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[edit] Installing the fonts
Great, you have to download and install the fonts. I did so for two of the fonts ... and then what? I cannot see anything but empty rectangles, yet. I tried with Opera, Firefox and Maxthon (IE) - neither of them works (all have been restarted before trying).
So what exactly does one have to do to read these pages? Please write to nibble.of.byte at gmail dot com.
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- In Windows 2000 / XP: Go to Start>Run, type regedit.exe, navigate to "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\LanguagePack" right click in the right part of the window, New>DWORD (or similar). Name the DWORD "SURROGATE" (without the quotes) and double click it and enter 2 as new value. Restart Windows. If a Gothic font is installed, Gothic should now work for most applications (if Internet Explorer doesn't work, try Mozilla Firefox, that works for me). To test, try copying some gothic text to notepad and setting the font to a Gothic font.
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- Hi I tried this and it doesn't work... any hints? (Running Windows XP) 198.54.202.242 12:51, 10 July 2005 (UTC) (Servien)
- I've tried this too, but to no avail!!! :((( --84.114.144.54 12:58, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
- Hi I tried this and it doesn't work... any hints? (Running Windows XP) 198.54.202.242 12:51, 10 July 2005 (UTC) (Servien)
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- In Linux, Surrogate Characters (used to write Gothic, 2 digital characters form one glyph) should work out of the box, and installing a Gothic font to ~/.fonts should do the trick, at least in GNOME / KDE distro's.
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- In Mac OS X, Surrogate Characters should just work, after installing a Gothic font.
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- In older versions of Windows, I have no idea, perhaps it is not possible because of bad Unicode support...
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- HarΓ°or 12:05, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
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- Thank you very much. I'm still unable to see Gothic, but now I know why: I am using Windows 98!
- --84.160.254.145 06:41, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
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- Some people say they have made them work on Windows 9x [1]. I got a copy of the latest USP10.DLL and installed it but surrogates still don't work for me. It could be because other DLLs are required, recent DLL versions are flagged to disable the feature on Windows 9x, or the registry needs to be edited. It'd be helpful to see the discussion from the Unicode mailing list, but the archives are closed. G0th007
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- They now (after installing the latest version of USP10.dll) work on my Windows 98 computer, but only in Wordpad.--84.160.216.231 14:44, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
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- You're right, it works in Wordpad. This means somebody could make a browser plugin or Firefox extension to make surrogates work in Win9x if they could figure out what API issues are stopping them working with other programs. G0th007
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Hello, I found a intermediate way to read the texts with firefox : instead of using UTF-8, I use ISO-8859-1 (Occidental). That meens that instead of having πππΏπΌπ° πΌπ°πΉπΌπ±ππ°π½π° for "fruma maimbrana", you have Γ°ΒΒβ Γ°ΒΒβΓ°ΒΕΒΏΓ°ΒΕΒΌΓ°ΒΕΒ° Γ°ΒΕΒΌΓ°ΒΕ°ðΒΕΒΉΓ°ΒΕΒΌΓ°ΒΕΒ±Γ°ΒΒβΓ°ΒΕ°ðΒΕΒ½Γ°ΒΕΒ°, which you can read with the appropriate "codec" :
Γ°ΒΕΒ° -> a/1 ; Γ°ΒΕΒ± -> b/2 ; Γ°ΒΕΒ² -> g/3 ; Γ°ΒΕΒ³ -> d/4 ; Γ°ΒΕΒ΄ -> e/5 ; Γ°ΒΕΒ΅ -> q/6 ; Γ°ΒΕΒΆ -> z/7 ; Γ°ΒΕΒ· -> h/8 ; Γ°ΒΕΒΈ -> ΓΎ/9 ; Γ°ΒΕΒΉ -> i/10 ; Γ°ΒΕΒΊ -> k/20 ; Γ°ΒΕΒ» -> l/30 ; Γ°ΒΕΒΌ -> m/40 ; Γ°ΒΕΒ½ -> n/50 ; Γ°ΒΕΒΎ -> j/60 ; Γ°ΒΕΒΏ -> u/70 ; Γ°ΒΒβ¬ -> p/80 ; Γ° -> 90 ; Γ°ΒΒβ -> r/100 ; Γ°ΒΒΖ -> s/200 ; Γ°ΒΒβ -> t/300 ; Γ°ΒΒβ¦ -> w/400 ; Γ°ΒΒβ -> f/500 ; Γ°ΒΒβ‘ -> x/600 ; Γ°ΒΒΛ -> Ζ/700 ; Γ°ΒΒβ° -> o/800 ; Γ°ΒΒΕ -> 900
-- Sajasazi 18:21, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Numeral policy
How should we handle numbers? At the moment, I use the Gothic glyphs representing the numbers (eg. π΄ = 5) but underlined and bold, like π΄ for 5 or 5th. What should be the policy for this? Roman, Western or Gothic numerals, and if Gothic numerals, how to put them apart from normal text to increase readability?
HarΓ°or 12:05, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
- Hails HarΓ°or,
- I think it is best to use Gothic numerals. I suggest using the Greek numeral sign after every single one. π΄ΚΉ for example is 5.
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- Hails HarΓ°or jah "Anonymu",
- I think the best way to imitate the Gothic numeral system is to use Gothic glyphs underlined and with two numeral signs, as ΚΉπ΄ΚΉ.--Meljands 18:09, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I thought middle dots (U+00B7 MIDDLE DOT) are used for numbers, for example "Β·π΄Β·" and "Β·πΊπ΄Β·". +Hexagon1 (t) π·π΄πΊππ°π²ππ½ Β·π°Β· 13:27, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Raison d'Γͺtre
why was this wiki set up. there is no one working on it and no community. the people who argued to get it weren't prepared to actually do any work on it, they thought someone else would write an encyclopedia for them!
- Oh shut up you stupid git
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- Well you have to admit he has a point. No one is working on this Wikipedia....
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- Hey, I am! πΌπ°ππ½π°π½π΄π» 17:27, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
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- Bollocks you are! Look at his contributions everyone! lol
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[edit] Gothic Keyboard
I've written a little piece of JavaScript to help out with typing in the Gothic alphabet: http://marnanel.org/gothic . Let me know if you find it useful. πΌπ°ππ½π°π½π΄π» 00:56, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
- I have tried your program and I find it really useful! It makes workng on the Gothic Wikipedia much easier.--84.160.210.57 15:33, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
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- If you're on Windows 2k or XP, you want to use this.
I don't know what you've been doing programming the gothic fonts. Further you don't seem to recognize gothic written diskussion (see "atta unsar - diskussion"). Fact is that your mutations cannot be seen in history by all users and that not only I but also other users mutating an article are not able to save the mutated text with the given script font - although it is correctly to be seen before saving. W. B. 7.9.2005
[edit] Gothic?
Howcome nobody's conversing in Gothic here? I expected to fing a thriving community of fluent Gothic speakers here. Was this encyclopedia just set up because some goths thought it would be cool to have their own Wikipedia?
- There's isn't many people who knows Gothic here. I think we're 4 to speak a bit and editing more than one time, and only one of us four speaks Gothic enough to discuss in Gothic -- Sajasazi 11:58, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Counting the articles
Possibly, we should count a Gothic alphabet article and its Latin transliteration as one article, not two ones? The text in both of the articles is expected to be the same, only the alphabets used are different... Besides, I hope that Gothic Wikipedia will sooner or later get an automatic convertor from one graphic system to another (as in Chinese Wikipedia, where one can choose options for showing hieroglyphs either traditional or simplified), and in that case there will no longer be necessary to write separate articles in each of the alphabets. -- Alexander Gerashchenko 15:05, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
- I think there is no good reason to be writing separate articles for each of the alphabets or writing the same thing twice, especially as the two copies will never be in sync. It should be easy to have an automatic transliterator like with the Chinese Wikipedia's Traditional <---> Simplified system, but someone who knows how to and has the access has to do it has to be found. There must be a place on meta.wikipedia.org to ask for help with this one. Addendum - Gothic runes should be supported too though it appears one minor letter is missing from unicode. G0th007
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- I'd suggest e-mailing the wikitech-l mailing list, which the developers frequent. β Minh Nguyα» n / Nguyα» n XuΓ’n Minh 04:39, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] latin/gotic
Shouldn't the latin alphabet/gotic alphabet versions be handled trough automatic conversion, like in sr: and zh: ?
- Sure, but how ? -- Sajasazi 14:56, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] wikipedia
Hello, sorry for my english. Could you maybe please make an interwikilink from en:Wikipedia to your article about wikipedia, or create that article? Thanks a lot. effe iets anders 11:22, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] I've never installed a language pack before.
Q: I need clear, step by step instructions. I'm on windows xp.
A: Well I cant find any (WORKING) language pack for this if you find one you can just drag and drop the TTF/file in the in the font file in control panel (MOST OF THE TIME) some times its a lot harder for XP users you put the ZIPPED file in a new folder in C:(Folder Name Here) and extract the files in the folder keep the zip file and go in your fonts file click file in the upper left corner and click install new font file and when a pop up comes up look for the file you have your font/TTF/File in the C:Drive in the lower box you should see it in the upper box click on it and install it i should be working know if not find a simpler one to use or check if it has instructions.
PS: I fixed the Grammar in your Question to avoid if there is mods MODS FURY.
[edit] broken interwiki link
The link to the German wp should be de:Hauptseite, not de:Haupseite --217.83.116.48 22:08, 7 October 2006 (UTC)