Wikipedia Klaaf:Ingerfäjß/MessagesKsh.php
Uß de Wikipedia för Ripuarisch Shprooche.
Heä sullte dann wi in LanguageKsh.php Klaaf in Schwaadt ömjeänderet wääde. Un dann de Project Namespace, sollte dat Wikipedia sinn oder Wikkipedija (hämmer jläuven ish ald_ens beklaaft, ääwer ish hann vajesse wat russjekumme eßß.)Düüvelskääl 18:02, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
- Esh hann_et och fojäßße, wat mer doo jesaat hatte.
Dass_e jantß diffisiil Dėnnge, wëijl_mer dat nit en deLanguageZxx
-e ennshtëlle kann. Et moß en de ßöövo-Konfigg_erinn, un da ess_et nėt lëijsh, Ëijne ze krijje, dä se onß änndere dëijd. --Purodha Blissenbach (Klaaf) 03:22, 11. Nov. 2006 (UTC)
[Änndere] Köbes
Wi wöör dat med Wiki_Köbes statt bloß Köbes? Düüvelskääl 18:20, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
- Joode Ide, alld lang jedonn, bloß fojëße, hee hen_ze_schriive. --Purodha Blissenbach (Klaaf) 03:22, 11. Nov. 2006 (UTC)
[Änndere] Several problems
Hello, thank you very much for the language file, but I fear I cannot commit it yet because:
- I don't think that the namespace alias which is specific for Wikipedia is useful. Please ask the maintainers to set $wgMetaNamespace = 'Wikkipedija', don't change it that way.
- It's preferred not to use too much namespace aliases, to be consistent. Are the aliases of the category namespace really necessary?
- It's preferred not to link to articles in ksh.wikipedia.
- It's preferred not to use [[int:MediaWiki:Grouppage-foo|Bar]], because it won't work and is not suitable. Please link whenever the English translation links, and if necessary, change here locally.
Also, please note that I've changed the file a bit here to suit the regular form of the language files.
Also, it will help if you fix the following problems listed by an automated script, to make the translation perfect:
283 messages of 1421 are not translated to ksh, but exist in en:
- sun
- mon
- tue
- wed
- thu
- fri
- sat
- january-gen
- february-gen
- march-gen
- april-gen
- may-gen
- june-gen
- july-gen
- august-gen
- september-gen
- october-gen
- november-gen
- december-gen
- badaccess-group0
- badaccess-group1
- badaccess-group2
- badaccess-groups
- upload_source_url
- imgfile
- imagelist_date
- imagelist_name
- imagelist_user
- imagelist_size
- imagelist_description
- imagelist_search_for
- listusersfrom
- metadata-fields
- exif-imagewidth
- exif-imagelength
- exif-bitspersample
- exif-compression
- exif-photometricinterpretation
- exif-orientation
- exif-samplesperpixel
- exif-planarconfiguration
- exif-ycbcrsubsampling
- exif-ycbcrpositioning
- exif-xresolution
- exif-yresolution
- exif-resolutionunit
- exif-stripoffsets
- exif-rowsperstrip
- exif-stripbytecounts
- exif-jpeginterchangeformat
- exif-jpeginterchangeformatlength
- exif-transferfunction
- exif-whitepoint
- exif-primarychromaticities
- exif-ycbcrcoefficients
- exif-referenceblackwhite
- exif-datetime
- exif-imagedescription
- exif-make
- exif-model
- exif-software
- exif-artist
- exif-copyright
- exif-exifversion
- exif-flashpixversion
- exif-colorspace
- exif-componentsconfiguration
- exif-compressedbitsperpixel
- exif-pixelydimension
- exif-pixelxdimension
- exif-makernote
- exif-usercomment
- exif-relatedsoundfile
- exif-datetimeoriginal
- exif-datetimedigitized
- exif-subsectime
- exif-subsectimeoriginal
- exif-subsectimedigitized
- exif-exposuretime
- exif-exposuretime-format
- exif-fnumber
- exif-fnumber-format
- exif-exposureprogram
- exif-spectralsensitivity
- exif-isospeedratings
- exif-oecf
- exif-shutterspeedvalue
- exif-aperturevalue
- exif-brightnessvalue
- exif-exposurebiasvalue
- exif-maxaperturevalue
- exif-subjectdistance
- exif-meteringmode
- exif-lightsource
- exif-flash
- exif-focallength
- exif-focallength-format
- exif-subjectarea
- exif-flashenergy
- exif-spatialfrequencyresponse
- exif-focalplanexresolution
- exif-focalplaneyresolution
- exif-focalplaneresolutionunit
- exif-subjectlocation
- exif-exposureindex
- exif-sensingmethod
- exif-filesource
- exif-scenetype
- exif-cfapattern
- exif-customrendered
- exif-exposuremode
- exif-whitebalance
- exif-digitalzoomratio
- exif-focallengthin35mmfilm
- exif-scenecapturetype
- exif-gaincontrol
- exif-contrast
- exif-saturation
- exif-sharpness
- exif-devicesettingdescription
- exif-subjectdistancerange
- exif-imageuniqueid
- exif-gpsversionid
- exif-gpslatituderef
- exif-gpslatitude
- exif-gpslongituderef
- exif-gpslongitude
- exif-gpsaltituderef
- exif-gpsaltitude
- exif-gpstimestamp
- exif-gpssatellites
- exif-gpsstatus
- exif-gpsmeasuremode
- exif-gpsdop
- exif-gpsspeedref
- exif-gpsspeed
- exif-gpstrackref
- exif-gpstrack
- exif-gpsimgdirectionref
- exif-gpsimgdirection
- exif-gpsmapdatum
- exif-gpsdestlatituderef
- exif-gpsdestlatitude
- exif-gpsdestlongituderef
- exif-gpsdestlongitude
- exif-gpsdestbearingref
- exif-gpsdestbearing
- exif-gpsdestdistanceref
- exif-gpsdestdistance
- exif-gpsprocessingmethod
- exif-gpsareainformation
- exif-gpsdatestamp
- exif-gpsdifferential
- exif-compression-1
- exif-compression-6
- exif-photometricinterpretation-2
- exif-photometricinterpretation-6
- exif-orientation-1
- exif-orientation-2
- exif-orientation-3
- exif-orientation-4
- exif-orientation-5
- exif-orientation-6
- exif-orientation-7
- exif-orientation-8
- exif-planarconfiguration-1
- exif-planarconfiguration-2
- exif-xyresolution-i
- exif-xyresolution-c
- exif-colorspace-1
- exif-colorspace-ffff.h
- exif-componentsconfiguration-0
- exif-componentsconfiguration-1
- exif-componentsconfiguration-2
- exif-componentsconfiguration-3
- exif-componentsconfiguration-4
- exif-componentsconfiguration-5
- exif-componentsconfiguration-6
- exif-exposureprogram-0
- exif-exposureprogram-1
- exif-exposureprogram-2
- exif-exposureprogram-3
- exif-exposureprogram-4
- exif-exposureprogram-5
- exif-exposureprogram-6
- exif-exposureprogram-7
- exif-exposureprogram-8
- exif-subjectdistance-value
- exif-meteringmode-0
- exif-meteringmode-1
- exif-meteringmode-2
- exif-meteringmode-3
- exif-meteringmode-4
- exif-meteringmode-5
- exif-meteringmode-6
- exif-meteringmode-255
- exif-lightsource-0
- exif-lightsource-1
- exif-lightsource-2
- exif-lightsource-3
- exif-lightsource-4
- exif-lightsource-9
- exif-lightsource-10
- exif-lightsource-11
- exif-lightsource-12
- exif-lightsource-13
- exif-lightsource-14
- exif-lightsource-15
- exif-lightsource-17
- exif-lightsource-18
- exif-lightsource-19
- exif-lightsource-20
- exif-lightsource-21
- exif-lightsource-22
- exif-lightsource-23
- exif-lightsource-24
- exif-lightsource-255
- exif-focalplaneresolutionunit-2
- exif-sensingmethod-1
- exif-sensingmethod-2
- exif-sensingmethod-3
- exif-sensingmethod-4
- exif-sensingmethod-5
- exif-sensingmethod-7
- exif-sensingmethod-8
- exif-filesource-3
- exif-scenetype-1
- exif-customrendered-0
- exif-customrendered-1
- exif-exposuremode-0
- exif-exposuremode-1
- exif-exposuremode-2
- exif-whitebalance-0
- exif-whitebalance-1
- exif-scenecapturetype-0
- exif-scenecapturetype-1
- exif-scenecapturetype-2
- exif-scenecapturetype-3
- exif-gaincontrol-0
- exif-gaincontrol-1
- exif-gaincontrol-2
- exif-gaincontrol-3
- exif-gaincontrol-4
- exif-contrast-0
- exif-contrast-1
- exif-contrast-2
- exif-saturation-0
- exif-saturation-1
- exif-saturation-2
- exif-sharpness-0
- exif-sharpness-1
- exif-sharpness-2
- exif-subjectdistancerange-0
- exif-subjectdistancerange-1
- exif-subjectdistancerange-2
- exif-subjectdistancerange-3
- exif-gpslatitude-n
- exif-gpslatitude-s
- exif-gpslongitude-e
- exif-gpslongitude-w
- exif-gpsstatus-a
- exif-gpsstatus-v
- exif-gpsmeasuremode-2
- exif-gpsmeasuremode-3
- exif-gpsspeed-k
- exif-gpsspeed-m
- exif-gpsspeed-n
- exif-gpsdirection-t
- exif-gpsdirection-m
- confirmemail_noemail
- imgmultipageprev
- imgmultipagenext
- imgmultigo
- imgmultigotopre
- ascending_abbrev
- descending_abbrev
- table_pager_next
- table_pager_prev
- table_pager_first
- table_pager_last
- table_pager_limit
- table_pager_limit_submit
- table_pager_empty
6 messages of 1144 are not exist in en (or are in the ignored list), but still exist in ksh:
- expand_templates_input
- expand_templates_intro
- expand_templates_output
- expand_templates_remove_comments
- expand_templates_title
- expandtemplates
10 messages of 1144 in ksh don't use some variables while en uses them:
- readonlytext
- nosuchuser
- nosuchusershort
- noemail
- passwordsent
- whitelistedittext
- showingresultsnum
- linkshere
- nolinkshere
- confirmemail_body
Again, thanks for the file! Please tell me in the IRC or E-mail when you reply here. – rotemliss – Talk 19:00, 27 Ojjoßß 2006 (UTC)
- Going to make some edits.
- sun … sat are correct as they are, identical in
en
andksh
. - january-gen … december-gen are grammar forms that we do not use.
- Exif-* are pretty useless for us. We have 20 images, maybe 4 JPGs - to be treated later, if someone has some energy for it. This WP has its images generally on commons.
- The rest in the 1st group is probably new, or remains unaltered. (I'm going to check them)
- Expand_templates_* exist since a week or two, maybe in a branch that we have have and is not yet committed generally, I don't know. Tim Startling may know the details.
- Going to check the 10 messages using variables.
-- Purodha Blissenbach 20:07, 27 Ojjoßß 2006 (UTC)
-
- Thanks.
- However, they should be duplicated from there, because all the messages should exist in the language files, except for the ignored messages.
- It's better to duplicate the month names, then, so that {{CURRENTMONTHNAMEGEN}} works, and no problem of missing messages is shown.
- This translation is not only for Wikipedia; however, it's a bit hard to translate the exif messages, so it could be done later. (By the way, you can set the language to ksh in Commons, then it's useful to have these translations.)
- Thanks.
- It's an extension for MediaWiki, therefore it should be moved to there. By the way, it will help to translate the extension messages.
- Thanks.
- – rotemliss – Talk – 08:52, 28 Ojjoßß 2006 (UTC)
-
- When copying data from here, please take it from the wikisource (strip initial and final ~3 lines) since
<nowiki>...</nowiki>
does not protect html entities (which are likely not there, but better be safe than sorry:)- Welcome
- Yes, already saw that when editing, and did it.
- dito.
- I'm aware, and certainly will do them, when time permits. The hard thing is, it needs some lookup of the original meanings, and since I'm a only moderately knowledgeable in the field, and the Kölsch language also not very specialized generally in the various technical specifics of photography … — I'd rather not do it, than badly, and btw. since all the speakers of Ripuarian understand either German or Dutch or French and very often English, it's not hard for them to get along with either, if need be; so exif_* is nice to have but not vital to get the language off the ground in MediaWiki :-)
- Welcome
- Saw that meanwile in svn since its up again for the public. I leaving them as they are, at your disposition for inclusion in the extension.
- There was one (unimportant) case I could not figure out, lets leave it now as delayed to the next update :-)
- As to the namespace aliases, lets have them for the time being, and consider them experimental for now. We have more than 120 quite diverse dialectal variants and a 'cultural clash' :-) of spelling systems, so we need to find our ways to get along with them. We'll see what is really used and will be needed on the long run.
- --Purodha Blissenbach 12:25, 28 Ojjoßß 2006 (UTC)
- When copying data from here, please take it from the wikisource (strip initial and final ~3 lines) since