User talk:Derek Ross
Frae Wikipedia
Hiya-- YOU SPEAK A LANGUAGE THAT DOESNT FUCKING EXIST. (said someone who wasn't sure how the caps lock button worked.)
- Heh, heh. That's a good trick, if you think about it. -- Derek Ross 20:15, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
A wis thinkin on revertin that than A thocht ye micht wad like tae see sicna gem for yersel - Anon
- Glad ye left it. A wis needin a guid laugh. Cheers -- Derek Ross 06:24, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
I made you sysop. If anyone complain, please tell us :-) Anthere 11:41, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Thanks, Anthere. Once a community of editors forms, we'll ratify our positions. -- Derek Ross 14:23, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Hi there, Derek. Great to see we've got the Scots wiki up!!! Congratulations of being admin, too. I am a little scared to edit anything presently as we seem to be i na state of flux. Yet I wish to keep contributing; do you have any advice for me? BryanAJParry
- Aye, it's grand that it's finally ready! I'm that pleased! I'm o the opeinion that fowk soud be made admins until they ill-uise the administrative pooers an I intend tae ask for bureaucrat pooers sae that I can make maist committed fowk, sic as yersel, admins gin they speir for it and hae a fair tae guid grasp o Scots. My advice tae ye richt noo is this. Dinna be feart, Bryan. Ye've daen gran wark up till noo an I'm suir hopin that ye'll cerry on. Hiv at it wi airticles. Oor priority juist noo soud be tae hae nae reid links on the main page and gin that's maist quickly daen bi translatin airticles frae ither wikipaedias, sae it maun be. I'm nae ower worrit aboot spellin richt noo (though in the lang rin I support the RRSSC standard). I juist think that fur noo we should follae a policy o "quantity ower quality". We can aye fix spellin aifter. There's nivver a lack o fowk that'd liefer fix spellin nor screive new material in ma experience. Cheers -- Derek Ross 18:51, 25 Jui 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Logo
Hi Derek,
So... what's the verdict on the logo? It would be a shame if the Scots Wikipedia logo were identical to the English one, but at the same time I think it's important to follow RSSCC standards. --Node ue 08:34, 3 Jul 2005 (UTC)
- Well, no real verdict on it at the moment, Mark. It may be that we just end up with the same logo. I thought that ae instead of e would be a straightforward uncontroversial differentiator. Oh well, wrong again. I hadn't considered the RRSSC standards. It wouldn't be a tragedy if the Scots and English logos were the same but as you say it it would be a shame. the trouble is that the Scots word for "free" is "free", so the Wikipedia/encyclopedia bit is the only bit that we can really change. I suppose we should leave it for now and come back to it when there's been more discussion. -- Derek Ross 3 Julie 2005 18:42 (UTC)
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- A'v haed a shottie at pittin Wikipaedia in the logo wi a picter-pentin programme (Wiki-sco.png). Aiblins no the finest bit darg that's iver been duin but its a stairt;-) Gin its awricht ye micht coud aiblins swap it for the ane we hae the nou.
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- Jimmy 11:55, 19 Augist 2005 (UTC)
- Guid on ye, man! A'll certainly dae that. A'd like ti ask for ae smaa chynge first tho. Cuid ye mak the middle A the same pynt size as the lave? It's juist the first an last letters that shuid be bigger nor the ithers. -- Cheers Derek Ross 15:24, 19 Augist 2005 (UTC)
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- Thon A wis the bittie that gied us grief. A set it a size wee-er an it wis ower wee. AIblins hae anither shottie wi ither saftware - time tho - isna on ma side.
- Jimmy 17:10, 19 Augist 2005 (UTC)
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- A see. Weel, A wad spik ti Node ue aboot it. He daes maist o thir logos an he micht dow tell ye the fonts that he uises. -- Derek Ross 17:33, 19 Augist 2005 (UTC)
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- Shuid we mibbe uise a ligatur, sae WIKIPÆDIA: The Free Encyclopædia? (The mak o the Auld English wiki, but athoot the accent.) Juist sae's tae sinder this æ, aye pronoonced /i/ as faur's A ken, frae the RRSSC ae, pronoonced /i/ or /ɪ/ or /e/. Mendor 17:25, 19 Augist 2005 (UTC)
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- That's a fine idea. -- Derek Ross 17:29, 19 Augist 2005 (UTC)
- Hivvin sayed that, that maks it a bittie difficult tae screive Wikipædia in normal airticles, A daursay. Possible but a bit o a fash.
- Sorry tae invade yer collogue page, by the by, Derek -- mibbe we shuid be haein this discussion here? Mendor 17:47, 19 Augist 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Pittin the uiser-interface ower intae Scots
Derek, A haed a keek at the suggeestions that's been made for owersettin some o the navigation airtins on the stairt page.
Ye're richt aboot dicht no bein richt for delete. Whit aboot ding by? Mair oot ower, here's a puckle ithers A'v thocht on but nae dout ye'll can pynt oot hou thay micht be takkin things ower faur.
Efter A'm loggit in A can see a wheen tags (Eng. tabs) at the tap o the page that A can wale, an a puckle airtins for ma ain accoont.
"ma settins" for preferences wad fit weel wi the ithers that maist aw haes ma afore thaim. On this page wad "Misc settins" no be antrin settins? Aiblins ma inpit for "ma contreebutions"?
flit for muve (page) wad evite threaps anent spellin muve, muive or moove.
Coud we no uise disclamation for "disclaimer" at the dowp-end o the page? Mair Scots 'legalese' nor English?
Some o the ithers wisna bad like ingang for "main page" an tuilbox for "toolbox".
Jimmy 5 Julie 2005 13:52 (UTC)
- "Inpit" soons a bit "computery" an I think that "ingang" is mair like "Wey in" nor "Main Page". "Ding" wuid be fine for "smash" but its connotations o hittin mak it a bit ower the tap for "delete". Mynd you A hinna cam up wi a guid owersettin for onie o thae masel, an nae for the want o tryin I micht add. But I wis taen by "tuilkist" an I'm fand o "disclamation", "ma settins", "antrin settins", "tags" an "flit", sae I'll chynge them later the day. We'll baith hae tae keep on thinkin aboot the ithers. -- Thanks Derek Ross 5 Julie 2005 14:58 (UTC)
Are ye richt shuir that propines is a plural. A haed a keek in the SND but coudna find ony example uisin a plural. Mebbes juist propine as a verb eggin fowk tae gie something.
A haed anither thoch aboot delete. Whit aboot dae awa wi tho mebbes mixtur-maxturin mair formal an informal styles winna wirk richt. Help you wad be need a haud or gie's a haund. Aw the same Delete an help is sae muckle Scots as English. Gin we haud wi edit coud we no cry history bygane edits?
Can thon Vote thingmie at the tap o the page no be pitten ower intae Scots. A think it wad be guid tae set the feck o the uiser-interface ower intae Scots as a priority. It's whit maist fowk will see first an maks a better impression nor whan the tae hauf o't is in English. A ken ye're awfu thrang at it , this isna a creeticism juist ma opeenion o whit priorities shoud be. Mebbes lat us ken whit hings thegither wi the stairt page sae's A can aiblins whiles pit some o't ower intae Scots. The Button Shaw cynges" ablo is aye still in English.
Jimmy 6 Julie 2005 12:03 (UTC)
- I'm nae worrit aboot "propine" -- een atho "drink money" is gien as ain o the aulder meanins in Chambers Concise! Lorimer uises it as a plural noun in his New Testament tae mean "tithes" or "donations". I mind seein it in Acks somewey.
- "Dae awa wi" isna bad for "delete", and likewise yer ideas for "help" an "history" are fine eneuch. The thing is I'm nae feart til uise a word juist because it's uised in English an aa. Sae I had nae plans ti chynge "help" or "history". "Delete", I will chynge. But gin ither fowk want "help" an "history" chynged an aa, I'll mak the chynges. For masel, I'd liefer mair formal phrasin.
- I canna finnd whaur the "Vote" message is saufit itherwise I'd hae chynged it masel. Sorry aboot that. As for the rest o the interface, I gree wi you: chyngin it is my priority (aifter work an kin oniewey). Mendor an masel haed maistlins daen it, syne version 1.5 o the wiki wis installed wi a hantle o new buttons an seistem messages an sae we haev mair ti dae. -- Derek Ross 6 Julie 2005 19:07 (UTC)
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- Quo the SND on "delete": "Found in O.Sc. from c.1420". Sae if the ae alternative is "dae awa wi" — an A think that's gey ower informal — A dinna think we shuid be feart tae uise whit is a tradeitional Scots word (sae lang's we keep the Latinate pp, o coorse!) Mendor 7 Julie 2005 19:57 (UTC)
- PS: A'v been leukin for that Vote message an aa -- aa the ither wikis seem tae hiv owerset it -- but hivna funnd it. Mendor
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- It wis at MediaWiki:Sitenotice. Aa that wis thare afore wis "-", sae it's no surpreisin we cuidna finnd it. The saftware maun hae been substitutin the English version bi defaut. It's owerset nou. Mendor 7 Julie 2005 21:40 (UTC)
- Aha! Weel duin that man! We'll hae ti mind that for neist time -- Derek Ross 8 Julie 2005 03:58 (UTC)
[edit] Template:Uiserpage
I noticed that you are using the Template:userpage on the English Wikipedia. I've created something similar here Template:Uiserpage. As always put {{Uiserpage}} to use it. --Colin Angus Mackay 21:48, 21 Julie 2005 (UTC)
Thanks, man. I'll dae that. -- Derek Ross 14:36, 22 Julie 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks for your help
Thanks Derek for your help. I created quite a few articles recently not having read your message and now am sad I hadn't read it to start with.
According to the dictionary that I'd been using "An wa" meant aswell. I didn't know it meant And Wall :P. I'll have another look at your advise and start out create a better wikipedia scots edition. Thanks again, Nou Uiserr
- Nae bother. Ye're daein gey weel. Bi the bi, that's nae ane o thae Monty Python dictionars, is't ? <grin>. -- Derek Ross 22:12, 3 Augist 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Arnhem
Hi Derek, thanks for copyediting Arnhem, and (if it's not too much work) plz. continue to do so, it's the best way for me to learn a little bit of Scots. So I might upgrade my Scots skills from sco-0 to sco-1 as Colin Angus Mackay suggested on my user talk. ;-) Moribunt 21:57, 3 Augist 2005 (UTC)
- That's grand. I'm shuir ye'll pick it up in nae time. It's rael fine ti see Scots lairners like yersel an Nou Uiserr holpin oot. Cheers -- Derek Ross 22:09, 3 Augist 2005 (UTC)
[edit] A suggestion
Derek, I'm rather fond of wikipedia scots the way it is now, but there is one thing I'd like to bring to your attention. It says there is 168 articles or something like that, but whenever I use the random article option it mainly brings me to the Date Articles. And generally they are rather uninspiring. So I wanted to know if it's possible to cut them out of the random article bit. Thanks, Nou Uiserr
- Sorry, man, I canna dae oniething anent that. The function is biggit intil the saftware, sae I canna chynge it. It'll get better as we eik airticles on ither stuff nor dates but it micht be a whilie afore the Date airticles are swamped by the lave. I mind the time that the RAMBOT eikit aa the US touns ti the English Wikipedia. For a while the random function there wis mair like to gie ye a US toun than no. It wis a lang time afore it gaed back ti normal. The ae thing we can dae is to screive (or owerset) mair airticles frae the leet that aa Wikipedias shuid hae. Sorry. -- Derek Ross 22:55, 3 Augist 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Questions
Derek I wanted to know how you'd delete a page because there are several I've created that have been redirected or just need deletion. Nou Uiserr
- For nou mairk the pages wi a category [[Category:Please delete]] -- an Mendor or masel will dae it for ye.
- Aiblins somebodie wi mair time nor me cuid copy the {{speedy deletion}} template frae the English Wikipedia. If no, A'll dae it the nicht. -- Derek Ross 15:17, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
- Richt. A'v copied the {{delete}} template, sae ye can uise that. -- Derek Ross 06:03, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Offensive or Not?
I've noticed an anonymous user has been changing Pope to "Pape" in any of my religious articles. I'm not too sure if it's meant to be offensive or not because I've heard people say Papist to be offensive...Since I think you have a better understanding of he language I'd like to ask you. Nou Uiserr
- "Pape" is just the Scots for "Pope" and is not offensive, so no need to worry there. However "Papist" is generally considered offensive because of its use by people who don't like the Catholic church (or Catholics in general). Most Scots would talk about "Catholics" whether speaking Scots or English. Only those who wished to show their dislike of the Catholic Church would speak about "Papists". In English the equivalent word is "Popist" but it is rather archaic nowadays owing to the much reduced anti-Catholic feeling among English-speaking people around the world. "Papist" is now more commonly used than "Popist" by English-speakers who feel the need. They don't know that they're using a Scots word but it's commonly used by Ulster Scots like Ian Paisley whereas almost nobody uses "Popist" nowadays. -- Derek Ross 03:46, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks for the speedy response Nou Uiserr
[edit] date airticles
juist tae congratulate ye on the gran wark ye'r pittin intae the date airticles -- maun be an awfu trauchle for ye but it's gey appreciate! Mendor 11:43, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks, Mendor, nice o ye ti sey. Ti tell ye the truth it's nae that muckle a trauchle. There's nae thinkin needit for maist o them. Juist copy, paste, an mak a puckle wee chynges. It's a fine relaxin wey ti feenish the day. -- Derek Ross 16:09, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Muckle
A'd like tae ken why awbodies uisses Lairge an sic whan ye can uise Muckle. The wird haes bi nou a distinct Scots reeng (The Inglis Mickle lang forgotten) an A dinna believe that na Scotsman haes sain that wird fae 1000 ti Nou, acause A've een it in ma Scots-Inglis Dictionar. Nou Uiserr
- Weel in English, ye can sey "big", "large", "huge" or ither words o that ilk. They haev seemlar meanins but nae exackly the same. Fowk wad agree that "huge" is a bittie bigger nor "large". In the same wey, "muckle" is bigger nor "lairge", sae maist fowk juist uise it for a thing that's unco lairge. -- Derek Ross 19:30, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Gif
Why was the gif page deleted? Nou Uiserr
Because it was describing the word "Gif" and Wikipedia doesn't do that because Wikipedia is an encyclopedia not a dictionary. Wiktionary does though, so if you want to submit it there, go ahead. "Occident" and "Orient" in their current forms are candidates for deletion as well since they are currently describing the words, "Occident" and "Orient", instead of the places. However I did not delete them since they can be changed into articles on the Occident and the Orient rather than articles about the words "Occident" and "Orient".
It's as if the George Bush article said
- George Bush is the name of the the current US president. It consists of two words. The first one starts with G and is six letters long. The second starts with B and is four letters. George has been a popular name in English speaking countries since the reign of the first King George. Bush is a surname as well as a word used to name woody plants which are not trees, etc., etc.
An article like that would not be about George Bush. It would be about the words "George Bush". That is what the "Gif", "Orient" and "Occident" articles are (or were) like. Such articles will be deleted because they are not the sort of article that Wikipedia is for. -- Derek Ross 00:22, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] What's the longest word in scots?
I was just wondering today what the longest word is in scots and I guessed that if anyone knew it'd be you. Nou Uiserr
Ye've got me there. "Unrichteousness" is the langest I can think o juist nou. Onybodie got a langer ane ? -- Derek Ross 05:15, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
A wis leukin throu a Scottis Dictionar the day, an coudna fin onie wirds owre fifteen letters. A did fin these twa wird thou, "Rimburstenness" & "Colliebuction". The first is the state o bein unner a hernia, an the secoint is juist a threap... Dis onie bodie hae langer wirds? Nou Uiserr
[edit] Letters
Whan leukin owre DSL A see'd an aulder scots letter an wantit it pittin unto wikipaedia sae A can make an Airticle aboot it - gin ye coud uplaid it or something it'd be maist appreciatit. Nou Uiserr
Wattir-ett Nou Uiserr
- a pedant butts in Thon pictur ye'v pit in for in wattir-ȝett is an ezh, no a yogh. A yogh haes a roondit tap hauf. Ȝ ȝ. In theorie yoghs haes Unicode code pynts U+021C (muckle) an U+021D (wee) -- but A hae ma douts whither thay'll kythe i the page athoot a special font or some ither bit o trickery. HTH tho it probably disna. Dae ye see ma yoghs abuin or ar thay juist wee kisties? Mendor 10:35, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
Mebbe A hae uised the wrang letter, but gin a haed DSL haes tae. Type in Yogh intil thare box. The letters ye typed is juist kyskies upo ma brouser. Nou Uiserr
Weel, it micht hae bin uised in the 1700s an aerlier but we dinna uise it the day. An A dinna think that its muckle uise spellin words wi letters that fowk canna see athoot a font upgrade. -- Derek Ross 04:36, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
A unnerstaund whit yer sayin, an wadnae uiss the letter oniewey (it's juist on Dost) but it seemed intrestin... Nou Uiserr
Richt eneuch. Airticles on thae twa auld letters wadna be a bad thing. For ae thing it micht help fowk to unnerstand the wey that names sic as "Dalziel" an "Menzies" are pronoonced "Dayell" an "Mingis". -- Derek Ross 05:37, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Thank ye fer y'us helpin!
Hiya, Derek Ross. A wantit tae say thank ye fer knockin thut wee little scrote Willy on Wheels on tha heed. He's a richt wee little knobbler wha's ben bannt aa ower the shop on tha Inglis Wiki. A lift yer a postie on Wikipedia:Mercat Cross durin tha nocht aboot him. Anyhoo, glad tae see tha little eejit's bin pointit at tha door fer a whiel. Guid on ye! (I know my scots ain't perfect, but i hope ye get what i'm saying!) Thor24 15:28, 5 Februar 2006 (UTC)
- Nae bother, Thor. A wad hae duin it onywey. A ken the feel an the wey he warks. A juist hope he disna stairt a campaign here. -- Derek Ross 19:10, 5 Februar 2006 (UTC)
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- Weel, A work on 't Coonter Vandalism Unit at 't Inglis Wiki. Hoo'd a become a admin here? I cud help yer keepin a eye on 't Scots site. Bin editin Inglis wiki back tae 2004... Whut ya sey? Thor24 20:30, 5 Februar 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hola
It's me, you told me to make an article, since i'm new i don't know how to do that, can you teach or tell me, i know i'm writing in english but i'm not good writing in scots albeit i can read most of it and understand it. Redsportscar323 21:50, 14 Februar 2006 (UTC)
- Okay. As I see it you need to learn two things:
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- (1) How Wikipedia works
- (2) How to write in Scots
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- In order to do (1) I recommend that you follow this course of lessons which explain in English how to make an article. Once you have completed that try reading the following articles
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- Welcome!
- New user tutorial (same as the course of lessons above)
- Sandbox
- Wikipedia Boot Camp
- New user log
- What Wikipedia is not
- Glossary
- which explain not just the technical bits but also the philosophy and etiquette of Wikipedia. Finally I would suggest that once you have read those links that you try contributing to the English Wikipedia until you get the hang of it.
- For (2) you need to read books in Scots. This will give you a better feel for Scots spelling and grammar.
- Once you are happy that you are proficient with (1) and (2), you will be a definite asset to the Scots Wikipedia. -- Derek Ross 06:37, 16 Februar 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Bot
Looking at the number of articles I suppose it's a rather new wiki. I'd like to ask for approval on running an interwiki bot here, except I can't find a decent place to do so. Can you recommend anything? Cheers. --Rebel 00:10, 18 Februar 2006 (UTC)
- You're right it's small and new. We maybe have five or six "regulars" and they tend to do spelling/grammar fixes rather than create new articles. Personally I've no objection to you running a bot to add links to other wikis and I doubt that anyone else would have. However if you'd like to check with them, or if the bot does anything else then I suggest that you tell us a bit more about it at the Mercat_Cross. -- Derek Ross 05:42, 18 Februar 2006 (UTC)
No, all I'd like it to do is interwiki. If I was more familiar to the language than I would have had it do categories as well, maybe. I'll post a request for bot flag in the Mercat Cross so it's public. Thanks. Cheers. --Rebel 09:56, 18 Februar 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Kurów
Could you please write a stub http://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kur%C3%B3w - just a few sentences based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kur%C3%B3w ? Only 2 -5 sentences enough. Please. Pietras1988 18:00, 16 Mairch 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry, it's a volunteer project an I chuise the stuff A want tae wark on. A dinnae hae a mind tae write airticles aboot wee touns in Poland whan we're missing airticles on kenspeckle topics like mythology, sae ye'll hae tae wait on some ither bodie (or dae it yersel). -- Derek Ross 01:32, 19 Mairch 2006 (UTC)
[edit] IPA templates
Hello Derek,
Cuid ye hae a leukie at Wikipedia:Mercat_Cross#IPA_templates please?
Cheers, Mendor 14:32, 6 Apryle 2006 (UTC)
[edit] FixScots
Thanks for fixin ma scots in airticle Encyclopaedia. Could ya do the same to few other airticles a've witten? Thanks beforehand! (Ya can find leet o ma airticles here.) --Icepenguin 07:07, 5 Julie 2006 (UTC)
- A'll dae a puckle as A hae the time. -- Cheers Derek Ross 23:27, 5 Julie 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Bureaucratship
Hello Derek ma fere,
Monie thanks for nominatin me for bureaucratship. Gin the commonty appruives o't A s' ettle tae dae ma best wi the job.
A'm thinkin forbye, tho, that you'v been aboot Wikipædia an antrin ither Wiki projects for some time nou an ye ken the wey a'thing wirks better nor me. Wad you accept ma nomination o yoursel for bureaucratship? Mibbe for tae "haud ma haund" a bit gin ye ken whit A mean ;-)
Hou dis bureaucrats get made oniewey? A jalouse the first ane'll hae tae be made bi somebodie frae Meta, but efter we hiv that first ane thay'll can mak mair bureaucrats thairsels -- am A richt? Mendor 18:38, 17 Julie 2006 (UTC)
- Ach, ye'll dae fine, man. The ae differ atween an admin an a bureaucrat is that the bureaucrat can mak new admins an bureaucrats. Tae tell the truth that's fit wey A've proponed ye: we haena oniebodie to dae that the nou an you're daein mair nor I can here (warks takkin up a lot o ma time). Ye're richt: there is mair tae bein a bureaucrat on the muckle wikis like en:, fr: or de: -- whiles ye damn near need the Wisdom o Solomon but on the wee anes whaur awbodie kens awbodie else there's nae muckle differ atween a uiser, an admin an a bureaucrat. The gowden rule for aw three is tae dae as muckle as ye can wi the tuils that awbody haes. Stick tae that an ye winna ging far wrang. A doobt there'll be onie need for hand-haudin. But gin ye've quaistens, speir awa. As ye sey, A'm a bureaucrat on the Gaelic WP an an admin on the English ane, plus A've been warkin on WP sith 2001. Sad tae sey, een wi aw that experience, whiles A still dinna ken whit A'm daein ! Sae dinna fash yersel. An dinna worry aboot makkin me a bureaucrat. There's nae need as lang as wi hae ane at least an we should really be leukin for fowk tae be made admin first.
- As tae whit wey bureaucrats is made. A steward'll mak the first ane (you). Aifter that, ye'll hae anither menu link that lats ye mak new admins an bureaucrats. That's aboot it. -- Derek Ross 05:10, 18 Julie 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Gn- and Kn- Clusters in Doric
Hi there, Derek, you speak "Doric".... as you know. Well, I wanted to know if "kn" and "gn" onsets are still pronounced as such. That is, are words like "knight", "knoll", "knot", "gnat", "gnome" and so on still said with a g and a k sound? If not by you, do you know first hand of this happening elsewhere or by others? And if so, to what degree? Cheers, Bryan. 82.44.212.6 21:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
- Aye, aye, Bryan. Whit like. A dinna ken o onybody that still seys the /g/ in gnat or seemlar but there's a puckle aulder fowk that still seys the /k/ in knowt or knee. An whan fowk sings "Nicky Tams" they'll sey it baith times -- An wrappit roun ma knapping knees, A pair o nicky tams. It's nae that common aye noo an A widna sey it masel for ordinar but it's nae deid yet. -- Derek Ross 02:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
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- Thank you very much!! I recently did a presentation on Doric, and now I am writign an essay on it, so this kind of info. is quite useful (as the info. you find in books can be a little, shall we say, romanticised ). I've another related question. I understand wr- onsets in English became vr- onsets in Doric. Does anyone still pronounce the words this way? That is, English "wrong" is Doric "wrang", but is the "w" pronounced? (whether it's said as a "w" or a "v" sound). Bryan 82.44.212.6 00:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
- Richt eneuch. Noo an again, A've heard fowk sey vrocht (like English, "wrought", but meanin English "done") but it's rael rare in ma experience. A've nivver heard onybody seying "vrang" though I can see that they micht hae at ae time. Nooadays it's rarer nor "kn-" even. An gin it were said, it wid aye be "vr-"; nivver "wr-". -- Derek Ross 19:00, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hello frae a spleet-new body
A'm, like A said, spleet-new at Scots. Gin ye coud tak a gleek at whit A hae duin, A shuirly wad apprise it, in parteecular, Unitarian Universalism. Thank ye! Aleta
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- Aye, aye, Aleta. Gran tae hiv ye warkin on the WP. Ye're daein fine for a beginner, better nor maist in fact. A've nae doot that oor resident "checker", 84.135.233.124, will keep yer text richt gin ye mak mistaks o spellin or graimar. In fact A've little doot, he's duin it awreadies. Sae juist ca awa. A'm fine pleased wi whit ye've daen. -- Derek Ross 10:03, 10 Dizember 2006 (UTC)
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- Thank you! Aleta 05:51, 14 Dizember 2006 (UTC)
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