User talk:Võrok

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Hi Vorok, Please remember that you can translate the user interface at Special:Allmessages. --Node ue 06:32, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)


Hi, Actually I have already translated Võro language file LanguageVr.php. How to use it now? --Võrok 09:28, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

We should submit a request to http://bugzilla.wikipedia.org/ probably. I'd like to test the language file once more though. I wonder how should the file be called... LanguageFiuVro.php perhaps? --Ker 10:47, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Please do it! I think it should be called LanguageFiu-Vro.php (if "-" is allowed in filename). Tervüisi! --Võrok 10:59, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Võtsin uuesti tööplaani, eelmine katse suvel takerdus. --Ker 14:19, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
Uus versioon asub nüüd siin: LanguageFiu vro.php. Vaatad üle või panen kohe teele? Keegi on praeguse seisuga süsteemi teated ingliskeelseteks lülitanud... --Ker 21:29, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Minu poolt ka mõned kommentaarid keelefaili kohta. Esiteks, LanguageVr.php ja LanguageFiu vro.php peaksid asuma Wikipedia: nimeruumis (tegelikult võiks selle nimi olla Vikipeediä:). Mõned artiklid on veel, mis peaksid seal nimeruumis olema - näiteks esilehelt Vikipeediä_tutvustus, Sagõhõmbaq küsümüseq ja Lühkü pruuk'misoppus. Need saad Wikipedia: nimeruumi panna lihtsalt nii, et liigutad nad ümber ja paned nime ette "Wikipedia:". Aga need on tehnilised asjad, mis pole nii väga vajalikud.
Tähtsam asi, mida ma tahtsin küsida, on see, et kas eesti Vikipeediast võib ära kustutada artikli et:LanguageVR.php?
Jõudu võrukeelse Vikipeedia kirjutamisel! et:Peep 19:12, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
Tänud nõuannete eest ja jõud kulub ka marjaks ära! Kuna need failid on nüüd võru vikis olemas juba edasiarendatud kujul, siis võid nad eestikeelsest tõesti ära kustutada. -- Võrok 13:50, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Tere, keelefailiga on lugu nõnda -- avasin bugzillas uue ülesande: http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3775

Vastatakse aga, et tõlkimata sõnumeid on liialt palju, mistõttu pole lootust kiirele reageerimisele. Mina ei oska enam midagi ette võtta. --Ker 14:02, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

No ega midagi hullu ka ei ole. Kiiret ju pole, põhilised kohad, mis tavakasutajale näha, on mul juba otse "Allmessages"is ära tõlgitud ja töötavad ilusti võru keeles. Eks ma või kunagi ka keelefaili võrukeelsemaks tõlkimise ette võtta ja siis võime minna Bugzillasse uuele katsele :) --Võrok 09:43, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

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[toimõndaq] Country project

Hi Võrok! I have started working on the template box for countries. The template can befound at Template:Country Infobox. It would be good if you could move this to the Võro name equivalent and fix any mistakes that exist there (in terms of Võro words). I'm not sure if Suurusõ perrä (here I meant to say "Area rank") and Rahva hulga perrä (Population rank) are correct. Additionally, is it correct to say things like "Romaania lipp" when referring to the Romanian flag, or does the "Romaania" change its ending (in English it changes to Romanian). Before I start actually implementing this template for all of the countries in Maailma maaq, I would like to ask you a few things.

Firstly, I have translated the following headings in Võro, for each country article. Are they correct:

  • Aologu - History
  • Poliitiga - Politics
  • Luudus - Geography
  • Haldusjaotus - Subdivisions
  • Majandus - Economy
  • Kultuur' - Culture

I would also like to know the Võro words for the following, which I will need for the articles. You can write the Võro equivalent on this page next to each word.

  • Demographics
  • XYZ is a country in Europe|Asia|Africa|North America|South America
  • The names for the months of the year, so I can use it for independence dates (January, February, March, April, May, etc.). I already know that February is radokuu and June is piimäkuu

I'm glad to be helping the Võro Wikipedia! Thanks, Ronline 08:21, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Hi Ronline, you are very welcome to help the Võro Vikipeediä!
Suurusõ perrä "Area rank" and Rahva hulga perrä "Population rank" are correct meanings.
Yes, it IS correct to say things like "Romaania lipp" when referring to the Romanian flag, "Austria lipp" (Austrian flag), "Belgiä lipp" (Belgian flag) etc. Most of country names in Võro do not change their ending. But many names (mostly with a consonant at the end of name) do. For example "Afganistan'" (nominative case) - "Afganistani" (genetive case) > "Afganistani lipp". Here is the list of country names which change their endings:

Afganistan' - Afganistani

Ameeriga Ütisriigiq - Ameeriga Ütisriike (United States) > Ameeriga Ütisriike lipp

Araabia Ütisemiraadiq - Araabia Ütisemiraatõ

Asõrbaidsaan' - Asõrbaidsaani

Bahrein' - Bahreini

Bangladesh - Bangladeshi

Barbados - Barbadosõ

Belize - Belize'i

Benin - Benini

Bhutan - Bhutani

Côte d'Ivoire - Côte d'Ivoire'i

Dominikaani Vabariik' - Dominikaani Vabariigi

Ecuador - Ecuadori

Egüptüs - Egüptüse

El Salvador - El Salvadori

Filipiiniq - Filipiine

Gabon - Gaboni

Hiina Rahvavabariik' (China) - Hiina Rahvavabariigi

Holland' - Hollandi

Honduras - Hondurasõ

Hummogu-Timor -Hummogu-Timori

Iisrael' - Iisraeli

Iraak' - Iraagi

Iraan' - Iraani

Island' - Islandi

Jaapan' - Jaapani

Jeemen' - Jeemeni

Kamõrun' - Kamõruni

Kasastan' - Kasastani

Katar - Katari

Kesk-Afriga Vabariik' (Central Africa) - Kesk-Afriga Vabariigi

Komooriq - Komuurõ

Kongo Vabariik' - Kongo Vabariigi

Kuveit - Kuveidi

Kõrgõstan' - Kõrgõstani

Küprüs - Küprüse

Laos - Laosõ

Liechtenstein - Liechtensteini

Liibanon' - Liibanoni

Luksõmburk' - Luksõmburgi

Lõunõ-Afriga Vabariik' (South Africa) - Lõunõ-Afriga Vabariigi

Madagaskar' - Madagaskari

Maldiiviq - Maldiivõ

Marshalli Saarõq - Marshalli saari

Mauritius - Mauritiusõ

Mosambiik' - Mosambiigi

Myanmar - Myanmari

Nepal - Nepali

Niger - Nigeri

Omaan' - Omaani

Paapua Vahtsõnõ Ginea - Paapua Vahtsõ Ginea

Pakistan' - Pakistani

Portugal' - Portugali

Saalomoni Saarõq - Saalomoni saari

Saint Kitts ja Nevis - Saint Kittsi ja Nevise

Saint Vincent - Saint Vincenti

Seiselliq - Seiselle

Senegal - Senegali

Singapur - Singapuri

Sudaan' - Sudaani

Suriname - Suriname'i

Suur'britannia (Ütiskuningriik') (Great Britain (United Kingdom)) - Suur'britannia (Ütiskuningriigi)

Sveits' - Sveidsi

Tadsikistan' - Tadsikistani

Taiwan - Taiwani

Trinidad ja Tobago - Trinidadi ja Tobago

Tsaad' - Tsaadi

Türkmenistan' - Türkmenistani

Usbekistan' - Usbekistani

Vahtsõnõ Meremaa (New Zealand) - Vahtsõ Meremaa

Vatikan' - Vatikani

Vietnam' - Vietnami

Other translations:

  • "Aologu" 'history' etc are correct, only "luudus" does not mean 'geography'. "Luudus" is 'nature', "maatiidüs" is 'geography'.
  • Subdivisions - valitsõmisjaotus (not "haldusjaotus")
  • Demographics - rahvastik
  • XYZ is a country in Europe|Asia|Africa|North America|South America - XYZ om Õuruupa|Aasia|Afriga|Põh'a-Ameeriga|Lõunõ-Ameeriga riik'
  • The names for the months of the year: January - vahtsõaastakuu, February - radokuu, March - paastukuu, April - mahlakuu, May - lehekuu, June - piimäkuu, July - hainakuu, August - põimukuu, September - süküskuu, October - rehekuu, November - märdikuu, Detsember - joulukuu.
  • External links - välislingiq

Thank you, best regards -Võrok 10:58, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

[toimõndaq] Articles

See Romaania for how the template articles will look! Ronline 11:46, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Just one more thing: how do you say "Countries in Europe"?

It is wonderful!!

I made only one correction: "romaania keelen (in inessive case without ":" !)" - it will be the same in every country: name of the language (genetive) + keelen (inessive) "Countries in Europe" - "Õuruupa riigiq" -Võrok 11:58, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for all the tips, translations and corrections. For me, this is a very good learning experince of Võro. I am also learning many new Estonian words (since I'm using the Estonian-Võro dictionary)! Ronline 12:09, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
There is now Category:Õuruupa riigiq on every European country page, including Eesti. Ronline 12:10, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

[toimõndaq] Estonian anthem

Hi. I have redirected Mu isamaa, mu õnn ja rõõm to Mu esämaa, mu ynn' ja ryym, so that at the page "Mu esämaa, mu ynn' ja ryym" there is now both a Võro and Estonian version. This is because I think it's much easier and structured that way, since this is the Võro Wikipedia and not the Estonian Wikipedia, it would've been confusing to have a page just in Estonian. The standard Wikipedia format for national anthems is to have the national anthem in the native language and then translated in the language of the Wikipedia. I have therefore put Estonian first and then the Võro translation. If you like, you can switch them around, so that the Võro is first (especially since the title is in Võro) and then the Estonian is next. But I just think it's better to have both versions on one page rather than have them on separate pages. Ronline 07:17, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Hi Ronline, you have done very good work on countries' articles and I think your restructuration of the Estonian anthem's article is also good. Mulţumesc! By the way, how did you spend your summer time in Estonia? -Võrok 12:47, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
Hi. My summer in Estonia was great - I stayed in Pärnu mostly, with a short stay in Tallinn. It was my first time in Pärnu and I really enjoyed it! As always, Estonia is a really great place to visit. From my first time in Tallinn a few years ago, I was just captivated and have returned there frequently ever since! Next year, I will try to make a visit to the southern part, including Võromaa. Is the Võro language movement active in Estonia? Personaly, I am really interested in it and was wondering what's happening for the Võro language on the local front. What is the county government's reaction to it? It would be good to advertise the Võro Wikipedia to the Võro community in Estonia. I have made a new template at Template:Commons for linking to articles at Wikimedia Commons. This needs to be translated into Võro (well, just translate the phrase "Wikimedia Commons has more media related to:" and then the article name will appear automatically). The template has been implemented at Iirimaa (see bottom of page). Thanks, Ronline 06:32, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
Yes, Ronline, the Võro movement is quite active in comparision with other Balto-Finnic small languages' movements. But unfortunately it is still too weak to solve the problem of keeping the Võro language alive when language change into Estonian is going on. And Võro (nor entire South Estonian) has still no official recognition as a language. It has some state support as a cultural heritage but there are no serious language policy to save the language. Of course I'll try to find opportunities to advertise Võro Vikipeediä in Võromaa and in whole Estonia. -Võrok 20:06, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

[toimõndaq] Countries

Hi Võrok! The country template should be changed in the following way, by making a page-defined template for the title of President. For that, the architecture needs to be changed slightly, and I need to know what the name is for "Head of state" and "Head of state type" in Võro. As to the system of writing numbers, I have used the 1,5 and 3,2 type for decimals. Are there any places where this has not been used? In Romania, it's also like this. As to the digit groupings, I will change them from dots to spaces (in Romania, the grouping is 1.000.000 instead of 1 000 000. In English, it's 1,000,000, which is why some numbers may still be like this when I copied them from en.wiki). Thanks, Ronline 09:43, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Hi Ronline! "Head of state" in Võro is "Riigipää" and "Head of state type" would be something like "Riigitüübi pää". Yes, decimals 1,5 etc are marked here the same way as in Romania, but in digit grouping spaces are used. Greetings, -Võrok 20:14, 27 August 2005 (UTC)


[toimõndaq] Kuupäevad

Millised võiksid olla võro vikipeedias pruugitavad kuupäevaformaadid? Eesti omas on praegu võimalik valida järgmiste seast:

       'Eelistus puudub',
       '15.01.2001, kell 16.12',
       '15. jaanuar 2001, kell 16.12',
       '15. I 2005, kell 16.12',
       'ISO 8601' => '2001-01-15 16:12:34'

--Ker 15:27, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Võiks ehk olla enam-vähem samad:

       'Olõ-i määrät',
       '15.01.2001, kell 16.12',
       '15. vahtsõaastakuu päiv 2001, kell 16.12',
       '15. I 2005, kell 16.12',
       'ISO 8601' => '2001-01-15 16:12:34'

"..kuu + päiv" asemel võib olla ka lihtsalt "kuu" (15. vahtsõaastakuu 2001)

Sain Bugzillast kirja, et võru keelefail olevat jälle ajast maha jäänud, küllap oled kursis, aga igaks juhuks panen selle lingi siia kah. Olen küll hädäpärasemad asjad juba otse ära tõlkinud, aga oleks kena küll, kui keelefaili ka kunagi käima saaks.

--Võrok 12:27, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Aitäh, link kulub ära, mina seda kirja ei saanud ja ei mäletanudki, et tookord mingi fail sai läkitatud. Proovin värske ja viisaka seekord saata. --Ker 15:50, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

[toimõndaq] Horvaatia ja Bosnia ja Hertsegoviina

Hi Võrok! Could you please check the pages Bosnia ja Hertsegoviina and Horvaatia for any mistakes? Is the genitive form of "Horvaatia", "Horvaadi", like in Estonian? As for Bosnia and Herzegovina, I don't think I got correct the names for the Bosnian language, Croatian language and Serbian language. Thanks, Ronline 08:12, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Thank you, Ronline, for your good work on countries!! And I think your position in ongoing discussion in W-list is absolutely right. "Horvaatia" (country) in genitive is the sama as in nominative - "Horvaatia". But the name of the language is "horvaadi kiil'". Just one problem: in articles of some countries there are missing flag or coat of arms. -- Võrok 11:48, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Yes, I noticed that some of the images are missing, and that's mainly because of poor organisation over at Commons to do with file names. I will try to find the file name on commons so the link is done right, or in some cases I will upload the coat of arms to this Wikipedia. The reason why some coats of arms (vapp') don't come up is because they are licensed under fair-use, which Commons does not permit. Thanks, Ronline 12:20, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

[toimõndaq] Babel templates

Hi Võrok. Would you be nice and create a "võro-speaking" version of the Babel templates, which could be added, for example, in en:Wikipedia:Babel and fr:Wikipédia:Babel. If you would like to do it, you could start with the English text, as in fr:Wikipédia:Babel/en (except for fr:Template:User en-0, which has a "political" background against English). The 5 levels (native, 4, 3, 2 and 1 could be sufficient, imho, and you could only give the text and say where we have to add the category links inside the text). Hégésippe | ±Θ± 03:30, 19 November 2005 (UTC) (French user)

Hi Hégésippe! I created the templates in Võro:
fiu-vro-1 Taa pruukja mõist veidükese võro kiilt.
fiu-vro-2 Taa pruukja mõist võro kiilt küländ häste.
fiu-vro-3 Taa pruukja mõist võro kiilt väega häste.
fiu-vro-4 Taa pruukja mõist võro kiilt nigu imäkiilt.
fiu-vro Taa pruukja imäkiil om võro kiil.

and one more I could not create:

fiu-vro Naaq pruukjaq mõistvaq võro kiilt. These users speak Võro.

Can you repair them if needed and place them to the right places. --Võrok 22:10, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Well, thank you Võrok. I added the templates on French and English Wikipedias, see fr:Wikipedia:Babel/fiu-vro and en:Wikipedia:Babel#fiu-vro - Võro (Võro)). I just changed the text-size in the left cell: 1.2em for the French templates, and 11pt for the English templates. I also added your author's name and wiki address in the history commentary for each template. :o) Hégésippe | ±Θ± 22:57, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
Suur teno/Grand merci, Hégésippe! :) --Võrok 18:20, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

[toimõndaq] Lock the wiki?

Hi Võrok. Remember how enthusiastic you were about setting this wiki up? Well... it's been several months now and the Võro Wikipedia 'community' has produced a grand total of 134 articles, the vast majority of which are useless substubs. You seem to be the main editor, if not the only editor, and all you do is turn up occasionally to revert some vandalism. Could you tell the world how you see the future unfolding for this Wikipedia? Are you going to write any useful content? Is there any possibility of getting anyone else involved in the project? I ask because if things go on as they are there is clearly no point in the Wikimedia Foundation hosting this site. If the only editing that is done consists of someone posting linkspam which sits around for ages until you can be bothered to revert it, it would be better if the wiki was locked as soon as possible. If you don't mind, I'll contact the developers and give them the go-ahead to do this in about 48 hours, as anyone can confirm that this is an inactive project. Thanks. Toomas 06:56, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Tere, Toomas! Ma ei ole harjunud eestlastega (oled ju ikka eestlane?) inglise keeles kõnelema ega kirjuvahetust pidama, kuidagi väga pentsik tundub :) Kuid ma aiman küll, miks Sa seda teed, küllap tahad oma kirja hiljem rahvusvaheliselt eksponeerida. Su kirjas on üksjagu õigust, kuid üksjagu ka põhjendamatult agressiivset ähvardust. Kõigepealt seda, et ma pole mitte ainuke võru viki toimetaja, peale minu on ikka veel mõni. Ühega neist oleme võru viki arendamise üle pikalt arutanud ja meil on mitu head mõtet idanemas. Võru viki on väikse keele viki kohta sügiskuudel üsna kiiresti arenenud. Vaiksem periood on olnud ehk viimane kuu. Sinu ähvardus võru viki sulgemisest on väga kohatu ja imelik. Väikeste keelte vikid ei saa kunagi olla sama edukad ja aktiivsed kui suurte omad. Kuna toimetajaid on vähe, on neil oma tõusud ja mõõnad, ja see on nii enam-vähem kõikide väikeste keelte vikidega. See ei anna aga mingit õigustust viki kinnipanekuks - ja veel 48 tunni jooksul! Millest selline vihane kannatamatu ähvardus? Viki sulgemise ähvardus on ikka väga tõsine ja murettekitav akt, kas annad sellest endale aru? Ma ei usu, et võru viki on sellise asja tõega ära teeninud. Annan Su kirja edasi ka (wikipedia listile). --Võrok 18:39, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Of course we do mind this, Toomas! Võrok has done a great work creating the Võro Wikipedia, but he is not the only editor. I have also written some articles and plan to write some more soon. Of course, it would be great if the project were more active, but let's compare it with other (e.g. Estonian) Wikipedias. If I correctly interprete the statistics, then during the first half year (Aug-Dec 2002) Estonian Wikipedia had 2 editors who wrote 140 articles. Well, nobody has locked Estonian Wikipedia yet ... --Valdis

[toimõndaq] Kurów

Could you please write a stub http://fiu-vro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kur%C3%B3w - just a few sentences based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kur%C3%B3w or it wiki? Only 2 -5 sentences enough. Please. Pietras1988 11:24, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

It's done. --Võrok 12:40, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Very thx. You made this article on 99th language ;). Look: http://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kur%C3%B3w_%28powiat_pu%C5%82awski%29&action=history . Pietras1988

tere, tahan öelda, et administraatorina must siin enam eriti tolku ei ole, patt on toda ametit omada, annaks need õigused pigem näiteks Valdisele --Ker 11:34, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Tere! Valdis võiks muidugi administraator olla, kui ta ise sellega nõus on, mis aga ei tähenda, et sina seda ka olla ei võiks. Kui sa ka praegu siin midagi ei korralda, siis mõeldes selle peale, et kunagi on ikkagi vaja ka võru keelefail tervikuna korda teha ja tööle panna, mille juures sinu abi kindlasti vaja läheb, siis, selle peale mõeldes võiks su staatuse säilitada, kui sul endal just väga midagi selle vastu pole. Ega see ju midagi halba tee ega leiba küsi.--Võrok 12:45, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Ma ei tunne administraatoriõigustest küll mingit puudust. Ei oskakski nendega midagi pääle hakata. Tehnilise poole suhtes olen täielik võhik. --Valdis 15:57, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

[toimõndaq] Article request

Greetings Võrok!, Can you please help me write a stub for this article which is based on the Estonian article just 2-4 lines would be sufficient enough. Your help would be appreciated (I do not know what the correct Võro title should be).

Regards -- Jose77, 00:09 Wednesday 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Thankyou so much Võrok for the excellent article! It is gratefully appreciated. May Võro wikipedia prosper! -- Jose77, 21:07 Saturday 25 March 2006 (UTC)

[toimõndaq] Katowice

Hello. I'm wikipedia redactor from Poland. We do some action for tranlation atricle about one of the biggest polish city simple:Katowice. Could You make some translation into this wikipedia native language of this article ? Just a few senteces. Please. There is source article in English: en:Katowice.

Best Regards.

It's done.-Võrok 22:15, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Stimoroll form Poland

[toimõndaq] Võru väljendid

Tervist, Peep Eesti Vikipeediast jällegi (peaks vist siin ennast registreerima :))

Ma lugesin inglise Vikis võru keele artiklit ja avastasin, et List of common phrases in various languages alt puudub Võru keel - kas viitsiksid sinna alla kirjutada mõned sagedased võrukeelsed väljendid? 84.50.170.65 01:52, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Tere! Aitäh soovituse seest, tegingi ära.--193.40.12.10 13:46, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[toimõndaq] List of tongue-twisters

Tere! Admin, kes selle loetelu ära kustutas, oli en:User:Tijuana Brass. Seejuures kustutamise põhjenduseks pani ta, et on juba transwikitud. Tõesti asja Wikibooks'is ei paista olevat, küsisin talt järgi, mis toimub. Kuni artiklit üles leitud või taastatud pole, võib koopia leida näiteks siit: [1]. Rain74 15:06, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Aitäh! --Võrok 21:21, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Avastasin, et artikkel paigutati küll Wikibooks'i, kuid sealne administraator kustutas selle kohe ära. Kuigi minu arvates sobib see loetelu Vikipeediasse veel vähem, palusin selle esialgu Vikipeedias taastada (vt en:Wikipedia:Deletion Review#List of tongue-twisters). 11:39, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Tundub, et nimekirjale on leitud koht: [2] (igale keelele tahetakse vist oma lehekülg teha). Rain74

Selge, aitäh info eest :) --Võrok 15:13, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[toimõndaq] Hi, bot flag :S

Hi...

I have make the request in meta and they say me "Vorok is bureaucrat inf fiu-vro". Now I present me. I¡m superzerocool from es.wikipedia, whe I'm sysop and bureaucrat. I do my request in this page in March of this year. Somethings doesn't work in my meta request and the peopel in meta say that yo you can get the flag bot in this wiki. Now, you decide. My bot is running in many wikies. You can see here. Best Regards. --Superzerocool 02:46, 31 hainakuu 2006 (UTC)

Hi Superzerocool! As I said in discussion room of fiu-vro wiki you are welcome!. Your metawiki bot have done good work in fiu-vro. The only thing I ask you is: please add interwiki links ordered by name of language (like in fi and et wikis) not by language code, if possible. (just follow the rules of: http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:Saatkond#Interwiki_guidelines). --Võrok 14:26, 31 hainakuu 2006 (UTC)

[toimõndaq] help in beta wiki change interface to English

i saw u in beta wiki last changes page, so i turn to u for help my interface is there is Finnish i want to change it to English. how?--71.247.132.175 22:51, 28 urbõkuu 2007 (UTC)