin talked about music, like they usually do. They have known each other since December 2010, when Justin began working at the group home at Rock Street, about a 5-minute drive away from the school. It was the League School in Walpole, Massachusetts, where Ray has been a student for over six years. Justin Gallagher and Ray have been friends ever since they met nearly three years ago, and a topic they frequently discuss together is music. Justin likes most songs, but for the past four months, Ray has had cognitive dissonance due to the memory of an interaction they had on June 26, Raymond’s last day at the residence. On that early-summer afternoon, Ray decided to show Justin the song “Baby” by Justin Bieber. Unfortunately, Justin Gallagher was not a fan of the original, though he '''loved''' the goat version. In the goat version, in the chorus (“Baby, baby, baby, oh like”), the oh’s are replaced with the sound of a screaming goat. Well, actually a sheep, but whatever. Justin Gallagher laughed, but after that, when Ray asked for his impression, Justin said, “The song I could do without,” giving the original version a “2/10” but the goat version, which he loved, an “8/10.” Justin Gallagher likes, but feels mostly neutral about, “When I Was Your Man” by Bruno Mars, which got a 6/10 from him, but he loves the song’s predecessor, “Locked Out Of Heaven,” which he rated 9/10. For the past four months, while Ray has had a beautiful, wonderful summer and fall, he can’t stop thinking about his disappointment about Mr. Gallagher not liking “Baby.”

For the rest of the day on 6/26/2013, Ray was stuck on this thought. At some point later that afternoon, a funny moment involved the coincidence that Justin Bieber and Justin Gallagher have the same first name. When asked who sings “Baby,” house manager Bob Most jokingly said “Justin Gallagher” instead of “Justin Bieber,” and Justin Gallagher, who was just outside the office, sitting on a couch, laughed. 

Ray talked to Justin Gallagher again today. Justin said he didn’t like “Gangnam Style.” Or at least that’s how Ray interpreted it. Ray remembers for certain that he talked to Justin Gallagher about that song. What Ray is not 100% certain about is whether Justin said he liked it or not, but Ray feels like Justin said he liked it. Now that this memory has been challenged with today’s interaction, which would contradict it, Ray feels wronged. Raymond’s parents took him to a Bank of America near their home in Lexington, Massachusetts. The car ride took over an hour, and Ray spent the whole time unable to stop thinking about his disappointment. “Baby,” and now “Gangnam Style,” too? At least Justin Gallagher likes “On The Floor,” the next most-viewed video, but Ray is tired of finding people who hate “Baby” but love “On The Floor” and “Bad Romance.” 

The family got home at 3:35 p.m. Ray had a mini-meltdown in which he took his anger out at Mom. When Mom reminded him that people are different and that no song can have a perfect rating, Ray got very defensive and lashed out at her. Then, Mom gave him a time-out, ordering him to sit on the couch for 5 minutes. She also told Dad not to talk to him during that time, as this attention would count as “rewarding” inappropriate behavior. Mom said, “No, don’t give him a bonus.” By “bonus,” she meant a reward for the inappropriate interaction. Mom was very disappointed that Ray had lost his temper and was rude to her. 

Tonight, at about 7:30 p.m., Raymond and his father went to the Chinese Bible Church of Greater Boston, located at 149 Old Spring Street, Lexington, Massachusetts, a 15-minute drive (4.6 miles) away from home. Three hours later, they went to Best Buy in Burlington, Massachusetts. Ray was still upset about Justin Gallagher not liking “Baby” and “Gangnam Style.” Ray waited in the car. At one point, Ray got outside briefly and saw a Best Buy staff member named “Jeff.” Ray wondered if Jeff liked “Baby” but was afraid to ask him. Ray instead went back into the car for another few minutes before Dad finished shopping and drove him home. 

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Yesterday afternoon, 16-year-old student Raymond K. Wang was picked up from school early, at 1:55 p.m. Eastern Time, nearly an hour before school officially ended at 2:45. In his last 5 minutes at school today, Ray was in the school kitchen, where he and his class were in taking cooking lessons, and when Justin James Gallagher walked into the room, Ray went over and talked to him. Ray and Justin talked about music, like they usually do. They have known each other since December 2010, when Justin began working at the group home at Rock Street, about a 5-minute drive away from the school. It was the League School in Walpole, Massachusetts, where Ray has been a student for over six years. Justin Gallagher and Ray have been friends ever since they met nearly three years ago, and a topic they frequently discuss together is music. Justin likes most songs, but for the past four months, Ray has had cognitive dissonance due to the memory of an interaction they had on June 26, Raymond’s last day at the residence. On that early-summer afternoon, Ray decided to show Justin the song “Baby” by Justin Bieber. Unfortunately, Justin Gallagher was not a fan of the original, though he '''loved''' the goat version. In the goat version, in the chorus (“Baby, baby, baby, oh like”), the oh’s are replaced with the sound of a screaming goat. Well, actually a sheep, but whatever. Justin Gallagher laughed, but after that, when Ray asked for his impression, Justin said, “The song I could do without,” giving the original version a “2/10” but the goat version, which he loved, an “8/10.” Justin Gallagher likes, but feels mostly neutral about, “When I Was Your Man” by Bruno Mars, which got a 6/10 from him, but he loves the song’s predecessor, “Locked Out Of Heaven,” which he rated 9/10. For the past four months, while Ray has had a beautiful, wonderful summer and fall, he can’t stop thinking about his disappointment about Mr. Gallagher not liking “Baby.”

For the rest of the day on 6/26/2013, Ray was stuck on this thought. At some point later that afternoon, a funny moment involved the coincidence that Justin Bieber and Justin Gallagher have the same first name. When asked who sings “Baby,” house manager Bob Most jokingly said “Justin Gallagher” instead of “Justin Bieber,” and Justin Gallagher, who was just outside the office, sitting on a couch, laughed. 

Ray talked to Justin Gallagher again today. Justin said he didn’t like “Gangnam Style.” Or at least that’s how Ray interpreted it. Ray remembers for certain that he talked to Justin Gallagher about that song. What Ray is not 100% certain about is whether Justin said he liked it or not, but Ray feels like Justin said he liked it. Now that this memory has been challenged with today’s interaction, which would contradict it, Ray feels wronged. Raymond’s parents took him to a Bank of America near their home in Lexington, Massachusetts. The car ride took over an hour, and Ray spent the whole time unable to stop thinking about his disappointment. “Baby,” and now “Gangnam Style,” too? At least Justin Gallagher likes “On The Floor,” the next most-viewed video, but Ray is tired of finding people who hate “Baby” but love “On The Floor” and “Bad Romance.” 

The family got home at 3:35 p.m. Ray had a mini-meltdown in which he took his anger out at Mom. When Mom reminded him that people are different and that no song can have a perfect rating, Ray got very defensive and lashed out at her. Then, Mom gave him a time-out, ordering him to sit on the couch for 5 minutes. She also told Dad not to talk to him during that time, as this attention would count as “rewarding” inappropriate behavior. Mom said, “No, don’t give him a bonus.” By “bonus,” she meant a reward for the inappropriate interaction. Mom was very disappointed that Ray had lost his temper and was rude to her. 

Tonight, at about 7:30 p.m., Raymond and his father went to the Chinese Bible Church of Greater Boston, located at 149 Old Spring Street, Lexington, Massachusetts, a 15-minute drive (4.6 miles) away from home. Three hours later, they went to Best Buy in Burlington, Massachusetts. Ray was still upset about the fact that Justin Gallagher does not like “Baby” and “Gangnam Style.” Ray waited in the car. At one point, Ray got outside briefly and saw a Best Buy staff member named “Jeff.” Ray wondered if Jeff liked “Baby” but was afraid to ask him. Ray instead went back into the car for another few minutes before Dad finished shopping and drove him home. 

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On November 2, {{w|Kemi Badenoch}} was {{w|2024 Conservative Party leadership election|elected}} as the new leader of the [[UK Conservative Party|Conservative Party of the United Kingdom]], becoming the first Black leader of a major UK party and the fourth woman to lead the Tories.

She defeated his fellow rival {{w|Robert Jenrick}} by 12,418 votes, in member-ballot votes. At 11:10hrs ([[w:GMT|GMT]]), the results were announced by the {{w|1922 Committee}}, the party's election observer.

Only a third of Conservative MPs (42 MPs) backed Badenoch in her leadership race.

[[File:Renewal2030-DHiRNIK5.svg|160px|thumb|left|Badenoch Leadership Campagin logo {{image source|Renewal 2030, Kemi Badenoch Campaign for leader}}]]

Badenoch, who is riding from {{w|North West Essex (UK Parliamentary constituency|North West Essex seat}} in the [[UK House of Commons]], will take over the charge from former prime minister [[Rishi Sunak]], under whose leadership got defeated to [[UK Labour Party|Labour Party]] in 2024 general election.

Badenoch promised to return the Conservatives to &quot;first principles&quot; and start a series of reviews over the coming weeks to build a new policy framework.

Following this, the incumbent prime minister [[w:Keir Starmer|Keir Starmer]] (also the leader of Labour Party) and leader of {{w|UK Liberal Democrats}} faction {{w|Ed Davey}} congratulated her for becoming the Tory leader.
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[[File:Renewal2030-DHiRNIK5.svg|160px|thumb|left|Badenoch Leadership Campagin logo {{image source|Renewal 2030, Kemi Badenoch Campaign for leader}}]]

Badenoch, who is riding from {{w|North West Essex (UK Parliamentary constituency|North West Essex seat}} in the [[UK House of Commons]], will take over the charge from former prime minister [[Rishi Sunak]], under whose leadership got defeated to [[UK Labour Party|Labour Party]] in 2024 general election.

Badenoch promised to return the Conservatives to &quot;first principles&quot; and start a series of reviews over the coming weeks to build a new policy framework.

Following this, the incumbent prime minister [[w:Keir Starmer|Keir Starmer]] (also the leader of Labour Party) and leader of {{w|UK Liberal Democrats}} faction {{w|Ed Davey}} congratulated her for becoming the Tory leader.
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On November 2, {{w|Kemi Badenoch}} was {{w|2024 Conservative Party leadership election|elected}} as the new leader of the [[UK Conservative Party|Conservative Party of the United Kingdom]], becoming the first Black leader of a major UK party{{Verify|https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/kemi-badenoch-becomes-new-leader-uk-conservatives-2024-11-02/}} and the fourth woman to lead the Tories.{{Verify|https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/nov/02/kemi-badenoch-wins-tory-leadership-election}}

She defeated her fellow rival {{w|Robert Jenrick}} by 12,418 votes{{Verify|https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0qdnewgx19o}}, in member-ballot votes. 

Only a third of Conservative MPs (42 MPs) backed Badenoch in her leadership race.

[[File:Renewal2030-DHiRNIK5.svg|160px|thumb|left|Badenoch Leadership Campagin logo {{image source|Renewal 2030, Kemi Badenoch Campaign for leader}}]]

Badenoch, who is riding from {{w|North West Essex (UK Parliamentary constituency|North West Essex seat}} in the [[UK House of Commons]], will take over the charge from former prime minister [[Rishi Sunak]], under whose leadership got defeated to [[UK Labour Party|Labour Party]] in 2024 general election.

Badenoch promised to return the Conservatives to &quot;first principles&quot; and start a series of reviews over the coming weeks to build a new policy framework.

Following this, the incumbent prime minister [[w:Keir Starmer|Keir Starmer]] (also the leader of Labour Party) and leader of {{w|UK Liberal Democrats}} faction {{w|Ed Davey}} congratulated her for becoming the Tory leader.
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On November 2, {{w|Kemi Badenoch}} was {{w|2024 Conservative Party leadership election|elected}} as the new leader of the [[UK Conservative Party|Conservative Party of the United Kingdom]], becoming the first Black leader of a major UK party{{Verify|https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/kemi-badenoch-becomes-new-leader-uk-conservatives-2024-11-02/}} and the fourth woman to lead the Tories.{{Verify|https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/nov/02/kemi-badenoch-wins-tory-leadership-election}}

She defeated her fellow rival {{w|Robert Jenrick}} by 12,418 votes{{Verify|https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0qdnewgx19o}}, in member-ballot votes. 

[[File:Renewal2030-DHiRNIK5.svg|160px|thumb|left|Badenoch Leadership Campagin logo {{image source|Renewal 2030, Kemi Badenoch Campaign for leader}}]]

Badenoch, who is riding from {{w|North West Essex (UK Parliamentary constituency|North West Essex seat}} in the [[UK House of Commons]], will take over the charge from former prime minister [[Rishi Sunak]], under whose leadership got defeated to [[UK Labour Party|Labour Party]] in 2024 general election.

Badenoch promised to return the Conservatives to &quot;first principles&quot; and start a series of reviews over the coming weeks to build a new policy framework.

Following this, the incumbent prime minister [[w:Keir Starmer|Keir Starmer]] (also the leader of Labour Party) and leader of {{w|UK Liberal Democrats}} faction {{w|Ed Davey}} congratulated her for becoming the Tory leader.
{{haveyoursay}}

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On November 2, {{w|Kemi Badenoch}} was {{w|2024 Conservative Party leadership election|elected}} as the new leader of the [[UK Conservative Party|Conservative Party of the United Kingdom]], becoming the first Black leader of a major UK party{{Verify|https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/kemi-badenoch-becomes-new-leader-uk-conservatives-2024-11-02/}} and the fourth woman to lead the Tories.{{Verify|https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/nov/02/kemi-badenoch-wins-tory-leadership-election}}

She defeated her fellow rival {{w|Robert Jenrick}} by 12,418 votes{{Verify|https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0qdnewgx19o}}, in member-ballot votes. 

[[File:Renewal2030-DHiRNIK5.svg|160px|thumb|left|Badenoch Leadership Campagin logo {{image source|Renewal 2030, Kemi Badenoch Campaign for leader}}]]

Badenoch will take over the charge from former prime minister [[Rishi Sunak]],{{Verify|https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/kemi-badenoch-becomes-new-leader-uk-conservatives-2024-11-02/}} under whose leadership got defeated to [[UK Labour Party|Labour Party]] in 2024 general election.

Badenoch promised to return the Conservatives to &quot;first principles&quot; and start a series of reviews over the coming weeks to build a new policy framework.

Following this, the incumbent prime minister [[w:Keir Starmer|Keir Starmer]] (also the leader of Labour Party) and leader of {{w|UK Liberal Democrats}} faction {{w|Ed Davey}} congratulated her for becoming the Tory leader.
{{haveyoursay}}

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[[File:Kemi Badenoch MP as Minister for Equalities and Levelling Up Communities.jpg|thumb|left|170px|Kemi Badenoch's portrait as Minister for Equalities and Levelling Up Communities in 2022 {{image source|{{w|Department for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities}}}}]]

On November 2, {{w|Kemi Badenoch}} was {{w|2024 Conservative Party leadership election|elected}} as the new leader of the [[UK Conservative Party|Conservative Party of the United Kingdom]], becoming the first Black leader of a major UK party{{Verify|https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/kemi-badenoch-becomes-new-leader-uk-conservatives-2024-11-02/}} and the fourth woman to lead the Tories.{{Verify|https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/nov/02/kemi-badenoch-wins-tory-leadership-election}}

She defeated her fellow rival {{w|Robert Jenrick}} by 12,418 votes{{Verify|https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0qdnewgx19o}}, in member-ballot votes. 

[[File:Renewal2030-DHiRNIK5.svg|160px|thumb|left|Badenoch Leadership Campagin logo {{image source|Renewal 2030, Kemi Badenoch Campaign for leader}}]]

Badenoch will take over the charge from former prime minister [[Rishi Sunak]],{{Verify|https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/kemi-badenoch-becomes-new-leader-uk-conservatives-2024-11-02/}}.

Badenoch promised to return the Conservatives to &quot;first principles&quot; and start a series of reviews over the coming weeks to build a new policy framework.

Following this, the incumbent prime minister [[w:Keir Starmer|Keir Starmer]] (also the leader of Labour Party) and leader of {{w|UK Liberal Democrats}} faction {{w|Ed Davey}} congratulated her for becoming the Tory leader.
{{haveyoursay}}

== Sources ==
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Badenoch will take over the charge from former prime minister [[Rishi Sunak]],{{Verify|https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/kemi-badenoch-becomes-new-leader-uk-conservatives-2024-11-02/}}.

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Badenoch will take over the charge from former prime minister [[Rishi Sunak]],{{Verify|https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/kemi-badenoch-becomes-new-leader-uk-conservatives-2024-11-02/}}.

Badenoch promised to return the Conservatives to &quot;first principles&quot;{{Verify|https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/kemi-badenoch-becomes-new-leader-uk-conservatives-2024-11-02/}}.

Following the announcement, Prime Minister [[w:Keir Starmer|Keir Starmer]], leader of the Labour Party, and {{w|Ed Davey}}, leader of the {{w|UK Liberal Democrats}}, both extended their congratulations to her on becoming the new leader of the Conservative Party.{{Verify|https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0qdnewgx19o}}

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Badenoch will take over the charge from former prime minister [[Rishi Sunak]],{{Verify|https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/kemi-badenoch-becomes-new-leader-uk-conservatives-2024-11-02/}}.

Badenoch promised to return the Conservatives to &quot;first principles&quot;{{Verify|https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/kemi-badenoch-becomes-new-leader-uk-conservatives-2024-11-02/}}.

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Badenoch will take over the charge from former prime minister [[Rishi Sunak]],{{Verify|https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/kemi-badenoch-becomes-new-leader-uk-conservatives-2024-11-02/}}.

Badenoch promised to return the Conservatives to &quot;first principles&quot;{{Verify|https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/kemi-badenoch-becomes-new-leader-uk-conservatives-2024-11-02/}}.

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Badenoch will take over the charge from former prime minister [[Rishi Sunak]],{{Verify|https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/kemi-badenoch-becomes-new-leader-uk-conservatives-2024-11-02/}}.

Badenoch promised to return the Conservatives to &quot;first principles&quot;{{Verify|https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/kemi-badenoch-becomes-new-leader-uk-conservatives-2024-11-02/}}.

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She defeated her fellow conservative {{w|Robert Jenrick}} by 12,418 votes{{Verify|https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0qdnewgx19o}}. 

[[File:Renewal2030-DHiRNIK5.svg|160px|thumb|left|Badenoch Leadership Campagin logo {{image source|Renewal 2030, Kemi Badenoch Campaign for leader}}]]

Badenoch will take over the charge from former prime minister [[Rishi Sunak]],{{Verify|https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/kemi-badenoch-becomes-new-leader-uk-conservatives-2024-11-02/}}.

Badenoch promised to return the Conservatives to &quot;first principles&quot;{{Verify|https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/kemi-badenoch-becomes-new-leader-uk-conservatives-2024-11-02/}}.

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On November 2, {{w|Kemi Badenoch}} was {{w|2024 Conservative Party leadership election|elected}} as the new leader of the [[UK Conservative Party|Conservative Party of the United Kingdom]], becoming the first Black leader of a major UK party and the fourth woman to lead the Tories.

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On November 2, {{w|Kemi Badenoch}} was {{w|2024 Conservative Party leadership election|elected}} as the new leader of the [[UK Conservative Party|Conservative Party of the United Kingdom]], becoming the first Black leader of a major UK party and the fourth woman to lead the Tories.

She defeated her fellow conservative {{w|Robert Jenrick}} by 12,418 votes. 

[[File:Renewal2030-DHiRNIK5.svg|160px|thumb|left|Badenoch Leadership Campagin logo {{image source|Renewal 2030, Kemi Badenoch Campaign for leader}}]]

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      <text bytes="2967" sha1="oryjp1r2p93qxoh2ghnhqwhv1w7xl1j" xml:space="preserve">== Google's response ==

There does seem to be a response from Google[https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/31/tech/google-fines-russia/index.html] that we should report on for [[WN:NPOV]]. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 16:09, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

:{{done}} and amended. [[User:CSMention269|CSM.in]] ([[User talk:CSMention269|talk]]) 05:04, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

== Edit for clarity ==

The seventh paragraph reads: &quot;YouTube froze its accounts following the sanctions by the United States on Russian Invasion of Ukraine in 2022, which impacted its subsidiary at Russia in bankruptcy and paused its commercial operations.&quot;

The local (Russian) YouTube is the subsidiary. It's a local subsidiary of Google.

I'm not sure what is meant by &quot;YouTube froze its accounts...&quot; Is that a reference to the halting of commercial operations in Russia, as reported by the BBC? 

Please update that paragraph for clarity. 

I have not removed the article from the review queue in case another reviewer feels it is publishable as-is or by removing the paragraph entirely. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 16:05, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], I will review this in a moment. [[User:CSMention269|CSM.in]] ([[User talk:CSMention269|talk]]) 16:07, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
::Yes @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], it's a reference to the halting of commercial operations in Russia. And I made the corrections. Pls see. [[User:CSMention269|CSM.in]] ([[User talk:CSMention269|talk]]) 16:12, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

== Review of revision 4803739 [Passed] ==

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== Date / Amount ==

Hey guys,

According to [https://www.rt.com/russia/606819-massive-google-fine-symbolic/ RT] this is a fine which was issued back in 2022, for 100.000 rubles (a thousand dollars), but have reached this amount due to penalties for non-compliance.

If you can, check out the article through a VPN (or get Opera and set its &quot;VPN&quot; to Asia).

[https://tass.com/economy/1865905 TASS] wrote that according to the Washington Post, the amount now have surpassed the global GDP. - [[User:Xbspiro|Xbspiro]] ([[User talk:Xbspiro|talk]]) 13:52, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</text>
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      <text bytes="3148" sha1="kdcaav6vspw5078acyz0qwr706d208v" xml:space="preserve">== Google's response ==

There does seem to be a response from Google[https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/31/tech/google-fines-russia/index.html] that we should report on for [[WN:NPOV]]. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 16:09, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

:{{done}} and amended. [[User:CSMention269|CSM.in]] ([[User talk:CSMention269|talk]]) 05:04, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

== Edit for clarity ==

The seventh paragraph reads: &quot;YouTube froze its accounts following the sanctions by the United States on Russian Invasion of Ukraine in 2022, which impacted its subsidiary at Russia in bankruptcy and paused its commercial operations.&quot;

The local (Russian) YouTube is the subsidiary. It's a local subsidiary of Google.

I'm not sure what is meant by &quot;YouTube froze its accounts...&quot; Is that a reference to the halting of commercial operations in Russia, as reported by the BBC? 

Please update that paragraph for clarity. 

I have not removed the article from the review queue in case another reviewer feels it is publishable as-is or by removing the paragraph entirely. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 16:05, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], I will review this in a moment. [[User:CSMention269|CSM.in]] ([[User talk:CSMention269|talk]]) 16:07, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
::Yes @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], it's a reference to the halting of commercial operations in Russia. And I made the corrections. Pls see. [[User:CSMention269|CSM.in]] ([[User talk:CSMention269|talk]]) 16:12, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

== Review of revision 4803739 [Passed] ==

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Also remember to define or clarify acronyms used, such as TASS. |time=17:34, 3 November 2024 (UTC)}}

== Date / Amount ==

Hey guys,

According to [https://www.rt.com/russia/606819-massive-google-fine-symbolic/ RT] this is a fine which was issued back in 2022, for 100.000 rubles (a thousand dollars), but have reached this amount due to penalties for non-compliance.

If you can, check out the article through a VPN (or get Opera and set its &quot;VPN&quot; to Asia).

[https://tass.com/economy/1865905 TASS] wrote that according to the Washington Post, the amount now have surpassed the global GDP. - [[User:Xbspiro|Xbspiro]] ([[User talk:Xbspiro|talk]]) 13:52, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

:I can see the RT source since it is active in India. It seems to need a little change. [[User:CSMention269|CSM.in]] ([[User talk:CSMention269|talk]]) 14:06, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</text>
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LOTS WHEN THE HOUSE THE HOUSE APARTMENT BURNED DOWN BUT WHEN WE SAW HIS BLACK AND WHITE 3 FOOT THREE FOOT TAIL WE NEW WE KNEW HE WAS FROM AFRICA OR THE JUNGLE AND THEM THINGS GOT ALL SHARP TT TEETH FOR A SMILE...REDDI BOI HE TOOK OFF LIKE HE HAD SEEN A TWENTY FOOT PYTHON AND AFTER A MOMENTS HESITATION I WAS FULL SPEED RIGHT BEHIND HIM... AND I WAS RIGHT BEHIND HIM...ANYWAY THE QHOLF...WOLF KILLED THE PYTHON CUZ THE KIDS WERRE PLAYING IN THE JUMPS and losinG AND LOSING DIXIE'S DIXIE&quot;S GLASSES SO AND THAEN I WENT TO GO FOUND THEM AND FOUND THE EVIDENCE OF THE GIANT SNAKE TRAIL RUNNING THROGH THE TRAIL TO THE JUMPS..NOT THE FIRST TIME WOLFEE GOT BETWEEN ME AN IS IDIOT LETTING THEIR SNAKE ESCAPE IT AQUARIUM WITH THW THE SCREEN AND BOULDER TO KEEP THEM IN THERE ALSO AS WOLF 3 THAT LIVED BY THE CRICK IN THE TUNNEL WHER WHERE HE HAD HIS WOLF PUPPIES AND HIS WIFE AT WOODCHASE BY PRINCE ERNST AUGUSTES&quot;S MANSION BY SWAN LAKE. I THINK HIS BABY MOMMA WASD A DOG MAYBE WHO WAS STRAY...{the prince was gonna adopt one puppy and bring giant back of dog food...GIANT BAG GIANT BAG OF DOG FOOD FOR WOLFEE AND HIS WIFE AND PUPS^WOOLFEE^5:11 PM 3/26/2023SO ELTON JOHM ELTON JOHN HE HIS IS A DEAD RINGERV DEAD RINGER FOR DAVID FREERS HW HE HAD HIS CURLY HAIR,STOCKY BODY AND WHITE SKIN...WHITE SKIN...DAVID FREERS WAS ALWAYS MINI ME ELTON AN AND I JUST DIDN'T SE SEE IT BUT ELY ELTON WANTS TO PLAY DAVID FREERS IN THE MOVIE AND RIDE ON HEAVEN'S GATE'S PLATFORM....AWESOME AND I AM N MAKING HIM AN TIN MAN SUIT OUTTA GOLD PLEATHER LACED LIKE THE INDIANS WHO ARE NOW CALLED THE NATIVE AMERICANS...WITH MY DADDIO AND MY DADDIO O WANTS HIM TO KNOW ME AND THE QUEEN NEED HIM ON THE PLATFORM METEOR METERORITE...METEIORITEI GOT HIT IN THE HEAD WITH A METERORITE AT SCHOOL {when i was 5 five}AND THE NEXT THING I KNOW I WAKE UPIN BED IN MY BUNKBED THANK GOD BUT IT WAS NIGHT...ALREADY IN MY BUNK BED AND STANDING OVER ME WITH MY DAD WAS THE DOCTOR WHO MADE A HOUSECALL ANDWAS WEARING A TRENCH COAT IN BLACK AND CARRYING A DARK DOCTOR'S BAG...THAT'S HOW I KNEW I HAD FINALLY GOTTEN MY WISH OF BEING LIKE ON T.V. CUZ THEY THE LITTLE PEOPLE IN THE MAGIC BOX WERE ALWAYS GETTING THE DOCTOR TO MAKE A HOUSE CALL MY DAD JUST DIDN'T WANT TO JOSTLE ME OVER HILL AND DALE WHILE MY HEAD WAS DENTED FOREVER RIGHT WHERE I SALUTE AND I FEEL IT EVERY TIME I SALUTE...T.V. DOCTOR HOUSECALL FOR FOR LITTLE O MWE LITTLE OL' OLE ME,,,BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR....I REMEMBER BEING AT SCHOOL ON THE PLAYGROUND AT BERWYN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL..I REMEMBER I WAS SITTING ON THE MONKEY BARS AND SOME KID WAS {2 KIDS WERE} PLAYING BASEBALL..THROWING THE Ball back and forth aND I COULD SEE IT E WAS WHITE AND ROUND HAD ARC AND GRAVITY KEPT STOPPING IT AND MAKING IT FALL UNLIKE THE SPACE ROCK THAT JUST FLEW 5 FEET FIVR FIVE FEET IN THE AIR NO ARC NO NO FORCE OF GRAVITY ON IT NO ARC it came thru the yard next to the houses across the street sailed level the whole way thru the playground when i turn to tell the kid behind me over my shoulder that ,&quot;santa claus is real 'and the meteor misses my eyes and hits me in my salutatorian head but i am not that much of a bookworm... IT HURT LIKE CRAZY BUT MY MOMMA GAVE ME TWO BABY ASPIRINS AFTER I GOT UP LATER BY THE DISHWASHER AND GAVE ME TWO ORANGE BABY ASPIRINS THAT ACTUALLY MADE ME FEEL BETTER...SOMEWHAT... THIS THING FLYING STRAIGHT FOTR STRAIGHT FOR ME WAS BLACK AND VW VERY EVENLY SHAPED LIKE A BLACK FLYING RECTANGLE THAT WASN'T EFFECTED BY GRAVITY BUT IT WELL THE KLAST THING I SAID WHEN THE KID ON THE MONKEY BARS WITH ME SAID SANTA WASN'T REAL I WAS 5 HECK I KNEW THAT BUT I INSISTED ON KEEPING IT FUN FOR THEM AND THEIR PARENTS FOR ONE OR TWO MORE YEARS...ANYWAY I TURNED MY HEAD TO SAY &quot;SANTA IS REAL&quot; AND THE METERORITE JUST JUST DENTED M Y SKULL NOT NOTBURN MY EYE OFF OFF LIKE THEY HAD INTED INTENDED... (WHEN I WAS STILL 5,SAINT ELMO&quot;S FIRE WAS AT HOME BT THE TELEPHONE [POLE] WIRES AT THE BACKYARD OVER THE WIRE(S)...THAT CONNECTED TO THE HOUSE BY THE KITCHEN WINDOWTHAN LAND OM THEN LAND ON THE HOUSE AND GO KABOOM IN THRU THE ROOF AND IN THE ATTIC MY DAD CALLED THE FIRE DEPARTMENY FIRE DEPARTMENT AND TOLD ALL OF US TO LEAVE THE HOUSE ANNE WENT BACK IN THE HOUSE TO GET OUR CAT HANKY WHO RAISED ME LIKE PETER PAN...HE WAS HIDING UNDER THE B ED... 
RICHARD NIXONRICHARD NIXON HE FLEW UP TO ME IN SPIRIT WHEN I WAS AT BERWYN ELEMENTARY ON MY DAY OFF IN MY BERWYN BOBCATS NAVY BLUE SCHOOL SWEATSHIRT...AND BLUE JEANS WITH THE BELLS...I WAS SO PROUD JUST LIKE THE ALLMAN BROTHERS SONG. &quot;ALABAMA...SWEET HOME, ALABAMA NOW WATERGATE DOES NOT BOTHER ME DOES YOUR CONCIOUS BOTHER YOU...TELL THE TRUTH &quot;MY CAT HANKY WAS A STAR ON MY SWEATSHIRT....I MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN 5TH GRADE BUT I WAS STILL THE SIZE OF A 5 YEAR OLD...I WAS THE SIZE OF A 3 YEAR OLD IF YOU'RE 1 AND A 1/2 YEARS OLD WHEN I WAS 5 AND IT TOOK FOREVER FOR ME TO JUST SEE WHAT WAS ON THE COUNTER IN THE BATHROOM....nursery rym rhymes piture in tripleckiktNURSERY RHYMES AND MOTHER GOOSESO MY SISTER'S aND PARENTS GOT THE NURSERY RHYME BOOK OUT AND IT WAS BACK TO MOTHER GOOSE FOR ME...THEY WOULD SHOW ME THE PICTURES OF OLE KING COLE ,HUMPTY DUMPTY, LITTLE MISS MUFFETT...AND I WOULD HEAR ABOUT &quot;THE COW THAT JUMPED OVER THE MOON&quot;...HEY, DIDDLE-DIDDLETHE CAT AND THE FIDDLETHE COW JUMPED OER THE MOONTHE LITTLE DOG LAUGHED TO SEE SUCH SPORTAND THE DISH RAN AWAY WITH THE SPOONYEA YEAH...NOW THEN BACK TO THE FAIRY TALES A COW COULD NOT JUMP MORE THAN 2 TO 4 INCHES AND WAS TOO HEAVY EVEN IF IT RAISED ALL 4 HOOFS IT WAS STILL NOT MORE THAN 2 TO 4 INCHES I ALWAYS PICTURED A COW TRYING TO JUMP ...THEN THE PICTURE IN MOTHER GOOSE SHOWED A COW JUST SAILING IN AN ARC OVER THE MOON THEN WE WENT TO THE MOON AND ORBITED IT FIRST AND SENT A MONKEY IN A SPACE CAPSULE TO ORBIT THE MOON LIKE A CRASH TEST DUMMY... AND IN THE 70'S WE WERE ON OUR WAY UP NORTH WHEN WE STOPPED AND BOUGHT A BLACK AND WHITE PORTABLE PIRT POTABLE T.V. TO WATCH THE SPACE LANDING OF THE U S OF A ON THE MOON...DUH DUH...HOW DID THEY HAVE CELL PHONE SERVICE THAT'S WHAT THE DISH ID IS FOR AND THE SPOON CAN BE THE ANTENNAE AND THE LITTLE DOG DIDN'T GET TO GO TO SPAE to SPACE IF ANYTHING IT WAS A MONKEY...FIRST THEHY SENT A MONKEY TO SPace and i n AND I BECAMW AND I BECAME CURIOUS GEORGE AND ALL THINGS MONKEY W EXCEPT THEIR FUR...{DR. JANE GOODALL TOO}...I STARTED IMITATING THE MO NKEYS &quot;THE MONKEES&quot;WITH DAVY JONES PETER NESBETH, MICKEY DOLAN AND PETER WAS A BAND AND THEY HAD A SHOW DAVY JONES WAS AN OFFICIAL EMMEBESSARIE OF THE QUEEN THAT WERE FREQUENTING THE T. V. TELEVISION...SO IF A MONKEY COULD DO IT SO COULD I AND I STARTED CRAW;LING UP THE LDDER LADDER THE LORD HAD MERCIFULLY PUT ON THE FLOOR SO I COULD BE A CAREER GIRL EVEN WHEN I WAS A BABY AS I LIKE TO SAY...&lt;&quot;I WAS A CAREER GIRL EVEN WHEN I WAS A BABY&quot;&gt;I COULD PATT PAT MY HEAD WITH MY ELBOW ON MY HEAD..SCREECH AND SSY SAY EEK EEK EEK,,YOU KNOW EVERYTHING BUT RIDE BIKES AND I DID THAT TOO BUT NOT WELL.ONE DAY I REMEMBER I WAS STILL IN MY PLAYPEN AND MY DAD WAS IN THE KITCHEN WITH MY MOM TELLING MY TEENAGE BROTHER AND SISTER'S WHO HAD JUST WALKED IN THAT DARWIN DIDN'T EXIST BECUSE WE WERE NOT DESCENDED FROM MONKEYS MY BROTHER AND SISTER SAID THEY BELIEVED IN DARWIN AND THERE I WAS IN MY WOODEN SLATED PLAYPEN PATTING MY HEAD HANGINGING ON THE RAIL AND CHIRPING LIKE A MONKEY AND THE REST ID IS HISTORY ...THEY TOOK MY PICTURE THAT DAY AND MY HAIR WAS STANDING ALL ON END FROM STATIC ELECTRICKITY...AND MY PLAYPEN LOOKED LIKE A CAGE2:49 AM 3/31/2023i remember that year when i got hit by what apparently the asians did not have technology to drive into my head with a remote control BUT THAT CHRISTMAS THEY MADE THE MOVIE WITH PUPPETS ABOUT THE RUDOLPH THE RED NOSED REINDEER..FROM HANNA- BARBERA OR FAMILY FESTIVAL OF FILMSRUDOLPH GOT HIT IN THE HEAD WITH A ROCK OR THE ABOMBINABLE OR SOMETHING AND THERE WAS A CHARLIE IN THE BOX AND I GOT A JACK IN THE BOX AND I LEARNED TO LOVE THE SEWN DOLLY AND I GOT A WHOLE TOY KITCHEN IN MERCURY BLUE LIKE ONE OF OUR CARS AT THE TIME...THE KITCHEN WAS MY SIZE WITH FRIDGE STOVE AND REAL WORKING FAYUCET THAT YOU WOULD FILL WITH WATER AND DRAINED INTO A COFFEE CAN IN UNDER THE SINK...PLUS I GOT TWO SUZY HOMEMAKER VANITIES ONE WITH A LOCKING DOOR...
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Kamala, an Asian elephant at the Smithsonian National Zoo, was euthanized Friday after an irreversible decline in her a physical condition related to osteoarthritis. She was estimated to be around 50 years old.

[[File:ElephantHouseNationalZoo.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Outdoor elephant habitat at the {{w|National_Zoological_Park_(United_States)|Smithsonian National Zoo}} {{Image source|[[c:User:MamaGeek|MamaGeek]]}}]]

She was born in the wild around 1975 in Sri Lanka and was raised at a sanctuary for orphans before being moved to the Calgary Zoo in 1976. She had two children in Calgary, male Calvin in June 1986 and female Maharani in 1990. When she was transferred to the Smithsonian National Zoo in May 2014, they came with her.

Asian elephants are considered endangered by the [[International Union for Conservation of Nature]]. Her lineage has contributed to the birth of at least a dozen elephant calves around the world. According to the zoo, she served as an ambassador for her species.

Her way of standing predisposed her to osteoarthritis, a degenerative joint and bone condition that the elephant care team helped manage with monthly injections and multi-modal therapies. In the past several weeks her range of motion was limited and she increasingly chose to stay in one spot, presumably due to pain. Her poor prognosis led animal care staff to decide to euthanize her.

Her herdmates were not present for the procedure, but were given time to be with her after. 

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Kamala, an Asian elephant at the {{w|National Zoological Park (United States)|Smithsonian National Zoo}}, was euthanized Friday after an irreversible decline in her a physical condition related to osteoarthritis. She was estimated to be around 50 years old.

She was born in the wild around 1975 in Sri Lanka and was raised at a sanctuary for orphans before being moved to the {{w|Calgary Zoo}} in 1976. She had two children in Calgary, male Calvin in June 1986 and female Maharani in 1990. When she was transferred to the Smithsonian National Zoo in May 2014, they came with her.

Asian elephants are considered endangered by the [[International Union for Conservation of Nature]]. Her lineage has contributed to the birth of at least a dozen elephant calves around the world. According to the zoo, she served as an ambassador for her species.

Her way of standing predisposed her to osteoarthritis, a degenerative joint and bone condition that the elephant care team helped manage with monthly injections and multi-modal therapies. In the past several weeks her range of motion was limited and she increasingly chose to stay in one spot, presumably due to pain. Her poor prognosis led animal care staff to decide to euthanize her.

Her herdmates were not present for the procedure, but were given time to be with her after. 

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Kamala, an Asian elephant at the {{w|National Zoological Park (United States)|Smithsonian National Zoo}}, was euthanized Friday after an irreversible decline in her a physical condition related to osteoarthritis. She was estimated to be around 50 years old.

She was born in the wild around 1975 in Sri Lanka and was raised at a sanctuary for orphans before being moved to the {{w|Calgary Zoo}} in 1976. She had two children in Calgary, male Calvin in June 1986 and female Maharani in 1990. When she was transferred to the Smithsonian National Zoo in May 2014, they came with her.

Asian elephants are considered endangered by the [[International Union for Conservation of Nature]]. Her lineage has contributed to the birth of at least a dozen elephant calves around the world. According to the zoo, she served as an ambassador for her species.

Her way of standing predisposed her to osteoarthritis, a degenerative joint and bone condition that the elephant care team helped manage with monthly injections and multi-modal therapies. In the past several weeks her range of motion was limited and she increasingly chose to stay in one spot, presumably due to pain. Her poor prognosis led animal care staff to decide to euthanize her.

Her herdmates were not present for the procedure, but were given time to be with her after. 

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Kamala, an Asian elephant at the {{w|National Zoological Park (United States)|Smithsonian National Zoo}}, was euthanized Friday after an irreversible decline in her a physical condition related to osteoarthritis. She was estimated to be around 50 years old.

She was born in the wild around 1975 in Sri Lanka and was raised at a sanctuary for orphans before being moved to the {{w|Calgary Zoo}} in 1976. She had two children in Calgary, male Calvin in June 1986 and female Maharani in 1990. When she was transferred to the Smithsonian National Zoo in May 2014, they came with her.

Asian elephants are considered endangered by the [[International Union for Conservation of Nature]]. Her lineage has contributed to the birth of at least a dozen elephant calves around the world. According to the zoo, she served as an ambassador for her species.

Her way of standing predisposed her to osteoarthritis, a degenerative joint and bone condition that the elephant care team helped manage with monthly injections and multi-modal therapies. In the past several weeks her range of motion was limited and she increasingly chose to stay in one spot, presumably due to pain. Her poor prognosis led animal care staff to decide to euthanize her.

Her herdmates were not present for the procedure, but were given time to be with her after. 

{{haveyoursay}}
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Kamala, an Asian elephant at the {{w|National Zoological Park (United States)|Smithsonian National Zoo}} in Washington, D.C., United States, was euthanized Friday after an irreversible decline in her physical condition related to osteoarthritis. She was estimated to be around 50 years old.

Her way of standing predisposed her to osteoarthritis, a degenerative joint and bone condition that the elephant care team helped manage with monthly injections and multi-modal therapies. In the past several weeks her range of motion was limited, and she increasingly chose to stay in one spot, presumably due to pain. Her poor prognosis led animal care staff to decide to euthanize her.

She was born in the wild around 1975 in Sri Lanka and was raised at a sanctuary for orphans before being moved to the {{w|Calgary Zoo}} in 1976. She had two children in Calgary: male Calvin in June 1986 and female Maharani in 1990. When she was transferred to the Smithsonian National Zoo in May 2014, her two calves accompanied her.

Asian elephants are considered endangered by the [[International Union for Conservation of Nature]]. Her lineage has contributed to the birth of at least a dozen elephant calves around the world. According to the zoo, she served as an ambassador for her species.

Her herdmates were not present for the procedure, but were given time to be with her afterward.

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Her way of standing predisposed her to osteoarthritis, a degenerative joint and bone condition that the elephant care team helped manage with monthly injections and multi-modal therapies. In the past several weeks her range of motion was limited, and she increasingly chose to stay in one spot, presumably due to pain. Her poor prognosis led animal care staff to decide to euthanize her.

She was born in the wild around 1975 in Sri Lanka and was raised at a sanctuary for orphans before being moved to the {{w|Calgary Zoo}} in 1976. She had two calves in Calgary: male Calvin in June 1986 and female Maharani in 1990. When she was transferred to the Smithsonian National Zoo in May 2014, her two calves accompanied her.

Asian elephants are considered endangered by the [[International Union for Conservation of Nature]]. Her lineage has contributed to the birth of at least a dozen elephant calves around the world. According to the zoo, she served as an ambassador for her species.

Her herdmates were not present for the procedure, but were given time to be with her afterward.

{{haveyoursay}}
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      <comment>Page created with &quot;{{date/7/2011}} [[Image:[[File:Testimony.png|thumb|]] October 7, 2024 - November 18, 2007]]  A professional digital marketer [[Ajibade Testimony]]   =='''EARLY LIFE'''== '''Ajibade Testimony''' who is born on /7/10/2000 october in ilorin, His parent are Mr. and Mrs. Ajibade who are native of kwara state, but the live in ilorin kwara state, Nigeria. he went to High point academy, when he is in pry 4 he left His and school high point and went to CAC, ilorin and went to ILO...&quot;</comment>
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'''Ajibade Testimony''' start his career in the years 2024 , Because he join a great and awesome business opportunity call [2]Neolife. And he is also expert in online business that he specialize on Digital marketing, social media marketing, Seo expert, Shopify marketing, dropshipping, promotion and so on. And he is working on some freelancer platform like [Upwork][3], [fiverr][4], [kwork][5], [PeoplePerHour][6], [Latium] [7]and so on.
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A professional digital marketer [[Ajibade Testimony]] 

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      <comment>برای رفع مشکل از Copilot   هوش مصنوعی  مایکروسافت  که ایمان خورشیدی از ایران مدرس زبان و لهجه و گویشهای ایرانی اوست کمک گرفت  , و راهنمایی صفحه که عالیست</comment>
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{{  ایمان خورشیدی بازیگر نابغه ایرانی به طور شگفت‌انگیزی بر 112 زبان و گویش مختلف تسلط دارد. این زبان‌ها شامل انگلیسی، عربی، دری، پشتو، تاجیکی، ترکی قشقایی، ترکی آذری، لری، کردی و بسیاری دیگر می‌شود.

#### تسلط بر زبان‌ها و گویش‌ها
ایمان خورشیدی با تسلط بر 112 زبان و گویش، از جمله انگلیسی، عربی، دری، پشتو، تاجیکی، ترکی قشقایی، ترکی آذری، لری، کردی، و ده‌ها گویش دیگر، توانسته است نقش مهمی در توسعه مدل‌های زبانی هوش مصنوعی ایفا کند. او با تقلید صدای بسیاری از سلبریتی‌ها و شخصیت‌ها، از جمله عادل فردوسی‌پور، علی دایی، نصرالله مدقالچی، و مهران مدیری، توانسته است توجه بسیاری را جلب کند.

### زبان‌ها و گویش‌های بین‌المللی
1. **انگلیسی بریتانیا**
2. **انگلیسی استرالیا**
3. **انگلیسی ایالات متحده**
4. **انگلیسی کانادا**
5. **عربی عراقی**
6. **عربی شامی (سوریه)**
7. **عربی لبنانی**
8. **عربی عربستان سعودی**
9. **عربی امارات متحده عربی**
10. **عربی مصری**
11. **عربی یمنی**
12. **ترکی استانبولی**
13. **ترکی ترکمنستان**
14. **ترکی آذربایجان**
15. **کردی مرکزی**
16. **اردو (پاکستان و هند)**
17. **دری (افغانستان)**
18. **پشتو (افغانستان)**
19. **ازبکی (افغانستان و ازبکستان)**
20. **هندی (انگلیسی بریتانیایی)**
21. **ارمنی (ارمنستان)**
22. **تاجیکی (تاجیکستان)**
23. **گرجی (گرجستان)**

### زبان‌ها و گویش‌های داخلی ایران
1. **فارسی**:
   - گویش‌های مختلف مانند تهرانی، شیرازی، اصفهانی، مشهدی، یزدی، کرمانی، و غیره.
2. **ترکی قشقایی**
3. **ترکی آذری**
4. **لری**:
   - گویش‌های مختلف مانند بختیاری، بویراحمدی، ممسنی، و غیره.
5. **کردی**:
   - گویش‌های مختلف مانند کرمانجی، سورانی، کلهری، و غیره.
6. **گیلکی**
7. **مازندرانی**
8. **بلوچی**
9. **تالشی**
10. **ترکمنی**
11. **عربی خوزستانی**
12. **سیستانی**

#### همکاری با شرکت‌های بین‌المللی
مایکروسافت، سامسونگ، گوگل و چند پلتفرم فضای مجازی در قسمت صدا خواهان او هستند. شرکت سامسونگ اعلام کرده است که با آلبوم اول ایمان خورشیدی که &quot;سلطان عادل فردوسی‌پور&quot; نام دارد، همکاری خواهد کرد. مایکروسافت نیز گفته است که زبان‌ها و گویش‌های مختلفی که خورشیدی بر آن‌ها تسلط دارد، برای استفاده در ترجمه‌های متن به متن، متن به صدا، دوبله و صداگذاری در هوش مصنوعی گوگل مورد استفاده قرار می‌گیرد. این صداها ماشینی نیستند و ثبت شده‌اند تا از استفاده غیرقانونی توسط دیگران جلوگیری شود.

#### افتخارات و جوایز
ایمان خورشیدی به عنوان سفیر صلح و با تدریس به مدل‌های زبانی، به پیشرفت هوش مصنوعی مایکروسافت کمک می‌کند. او همچنین با شرکت در دوره‌های آنلاین و دوره‌های فضای ابری اطلاعات، مدل‌های ذهنی خود و مدل‌های GPT-4 را بارور می‌نماید.

== Sources ==
&lt;!--Use at least two independent sources.--&gt;
*{{source
|url        = https://www.imdb.com/name/nm16205724/bio/
|title      = Iman Khorshidi Biography
|author     = 
|pub        = IMDb
|date       = 
|archiveurl = 
}}
*{{source
|url        = https://www.aparat.com/v/unh924h
|title      = Iman Khorshidi's Language Skills
|author     = 
|pub        = Aparat
|date       = 
|archiveurl = 
}}
```

شما می‌توانید این متن را کپی کرده و در صفحه ویکی‌خبر خود پیست کنید. اگر نیاز به تغییرات یا اطلاعات بیشتری دارید، خوشحال می‌شوم کمک کنم!

منبع: مکالمه با Copilot، ۱۴۰۳/۸/۱۵
(1) خبر شبکه دو بیست و سی از رکوردشکنی ایمان خورشیدی. https://www.aparat.com/v/unh924h.
(2) رکوردهای گینس در زبان با ۲۳ زبان لهجه و گویش از آن ایمان خورشیدی بازیگر .... https://www.aparat.com/v/bvl28x3.
(3) ایمان خورشیدی - YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCn6TQnGfh0wbmYEz7YP8o-g.
(4) بازیگر نابغه - ویرگول. https://bing.com/search?q=%d8%a7%db%8c%d9%85%d8%a7%d9%86+%d8%ae%d9%88%d8%b1%d8%b4%db%8c%d8%af%db%8c+%d8%a8%d8%a7%d8%b2%db%8c%da%af%d8%b1+%d9%86%d8%a7%d8%a8%d8%ba%d9%87.  }}</text>
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{{  ایمان خورشیدی بازیگر نابغه ایرانی به طور شگفت‌انگیزی بر 112 زبان و گویش مختلف تسلط دارد. این زبان‌ها شامل انگلیسی، عربی، دری، پشتو، تاجیکی، ترکی قشقایی، ترکی آذری، لری، کردی و بسیاری دیگر می‌شود.

#### تسلط بر زبان‌ها و گویش‌ها
ایمان خورشیدی با تسلط بر 112 زبان و گویش، از جمله انگلیسی، عربی، دری، پشتو، تاجیکی، ترکی قشقایی، ترکی آذری، لری، کردی، و ده‌ها گویش دیگر، توانسته است نقش مهمی در توسعه مدل‌های زبانی هوش مصنوعی ایفا کند. او با تقلید صدای بسیاری از سلبریتی‌ها و شخصیت‌ها، از جمله عادل فردوسی‌پور، علی دایی، نصرالله مدقالچی، و مهران مدیری، توانسته است توجه بسیاری را جلب کند.

### زبان‌ها و گویش‌های بین‌المللی
1. **انگلیسی بریتانیا**
2. **انگلیسی استرالیا**
3. **انگلیسی ایالات متحده**
4. **انگلیسی کانادا**
5. **عربی عراقی**
6. **عربی شامی (سوریه)**
7. **عربی لبنانی**
8. **عربی عربستان سعودی**
9. **عربی امارات متحده عربی**
10. **عربی مصری**
11. **عربی یمنی**
12. **ترکی استانبولی**
13. **ترکی ترکمنستان**
14. **ترکی آذربایجان**
15. **کردی مرکزی**
16. **اردو (پاکستان و هند)**
17. **دری (افغانستان)**
18. **پشتو (افغانستان)**
19. **ازبکی (افغانستان و ازبکستان)**
20. **هندی (انگلیسی بریتانیایی)**
21. **ارمنی (ارمنستان)**
22. **تاجیکی (تاجیکستان)**
23. **گرجی (گرجستان)**

### زبان‌ها و گویش‌های داخلی ایران
1. **فارسی**:
   - گویش‌های مختلف مانند تهرانی، شیرازی، اصفهانی، مشهدی، یزدی، کرمانی، و غیره.
2. **ترکی قشقایی**
3. **ترکی آذری**
4. **لری**:
   - گویش‌های مختلف مانند بختیاری، بویراحمدی، ممسنی، و غیره.
5. **کردی**:
   - گویش‌های مختلف مانند کرمانجی، سورانی، کلهری، و غیره.
6. **گیلکی**
7. **مازندرانی**
8. **بلوچی**
9. **تالشی**
10. **ترکمنی**
11. **عربی خوزستانی**
12. **سیستانی**

#### همکاری با شرکت‌های بین‌المللی
مایکروسافت، سامسونگ، گوگل و چند پلتفرم فضای مجازی در قسمت صدا خواهان او هستند. شرکت سامسونگ اعلام کرده است که با آلبوم اول ایمان خورشیدی که &quot;سلطان عادل فردوسی‌پور&quot; نام دارد، همکاری خواهد کرد. مایکروسافت نیز گفته است که زبان‌ها و گویش‌های مختلفی که خورشیدی بر آن‌ها تسلط دارد، برای استفاده در ترجمه‌های متن به متن، متن به صدا، دوبله و صداگذاری در هوش مصنوعی گوگل مورد استفاده قرار می‌گیرد. این صداها ماشینی نیستند و ثبت شده‌اند تا از استفاده غیرقانونی توسط دیگران جلوگیری شود.

#### افتخارات و جوایز
ایمان خورشیدی به عنوان سفیر صلح و با تدریس به مدل‌های زبانی، به پیشرفت هوش مصنوعی مایکروسافت کمک می‌کند. او همچنین با شرکت در دوره‌های آنلاین و دوره‌های فضای ابری اطلاعات، مدل‌های ذهنی خود و مدل‌های GPT-4 را بارور می‌نماید.

== Sources ==
&lt;!--Use at least two independent sources.--&gt;
*{{source
|url        = https://www.imdb.com/name/nm16205724/bio/
|title      = Iman Khorshidi Biography
|author     = 
|pub        = IMDb
|date       = 
|archiveurl = 
}}
*{{source
|url        = https://www.aparat.com/v/unh924h
|title      = Iman Khorshidi's Language Skills
|author     = 
|pub        = Aparat
|date       = 
|archiveurl = 
}}
```

شما می‌توانید این متن را کپی کرده و در صفحه ویکی‌خبر خود پیست کنید. اگر نیاز به تغییرات یا اطلاعات بیشتری دارید، خوشحال می‌شوم کمک کنم!

منبع: مکالمه با Copilot، ۱۴۰۳/۸/۱۵
(1) خبر شبکه دو بیست و سی از رکوردشکنی ایمان خورشیدی. https://www.aparat.com/v/unh924h.
(2) رکوردهای گینس در زبان با ۲۳ زبان لهجه و گویش از آن ایمان خورشیدی بازیگر .... https://www.aparat.com/v/bvl28x3.
(3) ایمان خورشیدی - YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCn6TQnGfh0wbmYEz7YP8o-g.
(4) بازیگر نابغه - ویرگول. https://bing.com/search?q=%d8%a7%db%8c%d9%85%d8%a7%d9%86+%d8%ae%d9%88%d8%b1%d8%b4%db%8c%d8%af%db%8c+%d8%a8%d8%a7%d8%b2%db%8c%da%af%d8%b1+%d9%86%d8%a7%d8%a8%d8%ba%d9%87.  }}</text>
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On Monday, Russia is possibly sending incendary objects onto US and Canada planes, say Wall Street Journal.

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On Monday, Russia is possibly sending incendiary objects onto US and Canada planes, say Wall Street Journal.

{{haveyoursay}}

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{{date|November 4, 2024}} &lt;!--leave this as it is--&gt;

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{{date|November 4, 2024}} &lt;!--leave this as it is--&gt;

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-- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 02:19, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</text>
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-- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 02:20, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</text>
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-- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 06:26, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</text>
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-- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 07:15, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</text>
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'''RazzShell''' is an open-source, customized Unix shell developed by Raj Acharya. The shell is designed to offer a more intuitive, colorful, and visually engaging alternative to traditional Unix-like command-line interfaces such as Bash, Zsh, and Fish. It simplifies command-line interactions by renaming common Unix commands to more user-friendly names and incorporating color-coded outputs for easier readability. RazzShell aims to improve the user experience by providing an enhanced, beginner-friendly CLI (command-line interface) while retaining the full functionality expected by experienced users.

== Features ==
RazzShell introduces several unique features aimed at improving the usability of traditional Unix shells, including:

* **Simplified Commands**: Common Unix commands are renamed for easier comprehension. For example, `cd` becomes `change`, and `ls` becomes `list`.
* **Colorful Output**: Directory listings and error messages are color-coded, allowing users to quickly identify different types of files and system statuses.
* **Session Saving and Bookmarking**: Users can save their shell sessions and bookmark frequently used commands to increase workflow efficiency.
* **Built-in Commands**: RazzShell offers a range of built-in commands, such as `makedir` for creating directories and `cpuusage` for monitoring CPU usage.
* **External Program Support**: While RazzShell introduces its own set of commands, it can also execute traditional Unix commands and external programs, ensuring compatibility with existing tools and utilities.
* **Root Privilege Elevation**: Users can switch to a root shell (`sudo su`) without losing the customized environment of RazzShell, making system administration tasks easier.

== History ==
RazzShell was created by Raj Acharya, a developer with a passion for Linux, open-source software, and enhancing user experiences. The shell was initially developed to address the learning curve that often accompanies traditional Unix shells. Acharya wanted to make Unix command-line tools more approachable, especially for new users who might find the default shells intimidating or visually unappealing.

RazzShell was first released on October 28, 2024. The project is actively being improved based on feedback from early users, with plans for further enhancements and more built-in commands in future releases.

== Installation ==
RazzShell is available for any Unix-like operating system that supports the GCC compiler and the Readline library. It can be installed on popular distributions such as Ubuntu, Arch Linux, and macOS.

To install RazzShell on Arch Linux:

yay -S razzshell

yaml

For other Unix-like systems, you can follow the steps below:

1. Clone the repository:

git clone https://github.com/rajacharya987/razzshell.git

2. Navigate to the project directory:

cd razzshell

3. Compile the source code:

gcc -o razzshell razzshell.c -lreadline

4. Install RazzShell:

sudo cp razzshell /usr/local/bin/ sudo chmod +x /usr/local/bin/razzshell

Once installed, you can start RazzShell by typing `razzshell` in your terminal.

== Platforms ==
RazzShell is available on multiple platforms and can be downloaded from the following repositories:

* **GitHub**: [https://github.com/rajacharya987/razzshell](https://github.com/rajacharya987/razzshell)
* **SourceForge**: [https://sourceforge.net/projects/razzshell](https://sourceforge.net/projects/razzshell)
* **Launchpad**: [https://launchpad.net/razzshell](https://launchpad.net/razzshell)
* **Codeberg**: [https://codeberg.org/rajacharya0/razzshell](https://codeberg.org/rajacharya0/razzshell)
* **Bitbucket**: [https://bitbucket.org/rajacharya00/razzshell](https://bitbucket.org/rajacharya00/razzshell)
* **Arch Linux AUR**: [https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/razzshell](https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/razzshell)

== Reception ==
As of its first release, RazzShell has garnered positive feedback from early users who appreciate the simplicity and visual appeal it brings to the Unix shell environment. Its ease of use and colorful output make it particularly suitable for those new to Unix-like systems, while seasoned developers find value in the enhanced productivity features like session saving and bookmarking.

The project has been discussed on various online platforms, including:

* **Reddit**: [Introducing RazzShell on Reddit](https://www.reddit.com/user/Educational-Jelly646/comments/1gfcxur/razzshell_a_new_opensource_unix_shell_focused_on/)
* **Medium**: [Introducing RazzShell on Medium](https://medium.com/@tejeswar_79802/introducing-razzshell-a-customizable-unix-shell-for-modern-cli-users-f5bf3e4b5743)
* **Dev.to**: [Introducing RazzShell on Dev.to](https://dev.to/raj_acharya_00/introducing-razzshell-a-customizable-unix-shell-for-modern-cli-users-4nnd)
* **Hacker News**: [RazzShell Discussion on Hacker News](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41972606)

== External Links ==
* [https://razzshell.tech Official Website]
* [https://github.com/rajacharya987/razzshell GitHub Repository]
* [https://www.wiperspace.com Developer's Website]
* [https://www.linkedin.com/in/raj-acharya-70817b217/ LinkedIn Profile]
* [https://www.reddit.com/user/Educational-Jelly646/comments/1gfcxur/razzshell_a_new_opensource_unix_shell_focused_on/ Reddit Post on RazzShell]
* [https://medium.com/@tejeswar_79802/introducing-razzshell-a-customizable-unix-shell-for-modern-cli-users-f5bf3e4b5743 Medium Article on RazzShell]
* [https://sourceforge.net/projects/razzshell SourceForge Page]
* [https://dev.to/raj_acharya_00/introducing-razzshell-a-customizable-unix-shell-for-modern-cli-users-4nnd Dev.to Article]
* [https://codeberg.org/rajacharya0/razzshell Codeberg Repository]
* [https://launchpad.net/razzshell Launchpad Project]
* [https://bitbucket.org/rajacharya00/razzshell Bitbucket Repository]
* [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41972606 Hacker News Discussion]

== References ==
{{Cite web |url=https://github.com/rajacharya987/razzshell |title=RazzShell GitHub Repository |author=Raj Acharya |date=2024-10-28 |accessdate=2024-10-28}}
{{Cite web |url=https://razzshell.tech |title=Official Website of RazzShell |author=Raj Acharya |accessdate=2024-10-28}}
{{Cite web |url=https://www.wiperspace.com |title=Developer Website |author=Raj Acharya |accessdate=2024-10-28}}
{{Cite web |url=https://www.linkedin.com/in/raj-acharya-70817b217/ |title=Raj Acharya LinkedIn Profile |author=Raj Acharya |accessdate=2024-10-28}}
{{Cite web |url=https://www.reddit.com/user/Educational-Jelly646/comments/1gfcxur/razzshell_a_new_opensource_unix_shell_focused_on/ |title=RazzShell: A New OpenSource Unix Shell Focused on Enhancing the CLI Experience |author=Raj Acharya |accessdate=2024-10-28}}
{{Cite web |url=https://medium.com/@tejeswar_79802/introducing-razzshell-a-customizable-unix-shell-for-modern-cli-users-f5bf3e4b5743 |title=Introducing RazzShell: A Customizable Unix Shell for Modern CLI Users |author=Tejeswar |date=2024-10-28 |accessdate=2024-10-28}}
{{Cite web |url=https://sourceforge.net/projects/razzshell |title=RazzShell SourceForge Page |author=Raj Acharya |accessdate=2024-10-28}}
{{Cite web |url=https://dev.to/raj_acharya_00/introducing-razzshell-a-customizable-unix-shell-for-modern-cli-users-4nnd |title=Introducing RazzShell: A Customizable Unix Shell for Modern CLI Users |author=Raj Acharya |date=2024-10-28 |accessdate=2024-10-28}}
{{Cite web |url=https://codeberg.org/rajacharya0/razzshell |title=RazzShell on Codeberg |author=Raj Acharya |accessdate=2024-10-28}}
{{Cite web |url=https://launchpad.net/razzshell |title=RazzShell on Launchpad |author=Raj Acharya |accessdate=2024-10-28}}
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