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Experts Debate Feasibility in a World Facing Fossil Fuel Decline */ new section 4804274 wikitext text/x-wiki {{shortcut|[[WN:RA]]}} {{RA Archives}} {{Content requests}} {{/Header}} <!-- Begin Article Requests --> == After calling the PM's wife "corrupt," Spain expects an apology == '''{{date|May 22, 2024}}|{{subst:Wednesday, May 22, 2024}}}}''' '''Description:''' Following Argentina's president's claim that the Spanish prime minister's wife is "corrupt," Spain has requested a public apology. '''Full story:''' Following Argentina's president's claim that the Spanish prime minister's wife is "corrupt," Spain has requested a public apology. Javier Milei mentioned Begoña Gómez, the wife of Pedro Sánchez, the prime minister of Spain, at a far-right political gathering in Madrid without naming her. Last month, prosecutors demanded the dismissal of a preliminary investigation into Ms. Gómez on charges of corruption, claiming the accusations were unfounded. However, a minister in Argentina has insisted that Spain apologize for previous comments made regarding Mr. Milei, and the government has not offered an apology. Speaking in Madrid, Mr. Milei attacked "global elites," the perils of socialism, and "the type of people clinging to power and the level of abuse that generates." The event was hosted by Spain's far-right Vox party. "Let's say it gets dirty when you have a corrupt wife," Mr. Milei said in reference to Ms. Gómez. A Spanish court began a preliminary investigation into Ms. Gómez in April due to accusations of influence peddling made by an opposition party. The right-wing anti-corruption group that originated the claims has now admitted that they might not be true, but she has not been prosecuted with anything related to them. José Manuel Albares, Spain's foreign minister, called out Argentina's ambassador, claiming that Mr. Milei had denigrated Spain and its leader. He threatened to sever diplomatic ties between Spain and Argentina if no apology was given. But according to Argentina's Interior Minister Guillermo Francos, "there is no apology" and the Spanish government should take responsibility for the remarks made about Mr. Milei in the past. Following the election of the far-right government of Argentina, ties between the two nations have cooled, leading to this most recent diplomatic spat. A Spanish official made allegations earlier this month that the president of Argentina was a drug user. In retaliation, Mr. Milei denounced the "slander and insults" and criticized Pedro Sánchez, the socialist prime minister of Spain, for his policies. Mr. Milei has a history of altercations with foreign leaders. He has labeled Andrés Manuel López Obrador, the president of Mexico, as "ignorant" and Inacio Lula da Silva, the president of Brazil, as a "angry communist". '''Sources:''' *{{source|url=https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clee52y766jo|title=Spain demands apology after PM's wife called 'corrupt'|author=Tom McArthur|pub=|date=May 21, 2024}} '''Categories:''' [[:Category:Politics]] ==Claimed bootloader maintainer returns with overtalk to source file security concerns== {{Request|After 4 months of silence, a new social media account claimed to be the Ventoy maintainer, leading many to suspect he has been compromised by China|2={{original}} Not sure how stringent our anti-rumoring is, but the thread associated with https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/issues/2795#issuecomment-2408830395 is great cause for concern. [https://lemmy.ml/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=14359241 Moderators have deemed the account probably impersonation], and last actions in known accounts were on June 8: [https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/commit/cb209f9b9e02f3fb3a09a6e88d49bcef9f95511f] [https://forums.ventoy.net/search.php?action=results&sid=8a59b7593fe0f7c060dad07170eda28b]. The latter forum account also shows him visiting the site yesterday. In response to notorious XZ utils backdoor with HongKonger Jia Tan discovered 6 months earlier, members found that Ventoy had open-source but compiled submodules within and asked for them to be normal submodules. Two days ago, the Lemmy account was created and issued a statement that showed no understanding whatsoever of the issue and just blabbered.|13=Science and Technology}} == DOJ transparency == '''{{#time:F j, Y|20241016083310}}''' '''Description:''' [[Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Computing#Bitcoin_friendlies_needed]] [[Wikipedia:Talk:CNBC#2024_AFF_Bitcoin_Coverup]] '''Full story:''' as above '''Sources:''' *{{source|url=https://bravenewcoin.com/insights/u-s-governments-2-billion-bitcoin-move-sparks-market-dump|title=U.S. Government’s $2 Billion Bitcoin Move Sparks Market Dump|author=Arkham Intelligence|pub=Bravenewcoin|date=July 31, 2024}} '''Categories:''' [[:Category:Stock market]] == Are We Ready for Relocalization? Experts Debate Feasibility in a World Facing Fossil Fuel Decline == '''{{#time:F j, Y|20241108203924}}''' In an article published on the blog un-Denial, authors who go by the pseudonyms “Kira” and “Hideaway” present a sobering analysis of the idea of “relocalization”—a return to local production, energy, and resources—as a solution to the pressing issue of dwindling fossil fuel supplies. While relocalization is often promoted as a sustainable response to global supply chain fragility, these authors argue that the concept may not be viable for large populations. They point to the interdependence of today’s economies, the scale of modern industries, and society’s reliance on fossil fuels as barriers to achieving meaningful local self-sufficiency. === The Promise and Peril of Relocalization === Relocalization advocates believe that communities can survive by localizing production and creating goods close to home to reduce reliance on imported resources. This concept gained traction in the 2000s and 2010s, especially among environmentalists, as awareness of climate change and fossil fuel depletion grew. However, Hideaway, one of the authors, argues that such a model may fail on a large scale due to the unique complexities and economies of scale that sustain current industries and cities. The infrastructure that supports modern life—from global trade networks to massive agricultural operations—depends on centralized production and vast supply chains that span continents. Hideaway contends that many proponents of relocalization overlook the deep dependencies within our modern systems. Cities, for example, rely on intricate supply chains to ensure everything from food to electronics reaches consumers. “To simplify everything by producing it locally may sound appealing,” Hideaway writes, “but that would demand a radical restructuring of the way cities function.” He argues that smaller, isolated production systems would likely be more resource- and energy-intensive, leading to inefficiencies and economic strain on already strained systems. === Diesel Dependency: Why It’s More Crucial Than We Think === A central point in Kira and Hideaway’s analysis is the role of diesel fuel in powering the machinery essential for agriculture, mining, and logistics. Diesel powers tractors, harvesters, and trucks that are central to modern food production and distribution. The authors introduce a new concept, “Diesel Return on Diesel Invested” (DRODI), which examines the ratio of diesel input to output in various sectors. They argue that DRODI is a more realistic metric than traditional energy return on investment (EROEI) because diesel directly sustains essential industries. The authors warn that without sufficient diesel, even small-scale farms and localized production could falter, leading to reduced food supplies and economic hardship. This diesel dependency, they claim, makes transitioning to a low-energy economy more challenging than many anticipate. Hideaway explains that in a world where diesel is scarce, “the very infrastructure needed for relocalization efforts might be hard to maintain,” leaving communities without the machinery required to meet even basic needs. === Complex Economies, Global Dependencies, and the Need for Scale === Rob Mielcarski, the blog’s editor, adds another layer to this debate, drawing on insights from Simon Michaux, an industrial analyst who emphasizes the significance of scale and complexity in modern industry. Mielcarski argues that today's industrial and technological systems are intricately linked to large markets that enable economies of scale—where the cost per unit of production decreases as output increases. This principle is crucial for keeping industries like semiconductors, automotive manufacturing, and electronics profitable and affordable. Mielcarski illustrates this with the example of Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC), which produces advanced computer chips used worldwide. These chips are manufactured in highly specialized facilities that serve a global customer base. “Without this scale,” Mielcarski argues, “duplicating facilities like TSMC’s on a small scale for each region would be financially impossible.” This lack of scalability, he suggests, is a key reason why relocalization at a global level is unlikely to maintain the same level of technological sophistication and industrial output as today’s globalized systems. === The Role of Fossil Fuels in Renewable Infrastructure === Kira, Hideaway, and Mielcarski contend that renewable energy sources, often seen as the solution to fossil fuel decline, are themselves dependent on fossil fuels. Although solar, wind, and hydroelectric power are touted as sustainable alternatives, building, transporting, and maintaining renewable infrastructure require significant fossil fuel inputs. Mining the minerals for solar panels, manufacturing the turbines for wind power, and processing materials for hydroelectric dams all depend on oil, coal, and natural gas. The authors highlight that as fossil fuel supplies diminish, renewable energy systems will likely struggle to expand, and existing infrastructure may fall into disrepair. This reliance on fossil fuels creates what Mielcarski describes as a “catch-22” situation: society needs fossil fuels to build renewable energy capacity, but as fossil fuels become scarcer, expanding or even maintaining this capacity becomes increasingly difficult. This dependency further complicates the relocalization process, as it shows that transitioning to local systems is not just a matter of willpower but also one of resource availability. === Economic Contraction and the “Death Spiral” Effect === The analysis introduces the concept of an economic “Death Spiral,” in which declining energy availability triggers industry contraction, leading to widespread corporate failures and job losses. Citing Tim Watkins, Kira notes that many industries depend on a “critical mass” of customers to remain profitable. As fossil fuel depletion forces downsizing and cuts off the profitability of many businesses, entire sectors may face collapse. The government may attempt to prioritize essential sectors like agriculture, but Watkins argues that this prioritization will leave many other industries to fail. This contraction, the authors argue, will ultimately undermine relocalization efforts as well. While proponents of local economies hope to achieve resilience through self-sufficiency, Kira and Hideaway believe that rising production costs, lack of resources, and technological limitations will make it difficult for localized industries to survive. The ability to produce high-tech goods, like electronics or modern medical equipment, may decline, leaving communities with limited access to goods and services previously available only through global trade networks. === What Does This Mean for Our Future? === The authors predict that fossil fuel decline will lead to inevitable simplification and economic hardship. Relocalization, while a potential strategy to reduce reliance on global trade, is unlikely to provide the level of sustainability that some advocates imagine. Kira, Hideaway, and Mielcarski argue that future societies will likely need to adapt to significantly lower standards of living, as the infrastructure and resources that support high-density, modern living may be unsustainable without extensive fossil fuel use. The authors encourage readers to be realistic about what relocalization can achieve. They warn that societies must be prepared for a world in which maintaining current lifestyles may not be feasible. Rather than viewing relocalization as a panacea, they argue that the focus should be on building resilience within existing communities, preparing for a future where economic contraction and simplification are unavoidable. Ultimately, Kira, Hideaway, and Mielcarski’s analysis challenges the notion that relocalization is an easy solution to the fossil fuel crisis. They argue that understanding the scale, complexity, and dependency of modern economies is crucial to navigating a future that will require difficult trade-offs. {{haveyoursay}} ===Sources=== *{{source|url=https://un-denial.com/2024/09/14/by-kira-hideaway-on-relocalization/|title=On Relocalization|author=Rob Mielcarski|pub=un-Denial|date=September 14, 2024}} [[Category:Orginal reporting]] 8u68ei9uhy0lvpuggxyljuxayak31qx 4804280 4804274 2024-11-08T21:57:27Z Koavf 5879 Undo revision [[Special:Diff/4804274|4804274]] by [[Special:Contributions/2001:1388:660:FB41:EC6A:561B:9BC8:5141|2001:1388:660:FB41:EC6A:561B:9BC8:5141]] ([[User talk:2001:1388:660:FB41:EC6A:561B:9BC8:5141|talk]]) This is just copy/pasting someone else's opinion piece. 4804280 wikitext text/x-wiki {{shortcut|[[WN:RA]]}} {{RA Archives}} {{Content requests}} {{/Header}} <!-- Begin Article Requests --> == After calling the PM's wife "corrupt," Spain expects an apology == '''{{date|May 22, 2024}}|{{subst:Wednesday, May 22, 2024}}}}''' '''Description:''' Following Argentina's president's claim that the Spanish prime minister's wife is "corrupt," Spain has requested a public apology. '''Full story:''' Following Argentina's president's claim that the Spanish prime minister's wife is "corrupt," Spain has requested a public apology. Javier Milei mentioned Begoña Gómez, the wife of Pedro Sánchez, the prime minister of Spain, at a far-right political gathering in Madrid without naming her. Last month, prosecutors demanded the dismissal of a preliminary investigation into Ms. Gómez on charges of corruption, claiming the accusations were unfounded. However, a minister in Argentina has insisted that Spain apologize for previous comments made regarding Mr. Milei, and the government has not offered an apology. Speaking in Madrid, Mr. Milei attacked "global elites," the perils of socialism, and "the type of people clinging to power and the level of abuse that generates." The event was hosted by Spain's far-right Vox party. "Let's say it gets dirty when you have a corrupt wife," Mr. Milei said in reference to Ms. Gómez. A Spanish court began a preliminary investigation into Ms. Gómez in April due to accusations of influence peddling made by an opposition party. The right-wing anti-corruption group that originated the claims has now admitted that they might not be true, but she has not been prosecuted with anything related to them. José Manuel Albares, Spain's foreign minister, called out Argentina's ambassador, claiming that Mr. Milei had denigrated Spain and its leader. He threatened to sever diplomatic ties between Spain and Argentina if no apology was given. But according to Argentina's Interior Minister Guillermo Francos, "there is no apology" and the Spanish government should take responsibility for the remarks made about Mr. Milei in the past. Following the election of the far-right government of Argentina, ties between the two nations have cooled, leading to this most recent diplomatic spat. A Spanish official made allegations earlier this month that the president of Argentina was a drug user. In retaliation, Mr. Milei denounced the "slander and insults" and criticized Pedro Sánchez, the socialist prime minister of Spain, for his policies. Mr. Milei has a history of altercations with foreign leaders. He has labeled Andrés Manuel López Obrador, the president of Mexico, as "ignorant" and Inacio Lula da Silva, the president of Brazil, as a "angry communist". '''Sources:''' *{{source|url=https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clee52y766jo|title=Spain demands apology after PM's wife called 'corrupt'|author=Tom McArthur|pub=|date=May 21, 2024}} '''Categories:''' [[:Category:Politics]] ==Claimed bootloader maintainer returns with overtalk to source file security concerns== {{Request|After 4 months of silence, a new social media account claimed to be the Ventoy maintainer, leading many to suspect he has been compromised by China|2={{original}} Not sure how stringent our anti-rumoring is, but the thread associated with https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/issues/2795#issuecomment-2408830395 is great cause for concern. [https://lemmy.ml/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=14359241 Moderators have deemed the account probably impersonation], and last actions in known accounts were on June 8: [https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/commit/cb209f9b9e02f3fb3a09a6e88d49bcef9f95511f] [https://forums.ventoy.net/search.php?action=results&sid=8a59b7593fe0f7c060dad07170eda28b]. The latter forum account also shows him visiting the site yesterday. In response to notorious XZ utils backdoor with HongKonger Jia Tan discovered 6 months earlier, members found that Ventoy had open-source but compiled submodules within and asked for them to be normal submodules. Two days ago, the Lemmy account was created and issued a statement that showed no understanding whatsoever of the issue and just blabbered.|13=Science and Technology}} == DOJ transparency == '''{{#time:F j, Y|20241016083310}}''' '''Description:''' [[Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Computing#Bitcoin_friendlies_needed]] [[Wikipedia:Talk:CNBC#2024_AFF_Bitcoin_Coverup]] '''Full story:''' as above '''Sources:''' *{{source|url=https://bravenewcoin.com/insights/u-s-governments-2-billion-bitcoin-move-sparks-market-dump|title=U.S. Government’s $2 Billion Bitcoin Move Sparks Market Dump|author=Arkham Intelligence|pub=Bravenewcoin|date=July 31, 2024}} '''Categories:''' [[:Category:Stock market]] a9riatalvkpyu3xvr95zf4ri4etxpb1 Template:Stock Market data 10 113527 4804245 4804215 2024-11-08T12:00:41Z BOT-Superzerocool 18821 Bot: Update Market Data [[:es:User Talk:Superzerocool|Comments (es.wikinews)]] 4804245 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Stock Markets | date = 08 November, 2024 | hour= 12:00 | extrainfo= {{{extrainfo|}}} | align = {{{align}}} | width= {{{width|{{#if:{{{width|}}}|50%|35%}}}}}} | country= {{{country}}} | IBEX 35 = 11582.90 | IBEX 35-c = 12.80 | IBEX 35-p = 0.11 | IBEX 35-tl = {{profit}} | FTSE 100 = 8069.34 | FTSE 100-c = -71.40 | FTSE 100-p = -0.88 | FTSE 100-tl = {{loss}} | DAX = 19225.08 | DAX-c = -137.44 | DAX-p = -0.71 | DAX-tl = {{loss}} | SMI = 11816.78 | SMI-c = -100.22 | SMI-p = -0.84 | SMI-tl = {{loss}} | AEX = 873.83 | AEX-c = -4.71 | AEX-p = -0.54 | AEX-tl = {{loss}} | BEL20 = 4277.70 | BEL20-c = 6.03 | BEL20-p = 0.14 | BEL20-tl = {{profit}} | OMX Stockholm 30 = 2557.77 | OMX Stockholm 30-c = 4.64 | OMX Stockholm 30-p = 0.18 | OMX Stockholm 30-tl = {{profit}} | Nasdaq = 19269.46 | Nasdaq-c = 285.99 | Nasdaq-p = 1.51 | Nasdaq-tl = {{profit}} | S&P 500 = 5973.10 | S&P 500-c = 44.06 | S&P 500-p = 0.74 | S&P 500-tl = {{profit}} | Bovespa = 129681.70 | Bovespa-c = -659.22 | Bovespa-p = -0.51 | Bovespa-tl = {{loss}} | All Ordinaries = 8552.60 | All Ordinaries-c = 71.00 | All Ordinaries-p = 0.84 | All Ordinaries-tl = {{profit}} | Nikkei = 39500.37 | Nikkei-c = 118.96 | Nikkei-p = 0.30 | Nikkei-tl = {{profit}} | Hang Seng = 20728.19 | Hang Seng-c = -225.15 | Hang Seng-p = -1.07 | Hang Seng-tl = {{loss}} | BSE Sensex = 79486.32 | BSE Sensex-c = -55.47 | BSE Sensex-p = -0.07 | BSE Sensex-tl = {{loss}} | IDX Composite = 7287.19 | IDX Composite-c = 43.33 | IDX Composite-p = 0.60 | IDX Composite-tl = {{profit}} }}<noinclude>{{clear}}{{documentation}}</noinclude> tmiojenen1g347ks79xx4g2l4s04p9w User talk:Faithful27 3 880580 4804306 2090801 2024-11-09T08:27:39Z Cabayi 26654 Cabayi moved page [[User talk:Timtom27]] to [[User talk:Faithful27]]: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "[[Special:CentralAuth/Timtom27|Timtom27]]" to "[[Special:CentralAuth/Faithful27|Faithful27]]" 2090801 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Timtom27}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 12:14, 25 October 2013 (UTC) 721cd7psmwvbcra8f7klia0nio1t3vh User talk:JJAdamson 3 1753085 4804275 3047227 2024-11-08T20:39:45Z Ternarius 359942 Ternarius moved page [[User talk:Trashbird1240]] to [[User talk:JJAdamson]]: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "[[Special:CentralAuth/Trashbird1240|Trashbird1240]]" to "[[Special:CentralAuth/JJAdamson|JJAdamson]]" 3047227 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Trashbird1240}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 19:27, 21 November 2014 (UTC) mle0rxaey94t37ujhwsubh18rcsqti1 User talk:Michael.C.Wright 3 1962252 4804256 4804047 2024-11-08T15:02:21Z Revibot I 1627724 Bot: Archiving 3 threads (older than 30 days) to [[User talk:Michael.C.Wright/Archive 1]] 4804256 wikitext text/x-wiki <!--{{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Michael.C.Wright}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 01:53, 2 March 2015 (UTC)--> {{box|It is approximately 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|counter = 1 |maxarchivesize = 192K |minthreadstoarchive = 1 |minthreadsleft = 0 |archiveheader = {{talkarchivenav}} }} == Corrections == Hi. You probably saw the debacle with the pager explosions story that warranted a correction. I found one of the problems there &mdash; inaccuracy in dates &mdash; to also be present in the article on Ryan Routh's superseding indictment. In both cases, it seems likely you missed converting relative to cardinal dates. So please be more careful about this immediately pre-publication in the future. Both were also missing some important cats; the Tips on reviewing articles checklist prompts the reviewer on this. If you add a cat for a country, you have to add the relevant news region cat(s) as well; so [[:Category:Hungary]] needs to be accompanied by [[:Category:Europe]]. I have a habit of writing headlines that are too long, but if I were you, I would've added altered the headline to something a bit more unique (e.g. "golf course attempted assassination"). [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 23:39, 4 October 2024 (UTC) :Yes, I will pay closer attention to date conversions. I should have caught that. :That's one aspect that the pre-review process can't include so I'm unfortunately not in the habit of checking it. This is a good reason to have an active and seasoned reviewer on hand to address these things either before hand or within the 24-hour grace period immediately afterwords—so corrections aren't necessary. I'm not saying it was anyone else's fault, just that it would help new reviewers if we had some sort of a transition/training period for them. :Regarding the requirement for two geographical categories, I don't see that in [[Wikinews:Tips on reviewing articles]] or [[Wikinews:Reviewing articles]]. Tips says "At least one geographical category..." Am I missing something? :Also, how do you update the five lead templates? Do you normally do it manually—one at a time—or is there a widget/gadget/javascript page you use to move them? :Thanks as always for the help. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:47, 5 October 2024 (UTC) ::"it would help new reviewers if we had some sort of a transition/training period for them": Yeah, absolutely. I think it could've helped me a lot when I was new too. In the past, experienced reviewers would meet on IRC once or twice with a reviewer candidate or prospective candidate to co-review an article, perhaps with the newbie demonstrating how they would review the article, making edits on-wiki; the experienced reviewer could offer corrections and evaluate their readiness. ::That minimum requirement is accurate, although I can't think of a situation where a country cat wouldn't be needed. All I'm saying is when you do use a cat on an article, its parent cats need to be used as well. ::Oh, yeah, [[Wikinews:Make lead]] is the JS tool. I tend to use it except when I need to use the edit summary to explain the rationale for my editing or switching around leads others put on the Main Page. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 21:49, 9 October 2024 (UTC) == live chat == Hi, I would like to provide you with access to my [[:w:Quassel Core]] so that you can access IRC continuously. You will need to '''install a 'Quassel Client'''' (no Core) from the http://www.quassel-irc.org web site. When this is done, and when you connect to IRC next time, please '''send me a private message''' to nick 'gry' while logged in; I will provide you the login details. I consider this relatively urgent as new articles may die when people work on them asynchronously. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:31, 20 October 2024 (UTC) :Correction: the url is [[:w:Quassel IRC]]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:32, 20 October 2024 (UTC) == Headline verb tense tip == Hi Michael C. Wright Tip: news headlines are in present tense. E.g. [[Bruce Lehrmann judge said to have no links to published book of judgement]] FYI. I don't think any action or correction is required on this page (unless it's less than 24 hours and you dig up a policy that allows change). Regards, [[File:Smiley.svg|20px]] [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:22, 23 October 2024 (UTC) :Agreed. I wanted to change the headline because Lehrmann is not the main focus and using his name to identify the judge could be misleading/confusing. I didn't, but I should have. :It's been over 24 hours since it was published, so we're stuck with it, unfortunately. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:41, 23 October 2024 (UTC) == resubmitted == I've resubmitted story about Qantas for your review. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:24, 23 October 2024 (UTC) == Can you review == Can you review my UK Tory leader page? [[User:CSMention269|CSM.in]] ([[User talk:CSMention269|talk]]) 14:44, 2 November 2024 (UTC) :I may not have time today to review any articles but I'll see what I can do. Fingers crossed. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:11, 2 November 2024 (UTC) == Israel confirms death of Hamas leader in Gaza == [[Israel confirms death of Hamas leader in Gaza]] it's not that it was abandoned, I did make the corresponding improvements but you wanted it to be eliminated and that's it, but I'm telling you something that you would love. HERE I WILL NOT CREATE ANYTHING AGAIN? thank you. [[User:Pitille02|Pitille02]] ([[User talk:Pitille02|talk]]) 05:25, 6 November 2024 (UTC) :I appreciate the effort you put into the article and the improvements you made. My feedback was intended to help bring it up to en.Wikinews standards, which can be challenging, especially on a first attempt. Thank you for your contributions. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:00, 6 November 2024 (UTC) 0vsa9mqj0mi0x4mj38a42lr623wzufj 4804290 4804256 2024-11-09T03:01:47Z Revibot I 1627724 Bot: Archiving 1 thread (older than 30 days) to [[User talk:Michael.C.Wright/Archive 1]] 4804290 wikitext text/x-wiki <!--{{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Michael.C.Wright}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 01:53, 2 March 2015 (UTC)--> {{box|It is approximately '''{{#time:g:i A,|{{CURRENTHOUR}}:{{CURRENTMINUTE}} {{#expr: {{#ifexpr: {{#expr: ({{CURRENTMONTH}} > {{{startmonth|3}}} {{#ifexpr: {{#expr: {{{startmonth|3}}} > {{{endmonth|11}}}}}| or | and }} {{CURRENTMONTH}} < {{{endmonth|11}}}) or ({{CURRENTMONTH}} = {{{startmonth|3}}} and {{CURRENTDAY}} >= {{{startday|10}}}) or ({{CURRENTMONTH}} = {{{endmonth|11}}} and {{CURRENTDAY}} < {{{endday|3}}})}} | {{{dst|-7}}} | {{{st|-8}}}}}*60}} minutes}} {{#ifexpr: {{#expr: ({{CURRENTMONTH}} > {{{startmonth|3}}} {{#ifexpr: {{#expr: {{{startmonth|3}}} > {{{endmonth|11}}}}}| or | and }} {{CURRENTMONTH}} < {{{endmonth|11}}}) or ({{CURRENTMONTH}} = {{{startmonth|3}}} and {{CURRENTDAY}} >= {{{startday|10}}}) or ({{CURRENTMONTH}} = {{{endmonth|11}}} and {{CURRENTDAY}} < {{{endday|3}}})}} | PDT | PST }}''' where this user lives. {{purge|Refresh}} <BR><BR>Archives: [[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright/Archive_1|1]]}}<BR> {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = User talk:Michael.C.Wright/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(30d) |counter = 1 |maxarchivesize = 192K |minthreadstoarchive = 1 |minthreadsleft = 0 |archiveheader = {{talkarchivenav}} }} == live chat == Hi, I would like to provide you with access to my [[:w:Quassel Core]] so that you can access IRC continuously. You will need to '''install a 'Quassel Client'''' (no Core) from the http://www.quassel-irc.org web site. When this is done, and when you connect to IRC next time, please '''send me a private message''' to nick 'gry' while logged in; I will provide you the login details. I consider this relatively urgent as new articles may die when people work on them asynchronously. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:31, 20 October 2024 (UTC) :Correction: the url is [[:w:Quassel IRC]]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:32, 20 October 2024 (UTC) == Headline verb tense tip == Hi Michael C. Wright Tip: news headlines are in present tense. E.g. [[Bruce Lehrmann judge said to have no links to published book of judgement]] FYI. I don't think any action or correction is required on this page (unless it's less than 24 hours and you dig up a policy that allows change). Regards, [[File:Smiley.svg|20px]] [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:22, 23 October 2024 (UTC) :Agreed. I wanted to change the headline because Lehrmann is not the main focus and using his name to identify the judge could be misleading/confusing. I didn't, but I should have. :It's been over 24 hours since it was published, so we're stuck with it, unfortunately. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:41, 23 October 2024 (UTC) == resubmitted == I've resubmitted story about Qantas for your review. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:24, 23 October 2024 (UTC) == Can you review == Can you review my UK Tory leader page? [[User:CSMention269|CSM.in]] ([[User talk:CSMention269|talk]]) 14:44, 2 November 2024 (UTC) :I may not have time today to review any articles but I'll see what I can do. Fingers crossed. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:11, 2 November 2024 (UTC) == Israel confirms death of Hamas leader in Gaza == [[Israel confirms death of Hamas leader in Gaza]] it's not that it was abandoned, I did make the corresponding improvements but you wanted it to be eliminated and that's it, but I'm telling you something that you would love. HERE I WILL NOT CREATE ANYTHING AGAIN? thank you. [[User:Pitille02|Pitille02]] ([[User talk:Pitille02|talk]]) 05:25, 6 November 2024 (UTC) :I appreciate the effort you put into the article and the improvements you made. My feedback was intended to help bring it up to en.Wikinews standards, which can be challenging, especially on a first attempt. Thank you for your contributions. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:00, 6 November 2024 (UTC) 2dtt5p948lfckiz6jo736gupm5zwdtz User talk:Renamed user 91cc490997a4afec3d92995ccc1ae92d 3 2831610 4804283 4372725 2024-11-09T00:15:42Z Eta Carinae 626088 Eta Carinae moved page [[User talk:Zlojicanel08]] to [[User talk:Renamed user 91cc490997a4afec3d92995ccc1ae92d]] without leaving a redirect: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "[[Special:CentralAuth/Zlojicanel08|Zlojicanel08]]" to "[[Special:CentralAuth/Renamed user 91cc490997a4afec3d92995ccc1ae92d|Renamed user 91cc490997a4afec3d92995ccc1ae92d]]" 4372725 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Zlojicanel08}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 17:01, 30 December 2017 (UTC) trkatt5alcvie9rj2enubd4urou6nz6 User talk:Cromium/Archive 6 3 2947185 4804253 4802814 2024-11-08T15:01:51Z Revibot I 1627724 Bot: Archiving 1 thread from [[User talk:Cromium]] 4804253 wikitext text/x-wiki ― == Wikisource == [[:Wikisource]] kept getting recreated by vandals, so I turned it into a protected soft redirect. Thoughts? Also, in [[:Category:Review]], there are two templates awaiting someone to sight them. One was edited by me and the other I think you are better qualified to check. Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 21:01, 31 March 2022 (UTC) :Protecting that page makes sense. The alternative is to delete it and protect it do only admins can create it. However, it is also linked from several pages including an article, which is fine. I’ve reviewed those two templates. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 21:51, 31 March 2022 (UTC) == Horror film == Dear friend I have a request for you for the article horror film on Wikipedia can you restore the 2010s section and the 2020s section on there? [[Special:Contributions/152.86.164.35|152.86.164.35]] ([[User talk:152.86.164.35|talk]]) 19:27, 5 April 2022 (UTC) :Some sort of troll. Making the same request to multiple others. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 20:44, 5 April 2022 (UTC) {{Clear}} == Speedy == There are a few items in [[:Category:Speedy deletion]] which I thought I'd leave for you to evaluate. Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 14:28, 13 April 2022 (UTC) :Just a reminder, those items are still sitting in speedy. Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 18:22, 23 April 2022 (UTC) ::Oops. Deleted (although probably should have been in DR I guess). Cheers. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 20:44, 23 April 2022 (UTC) :::True, that. But DR has become a multi-year process and I didn't nominate these. Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 21:13, 23 April 2022 (UTC) {{Clear}} == Unblock? == You [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=3949919 unblocked] without an on-wiki appeal. User seems to abuse the privilege. I have to delete the pages they created. Is there a back-story? --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 00:27, 24 April 2022 (UTC) :Specifically at [[Ltshivampandey]] which will be deleted by the time you see this. --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 00:29, 24 April 2022 (UTC) ::My mistake. They appeared to have [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ALieutenant_Shivam_Pandey&type=revision&diff=4674887&oldid=4674879 appealed] on their talk page. Their English isn’t great but I got the sense it was someone who didn’t understand that this isn’t Wikipedia. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 09:33, 24 April 2022 (UTC) {{Clear}} == High numbers of unexplained Heptitis cases reported in very young children == Hi Cromium, Thank you for help you extended to me when this article was still in my user space. I did not know how to move the article into the newsroom other than by a copy& paste, which unfortunately does not maintain the contribution history, which I would have preferred. Cheers, [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 21:54, 8 May 2022 (UTC) :{{re|Ottawahitech}} No problem. Thank you for starting this interesting article. I’ve merged your user-subpage into the main-space page. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 23:18, 8 May 2022 (UTC) {{Clear}} == Thanks for nominating JJLiu112 to be reviewer == Hi, in January this year I missed the nomination and discussion process. Completely appreciate your nomination and the help to them with the getting started. Thanks!!! --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:34, 2 June 2022 (UTC) {{Clear}} == July 2022 == I submitted an article for a review 3 days ago I don't know much about article writing though but I'm very concerned about the reviewers because article's stay for long without being reviewed I don't know if it's because the reviewers are inactive or it takes long for an article to be reviewed? [[User:Emkay2004|Emkay2004]] ([[User talk:Emkay2004|talk]]) 15:08, 4 July 2022 (UTC) :{{re|Emkay2004}} Thank you for the article and sorry for the delay in reviewing. Unfortunately, it has passed it’s [[:WN:FRESH|freshness]]. I’ve left a short review on the article talkpage. Sadly this wiki has been in decline for some time now. There are various reasons for this but primarily I think we are all short of spare time. Certainly I can barely devote more than a few minutes a day often. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 20:07, 4 July 2022 (UTC) {{Clear}} == I went to the best party ever... == ...and you weren't there. You missed out on something awesome. The night life in Germany is amazing.-[[User:Late 1980s night lifer|Late 1980s night lifer]] ([[User talk:Late 1980s night lifer|talk]]) 22:02, 5 July 2022 (UTC) {{Clear}} == 2 New articles == Recently I put up the following two articles up for review:<br> https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/2022_Fields_Medals_awarded<br> https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Former_Japanese_Prime_Minister_Shinzo_Abe_assassinated<br> I ask you to kindly review them, seeing as there is virtually no activity on enWN. And also, if you feel it appropriate, for the autochecked user group to be assigned to my account. [[User:MxYamato|MxYamato]] ([[User talk:MxYamato|talk]]) 12:52, 8 July 2022 (UTC) == Hi == I started the SAPS article, just wondering if it's almost ready for a review? Thanks. [[User:Barty03|Barty03]] ([[User talk:Barty03|talk]]) 12:24, 31 August 2022 (UTC) == Abuse filter == Hi, do you know why the phrase "my name is" is a disallowed phrase on user pages? See: [[Special:AbuseFilter/22]] ... Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 12:41, 15 September 2022 (UTC) :{{re|SVTCobra}} I believe it was included because it appeared to be part of the formula used by some spambots. Their user pages usually gave an introductory "hey, my name is…" followed by a location, a hobby and then a link to a commercial website (the latter being the real purpose of the Userpage). I’m guessing that User:BKMoqubane hit at least two of those requirements when they tried to create their Userpage. Since they seem to be a genuine person (most spambots don’t respond to the abuse filter), I’d suggest either creating the page for them or recommending they wait to become autoconfirmed in four or five days. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 19:19, 15 September 2022 (UTC) == {{tl|Bots}} == Hi. What do you make of these two users and their use of {{tl|bots}}? [[:User:梯隊快報]] and [[:User:悠遊卡]]. Cheers, [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 13:11, 17 October 2022 (UTC) == Staleness change: temporary or permanent? == The trial is over, so would the [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews%3ANewsworthiness&type=revision&diff=4682804&oldid=4648890 change] remain as-is or be reverted back to what it was before the trial? [[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 20:51, 23 October 2022 (UTC) {{Clear}} == Inder Shergill == Could you also salt that, please? It's been recreated a few times now and is a title that will never need to be legitimately used. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 18:09, 12 January 2023 (UTC) :Normally I wait for a third creation because it confirms the situation. However, I agree with your reasoning here. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 18:23, 12 January 2023 (UTC) ::Also, would you happen to have the time to review [[US House of Representatives forms subcommittee on "the Weaponization of the Federal Government"]]? It's OR and has been sitting around a couple days, so I really don't want it to go stale. Thanks! --[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 19:05, 12 January 2023 (UTC) == [[Wikinews:Writing contest 2023]] == Hello. We've created [[Wikinews:Writing contest 2023]], which will start on February 1 and end on May 1. It is modeled on the successful 2010 and 2013 contests. As a reviewer who has recently been inactive, it would be a great time for you to rejoin. If you are interested in signing up, please do so at [[Wikinews:Writing contest 2023#Entrants]] and [[Wikinews:Writing contest 2023#Point scoring|create a category for the articles you submit]]. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 04:03, 27 January 2023 (UTC) == Thanks == Thanks for being around to mop up. The speedy deletion queue has been out-of-control for weeks, and none had been performed in a week. FYI, SVTCobra (who is busy in real life) generally protects categories at edit=autoconfirmed and move=sysop, especially if an LTA such as that targets them. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 17:50, 20 July 2023 (UTC) :Oh, also, could you take a look at [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=4016185 this]? A global rollbacker flagged it as a potential mismatch. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 19:43, 20 July 2023 (UTC) ::Done. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 14:06, 23 July 2023 (UTC) Thanks also for mopping up after that IP vandal. [[User:Yngvadottir|Yngvadottir]] ([[User talk:Yngvadottir|talk]]) 22:27, 24 July 2023 (UTC) == Nice to see you around == Hi {{PAGENAME}}, I am glad to see you continue to be semi-active. Take care [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 17:35, 7 November 2023 (UTC) == social media (cross-posted to all members of reviewer group) == Hi, [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous#social_media_for_reviewers_and_authors_and_developers]] may be of interest to you as a reviewer, thanks and regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:53, 12 December 2023 (UTC) == Resurrected?? == Any chance of you stepping back in at Wikinews?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:18, 20 March 2024 (UTC) :Any chance at all??--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:22, 1 April 2024 (UTC) == You have email == I just sent you an email via the "Email this user" function here at Wikinews. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:10, 23 April 2024 (UTC) == CU Request == I have posted [[Wikinews:Requests_for_CheckUser#Suspected_lock_evasion|a new request for CheckUser]]. Thanks, [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:12, 16 May 2024 (UTC) == Bureaucrat == I wish to re-assume this role. Can you make that happen?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 22:40, 24 May 2024 (UTC) :(Not the user but...) Cromium has not edited here in more than 7 months, and hasn't made a reasonable amounts of edits in nearly 9. Nothing anywhere in 2 months. I doubt you'll recieve a response any time soon. {{ping|Bddpaux}}[[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 23:19, 24 May 2024 (UTC) ::{{ping|Bddpaux}} So much for retirement! You'll need a formal request at WN:RFP. We can fast-track it if at least a couple of regulars agree. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 07:55, 25 May 2024 (UTC) == Request to desysop TUFKAAP == Hey there. You're still a bureaucrat, huh? I hope you review this ASAP: [[Wikinews:Requests for permissions/Removal/TUFKAAP]]. [[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 04:08, 25 May 2024 (UTC) == Blood Red Sandman's reviewer tools under review == If interested, you may wanna review this: [[Wikinews:Flagged revisions/Requests for permissions/Blood Red Sandman (removal)]]. [[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 04:43, 28 May 2024 (UTC) == Thank you == For your great work cleaning up around here!!! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:21, 29 May 2024 (UTC) == Some needed admin assistance == There was some vandalism of [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow's]] talk page last month. A history of sorts is here: [[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright#My_user_talk_page]]. The cliff notes: can you merge the current talk page with the [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:DroofusUniversal.com/Annex&oldid=4774633 original talk page] that was moved? There are some badges on the original, as well as block discussions. When I looked into it, the current talk page was blank so a deletion would have been easier. Now there is a thread on the current page that may need merged. Are you able to somehow merge the two and retain all the history? Thanks in advance. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 01:53, 29 May 2024 (UTC) Thank you both!!! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:57, 29 May 2024 (UTC) ::{{ping|Michael.C.Wright|BigKrow}} - unfortunately, I don't think it woukd be possible to merge the two. I've copied the original text to the current talk page. That should at least give some semblance of normality. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 14:07, 29 May 2024 (UTC) :::Thank you. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:10, 29 May 2024 (UTC) == Redirects sorryyy.... == @[[User:Cromium|Cromium]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:11, 2 June 2024 (UTC) :{{ping|BigKrow}} Haha, no problem. That is why we have a specific criterion for speedy deletions. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 22:13, 2 June 2024 (UTC) ::::K!!!! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:15, 2 June 2024 (UTC) == Sleep? == still sleepy or nahhh??? @[[User:Cromium|Cromium]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:56, 2 June 2024 (UTC) :Bad habit - using devices in bed. Going to sleep now. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 23:12, 2 June 2024 (UTC) == [[At least 20 die in Odesa in Russian missile strike, Ukraine reports]] == It looks like you accidentally kept the expiry date Bddpaux had incorrectly set, September 25, for the full protection on this when archiving it. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 03:49, 3 June 2024 (UTC) :Doh! Fixed. Thank you. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 07:46, 3 June 2024 (UTC) == I hope you're proud of yourself == In the past 72 hours, I've been accused of being "emotional" (I wasn't) but I damn sure am now. In 16 freaking years, I haven't been emotional here. ''But I am now.'' There was a noted '''lack of consensus''' on whether or not we could reach a consensus (we could have). The whole business could've just sat, broiling at 200-degrees and maybe by the end of June, a sane mature decision could've been reached. Hell, I could've simply been the Fall guy -- 'Bddpaux acted a bit too fast, lesson learned, but let's help this new Reviewer along and just see where things go.' But no: you tantrum'd your way into ginning up what you wanted to see and in so doing, have poisoned what might've been a smart, good Reporter/Reviewer around this place. I doubt that person will drop a key stroke here in the next 6 months. You but barely poke your nose in here since December 1st and then choose this little axe to grind. One User in this process would oppose the sun coming up tomorrow!! --and you blend that in to your consensus. I was a bit optimistic. I acted a bit too quickly. <br> But... You do know that it is SUPER EASY to run people away from this place, don't you?! I was hoping to avoid that. I deeply (spiritually, existentially) believe in Citizen journalism -- it is good and righteous and holy. You literally, pointedly and actively SHAT UPON my actions. I have tried to unretire. I was a bit tired last year and took a bit of a sabbatical. I am, deeply and personally '''profoundly angry at you, as a person''' -- and have every single right to be. Any Steward (who would take the time to read) would see that I have every right to be. You have harmed this project and how I view it and I will be slow to forget that, whatever the cost. And to clarify: I'm not running away now; far from it. I have seen people come, stay, go, ''literally die'' -- and I'm still here. While I still intend to take a short breather -- I will be back here soon: reporting, editing, reviewing, administrating, mentoring etc. etc. etc. -- because this is a good thing, and we do good things here. Any response/rebuttal you might offer can, pre-emptively be burned in an ash pot for all I care. [[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:50, 31 May 2024 (UTC) :{{ping|Bddpaux}} I don't care if you are pissed off. You have a nerve to blame me for your incompetence. You are the one who could not recognise that there was no consensus. You made the mess by not closing the discussion properly. You were downright disrespectful to others in that discussion by saying "quacking and barking". We have been putting up with your rude behaviour for years. I tried to clean up your mess, which by the way I have been doing for years. You still struggle to understand that deleting a page does not automatically delete the talk page. Personally I am sick of deleting talkpages ypu left behind. You have some balls to say I have been off a few months. What were you doung for the last few months? Why are you incapable of dealing with the speedy deletions? When i logged in again a few days ago, there were over 300 speedy deletions sitting in that category. Why are you still an administrator, if you cannot handle these things? I have tried to be as polite as I can but your rudeness has reached a new peak. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 18:24, 31 May 2024 (UTC) :{{ping|Bddpaux|Cromium}} I know I'm not that experienced here, but I just want to remind everyone to be nice to each other, be civil and not make person attacks. Both of you are extremely helpful good-faith editors trying to do the right thing, please remember that.[[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 19:59, 31 May 2024 (UTC) ::{{ping|Me Da Wikipedian}} - absolutely agree but you need to direct it more at someone who makes a mess and then blames the person who tried to clean up. Before today, you would never have seen so much as a rude word from me but I feel I have spent several days cleaning up messes made by certain others. At the same time, those certain others are busy painting me as lazy because I was not online for a few months and I did not attend to one request for check user. This despite me publicly announcing last year that ill health was slowing me down. I did not make a personal attack until the above comment, which is the most insulting comment I have ever had from a person who is supposedly an administrator. I was a steward for five years and was known for being diplomatic and polite. However, today my patience reached its limit. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 22:39, 31 May 2024 (UTC) :::Neither of you are acting particularly great. Here's my opinion. Bddpaux should understand what a consensus is, and not argue with you and claim that you are trying to, without real evidence, drive away Asheiou. Also, don't dismiss other people with stuff like the "quacking and barking" nonsense. You shouldn't have close Asheiou's request for reviewer as there wasn't exactly consensus against either, and certainly not have immediatly archived it. As someone who tags a lot of these for speedy deletion, Bddpaux should remember to delete the talk pages and give helpful deletion summaries when appropriate. :::Bddpaux absolutely should not have left the obnoxious note above. The arguement above is clearly a personal attack. If you do something you realize you did too early, don't get upset if someone else calls you out. Allegations such as "you tantrum'd your way into ginning up what you wanted to see" and you have "poisoned what might've been a smart, good Reporter/Reviewer". Furthermore, Asheiou has stated that they will continue editing and just want the drama to stop, not like " I doubt that person will drop a key stroke here in the next 6 months" and "it is SUPER EASY to run people away from this place, don't you?! I was hoping to avoid that". Besides, people need to be allowed to deny a request for permission without people being upset for driving someone away. Cromium is also a volunteer here. They are under no obligation to be active at all times, and what they choose to do and not is there complete choice, so "You but barely poke your nose in here since December 1st and then choose this little axe to grind" is just nonsense. Where did you get "One User in this process would oppose the sun coming up tomorrow!!" by the way? " have harmed this project and how I view it and I will be slow to forget that, whatever the cost", no they followed proper procedure. If you want that changed this is not the place. And no one is going to "literally die" over this. Cromium is clearly acting in good faith here, has not "SHAT UPON" your actions, and they are trying to help too. Your belief that journalism is "holy" is irrelevant here. So you have no reason to be "deeply and personally profoundly angry at you as a person". And how will you have discussion if "Any response/rebuttal you might offer can, pre-emptively be burned in an ash pot for all I care". yeah, you are absolutely emotional. No steward, I hope, would agree this is allowed. :::To Cromium, "I don't care if you are pissed off" is not helpful. Bddpaux is generally a very competent and useful contributor, and a mistake doesn't make them "incomptent". "We have been putting up with your rude behaviour for years" is a bit of a personal attack with only 1 instance I can see. "You have some balls to say I have been off a few months" is nonsense, that's a statement of fact. If you seriously believe they shouldn't been an administrator, here is not the correct venue. And by the way, they are definetly an admin, not a supposed administrator. :::I have never seen 2 experienced and trusted users act like this before on any wiki. This is insane. I would like to ask for you to both not interact with each other for a bit (maybe a week or so) to cool off. Also, when I reminded you to be civil, Cromium, please don't continue to attack Bddpaux rather than address what you did. You are both wrong, although I will say that Bddpaux is much worse. If this continues, I will esclate.{{ping|Bddpaux|Cromium}}[[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 23:00, 31 May 2024 (UTC) ::::[[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]]: Your assessment of this would be pretty good, except that there is no ban on personal attacks here, and certainly not a requirement to "AGF" &mdash; we have [[WN:Never assume]] instead. Bluntness and free discussion are in fact encouraged. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 23:56, 31 May 2024 (UTC) :::::So you think personal attacks are okay then? I think I can use common sense and say that even if there isn't any formal ban, it shouldn't be done. And I never said there was. ::::::Fact:Cromium has made lots of constructive edits in good-faith ::::::Fact:It's pretty clear Cromium is not trying to undermine the project :::::I am not assuming good faith, I am noting that Cromium is an editor who acts in good faith and there is no reason to think this case is different{{ping|Heavy Water}} :::::::"So you think personal attacks are okay then?": Never said that. But people's comments aren't policed so much to ensure they aren't being uncivil. And the lack of an NPA rule means, "We have been putting up with your rude behaviour for years" isn't prohibited like it might be on en.wp. If that is Cromium's view, they should state it. Your example reasoning is compatible with Never assume, as is your comment. But I added mention of it to my comment at the last moment just because I wanted to point that out in case you didn't know. I should've made that clearer. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 00:17, 1 June 2024 (UTC) ::::::::"So you think personal attacks are okay then?" was rhetorical, obviously you don't. I guess that that We have been putting up with your rude behaviour for years" isn't prohibited, but it's not exactly great either. {{ping|Heavy Water}} [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 10:03, 2 June 2024 (UTC) : I just got around to reading this full thread. I am shocked that two grown adults can argue this forcefully over a difference in opinion. As I mentioned on my own talk page and was referenced by [[User:Me Da Wikipedian]], I don't plan to go anywhere. I still believe in this project and the good it can bring. I don't, however, believe in this level of vitriol towards another editor, another human being, who at the end of the day believes in the same goal. This goes for both of the involved editors. The level of unbridled hatred spewed in this thread is genuinely appalling &mdash; if anything here is going to "scare me off", it's going to be the way that people interact when they disagree. I'm going to take a week or so after I write this to reflect, and then I'll be back to be constructive. I hope, for your own sakes, you can at least see the slightest bit of humanity in each other, despite everything that's happened. [[User:Asheiou|A.S. Thawley]] ([[User talk:Asheiou|talk]]) ([https://asheiou.uk/calendar calendar]) 02:52, 1 June 2024 (UTC) :* Me Da Wikipedian, Heavy Water, and Asheiou, thank you for the comments. I appreciate your intervention and I agree with much of what you have said. I should not have written some these things but the acidic tone pushed me too far, especially when I was trying to help him out. I fixed his requests for bureaucrat and checkuser (he still does not understsnd how to transclude a page). I have spent a lot of time deleting talk pages orphaned by his deletion of articles. I have also been checking his edit summaries abd hiding ones that contain offensive words. None of that angered me because we are both volunteers. However, I want clarify that Bddpaux '''SHOULD''' follow procedures, even if he disagrees with them. With regard to [[:Wikinews:Flagged revisions/Requests for permissions/Asheiou]], he should have understood there still was no consensus after three months. If he had read the instructions at the top of the RFP page, it says such requests must stay open for at least a week but there is no maximum. We could have left it open for longer to gather more consensus. Unfortunately, at 17:35 on May 29, he added the reviewer flag prematurely, literally a couple of minutes after adding his support vote. This was the second time that happened in this RFP. What did that do? It undermined the whole process and the confidence in administrators. I noted [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews:Flagged_revisions/Requests_for_permissions/Asheiou&diff=prev&oldid=4782926 your comment], Me Da Wikipedian, that two administrators had not understood there was no consensus. Rather than acknowledging he had made a mistake and try to fix it, he resorted to insulting the opinions of others by saying "[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews:Flagged_revisions/Requests_for_permissions/Asheiou&diff=prev&oldid=4783048 there is no shortage of chirping, quacking and barking around this place]". That is no way to refer to others, particularly as an administrator. It does not mattet if we do not have a civility policy. We shoukd never refer to others in such disparaging terms. I offered a potential solution but that was declined. At that point, it was clear that Bddpaux was not going to correct his error. So, I did what he should have done - removed the flag and closed the discussion. IF it had not involved the erroneous addition of the flag twice, I would have left the discussion open. The result of doing that was the acrimonious comment at the start of this thread and that upset me. The best course of action now is for Asheiou to gain more experience and apply again at a later date. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 09:22, 1 June 2024 (UTC) ::{{ping|Cromium}}, I thank you for being mature enough to realize what you did and apolgize for that. I would like to invite {{ping|Bddpaux}} to do the same. I still think that you should leave {{ping|Asheiou}}'s request open (unless they, frankly, want it closed at this point), since just because 2 admins don't understand what a consensus is doesn't mean you have to either. It's pretty clear that no one is signficantly in majority, either through votes, experience, or anything else. I would like to ask for you to leave it open for a bit long. It's not Asheiou's fault that people don't understand consensus. Thank you. {{unsigned|Me Da Wikipedian|10:09, 2 June 2024}} :::{{ping|Me Da Wikipedian}} the main reason for closing it was the two mistaken flags. I feel it is better to draw a line and move on to a future RFP. However, if User:Asheiou wishes to reopen it, I will be happy to oblige. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 13:23, 2 June 2024 (UTC) ::::{{ping|Cromium}}, it seems wrong to punish {{ping|Asheiou}} for the fact that Bddpaux and Bawolff as to what consensus is. {{unsigned|Me Da Wikipedian|20:08, 2 June 2024}} :::::I read all this fighting words, we need to move forward and be adults, 2 cents worthhh... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:21, 2 June 2024 (UTC) ::::::{{ping|Me Da Wikipedian}}I understand the concern and I am sorry they have been at the blunt end of the process. However, I won't re-open it unless User:Asheiou confirms they want it to. As I understand it, they were going to take a short break, which is understandable (although they seem to be editing in the background). ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 21:28, 2 June 2024 (UTC) :::::::{{ping|Cromium}} I've opted against taking a break, I enjoy editing here and things have settled down enough. About the reviewer request, I'd like to wait for another user to nominate me, whenever they think I have enough experience. I would still like to be a reviewer here, but this whole mess about my request hasn't put me in a position where I'd like to maintain my self-nomination. I stand by wanting the existing reviewers to write a little about their review process, to more effectively teach people how to review. That whole thing might link into [[User:Michael.C.Wright]]'s {{template|pre-review}}, if we're going to keep testing that as a concept, which I'd support. I think the current process for becoming a reviewer is quite inaccessible because there aren't any resources available for would-be-reviewers to learn how reviewing works. Maybe pre-review could evolve into a tool for training new potential reviewers. We'll see. [[User:Asheiou|A.S. Thawley]] ([[User talk:Asheiou|talk]]) ([https://asheiou.uk/calendar calendar]) 21:36, 3 June 2024 (UTC) == So, some words need to be said == Time, distance, many deep breaths and some mature reflection often have a great deal of merit. The important words should be said first: I am deeply sorry for my adolescent (that's putting mildly) post I made above last week -- profoundly sorry. I violated one of my personal inviolable rules:''Never type when you're angry.'' If you'd come at me with less than a machete, such a post was FAR outside the bounds of reasonable discourse and basic decorum. <br>Often, in these situations, a person '''apologizes''' and then says a bunch of words to kind of unravel their apology: I won't do that here. However, to shed some light on where my head was -- Since about October 1st (if not much earlier) the vandalism here was at plague-like levels -- dealing with it was like a battle scene from Lord of the Rings. I didn't like and will ''never like'' people treating this place like their own weird dry mark board. I was exhausted and horribly exasperated. I spent 97% of my time running around with a broom and a mop and could manage little else. Then, 1 or 2 people showed a wee bit of promise as Reporters/Reviewers. I moved much too quickly on some things; when that was over-turned, I then had my own little micro Will Smith episode (in the center of the arena, I might add). <br> A couple of important things: <br>*My current RfP's? They are withdrawn, ''forthwith''. Zap them. Close them, per my request. It will be many moons before I express any interest in being a 'Crat or a CU anywhere in the WMF universe. <br>*For the next 52 weeks, RfP (and anything in the realm of PeP actions) will be a no fly zone for me. No comments, no votes, no actions... nothing. I think that would be best. <br>*For the rest of this year, my Admin. actions will pretty much be janitorial in nature (obvious speedy deletes, putting up 'aband' temps) and the like. Any other concrete Admin. stuff -- I am just staying away from that. I think that would be best. I'm going to give wide berth to stuff about policy (not saying I won't comment) -- but it'll be a rare event. <br>*For several weeks, I'm just going to not be around much. I am utterly swamped at work and have all manner of stuff with my house, community involvement etc. going on right now, and there are only 24 hours in a day. <br>This place is BOTH a news site AND a wiki. Eons ago, some smart people would talk about how many persons within the WMF circle really don't/won't/refuse to comprehend the weird and complex balance that entails. I have always veered toward the "News Project"-piece being most important, but things just don't operate like that. Since the impetus of this kerfuffle, this place has lit up like a Christmas tree! I can only hope the interest/energy/activity (or, the positive aspects, I mean) continue for months and years to come. People I've never heard of in my entire life have come 'round. Again: loads of people bust in here, guns ablazing, longing for a Pulizter -- and then they are never heard from again. Maybe a good change is in the wind. We are all just volunteers. [[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:40, 3 June 2024 (UTC) :Apology accepted. I shouldn't have said some of those things. Let us draw a line on the ground and move on. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 18:49, 3 June 2024 (UTC) :::Thank you, both [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:51, 3 June 2024 (UTC) ::::I would like to thank everyone for (finally) acting like adults here. {{ping|Bddpaux}}, there are a few RFP's you said you would take action on before a certain date (many of which have already passed). What should be done? Will you take action on those, or should someone say that you no longer will? [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 20:31, 3 June 2024 (UTC) :::::I am steering clear of RfP's (and PeP actions) for the next 52 weeks. Another Admin. can action those, where applicable.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:23, 3 June 2024 (UTC) :::Thank you both for coming to a mature resolution. I hope this will at least shake some activity into our community for more than 3 seconds. It's shown us what matters about Wikinews, at least. [[User:Asheiou|A.S. Thawley]] ([[User talk:Asheiou|talk]]) ([https://asheiou.uk/calendar calendar]) 21:20, 3 June 2024 (UTC) :::Agreed. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:21, 3 June 2024 (UTC) ::::It has, indeed.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:22, 3 June 2024 (UTC) == Thanks for the snappy review == Been a while since I've had an article reviewed the same day I wrote it. We actually got a piece of news out while it's still news, and about at the same time as some of the more minor UK papers and such. Glad to see, cheers! [[User:Asheiou|A.S. Thawley]] ([[User talk:Asheiou|talk]]) ([https://asheiou.uk/calendar calendar]) 21:15, 3 June 2024 (UTC) :::Well done! --[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:16, 3 June 2024 (UTC) == Ohio story == Thank you for the review and publication! Appreciate it. @[[User:Cromium|Cromium]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:30, 3 June 2024 (UTC) == Nice Job! == For the first time in...28 months, wow... our front page has nothing older than 1 day on it. For the first time in 28 months, we look like an active and credible news source. For the first time I'm actually a bit worried at how fast things are changing on the main page. I wanted to thank you for your awesome and very quick reviews that have allowed this. Great job and hope we can keep this up. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 20:50, 4 June 2024 (UTC) :No problem. This is how it should be. With the changing of the main page, I am following the principle of putting the last five reviewed articles with newest at lead 1. However, we can change this if there is an article we think should stay up. Feel free to make any suggestions on the main page talk. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 20:56, 4 June 2024 (UTC) ::Agreed, made a proposal [[Talk:Main Page|the talk page of the Main Page]].[[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 20:59, 4 June 2024 (UTC) == Viktor Pinchuk == You might want to know. Bddpaux and I have both said we aren't comfortable with passing any more of these; at least, so long as Pinchuk continues his work here in a largely similar fashion. I don't know if you're fully aware of the circumstances &mdash; for over a year and a half now, Pinchuk has about once a month written an article at ru.wn, which usually focuses on some presentation he did of some book or photo album of his derived from some travels of his, and translates it to submit it here and at multiple other language editions. [[Special:Diff/4783846|Bddpaux's reasoning]] largely meshes with mine. I only used to allow Pinchuk to do this, reluctantly, because reviewers much more experienced than me had, repeatedly. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 06:20, 5 June 2024 (UTC) :{{ping|Heavy Water}} I have been aware of these articles and am not sure what the best approach is. I don't want to discourage him from contributing but I agree there does seem to be a form of COI involved. If it was just reported by someone else, it would be far less problematic. Clearly there have been public events (this last one at a state-run museum), and there have been plenty of people attending. We will need to communicate this to him as politely as possible (although I suspect there has been a language barrier in the past). ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 12:23, 5 June 2024 (UTC) == Bing News == Hi, @[[User:Cromium|Cromium]], I have always used Bing News for searches but should I use something different like Google News? I just don't like to go to big news contributions i have a bad tendency if OCD so please bere with me, looking forward to hearing from you, thanks! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:26, 9 June 2024 (UTC) :{{ping|BigKrow}} Well, you can use any search engine you wish. However, please don't list news aggregator sites such as Yahoo News, if the actual source article is available. For example, we had one from Yahoo News that was actually from Euronews. So I've swapped the url so it shows Euronews instead. I hope that makes sense. (Oh, and you don't need to ping me on my talkpage - the system automatically alerts me if someone else leaves a message here.) ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 00:32, 9 June 2024 (UTC) ::::Sorry bad habit of me pinging users..... and thanks for the information. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:43, 9 June 2024 (UTC) == Lead Article 1 == Please sight my revert of your mistake. Thank you. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 13:11, 9 June 2024 (UTC) == Revision deleting the IP address at Acagastya's talk page == I think it should not be done, for the sole reason that he knows that and consciously decides to use his IP address instead of logging in. I don't think that's normally covered under revision-deletion on most wikis, though I could be mistaken here. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 12:46, 11 June 2024 (UTC) :{{ping|Leaderboard}} Hiding an exposed IP address has been one of the reasons for revision deletion on this wiki [[:mediawiki:Revdelete-reason-dropdown|since at least 2010]] I know that Acagastya takes safety very seriously, so I'd prefer to be cautious and let him undelete it if he wishes. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 16:03, 11 June 2024 (UTC) == Copyright license upgrade == We are preparing to upgrade our copyright license. Part of that project is updating all pages that mention the specific license. To help streamline that change in the future, we are implementing a template {{tl|Current CC Version}} to reduce the number of places we have to change text. The edit-protected change we need involves replacing any occurrences of the following text: <code><nowiki>[http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/ Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 license]</nowiki></code> ..with {{tl|Current CC Version}} that will transclude our current version. The template currently renders the following; {{Current CC Version}}. Therefore this change can be implemented now. Once we are ready to do the license upgrade, we can then change the text in that template to reflect the current version and that will in-turn update all pages that include {{tl|Current CC Version}}. We have a list of edit-protected pages that need changed here: [[Wikinews_talk:Copyright#Pages_to_update_when_license_is_updated_from_2.5_to_4.0]] That list includes pages I've already changed, so you can see any one of those for an example. I started to put edit-protected requests on each page, but thought posting one request here might be better. Any help would be greatly appreciated. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:40, 25 June 2024 (UTC) == Thank you == Thank you so much for the super long and probably incredibly difficult review of [[On the campaign trail in the USA, May 2024]] as well as keeping a great contributor around (even if it caused me to need to Gatwick a story). If you're up for it, the review backlog is quite large still (although I'm confident that every article there combined isn't nearly the size of that behomoth) [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 23:37, 28 June 2024 (UTC) :It was quite tough but worth it. I'm sure I've made some mistake somewhere in there but it needed to be published, if only so I could read about a CBD gummy 😁. At this time it has gone past midnight here. I'll try to review some of the rest tomorrow. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 23:47, 28 June 2024 (UTC) ::Whatever happened to reviewing some tommorrow? [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 19:07, 30 June 2024 (UTC) == Closing a vote == Dear Cromium, We need someone to make a formal closure of [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy#Conclusion_and_implementation_of_upgrade_to_cc-by-4.0]] and I think it should be done by an admin or a bureaucrat. Is there any chance you could make the closure and conclude if Wikidata should change the license and if yes when? If other wikis should have a chance to make a change of license the same date they need to know the date some time before the change. If you are not willing to close the vote thats okay but in that case could you please say no so we can find another solution? Thank you. --[[User:MGA73|MGA73]] ([[User talk:MGA73|talk]]) 15:08, 25 July 2024 (UTC) :{{ping|MGA73}} Sorry for the delay in responding. I've been unwell, hence not being online for a while. I'll have a look in the next couple of days and try to close it. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 16:14, 29 July 2024 (UTC) :: Thank you very much!!! I hope you are soon tip top again. --[[User:MGA73|MGA73]] ([[User talk:MGA73|talk]]) 17:59, 29 July 2024 (UTC) == Hope you're ok == Thanks [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:36, 19 August 2024 (UTC) == Reviewing a protected status change == [[:CAT:REV]] contains [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Archive-sighted&diff=cur&oldid=4656811 this entry], which has a button to accept the change, but not to reject it. Is this a bug? If not, how does it work? (I've accepted it now.) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:47, 2 September 2024 (UTC) == Please review == I'm posting requests with assistance of Reviewing to [[Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance]] now and for the next few days, please check? Could you please add this page to watchlist and/or click 'Subscribe' and/or setup email notifications, and check your notifications or emails? Thank you in advance! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:58, 3 September 2024 (UTC) == Archiving requests for permission == Hi, after '''<span class="plainlinks">[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews:Flagged_revisions/Requests_for_permissions&diff=prev&oldid=4634647 this]</span>''', how do I archive? remove "<nowiki>{{Wikinews:Flagged revisions/Requests for permissions/Michael.C.Wright}}</nowiki>" from page and move to archive -- no need to copy and paste content, right? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:42, 12 September 2024 (UTC) :Solved -- Me Da Wikipedian did it. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:48, 12 September 2024 (UTC) == Review? == Hi (I am messaging all reviewers) Hope you are doing well. Here are submitted for peer review: * [[Photo exhibition “Ethnic features of the world people” took place in the Crimean capital]] * [[On the campaign trail in the USA, June 2024]] *[["Machu Picchu, and not only...", a new photo exhibition by Viktor Pinchuk was held in Crimea]] Could you please review? Even a little edit or just one review would help a lot. (I don't require a commitment to review every day from now on.) Would you like to get notified of new drafts submitted for review? If so, please tell me which topics (or any topic) and where (email, wiki messages, push notification on smart phone, notification in wiki Notifications, or somewhere else). Would you find a [[WN:RNA]] page for reviewers useful, it would be similar to [[WN:AAA]] but intended for reviewers to discuss reviewing and related software. Would you be interested other communications off-wiki to create audio or video contact with other reviewers? I think this online gathering could be an essential part to deduce how to make article authoring and review easier. It could be just 30 minutes a month, and you don't have to participate every time. I would write a meeting minutes note after each session and publish it on-wiki if desired. Thanks! Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:26, 25 August 2024 (UTC) what kind of strange prophecy?--[[User:Stav19633|Stav19633]] ([[User talk:Stav19633|talk]]) 07:05, 12 September 2024 (UTC) == How to follow newer drafts == Hi Cromium Some people read the "recent changes" page 150 times a day. Some others refresh "Newsroom" 30 times a day. There is an easier alternative to follow latest drafts: visit [[Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance]], either manually once a week, or click "Subscribe" button at right top. It will Notify or Email (depending on configuration) when a new topic is added to the page. Then you can see what to edit and what are main requests for help with it, without spending too much time on the site. It is where questions might often go if they were not quickly solved by the first 1-3 people who were reading recent changes or newsroom today. Your advice in discussions that you willingly pick as interesting would be greatly appreciated! Hope it helps. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:53, 24 September 2024 (UTC) == Review please? == Queue: *3* in total: Monday (1), Tuesday (2). It is currently *Wednesday*. One breaking story (hurricane). 🥺🥺🥺 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:22, 9 October 2024 (UTC) 8s8vak58svuf62vyk6y9ffnempaq7do User:Angelicadia/Sandbox/Exchange rates/EUR 2 2980762 4804304 4804233 2024-11-09T08:00:34Z BOT-Superzerocool 18821 Bot: Updating Exchange Rates [[:es:User Talk:Superzerocool|Comments (es.wikinews)]] 4804304 wikitext text/x-wiki {{User:Angelicadia/Sandbox/Exchange Rates/core | date = 09 November, 2024 | hour= 08:00 | extrainfo= {{{extrainfo|}}} | align = {{{align}}} | width= {{{width|{{#if:{{{width|}}}|50%|35%}}}}}} | country= {{{country}}} | AUD = 1.629089 | USD = 1.072266 | JPY = 163.686863 | GBP = 0.830088 | CHF = 0.939162 | BRL = 6.152562 | CNY = 7.698019 | MXN = 21.634265 | HKD = 8.336174 | RUB = 104.99181 | INR = 90.481213 | CRC = 551.556973 | ARS = 1071.53141 | CLP = 1028.119797 | BOB = 7.467417 | COP = 4640.937963 | NIO = 39.676905 | PEN = 4.044584 | UYU = 45.046486 }}<noinclude></noinclude> oq6xrndkhg2rjok63n28qgglg87j5do User talk:Michael.C.Wright/Archive 1 3 2992356 4804255 4803916 2024-11-08T15:02:11Z Revibot I 1627724 Bot: Archiving 3 threads from [[User talk:Michael.C.Wright]] 4804255 wikitext text/x-wiki - == User page deletion == I have requested my user page on Wikinews be deleted. I am not requesting my user account here be deleted. I'm hoping the verbiage on the banner is incorrect. I have created a global user page with meta.[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Michael.C.Wright] I would like to use the one profile for all wiki sister projects. An example is my profile on commons: [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Michael.C.Wright User:Michael.C.Wright] is actually the global user page [[wikipedia:Help:Transclusion|transcluded]] to commons. Thank you! [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User talk:Michael.C.Wright|talk]]) 14:42, 14 March 2023 (UTC) :Well, it is impossible for technical reasons to delete an account, even for stewards/global sysops, so at worst the request would just be declined. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 14:44, 14 March 2023 (UTC) ::Okay. That sounds promising. If there are any questions about global accounts, here is the page on meta: [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_user_pages Global user pages]. ::Thank you for the clarification. ::[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User talk:Michael.C.Wright|talk]]) 14:58, 14 March 2023 (UTC) == Awards == {|style="border: 8px solid gray; background-color: #fdff7;" |rowspan="2" valign="middle" | [[Image:Pencil tip closeup 2.JPG|160px]] |rowspan="2" | |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 2; vertical-align: middle; height: .4em;" | '''The Order of the Humble Pencil''' <br> For completing ''5 edits''. |- |style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | |} {|style="border: 8px solid gray; background-color: #fdff7;" |rowspan="2" valign="middle" | [[Image:Pencil tip closeup 2.JPG|160px]] |rowspan="2" | |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 2; vertical-align: middle; height: .4em;" | '''The Order of the Modest Pencil''' <br> {{{1|{{{for|For getting your first article published!}}}}}} |- |style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | {{{2|{{{message|A very thoroughly researched one, too! And good to see you're looking through the archives-one can gain a lot of insight into the history, people, and rules of ''Wikinews'' by doing that. --[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 04:54, 15 March 2023 (UTC)}}}}}} |} :Thank you [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] for the awards! [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User talk:Michael.C.Wright|talk]]) 15:30, 15 March 2023 (UTC) == Category == You can create a [[:Category:Wikinews authors|Wikinewsie category]] for yourself to keep track of your articles, if you want, by the way. Also you can add the correct one of [[Wikinews:Contributing Reporter Awards|these]] to your user page, if you want. It's just for fun, really. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 16:14, 23 March 2023 (UTC) :Thanks! Will do. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User talk:Michael.C.Wright|talk]]) 16:50, 23 March 2023 (UTC) == Senate just voted for 2002 AUMF repeal == [https://apnews.com/article/senate-repeal-iraq-war-authorization-85be03d5aedc8a28459195160bfaad3c?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=TopNews&utm_campaign=position_01 FYI]. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 17:36, 29 March 2023 (UTC) :Yeah. I planned on writing something today. Thanks. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:35, 30 March 2023 (UTC) == [[US appeals court upholds ruling lawyer for ex-President Trump must cooperate with federal investigation]] == This did go stale. I do want to say: please check the edit history and its "diffs" (click "prev" in the history) after each review (including on this article) to see what you can improve in the future. Addressing those things can significantly speed up review. There just wasn't the time to finish this. Reviewing often is, in my experience, actually much more labor-intensive than writing, which did surprise me. You write detailed articles with a lot of background, which I appreciate, and I don't intend to discourage that, but it is a fact they require more time to review (not necessarily a bad thing). [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 00:18, 30 March 2023 (UTC) ::Since it is stale and now needs Gatwicked, I don't plan on continuing work on that article unless another editor or reviewer see's benefit in me doing so. There will certainly be more news on that subject for us to cover in the future. ::I do know my articles take more time to review and I am sympathetic to that fact. I actively seek recommendations from reviewers on ways to prepare an article for easier review. I've also [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/technical#Wikinews_editing_and_reviewing_template_feature_request|proposed technical changes]] that I think will benefit both authors and reviewers here. ::From my brief experience with Wikinews, the review process is one key hinderance to Wikinews being agile and able to produce timely, relevant articles. If we can figure out how to make that process easier and more efficient without reducing the thoroughness of the process, I believe we'd make progress. ::Regarding the length of the articles I write; I read through the sources you linked at a recent [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Comments|discussion at the water cooler]], specifically other comments at the Meta page [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_English_Wikinews Proposals for closing projects/Closure of English Wikinews]. There are comments such as "...a lot of these are very short" and "...none of them has any real depth." I ''generally'' agree with those comments. ::A short Wikinews article that is not original reporting is more than likely, mostly a paraphrase of existing news. In those cases, it provides little value to Wikinews readers above what they'd get from the original news source. The value I try to bring is providing deeper background and synthesis — synthesis of sources to provide a richer background, not in arriving at new or unique conclusions. ::I'm not a journalist and won't be doing much, if any original reporting. Therefore, the value I can bring is mainly articles with more depth and cohesion between articles, i.e., tracking news developments regarding AUMFs over the course of multiple articles. ::I know you aren't trying to discourage longer articles. I'm offering here a bit of explanation into motive, in hopes of furthering the discussion around improving the writing and reviewing process because I do see that as a core hurdle hindering the number and depth of articles, ''generally speaking''. ::[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:31, 30 March 2023 (UTC) == Specialty Coffee Expo == Did you ever end up getting to go to that? If you did and just haven't written it up yet, there's certainly still time per precedent for OR (and the rules are bent more often for OR than synthesis; looking back, the last OR pieces of comparable significance were from about 2014). BTW, I must have been pressed for time when I first saw what you wrote above. I just read it in full, and you clearly [[wikt:grok|grok]] the problems we face, and offer good solutions. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 21:17, 10 May 2023 (UTC) :I did [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnYNnnPxInA&list=PLCcuGXzqCcKBDA8TEInz-qOMwn-gPi6AS three on-camera interviews] but two of the three were quite coffee-centric and I didn't think that was a good angle for a general audience at wikinews. I thought about doing spot interviews of random attendees but ended up prioritizing other networking while there. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:54, 15 May 2023 (UTC) ::It's understandable to a general audience and interesting (in my view); not as niche as many of the articles in [[:Category:Halloween]] (specifically, the Haunters Conventions). That could be a great article even with just minimal text introduction (depending on how much time you have to work on it). [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 15:51, 15 May 2023 (UTC) ::Sorry for butting in here. ::Just wanted to say that I would find such an article of interest. I am saying this as a reader of Wikinews who knows coffee tastes good and that's about all I know, [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 16:20, 15 May 2023 (UTC) ::Documenting the event (assuming you have additional photographs) and interspersing it with bits and pieces from the interviews surely would be newsworthy [[:WN:OR]]. The full videos of the interviews could then be linked (if uploaded to Commons) for those coffee aficionados who want to get in deep. Or it could be an article about Indonesia's efforts to gain market share in the US. (Guessing the Ted Fishcer interview would be less applicable for the latter option.). Cheers, [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 17:42, 15 May 2023 (UTC) :::I should have time on Friday to dive deeper into this. I'm pleasantly surprised by the interest! [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 12:43, 16 May 2023 (UTC) ::::Sorry guys. I just didn't have time to do the article any justice. I had other priorities that needed my attention. The good news is that if things pan out the way I hope they will, I will have an opportunity to do some original reporting on coffee production in Africa. Fingers crossed! [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:14, 23 May 2023 (UTC) :::::Ah, OK. Well, Africa OR would be extra good, offer something the regular media usually does not (since they practically only cover Africa when something tragic or destabilizing happens). [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 15:10, 23 May 2023 (UTC) == Coffee quote == Hi again, {{PAGENAME}} I found a coffee quote for you at wikiqote. I hope you like it: <blockquote>Just the other day, I was in my neighborhood Starbucks, waiting for the post office to open. I was enjoying a chocolatey cafe mocha when it occurred to me that to drink a mocha is to gulp down the entire history of the New World. From the Spanish exportation of Aztec cacao, and the Dutch invention of the chemical process for making cocoa, on down to the capitalist empire of Hershey, PA, and the lifestyle marketing of Seattle's Starbucks, the modern mocha is a bittersweet concoction of imperialism, genocide, invention, and consumerism served with whipped cream on top. No wonder it costs so much. ~ [[q:Sarah Vowell]]</blockquote> [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 15:39, 20 May 2023 (UTC) :Nice! Thanks for sharing. Wikiquote is a project I've been interested in contributing to, just never have. :One of the coffee quotes I've collected: "Good communication is as stimulating as black coffee, and just as hard." - Anne Spencer :And there's always the very quotable Dave Grohl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=fhdCslFcKFU :[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:22, 23 May 2023 (UTC) == Advice on getting an article reviewed == Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], I really appreciate your contributions here and I wanted to reach out to you for advice on how to get my first article reviewed. I originally wrote it as a prepared story two days in advance of an event on February 16-17, but then I was unable to get a complete review. I have [[WN:GATWICK]]ed the article several times since then, but I fear this will be its last chance to get reviewed before it goes stale and gets deleted. I've reached out to five administrators and several other reviewers in the last three weeks but all have either said they are too busy to review it or not responded yet. The article is here: [[Two world records fall at the World Athletics Indoor Championships]]. Understanding that you are not a reviewer, do you have any advice for me such as ideas to improve the article and bring it up to Wikinews standards, to make a future reviewer's workload easier and to increase the chances it will be published? Thank you, --[[User:Habst|Habst]] ([[User talk:Habst|talk]]) 21:37, 4 March 2024 (UTC) :I'm glad you're sticking with it and really trying to contribute. :Here are some quick tips—things to keep in mind that I've learned along the way (and don't always achieve myself). In some of the tips I provide specifics for you. Hopefully this helps! :* Longer articles with many sources take longer to review. :** The review process here is pretty stringent and thorough. In my experience, the reviewers seem to read every sourced article. :** Be sure to remove sources if facts you use are established in another of your sources (I make this mistake frequently) :** Wikinews definitely benefits from longer, in-depth articles and I personally prefer to write longer articles with a lot of background. ''However'', they are harder to get published. Pick your poison. ;) :* The title states the main point of the article. If your title mentions two broken world records, that's what the article should talk about; who, what, when, where, why, and how two world records were broken. This is the [[WN:5W&H]] :** Based on your title and the lede, how does the last section of the article fit? If you could cut that entire last section and sources associated with it, that could help the reviewer. :**Similarly with the second section. The second section doesn't mention Bol, Charlton, or the two broken world records. :* In longer, more complicated articles, I indicate to the reviewer my source for a given statement or paragraph. I do this using HTML comments. You can see it in pre-reviewed versions of some of my articles.[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=US_Supreme_Court_blocks_stay_on_federal_regulation_on_privately_made_firearms&action=edit&oldid=4740630] Look for text such as this: <code><nowiki><!--Source: Everytown--></nowiki></code> :** That tells the reviewer that a specific fact or statement can be found in a specific article. :** The reviewer removes them as they review the article so they aren't in published versions. :** Not all reviewers see or use those comments. :* Be sure to structure your article according to [[WN:PYRAMID]]. :** Readers get hooked by your title and are reeled in by your lede :** Your lede should answer the 5w's and summarize the entire article (and should be able to stand alone) :I like the style in which you've written the article. I would recommend looking at past sports articles that have been published on Wikinews to see the format and style they followed. I'm not saying you should robotically follow them, but they will show you what is acceptable. I seem to recall I had an article with sections and the sections were removed as part of the review process...I'll look to see if I can find it. :For whatever reason, things are really quiet here right now. No new articles have been published since January 4th. I had an article go stale without review last month. I just posted another for review today and intentionally kept the article as short and to-the-point as possible in an attempt to make it as easy as possible to get something new posted. Maybe for your first article and given the quietness we're currently seeing, you cut down your article to the smallest size you can stomach so that you can go through the review process and experience it. :Based on the dates of the articles included by the {{tl|athletics}} infobox, we could really use a sports writer! :[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 23:16, 4 March 2024 (UTC) ::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], thank you so much for your detailed advice. I have changed the title and the lede keeping this in mind, so that the main point is communicated clearly and is reflected in the title and body. I'll work on adding the HTML-comment inline source attributions if anything isn't clear. ::It seems like [[US Supreme Court Rules Unanimously, Keeping Trump On Colorado Ballot|your new article]] (which I do appreciate) has just been taken out from under review today ― this is the same thing that happened to my article before it went stale, so I fear the same thing will happen to yours. I was wondering if, based on Asheiou's response to your question at [[Wikinews:Flagged revisions/Requests for permissions/Asheiou]], could you please vote (not asking you to vote one particular way or another)? I think your input is important, because you are one of the two or three active community members who are writing articles this year (technically, there are zero members who have published articles since Jan 4) and the requester is uncomfortable with taking reviewer action without community consensus. Thank you, --[[User:Habst|Habst]] ([[User talk:Habst|talk]]) 16:00, 7 March 2024 (UTC) :::I do intend to vote but I would like to hear more from Asheiou as well as other editors. I find Bawolff's comments interesting and would like to hear more about that as well—specifically what a new version of the review process might look like. :::I like that enWikinews has a stringent and thorough review process. I appreciate the feedback I've gotten from reviewers and feel the resultant, published articles are always better than what I posted for review. But the lack of reviewers to perform that process is effectively blocking new content. One quick and easy solution to that is to simply add more reviewers. And one unintended consequence of that may be reduced quality in the review process. :::I am interested in hearing what other editors ask Asheiou and what her answers are. If no one else asks questions, I'll ask more. But right now I don't want to dominate the process by peppering her with my own questions. :::Lastly, I've had four articles go stale so far. I've gatwicked a couple and let a couple more go unpublished. As frustrating as that is—to spend the time putting an article together only to have it not reviewed and be deleted—I don't want to rush the process simply to get one article reviewed. I'd like to explore a solution to the current log-jam that is least likely to cause new problems later. If that means another, complete overhaul of the review system, I'd like to hear ideas of what that looks like. :::I don't think we're at a stage where we should improvise a solution (but I'm open to be proven otherwise). The way I see it, raw page-views of en.wikinews surprisingly aren't dropping.[https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/en.wikinews.org/reading/total-page-views/normal|bar|2-year|~total|monthly] That obviously won't last without new content. But I think we have some time yet to be intentional. :::[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 16:54, 7 March 2024 (UTC) == Hi. == I started a new story hopefully I can get more information soon, thanks, also if you need anything don't hesitate to ask me, thanks!!! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:16, 19 March 2024 (UTC) :[[File:Thumbs-up-icon.svg|Thumbs-up-icon]] I posted on the Collab page of the new article. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 00:32, 20 March 2024 (UTC) ::Thanks! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:30, 20 March 2024 (UTC) ::Have a good night Michael. Talk soon. Thanks for the helping hands! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:45, 20 March 2024 (UTC) == PGP?? == What is this PGP key business??--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 18:58, 27 March 2024 (UTC) :PGP is encryption software.[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy] Individuals can use my PGP key to encrypt messages to me. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 19:36, 27 March 2024 (UTC) :It can also be used to verify identity, sign messages, etc. Unfortunately, it isn't very user friendly, so it never got the broad acceptance it should have. I've used it in some form or fashion for almost 30 years. I used to carry a copy on a 3.5" floppy. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 21:48, 28 March 2024 (UTC) == Article??? == Palestinians article close to publish or review??? Thnx [[Special:Contributions/64.39.81.54|64.39.81.54]] ([[User talk:64.39.81.54|talk]]) 21:25, 28 March 2024 (UTC) :Are you referring to the article titled "[[12 Palestinians, possibly more, drown trying to get aid parcels dropped into the sea]]?" If so, work is being done on it to get it ready for review. I'm not a reviewer, so I can only help get it ready prior to someone else reviewing it. You are also welcome to contribute to it. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] started the article and is currently the main contributor. You might check in with him to see how you can work together. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 21:31, 28 March 2024 (UTC) ::The IP is me Michael sorry for confusing [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:36, 28 March 2024 (UTC) :::Ahhh. I thought the three question marks (???) looked familiar. :::Whenever you feel it's ready for review, feel free to re-submit it. I just wanted to get some of the basic stuff ironed out before a reviewer maybe rejected it. The orange banner and [Not Ready] can be a de-motivator. ;) [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 23:13, 28 March 2024 (UTC) ::::In your opinion do you think it's ready? I'm not sure and I hope it doesn't go stale, lately my articles have been doing better. [[Special:Contributions/64.39.81.54|64.39.81.54]] ([[User talk:64.39.81.54|talk]]) 00:36, 29 March 2024 (UTC) :::::I think it could be published as is. It exceeds the [[WN:PROD|minimal amount of three sentences]]. If it were me, I'd expand it more. The CNN article presents three points of view that you could write about: Hamas would like the airdrops stopped, humanitarian bodies assert that Israel is using starvation as a weapon, and a US official says the amount of aid arriving by land is increasing. Both articles mention that the airdrops are located in a way that makes it more likely they'll land in the water. :::::This might be an odd way to look at it; but I'd personally expand the article at least enough so that the sections from "Have an opinion?" and lower all fall below the image on the left. That makes the article look better/fuller in my opinion. :::::The nonexistent [[:category:Gaza]] should also either be created or removed from the article. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:19, 29 March 2024 (UTC) ::::::FYI, there's already a [[:Category:Gaza Strip]]. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 14:57, 29 March 2024 (UTC) == Copyrighted == I thought they looked suspicious just saying. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:14, 9 April 2024 (UTC) :Yeah. They all look suspicious. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 01:34, 9 April 2024 (UTC) ::If you don't like suspicious, revert to remove copyright violations by editing and not copy-pasting the news, but "Amber Alert cancelled after B.C. infant" and "Rare 4.8 earthquake hits New Jersey and New York" does not like the copyright violations on news, such as the websites that copy-pasted edits, is not suspicious but it's normal. Yay. [[Special:Contributions/199.212.250.163|199.212.250.163]] ([[User talk:199.212.250.163|talk]]) 15:42, 9 April 2024 (UTC) == Hi Michael == How's my article looking so far? Thanks. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:18, 9 April 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] im going offline for now talk soon. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:26, 9 April 2024 (UTC) ::Which article? [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 18:23, 10 April 2024 (UTC) :::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Bargi_plant_in_central_Italy_felt_with_explosion [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:09, 10 April 2024 (UTC) ::::Without digging too deeply into it, I can see there are two broken (red) links. There are line-breaks or carriage returns in the middle of the first and third sentences. Remember also to attribute all images using {{tl|image}} and to describe the image with a full sentence, and mention it's a file image if it pre-dates the story. Those things should be corrected before a reviewer gets to it (to save their time). ::::If it were me, I'd also expand it with some background. Also, the article states "At least three people were killed and four other bodies are missing..." That implies we know four people are dead (four ''bodies''), but we don't, as of today.[https://apnews.com/article/italy-explosion-hydroelectric-plant-9bad887184d623bf7cf828fc03b5df53] You could improve that sentence by saying: "At least three people were killed and four others are missing..." [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 23:49, 10 April 2024 (UTC) == New article == I submitted a new article. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:10, 17 April 2024 (UTC) :I responded in the article talk page. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:49, 17 April 2024 (UTC) == When there's a long string of edits that need to be reverted == Like [[Special:Contributions/181.77.35.112|here]], instead of reverting them one by one, you can go back to the diff immediately before the first edit, like [[Special:Diff/4776306]], click the edit tab, and then save. That reverts everything afterwards and is a lot faster. Also, you can warn disruptive users if you want, but there's no requirement to on this project. Thanks for your work both on countervandalism and evaluating submissions, it is really helpful. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 14:50, 17 April 2024 (UTC) :I figured there had to be a better way of doing that. Thanks for the tip and the kind words. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:30, 17 April 2024 (UTC) == My word! == This is horribly past due! [[File:Wikinews WikiNoob.png|89px|left|This [[Wikinews:Contributing Reporter Awards|award]] is presented to new reporters who have started 10 or fewer news articles.]] ---[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:54, 17 April 2024 (UTC) <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> :Thanks! You know the interns routinely get pizza on Fridays, right? [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:58, 17 April 2024 (UTC) == And: if only for your perseverance, a Cool Cat award! == You deserve this! [[File:Cool Cat Barnstar 01.png|thumb|left|200px|You deserve this, you Cool Cat!]] ---[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:03, 17 April 2024 (UTC) <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> == Hey BigKrow == @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]], I was going to leave this message on your talk page, but there's some wonkiness with it. Your talk page is being [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:BigKrow&redirect=no redirected] to a template. Was that vandalism? The message is this: you don't have to delete the whole article [[Clear message after bomb threats three Tucson, Arizona area schools]] if you want to continue working on it. Just remove or completely change the last sentence and move on. Mistakes happen. Let me know if you need help fixing your talk page. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 02:06, 18 April 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] It still needs a lot of work but, I hopefully got rid of the Copyvios??? Thanks. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC) ::[[File:Thumbs-up-icon.svg|Thumbs-up-icon]] ::[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 02:21, 18 April 2024 (UTC) == IP harassment == I pinged @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] this needs to stop @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:47, 29 April 2024 (UTC) :Agreed. I think we should implement a long-term block on the entire IP range, as recommended here: [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:Bddpaux#Recommend_blocking_anonymous_only_from_199.212.250.0/24] and less clearly here: [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Admin_action_alerts#c-Michael.C.Wright-20240424012600-2607:FEA8:1F1D:8400:799:28CC:56E3:DF38-20240423215000]. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 16:58, 29 April 2024 (UTC) == Check User please == 2607:FEA8:1F1D:8400:FAF9:19F7:C1C3:D56 [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:49, 1 May 2024 (UTC) :It's likely our friend from Canada. An admin needs to block a couple of IP ranges to help combat the disruption. We had a temporary block of the IPv6 range but it expired. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:29, 14 May 2024 (UTC) == My user talk page == It was vandalised and now has nothing there anyway you or others might be able to restore? Thanks much. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:26, 26 April 2024 (UTC) :The vandalism is a rat's nest for sure. Was there more content that you are missing beyond the comments here: [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:DroofusUniversal.com/Annex&oldid=4774633]? [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 16:53, 26 April 2024 (UTC) ::That vandal account created that page and overrided my whole talk page, yes that is my entire history of my talk page, thank you for trying to help! @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:58, 26 April 2024 (UTC) :::It might take an admin to delete your current talk page and then to move [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:DroofusUniversal.com/Annex&oldid=4774633 this version of your old talk page] to your new/current talk page. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 16:59, 26 April 2024 (UTC) ::::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] thanks Michael. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:00, 26 April 2024 (UTC) :::::@[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] We found BigKrow's old talk page along with history here: [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:DroofusUniversal.com/Annex&oldid=4774633]. :::::I am unable to move that page to make it the current User_talk:BigKrow because that page already exists. I think it will take an admin to delete the current talk page and rename [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:DroofusUniversal.com/Annex&oldid=4774633 this version] to become the new/current User_talk:BigKrow. :::::<strike>I believe this may be how the talk page became a redirect in the first place. When you try to move a page, it gives this message: "Note that the page will not be moved if there is already a page at the new title, unless it is a redirect and has no past edit history." So I think someone was trying to fix it by making the talk page a redirect so they could then move it.</strike> [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 17:09, 26 April 2024 (UTC); edited [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 17:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC) ::::::Thanks everyone appreciate it. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:13, 26 April 2024 (UTC) :::::::I struck part of my earlier comment. The redirect was created with the first move/rename of the talk page. But then somehow a template was involved and a rat's nest ensued. If only the vandals would focus that energy into ''constructive'' editing. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 17:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC) ::::::::I know, right, sigh.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:25, 26 April 2024 (UTC) :::::::::* Posting to simply prevent auto-archive. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:51, 19 May 2024 (UTC) == Pre-review == For the sake of chatter: I'm not opposed to that process. We could use a bit of streamlining in that regard. I look forward to seeing how it might play out over a year or so.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 01:55, 30 May 2024 (UTC) == Hi. == Just saying hi, we haven't talked in awhile, hope you're well. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:34, 4 June 2024 (UTC) :Hello! Yes, I was AFK for a few days. We took a long weekend in the mountains for some R&R. Things weren't quiet around here I see, LOL. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:35, 4 June 2024 (UTC) ::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], Welcome back! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:44, 4 June 2024 (UTC) == Mistakes == Hi, Michael @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], I messed up the Texas weather article by mistake, any help? Thanks. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:26, 4 June 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:36, 4 June 2024 (UTC) == Boston Celtics defeat Dallas Mavericks == Hello, please review the article I wrote about the Celtics' win against the Mavs. Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/173.76.102.69|173.76.102.69]] ([[User talk:173.76.102.69|talk]]) 19:21, 19 June 2024 (UTC) :Please note I am not a reviewer and can neither review nor publish articles. However, I may have time today to take a look at it and make some suggestions. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:25, 21 June 2024 (UTC) == pre-review == I give you all the credit in the world for working on it, Cheers!!! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:57, 11 July 2024 (UTC) :Thanks, but it is a team sport. ツ Hopefully it develops into something helpful. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 17:03, 11 July 2024 (UTC) ::Sounds good, but I also wanted to thank you for your work on your testing pre-review! @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:05, 11 July 2024 (UTC) == OMG CAT TITS account == Is that name appropriate for wikinews? Thanks just curious sounds like a possibility of a bad editor. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:31, 19 August 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], this one too Manifestation of the Witch's Titty [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:33, 19 August 2024 (UTC) ::{{user2|OMG CAT TITS}} ::If you find it offensive, I recommend raising the issue at [[WN:AAA]], where administrators (or possibly global stewards) can review it in accordance with our username policy ([[WN:U]]). If you do post to WN:AAA, it is always helpful to use the {{tl|user2}} template, which links to the user page, talk page, contribs page, etc. It's what I used just above. ::Alternatively, you could also address your concerns directly with the user on their talk page. I agree that the username is not indicative of someone who intends to contribute constructively to the project, and it may indeed be a violation of our policy. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:04, 20 August 2024 (UTC) :::Same with {{user2|Manifestation of the Witch's Titty}}. I don't see how that username indicates someone who is serious about writing news articles and I can see how it could be offensive to some. –[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:07, 20 August 2024 (UTC) == Pings inter wiki == I think they work. I just pinged you on another wiki, did you get it? Needed to type your name manually, just "@Michael.C." offered no results there (it does show your account name here for that). [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:41, 29 August 2024 (UTC) :It worked, but maybe because you posted on my user-talk page there, whereas when I tried it from a regular page, the other user didn't seem to get pinged. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:34, 29 August 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], interwiki pings do work (but I think the user might need to have an account on that wiki). [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 11:42, 30 August 2024 (UTC) ::interesting , important condition [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:52, 30 August 2024 (UTC) == Continuing discussion from your reviewer request... == It's getting off topic so Ill reply here... Mainly the fact that I've essentially been here for under 4 months, and I only have 11-12 published articles (much lower than virtually any reviewer). Also, I haven't done or pre-reviewed any OR, and there was a pre-review where I didn't really know the policy on something. Yes, I would like to become a reviewer, but do you (or anyone else) think that I am ready for it? [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 16:41, 30 August 2024 (UTC) :I think you would learn it quickly and if there were an active reviewer willing and able to mentor you, it could work. You also figure out the mechanics of Mediawiki quickly (i.e., how to update the Main page, templates, etc). You are persistent and can be dogged with certain things. One of the things I learned from my block at WP is that some people don't take doggedness too well, justifiably or not. If your goal is to collaborate more and work towards consensus more, consider trying to figure out how to adjust that doggedness or more importantly how it's presented so that it is more-often perceived as collaborative rather than combative. I have to work very hard on that myself. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 17:58, 30 August 2024 (UTC) ::Thank you. I see that we have now arrived at the point in every discussion about improving Wikinews, the "this could work if there were active reviewers". Hopefully you being a reviewer can help with that. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 18:34, 30 August 2024 (UTC) :::http://quassel-irc.org :::Do you have a list of your published articles somewhere? @[[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] :::Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:38, 31 August 2024 (UTC) ::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] nah, just check the 20 most recent published articles, the majority are mine... [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 00:55, 1 September 2024 (UTC) == [[Google reports thirteen percent increase in greenhouse gas emissions]] == Hi, I am going through Newsroom deleting stale articles. I just found the one linked in section heading. I enjoyed the read and it looks like an important topic that is not immediately stale if they're still having that increased energy usage. Would you be interested in interviewing Google and several major giants (Microsoft, Facebook/Meta, OpenAI) about this, for example, by video call or email? If so, the first step would be to add a note on article that it is being worked on to do interview, and make a list of questions on the talk page. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 20:02, 9 September 2024 (UTC) == [[Special:Diff/4797232|This]]... == ...was human error, I was aiming for the 'thank' link but the mouse slipped. Thought I'd let you know. Thanks for the tag. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:54, 9 September 2024 (UTC) :Ahh, no worries. Thanks for letting me know! —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 12:47, 10 September 2024 (UTC) == [[Special:Diff/4796888]] == Could this be also marked as abandoned? It was not edited for many days before. (Perhaps the 'stale' template could automatically change itself to Abandoned if no edits were made for N days. I haven't explored how this could work from technical perspective, yet.) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:08, 9 September 2024 (UTC) :Yes. :{{tq|Perhaps the 'stale' template could automatically change itself to Abandoned if no edits were made for N days.}} The CategoryTests extension[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTests] might be useful in that situation, but it isn't installed. I have tried to use it with a Pre-review category to automate certain maintenance functions around that template. :I'm not sure how to accurately test for the duration an article has been in a given category. Perhaps DPL could be used if we had a more robust version of DPL. But also, I believe Mediawiki is replacing DPL eventually. It has caused problems when used heavily by a project, specifically ru.WN on their main page. :Anyway if we can figure out how to automatically change categories based on duration in one or another given category, we could use the function in {{tl|copyvio}} as well, to mark violations with speedy delete after 48 hours of being in [[:Category:Copyright violations]]. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:19, 10 September 2024 (UTC) == Congratulations on the successful request for Reviewer permissions == Hi [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] Congratulations on the <span class="plainlinks">[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews:Flagged_revisions/Requests_for_permissions/Michael.C.Wright&diff=prev&oldid=4797553 successful request]</span> for Reviewer permissions. You are now able to formally review and publish articles. After the review you will be presented with a step to add the new published article to home page. There are several places where you can ask a question: * [[User talk:Michael.C.Wright|This talk page]] is likely being watched by several contributors involved in discussions at the request. * Article talk page, if related to article and contributors are being helpful. * [[Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance]] can be used to discuss concerns worth keeping, in case they apply to more than one article. (Other sections of water cooler exist for policy, technical, proposals, and miscellaneous issues.) * [[Wikinews:AAA|Administrator noticeboard (AAA)]] in case sysop action like a block or a page deletion is required. * [[Wikinews:IRC|Live chat]] for real time discussions, with '#wikinews-en' for English Wikinews, and '#wikinews' for international-related or translations-related discussions that may require attention from other language editions, and '#wikinews-tech' for technical discussions. Please let me know if you need help at any point. Again, welcome to reviewing; thanks for volunteering, and have a great day! Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:05, 12 September 2024 (UTC) :Thank you. I look forward to working with you. I know I can rely on you for advice and mentorship. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:11, 12 September 2024 (UTC) == Re: the helicopter story == I have just replied to you at the article talk page. (Please advise whether you want to continue getting such notes on your personal talk page, or you already receive Notifications through the wiki.) Thanks and best regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:11, 14 September 2024 (UTC) :I have my preferences set up so that any page I edit gets added to my watchlist automagically. I also keep an eye on the ''recent changes'' special page. With our low volume of edits, that combination keeps me pretty much up-to-date. :Pings and/or heads-up are always welcome on my talk page, as long as the necessary discussion remains as centralized as possible. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:24, 14 September 2024 (UTC) == scoop access == Hi, congratulations on receiving the reviewer bits! As I understand, now as a reviewer, you should be granted the scoop access. Would you be able to hop in on IRC some time, so I can talk to you about it and grant you the access, so you can proceed with reviewing ORs? [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 16:26, 13 September 2024 (UTC) :I am on it now (nick: MichaelCWright) and just sent a message to you there. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 16:46, 13 September 2024 (UTC) ::Sorry, I got an important work in between and I had to leave, so I could not detail everything. However, I will use the EmailUser feature to send you information later today. Once I get the acknowledgement on that, I shall create the email. By the way, do you use any email client on your computer?<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 02:06, 14 September 2024 (UTC) :::I am fine with just using webmail to check Scoop, I won't need to configure any email app for that, if that is what you are asking. I will likely configure my Scoop account to forward emails to my personal account, if that is possible. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:27, 14 September 2024 (UTC) :::I have not received anything via EmailUser. Did you send it? I have alternative contact info on my userpage. Thank you, [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:26, 21 September 2024 (UTC) == Wikibreak (over) == I'll be offline for up to the next seven days and won't be checking in during that time. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:32, 15 September 2024 (UTC) :Are you still there by any chance? The helicopter story looks ready, and freshness is about to expire now. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:36, 15 September 2024 (UTC) ::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] pinged. Please respond. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 23:43, 15 September 2024 (UTC) :::[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] & [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], sorry I missed your requests! As soon as I signed off here, I hit the road for a long-planned backpacking trip. I am back now. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:27, 21 September 2024 (UTC) ::::Welcome back. Wow, that sounds good. I hope you enjoyed the trip. ::::In the newsroom there is a story which I edited, about the exploded pagers, which I cannot review. ::::Could you please skim all stories in review queue and pick something that looks relatively easy to publish? I keep finding something to pick on and not publishing anything. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:10, 21 September 2024 (UTC) == Congratulations == Didn't get a chance to congratulate you before you left. Not sure there was really a consensus there (only one reviewer weighed in) but fine. We all know what happened last time; and I don't want to create the impression I'm trying to stir up drama by doing this repeatedly. I may not have opposed, actually (wow, what a vote of confidence). I just wanted to say, of any of the regulars who weren't reviewers, I'd have trusted you to handle the job best because of your knowledge of your own limited knowledge (of course, there's what you do know, too) &mdash; and I can see you demonstrating that already. Did I mention [[WN:Tips on reviewing articles]] at some point? Really, really helpful. I use the checklist every time (you mentioned you developed your own checklist based on a 2010 discussion, but this one's been kept up to date and it's just detailed enough). [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 05:59, 23 September 2024 (UTC) :Thank you. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:41, 23 September 2024 (UTC) == Prime Minister of Canada Justin Trudeau survives a no confidence vote == Thanks for reviewing the article. The article on the main page where there is a photo, still has Prime Minister of Canada Justin Trudeau passes confidence vote title. [[User:BilboBeggins|BilboBeggins]] ([[User talk:BilboBeggins|talk]]) 17:15, 28 September 2024 (UTC) :I got this fixed. It could have been that I chose the wrong article from the widget/gadget that helps update the lead articles on the main page after one published an article. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:30, 4 October 2024 (UTC) == California ied article == Getting close to staleness if not already hoping u can review it again? Thanks. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 14:27, 30 September 2024 (UTC) :For some reason I missed this message, I do apologize. :I would have published it per my pre-review, but @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] still has it under review. It has now gone stale and will need to be [[WN:Gatwicking|Gatwicked]] and re-reviewed to be published. :In hindsight, I'm not sure my plan as a new reviewer to pre-review articles that have time before going stale was a good idea. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:30, 4 October 2024 (UTC) == Vote about license upgrade == Hi! You have now added a conclusion ("Yes, WN upgrade to CC-BY-4.0 if the the other WN also upgrade."). Thank you for that! And I agree that it seems to be a fair description of what concensus is. But I think we need to clarify what that means. We know that some versions of wikinews want to change too. None that I know of had said no. But many have not made a formal vote and given a clear yes or no. So can we say that the other WN will also upgrade so therefore the final result is a Yes, English Wikinews upgrade to CC-BY-4.0? Or do we have to wait for the final result from all the wikis or from a RFC on meta? As I understand it some wikis wait for the result from English Wikinews before they do anything. So it is a very slow process to get anywhere. Also if we agree that it is a yes then we need to know which date the upgrade will take place. I think it would be good if we could send a message to all WN with something like this: "English Wikinews will change to CC-BY-4.0 with effect for all edits made from December 1, 2024 (or another date). Arabic Wikinews have allready changed, German, Polish, Chinese and Esperanto Wikinews have also decided to change or support to change. You can read about it at [[:en:Wikinews:Water cooler/policy#Update of license]]. We hope that you will also change license so we can continue to share articles across the different versions of Wikinews. To complete the change we need to file a request on Phabricator. To make it easier we plan to make one request for all the versions of Wikinews that will change the license. To be able to coordinate the change of license we will therefore start a vote here suggesting that you also update the license to CC-BY-4.0. The vote will end on November 15, 2024. That will give some days to prepare the update. If your wiki have allready decided or have an existing vote please leave a message here with a link to the vote/result. Please note that if there are no comments or protests it will be taken as a support for the change per [[:m:Requesting wiki configuration changes]]. We will appriciate any help to make sure this vote is announced the correct places and the text is translated with a translator so if there are any errors please help correct it. If the local policy have different rules than the one we suggest please correct as soon as possible. === Vote === The vote end on November 15, 2024. All users with more than 250 good edits can vote. Question: Do you support to upgrade to CC-BY-4.0 too on the same date as English Wikinews upgrade their license?" So perhaps we need a new section where you add the final conclusion (English Wikinews will update per <date> and we will send out a message to all versions of Wikinews to try to get everyone else to update too) and perhaps also a section where we can keep track of the progress (and can discuss the wording of the message to other wikis). Maybe we can use the page I created: [[User:MGA73/Licenseupgrade]]. If you think we can move it to a new name so its not in my namespace (Wikinews:Water cooler/policy/License_update_2024 for example). [[User:MGA73|MGA73]] ([[User talk:MGA73|talk]]) 15:16, 4 October 2024 (UTC) :That's a lot to unpack. ツ I'll try to go point-by point: :* {{tq|So can we say that the other WN will also upgrade so therefore the final result is a Yes, English Wikinews upgrade to CC-BY-4.0? Or do we have to wait for the final result from all the wikis or from a RFC on meta?}} Would it be better to say something along the lines of 'English Wikinews will upgrade on date X. Other Wikinews projects are managing their processes internally and independent of English Wikinews.' I think waiting for all other language projects to align and work through things would be time-consuming and detrimental to maintaining momentum for the ones who want to move forward. And I would hope that a change in share-ability (due to license incompatibility) might spur action. I think it's best to post this conclusion after en.WN has all pages prepped (edit-protected pages are all that we think are left). Once that is done we could come up with a date and post the message to all language projects. ::* Related; {{tq|To complete the change we need to file a request on Phabricator. To make it easier we plan to make one request for all the versions of Wikinews that will change the license.}} Should we instead provide each language project with instructions on how to do so? That way we all aren't held up and can instead each work at the pace our projects can support. :* {{tq|As I understand it some wikis wait for the result from English Wikinews before they do anything. So it is a very slow process to get anywhere.}} Agreed. I think the only thing holding en.WN up is the edit-protected pages and [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] has committed to making those changes over the next few days. 🤞 :* {{tq|Please note that if there are no comments or protests it will be taken as a support for the change per [[:m:Requesting wiki configuration changes]].}} My reading of the linked document is that it does not state an absence of comments or protests are interpreted as a vote of {{support}}. I understand it to instead be summarized as 'you had your chance.' "[I]t should be enough to show that you have tried to gain consensus, and that you have given an opportunity for objections." It might be a difference without a distinction, but for such a formal and impacting procedure, it may be worth sticking very closely to what the Meta page stipulates. Maybe the verbiage could be along the lines of :::"A lack of opposition or absence of comments during the polling period is not automatically considered support. Rather, it reflects that participants had their opportunity to express their views. If no objections are raised, the poll will default to a 'proceed' action, assuming no opposition was voiced." :* {{tq|If you think we can move it to a new name so its not in my namespace...}} I agree and I am unsure of where that should be moved to. Since it's in your user space, it will be cleanest if you or an admin move it. :Thanks for sticking with and managing this! —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 16:32, 4 October 2024 (UTC) Lol yes it was a lot. Sorry about that. But I think we have to figure these things out. The reason I suggest that we coordinate the change of license is because then it can happen on the same day and as you can see on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/mediawiki-config/browse/master/wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php$10882 all wikinews have the same license per default. If the wikis change separately then some dev (or whoever make the changes) have to edit several times and add each wiki separately. So my plan and hope is that we can get all or most to change. If lets say 3 wikis do not want us to change then we can say on phabricator that "Please change the default license for wikinews to cc-by-4.0 but make exceptions for these tree wikinews: Foo1, Foo2 and Foo3 (they stay with cc-by-2.5 unless they decide otherwise later).". I agree that it is perhaps a bit too much to say that no comments = support. I just wanted the wikis to know that the change will also happen if there are no protests. So that if they ignore this vote the license will change. So perhaps the conclusion can be as you suggested but with a little addition: 'English Wikinews will upgrade on date X. Other Wikinews projects are formally managing their processes internally and independent of English Wikinews however the magical M@M duo will try to coordinate a joined change of license on all Wikinews projects at the same date.' And if we want to do it like that then we need to chose a date that is minimum 1 month away. If we do that then Gryllida have plenty of time to fix the pages while we set up the messages/votes on all the other versions of Wikinews. But of course we can also do as as you suggest and change license on English Wikinews and write to all the other versions of Wikinews that English Wikinews have changed and then still try to make all the other change license too. --[[User:MGA73|MGA73]] ([[User talk:MGA73|talk]]) 21:35, 5 October 2024 (UTC) == Please review now == Hi Michael.C.Wright I've written these two news articles: * [[New Zealand Navy ship HMNZS Manawanui capsizes one nautical mile from shore]] (event October 9 Saturday) * [[Rio Negro tributary of the Amazon River experiences lowest water level on record]] (event this Friday) Please, review them now. I purposedfully wrote them short and as few sources as possible. If something is not verifiable, please take it out or leave a note. Many thanks. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 04:40, 7 October 2024 (UTC) :Edit: the second story was published by RockerballAustralia (thanks!). The first one is still in queue. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:49, 7 October 2024 (UTC) :Queue: *3* in total: Monday (1), Tuesday (2). It is currently *Wednesday*. One breaking story (hurricane). 🥺🥺🥺 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:24, 9 October 2024 (UTC) ::I will have less time to dedicate to reviewing this month. I will also have at least two, maybe more periods of no access. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:24, 9 October 2024 (UTC) == Notes about reviewing == Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] I am very happy to see you around helping with the reviews following your successful application for Reviewer. I believe you are very good at wikification (a point I am not doing well) and at reading the sources to verify the information. This is very good. For future I would suggest to increase your "sense of urgency" by pinging the article authors on the article talk page to attract their attention. This is probably something that the software should do automatically. I will inquire at the technical water cooler about this shortly. I am wondering what other reviewers would suggest to you (@[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]]? @[[User:Acagastya|Acagastya]]? @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]]? Last 3 active reviewers I believe) for feedback. Have a good day. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:20, 7 October 2024 (UTC) :Thanks for posting this. Hopefully others will respond. :I can work at creating more of a sense of urgency. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:34, 9 October 2024 (UTC) == Yes please update leads == Hi Michael.C.Wright When I am editing from mobile or among noisy environment I don't touch the leads -- easy to mess up. Please continue to update it when you have a moment. There was no decision against it. I will try to do it also as often as I can. Thank you. :-) Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:45, 7 October 2024 (UTC) :Will do... —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:24, 9 October 2024 (UTC) h7pkctgd3ifxeyylmpf39ah2snbj1gh 4804289 4804255 2024-11-09T03:01:37Z Revibot I 1627724 Bot: Archiving 1 thread from [[User talk:Michael.C.Wright]] 4804289 wikitext text/x-wiki - == User page deletion == I have requested my user page on Wikinews be deleted. I am not requesting my user account here be deleted. I'm hoping the verbiage on the banner is incorrect. I have created a global user page with meta.[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Michael.C.Wright] I would like to use the one profile for all wiki sister projects. An example is my profile on commons: [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Michael.C.Wright User:Michael.C.Wright] is actually the global user page [[wikipedia:Help:Transclusion|transcluded]] to commons. Thank you! [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User talk:Michael.C.Wright|talk]]) 14:42, 14 March 2023 (UTC) :Well, it is impossible for technical reasons to delete an account, even for stewards/global sysops, so at worst the request would just be declined. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 14:44, 14 March 2023 (UTC) ::Okay. That sounds promising. If there are any questions about global accounts, here is the page on meta: [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_user_pages Global user pages]. ::Thank you for the clarification. ::[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User talk:Michael.C.Wright|talk]]) 14:58, 14 March 2023 (UTC) == Awards == {|style="border: 8px solid gray; background-color: #fdff7;" |rowspan="2" valign="middle" | [[Image:Pencil tip closeup 2.JPG|160px]] |rowspan="2" | |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 2; vertical-align: middle; height: .4em;" | '''The Order of the Humble Pencil''' <br> For completing ''5 edits''. |- |style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | |} {|style="border: 8px solid gray; background-color: #fdff7;" |rowspan="2" valign="middle" | [[Image:Pencil tip closeup 2.JPG|160px]] |rowspan="2" | |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 2; vertical-align: middle; height: .4em;" | '''The Order of the Modest Pencil''' <br> {{{1|{{{for|For getting your first article published!}}}}}} |- |style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | {{{2|{{{message|A very thoroughly researched one, too! And good to see you're looking through the archives-one can gain a lot of insight into the history, people, and rules of ''Wikinews'' by doing that. --[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 04:54, 15 March 2023 (UTC)}}}}}} |} :Thank you [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] for the awards! [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User talk:Michael.C.Wright|talk]]) 15:30, 15 March 2023 (UTC) == Category == You can create a [[:Category:Wikinews authors|Wikinewsie category]] for yourself to keep track of your articles, if you want, by the way. Also you can add the correct one of [[Wikinews:Contributing Reporter Awards|these]] to your user page, if you want. It's just for fun, really. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 16:14, 23 March 2023 (UTC) :Thanks! Will do. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User talk:Michael.C.Wright|talk]]) 16:50, 23 March 2023 (UTC) == Senate just voted for 2002 AUMF repeal == [https://apnews.com/article/senate-repeal-iraq-war-authorization-85be03d5aedc8a28459195160bfaad3c?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=TopNews&utm_campaign=position_01 FYI]. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 17:36, 29 March 2023 (UTC) :Yeah. I planned on writing something today. Thanks. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:35, 30 March 2023 (UTC) == [[US appeals court upholds ruling lawyer for ex-President Trump must cooperate with federal investigation]] == This did go stale. I do want to say: please check the edit history and its "diffs" (click "prev" in the history) after each review (including on this article) to see what you can improve in the future. Addressing those things can significantly speed up review. There just wasn't the time to finish this. Reviewing often is, in my experience, actually much more labor-intensive than writing, which did surprise me. You write detailed articles with a lot of background, which I appreciate, and I don't intend to discourage that, but it is a fact they require more time to review (not necessarily a bad thing). [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 00:18, 30 March 2023 (UTC) ::Since it is stale and now needs Gatwicked, I don't plan on continuing work on that article unless another editor or reviewer see's benefit in me doing so. There will certainly be more news on that subject for us to cover in the future. ::I do know my articles take more time to review and I am sympathetic to that fact. I actively seek recommendations from reviewers on ways to prepare an article for easier review. I've also [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/technical#Wikinews_editing_and_reviewing_template_feature_request|proposed technical changes]] that I think will benefit both authors and reviewers here. ::From my brief experience with Wikinews, the review process is one key hinderance to Wikinews being agile and able to produce timely, relevant articles. If we can figure out how to make that process easier and more efficient without reducing the thoroughness of the process, I believe we'd make progress. ::Regarding the length of the articles I write; I read through the sources you linked at a recent [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Comments|discussion at the water cooler]], specifically other comments at the Meta page [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_English_Wikinews Proposals for closing projects/Closure of English Wikinews]. There are comments such as "...a lot of these are very short" and "...none of them has any real depth." I ''generally'' agree with those comments. ::A short Wikinews article that is not original reporting is more than likely, mostly a paraphrase of existing news. In those cases, it provides little value to Wikinews readers above what they'd get from the original news source. The value I try to bring is providing deeper background and synthesis — synthesis of sources to provide a richer background, not in arriving at new or unique conclusions. ::I'm not a journalist and won't be doing much, if any original reporting. Therefore, the value I can bring is mainly articles with more depth and cohesion between articles, i.e., tracking news developments regarding AUMFs over the course of multiple articles. ::I know you aren't trying to discourage longer articles. I'm offering here a bit of explanation into motive, in hopes of furthering the discussion around improving the writing and reviewing process because I do see that as a core hurdle hindering the number and depth of articles, ''generally speaking''. ::[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:31, 30 March 2023 (UTC) == Specialty Coffee Expo == Did you ever end up getting to go to that? If you did and just haven't written it up yet, there's certainly still time per precedent for OR (and the rules are bent more often for OR than synthesis; looking back, the last OR pieces of comparable significance were from about 2014). BTW, I must have been pressed for time when I first saw what you wrote above. I just read it in full, and you clearly [[wikt:grok|grok]] the problems we face, and offer good solutions. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 21:17, 10 May 2023 (UTC) :I did [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnYNnnPxInA&list=PLCcuGXzqCcKBDA8TEInz-qOMwn-gPi6AS three on-camera interviews] but two of the three were quite coffee-centric and I didn't think that was a good angle for a general audience at wikinews. I thought about doing spot interviews of random attendees but ended up prioritizing other networking while there. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:54, 15 May 2023 (UTC) ::It's understandable to a general audience and interesting (in my view); not as niche as many of the articles in [[:Category:Halloween]] (specifically, the Haunters Conventions). That could be a great article even with just minimal text introduction (depending on how much time you have to work on it). [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 15:51, 15 May 2023 (UTC) ::Sorry for butting in here. ::Just wanted to say that I would find such an article of interest. I am saying this as a reader of Wikinews who knows coffee tastes good and that's about all I know, [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 16:20, 15 May 2023 (UTC) ::Documenting the event (assuming you have additional photographs) and interspersing it with bits and pieces from the interviews surely would be newsworthy [[:WN:OR]]. The full videos of the interviews could then be linked (if uploaded to Commons) for those coffee aficionados who want to get in deep. Or it could be an article about Indonesia's efforts to gain market share in the US. (Guessing the Ted Fishcer interview would be less applicable for the latter option.). Cheers, [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 17:42, 15 May 2023 (UTC) :::I should have time on Friday to dive deeper into this. I'm pleasantly surprised by the interest! [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 12:43, 16 May 2023 (UTC) ::::Sorry guys. I just didn't have time to do the article any justice. I had other priorities that needed my attention. The good news is that if things pan out the way I hope they will, I will have an opportunity to do some original reporting on coffee production in Africa. Fingers crossed! [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:14, 23 May 2023 (UTC) :::::Ah, OK. Well, Africa OR would be extra good, offer something the regular media usually does not (since they practically only cover Africa when something tragic or destabilizing happens). [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 15:10, 23 May 2023 (UTC) == Coffee quote == Hi again, {{PAGENAME}} I found a coffee quote for you at wikiqote. I hope you like it: <blockquote>Just the other day, I was in my neighborhood Starbucks, waiting for the post office to open. I was enjoying a chocolatey cafe mocha when it occurred to me that to drink a mocha is to gulp down the entire history of the New World. From the Spanish exportation of Aztec cacao, and the Dutch invention of the chemical process for making cocoa, on down to the capitalist empire of Hershey, PA, and the lifestyle marketing of Seattle's Starbucks, the modern mocha is a bittersweet concoction of imperialism, genocide, invention, and consumerism served with whipped cream on top. No wonder it costs so much. ~ [[q:Sarah Vowell]]</blockquote> [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 15:39, 20 May 2023 (UTC) :Nice! Thanks for sharing. Wikiquote is a project I've been interested in contributing to, just never have. :One of the coffee quotes I've collected: "Good communication is as stimulating as black coffee, and just as hard." - Anne Spencer :And there's always the very quotable Dave Grohl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=fhdCslFcKFU :[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:22, 23 May 2023 (UTC) == Advice on getting an article reviewed == Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], I really appreciate your contributions here and I wanted to reach out to you for advice on how to get my first article reviewed. I originally wrote it as a prepared story two days in advance of an event on February 16-17, but then I was unable to get a complete review. I have [[WN:GATWICK]]ed the article several times since then, but I fear this will be its last chance to get reviewed before it goes stale and gets deleted. I've reached out to five administrators and several other reviewers in the last three weeks but all have either said they are too busy to review it or not responded yet. The article is here: [[Two world records fall at the World Athletics Indoor Championships]]. Understanding that you are not a reviewer, do you have any advice for me such as ideas to improve the article and bring it up to Wikinews standards, to make a future reviewer's workload easier and to increase the chances it will be published? Thank you, --[[User:Habst|Habst]] ([[User talk:Habst|talk]]) 21:37, 4 March 2024 (UTC) :I'm glad you're sticking with it and really trying to contribute. :Here are some quick tips—things to keep in mind that I've learned along the way (and don't always achieve myself). In some of the tips I provide specifics for you. Hopefully this helps! :* Longer articles with many sources take longer to review. :** The review process here is pretty stringent and thorough. In my experience, the reviewers seem to read every sourced article. :** Be sure to remove sources if facts you use are established in another of your sources (I make this mistake frequently) :** Wikinews definitely benefits from longer, in-depth articles and I personally prefer to write longer articles with a lot of background. ''However'', they are harder to get published. Pick your poison. ;) :* The title states the main point of the article. If your title mentions two broken world records, that's what the article should talk about; who, what, when, where, why, and how two world records were broken. This is the [[WN:5W&H]] :** Based on your title and the lede, how does the last section of the article fit? If you could cut that entire last section and sources associated with it, that could help the reviewer. :**Similarly with the second section. The second section doesn't mention Bol, Charlton, or the two broken world records. :* In longer, more complicated articles, I indicate to the reviewer my source for a given statement or paragraph. I do this using HTML comments. You can see it in pre-reviewed versions of some of my articles.[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=US_Supreme_Court_blocks_stay_on_federal_regulation_on_privately_made_firearms&action=edit&oldid=4740630] Look for text such as this: <code><nowiki><!--Source: Everytown--></nowiki></code> :** That tells the reviewer that a specific fact or statement can be found in a specific article. :** The reviewer removes them as they review the article so they aren't in published versions. :** Not all reviewers see or use those comments. :* Be sure to structure your article according to [[WN:PYRAMID]]. :** Readers get hooked by your title and are reeled in by your lede :** Your lede should answer the 5w's and summarize the entire article (and should be able to stand alone) :I like the style in which you've written the article. I would recommend looking at past sports articles that have been published on Wikinews to see the format and style they followed. I'm not saying you should robotically follow them, but they will show you what is acceptable. I seem to recall I had an article with sections and the sections were removed as part of the review process...I'll look to see if I can find it. :For whatever reason, things are really quiet here right now. No new articles have been published since January 4th. I had an article go stale without review last month. I just posted another for review today and intentionally kept the article as short and to-the-point as possible in an attempt to make it as easy as possible to get something new posted. Maybe for your first article and given the quietness we're currently seeing, you cut down your article to the smallest size you can stomach so that you can go through the review process and experience it. :Based on the dates of the articles included by the {{tl|athletics}} infobox, we could really use a sports writer! :[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 23:16, 4 March 2024 (UTC) ::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], thank you so much for your detailed advice. I have changed the title and the lede keeping this in mind, so that the main point is communicated clearly and is reflected in the title and body. I'll work on adding the HTML-comment inline source attributions if anything isn't clear. ::It seems like [[US Supreme Court Rules Unanimously, Keeping Trump On Colorado Ballot|your new article]] (which I do appreciate) has just been taken out from under review today ― this is the same thing that happened to my article before it went stale, so I fear the same thing will happen to yours. I was wondering if, based on Asheiou's response to your question at [[Wikinews:Flagged revisions/Requests for permissions/Asheiou]], could you please vote (not asking you to vote one particular way or another)? I think your input is important, because you are one of the two or three active community members who are writing articles this year (technically, there are zero members who have published articles since Jan 4) and the requester is uncomfortable with taking reviewer action without community consensus. Thank you, --[[User:Habst|Habst]] ([[User talk:Habst|talk]]) 16:00, 7 March 2024 (UTC) :::I do intend to vote but I would like to hear more from Asheiou as well as other editors. I find Bawolff's comments interesting and would like to hear more about that as well—specifically what a new version of the review process might look like. :::I like that enWikinews has a stringent and thorough review process. I appreciate the feedback I've gotten from reviewers and feel the resultant, published articles are always better than what I posted for review. But the lack of reviewers to perform that process is effectively blocking new content. One quick and easy solution to that is to simply add more reviewers. And one unintended consequence of that may be reduced quality in the review process. :::I am interested in hearing what other editors ask Asheiou and what her answers are. If no one else asks questions, I'll ask more. But right now I don't want to dominate the process by peppering her with my own questions. :::Lastly, I've had four articles go stale so far. I've gatwicked a couple and let a couple more go unpublished. As frustrating as that is—to spend the time putting an article together only to have it not reviewed and be deleted—I don't want to rush the process simply to get one article reviewed. I'd like to explore a solution to the current log-jam that is least likely to cause new problems later. If that means another, complete overhaul of the review system, I'd like to hear ideas of what that looks like. :::I don't think we're at a stage where we should improvise a solution (but I'm open to be proven otherwise). The way I see it, raw page-views of en.wikinews surprisingly aren't dropping.[https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/en.wikinews.org/reading/total-page-views/normal|bar|2-year|~total|monthly] That obviously won't last without new content. But I think we have some time yet to be intentional. :::[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 16:54, 7 March 2024 (UTC) == Hi. == I started a new story hopefully I can get more information soon, thanks, also if you need anything don't hesitate to ask me, thanks!!! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:16, 19 March 2024 (UTC) :[[File:Thumbs-up-icon.svg|Thumbs-up-icon]] I posted on the Collab page of the new article. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 00:32, 20 March 2024 (UTC) ::Thanks! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:30, 20 March 2024 (UTC) ::Have a good night Michael. Talk soon. Thanks for the helping hands! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:45, 20 March 2024 (UTC) == PGP?? == What is this PGP key business??--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 18:58, 27 March 2024 (UTC) :PGP is encryption software.[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy] Individuals can use my PGP key to encrypt messages to me. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 19:36, 27 March 2024 (UTC) :It can also be used to verify identity, sign messages, etc. Unfortunately, it isn't very user friendly, so it never got the broad acceptance it should have. I've used it in some form or fashion for almost 30 years. I used to carry a copy on a 3.5" floppy. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 21:48, 28 March 2024 (UTC) == Article??? == Palestinians article close to publish or review??? Thnx [[Special:Contributions/64.39.81.54|64.39.81.54]] ([[User talk:64.39.81.54|talk]]) 21:25, 28 March 2024 (UTC) :Are you referring to the article titled "[[12 Palestinians, possibly more, drown trying to get aid parcels dropped into the sea]]?" If so, work is being done on it to get it ready for review. I'm not a reviewer, so I can only help get it ready prior to someone else reviewing it. You are also welcome to contribute to it. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] started the article and is currently the main contributor. You might check in with him to see how you can work together. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 21:31, 28 March 2024 (UTC) ::The IP is me Michael sorry for confusing [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:36, 28 March 2024 (UTC) :::Ahhh. I thought the three question marks (???) looked familiar. :::Whenever you feel it's ready for review, feel free to re-submit it. I just wanted to get some of the basic stuff ironed out before a reviewer maybe rejected it. The orange banner and [Not Ready] can be a de-motivator. ;) [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 23:13, 28 March 2024 (UTC) ::::In your opinion do you think it's ready? I'm not sure and I hope it doesn't go stale, lately my articles have been doing better. [[Special:Contributions/64.39.81.54|64.39.81.54]] ([[User talk:64.39.81.54|talk]]) 00:36, 29 March 2024 (UTC) :::::I think it could be published as is. It exceeds the [[WN:PROD|minimal amount of three sentences]]. If it were me, I'd expand it more. The CNN article presents three points of view that you could write about: Hamas would like the airdrops stopped, humanitarian bodies assert that Israel is using starvation as a weapon, and a US official says the amount of aid arriving by land is increasing. Both articles mention that the airdrops are located in a way that makes it more likely they'll land in the water. :::::This might be an odd way to look at it; but I'd personally expand the article at least enough so that the sections from "Have an opinion?" and lower all fall below the image on the left. That makes the article look better/fuller in my opinion. :::::The nonexistent [[:category:Gaza]] should also either be created or removed from the article. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:19, 29 March 2024 (UTC) ::::::FYI, there's already a [[:Category:Gaza Strip]]. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 14:57, 29 March 2024 (UTC) == Copyrighted == I thought they looked suspicious just saying. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 01:14, 9 April 2024 (UTC) :Yeah. They all look suspicious. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 01:34, 9 April 2024 (UTC) ::If you don't like suspicious, revert to remove copyright violations by editing and not copy-pasting the news, but "Amber Alert cancelled after B.C. infant" and "Rare 4.8 earthquake hits New Jersey and New York" does not like the copyright violations on news, such as the websites that copy-pasted edits, is not suspicious but it's normal. Yay. [[Special:Contributions/199.212.250.163|199.212.250.163]] ([[User talk:199.212.250.163|talk]]) 15:42, 9 April 2024 (UTC) == Hi Michael == How's my article looking so far? Thanks. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:18, 9 April 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] im going offline for now talk soon. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:26, 9 April 2024 (UTC) ::Which article? [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 18:23, 10 April 2024 (UTC) :::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Bargi_plant_in_central_Italy_felt_with_explosion [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:09, 10 April 2024 (UTC) ::::Without digging too deeply into it, I can see there are two broken (red) links. There are line-breaks or carriage returns in the middle of the first and third sentences. Remember also to attribute all images using {{tl|image}} and to describe the image with a full sentence, and mention it's a file image if it pre-dates the story. Those things should be corrected before a reviewer gets to it (to save their time). ::::If it were me, I'd also expand it with some background. Also, the article states "At least three people were killed and four other bodies are missing..." That implies we know four people are dead (four ''bodies''), but we don't, as of today.[https://apnews.com/article/italy-explosion-hydroelectric-plant-9bad887184d623bf7cf828fc03b5df53] You could improve that sentence by saying: "At least three people were killed and four others are missing..." [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 23:49, 10 April 2024 (UTC) == New article == I submitted a new article. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:10, 17 April 2024 (UTC) :I responded in the article talk page. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:49, 17 April 2024 (UTC) == When there's a long string of edits that need to be reverted == Like [[Special:Contributions/181.77.35.112|here]], instead of reverting them one by one, you can go back to the diff immediately before the first edit, like [[Special:Diff/4776306]], click the edit tab, and then save. That reverts everything afterwards and is a lot faster. Also, you can warn disruptive users if you want, but there's no requirement to on this project. Thanks for your work both on countervandalism and evaluating submissions, it is really helpful. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 14:50, 17 April 2024 (UTC) :I figured there had to be a better way of doing that. Thanks for the tip and the kind words. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:30, 17 April 2024 (UTC) == My word! == This is horribly past due! [[File:Wikinews WikiNoob.png|89px|left|This [[Wikinews:Contributing Reporter Awards|award]] is presented to new reporters who have started 10 or fewer news articles.]] ---[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:54, 17 April 2024 (UTC) <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> :Thanks! You know the interns routinely get pizza on Fridays, right? [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:58, 17 April 2024 (UTC) == And: if only for your perseverance, a Cool Cat award! == You deserve this! [[File:Cool Cat Barnstar 01.png|thumb|left|200px|You deserve this, you Cool Cat!]] ---[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:03, 17 April 2024 (UTC) <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> == Hey BigKrow == @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]], I was going to leave this message on your talk page, but there's some wonkiness with it. Your talk page is being [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:BigKrow&redirect=no redirected] to a template. Was that vandalism? The message is this: you don't have to delete the whole article [[Clear message after bomb threats three Tucson, Arizona area schools]] if you want to continue working on it. Just remove or completely change the last sentence and move on. Mistakes happen. Let me know if you need help fixing your talk page. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 02:06, 18 April 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] It still needs a lot of work but, I hopefully got rid of the Copyvios??? Thanks. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC) ::[[File:Thumbs-up-icon.svg|Thumbs-up-icon]] ::[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 02:21, 18 April 2024 (UTC) == IP harassment == I pinged @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] this needs to stop @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:47, 29 April 2024 (UTC) :Agreed. I think we should implement a long-term block on the entire IP range, as recommended here: [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:Bddpaux#Recommend_blocking_anonymous_only_from_199.212.250.0/24] and less clearly here: [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Admin_action_alerts#c-Michael.C.Wright-20240424012600-2607:FEA8:1F1D:8400:799:28CC:56E3:DF38-20240423215000]. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 16:58, 29 April 2024 (UTC) == Check User please == 2607:FEA8:1F1D:8400:FAF9:19F7:C1C3:D56 [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:49, 1 May 2024 (UTC) :It's likely our friend from Canada. An admin needs to block a couple of IP ranges to help combat the disruption. We had a temporary block of the IPv6 range but it expired. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:29, 14 May 2024 (UTC) == My user talk page == It was vandalised and now has nothing there anyway you or others might be able to restore? Thanks much. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:26, 26 April 2024 (UTC) :The vandalism is a rat's nest for sure. Was there more content that you are missing beyond the comments here: [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:DroofusUniversal.com/Annex&oldid=4774633]? [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 16:53, 26 April 2024 (UTC) ::That vandal account created that page and overrided my whole talk page, yes that is my entire history of my talk page, thank you for trying to help! @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:58, 26 April 2024 (UTC) :::It might take an admin to delete your current talk page and then to move [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:DroofusUniversal.com/Annex&oldid=4774633 this version of your old talk page] to your new/current talk page. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 16:59, 26 April 2024 (UTC) ::::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] thanks Michael. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:00, 26 April 2024 (UTC) :::::@[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] We found BigKrow's old talk page along with history here: [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:DroofusUniversal.com/Annex&oldid=4774633]. :::::I am unable to move that page to make it the current User_talk:BigKrow because that page already exists. I think it will take an admin to delete the current talk page and rename [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:DroofusUniversal.com/Annex&oldid=4774633 this version] to become the new/current User_talk:BigKrow. :::::<strike>I believe this may be how the talk page became a redirect in the first place. When you try to move a page, it gives this message: "Note that the page will not be moved if there is already a page at the new title, unless it is a redirect and has no past edit history." So I think someone was trying to fix it by making the talk page a redirect so they could then move it.</strike> [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 17:09, 26 April 2024 (UTC); edited [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 17:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC) ::::::Thanks everyone appreciate it. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:13, 26 April 2024 (UTC) :::::::I struck part of my earlier comment. The redirect was created with the first move/rename of the talk page. But then somehow a template was involved and a rat's nest ensued. If only the vandals would focus that energy into ''constructive'' editing. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 17:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC) ::::::::I know, right, sigh.... [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:25, 26 April 2024 (UTC) :::::::::* Posting to simply prevent auto-archive. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:51, 19 May 2024 (UTC) == Pre-review == For the sake of chatter: I'm not opposed to that process. We could use a bit of streamlining in that regard. I look forward to seeing how it might play out over a year or so.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 01:55, 30 May 2024 (UTC) == Hi. == Just saying hi, we haven't talked in awhile, hope you're well. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 02:34, 4 June 2024 (UTC) :Hello! Yes, I was AFK for a few days. We took a long weekend in the mountains for some R&R. Things weren't quiet around here I see, LOL. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:35, 4 June 2024 (UTC) ::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], Welcome back! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:44, 4 June 2024 (UTC) == Mistakes == Hi, Michael @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], I messed up the Texas weather article by mistake, any help? Thanks. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:26, 4 June 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:36, 4 June 2024 (UTC) == Boston Celtics defeat Dallas Mavericks == Hello, please review the article I wrote about the Celtics' win against the Mavs. Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/173.76.102.69|173.76.102.69]] ([[User talk:173.76.102.69|talk]]) 19:21, 19 June 2024 (UTC) :Please note I am not a reviewer and can neither review nor publish articles. However, I may have time today to take a look at it and make some suggestions. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:25, 21 June 2024 (UTC) == pre-review == I give you all the credit in the world for working on it, Cheers!!! [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:57, 11 July 2024 (UTC) :Thanks, but it is a team sport. ツ Hopefully it develops into something helpful. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 17:03, 11 July 2024 (UTC) ::Sounds good, but I also wanted to thank you for your work on your testing pre-review! @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:05, 11 July 2024 (UTC) == OMG CAT TITS account == Is that name appropriate for wikinews? Thanks just curious sounds like a possibility of a bad editor. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:31, 19 August 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], this one too Manifestation of the Witch's Titty [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:33, 19 August 2024 (UTC) ::{{user2|OMG CAT TITS}} ::If you find it offensive, I recommend raising the issue at [[WN:AAA]], where administrators (or possibly global stewards) can review it in accordance with our username policy ([[WN:U]]). If you do post to WN:AAA, it is always helpful to use the {{tl|user2}} template, which links to the user page, talk page, contribs page, etc. It's what I used just above. ::Alternatively, you could also address your concerns directly with the user on their talk page. I agree that the username is not indicative of someone who intends to contribute constructively to the project, and it may indeed be a violation of our policy. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:04, 20 August 2024 (UTC) :::Same with {{user2|Manifestation of the Witch's Titty}}. I don't see how that username indicates someone who is serious about writing news articles and I can see how it could be offensive to some. –[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:07, 20 August 2024 (UTC) == Pings inter wiki == I think they work. I just pinged you on another wiki, did you get it? Needed to type your name manually, just "@Michael.C." offered no results there (it does show your account name here for that). [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:41, 29 August 2024 (UTC) :It worked, but maybe because you posted on my user-talk page there, whereas when I tried it from a regular page, the other user didn't seem to get pinged. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:34, 29 August 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], interwiki pings do work (but I think the user might need to have an account on that wiki). [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 11:42, 30 August 2024 (UTC) ::interesting , important condition [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:52, 30 August 2024 (UTC) == Continuing discussion from your reviewer request... == It's getting off topic so Ill reply here... Mainly the fact that I've essentially been here for under 4 months, and I only have 11-12 published articles (much lower than virtually any reviewer). Also, I haven't done or pre-reviewed any OR, and there was a pre-review where I didn't really know the policy on something. Yes, I would like to become a reviewer, but do you (or anyone else) think that I am ready for it? [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 16:41, 30 August 2024 (UTC) :I think you would learn it quickly and if there were an active reviewer willing and able to mentor you, it could work. You also figure out the mechanics of Mediawiki quickly (i.e., how to update the Main page, templates, etc). You are persistent and can be dogged with certain things. One of the things I learned from my block at WP is that some people don't take doggedness too well, justifiably or not. If your goal is to collaborate more and work towards consensus more, consider trying to figure out how to adjust that doggedness or more importantly how it's presented so that it is more-often perceived as collaborative rather than combative. I have to work very hard on that myself. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 17:58, 30 August 2024 (UTC) ::Thank you. I see that we have now arrived at the point in every discussion about improving Wikinews, the "this could work if there were active reviewers". Hopefully you being a reviewer can help with that. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 18:34, 30 August 2024 (UTC) :::http://quassel-irc.org :::Do you have a list of your published articles somewhere? @[[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] :::Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:38, 31 August 2024 (UTC) ::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] nah, just check the 20 most recent published articles, the majority are mine... [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 00:55, 1 September 2024 (UTC) == [[Google reports thirteen percent increase in greenhouse gas emissions]] == Hi, I am going through Newsroom deleting stale articles. I just found the one linked in section heading. I enjoyed the read and it looks like an important topic that is not immediately stale if they're still having that increased energy usage. Would you be interested in interviewing Google and several major giants (Microsoft, Facebook/Meta, OpenAI) about this, for example, by video call or email? If so, the first step would be to add a note on article that it is being worked on to do interview, and make a list of questions on the talk page. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 20:02, 9 September 2024 (UTC) == [[Special:Diff/4797232|This]]... == ...was human error, I was aiming for the 'thank' link but the mouse slipped. Thought I'd let you know. Thanks for the tag. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:54, 9 September 2024 (UTC) :Ahh, no worries. Thanks for letting me know! —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 12:47, 10 September 2024 (UTC) == [[Special:Diff/4796888]] == Could this be also marked as abandoned? It was not edited for many days before. (Perhaps the 'stale' template could automatically change itself to Abandoned if no edits were made for N days. I haven't explored how this could work from technical perspective, yet.) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:08, 9 September 2024 (UTC) :Yes. :{{tq|Perhaps the 'stale' template could automatically change itself to Abandoned if no edits were made for N days.}} The CategoryTests extension[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTests] might be useful in that situation, but it isn't installed. I have tried to use it with a Pre-review category to automate certain maintenance functions around that template. :I'm not sure how to accurately test for the duration an article has been in a given category. Perhaps DPL could be used if we had a more robust version of DPL. But also, I believe Mediawiki is replacing DPL eventually. It has caused problems when used heavily by a project, specifically ru.WN on their main page. :Anyway if we can figure out how to automatically change categories based on duration in one or another given category, we could use the function in {{tl|copyvio}} as well, to mark violations with speedy delete after 48 hours of being in [[:Category:Copyright violations]]. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:19, 10 September 2024 (UTC) == Congratulations on the successful request for Reviewer permissions == Hi [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] Congratulations on the <span class="plainlinks">[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews:Flagged_revisions/Requests_for_permissions/Michael.C.Wright&diff=prev&oldid=4797553 successful request]</span> for Reviewer permissions. You are now able to formally review and publish articles. After the review you will be presented with a step to add the new published article to home page. There are several places where you can ask a question: * [[User talk:Michael.C.Wright|This talk page]] is likely being watched by several contributors involved in discussions at the request. * Article talk page, if related to article and contributors are being helpful. * [[Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance]] can be used to discuss concerns worth keeping, in case they apply to more than one article. (Other sections of water cooler exist for policy, technical, proposals, and miscellaneous issues.) * [[Wikinews:AAA|Administrator noticeboard (AAA)]] in case sysop action like a block or a page deletion is required. * [[Wikinews:IRC|Live chat]] for real time discussions, with '#wikinews-en' for English Wikinews, and '#wikinews' for international-related or translations-related discussions that may require attention from other language editions, and '#wikinews-tech' for technical discussions. Please let me know if you need help at any point. Again, welcome to reviewing; thanks for volunteering, and have a great day! Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:05, 12 September 2024 (UTC) :Thank you. I look forward to working with you. I know I can rely on you for advice and mentorship. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:11, 12 September 2024 (UTC) == Re: the helicopter story == I have just replied to you at the article talk page. (Please advise whether you want to continue getting such notes on your personal talk page, or you already receive Notifications through the wiki.) Thanks and best regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:11, 14 September 2024 (UTC) :I have my preferences set up so that any page I edit gets added to my watchlist automagically. I also keep an eye on the ''recent changes'' special page. With our low volume of edits, that combination keeps me pretty much up-to-date. :Pings and/or heads-up are always welcome on my talk page, as long as the necessary discussion remains as centralized as possible. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:24, 14 September 2024 (UTC) == scoop access == Hi, congratulations on receiving the reviewer bits! As I understand, now as a reviewer, you should be granted the scoop access. Would you be able to hop in on IRC some time, so I can talk to you about it and grant you the access, so you can proceed with reviewing ORs? [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 16:26, 13 September 2024 (UTC) :I am on it now (nick: MichaelCWright) and just sent a message to you there. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 16:46, 13 September 2024 (UTC) ::Sorry, I got an important work in between and I had to leave, so I could not detail everything. However, I will use the EmailUser feature to send you information later today. Once I get the acknowledgement on that, I shall create the email. By the way, do you use any email client on your computer?<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 02:06, 14 September 2024 (UTC) :::I am fine with just using webmail to check Scoop, I won't need to configure any email app for that, if that is what you are asking. I will likely configure my Scoop account to forward emails to my personal account, if that is possible. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:27, 14 September 2024 (UTC) :::I have not received anything via EmailUser. Did you send it? I have alternative contact info on my userpage. Thank you, [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:26, 21 September 2024 (UTC) == Wikibreak (over) == I'll be offline for up to the next seven days and won't be checking in during that time. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:32, 15 September 2024 (UTC) :Are you still there by any chance? The helicopter story looks ready, and freshness is about to expire now. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:36, 15 September 2024 (UTC) ::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] pinged. Please respond. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 23:43, 15 September 2024 (UTC) :::[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] & [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], sorry I missed your requests! As soon as I signed off here, I hit the road for a long-planned backpacking trip. I am back now. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 14:27, 21 September 2024 (UTC) ::::Welcome back. Wow, that sounds good. I hope you enjoyed the trip. ::::In the newsroom there is a story which I edited, about the exploded pagers, which I cannot review. ::::Could you please skim all stories in review queue and pick something that looks relatively easy to publish? I keep finding something to pick on and not publishing anything. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:10, 21 September 2024 (UTC) == Congratulations == Didn't get a chance to congratulate you before you left. Not sure there was really a consensus there (only one reviewer weighed in) but fine. We all know what happened last time; and I don't want to create the impression I'm trying to stir up drama by doing this repeatedly. I may not have opposed, actually (wow, what a vote of confidence). I just wanted to say, of any of the regulars who weren't reviewers, I'd have trusted you to handle the job best because of your knowledge of your own limited knowledge (of course, there's what you do know, too) &mdash; and I can see you demonstrating that already. Did I mention [[WN:Tips on reviewing articles]] at some point? Really, really helpful. I use the checklist every time (you mentioned you developed your own checklist based on a 2010 discussion, but this one's been kept up to date and it's just detailed enough). [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 05:59, 23 September 2024 (UTC) :Thank you. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:41, 23 September 2024 (UTC) == Prime Minister of Canada Justin Trudeau survives a no confidence vote == Thanks for reviewing the article. The article on the main page where there is a photo, still has Prime Minister of Canada Justin Trudeau passes confidence vote title. [[User:BilboBeggins|BilboBeggins]] ([[User talk:BilboBeggins|talk]]) 17:15, 28 September 2024 (UTC) :I got this fixed. It could have been that I chose the wrong article from the widget/gadget that helps update the lead articles on the main page after one published an article. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:30, 4 October 2024 (UTC) == California ied article == Getting close to staleness if not already hoping u can review it again? Thanks. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 14:27, 30 September 2024 (UTC) :For some reason I missed this message, I do apologize. :I would have published it per my pre-review, but @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] still has it under review. It has now gone stale and will need to be [[WN:Gatwicking|Gatwicked]] and re-reviewed to be published. :In hindsight, I'm not sure my plan as a new reviewer to pre-review articles that have time before going stale was a good idea. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:30, 4 October 2024 (UTC) == Vote about license upgrade == Hi! You have now added a conclusion ("Yes, WN upgrade to CC-BY-4.0 if the the other WN also upgrade."). Thank you for that! And I agree that it seems to be a fair description of what concensus is. But I think we need to clarify what that means. We know that some versions of wikinews want to change too. None that I know of had said no. But many have not made a formal vote and given a clear yes or no. So can we say that the other WN will also upgrade so therefore the final result is a Yes, English Wikinews upgrade to CC-BY-4.0? Or do we have to wait for the final result from all the wikis or from a RFC on meta? As I understand it some wikis wait for the result from English Wikinews before they do anything. So it is a very slow process to get anywhere. Also if we agree that it is a yes then we need to know which date the upgrade will take place. I think it would be good if we could send a message to all WN with something like this: "English Wikinews will change to CC-BY-4.0 with effect for all edits made from December 1, 2024 (or another date). Arabic Wikinews have allready changed, German, Polish, Chinese and Esperanto Wikinews have also decided to change or support to change. You can read about it at [[:en:Wikinews:Water cooler/policy#Update of license]]. We hope that you will also change license so we can continue to share articles across the different versions of Wikinews. To complete the change we need to file a request on Phabricator. To make it easier we plan to make one request for all the versions of Wikinews that will change the license. To be able to coordinate the change of license we will therefore start a vote here suggesting that you also update the license to CC-BY-4.0. The vote will end on November 15, 2024. That will give some days to prepare the update. If your wiki have allready decided or have an existing vote please leave a message here with a link to the vote/result. Please note that if there are no comments or protests it will be taken as a support for the change per [[:m:Requesting wiki configuration changes]]. We will appriciate any help to make sure this vote is announced the correct places and the text is translated with a translator so if there are any errors please help correct it. If the local policy have different rules than the one we suggest please correct as soon as possible. === Vote === The vote end on November 15, 2024. All users with more than 250 good edits can vote. Question: Do you support to upgrade to CC-BY-4.0 too on the same date as English Wikinews upgrade their license?" So perhaps we need a new section where you add the final conclusion (English Wikinews will update per <date> and we will send out a message to all versions of Wikinews to try to get everyone else to update too) and perhaps also a section where we can keep track of the progress (and can discuss the wording of the message to other wikis). Maybe we can use the page I created: [[User:MGA73/Licenseupgrade]]. If you think we can move it to a new name so its not in my namespace (Wikinews:Water cooler/policy/License_update_2024 for example). [[User:MGA73|MGA73]] ([[User talk:MGA73|talk]]) 15:16, 4 October 2024 (UTC) :That's a lot to unpack. ツ I'll try to go point-by point: :* {{tq|So can we say that the other WN will also upgrade so therefore the final result is a Yes, English Wikinews upgrade to CC-BY-4.0? Or do we have to wait for the final result from all the wikis or from a RFC on meta?}} Would it be better to say something along the lines of 'English Wikinews will upgrade on date X. Other Wikinews projects are managing their processes internally and independent of English Wikinews.' I think waiting for all other language projects to align and work through things would be time-consuming and detrimental to maintaining momentum for the ones who want to move forward. And I would hope that a change in share-ability (due to license incompatibility) might spur action. I think it's best to post this conclusion after en.WN has all pages prepped (edit-protected pages are all that we think are left). Once that is done we could come up with a date and post the message to all language projects. ::* Related; {{tq|To complete the change we need to file a request on Phabricator. To make it easier we plan to make one request for all the versions of Wikinews that will change the license.}} Should we instead provide each language project with instructions on how to do so? That way we all aren't held up and can instead each work at the pace our projects can support. :* {{tq|As I understand it some wikis wait for the result from English Wikinews before they do anything. So it is a very slow process to get anywhere.}} Agreed. I think the only thing holding en.WN up is the edit-protected pages and [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] has committed to making those changes over the next few days. 🤞 :* {{tq|Please note that if there are no comments or protests it will be taken as a support for the change per [[:m:Requesting wiki configuration changes]].}} My reading of the linked document is that it does not state an absence of comments or protests are interpreted as a vote of {{support}}. I understand it to instead be summarized as 'you had your chance.' "[I]t should be enough to show that you have tried to gain consensus, and that you have given an opportunity for objections." It might be a difference without a distinction, but for such a formal and impacting procedure, it may be worth sticking very closely to what the Meta page stipulates. Maybe the verbiage could be along the lines of :::"A lack of opposition or absence of comments during the polling period is not automatically considered support. Rather, it reflects that participants had their opportunity to express their views. If no objections are raised, the poll will default to a 'proceed' action, assuming no opposition was voiced." :* {{tq|If you think we can move it to a new name so its not in my namespace...}} I agree and I am unsure of where that should be moved to. Since it's in your user space, it will be cleanest if you or an admin move it. :Thanks for sticking with and managing this! —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 16:32, 4 October 2024 (UTC) Lol yes it was a lot. Sorry about that. But I think we have to figure these things out. The reason I suggest that we coordinate the change of license is because then it can happen on the same day and as you can see on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/mediawiki-config/browse/master/wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php$10882 all wikinews have the same license per default. If the wikis change separately then some dev (or whoever make the changes) have to edit several times and add each wiki separately. So my plan and hope is that we can get all or most to change. If lets say 3 wikis do not want us to change then we can say on phabricator that "Please change the default license for wikinews to cc-by-4.0 but make exceptions for these tree wikinews: Foo1, Foo2 and Foo3 (they stay with cc-by-2.5 unless they decide otherwise later).". I agree that it is perhaps a bit too much to say that no comments = support. I just wanted the wikis to know that the change will also happen if there are no protests. So that if they ignore this vote the license will change. So perhaps the conclusion can be as you suggested but with a little addition: 'English Wikinews will upgrade on date X. Other Wikinews projects are formally managing their processes internally and independent of English Wikinews however the magical M@M duo will try to coordinate a joined change of license on all Wikinews projects at the same date.' And if we want to do it like that then we need to chose a date that is minimum 1 month away. If we do that then Gryllida have plenty of time to fix the pages while we set up the messages/votes on all the other versions of Wikinews. But of course we can also do as as you suggest and change license on English Wikinews and write to all the other versions of Wikinews that English Wikinews have changed and then still try to make all the other change license too. --[[User:MGA73|MGA73]] ([[User talk:MGA73|talk]]) 21:35, 5 October 2024 (UTC) == Please review now == Hi Michael.C.Wright I've written these two news articles: * [[New Zealand Navy ship HMNZS Manawanui capsizes one nautical mile from shore]] (event October 9 Saturday) * [[Rio Negro tributary of the Amazon River experiences lowest water level on record]] (event this Friday) Please, review them now. I purposedfully wrote them short and as few sources as possible. If something is not verifiable, please take it out or leave a note. Many thanks. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 04:40, 7 October 2024 (UTC) :Edit: the second story was published by RockerballAustralia (thanks!). The first one is still in queue. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:49, 7 October 2024 (UTC) :Queue: *3* in total: Monday (1), Tuesday (2). It is currently *Wednesday*. One breaking story (hurricane). 🥺🥺🥺 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:24, 9 October 2024 (UTC) ::I will have less time to dedicate to reviewing this month. I will also have at least two, maybe more periods of no access. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:24, 9 October 2024 (UTC) == Notes about reviewing == Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] I am very happy to see you around helping with the reviews following your successful application for Reviewer. I believe you are very good at wikification (a point I am not doing well) and at reading the sources to verify the information. This is very good. For future I would suggest to increase your "sense of urgency" by pinging the article authors on the article talk page to attract their attention. This is probably something that the software should do automatically. I will inquire at the technical water cooler about this shortly. I am wondering what other reviewers would suggest to you (@[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]]? @[[User:Acagastya|Acagastya]]? @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]]? Last 3 active reviewers I believe) for feedback. Have a good day. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:20, 7 October 2024 (UTC) :Thanks for posting this. Hopefully others will respond. :I can work at creating more of a sense of urgency. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:34, 9 October 2024 (UTC) == Yes please update leads == Hi Michael.C.Wright When I am editing from mobile or among noisy environment I don't touch the leads -- easy to mess up. Please continue to update it when you have a moment. There was no decision against it. I will try to do it also as often as I can. Thank you. :-) Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:45, 7 October 2024 (UTC) :Will do... —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 13:24, 9 October 2024 (UTC) == Corrections == Hi. You probably saw the debacle with the pager explosions story that warranted a correction. I found one of the problems there &mdash; inaccuracy in dates &mdash; to also be present in the article on Ryan Routh's superseding indictment. In both cases, it seems likely you missed converting relative to cardinal dates. So please be more careful about this immediately pre-publication in the future. Both were also missing some important cats; the Tips on reviewing articles checklist prompts the reviewer on this. If you add a cat for a country, you have to add the relevant news region cat(s) as well; so [[:Category:Hungary]] needs to be accompanied by [[:Category:Europe]]. I have a habit of writing headlines that are too long, but if I were you, I would've added altered the headline to something a bit more unique (e.g. "golf course attempted assassination"). [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 23:39, 4 October 2024 (UTC) :Yes, I will pay closer attention to date conversions. I should have caught that. :That's one aspect that the pre-review process can't include so I'm unfortunately not in the habit of checking it. This is a good reason to have an active and seasoned reviewer on hand to address these things either before hand or within the 24-hour grace period immediately afterwords—so corrections aren't necessary. I'm not saying it was anyone else's fault, just that it would help new reviewers if we had some sort of a transition/training period for them. :Regarding the requirement for two geographical categories, I don't see that in [[Wikinews:Tips on reviewing articles]] or [[Wikinews:Reviewing articles]]. Tips says "At least one geographical category..." Am I missing something? :Also, how do you update the five lead templates? Do you normally do it manually—one at a time—or is there a widget/gadget/javascript page you use to move them? :Thanks as always for the help. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:47, 5 October 2024 (UTC) ::"it would help new reviewers if we had some sort of a transition/training period for them": Yeah, absolutely. I think it could've helped me a lot when I was new too. In the past, experienced reviewers would meet on IRC once or twice with a reviewer candidate or prospective candidate to co-review an article, perhaps with the newbie demonstrating how they would review the article, making edits on-wiki; the experienced reviewer could offer corrections and evaluate their readiness. ::That minimum requirement is accurate, although I can't think of a situation where a country cat wouldn't be needed. All I'm saying is when you do use a cat on an article, its parent cats need to be used as well. ::Oh, yeah, [[Wikinews:Make lead]] is the JS tool. I tend to use it except when I need to use the edit summary to explain the rationale for my editing or switching around leads others put on the Main Page. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 21:49, 9 October 2024 (UTC) bqx559lcp3n17r3us42lgpe23y604la Russian traveler presented an unusual textbook at the literary festival 0 3001231 4804271 4803320 2024-11-08T19:33:36Z BigKrow 2871522 Where? 4804271 wikitext text/x-wiki {{abandoned|October 8, 2024|}} {{tasks|npov|re-review}} {{date|September 19, 2024}} <!--leave this as it is--> ''Russian Wikinews'' attended one of the latest cultural events in [[Crimea]].<br> On September 18, 2024, the ''Crimean Republican Universal Scientific Library named after Ivan Franko'', located in the center of [[Simferopol]], hosted a creative evening "{{Translation note|''A pen, a notebook, an empty pocket and... all the continents in the palm of hand''|ru|Russian language|''Ручка, блокнот, пустой карман и… все континенты на ладони''}}", where a self-study book was presented, intended for travelers who are able to think creatively and literary display what they saw. The textbook "Hobo travel journalism", created by the author based on many years of experience, has two language versions — Russian and English, and is freely available on the [[Wikibooks]], allowing anyone to familiarize themselves with the material without wasting time searching. The presentation is timed to coincide with the 10th Literary Festival {{Translation note|''CrimeaBookFest-2024''|ru|Russian language|''КрымБукФест-2024''}}. The library staff retrieved newspapers from the archives containing publications by the author of the textbook, in particular an article published in the (now defunct) socio-political publication {{Translation note|''Crimean time''|ru|Russian language|''Крымское время''}}. The material with the revealing title “Notes of an international tramp” gives an objective idea of the direction indicated in the title of the textbook, and also clearly explains how it differs from a similar genre — travel journalism. The visitors to the creative meeting heard about such an unusual self-study guide and the topic covered in it for the first time. Most of the listeners of the current lecture were not present at the 8th CrimeaBookFest festival, where the same author presented the e-book [[b:Hobo tourism|"Hobo Tourism"]], the principles of which underlie the actions of a vagabond journalist, so the creator of the methodological manual began to familiarize the audience from scratch. After providing basic information about the unusual book, the lecturer informed the people that a small selection of articles from past years can be read on Wikisource, and there are translations into English, Spanish and Chinese. A slide show of photographs taken by the traveller on different continents served as a visual complement to what was said. <gallery mode="packed" heights="300" style="margin:auto"> Виктор Пинчук, КрымБукФест 2024 (1).jpg|Listeners: both old and young... КрымБукФест 2024.jpg|The author of the textbook and one of his works in journalism </gallery> '''Illustrations from articles by the creator of the textbook''' <gallery mode="packed" heights="200" style="margin:auto"> Herero woman (Namibia).jpg| {{w|Herero people|Herero}} — a random fellow traveler (Namibia) Бездомный (г. Гуанчжоу).jpg|Chinese homeless person (Guangzhou, China) В полицейском участке города Лаэ (Папуа-Новая Гвинея).jpg|Prisoners (Lae, {{w|Papua New Guinea|PNG}}) </gallery> {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == {{translated Wikinews|Российский путешественник Виктор Пинчук представил необычный учебник на литературном фестивале|ru|language=Russian}} {{original}} *{{source |url = https://dzen.ru/a/ZuErf8rwYgdCRL7C |title = Ручка, блокнот, пустой карман и… все континенты на ладони |author = |pub = Dzen |lang = ru |date = September 19, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://events.nethouse.ru/smf/108179/ |title = Ручка, блокнот, пустой карман и… все континенты на ладони |author = |pub = Nethouse |lang = ru |date = September 19, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.hashtap.com/@news.google/presentation-of-an-extravagant-journalism-textbook-took-place-in-crimea-eDpBy_XXe3p9 |title = Presentation of an extravagant journalism textbook took place in Crimea |author = |pub = Hashtap |lang = en |date = September 19, 2024 |archiveurl = }} [[Category:Europe]] [[Category:Russia]] [[Category:Crimea]] [[Category:Simferopol]] [[Category:Culture and entertainment]] [[Category:Books]] [[Category:Literature]] [[Category:Journalism]] [[Category:Tourism]] [[Category:Photo essays]] [[Category:Original reporting]] [[Category:Cultural travel]] [[Category:Viktor Pinchuk (1969)]] 7w3b0hhntg18paf2sw6fzigpiyfclq1 User:Виктор Пинчук/Russian traveler presents book with mysterious title in Yalta 2 3001456 4804270 4803319 2024-11-08T19:31:24Z BigKrow 2871522 Pretty sure it's aband, creator is parts unknown also. 4804270 wikitext text/x-wiki {{abandoned|October 8, 2024|}} {{tasks|npov|re-review}} {{date|September 24, 2024}} ''Russian Wikinews'' attended one of the latest cultural events in [[Crimea]].<br> On September 23, 2024, in the Central City Library of {{w|Yalta}}, located on the southern coast of Crimea, a creative meeting of the Russian travel-writer was held, at which a book with the strange title {{Translation note|''Mongolian Huivaldagch''|ru|Russian language|''Монгольский хуйвалдагч''}}. was presented, where the second word, borrowed from the Khalkha-Mongolian dialect, means "conspirator". However, the title is not the only case of the author using linguistic inclusions: the brochure is filled with expressions and phrases from the language of the descendants of the once formidable conqueror {{w|Genghis Khan}}, to whom, by the way, several pages are devoted in the book. The author told the story of the creation of the literary work, briefly described the road adventures and the route taken, and showed Mongolian photographs. The second part of the event was held in the format of a dialogue, where each of those present could ask the lecturer any question within the latter’s competence. <gallery mode="packed" heights="250" style="margin:auto"> Монгольский хуйвалдагч, презентация книги (3).jpg|Visitors to the creative meeting Монгольский хуйвалдагч, презентация книги (4).jpg|One copy will be donated to the library </gallery> == Illustrations from the book == <gallery mode="packed-hover" heights="200" style="margin:auto"> Cart (Mörön, Mongolia).jpg|Cart, Muren Erdene Zuu Monastery.jpg|{{w| Erdene Zuu Monastery }} Lake Khövsgöl.jpg|{{w|Lake Khövsgöl}} </gallery> <gallery mode="packed-hover" heights="200" style="margin:auto"> Ovoo (oboo).jpg|{{w| Ovoo}} — sacred place Street on the outskirts (Ulaanbaatar).jpg|{{w| Ulaanbaatar}}, city outskirts The owner of the yurt.jpg| In the {{w|yurt}} </gallery> {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == {{translated Wikinews| «Монгольский хуйвалдагч», российский путешественник представил книгу с загадочным названием|ru|language=Russian}} {{original}} *{{source |url = https://dzen.ru/a/ZupnEnS8iRQREaag |title = "Монгольский хуйвалдагч", презентация книги со странным названием пройдёт в Ялте |author = |pub = Dzen |lang = ru |date = September 24, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://events.nethouse.ru/all/109160/ |title = МОНГОЛЬСКИЙ ХУЙВАЛДАГЧ, презентация литературного произведения |author = |pub = Nethouse |lang = ru |date = September 24, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.hashtap.com/@news.google/the-presentation-of-book-with-an-unusual-title-took-place-in-crimea-0qw03zAJGVpN |title = The presentation of book with an unusual title took place in Crimea |author = |pub = Hashtap |lang = en |date = September 24, 2024 |archiveurl = }} [[Category:Europe]] [[Category:Russia]] [[Category:Crimea]] [[Category:Simferopol]] [[Category:Culture and entertainment]] [[Category:Books]] [[Category:Literature]] [[Category:Tourism]] [[Category:Photo essays]] [[Category:Original reporting]] [[Category:Cultural travel]] [[Category:Viktor Pinchuk (1969)]] [[Category:Mongolia]] rj57hk5jgdpt1nz43yc83uvt3mzny17 Lancet release yearly Countdown report raising alarm of increase in heat caused deaths 0 3003106 4804287 4803776 2024-11-09T02:52:35Z JohnSon12a 2869670 fixed typos, added degree symbol 4804287 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Environment}} {{date|November 4, 2024}} <!--leave this as it is--> Tuesday, {{w|The Lancent}} released the 2024 Lancet Countdown report updating on environmental issues noting an average person was exposed to 50 more days of dangerous temperatures this year compared with 2023. Other factors affecting health included extreme weather events, such as heat waves and floods, dust storms. 122 people including advisors from {{w|World Health Organization}}, agencies of [[United Nations]], and academic institutions contributed to the report. The report was on a global scale rather than a specific region such as Europe. The report included notes that less than 35% of countries were capable of assessing early symptoms of heat caused health issues, and less than 10% for mental issues pertaining to increased temperatures. The authors wrote this limited the resources available for prevention and for planning emergency response if needed. Additionally, in the report, the authors noted the fossil fuel industry was continuing to set up new mining sites, a concerning trend in light of ready availability and necessity to adopt renewable energy sources. The report included a summary of 15 parameters. The analysts wrote that in 2023, the planet was already 1.45 °C warmer than pre-industrial levels, and was on track to reach 2.7 °C heating by 2100. The authors called for urgent action to reverse the effects of [[climate change]] and {{w|pollution}} to reduce their impact in the future, and for improvements to risk assessment and management of associated health and wellbeing issues. {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source |url = https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/30/heat-related-deaths-and-diseases-rising-due-to-climate-change-experts-warn?traffic_source=rss |title = Heat-related deaths and diseases rising due to climate change, experts warn |author = |pub = Aljazeera |date = October 30, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url =https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)01822-1/abstract |title =The 2024 report of the Lancet Countdown on health and climate change: facing record-breaking threats from delayed action |author = |pub =Lancet |date =October 29, 2024 |archiveurl = }} [[Category:Environment]] [[Category:World Health Organization]] [[Category:Climate change]] {{Publish}} l7eqlue5dbws3vbp3mpt8zls83skfys 4804288 4804287 2024-11-09T02:54:31Z JohnSon12a 2869670 /* Sources */ disambiguated link 4804288 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Environment}} {{date|November 4, 2024}} <!--leave this as it is--> Tuesday, {{w|The Lancent}} released the 2024 Lancet Countdown report updating on environmental issues noting an average person was exposed to 50 more days of dangerous temperatures this year compared with 2023. Other factors affecting health included extreme weather events, such as heat waves and floods, dust storms. 122 people including advisors from {{w|World Health Organization}}, agencies of [[United Nations]], and academic institutions contributed to the report. The report was on a global scale rather than a specific region such as Europe. The report included notes that less than 35% of countries were capable of assessing early symptoms of heat caused health issues, and less than 10% for mental issues pertaining to increased temperatures. The authors wrote this limited the resources available for prevention and for planning emergency response if needed. Additionally, in the report, the authors noted the fossil fuel industry was continuing to set up new mining sites, a concerning trend in light of ready availability and necessity to adopt renewable energy sources. The report included a summary of 15 parameters. The analysts wrote that in 2023, the planet was already 1.45 °C warmer than pre-industrial levels, and was on track to reach 2.7 °C heating by 2100. The authors called for urgent action to reverse the effects of [[climate change]] and {{w|pollution}} to reduce their impact in the future, and for improvements to risk assessment and management of associated health and wellbeing issues. {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source |url = https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/30/heat-related-deaths-and-diseases-rising-due-to-climate-change-experts-warn?traffic_source=rss |title = Heat-related deaths and diseases rising due to climate change, experts warn |author = |pub = Aljazeera |date = October 30, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url =https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)01822-1/abstract |title =The 2024 report of the Lancet Countdown on health and climate change: facing record-breaking threats from delayed action |author = |pub =The Lancet |date =October 29, 2024 |archiveurl = }} [[Category:Environment]] [[Category:World Health Organization]] [[Category:Climate change]] {{Publish}} qodxct3bw782dq072na2txdnjvl7ds2 Trump declares victory 0 3003422 4804258 4804242 2024-11-08T15:21:16Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Make image description a complete sentence, indicate it is a file photo, add attribution, per [[WN:Style]]. When using the 'thumb' parameter in image, don't define a pixel size as well. 4804258 wikitext text/x-wiki {{review}} {{date|November 6, 2024}} [[File:Donald Trump (53951825672).jpg|thumb|left|File photo of Trump at a rally in August, 2024.{{image|[https://www.flickr.com/people/22007612@N05 Gage Skidmore]}}]] Trump Expected to Return to the White House. He, along with his family and campaign partner Vance, appeared at the West Palm Beach Convention Center in Florida early this morning to deliver a victory speech, receiving an enthusiastic welcome from the crowd present. He mentioned China twice, emphasizing his commitment to building a "strong, secure, and prosperous" America, pledging to "pay off debt and reduce taxes."He stated, "China doesn't have what we have, no one has what we have."{{Verify|https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-claims-victory-in-the-2024-presidential-election-223686213784}} Regarding Musk's alleged campaign support through illegal lottery operations,{{verify}} Trump praised him, saying, "He is a genius, a rising star. We don't have many geniuses, and we must protect our geniuses."{{Verify|https://www.thepaper.cn/newsDetail_forward_29263998}} Discussing the assassination attempt and injury he suffered in Pennsylvania in July, he believed his survival was because "heaven wants him to save the country." He stated, "Many people tell me God spared my life for a reason - to save our country and make America great again. Now we will accomplish this mission together." "It is with great honor that I become your 47th and 45th President," said the 78-year-old in his speech. He described this election result as an "unprecedented political victory," overcoming "obstacles that everyone thought impossible," and promised to serve the nation to the fullest extent. He vowed to repair and unite the country, address border issues, and stop illegal immigration. "We must secure those borders. We must allow them to return legally, but only through legal channels." He stated that America is facing difficulties, and he will help "heal the nation" and lead America "truly into a golden age," adding, "This is a great victory for the American people that will allow us to make America great again." "Winning the popular vote is very good, very good," he said. He noted that America had lost something "special" over the past four years, declaring, "We're going to make it better than ever before." Supporters in the venue chanted "USA," creating an energetic atmosphere. If Congress confirms Trump's win of over 270 electoral votes, he will be sworn in on January 20th next year, becoming the second U.S. president to serve non-consecutive terms. Facing challenging tasks for the next four years, he called for the nation to set aside differences and prioritize national interests. Regarding Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the former presidential candidate and nephew of former President Kennedy who later withdrew to support him, Trump expressed gratitude, believing "he will make America healthy again." {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source |url = https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-addresses-supporters-winning-series-swing-states-rcna178901 |title = Trump addresses supporters after winning a series of swing states |author = Matt Dixon |pub = NBC News |date = November 6 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-claims-victory-in-the-2024-presidential-election-223686213784 |title = Trump claims victory in the 2024 presidential election |author = |pub = NBC News |date = November 6 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source|url=https://news.now.com/home/international/player?newsId=582002|title=特朗普宣布勝選 稱自己遇刺大難不死是上帝要他拯救美國 |author=|pub=Now新聞台|date=November 6 2024|lang=zh}} *{{source|url= https://news.tvb.com/tc/world/672b40439d9c92d00b739678/國際-美國大選傳媒推算共和黨重奪參院控制權-眾院議席暫領先|title= 【美國大選】特朗普宣布當選稱創造歷史 兩度提中國揚言創美國黃金時代|author= 朱少倫|pub= 無綫新聞|date=November 6 2024|lang=zh}} *{{source|url= https://www.i-cable.com/新聞資訊/286371/美國大選-特朗普宣布勝選-實現了最難以置信的|title= 美國大選|特朗普宣布勝選:從未見過的政治勝利 據報或橫掃七大搖擺州|author= 林靜儀|pub= 有線新聞|date=November 6 2024|lang=zh}} *{{source|url= https://www.thepaper.cn/newsDetail_forward_29263998|title= 特朗普胜选演讲狂赞马斯克:我们有了一颗新星,他是超级天才|author= |pub= 澎湃新聞|date=November 6 2024|lang=zh}} *{{source|url= https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/global-trends/greatest-cutter-elon-musk-has-his-role-cut-out-in-trump-admin/articleshow/115021435.cms|title= "Greatest cutter": Elon Musk has his role cut out in Trump admin|author= |pub= The Economic Times|date=November 6 2024}} [[fr:Donald Trump élu 47e président des États-Unis]] syox7re8vcc2fmh058r3ua6l2ox0yqd 4804259 4804258 2024-11-08T15:23:24Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* Sources */ Correct date of pub for ET online article, add commas to other dates per [[WN:Style]] 4804259 wikitext text/x-wiki {{review}} {{date|November 6, 2024}} [[File:Donald Trump (53951825672).jpg|thumb|left|File photo of Trump at a rally in August, 2024.{{image|[https://www.flickr.com/people/22007612@N05 Gage Skidmore]}}]] Trump Expected to Return to the White House. He, along with his family and campaign partner Vance, appeared at the West Palm Beach Convention Center in Florida early this morning to deliver a victory speech, receiving an enthusiastic welcome from the crowd present. He mentioned China twice, emphasizing his commitment to building a "strong, secure, and prosperous" America, pledging to "pay off debt and reduce taxes."He stated, "China doesn't have what we have, no one has what we have."{{Verify|https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-claims-victory-in-the-2024-presidential-election-223686213784}} Regarding Musk's alleged campaign support through illegal lottery operations,{{verify}} Trump praised him, saying, "He is a genius, a rising star. We don't have many geniuses, and we must protect our geniuses."{{Verify|https://www.thepaper.cn/newsDetail_forward_29263998}} Discussing the assassination attempt and injury he suffered in Pennsylvania in July, he believed his survival was because "heaven wants him to save the country." He stated, "Many people tell me God spared my life for a reason - to save our country and make America great again. Now we will accomplish this mission together." "It is with great honor that I become your 47th and 45th President," said the 78-year-old in his speech. He described this election result as an "unprecedented political victory," overcoming "obstacles that everyone thought impossible," and promised to serve the nation to the fullest extent. He vowed to repair and unite the country, address border issues, and stop illegal immigration. "We must secure those borders. We must allow them to return legally, but only through legal channels." He stated that America is facing difficulties, and he will help "heal the nation" and lead America "truly into a golden age," adding, "This is a great victory for the American people that will allow us to make America great again." "Winning the popular vote is very good, very good," he said. He noted that America had lost something "special" over the past four years, declaring, "We're going to make it better than ever before." Supporters in the venue chanted "USA," creating an energetic atmosphere. If Congress confirms Trump's win of over 270 electoral votes, he will be sworn in on January 20th next year, becoming the second U.S. president to serve non-consecutive terms. Facing challenging tasks for the next four years, he called for the nation to set aside differences and prioritize national interests. Regarding Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the former presidential candidate and nephew of former President Kennedy who later withdrew to support him, Trump expressed gratitude, believing "he will make America healthy again." {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source |url = https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-addresses-supporters-winning-series-swing-states-rcna178901 |title = Trump addresses supporters after winning a series of swing states |author = Matt Dixon |pub = NBC News |date = November 6 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-claims-victory-in-the-2024-presidential-election-223686213784 |title = Trump claims victory in the 2024 presidential election |author = |pub = NBC News |date = November 6, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source|url=https://news.now.com/home/international/player?newsId=582002|title=特朗普宣布勝選 稱自己遇刺大難不死是上帝要他拯救美國 |author=|pub=Now新聞台|date=November 6, 2024|lang=zh}} *{{source|url= https://news.tvb.com/tc/world/672b40439d9c92d00b739678/國際-美國大選傳媒推算共和黨重奪參院控制權-眾院議席暫領先|title= 【美國大選】特朗普宣布當選稱創造歷史 兩度提中國揚言創美國黃金時代|author= 朱少倫|pub= 無綫新聞|date=November 6, 2024|lang=zh}} *{{source|url= https://www.i-cable.com/新聞資訊/286371/美國大選-特朗普宣布勝選-實現了最難以置信的|title= 美國大選|特朗普宣布勝選:從未見過的政治勝利 據報或橫掃七大搖擺州|author= 林靜儀|pub= 有線新聞|date=November 6, 2024|lang=zh}} *{{source|url= https://www.thepaper.cn/newsDetail_forward_29263998|title= 特朗普胜选演讲狂赞马斯克:我们有了一颗新星,他是超级天才|author= |pub= 澎湃新聞|date=November 6, 2024|lang=zh}} *{{source|url= https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/global-trends/greatest-cutter-elon-musk-has-his-role-cut-out-in-trump-admin/articleshow/115021435.cms|title= "Greatest cutter": Elon Musk has his role cut out in Trump admin|author= |pub= The Economic Times|date=November 5, 2024}} [[fr:Donald Trump élu 47e président des États-Unis]] 7n51a4kbrz7po1pk4pz32q1q5r6h7jk 4804260 4804259 2024-11-08T15:25:49Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 +[[Category:2024 United States presidential election]]; +[[Category:Donald Trump]]; +[[Category:United States]] using [[Help:Gadget-HotCat|HotCat]] 4804260 wikitext text/x-wiki {{review}} {{date|November 6, 2024}} [[File:Donald Trump (53951825672).jpg|thumb|left|File photo of Trump at a rally in August, 2024.{{image|[https://www.flickr.com/people/22007612@N05 Gage Skidmore]}}]] Trump Expected to Return to the White House. He, along with his family and campaign partner Vance, appeared at the West Palm Beach Convention Center in Florida early this morning to deliver a victory speech, receiving an enthusiastic welcome from the crowd present. He mentioned China twice, emphasizing his commitment to building a "strong, secure, and prosperous" America, pledging to "pay off debt and reduce taxes."He stated, "China doesn't have what we have, no one has what we have."{{Verify|https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-claims-victory-in-the-2024-presidential-election-223686213784}} Regarding Musk's alleged campaign support through illegal lottery operations,{{verify}} Trump praised him, saying, "He is a genius, a rising star. We don't have many geniuses, and we must protect our geniuses."{{Verify|https://www.thepaper.cn/newsDetail_forward_29263998}} Discussing the assassination attempt and injury he suffered in Pennsylvania in July, he believed his survival was because "heaven wants him to save the country." He stated, "Many people tell me God spared my life for a reason - to save our country and make America great again. Now we will accomplish this mission together." "It is with great honor that I become your 47th and 45th President," said the 78-year-old in his speech. He described this election result as an "unprecedented political victory," overcoming "obstacles that everyone thought impossible," and promised to serve the nation to the fullest extent. He vowed to repair and unite the country, address border issues, and stop illegal immigration. "We must secure those borders. We must allow them to return legally, but only through legal channels." He stated that America is facing difficulties, and he will help "heal the nation" and lead America "truly into a golden age," adding, "This is a great victory for the American people that will allow us to make America great again." "Winning the popular vote is very good, very good," he said. He noted that America had lost something "special" over the past four years, declaring, "We're going to make it better than ever before." Supporters in the venue chanted "USA," creating an energetic atmosphere. If Congress confirms Trump's win of over 270 electoral votes, he will be sworn in on January 20th next year, becoming the second U.S. president to serve non-consecutive terms. Facing challenging tasks for the next four years, he called for the nation to set aside differences and prioritize national interests. Regarding Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the former presidential candidate and nephew of former President Kennedy who later withdrew to support him, Trump expressed gratitude, believing "he will make America healthy again." {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source |url = https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-addresses-supporters-winning-series-swing-states-rcna178901 |title = Trump addresses supporters after winning a series of swing states |author = Matt Dixon |pub = NBC News |date = November 6 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-claims-victory-in-the-2024-presidential-election-223686213784 |title = Trump claims victory in the 2024 presidential election |author = |pub = NBC News |date = November 6, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source|url=https://news.now.com/home/international/player?newsId=582002|title=特朗普宣布勝選 稱自己遇刺大難不死是上帝要他拯救美國 |author=|pub=Now新聞台|date=November 6, 2024|lang=zh}} *{{source|url= https://news.tvb.com/tc/world/672b40439d9c92d00b739678/國際-美國大選傳媒推算共和黨重奪參院控制權-眾院議席暫領先|title= 【美國大選】特朗普宣布當選稱創造歷史 兩度提中國揚言創美國黃金時代|author= 朱少倫|pub= 無綫新聞|date=November 6, 2024|lang=zh}} *{{source|url= https://www.i-cable.com/新聞資訊/286371/美國大選-特朗普宣布勝選-實現了最難以置信的|title= 美國大選|特朗普宣布勝選:從未見過的政治勝利 據報或橫掃七大搖擺州|author= 林靜儀|pub= 有線新聞|date=November 6, 2024|lang=zh}} *{{source|url= https://www.thepaper.cn/newsDetail_forward_29263998|title= 特朗普胜选演讲狂赞马斯克:我们有了一颗新星,他是超级天才|author= |pub= 澎湃新聞|date=November 6, 2024|lang=zh}} *{{source|url= https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/global-trends/greatest-cutter-elon-musk-has-his-role-cut-out-in-trump-admin/articleshow/115021435.cms|title= "Greatest cutter": Elon Musk has his role cut out in Trump admin|author= |pub= The Economic Times|date=November 5, 2024}} [[Category:2024 United States presidential election]] [[Category:Donald Trump]] [[Category:United States]] [[fr:Donald Trump élu 47e président des États-Unis]] opvmbm3fuawsqh6oiajr01p0nwdlf1p 4804261 4804260 2024-11-08T15:31:37Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Add infobox 4804261 wikitext text/x-wiki {{review}} {{date|November 6, 2024}} {{2024 United States presidential election}} [[File:Donald Trump (53951825672).jpg|thumb|left|File photo of Trump at a rally in August, 2024.{{image|[https://www.flickr.com/people/22007612@N05 Gage Skidmore]}}]] Trump Expected to Return to the White House. He, along with his family and campaign partner Vance, appeared at the West Palm Beach Convention Center in Florida early this morning to deliver a victory speech, receiving an enthusiastic welcome from the crowd present. He mentioned China twice, emphasizing his commitment to building a "strong, secure, and prosperous" America, pledging to "pay off debt and reduce taxes."He stated, "China doesn't have what we have, no one has what we have."{{Verify|https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-claims-victory-in-the-2024-presidential-election-223686213784}} Regarding Musk's alleged campaign support through illegal lottery operations,{{verify}} Trump praised him, saying, "He is a genius, a rising star. We don't have many geniuses, and we must protect our geniuses."{{Verify|https://www.thepaper.cn/newsDetail_forward_29263998}} Discussing the assassination attempt and injury he suffered in Pennsylvania in July, he believed his survival was because "heaven wants him to save the country." He stated, "Many people tell me God spared my life for a reason - to save our country and make America great again. Now we will accomplish this mission together." "It is with great honor that I become your 47th and 45th President," said the 78-year-old in his speech. He described this election result as an "unprecedented political victory," overcoming "obstacles that everyone thought impossible," and promised to serve the nation to the fullest extent. He vowed to repair and unite the country, address border issues, and stop illegal immigration. "We must secure those borders. We must allow them to return legally, but only through legal channels." He stated that America is facing difficulties, and he will help "heal the nation" and lead America "truly into a golden age," adding, "This is a great victory for the American people that will allow us to make America great again." "Winning the popular vote is very good, very good," he said. He noted that America had lost something "special" over the past four years, declaring, "We're going to make it better than ever before." Supporters in the venue chanted "USA," creating an energetic atmosphere. If Congress confirms Trump's win of over 270 electoral votes, he will be sworn in on January 20th next year, becoming the second U.S. president to serve non-consecutive terms. Facing challenging tasks for the next four years, he called for the nation to set aside differences and prioritize national interests. Regarding Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the former presidential candidate and nephew of former President Kennedy who later withdrew to support him, Trump expressed gratitude, believing "he will make America healthy again." {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source |url = https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-addresses-supporters-winning-series-swing-states-rcna178901 |title = Trump addresses supporters after winning a series of swing states |author = Matt Dixon |pub = NBC News |date = November 6 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-claims-victory-in-the-2024-presidential-election-223686213784 |title = Trump claims victory in the 2024 presidential election |author = |pub = NBC News |date = November 6, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source|url=https://news.now.com/home/international/player?newsId=582002|title=特朗普宣布勝選 稱自己遇刺大難不死是上帝要他拯救美國 |author=|pub=Now新聞台|date=November 6, 2024|lang=zh}} *{{source|url= https://news.tvb.com/tc/world/672b40439d9c92d00b739678/國際-美國大選傳媒推算共和黨重奪參院控制權-眾院議席暫領先|title= 【美國大選】特朗普宣布當選稱創造歷史 兩度提中國揚言創美國黃金時代|author= 朱少倫|pub= 無綫新聞|date=November 6, 2024|lang=zh}} *{{source|url= https://www.i-cable.com/新聞資訊/286371/美國大選-特朗普宣布勝選-實現了最難以置信的|title= 美國大選|特朗普宣布勝選:從未見過的政治勝利 據報或橫掃七大搖擺州|author= 林靜儀|pub= 有線新聞|date=November 6, 2024|lang=zh}} *{{source|url= https://www.thepaper.cn/newsDetail_forward_29263998|title= 特朗普胜选演讲狂赞马斯克:我们有了一颗新星,他是超级天才|author= |pub= 澎湃新聞|date=November 6, 2024|lang=zh}} *{{source|url= https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/global-trends/greatest-cutter-elon-musk-has-his-role-cut-out-in-trump-admin/articleshow/115021435.cms|title= "Greatest cutter": Elon Musk has his role cut out in Trump admin|author= |pub= The Economic Times|date=November 5, 2024}} [[Category:2024 United States presidential election]] [[Category:Donald Trump]] [[Category:United States]] [[fr:Donald Trump élu 47e président des États-Unis]] 8bo9z6kuxdcytwjg5hiua883q5eh34o 4804265 4804261 2024-11-08T17:35:20Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 Move back to review. See talk page for more: [[Talk:Trump_declares_victory#Using_the_5Ws_as_a_guideline]] 4804265 wikitext text/x-wiki {{develop}} {{date|November 6, 2024}} {{2024 United States presidential election}} [[File:Donald Trump (53951825672).jpg|thumb|left|File photo of Trump at a rally in August, 2024.{{image|[https://www.flickr.com/people/22007612@N05 Gage Skidmore]}}]] Trump Expected to Return to the White House. He, along with his family and campaign partner Vance, appeared at the West Palm Beach Convention Center in Florida early this morning to deliver a victory speech, receiving an enthusiastic welcome from the crowd present. He mentioned China twice, emphasizing his commitment to building a "strong, secure, and prosperous" America, pledging to "pay off debt and reduce taxes."He stated, "China doesn't have what we have, no one has what we have."{{Verify|https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-claims-victory-in-the-2024-presidential-election-223686213784}} Regarding Musk's alleged campaign support through illegal lottery operations,{{verify}} Trump praised him, saying, "He is a genius, a rising star. We don't have many geniuses, and we must protect our geniuses."{{Verify|https://www.thepaper.cn/newsDetail_forward_29263998}} Discussing the assassination attempt and injury he suffered in Pennsylvania in July, he believed his survival was because "heaven wants him to save the country." He stated, "Many people tell me God spared my life for a reason - to save our country and make America great again. Now we will accomplish this mission together." "It is with great honor that I become your 47th and 45th President," said the 78-year-old in his speech. He described this election result as an "unprecedented political victory," overcoming "obstacles that everyone thought impossible," and promised to serve the nation to the fullest extent. He vowed to repair and unite the country, address border issues, and stop illegal immigration. "We must secure those borders. We must allow them to return legally, but only through legal channels." He stated that America is facing difficulties, and he will help "heal the nation" and lead America "truly into a golden age," adding, "This is a great victory for the American people that will allow us to make America great again." "Winning the popular vote is very good, very good," he said. He noted that America had lost something "special" over the past four years, declaring, "We're going to make it better than ever before." Supporters in the venue chanted "USA," creating an energetic atmosphere. If Congress confirms Trump's win of over 270 electoral votes, he will be sworn in on January 20th next year, becoming the second U.S. president to serve non-consecutive terms. Facing challenging tasks for the next four years, he called for the nation to set aside differences and prioritize national interests. Regarding Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the former presidential candidate and nephew of former President Kennedy who later withdrew to support him, Trump expressed gratitude, believing "he will make America healthy again." {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source |url = https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-addresses-supporters-winning-series-swing-states-rcna178901 |title = Trump addresses supporters after winning a series of swing states |author = Matt Dixon |pub = NBC News |date = November 6 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-claims-victory-in-the-2024-presidential-election-223686213784 |title = Trump claims victory in the 2024 presidential election |author = |pub = NBC News |date = November 6, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source|url=https://news.now.com/home/international/player?newsId=582002|title=特朗普宣布勝選 稱自己遇刺大難不死是上帝要他拯救美國 |author=|pub=Now新聞台|date=November 6, 2024|lang=zh}} *{{source|url= https://news.tvb.com/tc/world/672b40439d9c92d00b739678/國際-美國大選傳媒推算共和黨重奪參院控制權-眾院議席暫領先|title= 【美國大選】特朗普宣布當選稱創造歷史 兩度提中國揚言創美國黃金時代|author= 朱少倫|pub= 無綫新聞|date=November 6, 2024|lang=zh}} *{{source|url= https://www.i-cable.com/新聞資訊/286371/美國大選-特朗普宣布勝選-實現了最難以置信的|title= 美國大選|特朗普宣布勝選:從未見過的政治勝利 據報或橫掃七大搖擺州|author= 林靜儀|pub= 有線新聞|date=November 6, 2024|lang=zh}} *{{source|url= https://www.thepaper.cn/newsDetail_forward_29263998|title= 特朗普胜选演讲狂赞马斯克:我们有了一颗新星,他是超级天才|author= |pub= 澎湃新聞|date=November 6, 2024|lang=zh}} *{{source|url= https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/global-trends/greatest-cutter-elon-musk-has-his-role-cut-out-in-trump-admin/articleshow/115021435.cms|title= "Greatest cutter": Elon Musk has his role cut out in Trump admin|author= |pub= The Economic Times|date=November 5, 2024}} [[Category:2024 United States presidential election]] [[Category:Donald Trump]] [[Category:United States]] [[fr:Donald Trump élu 47e président des États-Unis]] pmydi3czrhcrlnv5by3xrc2x32yjfec 4804267 4804265 2024-11-08T19:28:08Z BigKrow 2871522 4804267 wikitext text/x-wiki {{develop}} {{date|November 6, 2024}} {{2024 United States presidential election}} [[File:Donald Trump (53951825672).jpg|thumb|left|File photo of Trump at a rally in August, 2024.{{image|[https://www.flickr.com/people/22007612@N05 Gage Skidmore]}}]] Donald Trump is Expected to Return to the White House. He, along with his family and campaign partner Vance, appeared at the West Palm Beach Convention Center in Florida early this morning to deliver a victory speech, receiving an enthusiastic welcome from the crowd present. He mentioned China twice, emphasizing his commitment to building a "strong, secure, and prosperous" America, pledging to "pay off debt and reduce taxes."He stated, "China doesn't have what we have, no one has what we have."{{Verify|https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-claims-victory-in-the-2024-presidential-election-223686213784}} Regarding Musk's alleged campaign support through illegal lottery operations,{{verify}} Trump praised him, saying, "He is a genius, a rising star. We don't have many geniuses, and we must protect our geniuses."{{Verify|https://www.thepaper.cn/newsDetail_forward_29263998}} Discussing the assassination attempt and injury he suffered in Pennsylvania in July, he believed his survival was because "heaven wants him to save the country." He stated, "Many people tell me God spared my life for a reason - to save our country and make America great again. Now we will accomplish this mission together." "It is with great honor that I become your 47th and 45th President," said the 78-year-old in his speech. He described this election result as an "unprecedented political victory," overcoming "obstacles that everyone thought impossible," and promised to serve the nation to the fullest extent. He vowed to repair and unite the country, address border issues, and stop illegal immigration. "We must secure those borders. We must allow them to return legally, but only through legal channels." He stated that America is facing difficulties, and he will help "heal the nation" and lead America "truly into a golden age," adding, "This is a great victory for the American people that will allow us to make America great again." "Winning the popular vote is very good, very good," he said. He noted that America had lost something "special" over the past four years, declaring, "We're going to make it better than ever before." Supporters in the venue chanted "USA," creating an energetic atmosphere. If Congress confirms Trump's win of over 270 electoral votes, he will be sworn in on January 20th next year, becoming the second U.S. president to serve non-consecutive terms. Facing challenging tasks for the next four years, he called for the nation to set aside differences and prioritize national interests. Regarding Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the former presidential candidate and nephew of former President Kennedy who later withdrew to support him, Trump expressed gratitude, believing "he will make America healthy again." {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source |url = https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-addresses-supporters-winning-series-swing-states-rcna178901 |title = Trump addresses supporters after winning a series of swing states |author = Matt Dixon |pub = NBC News |date = November 6 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-claims-victory-in-the-2024-presidential-election-223686213784 |title = Trump claims victory in the 2024 presidential election |author = |pub = NBC News |date = November 6, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source|url=https://news.now.com/home/international/player?newsId=582002|title=特朗普宣布勝選 稱自己遇刺大難不死是上帝要他拯救美國 |author=|pub=Now新聞台|date=November 6, 2024|lang=zh}} *{{source|url= https://news.tvb.com/tc/world/672b40439d9c92d00b739678/國際-美國大選傳媒推算共和黨重奪參院控制權-眾院議席暫領先|title= 【美國大選】特朗普宣布當選稱創造歷史 兩度提中國揚言創美國黃金時代|author= 朱少倫|pub= 無綫新聞|date=November 6, 2024|lang=zh}} *{{source|url= https://www.i-cable.com/新聞資訊/286371/美國大選-特朗普宣布勝選-實現了最難以置信的|title= 美國大選|特朗普宣布勝選:從未見過的政治勝利 據報或橫掃七大搖擺州|author= 林靜儀|pub= 有線新聞|date=November 6, 2024|lang=zh}} *{{source|url= https://www.thepaper.cn/newsDetail_forward_29263998|title= 特朗普胜选演讲狂赞马斯克:我们有了一颗新星,他是超级天才|author= |pub= 澎湃新聞|date=November 6, 2024|lang=zh}} *{{source|url= https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/global-trends/greatest-cutter-elon-musk-has-his-role-cut-out-in-trump-admin/articleshow/115021435.cms|title= "Greatest cutter": Elon Musk has his role cut out in Trump admin|author= |pub= The Economic Times|date=November 5, 2024}} [[Category:2024 United States presidential election]] [[Category:Donald Trump]] [[Category:United States]] [[fr:Donald Trump élu 47e président des États-Unis]] o0olhcc5ereofecgj0qqcpwrkel6fbo 4804268 4804267 2024-11-08T19:28:41Z BigKrow 2871522 4804268 wikitext text/x-wiki {{develop}} {{date|November 6, 2024}} {{2024 United States presidential election}} [[File:Donald Trump (53951825672).jpg|thumb|left|File photo of Trump at a rally in August, 2024.{{image|[https://www.flickr.com/people/22007612@N05 Gage Skidmore]}}]] Donald Trump is Expected to Return to the White House. He, along with his family and campaign partner J.D. Vance, appeared at the West Palm Beach Convention Center in Florida early this morning to deliver a victory speech, receiving an enthusiastic welcome from the crowd present. He mentioned China twice, emphasizing his commitment to building a "strong, secure, and prosperous" America, pledging to "pay off debt and reduce taxes."He stated, "China doesn't have what we have, no one has what we have."{{Verify|https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-claims-victory-in-the-2024-presidential-election-223686213784}} Regarding Musk's alleged campaign support through illegal lottery operations,{{verify}} Trump praised him, saying, "He is a genius, a rising star. We don't have many geniuses, and we must protect our geniuses."{{Verify|https://www.thepaper.cn/newsDetail_forward_29263998}} Discussing the assassination attempt and injury he suffered in Pennsylvania in July, he believed his survival was because "heaven wants him to save the country." He stated, "Many people tell me God spared my life for a reason - to save our country and make America great again. Now we will accomplish this mission together." "It is with great honor that I become your 47th and 45th President," said the 78-year-old in his speech. He described this election result as an "unprecedented political victory," overcoming "obstacles that everyone thought impossible," and promised to serve the nation to the fullest extent. He vowed to repair and unite the country, address border issues, and stop illegal immigration. "We must secure those borders. We must allow them to return legally, but only through legal channels." He stated that America is facing difficulties, and he will help "heal the nation" and lead America "truly into a golden age," adding, "This is a great victory for the American people that will allow us to make America great again." "Winning the popular vote is very good, very good," he said. He noted that America had lost something "special" over the past four years, declaring, "We're going to make it better than ever before." Supporters in the venue chanted "USA," creating an energetic atmosphere. If Congress confirms Trump's win of over 270 electoral votes, he will be sworn in on January 20th next year, becoming the second U.S. president to serve non-consecutive terms. Facing challenging tasks for the next four years, he called for the nation to set aside differences and prioritize national interests. Regarding Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the former presidential candidate and nephew of former President Kennedy who later withdrew to support him, Trump expressed gratitude, believing "he will make America healthy again." {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source |url = https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-addresses-supporters-winning-series-swing-states-rcna178901 |title = Trump addresses supporters after winning a series of swing states |author = Matt Dixon |pub = NBC News |date = November 6 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-claims-victory-in-the-2024-presidential-election-223686213784 |title = Trump claims victory in the 2024 presidential election |author = |pub = NBC News |date = November 6, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source|url=https://news.now.com/home/international/player?newsId=582002|title=特朗普宣布勝選 稱自己遇刺大難不死是上帝要他拯救美國 |author=|pub=Now新聞台|date=November 6, 2024|lang=zh}} *{{source|url= https://news.tvb.com/tc/world/672b40439d9c92d00b739678/國際-美國大選傳媒推算共和黨重奪參院控制權-眾院議席暫領先|title= 【美國大選】特朗普宣布當選稱創造歷史 兩度提中國揚言創美國黃金時代|author= 朱少倫|pub= 無綫新聞|date=November 6, 2024|lang=zh}} *{{source|url= https://www.i-cable.com/新聞資訊/286371/美國大選-特朗普宣布勝選-實現了最難以置信的|title= 美國大選|特朗普宣布勝選:從未見過的政治勝利 據報或橫掃七大搖擺州|author= 林靜儀|pub= 有線新聞|date=November 6, 2024|lang=zh}} *{{source|url= https://www.thepaper.cn/newsDetail_forward_29263998|title= 特朗普胜选演讲狂赞马斯克:我们有了一颗新星,他是超级天才|author= |pub= 澎湃新聞|date=November 6, 2024|lang=zh}} *{{source|url= https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/global-trends/greatest-cutter-elon-musk-has-his-role-cut-out-in-trump-admin/articleshow/115021435.cms|title= "Greatest cutter": Elon Musk has his role cut out in Trump admin|author= |pub= The Economic Times|date=November 5, 2024}} [[Category:2024 United States presidential election]] [[Category:Donald Trump]] [[Category:United States]] [[fr:Donald Trump élu 47e président des États-Unis]] 6iqdm6c6thpf9yxt3qyrfmy0oleskel Talk:Trump declares victory 1 3003433 4804264 4804241 2024-11-08T17:34:22Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* Further development needed */ article is still not ready for a full review 4804264 wikitext text/x-wiki == Review of revision 4804035 [Not ready] == <!-- Submitted using easy peer review - MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js --> {{peer_reviewed|revid=4804035|copyright=n/a|newsworthy=n/a|verifiable=|npov=|style=|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright|comments=We need at least two independent sources for synthesis articles such as this. Since both source articles are from NBC News, we only present their point of view and therefore our article is not written in a [[WN:NPOV|neutral point of view]]. Also please go through the article again to make sure it is compliant with our style guide: [[WN:Style]]. For example, we don't use ordinal numbers such as "6th." Images should provide attribution using {{tl|image}}. Categories should also be added. |time=15:13, 6 November 2024 (UTC)}} == Further development needed == I have added {{tl|verify}} to several unsourced statements in the second and third paragraphs. All information must be sourced per [[WN:Source]]. I stopped verifying things after the third paragraph. Also, please provide guidance on the use and translation of the three sources that are in Chinese, which is another requirement of [[WN:Source]]. It would help the review process if you used {{tl|verify}} to indicate the source for every piece of information. If you prefer not to see it in the body of the article, you can use the <code>visibility = hidden</code> switch to make them hidden, in-line citations. See the template documentation for more information: [[Template:Verify/doc]] [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] had indicated they were actively editing the article by using the {{tl|editing}} template. Please work together to make this article publishable. [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]], Heavy Water is a longtime user and reviewer here, whose broad knowledge of our policies and guidelines would be incredibly valuable. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:19, 7 November 2024 (UTC) :Thanks [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 22:04, 7 November 2024 (UTC) :Please feel free to modify it [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 09:25, 8 November 2024 (UTC) === Using the 5Ws as a guideline === The article is still not ready for review primarily due to unsourced statements, including quotes that must be sourced and attributed. To help develop your first article, it would be good to start by answering the [[WN:5Ws]]. Once you have explicitly answered those five questions, you can use your answers to build the lede and headline and from there expand a bit following the [[WN:IP|inverted pyramid]] style of writing, with an overall goal of writing a short article of 3-4 paragraphs using 2-3 sources, preferably all in English (there will be plenty of sources available). Using non-English sources complicates article composition as well as the review process. Based on the current lede, below are my answers to the 5Ws: '''Who''' – Donald Trump '''What''' – I see two: 1. Trump is expected to return to the White House. This partially covers the “what,” but it’s ambiguous—does “return” mean winning an election, visiting, or something else? 2. He delivered a victory speech. 2. '''When''' – When Trump is expected to return to the White House is not answered. When he gave the speech is: November 6. '''Where''' – He gave the speech at West Palm Beach Convention Center. '''Why''' – The “why” is missing from the lede. There’s no explanation for Trump’s anticipated return to the White House or the purpose of the victory speech. Most of the rest of the article seems to expand on the speech so the easiest route may be for the author(s) to tighten up the 5Ws around the speech. The full transcript of Trumps speech is available online. If the article will be about the speech, a full transcript should be used and sourced properly to avoid issues of unsourced and/or inaccurate quotes such as the following: {{quotation|Discussing the assassination attempt and injury he suffered in Pennsylvania in July, he believed his survival was because "heaven wants him to save the country."}} That quote should be attributed in prose to who said it and the source for that quote must be listed in the Sources section. I can not find any listed source that mentions "heaven wants him to save the country." The quote in the same paragraph, attributed to Trump, is also inaccurate according to transcripts I've found online.[https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-victory-speech-full-transcript-1981234] The inaccuracy could be the result of translation from one of the Chinese sources, which reinforces the suggestion that non-English sources should not be used for this story unless they report something credible not reported by English sources. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 17:34, 8 November 2024 (UTC) 4vtnw9agygykud6v7l5z2vjorby7bkx 4804266 4804264 2024-11-08T17:36:57Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* Using the 5Ws as a guideline */ fix typo 4804266 wikitext text/x-wiki == Review of revision 4804035 [Not ready] == <!-- Submitted using easy peer review - MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js --> {{peer_reviewed|revid=4804035|copyright=n/a|newsworthy=n/a|verifiable=|npov=|style=|reviewer=Michael.C.Wright|comments=We need at least two independent sources for synthesis articles such as this. Since both source articles are from NBC News, we only present their point of view and therefore our article is not written in a [[WN:NPOV|neutral point of view]]. Also please go through the article again to make sure it is compliant with our style guide: [[WN:Style]]. For example, we don't use ordinal numbers such as "6th." Images should provide attribution using {{tl|image}}. Categories should also be added. |time=15:13, 6 November 2024 (UTC)}} == Further development needed == I have added {{tl|verify}} to several unsourced statements in the second and third paragraphs. All information must be sourced per [[WN:Source]]. I stopped verifying things after the third paragraph. Also, please provide guidance on the use and translation of the three sources that are in Chinese, which is another requirement of [[WN:Source]]. It would help the review process if you used {{tl|verify}} to indicate the source for every piece of information. If you prefer not to see it in the body of the article, you can use the <code>visibility = hidden</code> switch to make them hidden, in-line citations. See the template documentation for more information: [[Template:Verify/doc]] [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] had indicated they were actively editing the article by using the {{tl|editing}} template. Please work together to make this article publishable. [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]], Heavy Water is a longtime user and reviewer here, whose broad knowledge of our policies and guidelines would be incredibly valuable. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 15:19, 7 November 2024 (UTC) :Thanks [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 22:04, 7 November 2024 (UTC) :Please feel free to modify it [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 09:25, 8 November 2024 (UTC) === Using the 5Ws as a guideline === The article is still not ready for review primarily due to unsourced statements, including quotes that must be sourced and attributed. To help develop your first article, it would be good to start by answering the [[WN:5Ws]]. Once you have explicitly answered those five questions, you can use your answers to build the lede and headline and from there expand a bit following the [[WN:IP|inverted pyramid]] style of writing, with an overall goal of writing a short article of 3-4 paragraphs using 2-3 sources, preferably all in English (there will be plenty of sources available). Using non-English sources complicates article composition as well as the review process. Based on the current lede, below are my answers to the 5Ws: '''Who''' – Donald Trump '''What''' – I see two: 1. Trump is expected to return to the White House. This partially covers the “what,” but it’s ambiguous—does “return” mean winning an election, visiting, or something else? 2. He delivered a victory speech. '''When''' – When Trump is expected to return to the White House is not answered. When he gave the speech is: November 6. '''Where''' – He gave the speech at West Palm Beach Convention Center. '''Why''' – The “why” is missing from the lede. There’s no explanation for Trump’s anticipated return to the White House or the purpose of the victory speech. Most of the rest of the article seems to expand on the speech so the easiest route may be for the author(s) to tighten up the 5Ws around the speech. The full transcript of Trumps speech is available online. If the article will be about the speech, a full transcript should be used and sourced properly to avoid issues of unsourced and/or inaccurate quotes such as the following: {{quotation|Discussing the assassination attempt and injury he suffered in Pennsylvania in July, he believed his survival was because "heaven wants him to save the country."}} That quote should be attributed in prose to who said it and the source for that quote must be listed in the Sources section. I can not find any listed source that mentions "heaven wants him to save the country." The quote in the same paragraph, attributed to Trump, is also inaccurate according to transcripts I've found online.[https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-victory-speech-full-transcript-1981234] The inaccuracy could be the result of translation from one of the Chinese sources, which reinforces the suggestion that non-English sources should not be used for this story unless they report something credible not reported by English sources. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]</sub>) 17:34, 8 November 2024 (UTC) cw8xvewenhunvlbibpg3k88uqhjhwkp User talk:CardamoneAl 3 3003548 4804246 2024-11-08T12:17:17Z Wikinews Welcome 183942 Welcoming the newest member of the Wikinews community. 4804246 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=CardamoneAl}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 12:17, 8 November 2024 (UTC) a1zywgsb9qzuu493364f069ti4oa38k User talk:Kongmobs 3 3003549 4804247 2024-11-08T12:18:37Z Wikinews Welcome 183942 Welcoming the newest member of the Wikinews community. 4804247 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Kongmobs}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 12:18, 8 November 2024 (UTC) k2dcafvp4sp9ceubpcxwr5qghzx6eby User talk:Sashi Suseshi 3 3003550 4804248 2024-11-08T12:44:52Z Wikinews Welcome 183942 Welcoming the newest member of the Wikinews community. 4804248 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Sashi Suseshi}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 12:44, 8 November 2024 (UTC) nzrd90w2hsadeimi7io4qdcd3twwnnt User talk:Hithm77758hithm 3 3003551 4804249 2024-11-08T13:34:48Z Wikinews Welcome 183942 Welcoming the newest member of the Wikinews community. 4804249 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Hithm77758hithm}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 13:34, 8 November 2024 (UTC) 9kvxala1ki7nc1u2r7l98dl8nmzzuc7 User talk:Shibin rani 3 3003552 4804250 2024-11-08T14:22:16Z Wikinews Welcome 183942 Welcoming the newest member of the Wikinews community. 4804250 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Shibin rani}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 14:22, 8 November 2024 (UTC) 3zqd0r67zo3jhpi5wvnyon1xe7ayd46 User talk:Rui P. 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But in that time the true geniuses were silent, one of them is a former student of Chibi high School who secured a straight 35 points at A level, meaning to say he sat for seven subjects and obtained 7 As. The subjects are, 1. Accounting 2. Physics 3. Chemistry 4. Pure Mathematics 5. Mechanical Mathematics 6..." 4804295 wikitext text/x-wiki {{develop}}{{date|November 9, 2024}} When A level results were released by Zimsec in January 2024, the internet and newspapers were full of top performers. But in that time the true geniuses were silent, one of them is a former student of Chibi high School who secured a straight 35 points at A level, meaning to say he sat for seven subjects and obtained 7 As. The subjects are, 1. Accounting 2. Physics 3. Chemistry 4. Pure Mathematics 5. Mechanical Mathematics 6. Crop Science 7. Statistics Besides those, he is also a programmer(Good at C, javascript, HTML,css, Arduino,R, java, Go and many other). No one published his achievement except this one. He is currently under presidential scholarship outside Zimbabwe but I won't mention the place. There are also many geniuses from the same school who never had the chance to shine even after their hardwork. We will get their permission first before saying out their names. The second highest at the same school obtained straight 30 points(6 As), the third obtained 25 points (5 As). If you have an untold story, contact the author. {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source|url= |title= |author= |pub= |date= }} *{{source|url= |title= |author= |pub= |date= }} fu32shcv0o2427n2srcygb645gawjzp 4804296 4804295 2024-11-09T04:51:06Z Uniques CEO 2885092 /* Sources */Added link 4804296 wikitext text/x-wiki {{develop}}{{date|November 9, 2024}} When A level results were released by Zimsec in January 2024, the internet and newspapers were full of top performers. But in that time the true geniuses were silent, one of them is a former student of Chibi high School who secured a straight 35 points at A level, meaning to say he sat for seven subjects and obtained 7 As. The subjects are, 1. Accounting 2. Physics 3. Chemistry 4. Pure Mathematics 5. Mechanical Mathematics 6. Crop Science 7. Statistics Besides those, he is also a programmer(Good at C, javascript, HTML,css, Arduino,R, java, Go and many other). No one published his achievement except this one. He is currently under presidential scholarship outside Zimbabwe but I won't mention the place. There are also many geniuses from the same school who never had the chance to shine even after their hardwork. We will get their permission first before saying out their names. The second highest at the same school obtained straight 30 points(6 As), the third obtained 25 points (5 As). If you have an untold story, contact the author. {{haveyoursay}} == Sources == *{{source| Original, written by one of the students at the same school Contact author at +263716600397 }} *{{source|url= |title= |author= |pub= |date= }} dphj4ed591p2vbrbs0kuup8l7zwh8u6 4804297 4804296 2024-11-09T04:51:49Z Uniques CEO 2885092 Please review this article. (via [[Template:Assistant:Submit/form|form]]) 4804297 wikitext text/x-wiki {{review}}{{date|November 9, 2024}} When A level results were released by Zimsec in January 2024, the internet and newspapers were full of top performers. But in that time the true geniuses were silent, one of them is a former student of Chibi high School who secured a straight 35 points at A level, meaning to say he sat for seven subjects and obtained 7 As. The subjects are, 1. Accounting 2. Physics 3. Chemistry 4. Pure Mathematics 5. Mechanical Mathematics 6. Crop Science 7. Statistics Besides those, he is also a programmer(Good at C, javascript, HTML,css, Arduino,R, java, Go and many other). No one published his achievement except this one. He is currently under presidential scholarship outside Zimbabwe but I won't mention the place. There are also many geniuses from the same school who never had the chance to shine even after their hardwork. We will get their permission first before saying out their names. The second highest at the same school obtained straight 30 points(6 As), the third obtained 25 points (5 As). 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